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Speaker 1: For so long, my life has been a performance. As

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Speaker 1: soon as you perform, you're on a stage, and people

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Speaker 1: if I'm just being myself here, you don't have the

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Speaker 2: Alexis Wren is an actress, entrepreneur, model, and mental health advocate.

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Speaker 2: She starred in movies including Latency and The Enforcer. Alexis

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Speaker 2: founded the incredible We All Warriors Well in This Community

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Speaker 1: You know, either everything is sacred or none of it is,

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Speaker 1: And I decided that all of it is. That's what

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Speaker 1: I felt with all of that, With like investing in

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Speaker 1: So it's very masculine, no offense. But we don't need

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Speaker 1: like another industry like dominated by masculinity.

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Speaker 2: I'm Radi Wuka and on my podcast A Really Good Cry,

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Speaker 2: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space raw,

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Speaker 2: un filtered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you to

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Speaker 2: tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together. I

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Speaker 2: am so excited to have you here. Thank you and

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Speaker 2: everyone that's listening. Let me just give you a bit

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Speaker 2: of a background. We've known each other for a good

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Speaker 2: conversations have just been so wonderful. I've always left either

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Speaker 2: just seen how you absorb information and how you share

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Speaker 2: And so thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: So sweet, No, I really mean it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know whether you know this, but the

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Speaker 1: myself right now, is was that a performance or was

438
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: that me speaking from an authentic place? And finding the

439
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: difference of that is the levity because it takes the

440
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 1: weight off of the judgments or opinions of how I

441
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: said something or if I said something wrong. Also not attached.

442
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: I have this one of my favorite quotes in the world.

443
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: I found it when I was like seventeen on Tumblr.

444
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: It's called strong beliefs loosely held, and I think that's

445
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: just how I live my entire life, where it's like

446
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: I have very strong beliefs, but if you give me

447
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: something better, yeah, like I'm gonna take that, like I

448
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: don't care, like but it's but I do have strong beliefs,

449
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: but I'm very just like how I am with my

450
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: identity nowadays, Like I don't even with my style. It's

451
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: like I tried so hard to find myself out. I

452
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: was like, I'm streetwear, I'm this, I'm and it's just

453
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: like what really depends on the day. Yeah, you can

454
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: do it all like and that's that's with personality, that's

455
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: with speaking, that's with fashion, that's with identity, Like it

456
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: all can change and evolve and be everything or nothing

457
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: at the same time. And I think that's what's so beautiful.

458
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: And I think for me, it's just been finding out

459
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: where I can take the weight off. And I think

460
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: you understand this too, where when you're speaking and something

461
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: comes over you, a lot of people call it flow

462
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: state and science. To me, that's channeling. That's not me anymore,

463
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: like and people say, wow, what you did was amazing. Like,

464
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that experience you were talking about was Laura,

465
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Like that was I don't really think that was me.

466
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: That was just needed. That's I was just open enough

467
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: to be able to receive what needed to be said

468
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: in that experience for us to get what was supposed

469
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: to happen. And that also is huge to take the

470
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: weight off. It's like, yes, I want to influence every

471
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: scenario I'm in for my desire, but like whatever's meant

472
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: to be is meant to be, and so if I'm

473
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: supposed to say something to push this forward, it will

474
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: happen because I'm open, But that's still not up to me.

475
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: None of it's up to me, nor is it my responsibility.

476
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: And so I know that sounds weird because it's like,

477
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: these are the things I'm saying and it's coming through me,

478
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: but they're the weights off now because I'm like I

479
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: have a partnership with the all God whatever.

480
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can honestly relate to that so much. The

481
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: reason I actually s thoughted the podcast was because I

482
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: was going on other people's podcast and I would be

483
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: so nervous to go on and I'd be thinking about,

484
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: like I don't even know what I'm going to say.

485
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's even going to come out

486
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: of my mouth. And it was weird for me because

487
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: I went in so not confident, and I would come

488
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: out of these podcasts and I would speak to my

489
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: mum or whoever. I'd be like, I didn't even know

490
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: that I had that in me. I had no way

491
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: I knew things from yourself. Yes, that's yeah, that's why

492
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: I love it.

493
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: That's why I do the community. That's why I like,

494
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm obviously going to start a prokram too, because it's

495
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: like this is way too fine.

496
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it.

497
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: But I went on and I'd listened back people, what

498
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: did you talk about?

499
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: And I was like, I honestly cannot remember the words

500
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 2: that came out of my mouth. And then I watch

501
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: your back and I'm like, wow, I didn't even know

502
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: I had the ability to vocalize how I felt or

503
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: what I knew in that way. And that's the reason

504
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: I ended up starting it, because I loved having those comments.

505
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: I would come out of those podcasts and I'd be like,

506
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: that was so beautiful to be able to open my

507
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: heart in.

508
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: That way exactly.

509
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 2: But in that way where you end up feeling like

510
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 2: I loved going in not knowing what I was going

511
00:23:59,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: to talk about.

512
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: I loved going into.

513
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: John knowing being okay with the unknown. Yes, let's the

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: channeling happens so much easier.

515
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: And the surrenders to it.

516
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Ann Yeah, Jesus Christ, it is the amount of time

517
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: I have gotten in my own way. Yeah, I'm just

518
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: like I know what to say, and God's like, yeah.

519
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Exactly, No, It's it's true, and that flow stake comes

520
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: and I feel whenever I think about I feel like

521
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: I have been in that situation where I come out

522
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: and I feel amazing about what's been shared and I've

523
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: opened up my heart. That's happened on Jay's podcast where

524
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: he asked me a question about our relationship and I

525
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: answer and he's like, I didn't even know that you

526
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: felt the way like oh crap, Like, oh no, I'm

527
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: so sorry. And I actually did that on our last podcast,

528
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: and it was almost to a point where I was like,

529
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: should I get that taken off because I don't know

530
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: whether that's going to come across right, But I didn't.

531
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: But it was that's how open when you get into

532
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: a conversation and you get asked questions that that spark

533
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: something in you, or that triggers something in you, and.

534
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: It forces you to show up. I also think very

535
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: something especially I really learned with you and Jay was

536
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: shortly after that meeting, you invited me and my friends.

537
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm over here, Yeah for that like small gathering, and

538
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: so much happens when you create a space for it.

539
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: And I noticed that when I'm going to butcher her

540
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: name Janavie Janaviy love her by the way. When she

541
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: plays rise that was like one of my old time

542
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: favorite songs in twenty twenty, so I was like crying.

543
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: It was the space that you created that invited the

544
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: moments and the channel. So like even now, it's like

545
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: you've created the space in which now it can come.

546
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, I make it a really

547
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone does this to an extent, but it's

548
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: like I like incense, I like candles, Like I make

549
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: sure that I'm creating a place where spirit like wants

550
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: to come.

551
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you feel at ease and at comfort,

552
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: because as soon as anxiety comes over or as soon

553
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: as you're too much in your head, you almost forget

554
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: what you even have to offer. And I get in

555
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: that space a lot where it's almost that something else

556
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: is I'm not allowing myself to be and to accept

557
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: my own self because I'm so nervous about how I'm

558
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: showing up that actually the version of me that I

559
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: love and that I actually want to be shared is

560
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: almost suppressed because I'm thinking too much about what I'm

561
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: showing up as and who I am.

562
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so true, and that's what I've been battling with.

563
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: But like seeing in myself, especially with you know, podcasts

564
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: in general. What I've also seen is I actually learned

565
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: this in a summit last month. Forced deep talk is

566
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: this same coin of small talk. Yeah, And I can't

567
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: tell you how many times I'm in a conversation where

568
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know you're trying to get the point

569
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: across that, like you're spiritual and deep, and like I

570
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: respect that this is not authentic. And so learning to

571
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: not force the vulnerability has been huge for me because,

572
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, with people wanting to monetize my story on

573
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: their own platforms whatever, and it's all good and it's

574
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: like I invite it. Sometimes there's been scenario, you know,

575
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: when you have a vulnerability hangover and you're like, that

576
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: starts to feel like a script, not who you are. Yes,

577
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: I had to learn that, not the hard way, but

578
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: I learned it recently and I was like, no more,

579
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: because I think what we're now looking for is just

580
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: good conversations.

581
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: Good conversation and.

582
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: No, yes, exactly good conversations.

583
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: But also when you end up.

584
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: And I heard this quote, and this is something that

585
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: I've always tried to every time I feel like I

586
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: move away from it, I tried to go towards it again.

587
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 2: It's kind of like my, what's the word like, northern

588
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: north light? What's the word for it?

589
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: North light?

590
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: No, thank you.

591
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: Integrity is when your words, your actions, and your thoughts

592
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: are all aligned. And I've noticed that whenever I've heard

593
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: people speak in that way, and whenever i've felt something

594
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: when people speak, it's because those three are in our

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: in alignment, and so whenever and that's why I feel

596
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: whenever I've seen you in that state, whenever I've heard

597
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: people speak and it's affected me, it only affects the

598
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: heart when all three of those are in line. That's

599
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: when you have the most power to penetrate someone else's heart,

600
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: to actually affect them and inspire them deeply. Is when

601
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: you're living it, you're breathing it, you're saying it, and

602
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: you're feeling it at the same time.

603
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of prep. It takes a little

604
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: bit practice of well, consistency, consistent showing up like every morning.

605
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: I was writing in my journal the other day and

606
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm just like, every morning, like I conquer me and

607
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: my connection basically because it's like every morning all I

608
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: want is connection, and yet the little in my connection. Yeah,

609
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: like this little me and me is just like no,

610
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like running away from the one

611
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: thing I want. I'm just like this all day until

612
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I finally I sit down and I write, or I

613
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: finally do the thing I want, or I dance or

614
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But it's like, we want connections so

615
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: bad and it's so funny that we just run around

616
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: circles like all days. So having that worth ethic to

617
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: show up for yourself in that way is what's created

618
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: me today and confidence in you because it is the confidence.

619
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: It is because if you prove to yourself, you can

620
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: show up for yourself.

621
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: It's true.

622
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: And I realized that's why I didn't have faith in

623
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: myself like that's why I had this habit of giving

624
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: everybody else my power or believing that somebody else knew

625
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: me better or could say things better than me, because

626
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: I was not completing things. I was not every single

627
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: day following through with what I said I was going

628
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: to do, and so the relationship that I had with

629
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: myself was so terrible. And why would I believe myself,

630
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: just like I wouldn't believe a guy who kept telling

631
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: me I'm going to be there at this time. I'm

632
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: going to be there at this time. I'm going to

633
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: show up in this way, and they never show up.

634
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I keep thinking I should have

635
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: a good relationship with myself without doing that work. And

636
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: so I've been working on that, like actually getting things started,

637
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Like I have this fear of starting things, which I

638
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: think a lot of people have. Podcast book, all the

639
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: things that I've done, it's been what you said, throwing

640
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: myself into it.

641
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Myself say it out loud, You're like, oh shit, yeah, exactly,

642
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: you finally say out loud.

643
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: You have people who make you accountable. You create that

644
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: environment where where you actually have accountability, and I think

645
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the time we end up not telling

646
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: people things or shying away from even if we're like, oh,

647
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, even if it's something like I want to

648
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: get healthy and I want to go for a walk

649
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes every day, telling someone or at least

650
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: telling one person or telling your community that this is

651
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do. It makes you accountable and

652
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: it helps give you that. And it doesn't mean that

653
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: people shouldn't give you grace. But if you struggle with

654
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: accountability to yourself, it's useful being able to share that

655
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: with other people so that you have at least that

656
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: starts you off.

657
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: It hurts what I have to do. Then what happens

658
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: is that once you get into that routine, then you

659
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: can start to build trust with your intuition. Yeah, and

660
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: you can say, okay, I've been so consistent with myself today,

661
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: i don't really feel good. I'm not going to go

662
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: on that walk today. It doesn't mean that I'm not

663
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: abiding to the you know, this work ethic and this

664
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: trust in myself. It's just I'm listening to my intuition now.

665
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: So there's like that progression from like I trust myself

666
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: now to finish things and get things done and do

667
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: things and change and grow, and then you have this beautiful,

668
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, leeway where you can just be like I'm

669
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: okay today and not have guilt because you trust yourself now, Yes,

670
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: and your voice gets stronger. The more you actually allow

671
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: the rest it can actually reworst, you know.

672
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Then the more you end up listening to your

673
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: own voice or actually trying to tune into it, the

674
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: louder that gets and the quieter other people's voices get.

675
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: And again that's something I'm trying to practice because I've

676
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: quietened my own voice for so long that I am

677
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: trying to tell it it's okay, Like it's okay for

678
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: you to speak, it's okay for you to to actually

679
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: voice how you're feeling because I'm here to listen to

680
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: you now, and it's having like everything that you have

681
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: in a relationship with someone else. It's just I don't

682
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: know why that that coin doesn't drop, And I feel

683
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: like I'm getting all these phrases on coin doesn't drop.

684
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why this is going to be like

685
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: a common thing I think in the podcast where.

686
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: It's like getting those phrases that pin the pin, not the.

687
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Coin, pin the wolf that cried boy.

688
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why that doesn't drop earlier.

689
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: That Actually, like the more you listen to yourself, the

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: stronger your connection with yourself gets. And what you were

691
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: saying about your intuition, it's hard to know what is

692
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: intuition and what's not if you aren't spending that time

693
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: in that relationship.

694
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: Exactly like this, that concept of intuitive eating. I didn't

695
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: understand it forever because I didn't trust myself, nor did

696
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with my intuition. So you have

697
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: to build that trust in respect, and then you can

698
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: trust the intuition and then you can move with the

699
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: current of your life as opposed to moving against it

700
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: because you build the current that you're moving in, but

701
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: you have to build it for a very long time.

702
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: And then I think there's so many different Just like

703
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: how we have seasons on you know, Earth and stuff,

704
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: it's the same way with us, Like we have seasons

705
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: where we're hibernating and going through deeper, darker work, or

706
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: sometimes we're you know, flying on top of the world.

707
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: And it's for me, it's learning to actually accept where

708
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I am as opposed to being like I'm working so much, God,

709
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I wish I was in bed I'm in bed. I

710
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: wish I was working like that. I hate and I've

711
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: really made it a priority to not swing with the

712
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: pendulum and actually become the pendulum and truly just be

713
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: like I'm embrace it and one hundred percent embrace it.

714
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: And like, you know, how we were speaking, we were

715
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: going to go to New York next week separately, but hey,

716
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: we can just say you these to go together. Yeah,

717
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: like that is starting to be a very packed week,

718
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: and it's like now I'm so I'm enjoying this week

719
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: of like I get to go home and have dinner,

720
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, and just relax and trusting that I'm going

721
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: to show up at the right time. Because I think

722
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: also to my sister Ali went through this last week

723
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: where she was like, I'm tired today, like I shouldn't

724
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: be tired today, And I was like, but you have

725
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: nothing to do today. So I think your body is

726
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: saying it's safe to just stress. So stop thinking that

727
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: you have to always be on and trust that when

728
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: you need to be on, you will, yes, and so

729
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: that will just that will release everything. And so now

730
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: when I feel tired, when I have tired days, I'm like, okay,

731
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Like it's great. It's kind of like a woman's period.

732
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: It's like she's never betrayed me. I'm always terrified were

733
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: just gonna come, But she's never betrayed me so far,

734
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: so we're good. But it's like it's that it's just

735
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: trusting that it's happening now because it can, yes, and

736
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: then when you need to show up in a different way,

737
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: you will. And separating that has been huge because it's

738
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: taken once again that guilt. Yes, of like I shouldn't

739
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: be tired right now? What's wrong? Should I power through this?

740
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: Like where's the caffeine?

741
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: And they do say that when you're in tune with

742
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: your body, your body knows when you're about to take

743
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: a break, or even if your mind knows that this

744
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: is when a holiday's coming up, or vacation's coming up,

745
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: or there's time to breathe. That's actually when a lot

746
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: of people get illnesses or they end up getting colds

747
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: and coughs, because they're in the state of their mind

748
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: knows they can only I'm able to rest. Finally, I'm

749
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: able to feel. But obviously it's not convenient because you're

750
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: on vacation and you're ill. But a lot of people

751
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: do get that. People have found that when they end

752
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: up actually relaxing their body, that's when their body feels

753
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: like it's okay for me to show you what's from.

754
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that too, Like when you get more

755
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: software and introspective and grounded into your body. I have,

756
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, friends who are like, I'm just so sensitive now,

757
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's good. That's a good sign.

758
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: And accept that sensitivity because we're so used to, you know,

759
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: to an extent, like being numb as the goal as

760
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: opposed to swinging and being the pendulum.

761
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: I love what you said about that, because you can

762
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: sometimes fall into that trap of oh, I've got a

763
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: lot going on and there's so much that I have

764
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: to do, versus being like, I'm so grateful that I

765
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: have And actually touched on something that.

766
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: I heard you say.

767
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: I think it was on the Weah Warriors page, and

768
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: it was about when you get opportunities in your life

769
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: that come to you that you've been wanting, even if

770
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: they don't end up happening. Instead of you saying I

771
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: didn't get that or this didn't happen in my life,

772
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: you say, I'm so grateful that life even showed me

773
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: this was possible.

774
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was possible. Yeah, I think

775
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: it's that whole concept of being ready to be ready,

776
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: just being happy and being ready. I think I think

777
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: especially with girls, you know, when you're about to go

778
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: on a vacation, here's something everyone can relate to, and

779
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: you're like, I can get my hair done, I'll give nail.

780
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: It's that preparation that's so fun. That getting ready before

781
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: the event. All of that is also a reflection of

782
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: manifestation in life. And so when I learn that through

783
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: like this one experience where I was going to get

784
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: this huge campaign and I did, and I was like,

785
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that they were thinking of me exactly,

786
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Like that's so kind and maybe not this time, but

787
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: to now know that that's possible, and then also having

788
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: the deep, deep belief that whatever is coming in replace

789
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: of that is even better because it's the hard part

790
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: to swallow that it's a really hard pill to swallow,

791
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: but like it's my favorite thing to believe is like

792
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: life just keeps getting better.

793
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: How do you balance that?

794
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: Because when you were saying that, I was thinking, I

795
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: every time I get an opportunity, I'm like, I can't

796
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: believe I got.

797
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: That, Like, but how do you how do you balance

798
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't.

799
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: Even know, Like how did I even get on their radar?

800
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: How does this person even know?

801
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Way?

802
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Like, are you sure they've got the right person?

803
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: So how do you balance that kind of the thought

804
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: process that I'm having versus changing it in to a

805
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: positive thing of like, it's not because you doubted yourself

806
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: that you can't believe it. I feel like I doubt myself,

807
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: and that's why I am surprised that, Oh wow, they

808
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: even thought about me.

809
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Yours is like, oh wow, I can't believe they thought

810
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: about me.

811
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: My belief is like I already believe in myself. I

812
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: already see myself, and so when people, you know, give

813
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: me an opportunity, I'm just like, oh great, you see

814
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: me too, Like that's my belief because I've worked so hard,

815
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: and so it's like I like, I truly love myself

816
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: because I've put through so much work, and so for me,

817
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: it's more like, oh, like you see it too, Like cool,

818
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: And that sounds I guess you could a lot of

819
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: people could look at that from like a negative, you know,

820
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: maybe conceited perspective. But it's it's a groundedness and an

821
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: unwaveringness in the potential of joy that I can bring

822
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: to others experiences.

823
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: And what gave you that?

824
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: Because I think this would be really helpful for people,

825
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: and I would love to know, like what would the

826
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: few things I know? Consistency is something we spoke about

827
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: being with yourself, building up confidence and trust in yourself.

828
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Your community is a reflection of you. So like if

829
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you have friends that are just amazing, yeah, by yourself

830
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: on the back, because you're a reflection of them. Like

831
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I have literally the coolest family like ever, and they

832
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: are all wanting to become legends in life, because why not?

833
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, Like that's always what I lean towards, is

834
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: just like why not, why not like be the top

835
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: level in this video game? You know? Why not? Like

836
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: it's like we're going to be you know, we're saying

837
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: goodbye either way, so you might as well give a

838
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And then also like learning that it's a

839
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: paradox where it's like I'm giving one hundred percent, but

840
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm also practicing non attachment. Yes, paradoxical once again, paradoxes. Yeah,

841
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: all truths through the half truths and so like it's

842
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: definitely the work ethic that you have, and that doesn't

843
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: have to be in work. Like for me, my trust

844
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: in myself comes from my ability to use my body.

845
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how deeply I can invest myself into

846
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: some thing if it wasn't for me being a ballerina

847
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: for the last ten years.

848
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: So you know, like lots of commitments, a lot of commitmency.

849
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: And maybe it might not be more of a physical

850
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: work ethic, it still proves to me that I can

851
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: do something one hundred percent exactly. So whatever it is,

852
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: find something you can do one hundred percent, Just show

853
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: yourself that you can do something. I never kind of

854
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: seep into E seep into everything else because everything is everything,

855
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: it's all connected, it's all true. You know, either everything

856
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: is sacred or none of it is. And I just

857
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: I decided that all of it is. So if I

858
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: can find things that I want to give a hundred

859
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: percent of myself into, things that are worth one hundred

860
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: percent of myself, come.

861
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: To me, yes, yeah, come to me. No, that's so true.

862
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: I do think that when you end up and picking

863
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: one area of your life, like okay, let's say your

864
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: whole life is shambles. Let's say every part of your

865
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: life right now. Let's just say every single part of

866
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: your life right now you do not feel is going well.

867
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I have this saying called hit rock bottom as fast

868
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: as possible. One of the girls in my communitiesaid that,

869
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: and I think that's so genius because I'm like, once

870
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: you're down on your knees, book.

871
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, stay there, but then there's also only upwards that

872
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: you can get right. That's what I like.

873
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Hit rock because it's only up in there. Just go, like,

874
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: stop trying to hold on to something that's not in flow.

875
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: I think people are so scared of pain when they're

876
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: experiencing more pain from trying not to be in pain

877
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: than actually just hit you know what I mean? Yeah,

878
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: just fall so that you can get back up exactly.

879
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: Go.

880
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

881
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: I think even if you just pick one area of

882
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: your life, like pick one thing in your life, like

883
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: you said, to be consistent with, to commit to, to.

884
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: Value, to really put you all into show yourself.

885
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Related to that body. Yes, health, whatever it is.

886
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sament with working. I said, okay, when I decided,

887
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: every single morning, every single day, I need movement in

888
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: my life and I've committed to that movement. I've realized

889
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: now I can't live without it. But it's also helped

890
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: me realize, like other people say to me, wow, you're

891
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: so like committed to having that in your life, and

892
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: I think, yes, if I can be committed to having

893
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: that in my life, I know I can channel that

894
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: same energy into this and in this and in this.

895
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: It's just whether I have made the choice and and

896
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: made it a priority in my life to do so.

897
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: Because the vibration is the same vibrating, like it's just

898
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, when we realize that nothing solid, everything's just

899
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: vibrating at different rates. Yeah, everything has a rhythm. Then

900
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: you realize that if you just get yourself into a

901
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: certain vibration, it's going to link into everything else in

902
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: your life. That also took weight off of my life.

903
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: There was a huge belief that I have for a

904
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: very long time, which is like you have to struggle

905
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: and work hard to be successful. Yes, that belief not fun,

906
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: don't believe it anymore. But there's a difference between hard

907
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: work and working hard, And for me that was huge

908
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: when I realized, like I actually really enjoy giving one

909
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: hundred percent of myself, but I don't like hard work.

910
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: Distinguishing that too, and then knowing where you would like

911
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: to work hard in your life, like really dedicate yourself

912
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: once again. Maybe the part of your life that you

913
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: were trying so hard to put the pieces together just

914
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: needed you to change your perspective completely, because it's not

915
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: about trying to shift your thoughts, it's about shifting completely

916
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: away from it. Like that's what manifestation talks about so much.

917
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: It's like you're not don't deny what is, like transmute

918
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: it into something higher like alchemize it, you know.

919
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I love when you talk about manifestation as well.

920
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: It also helps you detach from things from the results

921
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: of things because when you receive it, you understand that

922
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: it's given to you from a higher place, right, like

923
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: to be able to receive And again, I feel like

924
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: I've had goods and bads of feeling like a person

925
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: watching into my life. Being that person who's like, this

926
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like my life because it also makes me

927
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: feel so detached from what I receive and what I

928
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: don't get and what.

929
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: I want to say, like enjoying any of it.

930
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I.

931
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: Just appreciate it, but I then I'm also very aware

932
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: of like, and I think also, and I'm sure you

933
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: can relate to this. When you end up having being

934
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: around people who have had extreme success in different parts

935
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: of their life, or have in what other people eyes,

936
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: is everything that you could possibly ever want, you then

937
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: also see that being at that place doesn't bring that

938
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: joy and contentment that you actually are looking for unless

939
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: you are channeling it in that way and unless you

940
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: are detaching from the perception of it and the fruits

941
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: of it you're actually choosing to live through like the

942
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: essence of what you're receiving from it, Like what is

943
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: it actually doing for my spirit?

944
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: For my heart?

945
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: How am I being able to channel that and use

946
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: that in my offering to other people? And so I

947
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: think I've seen that so much where you can get

948
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: everything materially and still be so deficient internally, that I

949
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: am very aware of that, to the point where I

950
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: try to always remember that every single day, where I'm like, yes,

951
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: I love living here, and I love the luxuries that

952
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I've eventually managed to get in my life. But if

953
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: those things go away, is it going to affect my

954
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: heart or my spirit? No, it's not in any way

955
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: and so it's actually you can appreciate, you can have

956
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: so much deep gratitude for everything that you have, but

957
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: understand and there's a place for each thing, Like know

958
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: that material things will bring you material benefits. Know that

959
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: the spiritual things that you do will actually fuel and

960
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: nourish your heart. Know that love can fuel your heart,

961
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: but the material things will only bring material benefits exactly.

962
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: And that there's it's you have to learn that those

963
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: things that can be temporary and life.

964
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: Are fantastic too. They are the material stations, fantastic.

965
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Temporary, and so you're looking for permanent happiness with things

966
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: that are temporary, and that's where we end up kind

967
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: of losing our losing our way of putting energy into

968
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: the wrong things or or putting, yeah, our energy and

969
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: focus into the wrong.

970
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Things and expecting the wrong thing in return.

971
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's like relationship, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. There's this

972
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: quote that my god sister told me Ali. I'm not

973
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: sure where it's from, but she's pity the rich and famous,

974
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: as they have nothing to butt their head against. And

975
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: I think to an extent, it's like that is true.

976
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Like when you quote unquote have everything, there's nothing to

977
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: go up against, and so then you start creating these

978
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: things to go up against that it's what we call

979
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: drama and these things that don't really And so I'm

980
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: just grateful and I think that's why. You know, when

981
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: you build that work ethic with yourself, you get to

982
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: learn how to overcome and like rise and that rising

983
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: is the best high in life I've ever experienced. Like

984
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: that and thinking new thoughts. Love that, But that rise

985
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: is to me the epitome of success. Like I just

986
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: want to continue feeling that and then so letting go

987
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: of the idea of awards or these you know, different

988
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: levels in society, like all of that is wonderful because

989
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: I think they're good gauges on things and it's fun

990
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: to have. But that that is a benefit of the rising.

991
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: And I do find though that the more that you

992
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: end up getting in This is a notion that I've

993
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: heard through all my friends who as they are gaining

994
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: more abundance in their life, you have more of a

995
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: fear of losing it.

996
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: And that's something I've been dealing with the recently.

997
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have this like and I know even my

998
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: sister or my my friends who feel like, oh my gosh,

999
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: my life. I've got everything that I want in my life.

1000
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: I have my husband, I have my children, I have

1001
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: this life that feels almost too perfect. Something's going to

1002
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: go wrong, Like I feel that, and I've had conversations

1003
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: with people where they're literally crying, like this feels too good,

1004
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: this feels too good to be true, and I am

1005
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: so scared for my like that something is going to

1006
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: go wrong. I'm so scared of what I'm going to lose.

1007
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: And it's true, you do the more that you get

1008
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: in your life, and especially when it comes to relationships,

1009
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: when you feel like you've got, you know, the children

1010
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: that you've always dreamt of, let's say, or the partner

1011
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: that you've always dreamt of. The situation that if you've

1012
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: come from nothing and you end up manifesting all the

1013
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: things that you want in life, how do you detach

1014
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: from that fear of what if it all goes away?

1015
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: What if it all leaves me?

1016
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: I think like that's where really becoming at peace with death,

1017
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: because you can't live unless you face death. And there's

1018
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: this beautiful and it's like the idea is to stay

1019
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: in a constant departure while always arriving and it's pretty profound,

1020
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: but it's basically saying like as soon as we get,

1021
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: we lose, Like that's the rhythm of life, and it's scary,

1022
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: very scary, And it's what I'm seeing in my own

1023
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: life too, where I'm like, I've now accumulated such a

1024
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship, beautiful career, and beautiful team, and I'm like,

1025
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: this is so good to me. Yeah. True. So now

1026
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: once again my goal is getting out of my own

1027
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: way and showing up every single day, because it always

1028
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: just goes back to that. I think that's what's so

1029
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: beautiful of having an artist's heart, of like living in

1030
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: the moments where you're already nostalgic for them, Like being

1031
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: presently nostalgic, I think is one of the most beautiful

1032
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: feelings I've ever had in my life, and as much

1033
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: as it's scary, just like hate and love are but

1034
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: of the same coin, just a different degree. Same with

1035
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: fear and love, like it's showing that you care, you know,

1036
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: it's just the other side of love. Because really, like

1037
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: the idea of what I think society thinks of as

1038
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: hate is actually just complete absence, like mind of you're

1039
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: just not you don't even exist. That to me is

1040
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: the most accurate form of like what we think hate

1041
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: is like for me, hate is still a very fiery

1042
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: version of love and so and same with fear. It's

1043
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: like it's showing that you care. And so once again,

1044
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: that's where I always go back to, like documentation writing,

1045
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: like I love hearing my own thoughts, like I love writing,

1046
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: like I love recording things. I think we are tainted

1047
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: in this world today because everything's being documented, But are

1048
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: the right things being doctrine know.

1049
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: And Jennaline can actually do And I wanted to speak

1050
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 2: about something else that you said, But when it comes

1051
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: to journaling, I feel it takes a while to actually

1052
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: show up and strip back who like that person that

1053
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: you are writing as as just think you know, if

1054
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: you're writing as someone who thinks, just in case someone

1055
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: sees this, what am I writing?

1056
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: Just in case this is red one? Remember the full moments,

1057
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: and so if you.

1058
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: Are writing from a place offers you will never see

1059
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: your true self. But like stripping that back, it can

1060
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: be so scary to see what has been hiding in

1061
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: your heart and inside your mind and to really come

1062
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: to face with that. I think that's the only time

1063
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: when you get to that point, that's when you're actually starting,

1064
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: Like that is the point that you're starting, that's it.

1065
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: And what you were saying about fear and losing it,

1066
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: about showing up, I think whenever I think about that way,

1067
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: because well, you were on the few people that I

1068
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: have been able to talk about death with in that way.

1069
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: Me and you have had this conversation before every single

1070
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: day since I have left home. Before that, I would

1071
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: have never I never used to even think about death.

1072
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: I maybe thought about when my granddad passed away. That

1073
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: was when I was young, far away feel so like

1074
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: something that I can relate to. And then when I

1075
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: started studying the Vaders, and then when I moved away

1076
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: from home, it was that that point, which by the

1077
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: way was over seven years ago. Every single day since

1078
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: that time I moved, I've thought about death the moment

1079
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: that I wake up because I'm so far away from

1080
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: people because of my my The only reason I actually

1081
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: look at my phone is I'm like, let me just

1082
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: make sure everything's okay, because I'm not still yeah exactly,

1083
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: I haven't got any messages like there is all that

1084
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: I have had and there has not been one day

1085
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: And I tell people that and they're like, that's a

1086
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: bit morbid, and I'm like, no, it has been the

1087
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: most freeing thing because we don't prepare for the things

1088
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: that are the most inevitable in life. There are four

1089
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: things death, disease, birth, and something else which I'll find out.

1090
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: Creation or creativity or yes, maybe something.

1091
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Something along the lines of that, but definitely death. Death

1092
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: is the one thing that definitely death.

1093
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Death is one of the.

1094
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: Things which is so certain, right, but we shy away

1095
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: from it. Certain thing, it's the only certain thing. Yes,

1096
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: it's the only certain thing that's going to happen. But no,

1097
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 2: it's true, it is the only certain thing in life,

1098
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: but it is something that we try and move away from.

1099
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: And it has been the biggest blessing to have that

1100
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: in my mind, because now when things are happening with

1101
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: my family, when things are happening in my life that

1102
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: are unexpected or that I don't know whether I'm going

1103
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: to be the I detached from it so much, thinking,

1104
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: you know what, there is nothing I can do. I

1105
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: am this side of the world, there is nothing I

1106
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: can do. There's no physical way that I will know

1107
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: to be able to be there when anything happens. And

1108
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: the weird thing is when I let go of that

1109
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: attachment and that fear, I have been there for every

1110
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: single thing I needed to be there for. Somehow, when

1111
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't even supposed to be there, I ended up there.

1112
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: Whenever anybody in my family went through something, Whenever somehow

1113
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: I've ended up there. And that was when I had

1114
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: fully realized that I just have no control over this.

1115
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: And when I left and the thought of death, I

1116
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: remember when I realized that, yeah, right, I literally cannot

1117
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: control this in any way, and I surrendered to that.

1118
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, that took me pretty much crying

1119
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: every single week thinking about it. It took me going

1120
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: through a lot of emotions every single week of thinking

1121
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: about the possibilities of what can happen, because my mind

1122
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: can run away like that a lot, and actually going

1123
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: through that. I remember, me and Jay have spoken about

1124
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: this a lot where every time I think about certain

1125
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: in my life, I am very emotional.

1126
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: I cry, hence a good cry.

1127
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: I cry a lot, And every time I think about

1128
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: the possibilities or how I'm going to feel in those situations,

1129
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: I try and stop myself from thinking about it. And

1130
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: Jay would be like the only way we're going to

1131
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: be able to be okay at the point that these

1132
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: things happen is if we kind of live it through

1133
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: every single day slowly in our mind, like to keep

1134
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: again consistency in practice. If we start training our mind

1135
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: to understand that this is a natural part of life,

1136
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: this is what happens.

1137
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: It's just as beautiful. It's not the end.

1138
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: If you believe that it's not the end, and so

1139
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: constantly thinking about the people in your life, leaving the

1140
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: people in your life.

1141
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: May not be there forever.

1142
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, do you remember the Land Before Time? No idea,

1143
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: it's the Dinosaur movie. Oh yeah, yes, there was this

1144
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: one scene and it's where like Littlefoot like loses his

1145
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: mom and the uncle or whatever is like, that's the

1146
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: thing with life. We don't all end up in the

1147
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: end together. And I was like, once again, how heartbreaking

1148
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: that is, but also how beautiful that is. No, it

1149
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: is so beautiful, so beautiful.

1150
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: And the fear that you were talking about of, you know,

1151
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: when you said you just end up showing up and

1152
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: when we're talking about losing things. The only way I've

1153
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: been able to manage that fear is by giving my

1154
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: all to everybody that I love so deeply like to

1155
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: know that I have given my all to my mum,

1156
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: to my dad, to my grandma, whoever it is that

1157
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm feeling those like the uncertainties about I'm like, well,

1158
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: let me go one hundred percent into those relationships. Let

1159
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: me make every single year the best, better and better.

1160
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: With our relationship.

1161
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: And so I think that's actually how I've lost the fear,

1162
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: by knowing that I will have no guilt after they leave,

1163
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: by knowing that I have had that best interaction with them,

1164
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: the best possible years that I could have with them,

1165
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: to like, yeah, to have that, to be able to

1166
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: nourish that and know that stops my fear. And of

1167
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: course it still brings sadness, but the fear aspect is

1168
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: something which I think is debilitating, whereas sadness is something

1169
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: which I don't find sadness stabilitating in myself. I feel

1170
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: like it's something that is an emotion I can release.

1171
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: But fear is something that can actually stop you from

1172
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: being or doing. And I think fear of even death

1173
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: can stop you from getting close to someone. Fear of

1174
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: losing someone can stop you from harnessing a relationship with someone.

1175
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: Because you just don't want to face them. You don't

1176
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: want to face the death, not them, but the death.

1177
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: The death.

1178
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: And I used to not call my at the beginning

1179
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: when I used to miss my family. And this is

1180
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: such a minor example, but just to give you context,

1181
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: Like when I used to miss my parents, or I

1182
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: used to miss someone and I was upset about something,

1183
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't call them because I didn't want

1184
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 2: I almost wanted to distance myself from it to prepare,

1185
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: so I could prepare, but also so I could like

1186
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: pretend like it wasn't a thing, and I didn't want

1187
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: them to know I was upset. I didn't want to

1188
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: address the fact that it was something I was dealing with,

1189
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: and so distancing myself from them I thought made the

1190
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: pain easier, but it obviously doesn't. It's it's but I

1191
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 2: think that addressing the showing up is really what helped

1192
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: me get over that fear.

1193
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you know, once you really start to

1194
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: think about death, you start to see it everywhere. You know,

1195
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: like every day there's a rebirth and a death. Like

1196
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: that's the beautiful thing about life. We see it in nature,

1197
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: we see it in our animals, we see it in relationships,

1198
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: even we see it from a spiritual sense too, So

1199
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I think when you're not afraid of it, you can

1200
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: see that it has such a profound purpose and that

1201
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: we need it in order to create what we've created here,

1202
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: to really have that.

1203
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: Like I feel like yolo is a term that's used

1204
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 2: way too much, but to honestly live that, I would

1205
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: hear you no, no, but I find it.

1206
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: I find it such a like.

1207
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: It's a term which we use very loosely. Yeah, but

1208
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: it's something which actually, if you think about it, but

1209
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: that means you show up. You show up one hundred

1210
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: percent every single day.

1211
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: My friend he was at a party.

1212
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but like the essence of it, you know,

1213
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: it's something I know.

1214
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: I know.

1215
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: So my friend he was at a party and he

1216
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: was talking to this guy and he was he was

1217
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: telling me about this story, and he was basically saying,

1218
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: you know, I felt guilty, you know in those moments

1219
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: where you were just kind of like saying nothing just

1220
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: fill the air and you're just like, I don't even

1221
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: want to listen to me right now, like why am

1222
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: I speaking? And you know, they finally end the conversation,

1223
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: and then a week later that that guy dies in

1224
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: a motorcycle crash, and he was like, if I would

1225
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: have known that, like I was taking up some of

1226
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: his last moments on earth, I would have fucking mouthself

1227
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: silly and like made sure to have either an authentic

1228
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: connection with him or like let him go and do

1229
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: that with someone else. But it really does, like once again,

1230
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: death is the biggest perspective shift of ever I've ever

1231
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: experienced in my life. Like I wouldn't be who I

1232
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: am today if I didn't experience death and such a

1233
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: sad way.

1234
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: And that's why I think I just want to like,

1235
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: like we're talking about we're talking.

1236
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: About death, but sadness isn't sad, it's beautiful. Like I

1237
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: am so in love with sadness in the sense where

1238
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: it's like it shows how much we care and it's

1239
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: so beautiful.

1240
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've had to lent to embrace that

1241
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: so much.

1242
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: And again, this is part of why I wanted to

1243
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: do this, is because I feel things so deeply and

1244
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: I am very emotional with how I feel them. But

1245
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: I feel I feel From a young age, I suppressed

1246
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: it a lot, and so when I started understanding myself

1247
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: better and when I started feeling more comfortable in my

1248
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: own skin. It slowly started showing up in places I

1249
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting me to, so I would end up crying

1250
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: when I when I really didn't want to, just like stub.

1251
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: Your toe, stabbing my toe? Yeah, what is that? Yeah?

1252
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: And the more I felt I was connected to myself,

1253
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: the more I was in tuning my emotions, and the

1254
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: more I was able to feel in control.

1255
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, yeah, it's never fun like having that

1256
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: anxiety attack, like right before you're supposed to shut up,

1257
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: because you know you're like, oh no, there I go,

1258
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: and you're like trying to reel yourself in like you're fishing.

1259
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: That's never fun as well. That's why I like when

1260
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: it comes up, if you can feel it, feel it,

1261
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: you know.

1262
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: I love what's your way of release?

1263
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Nethwork?

1264
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: You'll like if you to say you're going the most.

1265
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: So it's what I know the most. Yeah, breathwork it is.

1266
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of variations of it, and

1267
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I fear when people after they hear this, they're going

1268
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: to google and some girls gonna go like and do

1269
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: like some weird breath it's.

1270
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 3: The haden, the primal breath work.

1271
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: Well, the I I got trained by this guy. It's

1272
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: very simple. It's just breathing seventy percent into the lowest

1273
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: part of your belly, thirty percent to your chest and

1274
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: release and you can go as fast and intense or

1275
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: as slow as you want. And what's really cool is

1276
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: it's similar to meditation. Like you get to a point

1277
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: where you know, sometimes you already feel amazing and you're

1278
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: going into breathwork and you're just you barely do it

1279
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: because you're just like, I feel grounded right now. And

1280
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: that was the whole purpose of it. So I'm going

1281
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: to listen to this music and just vibe, or you're

1282
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: going into it just being like I gotta do it whatever.

1283
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: It's an active meditation. That's why I liked it because

1284
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: it gives me something to do with my body, which

1285
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: I love and prefer. And I'll have this crazy cathartic

1286
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: experience and I'll start crying and so much comes out

1287
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well, that was a tusay I

1288
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: did not experience, yes, but like I guess that was

1289
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. And I think that's that's what's so

1290
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: also beautiful. Weirdly enough with trauma, where it's like it

1291
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: comes out in these moments, and it feels so good

1292
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: when you accept that it's coming, because you're like, I'm alive,

1293
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: Like this feels so good. I care, this feels so good.

1294
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I loved. This feels so good.

1295
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think you're right.

1296
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: When we end up trying to we end up trying

1297
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: to feel so numb that we try not to feel

1298
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: at all. And there's so much in life because of everything.

1299
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: I get that, so do I. I get that because

1300
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: there's so much to feel.

1301
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: You hear negative things all the time. You're hearing so

1302
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: much pain in the world, and so it's easier to

1303
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: be numb. But it's but you can't grow being numb.

1304
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: You have to feel to be able to move. And again,

1305
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 2: like I love the thing of emotions being energy in motion.

1306
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: It's like you're meant to be releasing, you're meant to

1307
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: be moving through And actually breath is if you think

1308
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: about breath is life and breath there's also the way

1309
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: that you control your emotions. If you think about when

1310
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: you get sad or angry or anything, your breath changes

1311
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: with it. And in the same way, when you're able

1312
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: to control your breath, will you use your breath in

1313
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: the right way, it can help you to either suppress

1314
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: or release emotions.

1315
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I learned that actually in acting because I had a

1316
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: scene TMI, but it was not a scene that I

1317
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: survived in literally, and so I had to go through

1318
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: that process of dying and you know, I'm doing the

1319
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: short breaths and I started to go into a panic. Yeah,

1320
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: and yes, Like it is so crazy how the body

1321
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: is in so much more control than we realize in

1322
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: that sense where like the breath can really completely change

1323
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: your emotional state. It is a profound even.

1324
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: Just taking three deep breaths.

1325
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Every time I think about how I'm feeling or if

1326
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting overwhelmed, I'm like, take three deep breaths, and

1327
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: it changes my entire day by doing those three breaths.

1328
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so simple that you're just like every day,

1329
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: you're just like dumb, dumb. Remind is that you need

1330
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: every single day? Right, Okay, so you are a breathwork person.

1331
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: Do you cry a lot?

1332
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: Or is that not you do cry? Okay? Well, okay,

1333
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: the thing was is like I didn't, and then I

1334
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: was proud of that because I was like, I don't know,

1335
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: and then I started to get jealous of like my

1336
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: friends who are so in tune with everything and could

1337
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: just cry it like watching their friend perform or just

1338
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: or just watching a children.

1339
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: Wait, does this mean I don't care as much?

1340
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 1: Because yeah, so then surprisingly, like the tools like breath

1341
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: work or like yoga or meditation or writing, That's what

1342
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: started to open my vessel up. And so now I

1343
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: make it, weirdly enough a priority, Like any time and

1344
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm about to cry, I'm like, bring it,

1345
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: bring out. I don't bring it like I'm ready, I'm here,

1346
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's I'll play that music for you. But yeah,

1347
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean I want it because you know, selfishly as

1348
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: an actress, like I want to be able to access that.

1349
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: But also it's like you see that with children, you know,

1350
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: then I feel like crying. They're like they just they

1351
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: just go and I envy that, and I'm like, I

1352
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: want to be able to do that. So when I

1353
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: need to show up, I can, and I don't have

1354
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: this fear of the worst parts of myself showing showing

1355
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: at the wrong time. Because we are ruled by what's

1356
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: buried and remaining in us, in the deepest core, and

1357
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: so bringing those up in a space that's on your

1358
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: own time and safe is the key to really being

1359
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: in power of yourself and like controlling your mind instead

1360
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: of it controlling you.

1361
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, meditation was definitely that space for me.

1362
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: That's probably where I first started feeling most comfortable crying

1363
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: because you're on your own, You're getting into a deepest

1364
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: space by yourself. And also, I mean listening to John

1365
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: v I, there's a part of her and giving context

1366
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: to everyone. Janavie is one of my closest friends, but

1367
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: she's also a meditation singer.

1368
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: She's a gift to life.

1369
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: Her voice will just and again because I personally feel

1370
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: the reason her voice hits so deeply is because she's

1371
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: in alignment. She works to be in alignment all the time,

1372
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: and so her voice, you hear one note coming out

1373
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: and it hits your heart to the car where you

1374
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: are just pouring out all the things that you have

1375
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: kept suppressing.

1376
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: One lyric like I don't want to go around anymore,

1377
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel this thing, Yeah, no more,

1378
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to go around no more. Like I'm

1379
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: good exactly.

1380
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: And when you end up sitting by yourself, like I

1381
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: feel like that's another for anyone who finds it difficult

1382
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: to release emotion, spend fifteen minutes just sitting by yourself

1383
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: and listening to what's happening in your body. Just spend

1384
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. Spend ten minutes a day doing that thing

1385
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: for weeks.

1386
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Is good enough to be honest, especially with the people

1387
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: in like Ellen's Yeah, cities and whatever. But it's like

1388
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: that happening all you.

1389
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: Like, start there.

1390
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: If you're finding yourself difficult, finding it difficult to release

1391
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: that emotion, spend ten minutes with yourself every day with

1392
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: no one else around, and see what comes up.

1393
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I found too is really a way I

1394
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: trick myself is I stopped timing myself and I just

1395
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: as soon as I wake up, I go out to

1396
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: the balcony and I just sit and almost that like

1397
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: dream sleepy state. And so I don't say it's perfect

1398
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: because there's no timer, so I'm not trying to like

1399
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: complete an X amount of time. So it could be

1400
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: a nine minutes I'm there, I could be there for

1401
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. I have no idea. And that is like

1402
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: a really good trick for me, because as soon as

1403
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: I get my coffee and I start moving, it's it's

1404
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: game over. I'm going to have to do it. A

1405
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: breath work bring changes into a different mode, a different mode.

1406
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: But right when you wake up, it's just like get yourself,

1407
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: just sit down, do nothing like that's it. That's it,

1408
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: because trying to go from doing stuff, doing something to

1409
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: doing nothing is really hard. But when you're in that

1410
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: waking moments of life.

1411
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: It's the perfect.

1412
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: It's perfect to trick yourself.

1413
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: Just oh my god, I could talk to you about

1414
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: so much stuff, but I feel like I've taken off

1415
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: so much of your time.

1416
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: Alreaday, but wait, I wanted to ask you.

1417
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: So basically, I've categorized criers into like I think like

1418
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: six categories.

1419
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: So I want you to tell me. I want you

1420
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: to tell me what kind.

1421
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: Of crier you are and ideally give us your best

1422
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: version of your cry.

1423
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

1424
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: So there's one which is a loud, ugly crier, which

1425
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: is then there's the breathless, which is just that's my sister, Okay.

1426
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: Then there's the snifflin s nutty.

1427
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: The one who's kind of like just blubbery and like

1428
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: all over the place there's like water coming from the eyes,

1429
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: from the nose hole, every hole is just weeping. Then

1430
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: there's the high pitch, you know when you suddenly like

1431
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: go five pitches. So there's a high pitch. There's that

1432
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm not crying, you're crying. I have something in my

1433
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: eye crier. And then the last one is the silent

1434
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: crier in a bathroom. Nobody knows.

1435
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: You come out, the eyes are puffed, but still nothing

1436
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: has happened. I'm the last one. Well not like a

1437
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: weird I just I'm not loud, like I have like

1438
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: the one dramatic tear and then everything starting out but

1439
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: see I'm ridiculous because I'm like, oh, that's good, you know.

1440
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's that's good for being an actor. That

1441
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: one dramatic. Like I'm so self aware that I'm like,

1442
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: you're such a little ship. But I'm yeah, like it

1443
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: starts out as it's the silent crying, silent like I

1444
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: I just I love the feeling of the tears coming down.

1445
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: It feels like it's washing things away. So I just

1446
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: I love to just sit there. And then.

1447
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: She's like.

1448
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you're okay.

1449
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: I thought you would be a pretty crier. That's so

1450
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: annoying about you, honestly, like patting them away.

1451
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely cry, but it's it's not like

1452
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: snotty or anything, but souousy knows Alexis is the silent,

1453
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: beautiful crier that you would always expect her to be.

1454
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: I guess I talked through it. Yeah, yeah, but that

1455
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: makes a difference. I'm like, but the physical you used

1456
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: to look cute doing it. Basically, I think I'm a

1457
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: pretty good yeah, Like I don't know, I don't know,

1458
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty cute. Cry. See this is this is the

1459
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: downside of Like it's being aware of like everything as

1460
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: a tool, like every emotion as a tool. We have

1461
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror when you're crying to be like, okay.

1462
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: Is that is that right?

1463
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Exactly? Like when I laugh? Like is that an authentic laugh?

1464
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: What's that? Like? How did how did I get here?

1465
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: Yourself?

1466
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: Actually? Yeah, well when I first went to an acting class,

1467
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I've been learning about this ship for years. Guys, like,

1468
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: did you just make us meditate? Like what are we

1469
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: doing right now? Self awareness? Like I got this in

1470
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: the bag, Like it was just more so the memory

1471
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: the lines that I was just not excited for. When

1472
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: was the last time that you cried. When was it? Oh?

1473
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: Is that embarrassing if I said, on the way here,

1474
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: I found this like I had just one teer. I

1475
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: can't there's this song. I give us no idea what

1476
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: it's it's from. It's from like some Indian tribe. I

1477
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: don't know. But you know the movie Brave the Redhead

1478
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: where she's like running on her horse. It's kind of

1479
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: like that where it's like no, no, no, no, no

1480
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: no no. And I was driving through the canyon like, oh,

1481
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: I want a tambourine. I'm so happy that you cried

1482
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: all the way. I just I love like feeling those

1483
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: like beautiful moments to the extreme, you know, and I

1484
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: and that's I think, what the What's I love so

1485
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: much about sadness is the most beautiful moments of my

1486
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: life have sadness in them. And it's like wow, you know.

1487
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, nothing in this world is fully anything, right, Like

1488
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: there's always what you're saying, a juxtaposition of there's extreme

1489
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: goodness and extreme whatever. I didn't even like to say

1490
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: badness or bad but there's always that.

1491
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: It's like heart and cold, like, yes, how can you

1492
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: define where cold is?

1493
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: You can't define it?

1494
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: You can't you can't define it. It's just a different

1495
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: degree of the same thing and not And I.

1496
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Think the important thing about that is not labeling it

1497
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: as being something that is bad or good, like having

1498
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 2: what you said, like crying is beautiful, sadness is beautiful.

1499
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 2: All those things that we have been trained and conditioned

1500
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: to believe are not good things are actually the things

1501
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: that we really need to come into our own.

1502
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course, like once you start, when you

1503
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: first start on that journey, it feels out of control.

1504
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of people feel.

1505
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't understand because when I first started

1506
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: to actually acknowledge everything and feel my emotions, I was

1507
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: just I was terrified that this was what I was

1508
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: going to be for the rest of your life. But

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Speaker 1: you then have this wonderful relationship with your emotions. I

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: didn't even know it was possible. Yeah, I'm just like,

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: this is wonderful. I want to because it's I want to,

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: I want to feel, and it's proof that I care

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: and I want to care. And I think that's the

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: connection there is, like, you know, like I feel because

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: I want to care, because I want to see growth

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01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: and evolution and our society and so to not feel

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: would be the biggest crime in my opinion, But it's

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: also hard, and I think there is a place for

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01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: all of it. The compartmentalization, disassociation. I think there's places

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01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: for all of those things because those are tactically balanced. Yeah,

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 1: and like that was also a way of your body

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: protecting yourself.

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: Definitely, there was a time and you need protection from that.

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: I think about that too, Like I've figured out mechanisms

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: of when I don't feel safe to actually cry, or

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: when I don't feel like it's the right environment, or

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01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: when you just have to be a boss and you

1528
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: need to cry and get on with life, Like there

1529
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: was a time and place to do that, but then

1530
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: knowing that there's something in you that you need to

1531
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: process for later, like putting a bookmark there to think, Okay,

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 2: this is what triggered me.

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Let's get into it later, but right now, we need

1534
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: to get this done exactly. And then that's like you

1535
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: having a beautiful relationship with your child self and your

1536
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: adult self being like okay, baby, like I got you.

1537
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: We'll handle this later because like clearly that triggered the

1538
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: hell out of you. Yeah, but we have to go

1539
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: and show up for X, Y and Z today and

1540
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: then when we come home we can process it exactly.

1541
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: And usually even the second that you have that conversation,

1542
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: it'll show up when it needs to because then like

1543
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: your inner child isn't screaming at you that you're ignoring her.

1544
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: She trusts that you're going to show up. So it's

1545
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: like all the different versions exactly. You don't suddenly have

1546
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: outbursts because no, because it's like, oh, I hear you.

1547
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: I think once again, like parenting advice is life advice,

1548
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: it's also personal like self awareness. It's growth, like how

1549
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: we raise kids I think is a reflection of also

1550
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: just like how we self teach ourselves and how we

1551
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: self regulate ourselves. And so I've always been fascinated with

1552
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: like parenting and techniques and that because to do that

1553
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: for yourself and for your friends, Like sometimes I'm the mom,

1554
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: sometimes the Alley's the mom, like we trade off. Sometimes

1555
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm the dad, like we don't know. And so being

1556
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: able to put on different shoes I think really is

1557
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: adaptability is the greatest skill on this planet. Adaptability and

1558
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: being able to Like once again we were talking about

1559
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: in the beginning, like being able to healthily, not from

1560
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: like a position of like need be able to insert

1561
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: ourselves in a way that lifts the experience up, not

1562
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: like molding to the people please their mentality. But it's like,

1563
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: what part of myself can can complete this moment? We

1564
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: have infinite parts of ourselves, Like it's literally infinite, which

1565
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: is fantastic to know because then you know, with you know,

1566
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: things like podcasts and stuff. I don't fear that, you know.

1567
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: I also there is something I've learned too, is like

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: if you don't keep giving out the information, God, I'm

1569
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna stop giving it to you. Oh yeah, you have

1570
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: to like keep the moment them going. Every time I

1571
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: learned something, I'm like, I don't even know if I'm

1572
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: worthy to say this, but I'm a throw it out

1573
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: there anyways, just becaucause it's like, come to me. I'm

1574
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,919
Speaker 1: not afraid that that's the only thing I get. I'm

1575
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: able to teach. And then that's where you like empty

1576
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: your your cup and you get filled again.

1577
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think sometimes we get scared of I know,

1578
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: for me, I'm like, but wait, what if I don't

1579
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: have any more to give?

1580
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: Is that feeling?

1581
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 3: You know, that feeling? What if I don't have any

1582
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 3: more to share.

1583
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: So these are my things, and this is what I've learned,

1584
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: and then you and then in but that it is,

1585
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: it is all ego. You end up collecting all these

1586
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: things that you believe are yours, but none of it

1587
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: was yours in the.

1588
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: First and then it becomes stagnant. And then the emotion.

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: I think with the same with our bodies, momentum creates momentum.

1590
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: It's the same with our wisdom and information, and like

1591
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: everything moves and fluxes and changes, and so letting that

1592
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: be the way you receive and give information and knowledge

1593
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: and wisdom is ultimately, once again, how you paradoxically learn

1594
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: how to be the teacher and.

1595
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: The student, the student all at the same time, all

1596
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: at the same time. I think if you if you're

1597
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: a teacher, you are never giving up being a student.

1598
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: Never wait, and actually when you give up being a student,

1599
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: you stop being in the teacher.

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, po, exactly.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, I've learned so much from you, and I'm so

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: grateful that you came on. Thank you so much, and

1603
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: you're just amazing, and I'm so excited that you all

1604
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: got to hear from Alexis. It makes me really happy

1605
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: to share her with you all, and thank you so

1606
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: much all for listening. If you made it this far,

1607
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not surprised because she's amazing, but thanks

1608
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: for paying.

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: Up with me. I feel like there wasn't a breath

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: in between, like we were Gilmore girls, just going back

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,879
Speaker 1: and forth really.

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Speaker 2: Fast, and that's so nice. That's why I want to

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: have I always like I'm planning to only have friends.

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: On conversations, not interviews.

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: Yes, to just have genuine, meaningful conversations, talk about things

1616
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: that we find difficult, bring out whatever it is that

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: we need to cry, laugh, do everything, and yeah, thank

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01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: you for listening to you next week.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmmmmmmmmm