WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Buc Stops Here? 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:18.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.000 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:34.559 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.240 and Bill Jones. And it's time to kick off your 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:44.319 football weekend, a holiday football weekend at that. This is 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.640 talking Cowboys and the Cowboys with a chintz to clinch 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.400 the NFC East Done Sunday afternoon in front of the 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.880 home folks at at and T Stadium, and right off 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.000 the top, I'd like to make a pact with you guys. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.360 What are you gonna do that we'll gar and tea 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.760 a Cowboys victory. I'm already planning on wearing my Cowboys 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.920 Tommy Johns on Sunday. If everyone will wear their Cowboys 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.280 Tommy Johns on Sunday, will guarantee of victory. What do 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.399 you say? It sounds good. I gotta get mine washed, 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.480 go for it. Were mine on Wednesday, So I gotta 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.360 get them washed. Okay, but sure, yeah, we'll take a 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.759 picture together. Tommy john that's a bad that this group 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.959 that this group that's a bad idea. We don't have to. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.120 I have no interest in being part of that, you know, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:35.800 whatever clothes on? Oh well, how would we? Oh just hey, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.720 just no, they're not riding up right? What about this? 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.280 I just had this visual. I'm trying to purge every visual. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.240 Right now, we take a picture of our Tommy John's right, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.000 just Tommy John's just not wearing them, but just now 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.560 wearing them. No, no, we're not doing that, like we're 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.880 at the beach then and this show has gone so bad? 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.920 And then where at then on top of that, where 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.880 our stats and cowboy hats. That's the worst idea I've 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.600 never had your entire I love all the products, but yeah, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:16.960 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a magic Mike and 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.440 you're black Tommy. No, no, no, we're not. Imagine I've 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.079 lost weight, but not then. All right, so here we are. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.760 It's a week sixteen in the National Football Great slate 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.519 of games starting on Saturday that yeah impact the Cowboys 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.440 somewhat and uh and then the big game on Sunday. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.400 And how you're feeling about things, Brian, you've been breaking 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.880 it down all week. Yeah, you know what, I usually 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.360 save this for the end. But you know, I think 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.600 that my game plan and every week I do a 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.600 thing called Cowboys win if Dallas wins. If this, to me, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.480 is a game that you have got to just go 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.600 out and it's not about execution and it's not about 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.200 you know, play calling and all that this. You've got 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.520 to go out there and destroy Tampa's will to compete 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.399 in this game. That You've got to go out there 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.400 and give them a reason to quit, you know. I mean, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.200 they've made some changes with Mark Duffner now becoming a 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.760 defensive coordinator. They're playing a little bit better there. They 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.679 can rush the past, or they got an offense, he'll 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.040 throw it around a little bit. But there's a reason 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.600 why this team is five and nine, and you've got 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.079 to go out there and make them quit. You've got 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.840 to go out and find whatever whatever awful, dark feeling 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.920 you had in your stomach when you were three and 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.800 five and bring that back up this week and play 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.080 with that kind of attitude. You know, you you there's Tampa. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.000 Tampa is looking for a reason. They've got one foot 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.640 in the parking lot right now. Don't give them a 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.440 reason to hang around this game, you know, I mean, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.040 and you could say, oh, they need to red zone 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.760 and block and this, and no, just go just take 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.440 it to them. Play like you've played the last five weeks, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.040 the Indianapolis game. Indianapolis played that way. They did that 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.880 to you. You need to go out and play against 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.080 Tampa Bay that way today to win this game. Take 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.320 out your frustrations from last Sunday on them. You need 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.159 you don't need this to go any further. Just go 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.000 go replay what I just told the guys on the fan. Well, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.800 we didn't have an opportunity to hear that. Don't replay it. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.440 I see if you can recreate and recreate it without 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.320 I said, go out there and knock the devil out 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.559 of them to start, and let them go find a 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.880 nice soft pill to put their heads out. I agree 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.039 with you. Don't give them a reason to play. Don't 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.120 give them a reason to stick around and say, oh, yeah, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.240 you know what, we can win one. Yeah we can 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:48.320 still beat the Cowboys at and T Stadium. Yeah, don't 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.880 give them any reason. Yeah, so it might might. I 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.360 mean my one gift two gifts to the Cowboys on 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.920 Wednesday was Zach Martin played. I think that's going to 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.200 be delivered that's a and the other ones take the 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.280 first drive of the game and go stuff it right 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.919 down their throats and score it touchdown. Yeah, not a 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.120 field goal, So you're not deferring. I am taking the 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.640 ball and going down and scoring. M I like, Okay, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.760 I didn't hear your I didn't hear you say that 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.680 on one oh five three. But I like your attitude. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.120 I think that's you saved it for here. Yes, I said, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.080 I said it with a little more. Go ahead, Bryan 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.840 intensity No, Rob, I'm sorry. No, y'all are absolutely right. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.120 You still have to do the things better that you've 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.960 been doing poorly in recent weeks to win this game, though. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.840 You got to be able to finish drives because this 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.119 is a team that you're playing that can move the ball, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.680 and Dak Prescott has got to get more protection upfront. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.800 Those things still have to happen for you to win 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.839 decisively in this game, and I think it can be done. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.480 But they've got some things offensively that they've got to 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.240 show up, and they might win this division by default. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.400 Who knows, you know, Washington might lose on Saturday, Philly 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.520 might lose on Sunday. He might not matter what the 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.440 result is the odds are still heavily in your favor 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.719 that you're gonna make the playoffs. But I'm looking you know, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.000 if you're looking down to January, there's things they've got 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.680 to fix as well. Yeah, and fix QUI well, look well, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.360 I think in Zach Martin back is. Yeah. I think 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.440 having an all pro pro bowled guard back in the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.839 lineup helps. I think suel Philo will help. He had 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.039 a full practice yesterday. I think it's looking good for him. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.400 Um So getting healthier up front in general, I think 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.640 helps your chances of both those things. And I'm with you, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.080 I think defensively, I've marked that one as an aberration. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.920 I think they're much better than what they showed. Uh, mistackles, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.440 all those things. They can get that cleaned up. Everything 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.960 you're talking about that needs to be fixed was not 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.920 fixed during that five game winning stream. That's why I'm 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.960 kind of going that route myself. Now now that you 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.839 lost one, Oh my god, this in this, in this, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.760 it's been this, this and this. They were able to 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.159 were coming during the five game winning streak. Yeah, but 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.880 you'll lose one and now everybody's on board. With the 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.200 offensive line. I don't think that's it. They're just on 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.760 board with the red zone that's been going on all 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.360 season long. Now they're on board with the sacks. Oh, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.280 quarterback can't get sacked that many times. I don't think 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.240 that's it. I think people were very worried by that 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.240 performance because it wasn't an aberration, because it was innuation 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.400 of problems, as you just said, but it was the 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.320 things that have been haunting them all season's. That's right, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.920 and you're in you're in mid December, late December, and 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.640 it's still cropping up. And what happens when the defense 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.640 has had they won? Nobody would have brought this stuff up. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.040 I think it's been been talked about on this show. Well, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.000 I mean, but I'm saying, do you see what's going 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.000 on now? And the press conferences, the questions that he's 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.120 getting those weren't the questions two weeks ago or three 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.440 weeks ago, and those same things have been haunting them 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.600 all season long. I don't know things, Robert, I really don't. Well, 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.240 I just said getting getting Zack back helps, you know, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.560 so a philo helps? Oh? No, playing with Zach Mark, Yeah, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.880 clearly a good thing. But you guys are absolutely right. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.760 This is I mean, this red zone ranking is a 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.680 season long thing. It's not I think we all as 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.480 a show worry about what could happen to this team 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.640 in the playoffs with no protection, with no ability to 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.720 score in the red zone. You know, yeah, I think 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.400 we're all worried about that. To your of the opinion 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.320 that the red zone fix can happen until there's a 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.720 personnel fix in the off season, I think I think 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.719 the thing. I think the Rob was going the right 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.560 way when he was starting to talk about health. But yeah, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.839 I think that I do think that's clearly the case. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.000 I think they have to figure out whether that's whether 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:50.440 that's a scheme change, personnel change, coaching change. This is 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.960 something that will be a long, hard study when this 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.000 is all said and done. You're right about that. The 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.559 one thing I'll say about the red zones. Every time 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.319 they get down there, I have hope because they have 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.680 Zekiel Elliott and because they have Dak Prescott, because we've 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.840 seen those read option plays work for them with Dak 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.320 with Zeke. Every time they get down there, I'm like, well, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.960 they've got there. They have talent to score and score quickly. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.080 It kind of surprises me every time they stall it 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.000 really does. Maybe I'm maybe I'm a sap, but it 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.680 kind of no. I think we've all I think we 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:28.040 all believe in Zeke and Travis, Zack Martin and Tyrann Smith. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.000 We all believe in those guys. It's that we just 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.120 keep we haven't been proven that has been proven to 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.480 us that it can work. But see the problem is, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.160 and Lenahan finally spelled it out yesterday. Just what you said. Okay, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.080 we got Dak and we got Zeke, but you know 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.480 what that mother eleven guys know the same thing they're 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.440 key in on twenty one and four, is what he says. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.199 And it's like that that somebody else has got to 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.560 step up in those situations. Somebody's got to get open, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:00.720 somebody's got to catch the ball, somebody's gotta the second. Yeah, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.679 you know, but but they're gonna look at twenty one 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.000 and four. We're stopping them now beat us. Now, I'll 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.600 allay my you know my bet on stopping twenty one 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.920 in four. Now, find somebody else is gonna beat me 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.120 from the four yard line. But if you as we 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.439 chronicled earlier this week, the last couple of years, they 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.680 were perfectly fine in the red zone. Yes, they were 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.200 third in the league in the red zone in twenty sixteen. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.240 They were sixth in the league last year in the 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.240 red zone. Seventy two eighty two exactly eighty eight, right, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.560 makes a big difference, that's right, seventy two eighty two 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.079 eighty eight. That that right there in itself, That's that's 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.080 where I talk about where Lenahan is looking at it 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.599 in saying they know the eleven no when eleven no, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.320 but eleven are trying to stop three other things. I 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.400 didn't even include twenty one. And I didn't include four 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.360 in there, you know, like Mickey was talking about, that's 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.240 five different options that you have right there, you know, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.040 or well, Travis Frederick being the center. But at least 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.400 I've said this, but even last you didn't have zag 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.200 Martin either. What happened, Yeah, what happened? When you know? Yeah, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.160 they what happened. They run a fourth down play to 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.600 try and get a first down, to try and get 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.800 a fresh set of down to the goal line backdoor play. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.520 They don't get the guard across. That was no center 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.360 and not your regular right guard playing there. Yeah, So 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.400 are those fixable right now? I mean they are fixable 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.120 if you put seventy back in the lineup, which Mickey's right, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.640 he's gonna play. He's gonna play for you heard good 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.080 things about him yesterday. But again, is it Is it 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.440 gonna be enough when you get into the playoffs. That's 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.480 my worry about this football team. I don't worry about 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.520 the defense. I worry about I worry about what this 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.400 offense is going to do. And the other thing Scott 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.280 Lindhan said yesterday was he thinks guys maybe press in 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.160 a little bit because they've had trouble down there and 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.000 it's like, I don't have that. Here we go again thing. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.280 You know, Oh, he's got it right now. There's catchable plays, 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.480 you know, Ola, Wally Beasley, Noah Brown. Although that wasn't 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.080 a great throw by Dak because of pressure a few 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.439 games ago, they've had opportunities. You know, these tight ends 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.520 are coming along. Maybe that can help down there. Um 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.600 but you yeah, you said it. It's not the same 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.199 red zone group that. Oh no, We've all said it. 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.840 This is nothing new to us. How many catches have 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.600 the tight ends made in the red zone. It's a 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.040 good question. That's a great question, Bill, Bob, you got it. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.080 I don't answer. I don't have the answer. I'm trying 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.320 to remember the ones that they had that were touchdowns. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.840 We haven't had any of those. You haven't had Blake. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.600 We haven't had the Blake jar when touchdown down there, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.560 we haven't had a We tried to throw the ball 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.200 earlier to Rico Gathers in a jump ball situation there. Well, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.920 I got an answer to this question. How many touchdowns 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.400 I'm trying to I was trying to give me some time, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.080 trying to give you some time. Yeah, I was the 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.959 tight ends have I don't think the time they have one. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.000 They have one one one Jeff Swain, Jeff Swain. Yeah, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.920 I'm thinking healthy time. Yeah, Jeff's still out. Yeah. Yeah. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.040 I see a lot of zeros here. And by the way, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.600 we get we get tweets about questions about Jeff swam 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.920 and when he might be able to return. Anybody got 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.120 any else I do? I was told that he cannot 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.000 even think about playing until the screws come out of 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.400 his wrist. And when I was talking to him Wednesday, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.800 he said the screws, uh, probably will come out in 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:31.120 two weeks, so that's the end of the season. And 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.440 then he said I've got to get movement back in 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.280 my hand. There's a rod in there. And he goes 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.640 and he showed me he was doing this. He goes, see, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.600 I can do this here here I can't. And I 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.320 was thinking he's done. Yeah, he's not going to play again. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.920 There you go, not this year. Yeah, unless you make 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.880 a long playoff. Maybe by the super Bowl. Well, this 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.719 is this Bill's twelve game. All right, Now, we got 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.679 blown last week, but all right, this is where we 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.640 think about getting the cornerback on it. CJ. Good one, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.439 good one back on back at practice because he yeah, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.319 he's back at practice. But if they're gonna make a move, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.199 they're gonna have to use a roster spot. And it 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:15.640 sounded like no one whoever else is on. Are Dayton 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.560 Jones not gonna make it? William's not gonna make it back? Yeah, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.600 if they're gonna activate, if they're gonna activate a guy, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.840 they're gonna have to make a roster spot move. Is 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.760 it gonna come from Swam or is it gonna come 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.080 from David Irving? You know, those are two spots right 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.720 there that you can kind of think about. And they 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.000 want good One back on there for special teams they do. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.480 They do, so we'll see if they canna have a 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.600 difficult choice this weekend too. It's thinking about their forty six. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.560 If in fact, the general manager would like to see 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.680 Taco play a little more, you know, he said, hey, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.480 I'd like to let you know. And every once in 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.240 a while, when the general manager says he'd like to 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.120 see Rico Gathers play a little more, Rico Gathers played 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.200 a little more. So if you're smart, you kind of 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.080 figure that out. You get Taco out there some way. Now, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.200 that means somebody's gonna have to sit, you know who 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.400 sits in that regard. I mean, I'm sure that's a 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.640 full another thing that we can get into. But and 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.520 here's a positive, because we've talked about a lot of 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.000 things that haven't gone right so far, they're they're pretty 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.640 healthy all things considered. In mid December, as I knock 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.640 on wood, I mean, they're getting healthier. They've got decisions 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.320 to make from fifty three to forty six on Sunday 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.640 because a lot of guys are coming back ready to go. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.600 I don't know about Tavon. I wouldn't I wouldn't get him. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.800 He's still he's still limited trying to work his way back. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.480 He didn't sound like he was, you know, one hundred 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.880 percent last week. But other guys are getting back. Shawn 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.560 Lee's getting back. You know, you can judge that one 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.400 by how Garrett answered the question. Yeah, did we over 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.600 not we Maybe maybe too much conversation about the Shawn 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.480 Lee situation. Maybe that's taking care of itself. Did we 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.120 over over meaning that he's got to play, He's got 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.160 to you know, how do you take vander esh off 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.600 the field? And you know all that well wringing of 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.720 hands and gnashing of teeth caught me in as being 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.680 surprised that he played last week. Yeah, I thought they'd 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.760 give him another week and then this would be the 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.960 week he comes back. Yeah, and basically seven plays. That's 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.200 must have been thinking the same thing I was. I 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.160 think that they're they're thinking well, and and they kind 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.920 of explained it this way that it's kind of like 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:23.760 training camp preseason for him, working him in gradually you're hoping, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.880 you're hoping this is a playoff run, and so you know, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.040 just kind of manage it and get him back. Because 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.560 I was happing a couple different times and and it 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.200 was supposed to be a little more than seven. But 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:34.560 I think you know, the score got out of hand 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.160 last week. Yeah, I think he came off the field after. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.880 So we're saying more Shawn Lee this week? Yeah? Or 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.760 are we saying Sean Lee for twelve plays? Yeah? Maybe 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.640 something like that, maybe fifteen just a guess. I don't 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.200 because I'm just asking guys. I mean we, I mean, 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.800 Brian Broadus made a big deal about Shawn Lee needing 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.200 to play, you know, I mean I made a big 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.040 I mean like, hey, once he's back, I mean, he's 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.760 one of your better players, he's what you gotta get 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.400 him on the field. They laughed at me and said, hey, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.560 you know brought us. No, that ain't gonna happen. I 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.560 think that they agree that they want him on the field, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.480 but I think that it's how much they cost. Well, 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.120 that's the thing. They've been burned now twice this season 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.600 where he's come back and then been shelved for six weeks, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.400 and so now they've decided okay, And when you look 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.480 at it, even back in the preseason, he didn't play 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.240 in preseason games to work himself in. So now I 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.679 think that they've decided, okay, we got to treat it 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.719 as this is the beginning of his season and we 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.480 have to just gradually get him up to reps. You know, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.399 run it out of games here, aren't we. The encouraging 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.439 thing is he said he's good. Yeah, he said he 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.800 feels good. Feels like nothing went wrong in the game. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.200 So that was a good thing. And as for Zach Martin, 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.080 when I passed him in the hallway, I said, getting better, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:58.359 and he goes better and I said, okay, better. He 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.240 went over there chop blocked you. How he was going 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.160 to eat those raviolis? Yeah, lobster raviolies where were excellent. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.159 He's he's Jason witten Man. He's if he can but 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.080 if you win, he can move. He win this game. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.520 You have a you have a unique situation that you 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:18.199 could take advantage of of him resting, take advantage of 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.960 the runner. I'm I'm all for the win. This game 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.080 would be huge just for the runner, just to give 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.639 him a chance. You know, he's putting on this face 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.600 of give me the ball, give me the ball, give 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.439 me the ball, and we're all like, yes, give him 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.359 the ball, give him the ball, give him the ball, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.960 Start the ball to him, give him the ball. More 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.160 you know, and now and now he's just like he's 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.200 this poor. You know, it's like watching an endurance race, 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.879 like a lament, you know, where the cars at the 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.160 end have gone nine hundred and seventy laps and they're 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.320 just banged up and beat up and they're trying to 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.200 finish a race to win a trophy. You know, he's 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.200 touched the ball three hund that's my racing reference for 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.879 the day, three fifty eight time. Yeah, there you go 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.159 three hundred and fifty eight times. You might have to 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.480 four hundred times. This guy might have to touch the 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.440 football for you. So that's like twenty about twenty four 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.920 twenty five times a game, and every one of those 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.119 hits is like just he's like, especially lately, he's hitting people. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.840 Do you think you think he's taking hits because he's 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:25.119 not speedy, not quick, can't avoid. I think he's taking 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:29.240 hits because he's stubborn. Yeah, there's that's a good answer, Mickey. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.240 He thinks he's gonna run everybody over, And Mickey's got 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.360 the right answer there. I was thinking that maybe he's 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.520 just he's so banged up he can't he can't run, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.600 he can't run away from get just quite get away. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.119 No one thing he does. He talk about the offensive line, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.159 kind of setting the tone for the team when the 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.720 offensive line is healthy. And you know, he has that 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:53.480 toughness about the way he is. He's for that entire 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.560 yeah type offense that they want to have, right and 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.879 he is the bit between his teeth gap. He he he 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.040 wants you, He wants the ball, as long as that 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.600 official didn't come running in from fifteen yards behind the 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.840 play and throw a flag. Oh, you're being too rude, Zeke, 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.479 You're being too rough. All right. I have a question 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.200 this is going forward next week. Let's say the Cowboys 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.639 win over Tampa Bay hallelujah, and then you want to 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.480 rest Zeke and not play Zeke or a limited number 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.960 of the next win the rushing title. Well, okay, it 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.679 might mean money for him too. How many backup running 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.560 backs do you have? Well, you really you have. You 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.560 can use Ola Wally as a single back and you 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.080 can't use Hey, and you could use Rod Smith as 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.960 a back obviously Smith Smith giant killer. Okay, remember yeah, 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.840 last time? Yeah, okay, So my question is running in receiving. 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:49.960 My question is next week and when you're looking at 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.080 the roster and so forth. Yeah, Jackson, I mean that 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.560 can you afford to bring him up? That's my question 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.120 is unless you want a story on the Mickey David 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.240 I guy. Yeah, I are David Irving, ir Swam, I 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.639 are all the guys that were gonna be inactive. So 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.560 my question is, can you play a game against the 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:15.560 Giants with only Rod Smith as you're running back? Right? Yeah? 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.280 I think those are those would be your two backs. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.560 And yeah, Rod get ready for thirty carries. I'm sure 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:23.679 he would love that, you know, he would love that. Yeah, 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.240 I like your idea. What do you want to bring 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.919 somebody up? If if I'm gonna put somebody on ir oh, okay, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.359