1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Time has not 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: healed the pain of the family and friends of Chase Masner, 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Young Iraqi Warbecker and who disappeared without a trace. Despite 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: some intense searching, a few clues have been found. We 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: have a missing veteran, We have a friend, a son, 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: a father, and our main goal has always been to 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: bring him home and that emotion will never end until 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: he's brought back home. And I personally served in the 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Guidefix Army with Cape Master went missing from Kinnethaw, Georgia. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: We want him located when we want the truth come out. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Three years a fit and has been missing. Please please 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: do a follow up on that and dig deeper and 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: see if we can't bring him home. You know the 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: saying no folder left behind. The folder has been left behind. 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm mom and my question is very simple and to 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: the point. What happened to my son and where it 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: is my son? The days have turned into weeks, the 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: weeks have turned into months. Tick talk. As a mother 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: stands by with no news about her son, can you 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: imagine that if you were in her place? God forbid? 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: As Cobb County Police now tell her they don't even 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: have any evidence foul plays involved. How can that be? 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: He disappears into thin air, leaving behind a cell phone, 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: credit cards, a t M and what just disappears with 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: the shoes on his feet doesn't make sense to me. 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Nobody saw anything. I'm I'm calling foul on that whole 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: theory because I believe there's more to the story of 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Chase Masner than has been uncovered. Welcome to Crime Stories. 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: with us. Of course, with me Alan and special guests 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Lee Egan. But first let's take a call. Go to 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the call Plase. Alan. Hi. My name is Jennifer Sullivan 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: and I was in the Army with Chase. I was 34 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: stationed with him at Fort Riley, Kansas. We were brainstorming 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: on the Facebook group and had a few questions and 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: somebody with a machine that ceased through walls and concrete, 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, go to Brad's house and check in the yard. 38 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: Because my understanding is he poured concrete the next day 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: to make a new patio um and he did that himself. 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: For my understanding, what was the reason that Amanda and 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Corbin what what does Amanda and Corbin say? Read the 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: reason they say that Chase cannot be found in Georgia. 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Mind you, both of them have said Chase will not 44 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: be found in Georgia. Corbin has even said that all 45 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: the search efforts in Georgia are in vain. That to 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: be warned that we've been told, Um, did Chase take 47 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: a cell phone charger to Brad? Just kind of one 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: of those questions, whereas, could there be more evidence somewhere 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: or perhaps a wedding ring, things that might be found 50 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: with metal detector, if we could look perhaps what time 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: Chase went to sleep at Brad, because that's been not 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: been mentioned. As well as there was a story about 53 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Case getting upset and throwing his clothes all over a 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: parking lot and then them getting back into um I'm 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: in this struck or car I mean, and being milbowy. 56 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the whole story on that, but that's 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: another story that's floated since the beginning of this. Well, 58 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: that's a lot. Let's try to take those one by 59 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: one if we can. First of all, there are many 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: techniques by which if someone were buried, say or hidden 61 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: for instance, in a wall, that they could be found 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: by trying sent dogs would pick that up. But um, 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: as far as someone being buried under cement, that would 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: require a warrant for police to go and start digging 65 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: to try to locate their body, and you've gotta have 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: PC probable cause for that. That does not lay the 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: blame at the friend's house. Remember there was an entire 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: roofing crew there at home when the friend leaves to 69 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: go on his errand and comes back and allegedly with 70 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Chase Masner's phone. So they have to get a warrant 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to go digging and looking. But I don't think that's 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: entirely out of the question since apparently nothing has been found. Uh, 73 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: it's like a needle in a haystack as far as 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the police are concerned. But again, joining me is investigative 75 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: reporter Alan Duke and Crime Online reporter and editor Lee 76 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Egans joining us. Lee first to you, I think that 77 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: police should go forward with a dig. That's the last 78 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: place that Chase was really known to have been. Nobody 79 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: ever saw him leave the home. It reminds me of 80 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: a case we we just covered on Crime Online, and 81 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: that is of the Six Flags employee. The dad talks 82 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: to the wife on the phone and says, hey, I'm 83 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna go cook dinner. Um, the wife gets home, the 84 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: chicken is done, everything's right there except him. He's gone, 85 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: and the surveillance camera show nobody have to ever left 86 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: the home. So we have no evidence Chase Master ever 87 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: left the home? Do we? Why not do a dig? 88 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: The thing I'm getting is, um, the police officers need, 89 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: as you said, probable cause, which they're saying they don't 90 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: have yet. They don't have enough evidence. And now their speculation, 91 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: um that he may not have even went to Brad's house, 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: but he didn't get that far, that they went somewhere 93 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: else and something happened to Chase. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa 94 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: whoa wa back it up, back it up. For those 95 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: of you just joining us, I've got Alan and Lee 96 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: with me, and we're picking apart, piece by piece the 97 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: disappearance of a handsome young man with the world in 98 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: front of him, Chase Master. He comes home from serving 99 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: his country any rock, comes home to his wife and 100 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: his two little girls, and suspiciously just disappears out of 101 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: the blue. The one carrying the torch is his mother, 102 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadina, and she has visited with us and is 103 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: desperate for answers to find her son. She's not giving up. 104 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: And you know what, neither of mine. Now when you 105 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: say they, Um, we're talking about Chase Masner had a 106 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: spat with his wife, Amanda, and he was going over 107 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: to stay at his friend's home. He had had a 108 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: hard time re entering civilian life and had looked and 109 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: looked and looked for an appropriate job. Finally just takes 110 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: a job working at a quick trip to make money 111 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: for his family until he can land his quote dream job. 112 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: So he goes to stay with a friend, friend, Brad 113 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: as I call him the friend. Brad says he came 114 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: over Lee Egan, That's what he says. Um. But then again, 115 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: he could have. He couldn't have. Nobody really knows. It's 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: just like he vanished. Um. The thing is, the roofers 117 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: were there the entire day. Nobody left, I mean, you know, 118 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: back and forth. But there was always someone there working 119 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: on the roof and no one saw him. No one 120 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: saw him even once. I wonder if the roofers came 121 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: in the home, like to use the bathroom, where to 122 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: get some cold water, because nobody seemed to see him 123 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: at all, in or out. Um. Okay, So That leaves 124 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: us with a question. Lee and Alan camp police based 125 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: on the fact that has last no location. According to 126 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the friend Brad was there. Nobody ever saw him leave, 127 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: So how do I know he didn't fall victim to 128 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: fail play right there in the home? How do I 129 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: know that? And again this is not about the friend Brad. 130 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: The friend Brad left the home according to him, and 131 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: there was a construction crew there. I don't know who 132 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: these people are. I don't know who else may have 133 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: come to that home. So this, you know, this is 134 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: wide open as to who may or may not have 135 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: been in the home. Now, what about the question from 136 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: the caller as to why he was at was that 137 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: she wanted to know why was at Amanda's home? I 138 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: think the question was why was Trey at Amanda's Why 139 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: was Amanda's mother? Why was she at Amanda's house? That 140 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: was the question. Late, what do you know? From what 141 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I know? UM? And I don't want to throw accusations 142 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: out UM. Supposedly there was a text from Trey's mother 143 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: to one of the ladies UM on team Chase. Ester 144 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: is Trey, Trey is Amanda's mother, and Amanda is Chase's wife, 145 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: and shortly after, like within a day after Chase disappeared, 146 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Amanda allegedly called her mother to come over and completely 147 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: clean the house up, change all the sheets, wash all 148 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: the clothes, et cetera. And for what reason, We're not sure. 149 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, Lee, don't you change your sheets routinely? Yes? 150 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: But I don't. Okay, don't you wash her clothes? Do 151 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: it yourself? Well, I mean she's raising two she's raising 152 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: two little girls, you know. In her defense, I think 153 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: she's working and raising kids. You know, if I could 154 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: call him my mom, which I plead guilty too, okay, 155 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: have called her in uh to help me? I would. 156 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: So I'm not reading a lot into that unless this 157 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: was the first and only time she called her over 158 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: to do house cleaning. But exactly is it truly? Is it? 159 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Is it true that at some point either the friend 160 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Brad or the Amanda wife said, oh, you won't find 161 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: him in Georgia? Did that happen? Yes? It did, um. 162 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: According to text messages that I saw, it was his 163 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: own father said that. His own father said, you're looking 164 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: at the wrong place. You will not find him here. 165 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: And then Amanda said that as well. I don't remember 166 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: her exact words on text, but it was something to 167 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: the same effect. So Chase his own dad said that, yes, 168 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: well again not to play devil's advocate because this she 169 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: doesn't really fit for me. That I'm taking the defense position. 170 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: But I've got to analyze the evidence truthfully and honestly 171 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in order to use it. I mean, if they believed 172 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: he took a powder and left, they can very well 173 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: be saying, oh, he's long gone, You're not going to 174 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: find him around here. Was it like that or was 175 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: it in a more nefarious tone or what? I don't 176 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: really know it was. It was all in text messaging. Um. 177 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: The dad's text was really jumble. He kept skipping back 178 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: and forth, quoting Bible verses and saying other things. But 179 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the main thing was and he was talking to Stephanie 180 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: at their texting Stephanie at the time, the mother and 181 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: basically saying that she's, you know, pretty much out of 182 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: control and she's never going to find him, and if 183 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: she continues to get on social media, he'll never tell 184 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: her where he is. You mean, who will never tell who? Where? 185 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Who is? Corbin. The father texted Stephanie and told her 186 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: that if she doesn't stop posting on social media about 187 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: finding Chase. He will never tell her where chases he 188 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: who the father will never tell her where Chase is correct? 189 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, so he intimates he knows, yeah, he yeah, 190 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: he kind of insinuates it. Well. Can I ask what 191 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: police are doing with that information? If anything? Enough? From 192 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: what I hear, not much. Um. They kind of march 193 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: him off his um mentally unstable. UM. And then the 194 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: last I heard, they're still working on it. They have 195 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: new information that they're not going to disclose. UM. But 196 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the case is still active. Right. I heard about the 197 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: new information, the new secret information that they won't tell 198 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: anybody about that they're working on and they want to 199 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: keep it secret. Okay, okay, all right, let's move on 200 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: from there. Let's hear the next Can you hook me 201 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: up to the next car please? I don't know him 202 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: or his family, but I've been following this case since 203 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: the few days since he after he went missing. UM. 204 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: If you other questions I have? And this was all 205 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: this dissolved and put um various missing pages of Facebook 206 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: for him throughout the time. But shortly after some people 207 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: talked with Brad, the guy that Chase was last known 208 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: to be with, and Brad said that he was holding 209 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: a barbecue for the roofing contractors that was working working 210 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: on his house. On the afternoon Chase went missing. He 211 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: was um holding the barbecue for the rooping contractors and 212 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: for Chase and Um he took Brad's Chase his phone 213 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: with him when he went to Atlanta, so Chase, so 214 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Chase wouldn't leave. I mean, how many people host a 215 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: barbecue for a roofing contractors that are just working on 216 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: the roof, And how many people host a barbecue for 217 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: a flim who's in the midst of a separation from 218 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: his wife and children. Why would Brad take Chase his 219 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: phone so we didn't leave? Why would Brad care of 220 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: Chase left? It was just providing a place for him 221 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: to crash for a night. Why did Brad aske to 222 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: put rolled carpet in the roof was on site dumpster 223 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: that would be moved in a day or so? When 224 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: when Brad had a dumps through of his own on 225 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: the property where he was putting in renovated materials of 226 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the down I mean, this is all put out. They're 227 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: very evident from the beginning, though I don't understand why 228 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: there's just been one Detective fourteen on this all along. 229 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, the tip line 230 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: is seven seven zero four nine nine three nine three 231 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: one as the cob County Crimes Against People Unit. Lee 232 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: Detective Chris Twiggs seven seven oh four nine nine three 233 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: nine three one. I think she's got a lot of 234 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: good points and I want to go back to Lee 235 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: Egan joining me. Lee, Um, did you say earlier before 236 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: we answered those questions that there is a lot of 237 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: speculation that he never was even at the friend Brad's house. Yes, 238 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: it's known that he was with Brad Um, but it's 239 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: not known if they actually made it back to his house. 240 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Some people are speculating that Brad saying that to cover 241 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: whatever happened in between the time he picked him up 242 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: and Chase went missing, that something could have happened. Wait 243 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: a minute, I thought, where did the wife Amanda drop him? 244 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: He From what I remember, she dropped him off at 245 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: his job qt UM and then Brad picked him up 246 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: shortly after. Well, was that not on surveillance video at 247 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: the quick trip the drop? I don't know. I'm not sure, man. 248 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: It seems like she may have dropped him off at 249 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: the side of the building. Um, I think I'm not 250 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: really sure on that though. Oh just out of view 251 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: of the surveillance cameras. A five thousand dollar reward is 252 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: being offered for the whereabouts of Chase Masner seven seven 253 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: three one. And before we answer those questions from our 254 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: second caller, I want to thank our sponsors, Simply Safe 255 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: for being with us today and making our quest possible. 256 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: People every day think they cannot afford a home security system. 257 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I've got news for you. You can simply safe. It's 258 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: fourteen a month for peace of mind. If it's never 259 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: even used, you buy peace of mind. I have a 260 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: security system. My mom has a security system for a reason. 261 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I have prosecuted violent felonies, including burglaries that turn bad. 262 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: I have prosecuted kidnappings, break ins, home invasions, you name it, 263 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: and of course I've covered them. And I've got to 264 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: tell you I even keep my alarm system on when 265 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: I am home with the children and we are in 266 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: the house, that system is on. If you go to 267 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: simply safe dot com slash Nancy Grace Timberson off, thank 268 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: you Simply Safe, not just for being with us and 269 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: sponsoring us today, but what you are offering people that 270 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: think they cannot afford home security. Back to Chase Master, 271 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: Let's tackle her questions one by one. Okay, Alan Juke, 272 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: investigative reporter jump in. She wanted to know why would 273 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Brad throw a barbecue for roofers? Who does that? And 274 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: why would you throw a barbecue for someone who was 275 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: having a little bit of marital trouble. That's a good question. 276 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what was the barbecue all about? And I 277 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: think Lee might be in the best position of saying 278 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: was there actually evidence of that barbecue being being thrown? 279 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: And the other thing I'd like to get deeper into 280 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: is about where Brad was that morning. I understand he 281 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: was delivering a computer to somebody and what we know 282 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: about that. But could I defer to Lee on that 283 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: because she's been talking with a lot of sources. You 284 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: know what, I swear, you sound like a lawyer in court, 285 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: the grandstanding, the compound sentences. Just say, Lee, what do 286 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: you know? Hit me, lay please please hit me with this. 287 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: So the computer delivery, this is what I've heard going 288 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: on with that. The police, detective Twigs or whoever was 289 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: covering it, still cannot find this mystery guy that Brad 290 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: delivered the computer too. They went to the address, he said, 291 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: I think they just can't find him. They called the 292 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: phone number, can't reach him. Um, as far as the roofers, 293 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I spoke to Brandon Duck, who's the head roofer, and 294 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: right there that is to wait a minute, that's totally 295 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: yes what you just said, not you saying it. But 296 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: if this person exists and that's the phone number, what 297 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: they didn't answer, So you go, oh, couldn't reach him? 298 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Give up? No, that's not how that works. I mean, 299 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: even I can find a witness, for Pete's sake, if 300 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: I've got the cell phone on a cell phone, you 301 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: have to give all sorts of information into get the 302 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: cell phone. And what are they saying? He didn't live there? 303 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: He was at home, no such address. What I mean 304 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: just saying they couldn't get him. I don't know what 305 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: that means. That could mean anything to me. It means 306 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: they didn't. They're not pursuing the cases they should, in 307 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: my opinion. Do they only have one detective working on 308 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: this as this lady asked, As far as I know, 309 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: it's Detective Twigs, and I believe they're still treating it 310 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: as a missing person case. Did you see the posting 311 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: by the guy who did the roof work, um branded 312 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: duck roofing. Yeah, duck roofing. Everyone. Also, not only did 313 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: we give you the number for the Cobb County Police, 314 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: but there's also our number nine oh nine four nine 315 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: crime nine O nine four line c R. I M 316 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: a uh, go ahead, Lely Brandon Duck. He even thought 317 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: it was odd that um he said, Brad was acting 318 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of erratic, kind of going from place to place, 319 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: and that was kind of almost pressuring them to stay 320 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: for the barbecue and come inside and look at his house. 321 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: And you know, even even the rooper thought that was 322 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: very strange because they didn't know each other. I mean, 323 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: they had only met a couple of times before. I 324 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: think Brad may have found him online and got his 325 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: services from there. But yeah, he thought it was quite 326 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: odd that he was, you know, cooking for them and 327 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: wanted to stay over. He said he had a lot 328 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: of food that were going to waste, and yeah, I 329 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on there. Okay, we got a 330 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: lot of I don't knows, But that's normal in a 331 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: case like this. That is entirely normal. What's not normal 332 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: is for cops not to be Let me just say 333 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: open and forthcoming about what they're doing. UM, if they're 334 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: not doing anything, just tell us because sometimes you hit 335 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: a wall, it goes cold and there's nothing you can 336 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: do about it. Could could I ask? Can I ask 337 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: this question? Because when when we interviewed Chase's mom, when 338 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Nancy interviewed her, we were talking about polygraph tests and 339 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: the question was who's taken a Polly and Lee? Do 340 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: you know who has taken polygraph examinations? Absolutely? No one, um. 341 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: And from a source that spoke to Brad not too 342 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: long ago, I believe it was like last week, Brad 343 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: openly admitted that you know, they asked him to take 344 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: a polygraph, but he decided no, he didn't want to 345 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: do it. Allen, let's take the next call. My question 346 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: is his father had made a post on Facebook prior 347 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: to a huge search that was done by miss in 348 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: America that his son Chase would not be found in Georgia, 349 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: that the efforts of the Chase were useless basically, And 350 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what Ellie out law enforcement has done or 351 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: have they looked into that post that his father has made, 352 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: Like his father knows something and I'm curious to see 353 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: if his father has been, uh interviewed by the police 354 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: or what has gone on. As far as that post 355 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: that his father's made, I believe it is on the 356 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: page Justice for Chase Matt Master, Um, if you would 357 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: look into it. Okay, That's what we were talking about 358 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: earlierly and Allen, the alleged post by his father Chase 359 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: his father's stating you won't find him in Georgia as 360 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: if he knows where he was, and also telling the mom, 361 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadina, if you don't stop posting, I'll never tell 362 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: you where he is. Okay, we address that, Alan, Can 363 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: you play the next call? So why was tread Amandez 364 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: And when was the last time she had visited? Because 365 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: she's got this nice criminal history. I'm curious, and did 366 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Chase see her before he went to his mom's for 367 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: three days? Um? Is there any record of maybe Corbin 368 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: or being in the area or having contact with Chase 369 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: or Amanda in the short time before Chase went missing? Um, 370 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: just all questions that I've had, And I really feel like, 371 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, Brad really needs to be you know, checked out. 372 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: The timeline. Everything doesn't work. UM. I knew Chase. Chase 373 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: was funny, happy, lighthearted, go lucky. He wasn't. He wasn't 374 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: even in his depressed times. He'd be the guy that 375 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: gave you his shirt off his back. He's just that 376 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of guy. He's a good guy, goodhearted. He would 377 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: never ever ever walk away from his family. I think 378 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: if he was to have left his family, he would 379 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: have done that a long time ago during other struggles. Um, 380 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: but it never happened, and I don't think it would 381 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: ever happen because he's just not in him. Like, who 382 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: is she talking about that has a criminal record? She 383 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: said she has a criminal record? Who has a criminal record? 384 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: Amanda's mother, Trey, which going back to the part about 385 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: her cleaning Amanda's house. From what I hear, um, she 386 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: was not allowed. Chase did not like Trey. She was 387 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: not allowed in that house ever, not because she has 388 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: a pass record of meth amphetamine, youth, um, forged checks, theft, 389 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: just a long list, So she wasn't allowed in the house. 390 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: She wasn't. Are you sure it's it's are you sure 391 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: about her record? Absolutely? Wow? Absolutely? Okay. This is what 392 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: we know as of right now. More questions than answers. 393 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I know that's not a good conclusion. I know that, 394 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: but that's what we're working with. What it's boiling down 395 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: to in my mind, Alan Duke, is whatever happened happened 396 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: in or around that home, and again that does not 397 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: implicate the friend Brad. There was a fleet of roovers there. 398 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: There could have been other people in and out of 399 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: the home when Brad left. We don't know, but nobody 400 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: that was around the home saw Chase Master leave. Now 401 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: did he leave before? Was he ever there or do 402 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: they have their days wrong or their dates wrong. That 403 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: could be But what I know is that his credit 404 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: card a t M, never used again, cell phone, no 405 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: explanation for leaving it behind. I think at this point 406 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: polygraphs are in order, as well as bringing around canines. 407 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: That That's what I think, because if that body is 408 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: there somewhere, a dog could still hit on it. That's 409 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: what I think. Lee the dogs did come out before 410 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: um early on us, maybe a month, maybe a couple 411 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: of months after he went mossing, maybe a little longer, 412 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: but they didn't. And I what up from what I 413 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: hear they could they could send it out no matter 414 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: where it is in the area. But from what the 415 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: ladies in the group were saying, was the dogs sniffed outside, 416 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: sniffed in the yard area, but didn't go inside, and 417 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: they didn't get a hit outside the home. Okay, good 418 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: to know. I had forgotten the part about the k nines. 419 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: So if they didn't hit outside the home that day, 420 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: that's not going to change. I'd like to find out 421 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: if they were ever taken in the home, and if 422 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: they were not, if they could be allowed in the 423 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: home now. I don't know. Does it have a basement, 424 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: does it have an attic? I don't know any of that. 425 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: It does. And the funny thing is, like a month 426 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: or so after Chase disappeared, Brad just moved out of 427 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: his house. He had bought the house. From what I 428 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: hear cash he was getting the roof done. Uh and 429 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: then just leave. So the house has new owners now, um, 430 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if they're sure about what's 431 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: going on or you know, what happened there or what 432 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: could have happened there. Again, thank you Simply Safe for 433 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: being with us and sponsoring us today. For everyone out 434 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: there that thinks they cannot afford home security, think again. 435 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: I've got a home alarm system. Everybody's car has an 436 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: alarm system. What about your home where your children are 437 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: in there? What about that? Forget the car, what about 438 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: the children? 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It may very well be that Chase 448 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: just left, gave up on his family, gave up on 449 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: his children, gave up on his mom, gave up on 450 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: a life near his home, and just left. There are 451 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: thousands of people living anonymously off the grid right now. 452 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Is he one of them? It could be, as mother says, 453 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: no way would he leave his children, No way would 454 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: he leave her and not let her know he was alive. 455 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: What's the answer? Our search for Chase Masner goes on 456 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,