1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless, 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: severely bug bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: You can't predict anything presented by first, like creating proven 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: for every hunt. First like go farther, stay longer. Okay, 6 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: we're recording and catch Candle asking me and sat there 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: doing this one like, uh, you know who John Lennon is, right, yeah, 8 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: got shot beatles and everything. Um, you know his wife 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Yoko Ono. I don't know, you're not aware that there 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: was a dude named John Lennon with a wife named 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Yoko Ono. Uh no, I am that you asked if 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: id new her? That's fair? No, over and me and 13 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Seth are doing, um what was that? Evan? Do you 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: remember what that was called? Where they wouldn't get out 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: of bed, where they wouldn't get out of bed. Yeah, 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: they did like a bed in remember yeah, you're right, yeah, 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: yeah right now in this hotel exactly, it's exactly the 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: same John Lennon and Yoko. Yeah, and they wouldn't get 19 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: out of bed and they did everything in bed, mean, Seth. Yeah. 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Joined the Day by Evan Hayford. Now you don't know this. 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Probably when the pandemic hit. You were our first remote, 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: the first ever remote person. That's right, I did because 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you told me that when we were on the show. 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: He said, I hate this. I don't like doing them 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: like this and I can't wait to get back to 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: doing them in person. Here you are and here I am. 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: How did you like the title that show, Roasting Coffee 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: in the CIA? That was a good title, wasn't it. Yeah, 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure it didn't. Well it was because I was 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: technically in the CIA and roasting coffee. So I don't 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: know if that's the the entirety of the show, but 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: it was. No, but I liked it. I thought the 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: title was good, good, But I had questions about whether 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: that you might come to me and be like, well, 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: actually I didn't do that then, No, No, I did excellent. 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Um and catch Candle Assid coming after office some wet 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: ass days and we'll talk more about that. Hunting hunting 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: blacktail deer um on Prince Wales Island and we'll return 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: to that. We've got a couple of as as per 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: usual as usually, got some stuff we gotta cover off 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: on I'm gonna I'm gonna mess with my order because dirt. 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Can you, uh explain what happened to your friend man 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: the bear the bear guy. Oh, this is a great story. 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: This is a real This is a real uh you know, 45 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: happening makes its own gravy. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Well, 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page. The the the 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: tranquil answer. So my buddy Kevin Weiderman, Widerman, you know, 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it's not that good of friends us. It's a hard 49 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: last name. Anyways, Well, which which one is it? Or 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: don't you know? Widerman? Yeah, he was hunting up at 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: the family cabinet, was telling you about no, dude, just 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: we'll stay at that and uh shot a bear and 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: at the check station f w P said it had 54 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: been they had it was collard, and they realized it 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: had been tranquilized twenty days prior and told him not 56 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to eat the meat. Okay, but hold, I wish you would. 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, you got to the point real quick. But 58 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I want to back up a little bit. Did he 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: know his collard? No, he couldn't tell. And he told 60 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: me that when I talked to him, He's like, couldn't tell. 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Why not? What color? Was the collar. I don't know. 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell his collard or tag. Maybe he's an 63 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: air tag, I don't know. And then was it tranquilized 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and moved or tranquilized it was? It was a trouble 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: shot of lost bear. It was relocated. Yeah, And this 66 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: this was all initially when I texted you, it was 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: text with what I asked you. And then I called 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: him before I fled out here to get the just 69 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: real quick. And that's all I got was yeah, man, 70 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell it was. And they said, we tranquilized 71 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: this bear twenty days ago. You shouldn't eat it because 72 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: that tranquil as your drugs in there. Yeah, they recommended 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: thirty days, to wait thirty days, and before that not 74 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: to consume the meat. And he did in ten days. 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: It would have been okay to eat the tranquil as there. 76 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: And he called he his his intuition was to eat 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: the meat, but he knew what ran was some folks 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: that knew a lot about that type of stuff. And 79 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: he said to ask your buddies, you know what they think. 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: And I asked you and cow and both of you 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: kids were like, eat it. Dr Steve, you know, I 82 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: don't want someone coming after you. I don't want to now, 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to meat the ship and then coming 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: after me. They held accountable. Did he feel sleepy or 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: so him? What if he eats it and feel sleepy? 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you ever listen to this show, 87 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: the show you're on right now? Yea? So maybe you 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: caught the episode where we talked about a guy that 89 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: was shot by a tranquilizer. I didn't. They were doing 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: they were doing mountain lion research stuff and they wanted 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: to trank a mountain lion, but they didn't want to 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: fall out of the tree and get hurt. So the 93 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: guy was up in the tree with it. Like they'll 94 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: put out nets and stuff. They don't joke, put out 95 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: nets to test the mountain lion. Somehow the line like 96 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: they hit it and the line gets tangled up like 97 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: falls asleep on the branch. So he's got to go 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: up there and try to snaggle it down and you know, 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: get it to the ground, gets up there and it's 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: it's not asleep. So he is hooting and hollering about 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: getting the gun back up there because he wants to 102 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: place the shocks. It's in a place where they can't 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: get at it either way. They up with an idea 104 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: to he's gonna lower a rope down and the guy 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: is gonna tie the tranquilizer gone to the rope. I 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: don't understand this, but in the process he gets of 107 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: him tying it through the trigger guard trunks. The guy 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: in the tree, I need to listen to this one. 109 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: They had to haul him out of the mountains on 110 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: a mule, but he didn't die. Didn't die. Yeah, point 111 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: being this is for your friend with the bear. Here's 112 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: a man that took the full load of the trunk 113 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: and was in himself and he's lived to tell about it. 114 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: So now you got a bear that has some amount 115 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: of it for how many days? Twenty days metabolizing it. 116 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: It's distributed throughout its carcass. He's gonna presumably eat it 117 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: in a piecemeal fashion. Yeah, not like he's gonna sit 118 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: down and eat a hundred pounds of like in a 119 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: sitting Yeah, he's gonna eat a half pound here, a 120 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: quarter pound there. He's a big eater. He's not gonna 121 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: eat at all. But but you see my point. Yeah, 122 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Like in times like this, I always ask myself this 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, will this be the thing that ends up 124 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: killing me native on that, and I'm always like, probably not. Man, 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: It'll probably be like the normal ship that kills everybody. 126 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: And there may not be an answer. But why the 127 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: thirty days do you think? I don't know. Why did 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: they come up with that number? I don't know. Yeah, 129 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: that's probably how long it takes you out of the system, 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the brain out in seth. Well, I'll follow up and 131 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: see after little Feller to see if Kevin laying up 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: in that bed. I'll comfy he hangs out. You're going yeah, um, yeah, 133 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: so that's that's good. Maybe maybe a train glazer expertal 134 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: right in oh so um. Also, Auction House of Bodities, 135 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: we're on auction group number four, so we're gonna keep 136 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: running the auction outs for a while. Here. I got 137 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of items still, so right now auction group 138 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: number four, we have a signed copy of Ridgeline by 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: two time podcast guest Michael punk Um. That's so that's 140 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: his new book, signed Jason Phelps. I'll get this one. 141 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: So Phelps just haunted the Elks season successfully. I watched 142 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: him in my own two eyes, uh his bow, so 143 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: he's got a p s E Evo n x T 144 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: three five stripped of accessories so you can you can 145 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: go buy Phelps's actual elk hunting bow and the actual 146 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: bugle tube he used all throughout the season, well bloodied 147 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: bugle tube. UH. The prototype so we worked with We 148 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: we have skull mountains out like desk mounts, wall mounts. 149 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: We worked with my favorite fabricator, Travis Barton Barton Fabrication 150 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: Um near our hometown. There. We were with him to 151 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: make these things and he came up with a prototype. 152 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: We're auctioning off the prototype wall school mount one of 153 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: the kind ship here, folks. We also got a hand 154 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: forged carving knife by Kirkpatrick Forge and Sheridan, Oregon. This 155 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: is one of a pair of knives we had. The 156 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: other one's gone now designed for carving large hunks of meat. 157 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: Riley Kirkpatrick made this for Callahan to be used on 158 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: special occasions, but Cal says they're two nice for how 159 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: infrequently he has special occasions happened to him, so he 160 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: wants someone that will be able to put this into 161 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: good use. Also, our very own Maggie Smith UH a 162 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: beautiful photography photograph of a bull moose. The photograph is 163 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: called some Serious side Eye. It's a bull, moose and 164 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: velvet from our own geographer and editor, Maggie Smith. She 165 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: was doing a river trip, ran into a bunch of 166 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: four five moose. This one strucker she folded. She snapped 167 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: hundreds of photos of it. This is her favorite one. 168 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: And then uh moss Montana moss Agate hoop earrings. So 169 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: Spencer the rock Hound New Hearth are very own who 170 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: runs our Trivita program here he found him. His wife 171 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: turned them into beautiful pieces of jewelry. Those around the 172 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: auction house. And then continuing on the auction house and 173 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: something you don't gotta buy, go sign up for a 174 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: chance to win Doss Boat. It's like Dose Boat. So 175 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: it's the boat from Doss Boat season two. We already 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: gave away the boat from Doss Boat one. This is 177 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: the boat from Doss Boat to It belonged to my 178 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: childhood fishing mentor, John Gary. When he passed away, it 179 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: came to live at my house, lived in my mom's 180 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Pole Bron. I moved away. They lived in the Pole 181 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Barron for twenty years. We got it out, refurbished it 182 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: with a new Honda for stroke on it. Got it 183 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful, crazy ass paint job. It's all tricked out. 184 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: What everything you could possibly want. Doss boat dose boat 185 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: up for grabs right now, go sign up and get 186 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: its being the auction house. Uh, we had skunk essence. 187 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: We gave away a bottle of skunk Austens that uh 188 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: that me and Seth and Chester pulled out of some 189 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: skunks with a syringe. And then it's prompted a lot 190 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: of people writing skunk stories. Here's a skunk story. It's 191 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: not a prank, but it's just a good skunk. Aussen 192 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: story has to do with skunk essence and freedom mounts 193 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: and furnaces. So this guy goes on to say he's 194 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: in Iowa hunting shotgun season and he finds a large 195 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: white tail deadhead. Now you got deadheads that like the dead, 196 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: right Devan, and then you've got deadheads that are dead things, 197 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: dead things. This is a dead thing deadhead. It's a 198 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: dead white tail. Got it. You didn't find just a 199 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: dead a dead deadhead, dead deadhead. It's just a deadhead, 200 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: easy to find. Very colorful. Yeah, because if he was 201 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: getting a school amount of a dead deadhead that he 202 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: found were probably notified. I had to notify the authorities 203 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: because I don't want to be implicated. This is a 204 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: dead white tail's head. So here's where he does. It 205 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make total sense. He takes the head in the 206 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: anidlers and puts into garbage bag. Sure that makes sense. 207 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: Then he places it in the window well of his 208 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: uncle's house, odd keeping it safe. Why, yeah, you find 209 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: a dead school put in the bag. I'm with you. 210 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: Any nine out of ten people are gonna bag it. 211 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Puts in his uncle's window well, where it resides for 212 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: some time. Eventually, the uncle who owns the window well 213 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: takes the bag with the dead head into the furnace room. 214 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to him, a skunk is in the bag, snacking 215 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: on the rotten head that got in there from the window, 216 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: and he grabs the bag. Okay, when the skunk gets 217 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: in the house, it starts caught and loose. It gives 218 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: his furnace a direct hit. Two years later, when you 219 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: come in the house, there's still the faintest skunk smell, 220 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: a little whiff that makes you want to just replace 221 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: your whole miss sure this or the whole house? It 222 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: makes me It's get a little extreme but yeah, it 223 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: makes me think that it might have been a deadhead 224 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: that found the deadhead story. That's a crazy story. Yeah, 225 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: it could be. That might be a good show, Deadheads 226 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: hunting for Deadhead. It's like you have deadheads that walk 227 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: around the woods and then you follow what they do 228 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: with the dead heads when they find them window sills. 229 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I have a skunk question. It might be a better 230 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: time than No, that's a great time. No time like 231 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: the present for that kind of stuff. Dirt my neighbor's dog. Uh, 232 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: but this is right before New Mexico. Actually I was 233 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna bring it up, but I didn't get a chance. 234 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Um bit off the attack to skunk got sprayed and 235 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: um when they went out to figure out what's going on, 236 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: this skunk's tail was with Pindler as the dog's name. 237 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Now does that does the tail? Can you back up? 238 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm confused? Go ahead, dog attacked the skunk and at 239 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: the crime scene they found the skunks tail and a 240 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: sprayed dog. The dog ripped the skunks tail off. My 241 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: question is does the tail regulate that action? Like was 242 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: it a loose cannon at that point? Just like, yeah, 243 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: there's a skunk. Just I don't know that's probably one 244 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: for half a finger. Yeah, but I'm gonna say doesn't 245 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: regulate that. That's not how he regulates. Okay, that tail 246 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: is almost like I want to think, it's almost like 247 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: a warning flag because it's so colorful. It's yeah, you know, 248 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: it's time to get the heck out of in in 249 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: fur trap and lowerm seth. You'll have your own thing 250 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: about this, yep, and for when I was a kid, 251 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: and for trapping. Lord. When you have a skunk and 252 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: they're generally like in the old days, people would trap 253 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: skunks for the commercial markets, and they still have value, 254 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: but now they have value on the how do you 255 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: what do you call it novelty trade? Yeah, skunk prices 256 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: aren't tied to fur markets, so they're not tied to 257 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: sort of like all the international ship like oil prices 258 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: and what the economy in South Korea is like and 259 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: what the Russians are up to. Um, like normal fur 260 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: that goes into fur garments. It's sort of tied to 261 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: all this you know, political global economic ship. Uh so 262 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: it's tied to like a company that could be making 263 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: something specific like a jacket that ends up being really 264 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: popular and all of a sudden the skunk prices might go. No, 265 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: it's all novelty. I see the novelty. The skunk fur 266 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: market is novelty trade. So it's like you drunk uncle, 267 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: I would think it's funny to have a skunk hat, 268 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: or people want to skunk wall hanging. It's like it 269 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: doesn't go. It's like the novelty trade drive skunk prices, 270 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: and so skunk prices stay pretty stable, like I think 271 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: like a like a put up skunk stays around like 272 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: not much. What was the six bucks? Okay, that's curious? 273 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Uh what was I getting at? Oh? But skunks are 274 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: very common bycatch fox and kyote trapping. Um. We caught 275 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of them kyote in a bunch of coyotes 276 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: sets that SETH and I set this year. Hence the 277 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: bottle of skunk gussons yep um. I was always taught 278 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: that if you shot it in the heart with the 279 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty two um, that's the best way to make it 280 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: not spray. Nowadays people um have a syringe on a 281 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: long stick trankt No, I don't even want to tell 282 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: you what they're put in there. Who this is a 283 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: family program. My imagination is black rifle cough. This sunk 284 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: gets real energy. We're done on that, right. Yeah. I 285 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: still didn't get an answer on the tail, but maybe 286 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: someone I'm telling you, man, I don't think there has 287 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: anything to do with it. There's not a muscle. I'm 288 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: sure that he's got like a I'm sure that he's 289 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: got like a a sphincter type prostrate type finger another 290 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: that it's got a muscle. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm 291 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: getting at. Okay, um is that is that skunk essence? 292 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: Like drawing over someone win it? Yeah, Gareth getting ready 293 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: to ship it out. I wonder what you want to 294 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: know what I'd be curious what they're gonna do with it. 295 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: You don't you want to know what Joe Bieber there 296 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: um in Minnesota, what he does with it, How they 297 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: store it. It's a hot tip. They probably don't store 298 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: it like you stuck to the outside of your house. 299 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: They don't know. They don't staple to their outside their house. 300 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: They he said, what you do is you get like 301 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: coffee can feel full sand Oh, now there's a thing 302 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: that's going on obsoletes coffee cans. Evan can probably tell 303 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: you about that. That might be a cool retro product. 304 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: Funny you say that I do can the old You 305 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: do the old type of can that you put worms 306 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: in when you get you do or bolts. We do 307 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: a aluminum can on some of our limited offerings, so 308 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: then you put your worms in their bolts or yeah, 309 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: they spent casings whatever. People putting coffee cans. Well, that 310 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: was part of the genesis because I was out cleaning 311 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: out my grandfather's shop and he had all these cans, 312 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: coffee cans like everywhere, right, nuts and bolts, and I 313 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: was like, once you and they were all the folders cans, 314 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: they're all red. It was like this guy drank the 315 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: same coffee for probably thirty years. Because you like to 316 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: calvi his garage organized. That's one of the reasons I 317 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, I think this business might be kind 318 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: of sticky. He reinvented the wheel man um oh anyways 319 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to store um scun gastons and other very potent odors 320 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: like fox urine or whatever. Take um can like that 321 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: and fill the full sand and then you put it 322 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: in the You put the bottle in the middle of 323 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the sand and then pack the sand on protects it 324 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: from breaking. In the older, he said, the older doesn't 325 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: get out of that. It's just packed in sand. It 326 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: is a good timp. Here's an interesting deal, Krand I 327 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: could tell things this is super Krims not with us 328 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: right now, but I can tell she thinks it's super 329 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: interesting because of how much she really liked a lot 330 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: like I Krinn really likes. Krine finds an interesting thing, 331 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: and she she'll highlight the part she likes. Holy smokes, 332 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: she likes a lot of this article. It's about that 333 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: California condors not even know if other birds can do 334 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: this too. You guys ever heard of parthenogenesis? No? Okay, 335 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: bear with me. At a time that we were down, 336 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: like very like California condors due to you know, poisoning 337 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: and shooting and habitat destruction became you know, like they're 338 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: they're very famous, um for how low their population got 339 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: to be where they were saved from that they were 340 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: safe through a captive breeding programs. So in eighty two 341 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: there were only twenty two California condors in existence. Okay, 342 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Apparently it's hard to look at a condor and tell 343 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: if you're looking at a boy or a girl, um, 344 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: which is true. A lot of birds you gotta kind 345 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: of open their clothe aco up and you'll find this 346 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: little wormy thing in there. Anyhow, they developed the test 347 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: um two determine the sex of the condors, and they 348 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: split these birds up into these into two captive breeding facilities. 349 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: As this captive breeding thing went on over the years, 350 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: they also began doing DNA testing on these birds because 351 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: they wanted to avoid breeding closely related individuals. Recently, now 352 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: scientists decided to undertake a complete genetic analysis of the population, 353 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: which is now, you know, some nine hundred birds, so 354 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: from two nine and they have all these like samples 355 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: from condors, right, they have blood, they have eggshell membranes, 356 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: they have tissue from deceased birds, they have feathers from birds. 357 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: So they're doing this analysis all these birds and they 358 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: find two birds out of the nine there's two birds 359 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: that are missing genetic material from the male who shared 360 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: the enclosure with the female that laid the eggs. Drag itsmatham, 361 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: this is cool. You seriously think that this is awesome. 362 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: They did multiple samples off these birds because they felt 363 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: they were making a mistake. They were confident it wasn't 364 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: a mistake. What they realize is that condors at least 365 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: a couple of times can reproduce through parthenogenesis, a form 366 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: of reproduction in which an egg can develop into an 367 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: embryo without being fertilized by a sperm. It seems like 368 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: there was an air somewhere. No, I believe, so check 369 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: this out. Condors can live into their fifties. But both 370 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: of the male chicks born of a sexual reproduction were 371 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: relatively small and died before becoming sexually mature at one 372 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: point nine and seven point nine years old. Then the 373 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: article goes on to be annoying. Wait, how does a 374 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: female have a male baby without any fertilization. You'll have 375 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: to write these people and ask them, does any other 376 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: bird do that? I'm sure it does. Want wants to 377 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: look up part pull it up that word. Here's where 378 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: the article gets annoying. And this is the thing that 379 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: everybody does. It's super annoying. Goes on to say. He 380 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: adds speaking in one of the scientists, that the condor 381 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: is a remarkable species that has survived from the place 382 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: to scene era. Everything has survived from the place to scene. 383 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: Are people are like the muskox a plice scene relative? 384 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Why don't they say like humans a places scene or 385 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: rats scene relic or chicken Eass scene relicate. No, there's 386 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: not like you can't name a creature that's not a 387 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: place to scene relic. Yeah, you can't name me one 388 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: name a like from from from the from the palis 389 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: to scene hollow, scene transition. What brand new things are there? 390 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: Got me? But why why is it always the Muskox, 391 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: the pleist scene relicate. No one's ever like the white 392 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: tailed Deer Relicate. It's like everything is that should be 393 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: the next T shirt you'd have, just like a bunch 394 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: of pictures of dude would be like a dude. It's 395 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: a shirt with a dude like it looks like like 396 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: a just a dude like me. That says Plisscene relic 397 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: that's what we should have a T shirt like hot Cakes. 398 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Steve's face on a T shirt says, I don't know 399 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: if I want to be the preying on it, but 400 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: I think it would be a great shirt with the 401 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: glasses down. It's a glasses down to see relic like 402 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: when I'm like when I when my spectacles in the 403 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: tip of mind and do a special fishack edition where 404 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: they're all fogged up. Well, our our condor special other 405 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: than being place to scene relics. Well, there's special but 406 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: there's only twenty two of them left now. They're also 407 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: the condors also sit at the and this this sort 408 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: of ties into your thing. I'm not gonna spend too 409 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: much time on um. It's a little bit ugly right now. 410 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: It gets a little bit ugly. So if you were 411 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: to go and ask, like see, i'm i'm I'm getting 412 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: into the deep end of the pool here dirt. This 413 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: is where like biology meets politics. I don't like that 414 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: lead lead yep in um. Hunters are often blamed for 415 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: continuing condor depths. Other people point up other causes lead, 416 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: but condors have a lot of problems with lead poisoning. 417 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Some people point to that they're getting lead from scavenging 418 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: carcasses left over by hunters, and they're ingesting lead and 419 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: then will be fifty years, and over the course of 420 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: fifty years they find enough deer carcass doesn't get lead 421 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: um now Like for it was in the eighties when 422 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: the lead band came for waterfowl, everybody got pissed. People 423 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: eventually got used to it. But like you used to 424 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: be able to shoot lead at ducks and geese. Are 425 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: people that quit hunting ducks and geese because they had 426 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: to switch to steel non toxic shot. California had like 427 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the condor recovery zone and you could you couldn't use 428 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: lead ammunition, and the kind of the condo recovery zone 429 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: even like twenty two and stuff, you got copper. This article, 430 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: like like a lot of articles like this, they always have. 431 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: They always take like a little potshot at hunters. And 432 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: so the article goes on and take a little totshout 433 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: at hunters about um this thing. And it's like, I'm 434 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: not gonna get into right now. There's people we should 435 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: we should have. We'll have someone on to talk about it. 436 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: There is some healthy debate about this. Okay, where the 437 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: lead comes from and all this and then and then 438 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: uh and some people would some some people view that, 439 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: uh the con that that that that that's not entirely 440 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: to blame for the demise of the condor and all 441 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But it's it splits politically in 442 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: some ways. Yeah, buddy, So uh. Pat Durkin on our 443 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: website recently wrote a thing about increased use of coperamto 444 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: right and and what's going on in California where it's 445 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: like they can't use lead anymore, and like and and 446 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: certain ammo is hard to find right now, as you know, 447 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: and like exacerbates the problem. People are very frustrated all 448 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Uh gets into you know, and 449 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Durkins think gets into that little bit. Um. But it 450 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: got me thinking when you say, like, uh, when you're 451 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: watching the Western, they're feeling full of lead. Yeah, Garrett Long, 452 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: our colleague has a quote, Um, when there's lead in 453 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: the air, there's hoping the heart. Oh that's a good one. 454 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Well you were in the future where you'd be like, 455 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm filled them full of copper when there's copper near 456 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: the heart, you know what I mean. It's hard transition, 457 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: man and west copper gonna do too. You know. Well, 458 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: this is this one Feller Crian thought it was interesting, 459 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's that interesting. It's one Feller 460 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: rolled in about all the trouble with copper and uh, 461 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: yeah endless you know why, because I'm not totally prepared 462 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: to talk about it, because there's like studies, for instance, 463 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: everybody points there's a lot of stuff like people are 464 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: like I don't want to use like move away from 465 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: birds for a minute, now, it's not even the debatable point. Waterfowl. 466 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: A lot of waterfowl got killed by lead shot that 467 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: got killed by lead shot for this reason. Um, you 468 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: have areas where you have a lot of hunters in 469 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: a concentrated fashion putting a lot of pellets in them. 470 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Are So you have marsh lands, wetlands, crop fields where 471 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: guys are shooting boxes of shells right all the time, 472 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: and those birds pick up grit for their gizzard. And 473 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: so you're in areas where there's like a lead pellet 474 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: of a size very attractive to the bird as digestive grit, 475 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: and you have concentrations of it in areas where birds concentrate, 476 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: and so they would accumulate lead in their gizzard and 477 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: their gizzard grinds that let up, and it was causing 478 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: bird death. But then a lot of things caused bird death. 479 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Cars kill birds. House Cats kill a billion birds a 480 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: year in the country, and people aren't like, we should 481 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: ban house cats, right, wind turbans kill birds. Skyscrapers kill birds. 482 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Glass windows kill birds, and people aren't like we should 483 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: ban glass windows. No more windows. So you know, some 484 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: people look and be like, why of all the things 485 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: that kill birds. Why is that the the we gotta 486 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: give our thing up? You don't give You're not giving 487 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: your house cat up. You know all this kind of stuff. 488 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Complicated it is. And then the other part, the other 489 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: reason we should like we should almost have it be 490 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: where we have like a we should have a debate. 491 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: That would be a good idea. Get like one person 492 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: from one side, the most informed person on one side 493 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: of this, and the most informed person on one side, 494 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: and they go toe to toe friendly though with time allotment. 495 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we'll run like a debate. Man, it's 496 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: great idea. You can come dirt all right, I'll do 497 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: the button pushing um. Because there's things like, for instance, 498 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: some people will sight wanting to some people will cite 499 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: like I I quit hunting with lead because I don't 500 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: want my family exposed to lead. But then no one 501 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: can find evidence of hunters having elevated lead. In fact, 502 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: they found they did this one study. I think it 503 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: was in the Dakota's hunters have less lead than average 504 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: cause they live in rural environments. Right, I got some 505 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: When you're in an urban environment, like you can go 506 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: in a second. You're in an urban environment where you 507 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: have huge concentrations of automobiles that were burning leaded fuel. 508 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: And it's like in the soil and in old housing 509 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: areas that had lead paint that you can't point be 510 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: like hunters are at risk of lead. You'd be like 511 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Knights are at list are at risk of elevated 512 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: levels of blood. So you know there's all these arguments 513 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: like human health, wildlife health. Yeah, it's a it's a 514 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: rich field of inquiry, and no matter what answer you 515 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: come up with, someone's gonna be piste, go ahead, dirt. 516 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: As left handers, I mean you don't know if Evan, 517 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: are you left handed? No? I'm normal. Where's this going? 518 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: So three of us in the room being left handed? Normal? Babe, Ruth. 519 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: You remember when you used to write stuff on paper 520 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore in school. But the left handers, 521 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I actually 522 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: you don't have kids, no, But they're on iPads and laptops. Man, 523 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have three of them. They write 524 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: on paper with pencils lead or any of them left 525 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: hand it's graph fight. Uh never mine was old pencils lead. 526 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: But the smudging, like the smudges. But it's not lead, 527 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: it's graph fights. Okay, never mind, disregard. I was excited 528 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: for you to get there. I was rooting for him 529 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: when he starts talking to MYR, was rooting for him. 530 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm always hoping he's going to pull something off, because 531 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: time he does pull off something, good man, that is graphite. 532 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: Damn well they didn't. There was as you have been 533 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: right and think about as a young child writing them essays, 534 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: getting a smudge on your hand, absorbing that maybe left 535 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: handers are have a higher percentage of let him of graphite, 536 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: poison graph You end up like licking it off, clean it. No, 537 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: I just smudge? Is that what you do? Chick? Lick 538 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: it off? Explains a lot. Jaster, here's a good one 539 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: for you, buddy, Ready some Wisconsins. Are you ready for 540 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: something from Scannie? Hit it a diver? This is great. 541 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: The diver was going to test out some scuba equipment. Okay, 542 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: picks a nondescript spot to test his scuba equipment. What 543 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: does he find in thirty ft of water one thousand, 544 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: two hundred year old fishing canoe lake Mindota, Wisconsin Lakes 545 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: right near Madison, which is kind of if you think 546 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: about how popular that lake is. It's right in Madison, 547 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: and they still are finding stuff like the picture here 548 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: they had fishing weights on it and some other equipment. 549 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Really well, that is crazy. One thousand two So from 550 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: eight hundred a d. What was it made out of? 551 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I may miss that lead this grab it's a wooden canoe. 552 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: I wonder if they talked about their fishing canoes like 553 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: we talked about our fishing boats these days. It looks 554 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: like it's kind of lashed together with you see that. Yeah, 555 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: they might have done that the whole I think what 556 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at their pulled it together as they didn't 557 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: want to fall apart. Yeah, that makes sense. That is crazy. 558 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: It is cool though, one thousand two d year old canoe, 559 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: Lake Mendota. Some kids in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. There's pictures of 560 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: that's sitting in school speaking little kids in school. Bamn, 561 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: a moose bust is the window. There's a bunch of 562 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: pictures of the moose standing in the classroom. What yeah, 563 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: right on into school. Anybody hurt? Maybe it's a messy 564 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: ass classroom, saskatooneezy. It looks like a lot of blood 565 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: on the ground. Unless that's I don't know, water bottles sanitizer. 566 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: It looks like there's a hand sanitizer bottle there. There 567 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: there was a bear that got into the Bozeman High 568 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: School a few years ago. Okay, Chester got some stuff 569 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: on Chetakare you ready for this? A lot of people 570 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: writing in with CHETAKA questions for Chester. I love it too. 571 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: I kind of want to read this letter, but it's 572 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: so I'll read it, but I'm gonna do u Oh yeah, 573 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: all right, I'll read it. No, how you how do 574 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: you want to read it? So let me let me 575 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: lay the groundwork. Burbank, Washington. This just happened to three 576 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: youth hunters got up in the morning and beat what 577 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: looked like an older gentleman to his duck blind. So 578 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: they were okay, racing to get there. The guy that 579 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: wanted to get there to the blind first but didn't 580 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: get there, goes and touches off four rounds near the 581 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: kids storms off. They got scared, but what was gonna happen? 582 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: So then they packed up their decoys and went back 583 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: to the truck. And what awaits them on their truck window. Chester, 584 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: there's a letter um who wants to do the beep 585 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: when I point at him. So you know what, let's 586 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: just do this man, just read it and then um, 587 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: because there's it's it's really something. I mean I imagine 588 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: there must be a dozen them in there, some of them. 589 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: He doubles up it. Okay, Philip, make it more. This 590 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: is the letter and left on the truck from the 591 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: old man. This is the old man's This teenis to 592 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: have his mouth washed out with it. Just this drives 593 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: me nuts, but I'm reading it. This is my spot, asshole. 594 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: My grandpa built all the blinds on this shoreline. Next 595 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: time I see this truck here, the truck is mine. 596 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: You best watch yourself, boy, and stay the out of burbank. 597 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: You are very lucky. I don't slash these tires right now. 598 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Off j I don't think i've ever heard you say 599 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: that word before Chester that I was going to keep. Um. 600 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously in etiquette standards, that's not that's just 601 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: that's just plain old nasty. And you're talking about the 602 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: kids taking the blind right, these kids taking old guy's blinds. No, 603 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean like there's a couple of questions, like, I'm 604 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: sure this is public land. Um, you know, if it's 605 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: public land. People have to just and you see this 606 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: all over you know. I've gotten letters from people being like, 607 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, get the hell away from this spot and whatnot. 608 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: But if it's public land, it's everyone's right to hunt it. 609 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: And um. The other day, speaking of just duck hunting, 610 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: because these guys were hunting, Seth and I drove to 611 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: a spot near Bozeman and we got to the spot 612 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: and there was a dude who was part there and 613 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: he left a duck decoy under his tire. And I 614 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: think that guy left that duck decoy there so people 615 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: would know he was duck hunting. It's a small, small 616 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: little spot, and you just I'm sorry, I was reading something. 617 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: What now. So Seth and I drove to a duck 618 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: hunting spot the other day. There was a guy parked 619 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: in that spot and he had the decoy, left a 620 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: duck decoy under his tire so people would know he 621 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: was duck hunting. I think that's why he left it there. 622 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: He could have just forgot it, but it is a 623 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: good idea. So like, if I showed up at that 624 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: spot in the morning, it's public land, you see a 625 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: guy parked there. You know, it's a small spot. Give him, 626 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: just give him some space, like go somewhere else in 627 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: that particular area. It was like a one little pond. 628 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can't hunt, you know, did you guys 629 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: slash his tires um? We left a very similar note. 630 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: Photocopy that note and then leave it blank where it 631 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: says burbank And then I don't know what means does 632 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: he feel? What did you think that that man? The 633 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: kids were hispanic? Is that what that is? What that is? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 634 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh he needed to twist the knife a little bit 635 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: in there, and like it sounds that that that's what that. 636 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell what the hell that man, but that's 637 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: what he means. Yeah, I mean definitely, man, it's people 638 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: just gotta stop being such assholes. Really, Like I didn't 639 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: even when you were reading that, I didn't even get 640 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: that he had like a little racial slur. And to 641 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: finish her off. If you don't want something someone hunting 642 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: your duck blind, don't put it on public land. Yeah. 643 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: And if you're going to get that bent out of 644 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: shape from something like that, why are you even hunting? 645 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: That enjoyable for you? Well, I wouldn't gun. Yeah, Yeah, 646 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: he's a little unstable. I think they have a bunch 647 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: of people waiting for that. Dude Fine comes back the 648 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: most riled up I've seen him the entire trip. He 649 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: takes Jeddako very seriously. Someone seen the veins popping his forehead. 650 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: He's getting angry. It was clear though in that that 651 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: it was public land. I wasn't. It's not clear, but 652 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm if it was it of course it is, yeah, 653 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean, and if it is, there could be this 654 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: I who wrote this note. He could be doing something 655 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: illegal by building blinds and leaving them there. So we 656 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: don't even know that. But well, he is going to 657 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: be in violation because all states have one. He's in 658 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: violation of his hunter harassment law. Yeah. And to me, 659 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: that's not even like an etiquette thing. It's just kind 660 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: of like that's a good slogan for the book and 661 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: ain't etiquette. Yeah anyway, So are you're gonna put like 662 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: a blind etiquette session in their section? Yeah? Um, yep. 663 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: Sean Weaver is helping me out, said he would like 664 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: to help me out with the duck hunting stuff, and uh, 665 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: he could bring some light on that. It's great in there. 666 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: I think you boys ought to put in there a 667 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: little bit about skyblasts and ducks that are working someone 668 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: else's spread. Oh yeah, that's gotta go in there. That's 669 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: that's not very good etiquette, jettiqutte. But there's a there's 670 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: a part of it, not that you're not crafty, little finger. 671 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: There's a part of it that's gonna be It's almost 672 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: like there's a sort of magic to it of that 673 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to spell it out clearly. 674 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Like, for instance, we used to always spend 675 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: the open day of duck season in the Moskegan Marsh okay, 676 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: as did a lot of people Big Marsh, similar to 677 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: like the horricon Marsh where but all those people that 678 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: it made the duck hunting good, Like you got limits 679 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: right because the birds were just flying all day because 680 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: people are coming to going whatever. But you'd go out 681 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: and you still have to find an appropriate spacing based 682 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: on the idea of of the density of people that 683 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: were in the marsh. If you went later in the 684 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: year and it was an opening day, you would never 685 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 1: and there weren't that many people out, you would never 686 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: hunt as close to another party as was acceptable on 687 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: opening day because of how many people are out it's 688 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: hard to explain the stuff. It's hard to articulate that. 689 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: It's like a big part of this is like try 690 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: and use some common sense and be respectable, and that's 691 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: like one of the only very hard to explain. I'm 692 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: sure it's probably regional too. Yeah, but I think you 693 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 1: know what would be a good way to do that 694 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: is talk to duck hunters that we know in different 695 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: states and kind of get an average of kind of 696 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: what they're all saying and how to say it. And 697 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you could get something in there. You 698 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: know what, I think you shouldn't put in the book 699 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: because it wouldn't be applicable to enough people. But there 700 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: used to be a thing in muskrat trapping where let's 701 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: let's say you have a November one muskrat opener public 702 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: land guys would go out ahead of season and start 703 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: staking their sets as the way to claim. So you'd 704 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: go to a feed bed, put your steak, go to 705 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: a house, put your steak in a pre stake it 706 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: and in their mind they're claiming it, but there would 707 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: be nothing preventing you from coming in and wiring off 708 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: to that steak. Sure, tell your your specific story to 709 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 1: that I remember you're saying where it caved in on 710 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: on his trap that was there that I had to 711 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: talk a guy out of beat my ass when I 712 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: was in high school. So I'll say, right what has happened. 713 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say who it was. I'll tell you 714 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: where it happened. There's a highway called M one. If 715 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: you look on the map, find Twin Lake, Michigan and 716 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: find Holton, Michigan. And one between Twin Lake and Holton 717 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: Cross is a thing called Cedar Creek. There was a 718 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: undercut bank, which is like mink like to run undercut banks. 719 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: They they like to. They don't want they want to 720 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: protect themselves from raptors and stuff lives under their frogs 721 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: and crayfish and stuff was unarchas, so they're always running 722 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: undercut banks. Common mink set. This is just bed your traps. 723 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: That there's a half inch or an inch of water 724 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: over the pan right up tight against the wall the 725 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: undercut bank, because he's gonna be running along, swimming running 726 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: along there. I go up to a nice like an 727 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: undercut bank, and I'm digging out a trap bed and 728 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: find a trap not recently died and waxed, no tag 729 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: on it. I think it's a it's a trap from 730 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: years past. I put it in my pack basket and 731 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: I make my own set. They're thinking, I, oh, the 732 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: fit failed to mention this. It was sprung and it 733 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: was like down deep sprung, so I thought the bank 734 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: had caved in. What ever his long old trap. I 735 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: placed my own tagged trap in the exact spot. So 736 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: these two mink trappers thinking like I placed my own 737 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: tag trap right there. I can't reme if it was 738 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: that dare. The next day, I'm at a spot making 739 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: a fox set and uproars like this, like driving like 740 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: he's in the Baja one thousand up to me. It 741 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: doesn't go to me, though, goes to my truck. I'm 742 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: across the field and he's ripping through my truck, finds 743 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: his trap untagged, and then wants to beat my ass 744 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: for having stole his trap and put mine are. Yeah, 745 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: this guy is huge, I say, and i'd be you know, 746 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like you, don't you think I appreciate life 747 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: enough to where I wouldn't do that to you? Yeah, 748 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: but you didn't know it was with your leaving your 749 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: info there too. Yeah, And then I leave, like my 750 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: business card there. Yeah, man, put that that Chettikot book. Yeah, 751 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: but that's another thing. You'd be like tag your goddamn 752 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: traps because that's the way you should do it. And 753 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: that's coming straight from Chester. All right, Evan, Uh, to 754 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: what degree do you feel like talking? Like you're all 755 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 1: over the news people are sending me like news articles 756 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: about Black Rifle coffee company. I'll talk about whatever you want. 757 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, do you feel like talking 758 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: about it? Sure, you're all on the news. I'm doing 759 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: my hand jes because like your rer recent like news news. Yeah, 760 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: we're prepping on i p O. So we did, uh 761 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: explain to people the hell that means initial public offering 762 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: or i p O is taking a couple of company public. 763 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: We're doing it through um special purpose acquisition, which is 764 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: a spack. So we and it's there's a couple different 765 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: ways you can do it. You can do a direct 766 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: listing or you can do a spack, and we went 767 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: with a spack. There was a timing issue, so we 768 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: we've been preparing for this for about three years, oh no, 769 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: kids really four years, four years. So there's a lot 770 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: of preparation that goes into this. So I started four 771 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: years ago. Well, rewind seven years ago. I started the 772 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: company seven years ago. I was like, can you tell 773 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: people how you met your wife? Yeah? Yeah, I met 774 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: her at a coffee shop, So spider in a coffee shop. 775 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: Spider in a coffee shop, and then found her online 776 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: stock level twenty, recognized that she was buying espresso machine 777 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: and realized that's the coffee lady. Yeah, I realized it, 778 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: and then chatted her up. And she's sporting some guns 779 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: trying to do, uh, pull some shots on that espresso machine. 780 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: Like ladies got some vascularity in her arms. She probably 781 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: likes to run a bit, and uh, I was right, 782 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: And that was before I started the company. But when 783 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: I started it, it was you know, building a big, 784 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: big company was never necessarily something that was It was 785 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: gold driven for It's more of given the circumstance of 786 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: the size, would be great to be able to share 787 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: the success of the company with my customers. That's what 788 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to do from the very beginning. So I've 789 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: always built it around what I call is self licking 790 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: ice cream cone. So are you gonna write a book 791 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: something with the subscription. It was always about delivering you know, 792 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: fresh the freshest roasted coffee two people like straight out 793 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: of the roaster. As I talked about it earlier with you, 794 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: was that a coffee has about seventy two hours for 795 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: it to do what's called off gas, so it's expanding 796 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: through the roasting process. Then it stops, uh, and then 797 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: you bag it and then you ship it out to 798 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: your customer, and it has a couple of weeks in 799 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: there that it really tastes good. Uh. And so I 800 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: wanted people to have that and wanted to the customers 801 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: to see what I saw in coffee, have this like 802 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: great experience, fresh roasted coffee that was through the subscription. 803 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 1: And I teamed up with companies early on to get 804 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: discounts for you know, their gear, and a lot of 805 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: it was all built around the lifestyle. So a lot 806 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: of it was you know, shooting and hunting and things 807 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: like that with these other brands. So if you join 808 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: the subscription, you could get a discount with these other companies. 809 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: It was like, well, shoot, if if I you know, 810 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: Federal was one of our early companies that we did 811 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: business with, so if you took a discount from Federal, 812 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that spent a lot of 813 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: money on Ammo, could theoretically pay for your coffee through 814 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: the entire year. So with that subscription as my original intent, 815 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: and then the the second layer that was to be 816 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: able to share the profits with the customers as well. 817 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: So if we grew, stock goes up, h theoretically speaking, 818 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: between your discounts and stock price, you should be able 819 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: to pay for your coffee. So that's what I've always wanted. 820 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to build it that way. I didn't 821 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: understand how complex it was, you know, being naive, well, 822 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: being dumb when you when you really start, when you 823 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: start to build these things like oh you have to 824 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: go in and build basically these these financial institutions within 825 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: the company that audit your financials. It's it's fairly complex 826 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: and robust, robust process. Is there a thing that is 827 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: there a regulatory measure that the company has a hit 828 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: a certain size and revenue to go publicly? Could someone 829 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: theoretically take a one company public? Is that blocked? You 830 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: know what? That's a good question. I don't know. I 831 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: know that what we when we were very early on, 832 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 1: they wanted us to be bigger, uh, because they didn't 833 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: feel the stock price would perform well if it was 834 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: not a bigger size company, so they wanted us to 835 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: hit a gross revenue number before they would they would 836 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: do a direct listing or even entertain the idea. UM. 837 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's a if there's a 838 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: regulation that says that you have to meet X because 839 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of companies that will go public based 840 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: on a future possibility of profits, so they don't necessarily 841 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: even have any profits. So probably not. But that's a 842 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: good question. I don't know. So what happens to you know, Uh, well, 843 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: in the next couple of months, we'll get a ticker. Um. 844 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: It's all based on on the FED and when they 845 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: when they approve it and then release it back, and 846 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: then from that point, you know, people will be able 847 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: to purchase it. They can't right now it's under a 848 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: different ticker through those back but then uh, then we'll 849 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: get our own ticker, probably February March depending. I don't know. 850 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: It's all based on federal timing and when they're gonna 851 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: sign off on it. So when you're sitting there watching 852 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 1: business news and all the stuff going across the bottom, 853 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: you'll see BRCC run across the bottom, Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah, 854 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: I've watched it every day since we've announced it, but 855 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: it's not every day, I guess every other day or 856 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: whenever I was like look at my phone trying to 857 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, we were deer hunting through a 858 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: lot of this was that uh welcome distraction or you 859 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: where you kind of wished you were like back at 860 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: Command Central. There were only maybe a couple of seconds 861 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: I was wishing I was back at Command Central. This 862 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: is a great distraction. And it's not a distraction. It's 863 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: a focus, right, it's a it's a it was I 864 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 1: was thinking a lot about that today, where being quiet 865 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: and then moving through the woods after you know, Blacktail 866 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: was something I was only focused on that, so not 867 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: thinking about business. You know, every minute we're talking about 868 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: it or having meetings or something like that. Is it 869 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: is a really good opportunity to make the announcement. Uh, 870 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: then come out here because it was out here that 871 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: I think the day after, I think, um, it was 872 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: it was really good to get away from all of 873 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: it because you can be completely absorbed in quite literally 874 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: a little bit useless, uh to the the entire endeavor. 875 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: It takes you know, months if not years for this 876 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: stuff to mature and then move forward. There's so much 877 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: work you're never going to get it done. So five days, 878 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: six days, that's it's not going to mean anything grand skiing. 879 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: It's like grain. It's like a grain of sand and 880 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: a beach. Right, it's just kind of all absorbs. It's not. 881 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: It feels like it's really important at the time. And 882 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: I knew that because, you know, there were guys who 883 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: are like, well, why do you want to go out 884 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: there now? And I'm like, because I want to go 885 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: out there and go hunting. And now that's why you 886 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: don't start. You don't do this stuff. So you chained 887 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 1: to it all the time. It was, yeah, you don't 888 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: pass up an opportunity to come hunting with you know, 889 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: Steve Ronnella and meat eat or you don't do that 890 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: like that's it doesn't really matter. I would have had 891 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: to have had some significant family issues that would have 892 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: had to trump that opportunity. You know, you think about 893 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands 894 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: of people that would probably you know, trim a limb 895 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: to do that like an individual. Yeah, so you can't 896 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: squander an opportunity unless it's just absolutely something you know, 897 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: traumatic that's happening in your life, because that's disrespectful to 898 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Ultimately, man, thank you, that's kind. Let me 899 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: lay a little groundwork people, little talk like your impressions 900 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: of the specifics. Uh. We years ago filmed we feel 901 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: we feel a few blacktail hunts in southeast Alaska, so 902 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: it's Sitka blacktail. You have columb your black tails which 903 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: live in um California, Oregon, Washington. You could have been 904 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,479 Speaker 1: the BC and they switched them to sydical black tails. 905 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: They're like they're a different creature. Uh. I mean they 906 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: resemble one another, but you know, they have some morphological differences, 907 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: some behavioral differences. Um. And we filmed hunting them in 908 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: basically the summer, so August early September, AH when they 909 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: tend to be found a pie. They kind of have 910 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: a reddish coat. They're pretty easy to find, and then 911 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: these things have a way of vanishing down into the 912 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: into the coastal rainforest. And we filmed a hunt years 913 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: ago where we tried to hit the rut um but 914 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: went earlier just because it's scheduling problems and had a 915 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: really tough hunt, and and I came away blaming it 916 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: on timing. Oh man, we were two weeks early, right, 917 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: But turns out that wasn't as tough as what we 918 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: had now. And then I picked if you talk to 919 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,919 Speaker 1: like really good blacktail hunters, Um, there is adamant as 920 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: our white tail deer hunters in the Midwest say about 921 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: like first week in November, Like, if you're gonna hunt 922 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: any week first week in November, it could vary because whatever, 923 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: but that's like if you're gonna like go buy calendar 924 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: dates a year in advance, first week in Novembers when 925 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: you want to be there. But uh, there is it's substantiated. 926 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: There's some lower deer numbers right now, Samantha. You were 927 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: informed of this by the Tongas National Forest, right they 928 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: warned you some low deer numbers. Um. You get all 929 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: kinds of opinions about it. It It seems that that one 930 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: of the more popular opinions about it is, uh, wolves, 931 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: too many wolves, not many deer round and even places 932 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: like where I've just just in my knockings around over 933 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the years, places where I know there to be trails 934 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: that are generally like pretty beat down trails struck me 935 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: as being moss see not beat down, and it was 936 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: just it seemed like just low amounts of sign um 937 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: and and then precipitation. But we had like the great opportunity, 938 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: um to wander around in in virgin old growth coastal rainforest, 939 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: which is something what do you think of just I 940 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: mean that that whole kind of dripping mossy seen there, 941 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: which isn't totally foreign to you because you grew up 942 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: in in the Northwest. Yeah, I think we talked a 943 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: little bit about it because it was it was stationed 944 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 1: out of Fort Lewis and we did a lot of 945 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: training in Washington State, so it reminded me of you know, 946 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: those years. Uh. But it's uh, it's it's beautiful when 947 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: when you're looking at it, uh and you're experiencing it, 948 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and I think there's a combination of things there which 949 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, to go out and experience the elements the 950 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: way they are ah in this this is you know, 951 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: it's cold and it's wet and it's green and everything's what. 952 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 1: But to become part of that environment where you get 953 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 1: to just experience everything about it, um, you know, I 954 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: I truly love those opportunities. I don't think that if 955 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: you're if you're not enjoying the environment because of the moisture, 956 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: you're you're not enjoying the entire immersive experience for a 957 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: lack of a better definition. So it's hard to get into, um, 958 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, lamenting about what you're doing when you're in 959 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: such a wonderful, beautiful place where everything about it is 960 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: giving you this this experience that you should be you know, 961 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: soaking up for a lack of a better term, like 962 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: a sponge and instead of wishing it were otherwise, Oh, 963 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I didn't wish for a second it would be otherwise. 964 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: That's that that would be. There are times I get 965 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: guilty that a little bit now and then we're just 966 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: wishing it wasn't raining. Oh I do, I do? But 967 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: then I instantly catch myself. I'm like, well, that would 968 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: take away from the experience because the funny thing is 969 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: about as I'm wishing is not raining. How do I 970 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: always describe it to people. It's a coastal rainforest, right, yeah, 971 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: it's like temperate rainforest. It's beautiful. It's beautiful, and then 972 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: you go there in the rains, I'm like, damn, we're good. 973 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: I was wishing it was otherwise were the rain. I 974 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: was wishing that you guys had seen more dear. Yeah, um, yeah, 975 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't know even that. Nope, I still dear. I 976 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: think that made the story better. Yeah, eventually because a 977 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: little it was looking like, you know, we we kept 978 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: at it, I mean, how to sell people. So I 979 01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: was we hunted four full days dark to dark. Um, 980 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I saw two dos and then and that's moving, NonStop moving, calling, moving, 981 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: calling like like hunting, hunting up high down, whoa in between? 982 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: It was tough man. Um, you spent a much time 983 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: in the military. Uh and and I always like, maybe 984 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: it's not true, but I always imagine the military that 985 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: the people who excelled in the military have like, um, 986 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: developed like a level of discipline that I don't have, 987 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: mental mental discipline that I don't have, but I noticed 988 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: that you would. It just be like against your upbringing 989 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: to have complained or brought up that we weren't seeing things. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, 990 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: you just do not something you're gonna do. I started 991 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: after a few days, I'm like, I don't think he's 992 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm glad he's not gonna do it. 993 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to do that. No, No, 994 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: it goes back to the whole thing like this is 995 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: a you know, this is an incredible opportunity, right, And 996 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: I was explaining this, I think it was yesterday or 997 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 1: something like that, like, you know, you're you're part of 998 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: American history at this point, you and the brand and 999 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: the people that you bring in, You're part of American 1000 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: outdoors and history. So for me just to sit out 1001 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: here and get the opportunity to go out and hunt 1002 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: with you, I would be foolish if not, like really 1003 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: remiss to to you know, cherish this opportunity and say, man, 1004 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting I get to hunt with Steve, like how 1005 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: many other people in America? Like going back to that 1006 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: same point as making want to do that, if not internationally, 1007 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: So you know, I get to watch you in your 1008 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,919 Speaker 1: environment as an American you know, outdoor icon, and then 1009 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 1: get to share several days with you in this you know, 1010 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: incredible place where regardless of how much it rained or 1011 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, if you're cold or whatever, it might be 1012 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Like that's part of it. Like I get to you know, 1013 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: live those five days Like what a what a what 1014 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: an incredible gift? And so if I would have been 1015 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: like dude, we're not seeing a lot of deer. That's 1016 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: not why I'm here. I'm not here. Yeah, no ship. 1017 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: And it's like, oh you wish you were seeing more. Yeah, 1018 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: like master the obvious, you've been like, yeah, no ship, 1019 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: you're not seeing any deer. So it's you know, it 1020 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: is it's it's hunt. It's it's that it's hunting. And 1021 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've had a lot of really cool life 1022 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: experiences that you know, and this, this will live up 1023 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: there with those those experiences, you know. So for me, 1024 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, hey, we're hunting. This is great, 1025 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: so dark dark great, extend the daylight, Let's walk a 1026 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit more, let's have you know, I have a 1027 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: little bit more time in the field, because it wouldn't 1028 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: be the same if it wasn't really respected. So you know, 1029 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: that's one thing that is you know, truly thankful for. 1030 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: And I thank you guys for really inviting me because 1031 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: it was incredible time. And I really can't thank you 1032 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: enough for for for allowing me that opportunity because it's incredible. 1033 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, I can sit here and say that the 1034 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: more I think about it, I um, if you don't 1035 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: count a dead one, I never did see a buck. No, 1036 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: we were set up calling and Dirt said he saw 1037 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the flick of a tailway stopped. Yeah, And I could 1038 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: tell by his like, and then attention was focused in 1039 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the way that I couldn't see, and I could. It's 1040 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: funny because all I could, I can just like see 1041 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: you you Evan, and I could read by your like 1042 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: whatever posture I could read you seeing it. I could 1043 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: read you um knowing that there would soon potentially be 1044 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: a shot opportunity. I could see through your posture the 1045 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: shot opportunity present itself. And I never saw the deer 1046 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: until he walked up on it. But it's like it 1047 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: was like I was watching it just by watching, sort 1048 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: of like the muscle tension or something in like I'm like, 1049 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: that is the sort of physical tightening of a man 1050 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: who just saw dear. I'll go back to something, which is, 1051 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: like you said, there's like a level of discipline right 1052 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 1: where you're talking about, like level of discipline that you 1053 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 1: know some guys in the military get if they're you know, 1054 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 1: they're professional soldiers. I think you know, any any person 1055 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: that comes to that, I would say fractions of a 1056 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: percentile within their profession. It takes a significant amount of discipline. 1057 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: It just does. And you know, seeing you out there 1058 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: and then seeing you like I've been around a ton 1059 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: of guys that are masters of their profession and you 1060 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: can see it. You're you're part of that. Like really 1061 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: small fraction of people have a ton of discipline. So 1062 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 1: I think that that's that was one thing I was. 1063 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: I was It was very um in awe of I 1064 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 1: was like just looking at how you're working the entire 1065 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 1: scenarios throughout those days of hunting and then looking at 1066 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: you and saying, oh yeah, Like I thought about it 1067 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: multiple times. It's like, if Steve was in the Army, 1068 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: he would have been an adult force guy. Like, if 1069 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: he was in the arm he would have been Delta 1070 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 1: Delta Force. Yeah, Darren would have been with me dragging 1071 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: our knuckles. He would have been a machine gunner. It's 1072 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: just like Dirty Booth in the Conversar. Black Market gets 1073 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 1: so laser focused and the pursuit of what you're going for. 1074 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: It was it was really Ah, it's not it doesn't 1075 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 1: pay the right respect to the term, but it is 1076 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: not only interesting, but man, it gave me a whole 1077 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: new level of kind of what you do as a profession. 1078 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: It does like it gives me an entirely, entirely different perspective. 1079 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, man, Touch on real quick before you wrap up, 1080 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 1: touch on shrimping. Those things are delicious. They're incredibly delicious. Um. 1081 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,600 Speaker 1: The thevarience of going out on the water, because I 1082 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 1: haven't been out on on the water ton. I've spent 1083 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of time in the ocean. Uh, but 1084 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: going out, we spent a lot of time on rivers, 1085 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: a lot of time on rivers and ocean. Yeah, you know, 1086 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 1: going out and and you know, experiencing the ocean with 1087 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: you understand that you have much more confidence in the 1088 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: boat and your skills than I do. Uh what confidence 1089 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: in your boat and your skills? It's a joke, falls 1090 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: it's me saying I don't. He has a lot of 1091 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: confidence everybody else in that big water. Uh. Now I 1092 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: think it's Uh, it's worked too. I can imagine, you know, 1093 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 1: dumping those pots, and then I kept thinking about the 1094 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: manual process of dragging those things up after you dumped them, 1095 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: because you're talking about those guys as old shrimpers pulling 1096 01:11:54,439 --> 01:12:00,639 Speaker 1: those pots up without that assist man the hand pull 1097 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: smaller ones, and it was you know, it's it's like recreational, 1098 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 1: but it gives you sort of a glimpse. It gives 1099 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: you a glimpse into the commercial life. You get worn 1100 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: out trying to coil most Yeah, it's like my arms 1101 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 1: got tired just trying to throw the rope into a 1102 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: perfect circle. You took to that fast though. Just filming 1103 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 1: you guys the shrimp and when you guys were in 1104 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: action together, it was like after the first pot pulling, 1105 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,680 Speaker 1: it was like we're like Bubba Gump. Yeah, all right, 1106 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 1: Well that's what I like about him because he's like, oh, 1107 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: that's how you do it. He just explains it and 1108 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 1: then he expects you to know. It's like you've been 1109 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 1: doing it for ten years. You guys around here, through 1110 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: this and around that, and then you just hit the switch. 1111 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: You get okay, we're going you know what do you say? 1112 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: I don't even know are we in the woods, are 1113 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: we on the water? I don't even know where the 1114 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: hell we're at right now. And uh know that that 1115 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: tire process was so so cool, um, you know, the 1116 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 1: shrimping itself and be able to rip those things apart. 1117 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: That's probably one of the most satisfying things outside of 1118 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: like you know, pushing in bubble wrap, like tearing shrimp 1119 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: heads apart. It's almost it's almost as cool as pop bubble. 1120 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Seth and I were talking about It's like, man, I 1121 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: could do this for a couple of hours before I 1122 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,800 Speaker 1: get sick of it, cause you're the playing game like 1123 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I want to get all of it, and then you're 1124 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: thinking about how delicious those things are. I don't care 1125 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 1: how hard it is to lift that. It's called yeah, 1126 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 1: it's called popping heads. Yeah. Uh, you know, I want 1127 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: to tell people about the thing that that we did 1128 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: for cooking that I thought was cool and I had 1129 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: different I've honestly never seen it. I don't know that's 1130 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: how it worked. But you had what do you call 1131 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,759 Speaker 1: the beans? Green? Yeah? They're green. Yeah, so they're green beans, 1132 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: green coffee beans. Yeah, from Ethiopia and over like a 1133 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: we we have a boiler we use outside the boil 1134 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a people use some deep fried turkeys. 1135 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:04,719 Speaker 1: And we used to boil crabs um big propane fired 1136 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 1: burner the river blaster and uh, it took the beans 1137 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: which looked like they're like khaki colored. I don't know, 1138 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: can you wouldn't look at it? You look at and 1139 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 1: think you're looking at it like a like a like 1140 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: a yeah, like you think you're looking at a lentil, 1141 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 1: but it's a coffee bean. And then in a cast 1142 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 1: iron pan over that outdoor burner, slowly and methodically over 1143 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 1: how many minutes you think it takes. That one took 1144 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: us a while. It took us twenty five minutes, give 1145 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,679 Speaker 1: or take which the classic cast there and skillet turned 1146 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: him into like those glossy dark coffee beans, man, not 1147 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: turned them into but roast rolls them over fire and 1148 01:14:55,479 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 1: then um, immediately and all you said it like ideally 1149 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: let him sit a few days. We didn't do that. 1150 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 1: We didn't do it. Immediately ground them and then made 1151 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: like a coffee rube. That was just some brown sugar, salt, coffee, pepper, pepper. Yeah, 1152 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 1: and uh, I eat a lot of you know, like 1153 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: every time taking Harry in the planet sells some kind 1154 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of coffee rub right, you run into it. But man, 1155 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 1: that tasted like coffee. Yeah, that was a good coffee rub. 1156 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: I would suggest people to do that. Get like really 1157 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: like make it from scratchy and not with your old 1158 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: ground up ship you got in the cupboard. Well you 1159 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 1: gotta make it. If I have one suggestion for guys 1160 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: making coffee rubs out there, which I've made several, is 1161 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: you get a light hole being coffee and you grind it. 1162 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: You got to use what the reason I say a 1163 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: light roasted coffee is because whatever you're gonna put it in, 1164 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a pan or oven or wherever you're gonna go, 1165 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna it will cook the coffee. More So, if 1166 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 1: it's already a really dark French rusted coffee or something 1167 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: like that and it's already been ground, you're not getting 1168 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 1: the additional layers of taste that you would from a 1169 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: lighter coffee that you have to grind and then put 1170 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: in to your coffee rub that also continues to roast 1171 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: on the meat because you wanted to have a little 1172 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: bit of time on the meat while it's roasting and 1173 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 1: not burning it into char. That makes sense. And if 1174 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: you're already on the cusp of burnt, yeah, it just 1175 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: turns more burnt. And that's why I think a lot 1176 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: of people don't use a lot of coffee in their 1177 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: coffee rubs because they haven't been able to put enough 1178 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: coffee in there where it doesn't turn into just really burnt, 1179 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: acidic char It just doesn't taste very good. Most of 1180 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,639 Speaker 1: the coffee rubs that use a lot of coffee, they 1181 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: don't appeal to me. But if I use a really 1182 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 1: lightly roasted coffee, freshly grinded before I put it in 1183 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: the rub, that's when it always gets better because you 1184 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,160 Speaker 1: can taste your point. You can taste the coffee in 1185 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: the rub. It was, it was, It was nice, like 1186 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: tasted coffee in a very nice way. On dear tenor one. Oh, 1187 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: then there's one last hot coffee tip. I want you 1188 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,719 Speaker 1: to give people. Uh, when someone asked if you want light, 1189 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: medium or dark, thought they were giving you escalating caffeine levels. 1190 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 1: That's not true. Explain that it's a myth. So raise 1191 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: your hand if you in this room, raise your hand. 1192 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: If you thought like I did, until when you know 1193 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: about caffeine levels, that light, medium, dark was like increasing caffeineness. No, 1194 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 1: I thought it was all the same caffeine. I just thought, 1195 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 1: like a dark roast is like your real like bitter 1196 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 1: strong coffee. They had anything to do how much caffeine 1197 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: was in there. I didn't think it was a measurement 1198 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: of caffeine. I assumed that like, the darker it got, 1199 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 1: the more of it was in there, the more of everything, 1200 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,679 Speaker 1: And that's not it's not true. So you're your lightest 1201 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 1: coffee and there's some um wait, there's a there's a 1202 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 1: white coffee, which is it's barely roasted, and that has 1203 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:12,799 Speaker 1: the most caffeine program and then if you go light, medium, dark, 1204 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: it has the most caffeine. If you're in a light 1205 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,440 Speaker 1: coffee versus a dark coffee, because as you roast the coffee, 1206 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 1: you're burning it, so you have less of the intact 1207 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: coffee bean. So you're deconstructing the caffeine as you're burning it, 1208 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: and you're making smoke and carbon. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. 1209 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: So if you want more caffeine, you need to have 1210 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: a lighter coffee. Uh. And it's interesting because a lot 1211 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: of people they think that, they're like, I want a 1212 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: dark roasted coffee with lots I want I want something 1213 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 1: really strong. Well, it's a strong flavor, but it doesn't 1214 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: have as much caffeine. Um. I drink really like coffees, 1215 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 1: not because I like the caffeine. It's because I like 1216 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 1: to taste the coffee itself and not just burnt. Once 1217 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 1: one thing that I have noticed is when I go 1218 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: to my normal coffee spot, I usually get a dark 1219 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 1: roast from that, and then almost every little cafe that 1220 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: I go to, you know, some mom and pops, greasy 1221 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: spoon cafe, it always seems like a lighter roast coffee 1222 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 1: at these places because people don't like them super dark. 1223 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: And it seems like I always get way more jittery 1224 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: and like feel more caffeineated at these mom and pop stores. 1225 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: And it's probably because you're drinking more cups. No, well, 1226 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 1: it could be two things. Because there's guy that owns 1227 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 1: the coffee company. There's two, there's two. Well, I'll I'll 1228 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 1: be like, well, I don't know if I was just 1229 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: saying no, because I don't know if I'll tell you 1230 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: the reason. So here's the reason why is less expensive 1231 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,599 Speaker 1: coffee is a Robusta. It's it's a different strain. There's 1232 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: two main strains, Robusta and Arabica. So if you look 1233 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 1: at the two main branches, Arabica has we'll call it 1234 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: less caffeine than the Robusta, but the Arabica is more expensive. 1235 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 1: So the Robusta hit me again. I want to make 1236 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: sure I remember, so you have two main streams of coffee, 1237 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Arabica and Robusta. Robusta is less expensive, but it has 1238 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: more caffeine. It's a smaller bean, it's less expensive, and 1239 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 1: it has more caffeine. Arabica is typically more expensive and 1240 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:32,759 Speaker 1: has less caffeine. But Arabica you can get better tastes 1241 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: out of it, so you can increase the profile, so 1242 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 1: you're better. Coffee shops are typically going to serve in Arabica. 1243 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 1: Your diners are gonna typically serve a Robica or a Robusta, 1244 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 1: And so that's why you feel more jittery, is because 1245 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: they're using a different caffeine or a different bean. M 1246 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: When you get that, I think that's pretty cool because 1247 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I always wonder why that's the reason, because you can 1248 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 1: buy it in bulk, and a lot of the less 1249 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,640 Speaker 1: expensive coffees that are out there, you're gonna buy them 1250 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 1: in like five pounds bags, and a lot of the 1251 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 1: diners are going to go for the less expensive option 1252 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 1: through a food vendor, and you know that's what they're 1253 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: gonna use. And they're and they're not using proper water 1254 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 1: to coffee ratios either, which is totally different conversation. But sure, 1255 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 1: we don't need it. We just lost half your podcast 1256 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: after after Chester does the check at book, yeah, which 1257 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: we still haven't. Okay, he's gotta go through all the channels. 1258 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna get his project green lit. Yep, we have 1259 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,560 Speaker 1: green lit. Well, let's say he gets a green lit. Okay, 1260 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna do that. He's gonna go on and have 1261 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: all the other adventures in life, and then he's gonna 1262 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: open a place called Chester's Egg Factory, and it's gonna 1263 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: be a breakfast coffee place. He's gonna serve robust. Of course. 1264 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Then you guys will show up more because he gave you. Guys, 1265 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 1: we got those free totals. Don't be telling people about 1266 01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: because people. I don't want people breaking into my house 1267 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 1: and take my free toe a man. Oh yeah, that's 1268 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,600 Speaker 1: a lifetime token. Yeah, it's lifetime. I gotta say to 1269 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 1: When the rub you made was when we had coffee 1270 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 1: this morning wrapping up, there was an aha moment of 1271 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 1: how good that was. It's really good, right, just because 1272 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,559 Speaker 1: it was so freshly roasted. And then one more thing, yep, 1273 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: something special about the blacktail. Dear place to see relic 1274 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 1: with that, Ladies and gentlemen join us next time on 1275 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: the Meting Podcast. Thanks everybody,