Speaker 1: I mean, it's confusing. I didn't mean to be an actor,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say that lightly because I'm
Speaker 1: very happy to be one now. But it was never
Speaker 1: the plan. I was always going to be a filmmaker
Speaker 1: and a director, a writer, and I think as I
Speaker 1: began getting roles, it took me like three films to
Speaker 1: finally on a press junket be like, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm an actor. Hi, my name is Leo Tipton and
Speaker 1: I'm after hello everybody, and it is Tuesday, which means
Speaker 1: that's right. Another episode of Off the Beat is here.
Speaker 1: As always, I'm your host, Brian baum Gartner. You just
Speaker 1: heard from Leo Totin, an incredible person. I so enjoyed
Speaker 1: my conversation with them. They got their start on America's
Speaker 1: Next Top Model being contacted on my Space, by the way,
Speaker 1: before getting their big break on Crazy Stupid Love. You
Speaker 1: also may know them from Manhattan Love Story, Warm Bodies, Vengeance.
Speaker 1: Are you starting to notice a trend here? Steve Carrell
Speaker 1: in Crazy Stupid Love. Vengeance is BJ Novak's new film. Now,
Speaker 1: what to Steve b J and I have in common? Well,
Speaker 1: that my friends is a riddle even I could solve.
Speaker 1: Leo also has another project, an exciting new show on Peacock.
Speaker 1: It's coming out this week in fact, and if you've
Speaker 1: watched Peacock at all lately, and I do mean at all,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen the promos for it. It's called
Speaker 1: Friend of the Family. Leo stars alongside my other old
Speaker 1: friend Jake Lacey in what Leo calls a star making
Speaker 1: performance and Anna pack when. I'm so excited to watch it,
Speaker 1: and I'm also pretty excited for you to hear my
Speaker 1: conversation with Leo today. Let's have at it. I had
Speaker 1: so much fun with them. Leo tipton everyone, Bubble and Squeak.
Speaker 1: I love it. Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and Squeaker cookie
Speaker 1: every month left over from the nut before. Hi Leo, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you man? I am I'm pretty good. Little
Speaker 1: jet lags, but me too. This is yet another thing
Speaker 1: we have in common. I am jet lagged today as well.
Speaker 1: Where did you come from Los Angeles? You're in New
Speaker 1: York now, I am? Yeah? Okay? Are you what they
Speaker 1: called bi coastal? Yeah? I wish um not so much
Speaker 1: depends on what job I have at the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: I hear you eight planes in six days for me?
Speaker 1: Eight planes? It's not a joke. How where? Why? What
Speaker 1: are you? Are you what they called the know? How? Where? What? Why?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't know. I just it
Speaker 1: was just one of those crazy weeks, lots of two
Speaker 1: plane trips and so forth. Um, but I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to be talking to I just I found I found
Speaker 1: energy like thirty minutes ago, knowing that I was going
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I'm finding mine. Oh there you go. Nice.
Speaker 1: I got pressed today. And press makes me so anxious
Speaker 1: that oh god, yeah, why why? Why does to make
Speaker 1: you anxious? Doesn't? I mean, I feel like I have
Speaker 1: a difficult time socializing in general, and I think my
Speaker 1: the way that my words come out is not always
Speaker 1: in a sentence. Uh. They more just kind of like
Speaker 1: fall out of my mouth and they roll around and
Speaker 1: I'm hopefully I can pick them up quick enough that
Speaker 1: no one notices and gleaning together and like throw them back. Um,
Speaker 1: but no, I just get really nervous, and uh, eye
Speaker 1: contact is hard for me, and remembering what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is hard for me, and so it's I got to
Speaker 1: kind of put on a mask when I'm doing press,
Speaker 1: but it's you much prefer this. I yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I definitely early on it was. It was a struggle
Speaker 1: bus for me. I can't believe I just used the
Speaker 1: phrase struggle bus, but yes, yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: also tough for me, and I think I eventually decided
Speaker 1: I just don't care. So if I if that's a
Speaker 1: help for you at all, I just was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's all, it's all a game. Let's do
Speaker 1: the best we can. We're all humans on this planet
Speaker 1: and and that's it. Because I think I've got so
Speaker 1: precious about it, but like I couldn't. I can't screw up.
Speaker 1: I have to do this right. And I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I mean that is good advice. And I think the
Speaker 1: older I get, the I am finally at the point
Speaker 1: where I despise it so much that then I can
Speaker 1: kind of not care about it in that way. So
Speaker 1: it's it's less like it's less pressure going in, right,
Speaker 1: and I can coast coming out a little bit. Ye,
Speaker 1: Or it's just now when you when you start out
Speaker 1: trying to be exactly what you think that they want
Speaker 1: you to be was exhausted for me. Yes, no, I
Speaker 1: know it is and and it's so it's so different, right,
Speaker 1: and you you have an impression of who you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know who you are, but everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody is something different depending on what the circumstances is.
Speaker 1: The circumstances are I think that would be English. Um,
Speaker 1: and and you have like there's like such a decided
Speaker 1: difference between like morning show and late and and you go, well,
Speaker 1: that's not really me, but like what how do you
Speaker 1: tap into that version? Now? I know, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I hear you. I could tell you some stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's brutal. Um. Well, good luck with that. I
Speaker 1: hope this is not so painful with me today again,
Speaker 1: this is this is a good part of the day.
Speaker 1: This is a good part of the day. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: Well that makes me feel better. Um, I want to
Speaker 1: go back. Um do they call it the mini Apple?
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true. You were born
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis? I lived there? Did you know this about me?
Speaker 1: The Minnie Apple? I lived there? No? Did you do
Speaker 1: theater there? I did? Well? Were you did you do
Speaker 1: theater with? Um? No, I'm forgetting his name. I can't
Speaker 1: forget his name. He played my dad increased. Um, oh,
Speaker 1: your dad in Crazy Stupid Love. John Carroll Lynch, John
Speaker 1: Carol Lynch, John Carroll Lynch and I have not surprisingly
Speaker 1: been up for some of the same roles. So, yes,
Speaker 1: I know John. I know John well, though to be fair,
Speaker 1: he is significantly older than me. Let's be clear about
Speaker 1: umificantly older than me, that we both looked timeless. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: I know I know John. Um. You so you grew
Speaker 1: up in Minneapolis, but you were not participating in the
Speaker 1: theater scene at this point. My understanding is you were
Speaker 1: a skater. I was a figure skater. Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: incredible because in Minnesota you you learn how to tie
Speaker 1: skates before you learn how to walk. That is true,
Speaker 1: which may which is why I didn't get along so
Speaker 1: well in Minneapolis. I was not. I was not a skater.
Speaker 1: Now were you one of the did you go? Did
Speaker 1: you learn like skating on the lay? Um? We skated
Speaker 1: in the backyard. We skated in the backyard and my
Speaker 1: mom would freeze down the you know, put water and
Speaker 1: freeze down there at the pavement and we'd ruin our skates.
Speaker 1: But we have videos of of us skating in our yard,
Speaker 1: which is just obscene to me. And I actually I
Speaker 1: don't think I ever skated on a lake, which is
Speaker 1: really sad. But I guess if you're serious, that might
Speaker 1: be dangerous, Like if you're a serious skater, like bad
Speaker 1: things could happen right on a lake, you would think,
Speaker 1: although in your backyard you would think bad things could
Speaker 1: happen too. This is true. Although you know have in
Speaker 1: what is it in Norway where they the river freezes
Speaker 1: over and then people just like commute to work on
Speaker 1: ice skates and just go down the river. I have
Speaker 1: this fantasy of doing that someday. That would be Yes,
Speaker 1: that would be great, and I do you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, we'll talk about crazy
Speaker 1: stupid love. But your favorite co star in mind, Steve Carroll.
Speaker 1: You know he's a skater too, and his daughter was
Speaker 1: taking lessons um at the time. That's what I remember.
Speaker 1: He does hockey, right, he does hockey. He doesn't do
Speaker 1: figure skating. To be clear, hockey is a lot easier.
Speaker 1: That sounds like the gauntlet has been thrown. Are you
Speaker 1: still skating? You know? I stopped probably around twenty two,
Speaker 1: I think I did. I did a benefit show around
Speaker 1: and I do skate sometimes. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: did some of the things I did, like getting up
Speaker 1: and down from a chair already is that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's something getting like squatting with one leg sticking
Speaker 1: out and then standing again. Forget about it. I for
Speaker 1: the life of me, I don't know how I did it.
Speaker 1: How anyone doesn't know. Well, I don't know how it's
Speaker 1: done either, clearly. But he still like plays in the league, Steve.
Speaker 1: He's still like skates around. Yeah, but again I guess
Speaker 1: that's easier. Yeah. Actually I thought about going into going
Speaker 1: into hockey because it's I've never really done a team sport,
Speaker 1: and um, there's a lot of fun to be had
Speaker 1: in leagues. I don't think that I could make that.
Speaker 1: I'd have to do it in figure skates though, because
Speaker 1: without a topic, I don't know, it's like skating on
Speaker 1: butter knives. You couldn't do it. No, probably not, but
Speaker 1: you know, but it's easier. It's easier. Did you do
Speaker 1: could you do the jumps, like the turns, the triple
Speaker 1: sal cows, double sal cows? I'm saying that word right,
Speaker 1: you are? Uh? Could I do them? Or did I
Speaker 1: do them? He's a two different things. I could you them,
Speaker 1: and I did. Um, I wasn't good at them. I
Speaker 1: was really bad. And I was very tall. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just shive five ten and yeah, and I hit
Speaker 1: that growth spurt in high school and I realized, like
Speaker 1: everyone I was competing against is like gymnasts five two.
Speaker 1: And I'd come on the ice and just look like
Speaker 1: George the Jungle, swinging in divines and the walls and
Speaker 1: just back and forth, and I'd fall and everyone we
Speaker 1: like timber and I just slide across the ice and
Speaker 1: take out children, and um, I got to be a hazard.
Speaker 1: They made me wear an orange vest when I skated.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, because you were so tall. Uh No, we
Speaker 1: did actually have to wear vest sometimes, but not not
Speaker 1: necessarily for that, not that they told me outright, Okay,
Speaker 1: but you, let's be clear to anyone listening, you were
Speaker 1: very serious about this. You moved to Sacramento, I'm told,
Speaker 1: like an age a eat and you lived for a
Speaker 1: time with your skating coach. Is that is that right,
Speaker 1: so that you could train as much as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean I went into home schooling, and for
Speaker 1: various reasons. I bullies are a thing, and it was tricky,
Speaker 1: and so I had skating where it's I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: figure skaters are very much performers. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a circus. Especially show skating. There's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of difference behind stage at a skating show and a theater.
Speaker 1: It's just as chaotic, and I think that's probably where
Speaker 1: I fell in love with it. But um, because ice
Speaker 1: drinks are so far and few between in um Sacramento,
Speaker 1: I had to live with my coach or my my
Speaker 1: mother would be driving for like hours, four hours a
Speaker 1: day at some point she did to get me to
Speaker 1: different rinks for different lessons and all the things that
Speaker 1: go into it. Less my parents hearts for doing that. Um. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was intense. You you mentioned before you didn't you've
Speaker 1: never done team sports. Did you feel like there was
Speaker 1: a sense of community though there, even though it was
Speaker 1: individualized like before the show or was it? Was it
Speaker 1: very solo? I didn't do show skating really until later,
Speaker 1: and I think that was my favorite part of it growing.
Speaker 1: I mean, as I for the majority of my skating
Speaker 1: career was solo, and it's it's really terrifying. I was
Speaker 1: talking to someone today about it who their child wasn't skating,
Speaker 1: And now that I recalled this conversation, I realized maybe
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said this um to them. I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: skating is great. I think I've been maybe scarred a
Speaker 1: little bit by being like shoved on the ice in
Speaker 1: a spotlight at you know, nine, and then just falling
Speaker 1: all over of the ice and then being judged for
Speaker 1: it over and over and over. You're alone and you
Speaker 1: can't get off the ice, and it just and I
Speaker 1: always felt I was not a performer when it came
Speaker 1: to the athleticism of it. It was very artistic and
Speaker 1: I had nice lines, but I mean my coach would
Speaker 1: just like walk off, walk at, walk away from the boards,
Speaker 1: and I would sit there and end the program and
Speaker 1: just be like, I'm gonna get a talking to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just like failed over and over and over in
Speaker 1: the public eye, and I think that's what acting is. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: there is. There's a lot of similarities. And but let
Speaker 1: me be clear. You were a two time regional champion
Speaker 1: and you competed in four synchronized skating championships. This it
Speaker 1: sounds like you may have been falling a lot, but
Speaker 1: you also had a lot of success. You mentioned before
Speaker 1: you hit a grossbert and my understanding is that's sixteen
Speaker 1: you decided to retire. Is that is that? Why did
Speaker 1: you just get too tall physically for it? Or well?
Speaker 1: I knew that I would have loved to go into
Speaker 1: show skating. Um, a lot of my friends have been
Speaker 1: in Disney on ice and holiday holiday and ice in
Speaker 1: Europe like and yes, and it's I mean, the life
Speaker 1: is fascinating to me. But I didn't think I would
Speaker 1: be able to cut it for that long. And so
Speaker 1: I also kind of got obsessed with filmmaking at that
Speaker 1: time and realized, Okay, I can continue to focus on skating,
Speaker 1: but what am I gonna do. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: make it to the Olympics. I'm not. I just am not,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I want to figure out where
Speaker 1: else I go in this sport. So I became obsessed
Speaker 1: with filmmaking and I kind of slowly transitioned into into that.
Speaker 1: You started a film club in high school, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you were really into it. What was it about film?
Speaker 1: Why did you love it or what? What started your
Speaker 1: obsession with it? I think I was always found with
Speaker 1: a camera in my hands, like a video camera in
Speaker 1: my hands. And I think I know it's because social
Speaker 1: skills are not my strong point. Um too. You know,
Speaker 1: I was in high school before social media, and um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't normal to be filmed exactly. So I would
Speaker 1: walk around with my video camera and I was a
Speaker 1: student body officer again, like I really kind of placed
Speaker 1: myself outside. You know, students are interacting, um, but with
Speaker 1: a camera, everyone wanted to be on camera. And I
Speaker 1: was allowed in these circles that I never was allowed
Speaker 1: in before, and people wanted wanted me to be around them.
Speaker 1: They wanted to be filmed. Um. They liked the little
Speaker 1: like movies that I put together for assemblies, and it
Speaker 1: kind of it gave me. It gave me an inn
Speaker 1: and it gave me a shield and I could. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I love looking through lens. There's to me, there's
Speaker 1: nothing like it. I feel like the world just takes
Speaker 1: on a different color, in a different shape, and I
Speaker 1: see things in slow motion and it's I love catching
Speaker 1: someone laughing or just those little moments. And um, my
Speaker 1: friends probably didn't know that that's what I was looking at,
Speaker 1: mind you. Um, but it really really gave me a
Speaker 1: sense of belonging and purpose where I think I really
Speaker 1: struggled to have that outside of it. It's so interesting
Speaker 1: to me. And just hearing you talk right there, it
Speaker 1: occurs to me. You know, you're someone who has a
Speaker 1: difficult time in social settings, and you know, if I
Speaker 1: distill that down, it's like, why, well, it's it can
Speaker 1: be very chaotic. There's lots going on, there's different people
Speaker 1: who want different things from you, etcetera, etcetera. But it's
Speaker 1: it occurs to me that with a lens you can
Speaker 1: frame exactly what you want to frame, and you can
Speaker 1: examine and look at exactly what you choose to look
Speaker 1: at and interact with, which I think for someone who
Speaker 1: has a difficult time in in chaotic social situations, that
Speaker 1: must be very freeing, right Is that was that part
Speaker 1: of it? Oh? Yes, yeah, absolutely. I mean even red
Speaker 1: carpets today you can see me usually carrying a camera
Speaker 1: and if I get really nervous, I'll take a picture
Speaker 1: of you know, people taking pictures, and I use it
Speaker 1: a lot. And yeah and and and no one, I
Speaker 1: don't bug people like I don't. I'm not self conscious
Speaker 1: behind a camera. I know I know my camera and
Speaker 1: that's I'm confident where talking or walking or moving in general.
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm always trying to I'm very aware of
Speaker 1: my movements in my face and things and behind a
Speaker 1: camera just to do that and I'm sure of myself.
Speaker 1: You wanted to go to film school? Yeah, is that right?
Speaker 1: So the story I hear is you got into USC,
Speaker 1: and you are having a party congratulating you for getting
Speaker 1: into USC, and then what you found out that there
Speaker 1: was like an issue with the acceptance. What what happened? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And my sister was applying for law school at the time.
Speaker 1: She had gotten into UC, the USC, the law school,
Speaker 1: she got in everywhere. Um, And I had a letter
Speaker 1: from the dean of the film school because I had
Speaker 1: taken summer courses there and I was very excited and
Speaker 1: I only applied to film schools. I was very sure
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. And I got a letter
Speaker 1: about a week and a half letter I called. I
Speaker 1: got a call a week and a half later because
Speaker 1: we were waiting for, you know, the packet to arrive
Speaker 1: and stuff. And there have been a mistake. It happens
Speaker 1: sometimes they released because the schools roll out their acceptances
Speaker 1: at different times sometimes. And I was an early applicant.
Speaker 1: They hadn't gone. I mean something ires crossed and my
Speaker 1: S A T scores in the math section. We're not
Speaker 1: I hear they're they're not having S A T s
Speaker 1: anymore or putting a lot less emphasis on it, which, um,
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of because out of all the schools
Speaker 1: that I applied to, I didn't get into a single college.
Speaker 1: And I had a very good d p A. And
Speaker 1: it was traumatizing. And I remember hugging my dad and
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I'm so sorry I didn't get
Speaker 1: into college. My family is very, very academically driven, and
Speaker 1: I remember my dad hugging me and just going to
Speaker 1: prove them wrong. I don't know what that means. Uh really,
Speaker 1: but you know it's not It's not the end all
Speaker 1: be all, I'm telling myself still fifteen years later. Obviously
Speaker 1: for you it wasn't. But you decided to move to
Speaker 1: l A anyway, why you just want you wanted to
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah. And I had friends that were in
Speaker 1: film that we're going to USC and we're going to
Speaker 1: other schools. Um, and I knew I still wanted to
Speaker 1: be a filmmaker. There was no plan B. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was my life and I moved down and I
Speaker 1: was going to finish my g S at Santa Monica
Speaker 1: Community College, and um, I went to Marymount College and
Speaker 1: then I was going to transfer, but I was on
Speaker 1: an academic scholarship and I didn't finish my classes. I
Speaker 1: lost my scholarship. Um, and I needed money and I
Speaker 1: never went back, and then I didn't have time to
Speaker 1: go back. Right, You started getting approached by modeling recruiters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now what does that mean? Are you putting your photo
Speaker 1: out there or people are stopping you on the street. Now,
Speaker 1: I heard the MySpace story. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: that in a second, but like, how how does that happen?
Speaker 1: No one's ever approached me. A modeling recruiter has never
Speaker 1: reached out to me, So tell me how how does
Speaker 1: this happen? Um at malls. At malls, they just come
Speaker 1: up to you. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's as common nowadays. Actually I'm sure it is. But
Speaker 1: mostly through it was. It was a lot through like
Speaker 1: my space and things when we were putting it, you know,
Speaker 1: and everything was open to people, which is really terrifying
Speaker 1: to think of now that now that we know so
Speaker 1: much about it. But I would get Um, someone from
Speaker 1: Top Model recruited me through that, But yet happen't malls
Speaker 1: and um, and they're saying they're saying, like, you have
Speaker 1: a good look, you should be a model, call me
Speaker 1: or come here. Now? Were these sketchy people ever? Or
Speaker 1: was this like legit? This is like what legit people did? Um?
Speaker 1: People legit did this, and I think it was you
Speaker 1: know I they were doing it in fuls of my
Speaker 1: where I was living. Um, and I I'm not exactly
Speaker 1: sure of how legit that was. But I did some
Speaker 1: local things in Sacramento and it seemed fun and I
Speaker 1: had such low confidence, had such low com I mean
Speaker 1: that in a way, even though it did not give
Speaker 1: me confidence at all. Um, I was really trying to
Speaker 1: find some sort of acceptance or coolness. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is someone again and who like lived behind the camera
Speaker 1: because I couldn't say hi to people right now, I
Speaker 1: was on my Space. I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 1: this story. The office was well, we were almost canceled
Speaker 1: very early on, and so as a way to try
Speaker 1: to drive audience, several of us at the time, it
Speaker 1: was my Space, right, So this is before Twitter or
Speaker 1: Facebook or anything else. We were like, what do people
Speaker 1: in offices do? Well, they're on this thing called my space.
Speaker 1: And so as our characters, we got onto my space
Speaker 1: and started communicating with people as though we were working
Speaker 1: in off So that's my experience. Kevin Malone was on
Speaker 1: my space. I was never on my spit. Brian was
Speaker 1: never on my space, but Kevin Malone was and wrote
Speaker 1: blogs in character about the people that were around me.
Speaker 1: Again as a very early way to try to attract
Speaker 1: interested in the show from early Gerrilla advertisement. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: This was early. Yes, this was us or we thought
Speaker 1: we were going to be canceled like we were. So
Speaker 1: there were four or five of us. Bj Novak included,
Speaker 1: he was one of the early adopters of that too,
Speaker 1: And yes, so we so we did that. I you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember a lot of function Occasionally someone
Speaker 1: will come up to me and say we used to
Speaker 1: message on my space or something like this, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how that functionality worked. It's been
Speaker 1: so long. But so you're on there, are you posting
Speaker 1: pictures in terms of trying to get work, or you're
Speaker 1: just on You're just on my space? You know, enjoying
Speaker 1: because it was mostly music. I think that was like
Speaker 1: it's core focus. And then people would see pictures and
Speaker 1: start messaging you. Yeah, I mean I was that was
Speaker 1: it was a pretty normal thing to be on in
Speaker 1: uh in high school that was like, you know, my
Speaker 1: Space was still just college only. Um okay, So I
Speaker 1: think that was the That was the early days of
Speaker 1: kind of like an Instagram nowadays in a way a
Speaker 1: lot less, a lot less. But yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: I like all my friends were on my Space and
Speaker 1: stuff and no, no, not not posting to find anything, right,
Speaker 1: you were just there. And so someone from America's Next
Speaker 1: Top Model approaches you about coming on the show. Now,
Speaker 1: do you have modeling experience at this point through these
Speaker 1: other recruiters and stuff, or are aware that you're a model? Uh? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I mean that's such a broad term too. It's
Speaker 1: but I did some like really little things around Sacramento,
Speaker 1: and no, they they hadn't and taught more like reality
Speaker 1: television hadn't fully become what it is, and it still
Speaker 1: had this edge of oh cool, Like someone else from
Speaker 1: my school was on Top Model and it seemed just
Speaker 1: really really cool. And I went and I auditioned and
Speaker 1: I didn't get in. And then like six months later,
Speaker 1: seven months later, the same woman contacted again and asked, UM,
Speaker 1: asked I would come back in and I yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I got on the show. And so at that
Speaker 1: point it was cool. It was it was cool. I
Speaker 1: had some friends that were actually disappointed, Like some of
Speaker 1: my film friends were not okay with it. They're just like,
Speaker 1: that's not um. My parents were really scared. I was excited.
Speaker 1: I was really excited. Was it a positive experience? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I think it was. Um. So it's what's interesting is
Speaker 1: you have to take a lot of tests, right, You
Speaker 1: have to take a lot of personality tests. You have
Speaker 1: to take a lot of like the intelligent tests that
Speaker 1: like it just a bunch of tests, and you have
Speaker 1: to sit down with a psychiatrist or therapist and they
Speaker 1: go over your answers and try to get what kind
Speaker 1: of person you are. And early on in the elimination process,
Speaker 1: one of the producers came in and kind of they
Speaker 1: were like thirty of us left and said, you know
Speaker 1: this is this is television. We need you guys to
Speaker 1: start talking about each other. You know that you guys
Speaker 1: are all being polite and everything and too afraid, don't
Speaker 1: want to say anything bad, but we need you guys
Speaker 1: to be more honest. We want people to watch, and
Speaker 1: and they were very honest about it, like, um, I
Speaker 1: went back to my hotel room and a panic attack,
Speaker 1: and I went and found the producer and they brought
Speaker 1: me in and I was like, look, I know, I
Speaker 1: know what you just said. I can't I don't think
Speaker 1: like that. I can't say those things because they're not
Speaker 1: in my head, Like I don't process information like that,
Speaker 1: and they don't process in like individual interactions like that.
Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I know, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to because we've talked about it with the doctors
Speaker 1: and you. That is clear and lines up with who
Speaker 1: you are, so you shouldn't feel pressure to do so.
Speaker 1: And I didn't, And in that way, I think I
Speaker 1: one got too. I had the fortune of avoiding maybe
Speaker 1: some strange editing moves or specific editing things, and and
Speaker 1: I knew my my role. I was the peace loving hip.
Speaker 1: I wore peace sign the entire time and that was
Speaker 1: kind of don't you wish that your nineteen year old
Speaker 1: self was recorded doing things for the world to see? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think the show gave you any extra confidence? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a performance level. No you know actually someone um,
Speaker 1: one of the judges, was like, you should be an actor,
Speaker 1: and I had ahead, I had, I had the best
Speaker 1: cover cover girl commercial. And then I was voted off
Speaker 1: later for not being able to speak Dutch. Not not
Speaker 1: that I've had like twenty years of bitterness almost but no,
Speaker 1: not at all, Um, And that was that was that
Speaker 1: was nice to hear kind of point in that direct?
Speaker 1: Did you want to be an actress? At that point?
Speaker 1: I did theater in high school and I loved performing
Speaker 1: because it was similar in a way to being behind
Speaker 1: the camera, at least when it came to not being
Speaker 1: able to interact, but being so I could live as
Speaker 1: someone else in a lot of a lot of my
Speaker 1: own internal turmoil would calm down and quiet while I
Speaker 1: was playing someone else. I played a sneezing tree, and Um,
Speaker 1: I played crow. I played one of the Indians in
Speaker 1: uh I say this Peter Pan the musical nowadays, I
Speaker 1: don't even know how that would fly in high school,
Speaker 1: but I you said, fly by the way in Peter Pan. Anyway,
Speaker 1: keep going? That was that was nice? Um, So clearly
Speaker 1: I mean I figured I'd have a great path in
Speaker 1: front of me. Um, how can you not with sneezing
Speaker 1: Tree number three. But in in college before Top Model,
Speaker 1: I actually did. I was in theater and that theater
Speaker 1: director loved my work like I did a model, like
Speaker 1: I read a monologue of a book to audition. I mean,
Speaker 1: we didn't really have a serious theater thing. It was
Speaker 1: a two year college, so it was very small and
Speaker 1: and he was really excited, and I was so baffled
Speaker 1: because I had never gotten a lead at school. I'd
Speaker 1: never gotten much of a speaking role. And I played
Speaker 1: Billy Bibbett in the theater program. We went to a
Speaker 1: theater called like a United States Theater competition, and then
Speaker 1: I came back and I got the lead of the
Speaker 1: of Picnic. And in the middle of that, about two
Speaker 1: weeks before we opened, that's when I got the call
Speaker 1: that I would be going to the show and I
Speaker 1: had I had to. I had to train someone else
Speaker 1: very quickly, and I think, thank God, she was amazing,
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize I've devastated I would be, and
Speaker 1: how much I loved it. So that was there, planted
Speaker 1: from right before Top Model, and an experience that I
Speaker 1: had not understood that I would love so much and
Speaker 1: feel welcomed to right when you left Top Model, were
Speaker 1: you on that path to try to begin auditioning and
Speaker 1: get roles. I know you had a fairly big break
Speaker 1: the role of hot Chick in The Green Hornet with
Speaker 1: Seth Rogan. Yes. Yeah, although although my character got a name,
Speaker 1: Oh what was the name, Anna Lee? It's but well honortly,
Speaker 1: but Michelle Condrey couldn't say yes, which was my previous name. Um,
Speaker 1: I never know how to say that, but it was
Speaker 1: because Michelle uh Gonere, the director couldn't pronounce my name
Speaker 1: on set, and he'd come up and go and uh
Speaker 1: and and and Seth was like, it's Onnoly And they
Speaker 1: thought that was funny. So in the movie they say
Speaker 1: my name, they say, or I say, you know, it's
Speaker 1: Anoly because Seth can't remember either, And they gave me
Speaker 1: a title. And I felt so much better because my
Speaker 1: family was not letting me live down. Hot Chick, Hot Chick, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I apologize, No, no, it's it's a good
Speaker 1: it turned out, really, I mean hot Chick. I can
Speaker 1: think now you can thank yes. Did you feel like
Speaker 1: that was was that your first break. So a break
Speaker 1: in terms of film. Yeah. After Top Model, Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do and I lost my scholarship,
Speaker 1: and I decided to put filmmaking on hold and see
Speaker 1: what would happen. And my cousin was down here, down
Speaker 1: in l who introduced me to an agent at Abrams
Speaker 1: Agency and they decided to take me on commercially, not
Speaker 1: theatrically at all. Um. Turns out I'm terrible at commercials.
Speaker 1: My face just moves a lot, and the way that
Speaker 1: I speak, I'm not a commercial individual. Turns out. Um.
Speaker 1: But there was a show about models on the c W,
Speaker 1: and because I had just gotten off the show, Abrams
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know you're a model, go ahead
Speaker 1: and close. Before this Big Bang, Theory was doing a
Speaker 1: episode where they broke into the Top Model house and
Speaker 1: so I had auditioned for that with other girls from
Speaker 1: Top Model and I got the speaking part um, and
Speaker 1: so taffed hearted into SAG, which allowed me to then
Speaker 1: audition for things. So I went up for this this
Speaker 1: modeling show and I tested and I didn't know what
Speaker 1: testing was, um. And it's a terrifying experience where you
Speaker 1: do your scenes and new audition live in front of
Speaker 1: a bunch of people wearing suits, um, with grave expressions
Speaker 1: on their face. Always it's terrifying. There's there's nobody, nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awful. It's awful. It is. But because of that
Speaker 1: I was they were like, oh, well you act here,
Speaker 1: we'll start sending you out on something. The first audition
Speaker 1: that I went out for after was per Stephanie um
Speaker 1: in uh Percy Jackson, and I wore I dressed up
Speaker 1: as Persephone and I wore like this long black dress
Speaker 1: and I had this makeup and everything, and I I
Speaker 1: couldn't remember my lines and I was so nervous that
Speaker 1: I started stuttering. And the casting woman was like, you
Speaker 1: can you can hold the paper and I was like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can't, No, I can't. And I got out of
Speaker 1: that audition and just hysterically crying. It was so bad
Speaker 1: and it was so bad. Um And so the Big
Speaker 1: Bang theory came out and I got hot Chick on
Speaker 1: Green Hornet. I think because I did some sort of
Speaker 1: improv at the end and it came really fast and
Speaker 1: it went really fast. And during that time I I
Speaker 1: was in acting class and they gave me a scene
Speaker 1: for crazy stupid love for Jessica. Yes, now I don't
Speaker 1: understand this story, so help me out here. Why do
Speaker 1: they have Why are they giving you scenes from something
Speaker 1: that hasn't been shot, like I'm used to like either
Speaker 1: a play or even a film that exists. Why are
Speaker 1: you getting the sides for this movie that isn't out yet?
Speaker 1: Can you explain this to I think I did. I
Speaker 1: think I had a man like a brand new manager
Speaker 1: at the time, not brand new. My first gave you side? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who was? And I needed something for class and I
Speaker 1: was like, is there anything I could work on? And
Speaker 1: they sent and I really loved it. And my my
Speaker 1: acting coach was like, you know, you shot audition for
Speaker 1: this and they called and they didn't want me to audition.
Speaker 1: They said I was too old. Um I was twenty um.
Speaker 1: And it was really hard to get an audition for it.
Speaker 1: But I had no pressure on me because I figured that,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a role that I really
Speaker 1: love doing, and I don't have to try to be
Speaker 1: what they're looking for since I'm not what they're looking for.
Speaker 1: In general, I wish I could apply that to everything
Speaker 1: I do. It's not always that easy to have that
Speaker 1: kind of freedom going into a role. But yeah, and
Speaker 1: so they eventually say yes and you go in and
Speaker 1: you you get the role of Jessica. Did you watch
Speaker 1: The Office at that time? I hadn't, but my my
Speaker 1: whole family had. Okay, so you don't know who's Steve
Speaker 1: carrells or you know, peripherally, I didn't know who Steve
Speaker 1: Carrell was or Julianne Moore or Ryan Gosling. I knew
Speaker 1: who Kevin Bacon was, and that was My family was
Speaker 1: just so excited that I was a few degrees from
Speaker 1: the two degrees from Kevin Bacon. I remember when we
Speaker 1: when my mom and I were googling these these these names,
Speaker 1: being like, oh yeah, okay, I recognized them. Looking back,
Speaker 1: it's just it's I can't believe that. Yeah, that was Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were stored. That is crazy that you didn't know
Speaker 1: any of those people. Did you think that took the
Speaker 1: pressure off you? Do you think you would have felt
Speaker 1: more pressure if you had known. I mean, at the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying this, this is not like The Office
Speaker 1: is the biggest show on television at this point, and
Speaker 1: he has after forty year old virgin become like essentially
Speaker 1: the biggest comedy star on the planet and and you
Speaker 1: just don't you just don't know. I mean, that's got
Speaker 1: to have helped you, right, I mean, I like, I
Speaker 1: had no idea who Seth Rogan was, but I loved
Speaker 1: Michelle Gondry's films, so like filmmakers, I could kind of
Speaker 1: you know, I was I was into and I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I think it it was really everyone around me being
Speaker 1: so anxious. That was the confusing factor. Honestly, at the
Speaker 1: beginning of my career. I think I was very confused
Speaker 1: as to what was happening most of the time, um,
Speaker 1: and it just kept happening um, and I I was
Speaker 1: just trying to take it all like it really wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's confusing. I didn't mean to be an actor,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say that lightly because I'm
Speaker 1: very happy to be one now. But it was never
Speaker 1: the plan. I was always going to be a filmmaker,
Speaker 1: the director, writer, and I think as I began getting roles,
Speaker 1: it took me like three films to finally on press
Speaker 1: junket be like, I guess, yeah, I'm an actor, because
Speaker 1: they'd say, like, your model turned actress was like one
Speaker 1: I was not a model. That did not happen. You
Speaker 1: can ask Ford about that for firing me instantly. And uh,
Speaker 1: and no, I'm not an actor like you are in
Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, I don't know how, but now I'm
Speaker 1: not an actor. That's fascinating you. You you once said
Speaker 1: that Steve taught you more about how to be on
Speaker 1: set than anybody you've ever worked with. What what do
Speaker 1: you what do you mean by the Thames down? I
Speaker 1: mean before that again, Like besides Big Bang Theory, which
Speaker 1: was a very studio, very different grade, Hornet was the
Speaker 1: only films that I'd ever been on student films, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what a mark was. On the way to rehearsal.
Speaker 1: I actually I remember asking a p A being like
Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do in rehearsal? And they
Speaker 1: looked at me and they were like, rehearse whatever that means.
Speaker 1: And getting on set with on Crazy Stupid Love, I
Speaker 1: learned everything. I mean one Steve would watch himself, so
Speaker 1: we would do some takes and we'd go back and
Speaker 1: I would watch our scenes, watch how he analyzed it,
Speaker 1: how he would tweak things. And I think my skill
Speaker 1: at that time, if you could call it, that was
Speaker 1: observing someone else and working off of that because I
Speaker 1: didn't have any ideas. Really, I again, I had no
Speaker 1: idea what was happening, but I could react, and you know,
Speaker 1: Steve was so giving and so kind I don't think,
Speaker 1: I mean, to this day, I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: the gold standard for my experience in general. Looking back.
Speaker 1: It was such an incredible set and group of people
Speaker 1: and so loving and warm that I really owe everything
Speaker 1: going forward to that experience. It was very much acting
Speaker 1: one on one. Well, I mean, as it said, as
Speaker 1: it sounds like you know by now, I mean, how
Speaker 1: incredibly lucky you were because and I say this with
Speaker 1: all respect to most of the people that I've worked
Speaker 1: with since it doesn't get any better than him. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't. In terms of as a person to work with,
Speaker 1: as a professional on set, someone who's generous and giving
Speaker 1: and always willing if you have something funny or better
Speaker 1: to step back and allow that to go for I mean,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't get any better. So, yeah, that's just
Speaker 1: an incredible gift you were. And because I had never
Speaker 1: i mean done comedy or or anything. Um, now I
Speaker 1: realize what what a gift. Some of that experience was
Speaker 1: learning for instance, to give and receive in comedy and
Speaker 1: be open and listen to the other actor, I think
Speaker 1: is something that is priceless to me, and I have
Speaker 1: had other jobs where that has not been the case.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that isn't the case for everyone. You know.
Speaker 1: It made it a little It made it challenging to
Speaker 1: sometimes be like, there's a better there's a better way
Speaker 1: to do this, there's a better way to interact. Like
Speaker 1: if you listen to what I'm saying. I heard you
Speaker 1: had you had a solo scene with Steve in a
Speaker 1: car and you were you were having a rough time
Speaker 1: right before that scene started shooting, and he told you
Speaker 1: a story or you guys started started talking about figure skating.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, figure skating in space camp um.
Speaker 1: And then I had a panic attack outside of the
Speaker 1: car and the directors took me back into the trailer
Speaker 1: and getting me a shot of whiskey. And because it
Speaker 1: was the first it was like the first big scene
Speaker 1: I was doing with Steve. I had never been on
Speaker 1: a ride before, and it was just it was so purpouse.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean, Steve was absolutely wonderful and
Speaker 1: kind and calming and Whiskey helped and we go through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you moved to New York City or you were in
Speaker 1: New York City a lot. You do a bunch of
Speaker 1: other projects at this point, Hbos, hung Warm Bodies, Manhattan,
Speaker 1: Love Story, Why Women Kill, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about and congratulate you on Vengeance, just out,
Speaker 1: very very very popular, excellent movie with my other coworker
Speaker 1: bj Novak. And now did you get an offer? Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you audition for? I did audition? Um? I did
Speaker 1: audition and I felt you know, you know when you
Speaker 1: go into an audition and you're like, Okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like this is gonna work out. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: And it did and uh and it was quite a whirlwind.
Speaker 1: It was around the pandemic I die, and it was
Speaker 1: held to film I will have I have one story there.
Speaker 1: We're filming out in the oil fields, uh, in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: And it was like it was really late and cold,
Speaker 1: and I was in a dress with nothing like it
Speaker 1: was like a sheet. It was like a thin dress.
Speaker 1: And I'm on the ground in these oil fields which
Speaker 1: are fit. There's no ground. It's birds and thorns, all
Speaker 1: it is is thorns and dry, itchy, painful stuff. And
Speaker 1: they put the gurney down, um and line up the
Speaker 1: shot and it would be fun because the gurney was there,
Speaker 1: but then they've removed the gurney and it would happen
Speaker 1: to be like on you know, hopefully. We tried to
Speaker 1: kind of make a path. But one of the last
Speaker 1: shots was a wide shot the camera. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: see the camera right. It was like mile away. And
Speaker 1: they put down the bourney and they brought up and
Speaker 1: I mean there, it's a tumbleweed. It is like a
Speaker 1: three ft high bush of pointy, pointy sharp things. And
Speaker 1: I sit there and I'm and I have to crawl
Speaker 1: on my I'm dying, so I'm crawling. Um, not really
Speaker 1: a spoiler. It's in the first like three minutes. I'm
Speaker 1: crawling on my on my belly and my hands and knees,
Speaker 1: and I'm having a drug overdose. I'm like spitalling and everything,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty bruised by this time. And BJ goes,
Speaker 1: what what what is it? Just right like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of thorns right here. And he pauses and he goes,
Speaker 1: there's thorns everywhere, like okay, my god, damn. And at
Speaker 1: the end, and I mean I never, I never. I
Speaker 1: think I might have told this to b J later,
Speaker 1: But I got back to the hotel and I was
Speaker 1: just bloody and I had an allergic reaction and I
Speaker 1: just cut and laced all over and I put it
Speaker 1: in a script that I was writing later, I put
Speaker 1: a very similar scene. Good make him play storms everywhere,
Speaker 1: storns everywhere and uh. And I worked with Jake Lacey.
Speaker 1: I know when when is our turn a friend of
Speaker 1: the family peacock. This is coming out eminently, yes here
Speaker 1: right October six, It's coming out like almost immediately after
Speaker 1: we finished talking. This is the true story of the
Speaker 1: Broburg family. You played the wife of Jake Lacy. How
Speaker 1: is Jake Um? Well, he plays a terrifying role in this,
Speaker 1: which is a pit of children and people alike. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I mean, he's just he's so nice.
Speaker 1: Jake is like one of the He's so nice and
Speaker 1: he's just he's She was so great to work with
Speaker 1: and so thoughtful. On set. I had a baby, which
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd have worked with before. Um, and
Speaker 1: I every time the baby would just start hysterically crying
Speaker 1: like it was not. It started to not be funny
Speaker 1: for me because the we had like twins one time
Speaker 1: and they put the baby in my arm and it
Speaker 1: would be fine. It would have been fine for like
Speaker 1: forty five minutes setting up everything. People were passing around
Speaker 1: the baby. The baby like barely touched my hands and
Speaker 1: would break out into hysterics, and they bring the other
Speaker 1: baby and the baby would be fine for about three
Speaker 1: minutes until it broke out into hysterics every single time.
Speaker 1: And Jake was just so kind during that and making
Speaker 1: short like I was okay and that you know I
Speaker 1: could act and whatnot. Um, now he's he's wonderful. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for him for this show because man, what
Speaker 1: a performance. I'm so excited to see it. Obviously I
Speaker 1: haven't yet it has it's not out, but this is
Speaker 1: also produced by the real life mother and daughter who
Speaker 1: who was kidnapped. Did you did you find yourself doing
Speaker 1: a lot of research to the original stories or talking
Speaker 1: to them about their experience going through it? How was that?
Speaker 1: I mean that was priceless. That was priceless to have
Speaker 1: them there, and I think that it wouldn't have the
Speaker 1: show would not have happened had we not had that
Speaker 1: support from them, truly, because you can't tell a story
Speaker 1: this harrowing and do it justice and not have the
Speaker 1: victims involved. And I'm sure you could, but we really
Speaker 1: thought it was important because she wants to tell her
Speaker 1: story jan Um, since this is a story of a
Speaker 1: predator and grooming. He didn't only groom the little girl
Speaker 1: and and her family, but also his own family, Gail
Speaker 1: and his children. Really and when you're doing something that deep.
Speaker 1: I know for Jake it was really important too, because
Speaker 1: jan got on and was like, look, I've I have healed,
Speaker 1: I have gone through this, I've come out the other side.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I want you to then feel free to
Speaker 1: take this where you need to take it and how
Speaker 1: it was. And I think the important thing is like
Speaker 1: how not only is the storage sponkers and it it's
Speaker 1: it just gets more and more bonker. She was abducted twice, Um,
Speaker 1: twice the same girl by the same person. And I
Speaker 1: think jan looks and was like, people look at my
Speaker 1: parents and say, how could that have happened? And she
Speaker 1: wants people to know that it very much is not
Speaker 1: her parents that this happens, that grooming happens right under
Speaker 1: your nose, and that children and adults are like are susceptible,
Speaker 1: and trying to get that out her, I'd out, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't want to. I'm not asking
Speaker 1: for any spoilers here. But you play the abductor played
Speaker 1: by Jake Lacy, you play his wife. Are you a
Speaker 1: victim or you a perpetrator? So that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: The real, the real Gail Um chose not to sign
Speaker 1: off on, you know, with her rights, didn't want to
Speaker 1: be involved. And I totally understand and respect that. Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see a photo of her. I listened
Speaker 1: to tape, and I got to read a lot of
Speaker 1: letters and obviously speak with Jane and kind of form
Speaker 1: the fictionalized version that I brought since I didn't have
Speaker 1: that first interaction. And the way that Gails comes across
Speaker 1: is especially on paper, is you just I can't imagine
Speaker 1: anyone not asking themselves how did she let this happen?
Speaker 1: How did she let her husband? How did she protect
Speaker 1: her husband when this was happening? She must have known
Speaker 1: and instead of looking at each scene and going okay,
Speaker 1: this is where she knew, this is where she was ignorant. Um.
Speaker 1: I tried to take that completely out of it and
Speaker 1: do it through one simplify it and go through one
Speaker 1: filter of I'm not a parent, yeah, but um, my
Speaker 1: mother is a is a fierce mother, mama, mama bear.
Speaker 1: And I thought about what she would do for her
Speaker 1: girls and for me, and realizing like the depths that
Speaker 1: I believe she would go to protect me, protect them.
Speaker 1: I use that as as like a template for Gail,
Speaker 1: and every decision, everything that she did to me was
Speaker 1: through love protecting her family because it's the seventies and
Speaker 1: there are in a Mormon community and there is no divorce,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't have a job, and she has four children,
Speaker 1: and something like this coming out would not only ruin
Speaker 1: her and her family. I mean, I think to Gail,
Speaker 1: there was no option, and I really wanted to take
Speaker 1: kind of that. I wanted that to play out at least,
Speaker 1: and people are going to make their own judgment either way.
Speaker 1: But for me, I it was what would I do
Speaker 1: to protect my family even though this horrific thing is happening. Um. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I don't think Gail wanted any of it to happen,
Speaker 1: and I think she was probably pretty traumatized by it
Speaker 1: as well. And things aren't black and white. Things are
Speaker 1: not black and white when when it comes to this stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm super super interested in it. I love Jake. I've
Speaker 1: seen all the trailers, and congratulations on that as well.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're just going through the office capt one
Speaker 1: by one, you're just picking everybody off. Eventually it will
Speaker 1: be my turn, and it will be my absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1: I find your story amazing and so unique and rare,
Speaker 1: and you to be such an interesting, special person. I
Speaker 1: wish you truly nothing but the best moving forward. Um,
Speaker 1: is there any other projects you have? I heard rumor
Speaker 1: of one. I don't know if we can discuss it
Speaker 1: or not. An adaptation of a podcast. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: actually hopefully going to be out. It's a very popular podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they're they're in the middle of trying
Speaker 1: to sell it. But that was that's with New Regency.
Speaker 1: I'm letting in my fiance, which I get married. Um
Speaker 1: the two days after the show comes out, Oh, congratulations, congratulations,
Speaker 1: thank you, that's that's awesome. A friend two days after
Speaker 1: a friend of the family premier. Yes, so you you've
Speaker 1: been on flights. I came I got in yesterday. I
Speaker 1: fly back to l A on Friday. Then on Sunday
Speaker 1: or Sunday night at midnight, I fly to Wisconsin and
Speaker 1: then back. So it's I I am going to feel
Speaker 1: you on the flights. Well, congratulations to you on your
Speaker 1: upcoming nuptials. Congratulations on the show. Do out later this week.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, and I'm so thankful that
Speaker 1: you took some time to talk to me. It truly
Speaker 1: has been my pleasure. Likewise, honestly, it's it's an honor.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Let's let's find something to work on together.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. I would love to do that. Leo.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Leo, thank you for stopping by
Speaker 1: the podcast. Uh such a pleasure getting to know you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see which of the office cast
Speaker 1: you work with next, hopefully it will be me And
Speaker 1: to everyone out there listening, I will see you again,
Speaker 1: same time, same place, next week. But until then, I
Speaker 1: hope you get out there and enjoy yourself. What a
Speaker 1: beautiful time of year is fall and a new episode
Speaker 1: will be falling next Tuesday. We'll see you soon. Off
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