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Speaker 2: welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast kind

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Speaker 2: of the Big Blue Kickoff Live edition. I am John Schmel,

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Speaker 2: joined by Lance Medal and Paul Datino. Frankly, we ran

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Speaker 2: guests like Dane Brugler and Charlie Campbell. All Right, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: we did one of these already. We've switched up the

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: We have a little bit more intel as we're a

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Speaker 2: little closer to the draft. This is, of course predictive

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Speaker 2: what we think teams will do, not necessarily what we

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Speaker 2: happens in the draft and what could be one of

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Speaker 2: the most unpredictable drafts in the last ten years. With

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Speaker 2: the first pick in the draft, it's Paul Datino, and

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Speaker 2: Paul assigned the Carolina Panthers, and this one should be

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Speaker 2: pretty easy for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, John, It was really easy until

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Speaker 1: the predominant opinion and the Vegas odds are saying that

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Speaker 2: See, I thought you were gonna say. You're on that

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Speaker 2: He is. I know you're a big Reddit fan, Paul.

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Speaker 2: You're on that thing all day long, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not surprised by that response, not at all all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Bryce Young never left to the Panthers. Lez, you're

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Speaker 2: number two for Houston. You know, it's rare that the

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Speaker 4: Well, because the Texans they have a new head coach,

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Speaker 3: And I think you're Demiko Ryans.

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Speaker 4: You want to come in to a new job, and

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Speaker 2: All right, CJ. Strad and number two to the Texans,

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Speaker 2: And I'll just say this, if they don't go quarterback here,

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm completely agree with you, John.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I just want to add in terms

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Speaker 2: Roster exactly one hundred percent of Green. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Will Anderson here to the Cardinals. Paul, you're up number

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty obvious the Colts gotta go for

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's my prejudice because it maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm giving them Will Levis.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving them Will Levis. I still don't see the

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that's where all the intel is here as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, Lance. Number five the Seattle Seahawks. And you

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Speaker 4: One thing I just wanted to add to Paul's comment

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Speaker 3: And the Colts have dealt with their fair share of

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Speaker 4: The last few years, so something tells me they want

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Speaker 2: think Devon Witherspoon will just remind Aaron Glenn quite frankly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, John, I was gonna take

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Speaker 1: whichever guy you left. I had no problems with that.

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Speaker 2: I think the Raiders. I feel really good about them

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Speaker 2: Paul your favorite football team the Philadelphia Eagles at number ten, time,

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Speaker 2: they know you're even better in the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, you did this to me on purpose.

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Speaker 2: John. I know somebody has to get him right.

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Speaker 2: It's Howie Roseman's and the general manager. The Eagles have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they've been They've been big in trenches

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Speaker 1: here that I knew. Bijon Robinson is worthy of this

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Speaker 1: In fact, if I'm not mistaken, didn't we have Robinson

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Speaker 1: So the question becomes, if I'm Philadelphia, am I drafting

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Speaker 2: Lance, have you ever heard of these phrase of throwing

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Speaker 2: So I just I think it's a good pick. Lance.

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Speaker 2: I would have went the same direction if I were you.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Paul, you're on the board here.

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Speaker 1: For the green I'm sorry, Lance, you mentioned the guy

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Speaker 4: I took Jackson Smith and Jigba at.

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Speaker 3: Dis distracted you, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, yes, well you know why because I was

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Speaker 3: Paul. It's called mind games, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So missions there very good job doing that, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is between Roderick Jones and UH and Paris Johnson

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Speaker 2: No thought on picking a receiver or a tight end there.

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Speaker 1: I gotta keep my quarterback standard. I'm not real happy

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Speaker 2: Lance, you're up for the Patriots at number fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're going to continue to solidify a

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Speaker 4: and grab Joey Porter junior cornerback out of Penn State.

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00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that or Deontay Banks would have been

437
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: the pick. There. I'm with you one hundred percent. Jets

438
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 2: at fifteen say ooh, we just made it. There's one

439
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 2: more left tackle left on the board that we could draft.

440
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna take Broderick Jones, left tackle out of Georgia.

441
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: I feel very certain that Jets are looking for an

442
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: offensive lineman here, so this is not surprise me the same.

443
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure the commander is coming up next

444
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: for you, Paul, are probably looking for a cornerback. But

445
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if you think the same.

446
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, actually, and it's gonna totally break my

447
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: heart when they take Deontay Banks. But that's what's gonna

448
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: happen in this draft. There's no doubt in my mind

449
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 1: that that's where he's going.

450
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree, And I think if Joey Porter Jr.

451
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: Was there, who would have been the pick. To be

452
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: honest with you, I've heard from a couple people that

453
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't surprise me that Porter Junior or someone that

454
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: Washington really likes. All Right, Lance, you're seventeen with the

455
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers and you just saw corners and offensive tackles

456
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: go will go off the board. Some two positions where

457
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers had.

458
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: Some needs, yes, specifically on the offensive line.

459
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 4: I was actually eyeing Harris Johnson Junior or Roderick Jones

460
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: in this spot, but obviously you guys spoiled that party.

461
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 4: The Steelers they need to protect their quarterback and Kenny Pickett.

462
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: But here I get to the point in the draft

463
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 4: where I feel like, if the Steelers go after an

464
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, I think you're picking at that position just

465
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 4: for the sake of pick at that position as opposed

466
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 4: to maybe maximizing the value.

467
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go to the defensive side.

468
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: Of the ball, and I really like Elijah Cansey, and

469
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 4: I think he's got Pittsburgh ritten all over him. I

470
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 4: just think he's the type of player where you could

471
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 4: put him inside and outside.

472
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: He does the dirty work.

473
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 4: You look at some of their veteran defensive linemen getting

474
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: up there in age.

475
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: I'm going with Kancy to the Steelers, Lan's.

476
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: Picking the undersize guy. I know we're all surprised.

477
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 4: Well, I understand the subtleties of that comment, but I'll

478
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 4: let that slide as we move along here in the

479
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 4: hot right.

480
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: Well, to take that went over my head. Oh how

481
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: about that one?

482
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: Honestly, I honestly did think it was all that subtle.

483
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: But okay, I'll take that the Lions at I have

484
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: the Lions. I think their first selection I got them

485
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: who they thought the best cornerback in the draft was

486
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: in Devon Witherspoon. You know, I think making a couple

487
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: of different spots here, guys, To be honest with you,

488
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: they have their corner. I think they can always look

489
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: to improve their defense. I do have a defensive player

490
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: that's kind of sticking out like a sore thumb on

491
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: my board right now that I think is probably the

492
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: best player left available. I also think they could use

493
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: a tight end, and Dan Campbell a former tight end

494
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: as their head coach, so I'm also looking at that

495
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: as a possibility here for the Detroit Lions. But my

496
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: feeling is that this player is gonna go a lot

497
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: earlier than people think. And I think he's a sore thumb.

498
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: He's a top ten player on my board, and I

499
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: just think he's too good of a player for the

500
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: Lions to pass up. And I think he personality wise

501
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: fits exactly how they're trying to build that program, much

502
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: like Witherspoon did. I'm gonna give the Lions Nolan Smith

503
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: linebacker out of Georgia. I was also considering the two

504
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: tight ends there. Those are kind of where I was

505
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: at with that pick.

506
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: All right, Buccaneers, Yeah, you just made Tampa breathe a

507
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: sire will leave here, John, I wasn't sure for some

508
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: reason if you were going to think about Branch. But

509
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 1: he's dropped this far. He's probably valued somewhere in this

510
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: vicinity anyway, And it just so happens that Tampa's got corners.

511
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: But I'm not so sold on their safeties. So I

512
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: think that Branch is a good fit for Tampa at nineteen.

513
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a good value pick there, Paul. I

514
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: think it is. And Branch is my next defensive player

515
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: on my board that I haven't I kind.

516
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: Of thought he might have been when you said that earlier.

517
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: Is I've wound up with twenty first round grades and

518
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: he is the last defensive player on my board with

519
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: a first round grade. All right, let's go over to

520
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Lance the Seattle Seahawks. You selected Tyree Wilson with your

521
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: first pick. Where are you looking here?

522
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 4: Well, I know we brought up quarterback in the conversation.

523
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 4: But you know, once again, I think Gino Smith had

524
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 4: a solid season. I think Gino can buy them a

525
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: little bit more time, and I think a lot of

526
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks have question marks. I don't think anybody's coming

527
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: in and it is going to be a star, especially

528
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: at this point immediately once we get to the draft.

529
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: So if I'm Pank Carol, I'm looking to give Gino

530
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: Smith more talent, and they have two really dynamic wide receivers,

531
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 4: Well why not add a third and continue to take

532
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 4: this offense to new heightser Gino Smith, I'm taking Zave Flowers,

533
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: the wide receiver out of Boston College.

534
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: You put him guys with DK Metcalf.

535
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: And Tyler Lockett, two guys that have dealt with their

536
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: fair share of bumps and bruises, and now you add

537
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: that third weapon in Zave Flowers. You're gonna tell me,

538
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: with Gino Smith's decision making, that can all of a

539
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 4: sudden put the Seahawks in a position to not just

540
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: make noise, but maybe even be a team that could

541
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: win that division. Given we don't know what's going on

542
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 4: with the San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback situation given

543
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 4: the injuries.

544
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: There, How tough was it picking between Flowers and Addison

545
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: for you?

546
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: Flowers, to me is the more explosive guy that can

547
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 4: take the top off the ball and can take a

548
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: five yard pass and turn it into a home run.

549
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: So I did consider Addison, and I think Addison may

550
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: be the more polished all around receiver. Big Flowers has

551
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: maybe a tad more upside because of his explosive playmaking ability.

552
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, I'm going to go now to

553
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers here, and I think they could

554
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: look they're an arms race. If you want to beat

555
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, who are in their division, you

556
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: gotta score points, and you have to score a lot

557
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: of points. And I don't think you know you could

558
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: stack your defense all you want. Patrick Mahomes is still

559
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: going to put up twenty seven points on you, So

560
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: you have to score. So I'm looking offense here for

561
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: the Chargers, and I'm thinking wide receiver. But the highest

562
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: ranked player on my board is at a position that

563
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: will help them offensively and it will help them in

564
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: the passing game. I'm going to give them Dalton Kincaid

565
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: tight end out of Utah as a dynamic threat in

566
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: the middle of the field with the size, his ability

567
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: to catch it and get up field. To me, this

568
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: is a fairly easy selection based on who was left.

569
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm giving them Dalton Kinkaid tight end out of Utah. Paul,

570
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: you're off for the Ravens at twenty two.

571
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you just said that Seattle was

572
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: looking at Flowers and Addison. Lance, I've got to get

573
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: a wide receiver here for Baltimore. They just signed Oldill

574
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior to try to enhance what is a very

575
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 1: weak wide receiver room. In my opinion, Bateman is you know,

576
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: somebody who we've talked about when he came out of

577
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: the draft, but he hasn't really given them everything they wanted.

578
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with I think they'll probably probably

579
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: go with Quinton Johnson Johnston. I think they want the

580
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: height here instead of Addison, so I'm gonna go Johnston

581
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: to the Ravens.

582
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: All right, Quentin Johnston to the Ravens. I've written down

583
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison, but you do me for a look there, okay.

584
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna want to add the

585
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: size component. You know, Bacon's got some size, but he

586
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: hasn't come through for them John.

587
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, because he has to be able to stay healthy, right.

588
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: And that's not good enough, is it? No?

589
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: I'm with you Lance twenty three Vikings. Remember Kirk Cousins

590
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: last year of his deal.

591
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

592
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: I'm going back and forth here because I went through

593
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 4: some of these different options in my simulation machine that

594
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: I had last night that I tried to get through

595
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: some calculations that maybe there is an opportunity to take

596
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: a quarterback here. But I think Paul had the Vikings

597
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: in our first mock draft. And listen, this is a

598
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: team that just played the Giants, and if I think

599
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 4: we saw anything, it was the Achilles heel, which was

600
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. So I mean they

601
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: need easily as much help on the defensive side of

602
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: the ball as saying, hey, they need their quarterback of

603
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: the future. The problem is the two of you took

604
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 4: a lot of the premier corners off the board at

605
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: this point. I just I don't know if value matches

606
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: up with need, So I'll go more leaning towards the

607
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: upside and I'll give the Vikings Hingden Hooker, even though

608
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: I still think they need some massive help on the

609
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball.

610
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Who would have been the corner you would have taken

611
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: to your lance Forbes?

612
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: Forbes was the guy that I was considering. And listen,

613
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if we see five six corners

614
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 4: go off the board in the first round. But I

615
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: do think we're at the point where maybe there's a

616
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: little bit of a drop off at the cornerback position.

617
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, We got the Jacksonville Jaguars here

618
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 2: at number twenty four, and you know, they have a

619
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: very good roster, so I think they really, you know,

620
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: a lot of freedom here to pick the guy they

621
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: think is the best player. And I'm looking at three

622
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: guys that kind of are sticking out on my board

623
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: right now, and I'll name them just because we're going

624
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: to go through this process. And I have two of

625
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: the next you know, three picks anyway. So I'm looking

626
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: at Michael Mayer tight end at a Notre Dame. Evan

627
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: ingram Is has a one year deal. You know, we

628
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: don't know if they're gonna go to sign him long term.

629
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Miles Murphy defensive end at Clemson to

630
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: help that pass rush along with Jonathan Allen, but they

631
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: just drafted Trayvon Walker, so I don't know if you

632
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: want to add another defensive end there. Then the other

633
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: guy that's interesting is down all right, Look, they need

634
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: to replace their right tackle, right He left and went

635
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs to be their left tackle Taylor,

636
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: So they do need a right tackle, and I think

637
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Donald Wright is darn close near to the one of

638
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: the better players on my board. I think you want

639
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: to protect Trevor Lawrence long term. I'm gonna go Darnall

640
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Wright because he could slide right in the right tackle

641
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: for them where they have a need, They're gonna take

642
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: Darnall right right tackle Tennessee. But Mayor was definitely the

643
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: other guy that I was considering there, but I went

644
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: right instead, even though Mayor is a higher grade on

645
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: my board. All right, Lance twenty five for the Giants,

646
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: let's kind of don't make the pick yet. Give me

647
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: your thoughts, and then Paul and I we can kind

648
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: of go back and forth and have a debate here.

649
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: You're up plance, Well, my thoughts are.

650
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: I think there's two positions that the Giants could go after.

651
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: Number one is wide receiver and number two is edge

652
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: rusher or defensive lineman who has versatility to the inside outside.

653
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: Those are the two positions that I'm eyeing here based

654
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: on my board and based on also need for the Giants.

655
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 4: So I do think they have some options, and that's

656
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: where my thought process is right now.

657
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you kind of hit it. I'll you know,

658
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: I know they don't have a need a tight end,

659
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: but I think Michael Mayer would be one of the

660
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: better greatered players in their board. I think Jordan Addison's

661
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: the wide receiver. And I think you're talking about Lucas

662
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: van Ness, right, and I think, you know, he's a

663
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: guy that I think would fit wings defense better than

664
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. So I know I talked about Murphy for

665
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. You know they run a four to three scheme.

666
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: I think van Ness would be the better fit and

667
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: one that would be more attractive for the Giants. They're

668
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: literally right next to each other on my board, so

669
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: that's kind of a fit thing that would kind of

670
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: flip one over the other in terms of those two players,

671
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 2: I have Addison and Mayer higher on my board than

672
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: van s. I know a lot of other people really

673
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: like vans is like a top fifteen guy. I don't,

674
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: but you know, that would be consideration here, not for

675
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: me personally, and for me, I think my needed wide

676
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: receiver is higher. Mayor is five spots, Mayors my sixteenth player,

677
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Addison's my twenty first, so I you know, but they're

678
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: not far off. I would pick Addison here, I think

679
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: if I had this pick.

680
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's probably what I would do. Lance. To

681
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'd give Miles Murphy heavy consideration myself.

682
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm not really that much attracted

683
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: to anybody else. And I'm not saying that there aren't

684
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: guys worth the value at this pick right now, because

685
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: I do think there are some guys worth the value,

686
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not just I'm not really liking to fit

687
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: too much. So I'm gonna go with Addison here if

688
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I were making you making your pick.

689
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Addison.

690
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: Those are the two guys that I had at this

691
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: point in the draft that I thought eight could be available,

692
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: and I think would fill the void more of the giants,

693
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: depending on which.

694
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 3: Direction they want to go.

695
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: You know, the criticism for Addison is and I'm surprised,

696
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: Paully you to mention this is the lack of size maybe,

697
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: which I know we've been talking about all off season,

698
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: that maybe they go after.

699
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: A taller guy.

700
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: It's almost his weight. That's a bigger problem than a state.

701
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: Right.

702
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: He was only one sexon but.

703
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: Weight a little down for me. If I got him

704
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: in here, I'd want to put ten pounds.

705
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: On them, and that makes sense. But I'm more of

706
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: the thought process. I think Brian Dable and Mike Kafka

707
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 4: it's playmakers. It's not versatility and size, meaning, if you're right,

708
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna find a way to get him open, scheme accordingly,

709
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: and get him involved in the offense. So I'm gonna

710
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: go Addison over van Ness. I think you can easily

711
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: make an argument for both. I like personally van Ness

712
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: because I like guys that have the potential to go

713
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: inside outside. I think he showed the sack production in

714
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: his last two years, but let's face it, they need

715
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: to add more offensive weaponry.

716
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: And what didn't I talk about all off.

717
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: Season Sterling Chef with his injuries Wan del Robinson, It's

718
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: not like there wouldn't be room for Addison to get

719
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 4: on the field and flourish.

720
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: Even though there may be a duplication in terms of size.

721
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: So Jordan Addison, the wide receiver out of USC to

722
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: the Giants at twenty five.

723
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll just add this too. I think what

724
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: the Giants need is a versatile route runner that can

725
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: win on all three levels of the field. And I

726
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: think Jordan Addison showed in Pittsburgh and in USC that

727
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: he can do that. He's probably the best nuanced route

728
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: runner in the draft. I think he'll give Daniel Jones

729
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: someone that can get open consistently, which is exactly what

730
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: this coaching staff is looking for. So I'm with you.

731
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: I think Addison is the fairly easy selection. I think

732
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: the Giants would be very happy if they had a

733
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: chance to pick him at number twenty five. Paul, anything else, Dad, No.

734
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you guys know me. I would

735
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: absolutely like to have a little more beef on his bones.

736
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: I think he can add some strength to it. Other

737
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: than that, everything else that he does he does at

738
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: an extremely high level, especially his route running, and he's

739
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: played in a big market at USC. God knows, so.

740
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Ill both you guys this question. If Quinn Johnston was

741
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: on the board, which one who would you pick? Johnston

742
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: or Addison.

743
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: I would take Addison because once again, I'm not getting

744
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: too caught up in the size, and I think Addison

745
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: may be the most polished route runner in this year's

746
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: draft class when you're looking at the wide receivers, and

747
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: I think the coaching staff can do more with that

748
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: than perhaps the upside with Johnston's size hull.

749
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree with that, despite the fact that

750
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I usually like the larger frames Spider Man and skyscrapers.

751
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: Johnston does have a little bit of a problem with

752
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: some drop seats. Addison's got great fly paper hands, and

753
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: if there's one thing that will really drive a coach crazy,

754
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some drop seats. So Johnston's got to

755
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: clean that up. He's also, to be honest with you,

756
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: john for his size, he's easy for guys to press

757
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: company forge against. He doesn't get off press coverage quite

758
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: as well as I would like. He's got a little

759
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: bit of work to do that. Don't get me wrong.

760
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: If Johnston was there and the Giants wound up with him,

761
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: I'd still be very happy. But if you're gonna make

762
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: my selection here between him and Addison, I still think

763
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: Addison is my favorite receiver. In the draft.

764
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Addison is a better player. Now, I

765
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: think Johnston, if you look at the ceiling, is probably

766
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: higher if he get again solve the drop problem, Paul,

767
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: to your point, become more nuanced than his releases to

768
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: get off press and have a larger route train. You know.

769
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna need a little polish. He's gonna need

770
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: some work, right, he needs some polish.

771
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: But I think if you do, like, if the Giants

772
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: are in this situation they pick Johnson over Addison, I think,

773
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: all right, Well, they trust that Mike grow who's done

774
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: a great job with the receivers last year, right, can

775
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: get his hands on Madison on Johnson rather mold him

776
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: and turn him into that star given all of its traits.

777
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: So I think it's a no lose either way. If

778
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the Giants get either one of those guys. I think

779
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: over the course of time, they'll be thrilled with either one.

780
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: I agree. I do a Flower rated as the at

781
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: least the way I look at it, I have him

782
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: Raid is the better player, but I have them both

783
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: in the same tier of wide receivers, you know what

784
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean, So there's not that much distance between them,

785
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: per se. All right, So this made it really easy

786
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: on me. For the Cowboys, I know they always like

787
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: to add pass rushers. De Marcus Lawrence is getting older,

788
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: you know. Miles Murphy I think would be a really

789
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: good fit for them, but they just lost Dalton Schultz

790
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: in the offseason. My comp this year for Michael Mayer

791
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: has been Jason Witten, so I woulded the Cowboys want

792
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: the next Jason Witton. So I'm gonna give them Michael

793
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: Mayer here at twenty six, and then I'm picking again

794
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: at twenty seven with the Buffalo Bills. You guys have

795
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: any thoughts on Mayor before I head over to Buffalo.

796
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Mayor is definitely higher than a top twenty six player

797
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: pure talent on this on this draft board. Yep, there's

798
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. He's better than the twenty

799
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: sixth most talented player, and if Dallas gets him, I

800
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: will probably become very nauseous because I don't need to

801
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: see a Cowboys tight end shred the Giants for the

802
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: next ten years.

803
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: It makes sense because once again they lost Dilton Schultz.

804
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: I think it fills in need and I think Michael

805
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: Mayer is We were talking about Jordan Adison being a

806
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: polished wide receiver. Michael Mayor is a cholish tight end.

807
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 4: And if you're Mike McCarthy, I think you want somebody

808
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: to come in that is not a liability in one

809
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 4: of the facets in which to keep him on the field,

810
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: such as blocking and.

811
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, yeah, what about when he blocks

812
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: on the edge for Tony Pollard. If Pollard does wind

813
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: up coming back to full strength with his kind of

814
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: quicks and speed and angles and the way he can juke,

815
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: you get Mayor helping out off that edge. That's really

816
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: going to help their run game. Never mind all the

817
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: passes he catches.

818
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: All right, you guys just bought me some time. I

819
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: appreciate that because I didn't. I did not know what

820
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: to do with it.

821
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: Was why he asked the question, Paul. You see, he

822
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: asked us for our feedback on.

823
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: They was perusing his screen and thinking about what I think.

824
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: He knew, and he knew that my disgust would last

825
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: at least fifty seconds.

826
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, So there you go. He took the bait

827
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: and ran with it.

828
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Checked it checked all the boxers for me. It was

829
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: perfect him.

830
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I get it, all right.

831
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: So the Bills here. I'm still on my you know,

832
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: same theory that I had when I selected Dalton kin

833
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Kaid for the Chargers.

834
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: Right.

835
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Who are the Bills competing with? Yeah, Aaron Rodgers and

836
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: the Jets. Yeah, they're competing with you know, the Patriots

837
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins. But in the end, in the playoffs,

838
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: they're going to have to beat the Kansas City Chiefs

839
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to score points to do And

840
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: what happened last year The Bills did not score enough

841
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: points in the playoffs when they got there. So you

842
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: want to give Josh Allen a weapon year, Here's the problem.

843
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: All my top wide receivers are gone. I really like

844
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: Josh Downs personally, and the Bills do actually have a

845
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: need I think for a slot wide receiver, and it

846
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: would fit nicely next to Gabriel Davis and Stefan Diggs.

847
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: But I think it's a little rich Josh Downs here.

848
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Could they use a deep threat in Jalen Hyatt with

849
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: some speed? Yes, I don't think he's the best player

850
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: available here. I think the best player is a defensive player.

851
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: But I don't want to do that. Do I consider

852
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: a tight end for them? You know, Sam Laporter and

853
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave. They're both, you know, dynamic players, but they

854
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: just kind of paid Dawson Knox, so I don't think

855
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna go there. So here's what I'm gonna do.

856
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them Jamier Gibbs, running back out of

857
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: Alabama because he's an excellent receiver, so this is not

858
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: for him running the ball. I think they're gonna use

859
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: Gibbs a lot as a slot along with the running

860
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: back to take some of the pressure off of Josh Allen.

861
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: That's something that their head coach McDermott talked about this offseason.

862
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Try to take a little bit off of him as

863
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: a runner. So I'm gonna give them Jamior Gibbs as

864
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: a receiver and a running back, to quote Lance, an

865
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: offensive weapon to kind of help them compete with the

866
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs.

867
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: So that's two running backs going in the first round,

868
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: and by that would surprise a lot of people.

869
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have heard that there are some teams

870
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: out there that like Gibbs almost as much as they

871
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: like Bijon, So we'll see, hmm. And he certainly has

872
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: the speed. Paul, You're up with the Bengals here, at

873
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight.

874
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I'm gonna give Joe Burrow a birthday present.

875
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: And I have absolutely no idea when his birthday is,

876
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give him one. Anyway. We're gonna wrap

877
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: up darn L Washington for him six foot six tight end.

878
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot of wrapping.

879
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Every Paul, every it sure is. Every quarterback loves a

880
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: tight end who has size and length. He is the biggest, longest,

881
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: bolkiest framed tight end in this draft. And he is

882
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy who's gonna really help out Joe

883
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: Burrow and short medium range passes.

884
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: Roose birthdays in December, Paul, by the way, in case

885
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: you were very much interested, So.

886
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: You know what, He's gonna have to unwrap this guy

887
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: a little bit early.

888
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: The holiday season is coming up earlier in the calendar.

889
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, Lance, you're up for the

890
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Saints here at twenty nine.

891
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: Remember the Bengals did bring in Orlando Brown Junior this

892
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: offseason from the Kansas City Chiefs to help Joe Burrow

893
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: and protect him specifically at the tackle position with the Saints.

894
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: I referenced this earlier. Atlanta took a lot of their

895
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: defensive weaponry. And you know, New Orleans has come a

896
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: long way since Drew Brees had to go offensive clinic

897
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 4: after offensive clinic. And I'm gonna go with the other

898
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 4: player that I thought the Giants would heavily consider at

899
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 4: twenty five. I like Lucas van Ness for the Saints.

900
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: His ability to play inside out fits I think very

901
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: well with the New Orleans scheme They've got Cam Jordan.

902
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: I think he'd be a great complimentary piece right there.

903
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: And Paul, I can't believe this guy dropped to the Eagles.

904
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: Just just pick them and give him another pass rusher,

905
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: be done with it. Yeah, Miles Murphy's it's unbelievable. It

906
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: always works out for Philadelphia and these drafts. It's crazy.

907
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: That's sick, isn't it. It's absolutely sick. I suppose if

908
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: they wanted to, they could. They could probably think about

909
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Will McDonald too, but I would I think Murphy is

910
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: going to be the pick there.

911
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they already have an under sky guy in Reddick, right,

912
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: so I think McDonald kind of, you know, is similar

913
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: to him right size wise.

914
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: I would I would choose Murphy for that reason.

915
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, all right, Final pick Chiefs what do

916
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: they want a wide receiver speed? Jalen Hyatt wide receiver Tennessee.

917
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

918
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: They want someone that can go over the top to

919
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: help support Travis Kelcey in the middle of the field,

920
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: support Valde Scantling, who's also a speed guy. But the

921
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: Chiefs like speed. They have two guys that can work

922
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: underneath in Kadarius Tony and Sky Moore, but they want

923
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: a guy that can win consistently outside over the top.

924
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give them Jalen Hyatt wide receiver out

925
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: of Tennessee. Though I did consider a pass rusher here,

926
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: like well McDonald spags does need another guy up front,

927
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: but I do think offense wins out there, so I'm

928
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: gonna give them Jalen Hyatt. All right, that's our draft, folks.

929
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run down the names very quickly for you,

930
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and then we'll talk about who's left and how everything

931
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: worked out for the Giants, etc. Etc. Right here we go,

932
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Bryce Young Panthers, Texans c J. Stroud Cardinals, Will Anderson,

933
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts quarterback Will Levis, Seahawks defensive end Tyree Wilson,

934
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: Lions cornerback Devon Witherspoon, Raiders cornerback Christian Gonzales, Falcons Georgia

935
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: defensive tackle Jalen Carter, Bears offensive lineman Peter Scarnsky ten,

936
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles running back Bjehn Robinson eleven, Tennessee quarterback Anthony

937
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: Richardson twelve, the Texans wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigba thirteen,

938
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: The Packers offensive tackle Paris Johnson fourteen, the Patriots cornerback

939
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Jr. Fifteen, the Jets offensive tackle Roderick Jones.

940
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders at sixteen, cornerback Deontay Banks, Steelers at seventeen,

941
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: defensive tackle Calijah Cansey, Lions at eighteen. Linebackers slast edge

942
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: rusher Nolan Smith nineteen, Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety Brian Branch twenty,

943
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks wide receivers eight Flowers twenty one, Los Angeles

944
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: Chargers tight end Dalton Kincaid twenty two, Baltimore Ravens wide

945
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: receiver Quenton Johnston twenty three, The Vikings quarterback Kendon Hooker

946
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: twenty four, Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Darnell Wright Giants at

947
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: twenty five, USC wide receiver Jordan Addison Dak Cowboys twenty six,

948
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: tight end Michael Mayer Buffalo bill Is at twenty seven,

949
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: running back Jimior Gibbs Cincinnati Bengals, twenty eight, tight end

950
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: Darnell Washington Saints, twenty nine, pass rusher Lucas van S

951
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: thirty Philadelphia Eagles defensive end Files Murphy, and then the

952
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs run out the first round with wide receiver Jalen Hyatt.

953
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: All right, for both of you guys, who are the

954
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: best players left on your board here at the start

955
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: of round two? Paul, why don't you start?

956
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think Will McDonald is probably the best most

957
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: obvious first round snub for me here, given the fact

958
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: that edge rushers are always thought of as such a

959
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: high profile pick. I'm not sure that he is one

960
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: of the top thirty one players in the draft necessarily.

961
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: I think he's probably close to it, But the bottom

962
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: line is he did not make it in the first

963
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: round in our mac, so I think he's the one

964
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: that would be sticking out for me.

965
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: He is also my highest rated player left on the board, Paul.

966
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: My second highest rated player would be Emmanuel Forbes. The

967
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: cornerback would be my second guy, and then I have

968
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: my two tight ends. Sam Laporter and Luke Musgrafo I

969
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: kind of have really back to back. Those would be

970
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: the highest graded players I have left Lance, how about you.

971
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: But Drew sand linebacker out of Arkansas, I think is

972
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 4: another name worthy of throwing out. Bj ogalari As he's's brother.

973
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: Maybe borderline first second round, I would consider him.

974
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: I had rusher out of LSU and right.

975
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: Behind Forbes, Keeley Ringo, the cornerback out of George is

976
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: another one. You know, once again we're getting on the

977
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: fringe of the first in the second round. And one

978
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: other guy that I'll throw out that you know, maybe

979
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: could sneak into the first round is Osirius Torrance, offensive

980
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: lineman out of Florida. I mean that is a big man,

981
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: and that is a man that I think would be

982
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: very attractive for any team that needs offensive line help.

983
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: So those are a few names that I think are

984
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: at least in the conversation.

985
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, another name I've been healing that could sneak into

986
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: the first round here, guys, is Steve Avila. You know

987
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: he has the guard center flex. He started a ton

988
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: of games. He's big. That's another guy I heard Paul

989
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: that that could sneak into that back end of that

990
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: first round when all said and done, just because he's

991
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: a stel player.

992
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: If Murphy had not dropped to the Eagles, I'll be

993
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm not so sure they might. They

994
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: might have taken a dive at either Tipman or Michael

995
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: Schmidtz at that at that spot, all the way down

996
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: at number thirty. I'm not so sure. I'm thinking to myself,

997
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, if Murphy was not sticking out like a

998
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: sore thumb, I was seriously considering one of the centers

999
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: for them. It really was.

1000
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1001
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: And and and to be honest, uh, Michael Schmitz is

1002
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: more like Kelsey than Tipman.

1003
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: It's I and I throw Brian Brez in there too,

1004
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: another guy Paul that had was not taken that could

1005
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: have been.

1006
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: So anyway that that that would be the other thought

1007
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: that I would have thrown into to the first round there.

1008
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily saying that I know one of

1009
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: those centers, but belongs they're totally on value. But again,

1010
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: we've talked about the Eagles. They love the trenches. That

1011
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: offensive line has been a staple of why they have dominated,

1012
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, the last few years. Uh, yeah, I think

1013
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: Michael schmids or Tipman might have might have been a

1014
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: consideration there.

1015
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Remember they also drafted Cam Jurgens last year to play

1016
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: center too, So I'm not sure. Do you think they

1017
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: would double up there?

1018
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: I I would not shock me, would not shock me.

1019
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they can always draft o Cyrus Torrens

1020
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: and just plug him in for Saamalo too, right lands, Yeah,

1021
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: I was going.

1022
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: To get in that direction. I was also going to

1023
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: bring up Jurgons.

1024
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not so sure that they would

1025
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: go for the conventional center, but I could see Paul

1026
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: at some point in the draft then absolutely targeting center.

1027
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: Because remember I look at friends Howie Roseman. He's taken

1028
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, but he hasn't taken a center during his

1029
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: lengthy tens.

1030
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: That's the argument for Tipman because Tipman has some guard versatility,

1031
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Michael Schmidz does not.

1032
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: And they like their interchangeable offensive lineman because they're not

1033
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: thinking about this year. They're thinking about, well, maybe a

1034
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: hole will open up a year from now that we

1035
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: could plug that individual in, such as the Jurgons for example.

1036
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Just looking at how this win, guys, I think Paris

1037
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: Johnson will probably go higher than he did at thirteen.

1038
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: My guess is that he's not going to get out

1039
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: of the top ten. That's the only thing I think

1040
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: was really unrealistic. I think, you know, we actually got

1041
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: pretty good landing spots for most of these guys that

1042
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: any Maybe Mayer dropped a little bit further than I

1043
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: thought he would, but it's a tight end, so I

1044
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: guess maybe that shouldn't be too big of a surprise.

1045
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: Were there any other big surprises for you guys as

1046
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: we went through this exercise?

1047
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: Big surprise?

1048
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Usually there's one or two big sore thumbs, but I

1049
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: don't see one in this one, to be honest with you, Yeah.

1050
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I you know, John, I think both last week and

1051
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: this week ar mock drafts. Probably this is the smoothest

1052
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: year I think that we've ever had collectively as a

1053
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: group and picking the first round. Usually there are a

1054
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: few that I think we all want to question each

1055
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: other on. We always used to rag on Fiegels for

1056
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: a few of his picks, you know. But but I

1057
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I honestly these two drafts that we just completed have

1058
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: a lot of logic behind.

1059
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see any surprises at all.

1060
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: I think it's just a matter of one of the

1061
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: guys that we selected, does he winind up going higher

1062
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: than perhaps we had him? And you know, one of

1063
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: the other examples could be b Jon Robinson, who I

1064
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 4: think is really the wild card to this draft because

1065
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: as much upside guys as he has. It's the old question,

1066
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: the old situation that every team faces about whether or

1067
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: not you should take a running back regardless of whether

1068
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: or not you think they're a weapon. And does he

1069
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: go higher because the team says he's an absolute weapon,

1070
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: will take full advantage of his skill set, or they

1071
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: say I'm staying away from running back, and then Robinson

1072
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: winds up dropping and then that's going to open the

1073
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: door for somebody else to slide in.

1074
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: That, to me is the million dollar question.

1075
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: I think it's Robinson maybe more so than any other

1076
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: player right now.

1077
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: And the way this draft Carojuan, as I look at

1078
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: a little we kind of pushed edge rushers down a

1079
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: little bit right after Wilson and Anderson went. The next

1080
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: edge rusher didn't go off the board until Nolan Smith

1081
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: at eighteen, and he's almost more of a linebacker than

1082
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: an edge rusher. Then we didn't have the next guy

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Speaker 2: after that go off until Lucas van Ness at twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: so I think van ness and Murphy, one of those

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Speaker 2: two will probably go inside the top twenty. You know.

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Speaker 2: Van Nessa has been mentioned by the you know with

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Speaker 2: the Eagles at ten, so I think that's kind of

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Speaker 2: a ceiling for him, and that would not completely blow

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Speaker 2: me away. I think that's probably the ceiling also for

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Speaker 2: Nolan Smith ten. So I think we mean we weren't

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Speaker 2: quite as high on the edge rushers as maybe, you know.

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Speaker 2: We might see them go off the board on draft night,

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Speaker 2: you know, John.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would like to add is that

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that upstairs Joe Shane does not have all

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Speaker 1: these papers to go through or magnets to go through,

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Speaker 1: and now he has a digital draft board that he

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Speaker 1: could just pop buttons up on the screen and get

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Speaker 1: everything that he wants.

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Speaker 2: I would you aboard, Paul, but I don't think you'd

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Speaker 2: be able to figure out how to use it.

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Speaker 1: Good point, John.

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Speaker 4: Those core IT guys that would have to sit next

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Speaker 4: to Paul throughout the entire draft so that he know

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Speaker 4: which buttons to press. See. Something tells me Shane he

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Speaker 4: already got a tutorial over the last few weeks, so

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Speaker 4: I don't think somebody's gonna hold his hand.

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Speaker 3: But if Paul was in.

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Speaker 4: That position, they'd have to have at least three guys

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Speaker 4: because remember, you have to account for bathroom breaks and

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Speaker 4: you can't have somebody run out when the Giants are

1112
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Speaker 4: on the clock or they're trying.

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Speaker 3: To move up.

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Speaker 4: So you'd have to have at least three interchangeable individuals

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Speaker 4: from the IT department holding Paul's hand.

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Speaker 2: Just a reminder, folks, make sure you go check out

1117
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: all our covers of the draft. I mentioned it already.

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Speaker 2: Giants Little Podcast, go check out our previous episodes. We

1119
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: have some great scouts on David Severersen from our lads.

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00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: We have our offensive line episodes that up. That's up

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: with Sean o'haron, Brandon Thorne. We dip into the deep

1122
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: into the interior offensive line prospects. TJ McCrate from last

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Speaker 2: year from the thirty thirteen, former player personnel executive in

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Speaker 2: the league for more than twenty years, most recently with

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. We do have a great conversation with him

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Speaker 2: about undersized wide receivers. He was with the Eagles when

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: they drafted DeVonta Smith. Great conversation there and keep going back.

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Speaker 2: Draft Season has a couple episodes. This week Tony, Pauline

1129
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 2: and I we answer the big questions about the draft

1130
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Speaker 2: that's up there now and then going up might be

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00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: up there when you listen to this, or it will

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Speaker 2: be up shortly. Tony and I will have our final

1133
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Speaker 2: mock draft. Tony makes the picks. I'm going to kind

1134
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Speaker 2: of be as college scouting director and we're going to

1135
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: kind of work together to try to figure out what

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Speaker 2: all thirty one teams are going to do. So make

1137
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: sure you go check that out, and of course Big

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00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: Blue Kickoff Live as well. You can find all of

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Speaker 2: our podcasts in The Giants, Small Black but Giants dot com,

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Speaker 2: slash podcast, or just search for any one of our podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and does us an awful lot of good for paul

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Speaker 2: the Tina and Ja and Lance Meadow. I am John Schmel.

1147
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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us throughout all our draft coverage.

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Speaker 2: We are live Thursday night, Friday night, and then at

1149
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Speaker 2: some point on Saturday as well, as we talk about

1150
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: what the Giants do in the NFL Draft after they

1151
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: make their selection, make sure you tune in. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you the