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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a show today. There could be some

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Speaker 2: trades during the show. There's going to be many trades

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Speaker 2: over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'd like you. I'd like a trade right now.

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Speaker 2: I would love a trade.

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Speaker 1: Can I just finalize it?

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Speaker 2: You have one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I need twelve fungos for that guy right there, so

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Speaker 3: you are officially off the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting twelve fungos. I'll see a later dog.

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Speaker 2: If those fungos could talk. It didn't go through never

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Speaker 2: mind rejected, But.

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Speaker 4: I got a fungo for you. Todd.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. This guy's sharp.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's gonna be one of those days.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let me start you off with the question of the day.

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Speaker 2: We're doing this more frequently here. It's posted on the

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Speaker 2: socials on the Foul Territory accounts on x ig the

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Speaker 2: whole deal, name a player you hope gets traded to

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Speaker 2: your team. We plucked a few answers from Twitter. You

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Speaker 2: can send us answers on ig when we do these

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Speaker 2: two and we'll take them next week. But for this

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Speaker 2: particular question, a Marlins fan said they'd love eraldis chapman

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Speaker 2: or esac paratus, but don't think that's gonna happen. That

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Speaker 2: is correct. The Red Sox are not going to trade Chapman.

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Speaker 2: The Astros are not going to trade Paradist in my mind.

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Speaker 3: But also I think Chapman wouldn't be that upset if

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Speaker 3: he went to Miami.

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Speaker 1: He would love He would love that. He would that.

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Speaker 1: But that's the only that's the only.

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Speaker 3: So if you you're saying, not gonna I give it

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Speaker 3: four percent just because of the Miami, if.

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Speaker 2: They asked him, he would say yes in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 2: He'd probably even gives some money back. He screams, Miami.

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Speaker 2: He's he lives there. That's that's his spot. Yes, who's there?

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Speaker 4: His yacht is there?

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Speaker 1: So he.

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Speaker 2: That would help the cause. Yeah, Hunter Goodman, send my

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Speaker 2: boy to Fenway, says a Red Sox fan RJ. It'll

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Speaker 2: cost a lot if you do, because of the years

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Speaker 2: of control he has and how good he's been, But

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Speaker 2: that would be nice. Yeah, that's what changed my mind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would easily change my mind about the Red Sox.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Interesting big offensive boost starting pitcher who goes

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Speaker 2: behind beyond five innings from Greg the the Braves fan

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Speaker 2: like a starting pitcher beyond five. Wow, can we do it?

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Speaker 2: I found one and his name's Chris Sale. Oh he's

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Speaker 2: on your team.

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Speaker 1: Team interesting.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, a Yankees fan Tim wants Liam Hicks. I mean

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Speaker 2: the Yanks are looking for a catcher, right, Yeah. We

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Speaker 2: hear them tied to Ryan Jeffers, but we hear three

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Speaker 2: or four teams tied to Ryan Jeffers, and I think

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Speaker 2: it was likely he was going to get dealt. We're

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Speaker 2: I guarantee and Liam Hicks would definitely help the offense

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt, without a doubt, I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 4: For the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I like Jonah William Hicks rates a little bit higher

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Speaker 3: I'm more about the I I love the receiving.

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Speaker 1: There you go, I test okay.

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Speaker 2: Before we start, I want to highlight one of our

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Speaker 2: shows on the FT Network for some of the guests

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Speaker 2: they put together this week. So they had Dylan Biavers on,

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Speaker 2: who's current Big leaguer but also the former Big Bopper

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Actually, I like that. Chris Davis was just

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Speaker 2: on the show and then he is being honored tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at the ballpark. It's Chris Davis Day d He hit

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Speaker 2: nukes Man. Good for him, so he's on that show.

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Speaker 2: That show is very close to the one thousand subscriber

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Speaker 2: range on YouTube. We would love if you give them

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Speaker 2: The live crew right now that's watching, please give it

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Speaker 2: a little click. Thank you very much, and now we

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Speaker 2: can begin our journey. The fire sale has begun. The

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Speaker 2: New York Mets trade away AJ Minter and he is

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Speaker 2: three point three million dollars remaining on this deal. They

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Speaker 2: That's cool, but when you do take on all of

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen, I the prospects are suspects to me.

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Speaker 3: For the mo part you know how I am what

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Speaker 3: If I'm a team right now, I saw this, who

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Speaker 3: So the fire sale is coming and this is just

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Speaker 3: the start of it. And we haven't hit Monday yet.

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Speaker 3: It's coming really soon, Cratzy.

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Speaker 4: Good for the Twins. Good for the Twins. Not only

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Speaker 4: did they take on money last year, they just shed

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Speaker 4: off Grand Slam yesterday. That you know what, guys, we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a guy who's had a two, three,

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Speaker 2: But they've been really good in the bullpen for this team.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to build up the leverage that they have,

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Speaker 2: their bullpen has not been great this year. The Twins,

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Speaker 2: they should not have traded away Louis Martlin's last year.

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Speaker 2: I get you were doing your fire sale. You want

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Speaker 2: I think if they could do a Mulligan on that one,

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Speaker 2: they would be a very different looking ball club. They're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it wasn't just us saying huh, it was

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Speaker 4: Louis Varland. But I think it was a very short

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Speaker 4: We need to save money because teams started calling and

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Speaker 4: this guy. All right, Well, let's just get rid of

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Speaker 4: all of them, because he's still he doesn't even three years.

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Speaker 4: At the end of this year, he won't have three

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a lot more than that.

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Speaker 2: at Jim Bowden's tweet on grading trades. I think he's

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Speaker 2: He said. The Twins pursue their goal of adding at

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Speaker 2: the deadline with their most pressing bullpen need landing mintor

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Speaker 1: Not too far at all.

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Speaker 3: It's possible nobody's talking about them either in my at

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Speaker 3: just one of those things where that Central Division is

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Speaker 3: is you got three team, four teams actually battling for

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Speaker 2: Of course, yes, I agreed, And then back to the

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Speaker 2: more twins with Dan Hayes coming up. Crats, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: empty out half their bullpen. They're gonna look at anything,

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Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't feel like Luke Weaver gets dealt.

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Speaker 4: Of the playoffs, one out of the playoffs. That's what

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the industry and the world believed

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Speaker 2: But we're ready to go now. Freddy Peralta, Clay Holmes,

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Speaker 3: Is, and I cannot wait to see it. To all

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Speaker 3: They've just been just haven't been there all year long.

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Speaker 2: No, they've been terrible this year, terrible roster construction this year.

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Speaker 4: You figured it out. We didn't. We didn't screw you up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, I'm if I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: seems healthy. Stuff's there. Some things have changed, not working

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Speaker 3: We're hoping he doesn't too good on this last outing here,

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's step aside. Did you have one

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Speaker 4: No? No, I just had. I just had Tyron Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I think Tyron Taylor is more value than Luise Robert.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to see Freddy p go to Atlanta too,

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Speaker 4: I get it, they're not trading Mets in Atlanta. I

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Speaker 2: Hey, did you see Casey miz scratched from his start

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Speaker 2: Jim Bowden, let's roll back to back tweets, Tiger's going

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Speaker 1: There you go. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I I think they're doing the right thing. Honestly, I

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Speaker 3: said it before. I didn't think they'll make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you think of it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think he can make a big,

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Speaker 2: They're calling up Max Clark this weekend. Riley had a

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Speaker 4: When you get no the timing, I get it, Like hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I am not a fan of trading him too soon,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got him and Chase Burns. It could

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Speaker 1: Yeah, injuries will come and go.

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Speaker 4: and now they've really they've really built a pitching dynasty.

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Speaker 4: So to me, if you can get something for Hunter,

434
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Speaker 4: it has to be something that you've been lacking the

435
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 4: last three years, and that is a mega impact back.

436
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know who that would be, not don't

437
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: don't let me see, don't let me see Hunter Green

438
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 4: for you know, four or five double A and below

439
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 4: type of prospects, because then every every other one of

440
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: these position player prospects or position players on this team

441
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 4: will age out before they contend.

442
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think what hurts them here Steer getting hurt.

443
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: I think that was one guy they wanted to trade.

444
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: Matty McClain just hasn't been the same dude. I was

445
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: looking for this guy to be an absolute beast. He

446
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: came out hot. I know, yeah, I got injured too

447
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: as well. But you know, a couple guys that I

448
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: was really looking forward to watching for a long time

449
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: be a Red. But now there's an opportunity for Steer

450
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Speaker 3: to get traded. I love South Stewart, absolutely love what

451
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: he's doing. Everything about him. I think he's a beast.

452
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Speaker 3: I think him and Ellie daily Cruz would be a

453
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 3: good little combination moving forward if ally can figure out

454
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: a little bit too as well. But there's a lot,

455
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 3: it's a lot here for the Reds, and they really

456
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: have to. They should keep Hunter Green and then you know,

457
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: hopefully trade a couple of guys that you know right

458
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 3: now that they don't see in the future.

459
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. We have years left of

460
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Hunter Green on this current contract. If it's a couple

461
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: of years left, you want to talk cool four.

462
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be something really special they get back,

463
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like, hey, we're willing

464
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 3: to trade them, but talk to me, like, you know,

465
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: it's got to be it's got to be dinner and dessert,

466
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Speaker 3: if you know what I want.

467
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving for Hunter Green right now. I get it, right,

468
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: some injuries in there, but I mean when he's pitching

469
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Speaker 2: krats like he can, you can start a playoff series

470
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Speaker 2: for Yes.

471
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Speaker 4: I get it, I get it. But it's one of

472
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Speaker 4: those things. And I think I get all trade deadlines.

473
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Speaker 4: The team that's most advantageous with their strengths, I think

474
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 4: takes advantage of the trade deadline and the Reds that

475
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: is that is a advantage they have. They can create pitching,

476
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: enhance pitching, whatever way you want to look at it,

477
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: and they have some dudes, so to me, yeah, I

478
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Speaker 4: just I ever since you guys brought it up. I

479
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 4: just am trying to think of what that impact bat

480
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Speaker 4: would be that the Reds would be, Like, whoa, we

481
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Speaker 4: got South Stewart, Ellie de la Cruz and player X

482
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 4: for the next four years, let's get it. I just

483
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: don't know who that would be.

484
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll have to sift through a lot of things,

485
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm going at it right now. In the chat,

486
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: they're like, the Reds just said that they're not trading him.

487
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm good with that. I said, who said that, Nick Caral,

488
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Speaker 2: the leader of the front office. No, it was from

489
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Speaker 2: some Okay, who Okay?

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what if somebody wants Lodolo? What if somebody wants

491
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: Andrew rabbit Less control? What would that price be? You know,

492
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: shoot for the moon. You're asking for somebody and then

493
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: shoot for the stars. Maybe you hit the moon. That

494
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: kind of thing. They have a lot of good pitching.

495
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

496
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: But but also I'll give you an example. Buddy of mine,

497
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: Andrew Fisher, who we've had in minor league, absolutely tearing

498
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: it up. His dad or buddy of his dad hits

499
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: me up, say, bro, so you're gonna go to the Mets.

500
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: You see this article, I'm like the Bruise would be

501
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: not very smart if they were to trade away their

502
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: number one prospect, You know what I mean. There's articles

503
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: left and right. You you could believe what you want.

504
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: But at the same time, unless your agent's telling you,

505
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: or you're hearing from the top dogs, I don't believe

506
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: anything that's really said unless we're talking about some of

507
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 3: the top guys in the systems, you know, like like

508
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: the Buster, all these the Kirchens, the you know, Ken

509
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: Rosen Dolls of the world.

510
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Speaker 1: So other than that, I don't believe anybody.

511
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving. Let's go to the Mariners.

512
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Where we at on this team. I mean, they lost

513
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: again last night to the Dodgers. This is tough timing

514
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: to be taking on the best team in baseball when

515
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: you're trying to prove to your front office that you

516
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: would like them to invest more into the big league

517
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: lineup come trade deadline time. They're at fifty three and

518
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: fifty seven. Adam Jude Seattle Times writing about them last night,

519
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: and a quote from Brian Wu front office coaches, everybody

520
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: put enough into the product on the field time for

521
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: us to do something about it. Aj documented how Wu

522
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: has been tail of two dudes, home and Road some

523
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: of the bigger roads home road splits you'll see. But

524
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: where are we at here, Kratz. I mean we're not

525
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: playing buy or sell. It's more buy or hold, you know,

526
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: like heavy buy or light by I think is the

527
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: game to play with the Mariners, they're not selling. They're

528
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: right in the mix of a crappy division in the

529
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: al West. But do you believe a team has to

530
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: show you a certain level of production by this point

531
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, this is the year, guys, I smell it,

532
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: this is the World Series team. I'll I'll tell you,

533
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know right Like, I still see a core

534
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: of pieces here that can get hot at the right time.

535
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying for a team like Seattle, I always look

536
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: back at twenty twenty one Atlanta Braves hovering around this

537
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: range up until about this time, and then they took off.

538
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: They made a number of deals and they won the

539
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: World Series.

540
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: Number of small deals. I mean they went and got

541
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: I mean shot. I'm gonna even forget who it was.

542
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: I can vision, but it was John Peterson, duval Adam

543
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 4: Duvall like Little God.

544
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: Ended up being a big addition wow time.

545
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: But he was hurt and then he comes back and

546
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: he wins the MVP of the World Series. So I

547
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 4: don't discount little moves as saying, oh, we didn't do

548
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: anything with a team like the Mariners, because the Mariners

549
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: did their heavy lifting in the offseason. Kudos to them,

550
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: kudos you were like, we loved what we saw in

551
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: Josh Naylor. We're bringing them back. You know what, we

552
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: won another platoon advantage, even though we signed Roblaze to

553
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: a weird extension that the other people in the game

554
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 4: didn't quite see. But hey, you know what, you did it.

555
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 4: Then you went on and got Ref Schneider probably one

556
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: of the best right handed bats against lefties, sons Randall Gritchek.

557
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: So I think they made a lot of really good moves.

558
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: And I think this trade deadline a little move here,

559
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: a little move there. Ultimately, Charlie Manuel will let you

560
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: know water levels out because if Julio Rodriguez returns to form,

561
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 4: which I think he will end up with over at

562
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: eight hundred ops, Kyle Rowley just needs to go back

563
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: to like a little bit below his like normal production,

564
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: not last year. Last year ain't happening, Just a little

565
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: bit below normal production. That's going to be a massive upgrade.

566
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: And that coupled with Dominic Canzone, who's their best hitter

567
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 4: right now and probably is going to get some MVP votes. Like,

568
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: this team has the pieces to do it. This is

569
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: up to the players. This is not a front office.

570
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: This is up to the players. So a little piece here,

571
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: little piece there, maybe, but no, this is the team

572
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: they got to win it. Or it was a failed

573
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: season for him.

574
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

575
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: And I'll be quick. It just seems like it's the

576
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: same old these last couple of years. Great pitching, they

577
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: can need hitting, and now like nothing in my opinion,

578
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 3: so ah god, I'm like selling between here because I

579
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: love I love everything about the Mariners.

580
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's been a couple of years now. We've

581
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: been talking the same old story.

582
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were went away from the World Series

583
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: last year.

584
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: I get it. How much it doesn't seem like it here.

585
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: I mean, no, this year, it doesn't, you know what.

586
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know. I don't know.

587
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I just don't.

588
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm just very confused about them, and I get what

589
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: you're saying, maybe because I don't watch them as much.

590
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: It's just they're just the Mariners. I don't know.

591
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm just take I just feel like it's World Series

592
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: or bust for this team since we've been talking about

593
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: so much how good their pitchers, they're the best in

594
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: the league, and it just they haven't gotten to a

595
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: World Series.

596
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: So then that's why for me, I'm like, he'll ask, yeah,

597
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: six right.

598
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: Six guys. Six guys have made They've used six starters

599
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: the entire year. Take advantage of it.

600
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: There you go, They've got something special with their pitching

601
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: program that they've actually consistently been able to do this.

602
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: That's what they should trade for.

603
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: They should trade for some of those coaches and stuff

604
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: and know how to fix these things.

605
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: We'll fix the offense. They got they they got they

606
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about that. They got rid of

607
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: their third in command hitting coach, thinking that's going to

608
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: change the world. But they're just throwing things. It's the

609
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: dartboard status right now to try and see if they

610
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: can fix the offense. A good way to fix the

611
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: offense is maybe to pick up a bat, he said.

612
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: One executive says they're more teams posturing quote, we are

613
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: going to sell and buy than he can ever remember.

614
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: I guess that's the trend this year. He added, what

615
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: does that mean? Let me show you an example, the

616
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates looking at Camillo Duval from the Yankees. This

617
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: report coming from the New York Posts Joel Sherman. He

618
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 2: has had a rough year, thirty seven innings for eight

619
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: sixty ra Todd, You've seen plenty of Camillo Duval. The

620
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: stuff's there. I don't want to say change of scenery.

621
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: It's like he just got there. He's only been with

622
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: the team for about a year. But when we say

623
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: buy and sell, the Yankees aren't just selling, but they

624
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: might sell away a piece like this while they also

625
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: buy this all it opens up roster spots, It acquires prospects.

626
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are probably going to sell a piece or two.

627
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: There's been a lot written about Alex call and Eric

628
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: lower and some of the guys on the fringes of

629
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: their roster. So your thoughts on how that works for

630
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: the Yankees. You've also seen him pitch. You think he

631
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: can go help a team like Pittsburgh when they've had

632
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: significant bullpen problems and be out of the limelight. It's

633
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: it's a little more chilling Pittsburgh.

634
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen.

635
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: The example I give is when I got traded from

636
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: the you know, I'm just being honest, from the White

637
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: Sox to the Yankees. They wanted Kanelee and oh my god,

638
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: Dave roberts and they're like, well, they probably said Robertson, Robertson, Yeah, listen,

639
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: you gotta take Todd with you.

640
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm listen.

641
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a fact, but in my

642
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: heart and gut, I feel like that might have been

643
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: the issue.

644
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Not saying that I'm a bad player.

645
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I know the Red Sox

646
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: wanted me too, So there's different angles and ways to

647
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: go about it. Yeah, if you got to trade away

648
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: some of the guys selling wise, you're gonna have to

649
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Speaker 3: get rid of another piece that's actually pretty good, that

650
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: has been helping the team. And I think the ball

651
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: would help anywhere. I just think he's just got to

652
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: be more consistent with his pitches, and getting away from

653
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: a big market team I think would help him too,

654
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: maybe more relaxed and just go out there and be

655
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: the picture he is. He's been, he's done. He's done

656
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: good for the Yankees, but overall too, he's thrown a

657
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: lot of pitches. His stuff is there. It's just gotta

658
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: be consistent.

659
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

660
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was also struggling. He was with the Yanks

661
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: with the Giants too before he went to the Yankees,

662
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 4: so there's that. And if they're looking for a closer,

663
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: they got rid of him last year and Bednar, so

664
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Speaker 4: there's that.

665
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Speaker 1: To me.

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Speaker 4: I think if the if the Pirates do something, not

667
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: if they're gonna do something. They didn't buy Pirates way

668
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: before this season, and they're not gonna waste Brandon Lowe's

669
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: you know, trading for Brandon Lowe. I think it's gonna

670
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: be like a Kenley Jansen to close because they're a

671
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: team that needs a closer, and then they'll try to

672
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: fit in. You don't fit in another piece in that bullpen,

673
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: So if they get two pieces, it will definitely be

674
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: an upgrade.

675
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: They need at least too. Some teams have very clear

676
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: cut needs. And the one thing that we always mentioned

677
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 2: that is the easiest to find around this time is

678
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: relief pitching. You gotta pay the piper for the big boys.

679
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: But everybody knows you need it.

680
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: The mid tier, like we just saw in the last

681
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: two days, AJ Minter and Chase sil Seth go. They

682
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: might not be the sexiest names, although Minter was one

683
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: of the best in the sport for a bit. They're

684
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: going to be helpful. Chase Silseth, nice year, mintor looking

685
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: good now that he's back. Those guys are going to

686
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: be helpful. So that's what Pittsburgh needs to do. Crats

687
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: like those types is probably more realistic. No, like at

688
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: least one of those and then a Kenley at.

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Speaker 4: Least one of those types. You know, that guy that has,

690
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Speaker 4: you know, maybe a tick north of a strikeout per

691
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: inning some and sil Seth would have been great mentor

692
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 4: would have been great in that pen. But I also

693
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 4: think when they get like, let's say it's just two guys,

694
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: it's a Kenley, because they do need a bona fide closer.

695
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: It's a Kenley and another piece, we're gonna start to

696
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: see that they do have some pieces in that bullpen

697
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: that are good, really good in the sixth, seventh inning

698
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 4: and in the playoffs. You need to have those pieces

699
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: not be in the eighth and ninth inning like they

700
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Speaker 4: are right now. I mean, I think Santana, who they

701
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: just dfa'd probably could have been a really good player

702
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: had he not been pushed into the toughest spots of

703
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: every game, and you know what, now he's DFAD. So

704
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Speaker 4: I think there's value in having guys take up those

705
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: tougher innings. Even though everyone says it's just three outs,

706
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: We've had pictures on that say that's not true. I

707
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Speaker 4: think that's where the pirates will definitely find a ton

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Speaker 2: It is hug Watch weekend krats. So, for example, you

718
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Speaker 2: have the two Fox games this week and of Diamondbacks

719
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Speaker 2: Guardians along with the Yankees matching up against the Cubs. Now,

720
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Speaker 2: hug Watch for the Yankees and Cubs actually could be

721
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Speaker 2: a thing. We just talked about camillea do ball that

722
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: could be a hug Watch right there. If they do

723
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: some selling. Those two teams are mostly gonna do buying,

724
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: but they could do a little bit of both, like

725
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the show, and on the

726
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks and Guardian side, you could see a little bit

727
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: of both from them too, So there could be some

728
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Speaker 2: hug watch going on.

729
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I don't necessarily like the hug watch

730
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: in the big leagues. I like the hug watch in

731
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: the in the minor leagues. That's when the dudes are like, what,

732
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: I gotta get on a flight to get Frisco. I

733
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: gotta go to Round Rock, I gotta go to But

734
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: the other one the other day, the best one was,

735
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: I think it was Meckler with the Angels Saul Logan

736
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: o'happy walk away, and he was like, he gets traded.

737
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: What like at least when you get hugged in the

738
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: in the dugout, you know, like your teammates knew that

739
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: you got traded. When dudes are just like hey what no, Like, no,

740
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: he didn't get it, he got sent down, It's like, yeah,

741
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: well he wasn't playing good.

742
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: Hug him and leave him. That's it, man, What do

743
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: you have for me? On Yankees' Cubs, This weekend. Yankee's

744
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: gonna score some runs.

745
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

746
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, This Cubs team has been playing

747
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: really well. Might have to put the hat down like that.

748
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen.

749
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: They won the first two games against the White Sox

750
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: and kind of fizzled there a little bit. It's been

751
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: a really peculiar year, you know what I mean. And

752
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: it's like they come out they're really hot, and then

753
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: when they're really bad, they're really bad. So hopefully this

754
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: is not the sign of more losses to come. But

755
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: you're in regular field, an early game, not used to

756
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: playing that many early games.

757
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: You're professional. They should be fine.

758
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: But they're facing you know, some really good I mean,

759
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: what's am I saying that?

760
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Right?

761
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's I know.

762
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: No, I'm thinking I'm going through the whole thing.

763
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, not going and Drew Peterson, who they've seen before,

764
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: but Drew's done pretty well against them.

765
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: If I recall David or David still David.

766
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Drew the reliever, bro, I know who Drew.

767
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: Keep saying David until you gave it to.

768
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: Me, I know Drew was the right handed reliever.

769
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, there is it Drew Peterson.

770
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Speaker 1: But yes, I don't know. I'm in between on this

771
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: one here.

772
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I want to watch with this

773
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: p is hot pa Is. I'm not saying he's the

774
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: most exciting player to watch, but he's actually what Jazz

775
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: Chisholm wants to be in the sense of like the limelight,

776
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: like the dude, like somebody that's an actual MVP type

777
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: of candidate. I want to see this. I mean, maybe

778
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but PCA knows. PCA knows, and he plays

779
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: off of it. He loves it when the tarps off

780
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: crew and Saint Louis is like turning their back and

781
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a good game. Next game he shows out,

782
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: Like to me, this dude, is you play well? I

783
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: don't care what anybody says. Yes, your war number? What

784
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: is his war seven point one right now? Like he's

785
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: beating show hey to me when you show out. And

786
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 4: this was something that Ryan Samberg, it's ironic. We're talking

787
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: about the Cubs. Ryan Samberg told us about the year

788
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: he won the MVP. It was the massive game he

789
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: had on the Game of the Week. This is the

790
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: series of the year for PCA, not that like it

791
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: makes a breath that it's something that his flash his

792
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: limelight going up ag the Yankees in Wrigley like he

793
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: must protect this house. I want to see it.

794
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: And we'll talk to Ken later. But he's on that

795
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: game Yankees cups. And it's not just watching the game

796
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: over the weekend, it's watching the trades and then with

797
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Ken on the broadcast, all the trades are going down

798
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: like that is that is yeah, But but AJ's not

799
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: freaking out. He's just doing the game. Ken is doing

800
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: the game and the reporting on the trades at the

801
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: same time, which is just a lot. But you want

802
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: to be on that broadcast to hear when Ken's jumping

803
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: in about a particular trade. On the other side the

804
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: other game that they're running on Fox and on the

805
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Fox one app, Guardians and Diamondbacks. Where are we at

806
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: with those two teams? You know me? I feel like

807
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: I've been the high guy on the Diamondbacks, right so

808
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm still buying what they're cooking this year, and I

809
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: think they should buy Kratz. Where are you at on

810
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: those two teams? Cleveland's obviously hanging around Cleveland at this

811
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: time line last year did not look like much and

812
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: what happened to them? I mean, they didn't go deep

813
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: into the postseason, but they made one of the more

814
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: ridiculous runs to take down the Division that scene in

815
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: baseball history. It just goes to show you that sometimes

816
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: we talk about a team at this point in the year,

817
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: we're just about to turn the page to August and

818
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: we're like, eh, and then the narrative changes fast. Kind

819
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: of like Boston.

820
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: Kratz similar to Boston. But I like the Guardians better

821
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: than I like Boston, so there's that. I think they're

822
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: starting pitching is really solid. I think they have guys

823
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: who just I think they have enough mix of a

824
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: few veteran guys on that team and Josey and Austin Hedges,

825
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: and enough mix of just dudes who are like, I

826
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: don't even know what we're doing here, We're just going

827
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: out and playing baseball, and they just go out and compete.

828
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Speaker 4: I love the Guardians, but I can't turn away from

829
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: watching a Diamondbacks game. I think that lineup is special.

830
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: I think they don't have enough starting pitching to sustain this,

831
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: but I think what that lineup, the way they run

832
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: the bases, the way they're just aggressive and everything, and

833
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: I love Corbyn Carroll and I love when Ktell Marte

834
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: is hot, but Corbyn Carroll makes me one. I'm like,

835
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Speaker 4: how many at bats away till Corbyn Carrol, I'm gonna

836
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: make sure I'm I'm sticking to this game, and I

837
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: end up watching three quarters of a of a Diamondbacks game.

838
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 4: So I like the Diamonbacks actually a little bit more

839
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: than the Guardians, but I think it's going to be opposite.

840
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 4: I don't think the Diamondbacks make the playoffs and I

841
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: think the Guardians do.

842
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: Well.

843
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I afference right, well, well it happened, We don't know,

844
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: but that's my assessment too.

845
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: And El's better than the Al this year. Hey, if

846
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Speaker 2: you want to check out those games. MLB on Fox

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Speaker 2: a Ken report, shall we. It's on the Big Boy

854
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: Trek scouble. Do you think that money could hold back

855
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: a team from acquiring Trek's schoogl example would be Milwaukee Brewers.

856
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: He's O ten mil for the rest of the season.

857
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: Ken's report moments ago Brewers would absorb schoogles salary in

858
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: a potential deal. So Ken said, if the Brewers are

859
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: able to land him, despite being in the smallest market

860
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 2: in baseball, they are willing to take on the rest

861
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: of schoogle salary. According to a person briefed on their discussion,

862
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: that's huge news in my mind for Milwaukee, because if

863
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: you're going to land someone like this, guess what is

864
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: going to be a difficult phone call. Hey, we want Schooble,

865
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: but we'd like you to eat some of the contract

866
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: for a top three starting pitcher in the sport. That

867
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: would be a tough call. So instead you're like, cool,

868
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: we can take on the money and we're gonna have

869
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: the top prospect package. And that's how you land someone

870
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: like this, and that's how you create your CC Sabbathia

871
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: moment from twenty years ago.

872
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're Milwaukee, and if I'm any teams ten millions

873
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: should not bother me. Small market or not.

874
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: People are gonna you're gonna make that back, maybe on

875
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: schoobl starts in the regular season. Yes, that that place

876
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: is going to fill up. You know how it is.

877
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: Skrats they do a nice job filling it up anyway,

878
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: Jersey Sales, they will fill it up to watch.

879
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: Bobblehead like that. There's there's all things you could do

880
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: with them. Mike, he's a new guy in town. He's

881
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: the best picture in the big leagues. Yeah, this money

882
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: shouldn't be the problem. So yeah, Brewers talk about money,

883
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: but if you're in it, ten million dollars should not be.

884
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: It's a lot of money, I'm letting you know. But

885
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: to get the best picture in baseball, that's an easy

886
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: yes for me.

887
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: I walked out when I was leaving the American Family

888
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 4: Financial Field. I walked out with Mark Antonassio, the owner

889
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: of the Brewers, and just the way he talked about

890
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: winning a World Series, the way he talked about needing

891
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: the pieces that they are wanting, the pieces that they need.

892
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised by this report for one second.

893
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: One other thing about Milwaukee Crats before we get to

894
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: our next guest. Do you know the team in last

895
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: place in home runs in all of baseball this year?

896
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: Milwaukee?

897
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you okay with that, Yes, okay.

898
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: Because you're not gonna add You're not gonna You're not

899
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 4: gonna all of a sudden become middle of a tier

900
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: in the league just because you add one guy.

901
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: But you don't think the team needs a little more

902
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: pop than last in the league to win a World Series.

903
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: How that translates. No, it's okay if you don't.

904
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I do not.

905
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: As long as you're winning, defense, athleticism, defense, and great pitching,

906
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: they punch out the world.

907
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree.

908
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: If you're winning, it doesn't matter. Makes it for more

909
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: interesting baseball too.

910
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: Hm hm, Todd Father, you want to read this one.

911
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: Mets have scratched Freddy Peralta from his start tonight. Heard

912
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: John Hayman.

913
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: What happened?

914
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I think he's hurt. No, just kidding. I think just

915
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: being cautious. This is baseball.

916
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: You think they've figured some stuff out and all of

917
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: a sudden something new comes on. Now, if you're going

918
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: to be traded, you're not doing anything right. We're gonna

919
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: put you in a box. Just stay inside. You want

920
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: to throw a little bit, throw, but we're gonna have

921
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: a trainer next to you so in case you trip.

922
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: You can cut out I'm kidding, but.

923
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: It does feel like they guys little trendy this year. Yeah,

924
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: it is right scratch yeah. I mean are they allowed

925
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: to leave the house? Are they allowed to eat whatever

926
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: they want? Like the stomach?

927
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Ga? Yeah?

928
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: You ever seen the movie Bubble Boy? I think that's

929
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: like thirty years ago. But you couldn't go near him right,

930
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh you could. He was literally in a bubble.

931
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

932
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, kids, look it up. But that's I guess Freddy

933
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: PRAULTA Casey Mize and some more maybe this Weekendocrats.

934
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: They've done this for years. They've done this.

935
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: I know they've done it.

936
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't think, but I've never heard everybody, no, bud,

937
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: they have.

938
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: There's been there's been plenty of times when dudes have

939
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 4: been traded and they're like, you can't even go into

940
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: the dugout, like if you get hit by a foul ball.

941
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: And then you go all the way back to when

942
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: yesterday was the anniversary of when Amir Garrett charged the

943
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: Pirates dugout. Remember that Yasiel Pligue had already been traded.

944
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: They were talking about it in the they were talking

945
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 4: about it in the telecast, and he was just he

946
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: was just out there playing and it ends up getting

947
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: in the fight, like he's already traded from the Reds.

948
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: So they've been pulling guys. They've been pulling guys at

949
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: different spots for years.

950
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just feel like the percentage seems a

951
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: little bit higher right now. Yes, guy a peer's boom

952
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: he scratched. It's like, I mean, I'm missing some of course,

953
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: but two pitched Scooble and Debt Merse or not that

954
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Merse sorry, Schooble and Robbie Ray in the last few days,

955
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: and now we've got a miz and a Freddie p scratch.

956
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: Am I overthinking it? Maybe? Maybe krats? But that's what

957
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: I do here, That's part of my job.

958
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 4: But we also live we also live in the helicopter

959
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: parent generation. We live in a helicopter organization generation. Gee,

960
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't know why Prelip's not gonna be able to

961
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 4: throw enough innings for us as we get to the playoffs. Oh,

962
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: because he's never been built up past ninety. I don't

963
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen with the White Sox guys in

964
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 4: their rotation because, oh, they've never thrown past five innings

965
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: in the minor leagues, like yeah, so I get it.

966
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: I get and it's on trend that they're gonna be like, oh,

967
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: super scared. We're not going to get our max value

968
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: out of Freddy P, who we thought was gonna be

969
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: our number one when we brought him over this year.

970
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: And if anything, I mean, sure, you want to get

971
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: as many starts as you can out of the guy

972
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: that you're picking up. But you would have thought, oh,

973
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: maybe they'll scratch Trek's Google and you get another start

974
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: out of him. I mean, you're gonna get another start

975
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: out of Casey Mice if and when he gets dealt,

976
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: because now he can start for you early next week

977
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: instead of middle to late next week. Same thing with

978
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: Freddy P getting scratched today. If he gets traded, I

979
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: mean he gets depending on how quickly he gets dealt,

980
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: he could start on Monday, Tuesday, something like that. So

981
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: here's the line for Freddy. Yeah, just got him there.

982
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: It's been a weird year. Four nine to nine is

983
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: not what you'd expect from Freddy, and the extension for

984
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: him is down. It's hurting. The heater, the breaking stuff

985
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: not looking the same, the shapes, you know, all the

986
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: stuff that the pitching coaches loved to gush about. He's

987
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: not looking as good lately, too, looking worse. I'm just

988
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: telling you it looks like a prime candidate where he's

989
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: going to join a different crew and he's gonna go

990
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: whoa right back up to close to where he was.

991
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: You have to look at it this way too. Is

992
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Freddy praul To a playoff starter? The version of Freddy

993
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: peraul to that team think they can get him to

994
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: revert to pretty quickly? Is that a playoff starter for you?

995
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: And apparently the Mets are asking for a lot. We're

996
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: going to talk to Ken Rosenthal soon, but apparently they're

997
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: asking for a lot.

998
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he could be for sure. Yeah, sometimes

999
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: a change of scenery is not the best. And I

1000
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: think this is just not working out for him in

1001
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: New York. New York's tough man. Queens is tough. It's

1002
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: a tough place to play in. They're on you no

1003
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: matter what. You better do well or they're going to

1004
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: be on you. And some people can handle it. Not

1005
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: saying he's not, but you know, sometimes you don't like

1006
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: the area you're playing at. You know there's place I

1007
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: didn't like playing that, you.

1008
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: Know, So tell us where Todd.

1009
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: Literal league down the street?

1010
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: Is it rhyme with.

1011
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I like pick I love playing at Pittsburgh.

1012
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: Honestly playing in I love playing it? Yeah Pittsburgh, No, no,

1013
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: playing in?

1014
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, I love playing for the Pirates?

1015
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: Probably not. Wasn't your favorite at the time. They were

1016
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: in a org was in a weird place.

1017
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: The people above that were, yeah, it was.

1018
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: It was interesting there. Hey, one last point on Freddy

1019
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna get to Ken in a couple

1020
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: of minutes. This could make him a lot of money.

1021
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: He's a free agent after this. This season is not

1022
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 2: going in the direction. First of all, now you wipe

1023
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: out the qualifying offer, he's not going to get that.

1024
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: But also if he pitches well and pitches into the playoffs,

1025
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: people are going to go, oh, the Mets thing, that

1026
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: was a blip, that was a Mets thing. That's okay.

1027
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: The Freddy that we've seen for years with Milwaukee, that's

1028
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: the Freddy I'm buying. We're going to see a very

1029
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: clear cut is this the Freddy or is this the Freddy?

1030
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna go somewhere else and you're gonna get say yep,

1031
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: he's back or nope. I'm worried about him in free agency.

1032
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 2: That's a thing. He also went from the team that's

1033
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: one of the top pitching whisper programs out there, like

1034
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: look at Kyle Harrison, Giants, Red Sox, Boom Stud Brewers.

1035
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: I know he's been down a little bit injury wise too,

1036
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: but the version we've seen of him this year, Kratz

1037
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: is unlike anything we saw prior.

1038
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: It's exactly what he looked like when he was hot,

1039
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: when he first came to the Giants. And then they

1040
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: were like, here, tinker, tinker, tinker. Eh, oh, we can

1041
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: get rid of him. Cool. Red Sox were like, I mean,

1042
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: this was Kyle Harrison's exact words.

1043
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: Eh.

1044
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: You know, they tried, We tried to do some things

1045
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: that I didn't one hundred percent agree with, and it

1046
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: just never really got any runway. Like that's the nicest

1047
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 4: way of saying, these dudes really didn't put a lot

1048
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: into me. I had no idea who I was as

1049
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: a player, and now I'm dealing

1050
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: George