1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: A song, th s. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Songras s s sun. 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: My s. 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Santi so. 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: T speak. 6 00:00:37,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Russ we row to the scene, speaks nice time to day, 7 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Oh God is. 8 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Ser as. 9 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: To food ser. 10 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: Not shear for. 11 00:01:37,520 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 6: From For two hundred and fifty years, America's Navy has 12 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 6: guarded freedom, projected strength, and carried the fight across the sea. 13 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 6: Now from Norfolk, Virginia, history meets destiny. 14 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: They fight, fight, fight, and they win, win win. 15 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 6: President Donald J. Trump joins America's warriors aboard a mighty 16 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 6: aircraft carrier as we celebrate two and a half centuries 17 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 6: of seapower, explosive demonstrations, military might, unstoppable strength. 18 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: From Navy two fifty. 19 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 6: Seapower and Freedom with your host Steve Bannon, with live 20 00:02:50,680 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 6: reporting from Jack Posovic and Steve Bruper, starts right now. 21 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 22 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 23 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying 24 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: about the people, the people have had a belly full 25 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 26 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: know you tried to do everything in the world to 27 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's 28 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: going to happen. 29 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 7: And where do people like that go to share the 30 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 7: big line? 31 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: Mega media? I wish in my soul, I wish that 32 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what 33 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: is my task and what is my purpose? If that 34 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. 35 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen K. 36 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: Bath, Sunday five October in the year for Lord twenty 37 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: twenty five. Welcome for our all day coverage of the 38 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: commemoration of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the 39 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: birth of the United States Navy. President Trump is able 40 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: to carve this out of the schedule. We're going to 41 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: have a quite a show today, a actual live fire 42 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: naval exercise that the President of the United States, the 43 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: Commander in chief, will actually witness live in a carrier 44 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: strike group. Our own Jack Pasobic, a naval intelligence officer, 45 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: will be with the President. He'll be leaving Andrews Air 46 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: Force Base in the next couple hours to go to Norfolk, Virginia. 47 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: And of course Steve Gruber, the Great Steve grew werill 48 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: actually be out on one of the combatants during the day, 49 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: and we're going to have a host of analyst strategist 50 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: people that know the United States Navy backwards and forth. 51 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: We're going to try to frame today the United States 52 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Navy is just not the history of it, the glorious 53 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: history of it, but also where we are today and 54 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: kind of quovadis whether they'll go us on and the 55 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: greatest Navy in mankind's history. Want to thank Real America's 56 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Voice Parker and Rob Sigg. The logistics of this have 57 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: been pretty daunting. Also want to thank the White House. 58 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: I think we're going to get some since we're doing 59 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: this all day, as we did with Charlie Kirk on 60 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: the Great Memorial for Charlie Kirk and we did at 61 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: Kennedy Center for the Prayer Virgual and we've done over 62 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: and over again, We're going to get some I think 63 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: special insights and maybe even a little access to special footage. 64 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: So stick around. It's going to be an incredible, incredible day. 65 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: Six months Lexing and Concord was what April of seventeen 66 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: seventy five, and then Bunker Hill followed shortly thereafter mid 67 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: June with seventeen June seventy seventeen seventy five. The founding 68 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: fathers were pretty smart. They knew they were at war 69 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: right there. Didn't take the Declaration of Independence or kind 70 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: of the war proclamation that would come later. It's a 71 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: traditional birthday of the American of the American Republic. They 72 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: knew war was coming, they knew they were already in 73 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 4: a fight, and so they established the United States Army, 74 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: and on thirteen October of seventeen seventy five, the Continental 75 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: of Congress, who didn't have a lot of ability to 76 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: raise revenue, knew they needed something to stand up to 77 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: the World Navy. My two co hosts throughout the day, 78 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: Captain Jim Fanel and Cleo Pascal, They're going to They're 79 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: going to be joining me, and I'm also going to 80 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: have many many other people during the day. Claire, I 81 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: want to start with you. You're a senior columnist over at 82 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: the Sunday Guardian. You spent so much time for us 83 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: explaining really naval strategy and the importance of the Pacific 84 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: in that strategy. Give us your sense of how important 85 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: today is, and I think President Trump and highlighting to 86 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: the American people the importance of the power in might 87 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: of the United States Navy. 88 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 8: It's incredibly important. It's an excite day. I'm so glad 89 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 8: you're covering it. And with Captain Fanel on top of 90 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 8: it. It's worth remembering that during the nineteenth century it was 91 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 8: Britain who ruled the waves, but after World War Two 92 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 8: it was definitely America. And if you look at that 93 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 8: whole series of presidents between nineteen sixty one and nineteen 94 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 8: eighty one, they all served in the Navy in one 95 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 8: capacity or another. Then you had Reagan, who through no 96 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 8: fault of his own, served in the army, and then 97 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 8: you're back to Navy. So the whole making of modern 98 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 8: America was made under naval presidents, and they understood the 99 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 8: value of the Navy, of that hard power, not just 100 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 8: speaking softly, and how the Pacific was really central to 101 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 8: American security and prosperity. So the fact that this is 102 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 8: being done and celebrated in the way it is is 103 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 8: truly showing what the heart of American economic, political, and 104 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 8: I'd have to say moral leadership has been because although 105 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 8: it conquered most of the Pacific after World War Two, 106 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 8: it didn't stay. It moved back, the US came back 107 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 8: to itself. It created relationships, key relationships with allies and 108 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 8: partners in the region, but it wasn't a colonizing power. 109 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 7: So this is a. 110 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 8: New kind of navy, not the British Navy of the 111 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 8: nineteenth century. 112 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 7: This is a navy that. 113 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 8: Really wants peace and growth through strength without the sort 114 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 8: of dominance and control that you had previously seen. 115 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to have a lot of conversation about today, shipbuilding, 116 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: the cost of it, all of that. As President Trump 117 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: highlights the striking power of the United States Navy. I 118 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: think the live fire exercise off the Virginia Capes today 119 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: will be pretty on sparring for people, but it comes 120 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: at a cost and you have to have trade offs. 121 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: We're going to be talking about hemispheric defense also throughout 122 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: the day. To add to the drama of this, President 123 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 4: Trump is negotiating peace in the Middle East, and so 124 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: he still got his deadline. Although he has negotiators over 125 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: in Egypt right now at the Red Sea, over the 126 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: resort at the Red Sea negotiates. I think he's still 127 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: the six o'clock deadline still there. So we're going to 128 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: have updates throughout the day. Captain fan Now, I might 129 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: add Captain Fanel is a legendary figure, a revered figure 130 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: among all naval officers for his truth to his insights 131 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: in his truth telling. Captain Fanel, I know you just 132 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: had a great peace up. I think it was an 133 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: American greatness on sea power, current seapower. But put in 134 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: perspective the importance of the United States Navy in the 135 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: arc of American history. The founding fathers who were in 136 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: the Revolutionary generation pretty smart. They realized they were in 137 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: a gunfight already in seventeen seventy five. Yes, the Declaration 138 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: of Independence came and people all celebrate that as the 139 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: beginning of the country. But I always argue the country 140 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: really started at Lexington Common and a Concord Bridge, and 141 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: after Bunker they knew they were in a gunfight. That's 142 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: where they needed an army, and they certainly needed a navy. 143 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: Sir well, first of all, Steve, thanks for having me on. 144 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 9: It's a privilege and honor to be with you, Cleo 145 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 9: and the war room Posse. This is a very great 146 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 9: day to remember the history of our navy and the 147 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 9: fact that the United States of America isn't just a 148 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 9: single land power, but we're also a maritime power, and 149 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 9: we're probably the first great power in the history of 150 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 9: the world to balance land power and naval power throughout 151 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 9: our history. And as you pointed out, when the Revolutionary 152 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 9: War started and we started this nation, we had to 153 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 9: get rid of the British red coats off of our land. 154 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 9: But our founders understood the importance of sea power and 155 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 9: it grew throughout our two hundred and fifty years. We 156 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 9: can go back and look at Teddy Roosevelt's Great White 157 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 9: Fleet at the turn of the twentieth century, and then 158 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 9: we can certainly look at what happened in World War 159 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 9: Two with the growth of the Two Ocean that Navy 160 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 9: Act that helped us win World War Two in the 161 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 9: Atlantic and the Pacific. So this is a really trement 162 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 9: day that the day that we should remember that we 163 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 9: are a naval power and a ground power. 164 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 5: Today will focus on the Maritimes view. 165 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: We're going to go through it that throughout the day. 166 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: In fact, one of the interesting things of history, the 167 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: life fire exercise will be on the gunfire range off 168 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 4: of Norfolk, uh, the Norfolk Naval Base and which is 169 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: I still think the largest naval base in the world 170 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: and the town I was born right outside of Norfolk 171 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: Navy the Norfolk Navy base in Ocean View, Virginia, off 172 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: of the Virginia Capes. We're going to have the live 173 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: naval exercise. Is the key naval battle of the Revolutionary War, 174 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: where the French Navy came to cut off Cornwallis and 175 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: the expeditionary force of the of the British Army and 176 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: therefore technically, or I guess, basically ended the American Revolution. 177 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: Alex de Grosse is going to join, as his relatives 178 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: were very directly involved in that, and he'll explain everything 179 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: about the Battle of the Virginia Capes. We're going to 180 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: have history, strategy, operations, and a couple of hours. I 181 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: think I hope of good old fashioned navy power from 182 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 4: our from our the naval, air assets, the surface assets, 183 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: the carrier, submarines, all of it, and the Commander in 184 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: Chief overseeing it from a carrier strike group. Stick around, 185 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: you're in the war room. Real America's voice coverage all 186 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: day of the two hundred and fiftieth Navy two fifty 187 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: and the naval operation that President Trump will oversee. Take 188 00:12:46,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: a short break back in a moment, we'll. 189 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 6: Be right back with more Navy two fifty seapower and Freedom. 190 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 6: We want to thank our sponsors Birch Gold Group, Patriot 191 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 6: Mobile and AMAC for standing with RAB. Welcome back to 192 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 6: Navy two fifty seapower and Freedom. We want to thank 193 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 6: our sponsor AMAC for standing with RAV. 194 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: Okay, welcome back. I've got Jim Burgers are going to 195 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: join us here in a moment of because we're gonna 196 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: get a lot of geopolitics in here, a lot of strategy, 197 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: because you have to kind of set the framework, particularly folks, 198 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: if you obviously you follow the war room, one of 199 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: the most fundamental pivots that we're going through under America 200 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: First because we're not isolationists. There is an isolationist wing, 201 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: there's no doubt about that in the America First movement, 202 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: and we cherish those folks. President Trump's not an isolation 203 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: as he's engaged throughout the world. What he's trying to 204 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: bring two wars, two bloody wars to an end right now, 205 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: one in the Middle East and one of the Bloodlands 206 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: in Ukraine. Also at the same time trying to stare 207 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: down the Chinese Commists party in the South China Sea 208 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: and Taiwan. But for the first time since World War two, 209 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: there is and I would say actually, since a rise 210 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: to power in the Spanish American wars a global power, 211 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: there is now a kind of a pivot back to 212 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: what would be hemispheric defense, and we are trying to 213 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,239 Speaker 4: hear at the war room make sure that we're defining 214 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: hemispheric defense appropriately. And this is why Cleo, in her 215 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: work in the in the Pacific has been so vitally important. 216 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: Where we get into that, Captain Fanat want to go 217 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: to you about really in the history of the Navy, 218 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: you had the Revolutionary War, which we're we're essentially a 219 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: group of freebooters. I were guests, you had John Paul 220 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Jones and Commander what bear you had. We really weren't 221 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: an organized navy. In eighteen twelve we played a much 222 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: bigger We played a big role in the Revolution, don't 223 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: get me wrong, but more of a decisive role in 224 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: eighteen twelve, obviously a very decisive part of the Civil 225 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: War that's never really been I don't think that well 226 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: documented how important the Navy was in the Civil War 227 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: and particularly keeping us out of war with Great Britain 228 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: during the Civil War, which a lot of people in 229 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: the Confederacy were pushing for. But then really it's the 230 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: Spanish American War. And I want to tie this to 231 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: you know, President Trump, as much as he relates to 232 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: Andrew Jackson and other populists right in Reagan, he is 233 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: very fond of McKinley because of McKinley's global view and 234 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: particularly on terrorists, but also McKinley in the Spanish American 235 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: War the late nineteenth century, those young men that had 236 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: been on the battlefield of the Civil War when they 237 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: actually came to actually guide the country in the Spanish 238 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: American War, we really became a global power, in the 239 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: beginning of a true naval power globally, and for the 240 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: rest of our time. Really the United States Navy, as 241 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: much or maybe even more than the Army, has defined 242 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: American geopolitics. And now we find ourselves in the twenty 243 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: first century, at the end of the first quarter of 244 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: the twenty first century, at a fundamental crossroads of the 245 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: American Empire and the expansion of the American Empire and 246 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: what's really going to happen, What can we afford, what's right? 247 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: And this is a debate that's going on, and it's 248 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: centered on the state. A lot of it's centered around 249 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: the role in place and strategic necessity of the United 250 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: States Navy, and even in that what that navy will 251 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: look like is the twelve or thirteen carrier battlegroup strategy 252 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: of force projection, something that's from ancient times and with 253 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: drones and artificial intelligence, and we are going to have 254 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: people on later in the day to talk about drone warfare, 255 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: to talk about artificial intelli and how it's changing naval warfare. 256 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: Just your thoughts on the United States navies kind of 257 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: because Manifest Destiny, I think the brilliance of that generation 258 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: that was in late nineteenth century Manifest Destiny did not 259 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: end at the shoreline of the Pacific. They viewed as 260 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: a continental power, but a continental power that projected all 261 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: the way to the three island chains in the Pacific 262 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: and really to open Japan and then China. They saw 263 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: us as a global power, right, It's the whole reason 264 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 4: that we fought the Spanish American War. Your thoughts are. 265 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 9: Yes, Steve, There's no question that the Spanish American War 266 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 9: was kind of the beginning of our global naval operations 267 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 9: in a serious way, and from that time it continued. 268 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 9: As I mentioned before, the Great White Fleet, but that 269 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 9: foray into the Far East, and the constant presence that 270 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 9: we had there in the ability to project our power 271 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 9: and achieve our national objectives of that time that blossomed 272 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 9: under the twentieth century in the foundations of what came 273 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 9: out of World War Two were for the last eighty 274 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 9: years we have been the global naval power. We've been 275 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 9: the top navy as I you know, when I entered 276 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 9: the Navy in nineteen eighty six and got commissioned, we 277 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 9: had almost six hundred warships. 278 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 5: We were by far the largest navy. 279 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 9: You know, we were certainly at the end of World 280 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 9: War Two, but we sustained that throughout the Cold War, 281 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 9: and what we've seen over the last you know, four 282 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 9: decades essentially as a drawdown where we've cut the navy 283 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 9: in half, while at the same time this peer competitor 284 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 9: called the People's Republic of China has now got the 285 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 9: largest navy in terms of numbers of ships, numbers of 286 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 9: anti shipped cruise missiles at sea that are vital for 287 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 9: victory at sea and warr atcy. 288 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 5: And they're also fielding now. 289 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 9: These new unmanned vehicles like extra large unmanned undersea vehicles 290 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 9: that they're testing off of Heinen Island, or un manned 291 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 9: surface vehicles that they unveiled this week, a trimaran that's 292 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 9: going to be part of what they call their kill web. 293 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 9: So we're now at this point where we kind of 294 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 9: neglected and ignored the navy component of our national security structure, 295 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 9: not in terms of dollars spent in numbers of ships, 296 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 9: in terms of carriers and things of that nature, but 297 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 9: our overall strategy of making sure. 298 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: That we stayed ahead of pure competitors. We've kind of 299 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: let that atrophy. 300 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 9: For a number of reasons. And now the question is 301 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 9: what are we going to do about it? As you 302 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 9: suggested just now, is what's the path forward and how 303 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 9: are we going to get there? And this step today 304 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 9: where the President of the United States is going to 305 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 9: see on board and active carrier, I don't think has 306 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 9: been done since President Bush went aboard and you know, 307 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 9: declared victory in the Iraq War. 308 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: It's been a long time, and that was an actual 309 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: shooting war. 310 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 9: Here we are this time in essentially a war against 311 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 9: the Chinese, a cold war, and our president is going 312 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 9: to see and he's saying this is important, and the 313 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 9: speech that he gave last week in Quantico. He also 314 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 9: talked about victory at sea and the fact that we 315 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 9: need to be victorious at sea, and that's something that 316 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 9: our Navy leadership, you know, they talk about, they fund 317 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 9: in certain aspects, but we really haven't been thinking about 318 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 9: having victory at sea. In the same way that we 319 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 9: watched soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan when they were getting 320 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 9: blown up by IEDs on their humbis, were being overturned 321 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 9: and people were being killed. We didn't retreat into our 322 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 9: garrisons and say, oh, well, id's are killing us, let's 323 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 9: not go outside of the base. No, we figured out 324 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 9: a way to uparmor our humbies, put kevlar on our people, 325 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 9: and we took the fight to the bad guys in 326 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 9: the desert arena. But in the naval arena, we've been 327 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 9: afraid essentially of Chinese missile systems, whether it's a DF 328 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 9: twenty one D or the DF twenty six or now 329 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 9: these new hypersonic missiles like the DF seventeen, and we're 330 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 9: had a mentality that says, well, we can't operate inside 331 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 9: those weapons envelopes, so we're gonna have to continually move 332 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 9: to the East, and I think what I heard the 333 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 9: President say last week was no, we need to be 334 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 9: able to operate inside those weapon envelopes. 335 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: Take the hit and keep fighting. 336 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 9: And that's the spirit and attitude that I really like 337 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 9: to see, and I hope it infuses lights a storm 338 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 9: inside the Pentagon. 339 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: I think I think President Trump's looks at this not 340 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: as Bush's mission accomplished. I think he looks at this 341 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: as his Teddy Roosevelt moment, which he does relate to 342 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: Teddy Roosevelt. Particularly Teddy Roosevelt was welded to American naval 343 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: power the Great White Fleet Review. I think the Great 344 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 4: White Fleet Review under Roosevelt actually took place at Narfolk, 345 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 4: if I remember correctly. It went all over the world, 346 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 4: but I think actually the President went down and reviewed 347 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 4: it at cous Narfolk. The navy base at Narfolk since 348 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 4: the Civil War has been the principal naval base of 349 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: the United States and Navy. And I know, although capt'n 350 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: on our Pacific Fleet sailors, it is the largest and 351 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: I think most complicated naval base in the world. You've 352 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: got the little Creek amphibious space right there. You've got 353 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: Oceana Naval Air station. It is a quite a compound 354 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: there in Virginia Beach and Norfolk. Real quick before I 355 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: go back to Cleo and to bring Jim Rikers the conversation. 356 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: You hit on a point I want people to understand. 357 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: We've had this moment kind of before. When I came 358 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: off c duty in the late in nineteen eighty, I 359 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: got back to DC, as I told people, right for 360 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: the inauguration of President Reagan, went to work as a 361 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: junior officer for the Chief Naval Operations Op nine to X, 362 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 4: which kind of ran the border directors of the Navy, 363 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: the flag officers. Admiral Staser Holcombe was my direct boss, 364 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: and then of course the Great Hayward, who was the 365 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: Navy Fighter Pilot, was the Chief Naval Operations at that time. 366 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: We came off Gym and the first thing that struck 367 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: us and we could see this under Carter and was 368 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: one of the reasons even as a junior officer in 369 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: the workup we had left. We had rotated back right 370 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: before the strike to get the hostages out. But you 371 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 4: could tell it was, you know, he didn't have the capacity, 372 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: the lift capacity. I mean, there was a lot of 373 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: complication different helicopters, different systems. We try to do the 374 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: best we could. People in the work up to it 375 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: every day, but you saw where the problems were going 376 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: to be. Also, the navy I think had gotten under 377 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 4: I think around two hundred capital ships right, actual function. 378 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: I think maybe the overall numbers two fifty, but I 379 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: think the real number was two hundred. One of Reagan's 380 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 4: first things in his because remember Reagan was different than Kissinger, 381 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: different than Nixon, different in all of them. This wasn't 382 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: about containment. They were coming off the George F. Kennan 383 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: containment strategy. What he wanted was victory against the evil Empire. 384 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: One way they knew they could do it was to 385 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: bury the Soviets under our technology, in particular our naval power. 386 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: And he committed immediately to build a six hundred ship 387 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: navy immediately. It's one of the biggest things in the 388 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: defense budget. That shook up people back then, right, they 389 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: were kind of shocked, how do we af ford it? 390 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: What are we going to do with this navy? But 391 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: it was absolutely es central. Just the building of that 392 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: was essential. It put the Soviets back on their back foot. 393 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: They really never could comprehend how they would compete with 394 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: really a navy. They had six hundred had six hundred warships. 395 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: Give me a minute on that before we go to break. 396 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 4: Captain Feno, Yeah, it's a. 397 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: Vitally important history, Steve. 398 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 9: At that time, as you were in making that transition 399 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 9: to the Pentagon, the Soviet Navy was the biggest navy 400 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 9: in the world, and they were operating globally in the Mediterranean, 401 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 9: in the Pacific. They had, you know, Yankee ballistic missile 402 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 9: submarines operating off of our east and west coast within 403 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 9: two or three hundred miles, putting our capital at risk 404 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 9: within minutes from a ballistic missile attack. They were operating 405 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 9: in q They were everywhere. And U what President Reagan, 406 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 9: as you rightly said, he it was. It was a 407 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 9: we win, you die kind of mindset for him, compared 408 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 9: to the containment strategy to before. 409 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: And he something, hang on, one second changed the balance 410 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 5: of power. 411 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, hangar, We're going to come right back to that. 412 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: We got Jim Rickards is joining us for geopolitics. Captain 413 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 4: Fanel's with us on all things navy. Cleo, Pascal, We're 414 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: gonna be joined by others. I might also add Captain Fanel. 415 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: They were in the North Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf. 416 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: They had a fleet, they had a small armada monitoring 417 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: our every move. The Russian Navy was everywhere. President Reagan 418 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: took it on. We're going to take a short commercial break. 419 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: We'll be back in the warm in just a moment. 420 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Navy two fifty Sea 421 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: Power and Freedom. We want to thank our sponsor, Patriot 422 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 6: Mobile for standing with Wrath. Welcome back to Navy two 423 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 6: fifty Sea Power and Freedom. We want to thank our sponsor, 424 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 6: Birch Gold Group for standing with Wrath. 425 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I want to thank I get my co host, 426 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: Captain Jim Fanel that joins us. One of the most 427 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: brilliant men I've ever met about the United States Navy. 428 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: It's history and it's firepower, and the politics is all 429 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: with Cleopascal. As you know, Cleo has kind of taken 430 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: the lead on really what is the strategic heartland of 431 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: this country, the importance of the Pacific, and the geopolitics 432 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: of defense of the homeland or hemispheric defenses. We talk 433 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: about it. We're going to get all that in detail today. 434 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: Jim Rikers joins is Michael Pack, the great filmmaker. Michael 435 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: and I have made two films. Michael directed, I executive 436 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: produced two films about the Navy. Number one was The 437 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: Last six hundred Meters, which I guess was Marine Corps 438 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: and Army had a part of it. MO will feel 439 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: good about that. But he also directed a brilliant film, Rickover. 440 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: We made the film the only film about edmon Rickover. 441 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: I think that's a kind of a non documentary with 442 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: Tim Blake Nelson playing Avon Ricover. It's absolutely magnificent and 443 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: a hidden Jim Jim Rickards, you're my guy on Jill politics, 444 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: capital markets. We're here to inflection point in the twenty 445 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: first century. I might also add, when you talk about 446 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: the last time this happened, Bush went after mission accomplished. 447 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: President Trump is coming out today to a carrier for 448 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: a carrier strike group or carry battlegroup as I still 449 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: call it, to watch a gunfire naval exercise with missiles, guns, 450 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: you know, jets, helicopters, all of it, summaries, all the 451 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: assets the Navy brings together. Maybe we have a demo. 452 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: I think we got two. As Monica Crowley speaks today, 453 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Ambassador Crowley is going to be one of the early speakers, 454 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: a couple of Navy seals, and we are going to 455 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: have Eric Prince and Taje. Gilt, two Navy seals join 456 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: us in the Twelve Day War. I think, and I'm 457 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: not saying this because I'm a Navy guy, but I 458 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: continue to argue the most destructive capability of the total 459 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: obliteration at the Twelve Day War. And God bless our 460 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: air assets coming out of Nebraska and delivered that decisive 461 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: blow to the raging or the Persian nuclear power program. 462 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: But the good old United States Navy, and I think 463 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: fast attack submarines delivered thirty Tomahawk missiles that took down 464 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: at least forty percent of the capacity that was out 465 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: there that the Israeli Air Force was unable to take out. 466 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: These were kind of surface facilities. And so I think 467 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: the Navy still proves that it's got striking power everywhere 468 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: in the world. Where the geopolitics of this gym, How 469 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: big a day is this, how important in President Trump 470 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: really coming out And like you said, Hey, I know 471 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: sailors are not supposed to know how to march. I'm 472 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: not looking for him to march. Let's go ahead and 473 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: let's light things up. Let's have a enable gunfire exercise, sir. 474 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: That's right, I see. By the way, for the benefit 475 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: of the audience, I'm coming to you from Portsmouth, New Hampshire, 476 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: which is the home of John Paul Jones. Jones' house 477 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: is just a few blocks away from where I'm sitting 478 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: right now. Some of my neighbors have flags up front, 479 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, don't give. 480 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: Up the ship. 481 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: But in the other direction is Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, the 482 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: oldest naval shipyard in the country, established in eighteen hundred, 483 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: and there are three nuclear power to attack submarines sitting 484 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: there right now, a couple hundred yards from where I'm sitting. 485 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: My wife once asked me, you know, a couple of 486 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: years ago and Putin and they were saber rattling. She said, 487 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: you think the Russians will fire nuclear missiles at us? 488 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: And I said, we are very high on the list. 489 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: I can assure you that. But to your points, what 490 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: I'd like to do, I'd like to go up to 491 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: around sixty one thousand feet that's my personal best and 492 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: talk about two geniuses. One is Halfred Mackinder and the 493 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 3: other one is Alfred Thayer Mahanan. They were roughly contemporary, 494 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: as Mackinder was born in eighteen sixty one Mohamma was 495 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: born in eighteen forty. Mackinder was the genius, the father geopolitics, 496 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: and the genius of land power. Mahan, of course, was 497 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: the genius of seapower. His major books The Role of 498 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: Seapower in History. Nohan said, a lot of things were 499 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: quite familiar with and the navy carries out number one. 500 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: To be a global power, To be a world power, 501 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: you need to control the sea lings. And that begins 502 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: obviously the vessels in the navy. You start there, But 503 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: do you identify the choke points? And we know what 504 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: they are, the Straits of mus the Straits of Malacca, 505 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: the three island chains off the coast of China in 506 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: the Western PACIFICA identified the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal, 507 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: the Straits of Gibraltar. We know what the choke points are. 508 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: But to do that you need a series of You 509 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: can't just send a ship, you know, eight thousand miles 510 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: and I'm expected to arrive. First hold one arrived quickly 511 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: and secondly may not be in very good shape by 512 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: the time it gets there. That the Russian Navy found 513 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: that out in the hard way. In the Russian Japanese War, 514 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: the Japanese sank the Russian Pacific Fleet, and Zarai Nicholas said, 515 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: no problem, We'll send the Baltic Fleet over to vladis Vostok. 516 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: But by the time they got there it took months 517 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: to get there. They were exhausted, low on fuel, on provisions, 518 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: and the Japanese sank the Baltic fleet. So at that 519 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: point Russia sued for peace. By the way, that peace 520 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: Treaty of the Russian Japanese War was settled here in Portswith, 521 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, under the direction of Teddy Roosevelt, and he 522 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: won the Nobel Peace Prize for that. But to get 523 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: back to Mahon and mackindres So. Mahan said, you need 524 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: the navy, you need the choke points, you need a 525 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: series of bases. But in addition to that, you need 526 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: financial capacity to carry all that out. And I once 527 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: met with Andy Marshall. He was in his nineties when 528 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: I met him. Unlike Biden, he actually was sharp his attack. 529 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: He has served every president from Nixon to Trump. And 530 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: something called the Office of Net Assessment in the Pentagon 531 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: geeky name. No one's ever heard of it, but it was. 532 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: They were the futurists the officely. 533 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: Hang on, but hang on, hang one second. When I 534 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: was in the Pentagon, this is just like Michael Pack 535 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: and I made a movie about Rickover. Michael had come 536 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: up with the idea. He just said that. I think 537 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: at the time only three percent of of the American 538 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: population knew Rickover's name or was familiar with it. And 539 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: this is one of the giants of the twentieth century. 540 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: And our security evolves from the thinking and actions of 541 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: ever Rickover. Andy Marshall's probably at zero. Andy Marshall is 542 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: one of the most significant individuals behind the scenes in 543 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: the entire twentieth century. I mean, the basically strategy of 544 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: the of the American Empire was really thought through by 545 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: And today people say net assessment, they think is something 546 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: to do with the Internet. It was the basically to 547 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: take it at the nessa. But it was a brilliant 548 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: kind of kind of internal think tank to the Benecon. 549 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: And this guy was a great guy and absolutely a brilliant, 550 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: brilliant strategist. I think one of the greatest strategists this 551 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: country's ever had. But continue on. 552 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Jim, Yeah, I agree. So I met with with Andy 553 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: and one of his deputies that we're in a vault 554 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: in the Pentagon, just the three of us, and kind 555 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: of you know, my expertise, you know is financial warfare 556 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: and so forth. So we went through a lot of 557 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: things and I at one point I said to him 558 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: he was nine. I called him mister Marshall. Thought there 559 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: was a suit of boy. I said, mister Marshall, you're 560 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: going to wake up one day and find that you 561 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: have a forward deployed navy. You're going to pull into 562 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: a shipyard and ask for some services, and they're going 563 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: to ask you to pay in a currency that you 564 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: don't print. And Andy was a great listener, didn't say 565 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: a lot, but that was that kind of reaction out 566 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: of me and goes, yeah, we need to look at that. 567 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: In Otherwise, I was talking about the role of the 568 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: US dollar, so and again you can go back to 569 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: the pound, sterling, and before that, the Dutch guilder, et cetera. 570 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: Naval power, military power, general naval power in particular go 571 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: hand in hand with a strong currency. I'm not talking 572 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: about exchange r evaluations from talking about a currency that 573 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: people have trust in now this naval power ships from 574 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: time to time. You go back the sixteenth century, it 575 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: was the Portuguese and the Spanish. Portuguese wentest, the Spanish 576 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: went west. In the seventeenth century, believe it or not, 577 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: the Netherlands of the Dutch navy was very powerful, defeated 578 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 3: the Royal Navy number of battles eighteenth century, the French, 579 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: they helped the American Revolution, nineteenth century Royal Navy all 580 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: the way through twentieth century. Obviously, the US Navy, although 581 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 3: let's give a shout out to the Japanese. They were 582 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: the first to adapt to aircraft carriers. The British and 583 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: the Germans were completely locked into battleships, and the Japanese 584 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: started basically building very crude aircraft carriers, and the US 585 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: Navy was not far behind. So the question for the 586 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: twenty first century is what is it. Does the US 587 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: get another one hundred years of naval dominance or do 588 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: the Chinese come along and still the crown so to speak. 589 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: My view is that the Chinese are not going to 590 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: be able to do that. They if you study them internally, 591 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 3: they saying they're our a threat. I'm not you never 592 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: benefit underestimating your enemy. They have enormous internal social problems, 593 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: demographic problems, financial problems. As Jijipan looks like he's been 594 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: knocked down a peg and has actually subortinate to the 595 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: military of this stage. And people talk about the Japanese. 596 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 3: I sorry. The Chinese now have three aircraft carrier battle groups. 597 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 3: But they've got this ski ramp technology which they took 598 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: from the Russians. To get the planes airborne. You kind 599 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: of go up a lift. The bow of the ship 600 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: is where their flight tech rather is curved up. The 601 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: problem with that it's not very efficient. They have to 602 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: go up with half fuel loads and half loads of 603 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: armaments in order not to crash into the sea once 604 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: they take off. The US is master of the catapult technology, 605 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 3: so right there they have a door two. They're not 606 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: battle test it. 607 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: That will battle tested this one when we get to 608 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: By the way, we got Gruber's on the scene out 609 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: I think with one of the combatants right now, we're 610 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 4: going to go to Steve Gruber in a moment, pasobics 611 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 4: at Andrew Air Force Base. The President will be leaving 612 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: from there, and in fact, if he leaves from the lawn, 613 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 4: we'll try to. I'm sure he's gonna have a gaggle. 614 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: So we're trying to get to President Trump. Throughout the day, 615 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: We're going to be juggling between our strategists and geal 616 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: politicians and people know about the details of the Navy's 617 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: operations and strike power with everything that's going on. First off, well, 618 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 4: I want to get to the fighting, being able to 619 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: fight the ship in a moment. Do you believe Rickords 620 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 4: that to be a global power you need to have 621 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: a naval You need to have a naval presence that 622 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: has the ability to strike globally. 623 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 3: That's one way to do it. But let's give a 624 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 3: little credit to mckinder. Mckindre came up with this idea. 625 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: He looked at the Eurasian lamb mask. He didn't count 626 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 3: Europe as a separate continent, maybe a separate civilization, but 627 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: Europe in Asia by extension, Africa and the Middle East 628 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 3: and the Indian subcontinent. And he called it the world island. 629 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: And he identified a place called the Heartland, which is 630 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: kind of around Jian. China been to Jian. It was 631 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: the capital long before Beijing or Najing Southern Siberia and 632 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: against Central Asia, and he said, he who controls the 633 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: heartland controls the world island, and who controls the world 634 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: island controls the world. So there is another theory. Now 635 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 3: the last guy to do is Jengis Khan and the 636 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: descendants of Jengis Khan where the moment. 637 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: But the. 638 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: World War II was about. World War II was a 639 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: battle for the fight for that Eurasian landmass between the 640 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 4: Imperial Japanese Army and the Germans. This is where they 641 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 4: hit from two different sides. Uh the naval exercise. Cleo Pascal, 642 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: just stick there because clear Pascal, I would argue, is 643 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 4: the Alfred Theer Mahan of the twenty first century. Her theory, 644 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: The case is, yes, Mackinder is the heartland the world 645 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: Idoland is what the twentieth century wars were about. But 646 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 4: the twenty first century, and particularly for American hemispheric security, 647 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 4: pivots around the vast specific which is Captain Fanel tells 648 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 4: me approximately twenty times the surface mass of the United States. 649 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 4: It is vast. And the argument is that the strategic 650 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: heartland of the United States is that the pivot of 651 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 4: world history in the twenty first century. We're gonna gett 652 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: in all that today, Plus we're gonna see some good 653 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 4: old fashioned Navy fighting power. We're going to talk about 654 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: this concept of combat hardness and fighting the ship. What 655 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 4: is meant historically. Take a short commercial break, Real America's 656 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 4: Voice and War Room Navy two fifty all day today 657 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: here at Real America's Voice. 658 00:38:49,040 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 6: Back in a moment, will be right back with more 659 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: Navy two fifty Seapower and Freedom. We want to thank 660 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 6: our sponsor AMAC for standing with RAD. Welcome back to 661 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 6: Navy two fifty Seapower and Freedom. We want to thank 662 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 6: our sponsor Patriot Mobile for standing with RAV. 663 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: Okay, Welcome back AMAC, Birch Gold and Patriot Mobile, three 664 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: of our sponsors today. Folks have really taken care of us. 665 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: Really appreciate it. UH and all great companies like you 666 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 4: make sure that they're services and products. You spend some 667 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: time looking at and thinking about. Steve Gruber always doing 668 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 4: yeomen's duty. I tell you, here's Gruber. Here's what I'm 669 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 4: about you. I'm tossing you. I want you tell us 670 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 4: wor but here's our myra. Most about you. You're one 671 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: of the biggest personality he's in this business. You're the 672 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 4: rush Limba Michigan. Your people listen to you and watch 673 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 4: you because your insights, and yet you go do the 674 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 4: hard work every time we have with these things. You're 675 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,959 Speaker 4: always on the riser as an old school reporter. Where 676 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: are you, sir? And what are you doing today? 677 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell you, Steve, I'm riding the harbor here 678 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 10: main stage right behind me. 679 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 4: We'll see the president here. 680 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 5: Later of the USS. 681 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 10: Truman is right here next to be an impressive aircraft career. 682 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 10: But I have got to weigh in on a couple 683 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 10: of things. First of all, this is kind of old 684 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 10: hat to you, Steve. 685 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 4: You're a Navy veteran. 686 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 6: For me, I get these. 687 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 10: Opportunities on occasion a few years ago, I was on 688 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 10: the USS Michigan. You were talking about those Ohio class 689 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 10: submarines who are involved in that attack on Iran. I 690 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 10: was on the USS Michigan. It was not involved in that, 691 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 10: but it's one of those Ohio class submarines that's low 692 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 10: to ballistic missiles. 693 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 4: What an education that was? What an education? 694 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 10: Is here for me to see a F eighteen hornet 695 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 10: parked right here on the deck, not up on the 696 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 10: flight deck, but right here for everybody to see. I've 697 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 10: got all sorts. I've got an Austria here behind me. 698 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 10: Just remarkable for me to see. If I want to 699 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 10: weigh out on something else you talk about. I love 700 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 10: the conversation about Teddy Roosevelt. Nobody could overstate his job 701 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 10: is under. 702 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 4: Secretary of the Navy. 703 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 10: Eighteen ninety seven, eighteen ninety thirteen months he was in 704 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 10: the job, and basically without authorization. He knew the United 705 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 10: States Navy needed to be bolstered. 706 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 4: He knew we'd that to be a. 707 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 10: Global power, and he did it without much permission, and 708 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 10: he went and did it just before the Spanish American War. 709 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 4: It was remarkable. 710 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: I think. 711 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 10: By the way, Teddy Roosevelt will celebrate his one hundred 712 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 10: and sixty seventh birthday on the twenty seventh of October 713 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 10: this year. I know that, Steve, because it's my birthday. 714 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 10: So I've had an affinity for Teddy Roosevelt for a 715 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 10: long time. I think he did great things for American military. 716 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 10: So there you go. Personal story. 717 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 4: Hang on, Gruver, hang on, I'm going right back to you, 718 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 4: Captain Finel. Let's talk about that Teddy Roosevelt. I think 719 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 4: the first the first president that saw the Navy as 720 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 4: a tool for basically the global expansion of the United 721 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 4: States and the power of the United States as under 722 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 4: Secretary in the Navy is later his cousin FDR also, 723 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 4: I think Secretary of the Navy, under Secretary of the 724 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 4: Navy talk about Teddy Roosevelt, the Great White Fleet, the 725 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: importance of Spanish American War, and the rise of the 726 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 4: power of the United States around the Navy. 727 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 9: Well, Steve, you know, we were at that time in 728 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 9: the world development. We are in this point where you know, 729 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 9: there's there's been an industrial revolution in Europe and there's 730 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 9: buying and selling and trading, and nations are expanding, and 731 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 9: colonialism is expanding by European nations around Africa and and 732 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 9: things of that nature, and they're expanding colonialism throughout Asia. 733 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 9: And I think what President Roosevelt, then Secretary of Roosevelt 734 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 9: saw was this need that the United States was if 735 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 9: we were going to survive and not be you know, 736 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 9: have these European nations come to look to carve us up. 737 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 9: That we needed to be out on the world stage, 738 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 9: and we needed to be modern and have a modern 739 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 9: fleet that could operate globally to ensure our access to 740 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 9: the markets and to be able to. 741 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 5: Buy and sell and trade. 742 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 9: It really hasn't changed in the last one hundred and 743 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 9: fifty years or one hundred and twenty five years since then, 744 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 9: which is this faith and belief and free access to Marcus, 745 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 9: the freedom of navigation. 746 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 5: As Jim Rickards said, you know, we've got these choke points. 747 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 5: The earth is. 748 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 9: Seventy percent water, the most of it's in the Pacific 749 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 9: fifty percent of that, and we need to be able 750 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 9: to buy and sell and trade and move goods and services. 751 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 9: And at that time we didn't have the capacity to 752 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 9: ensure our ability to do that without being subject to 753 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 9: the predations of other European capitals and their larger navies. 754 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 9: And so I think that turning point in the Spanish 755 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 9: American War was for us a turning point to say, hey, 756 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 9: we are now a global player. We are on this 757 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 9: global stage, and it's set in motion many many things. 758 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 9: It was the age of going from sailing ships wooden men, 759 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 9: and wooden ships and iron men to iron ships and 760 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 9: iron men was kind of the way to phrase it. 761 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 9: And so we became the modern navy in that era, 762 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 9: and we kept progressing, and so we incorporated technology research, 763 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 9: and development things of that nature that weren't just into 764 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 9: the shipbuilding, weren't just into recruiting, but this idea that 765 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 9: we had to have naval armaments and naval gunnery, and 766 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 9: that we had to have proficiency and science behind those 767 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 9: kinds of technologies. It was also during the period of 768 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 9: the birth of the undersea the submarine fleet, and the 769 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 9: submarine force, so lots of new things were coming into 770 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 9: the Navy at the turn of the beginning of the 771 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 9: twentieth century, and it was all really set in motion 772 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 9: because of as Steve Gruper said, of the one guy 773 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 9: who went out on his own and knew what needed 774 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 9: to be done and pushed hard for it. And that 775 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 9: also set the president, as we've talked about throughout the 776 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 9: next one hundred and twenty five years, where we saw 777 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 9: other periods in our history where people stood up and said, Okay, 778 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 9: I'm going to lead in this area. We need to 779 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 9: get back to leading in maritime and naval power. 780 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 4: And as Grouver said, when Teddy Roosevelt was in the 781 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 4: Department of Navy, he didn't he was going to beg forgiveness, 782 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 4: he wasn't going to ask permission. He just did it. Cleo, 783 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 4: I want to go to you. Because of those giants 784 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 4: and thinking about the Spanish American War, what they understood 785 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 4: is that manifest destiny, the destiny the United States, did 786 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 4: not ended the short line of California. It was not 787 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 4: simply the settlers and the pioneers and all these heroic 788 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 4: giants that we stand on the shoulders of that really 789 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: went across the Mississippi out west into this really hostile 790 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 4: environment to build a civilization that it projected farther. They're 791 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 4: the first ones that understood the importance in the in 792 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 4: the importance of the Pacific to the United States, and 793 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 4: that essentially our destiny would ultimately be tied to being 794 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 4: a Pacific power. Walk us through that, ma'am. 795 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 796 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 8: So this this goes back to very early on in 797 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 8: US history. The Navy actually sent out an exploring expedition 798 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 8: in the Pacific from about eighteen thirty eight to forty two. 799 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 8: They didn't have the money for the whole thing. The 800 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 8: President have the money for the whole thing, so he 801 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 8: sent it out hoping that it would be so popular 802 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 8: that Congress would find the money to bring it back, 803 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 8: which was the case, which proved. 804 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 7: To be the case. 805 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 8: But At that point, the Pacific was very much of 806 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 8: a European lake, and. 807 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 7: The US felt threatened by it. 808 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 8: Hawaii was sacked by the French in the late eighteen forties, 809 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 8: and the US representative there at the time sent a 810 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 8: message back then and then again later in the seventies saying, 811 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 8: if a hostile power controls Hawaii, we're not going to 812 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 8: be safe and. 813 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 7: We're not going to be able to trade. 814 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 8: And that was really what set up the Spanish American 815 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 8: war part in the Pacific, which was President McKinley later 816 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 8: said that the reason that they took the Philippines and 817 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 8: took Guam was because there was an understanding that if 818 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 8: the Dawns as he called the Spanish, controlled the Philippines, 819 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 8: then the US mainland wasn't safe. And so that year 820 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 8: eighteen ninety eight was a very important year for the 821 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 8: US saying we don't want any hostile powers controlling the Pacific, 822 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 8: because not only did the US take the Philippines and Guam, 823 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 8: but that was also when Hawaii joined joined the US 824 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 8: or was annexed to the US, giving that central point 825 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 8: in the Pacific from which you could then refuel and 826 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 8: be able to move forward to. 827 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. 828 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 4: I want to make very people understand this. In eighteen 829 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 4: ninety eight, a geostrategic decision was made that no hostile 830 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 4: power will ever control the Pacific. No hostile power ever 831 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 4: control of the Pacific. We fought the same half of 832 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 4: the Second World War, at least a third of the 833 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 4: Second World War was fought to make sure that we 834 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: drove the Imperial Japanese Navy out of the Pacific. And 835 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 4: today in the twenty first century, our central our central 836 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 4: threat as a as a great power, maybe not the 837 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 4: threat here and the thread, the deep state and all 838 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 4: these other threats that were trying to stare down or 839 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 4: break apart, but the existential threat as a great power 840 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 4: struggle ain't Russia in the Eurasian land mass. It is 841 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 4: the challenge of the rise of the Chinese Companies Party 842 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 4: in its navy. To basically have a hostile power take 843 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 4: over the Pacific. Is that's essentially in a nutshell where 844 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 4: we stand today, given our history of over what one 845 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty seven, one hundred and thirty years, when 846 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: we made this decision as a country. 847 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 8: It's absolutely I mean, this is why I think mckinder 848 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 8: was never really relevant for the US. The Central Pacific 849 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 8: was always the US's geographical pivot of history. If a 850 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 8: hostile foreign power controlled it, the US wasn't safe. At 851 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 8: the time that this was clear that it was the 852 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 8: Spanish and the British and the French. Then it became 853 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 8: the Japanese, then it was the Soviets, and now it's 854 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 8: the Chinese. 855 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 7: The geography doesn't change. 856 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 8: And that's why the parts of the United States like 857 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 8: the Commonwealth and near the Marianna Islands in Guam, which 858 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 8: are an eight hour flight west of Hawaii but only 859 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 8: a four hour flight southeast of Tokyo, for example, or 860 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 8: from Taiwan, are Americans on American soil. That is a 861 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 8: strategic lesson, encoded in history and given to future Americans 862 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 8: to remember. 863 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 7: We are a pacific power. 864 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 8: The US is a Pacific power without the And that 865 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 8: was actually what Teddy Roosevelt said when he sent the 866 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 8: Great White Fleet through. Was one of the reasons he 867 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 8: did it was to remind Americans and everybody else that 868 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 8: the US was as much of a Pacific power as 869 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 8: an Atlantic power. 870 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 7: So this is McKinley was also. 871 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 8: Very very clear about this. This was widely known from 872 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 8: early on and it became part of Also, for example, 873 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 8: the purchase of Alaska in eighteen sixty seven was an 874 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 8: attempt to do a pincher move on British Columbia, what 875 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 8: was then a British colony, to control the entire Way 876 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 8: coast so that there couldn't be any infiltration onto the 877 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 8: continent from other Pacific powers. So don't forget Alasco when 878 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 8: you're talking about the Pacific, or the ghost of Billy 879 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 8: Mitchell will come and haunt you in your sleep. 880 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to get all that Billy Mitchell about 881 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 4: new technology. Court martialled Billy Mitchell for trying to show 882 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 4: naval airpower Alaska. Also the Panama Canal. Right now, folks, 883 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 4: we've allowed the Caribbean to become a lake of the Chinese, 884 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 4: of the PLA in the Chinese Communist Party. That's all 885 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 4: going to be swept out. President Trump's hemispheric defense from 886 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 4: Greenland in the Arctic all the way to the Panama 887 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 4: Canal and then down to Latin America. Of course, we 888 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 4: have an amphibious ready group as we speak today, with 889 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 4: four thousand fleet marines and sailors off the coast of Venezuela, 890 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 4: looking at a potential strike to take over the seaports, 891 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 4: the air bases, and logistics nodes potentially. Although we're not 892 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 4: at war with a nation or won't be a ward nation, 893 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 4: the Trump administration is already told, already told Congress, we 894 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 4: are already at war, a kinetic war against the drug cartels. Okay, 895 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 4: we're gonna get into all of it. We got Clear Pascal, 896 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 4: we got Captain Fanel, we got Steve Gruber on the 897 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 4: Truman We're gonna go back to Gruber. Jim Rickers is 898 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 4: with us for geopolitics. We're gonna be joined by the 899 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 4: great filmmaker Michael Pack his amazing film on Admiral Ricover, 900 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 4: one of the greatest giants of the twentieth century, underappreciated 901 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 4: and under and misunderstood. Short commercial break, We're gonna come 902 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 4: back eleven o'clock. Also, I think Jack Besovich's at Andrew's 903 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 4: Air Force Base. The President's gonna get ready to leave Monica. 904 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 4: Ambassador Crowley, I think it's gonna take the stage, give 905 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 4: a speech with a couple of Navy seals. There's a 906 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 4: lot going on today in Navy two point fifty back 907 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 4: in a moment. 908 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more eighty two point fifty 909 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 6: seapower and freedom. We want to thank our sponsor, Birch 910 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 6: Gold Group for standing with Rav