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Speaker 1: At this He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome you the Drive. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 2: de Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, kind of kind of, it feels like Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Steelers are traveling tomorrow and they play Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: So for a regular week they had jammed like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 2: We're all jammed into today in terms of practice stuff

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Speaker 2: and everything that we had to do.

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Speaker 3: The same with our worlds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have the injury report for the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: all right, start there. The practice was a practice, but

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Speaker 2: it wasn't really only Yeah, it's a hat practice, as

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Speaker 2: they like to call it. So it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: glorified walk through, just going through. Okay, here's what the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff has come up with. Here's what we're gonna run,

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Speaker 2: and you go ahead.

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Speaker 3: You're not installing new stuff this week, no, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we haven't used this in two weeks. We'll pull

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Speaker 3: it back out. So just to refrash this one's from

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 2: We haven't done it the last couple of weeks, but

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Speaker 2: we'll do it this in this game Nowji Harris a

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Speaker 2: full participant today. He had rested on Monday. Corey Trice

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Speaker 2: a full participant again today. We'll see if he gets activated.

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Speaker 3: I doubt it. I see both sides. Man, it's a

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Speaker 3: little crowded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Alex Highsmith did not practice. He's not expected

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Speaker 2: to play. Isaac Saamalu, Cam Hayward, and Larry Ogan Joby

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Speaker 2: all were given veterans days off.

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Speaker 3: As very common on a Thursday game, right.

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Speaker 2: And then Michael PREWITTT and TJ. Watt both were resting yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They practiced today.

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Speaker 3: So that's it. Okay, So prew it will be in

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Speaker 3: the mix. Really all your missing Heismith sounds like.

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Speaker 2: That sounds about it once again going into a Thursday

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Speaker 2: night game is after Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, I mean I was worried. There's a

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Speaker 3: couple of things that happened in the Ravens game. I thought,

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Speaker 3: I know, they probably won't have him for Thursday. But

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Speaker 3: Benton was one I was concerned about. The tricing is

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Speaker 3: not really a needle mover e the way for this week. No,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got ten days after that too. You

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Speaker 3: can figure things out the pecking order. Sulton could play

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Speaker 3: outside if catastrophe happens to or whatever. High Smith would

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Speaker 3: be wonderful. But you got three really good edge guys. THO. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a nice straight deadline pickup. Right, it's okay, right,

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Speaker 3: and their tackles are terrible speaking of them, Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Joel Botonio has a pectoral injury. He was limited today,

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Speaker 3: but he's one of the only guys that can count

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Speaker 3: on on that O line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Hicks when they're linebackers, a full participant he

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Speaker 2: was dealing with. He's dealing with elbow and triceps injury.

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Speaker 3: Zo not a great player, but he's active and is

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Speaker 3: a high tackle count guy, I think from what I remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Maury's Hurst full participant with a shoulder, Jerry Judy

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Speaker 2: full participant with a knee, Elijah More shoulder injury limited.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they count on him a lot. Those three receivers

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Speaker 3: of quietly made some noise, became fantasy relevant all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden. Imagine when you have a professional quarterback how

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Speaker 3: much it helps.

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett added to the injury report with a hip issue.

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Speaker 2: Did not practice today.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I mean that would obviously be the biggest blow

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Speaker 3: they could withstand, you know. I mean he's the guy

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Speaker 3: you fear most on that team. Who knows. Maybe it's

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Speaker 3: just precautionary, but that's he's.

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Speaker 2: Already one being a foot issue all year long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have a lot of incentive to play

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Speaker 3: on a short week beat his body up further. But

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get people too encouraged on that. One.

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Speaker 2: Newsom Greg Newsom shoulder injury limited, okay.

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Speaker 3: One. Definitely to keep an eye on David and Joku

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Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson right finger injury. He was a full

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Speaker 2: participant tight end, was it? Greg Swam? Jeff Swain?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff and the G for the G that's what

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Speaker 2: Concussion. Did not practice, so he's not going to play.

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Speaker 2: He would probably be the chipper, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about this. I don't want to interfere

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Speaker 3: with the middle years your deal there, but you know

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Speaker 3: we've done that free flow of jazz heavy eleven team,

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Speaker 3: all just post jamis being inserted kind of like when

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Speaker 3: the CEOs put Wilson in. You know, if you just

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Speaker 3: kind of look at the offensive passing game since then,

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Speaker 3: the three of them get a lot of targets, like

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Speaker 3: they're all fantasy relevant. They're all like eight to eleven targets,

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: Target ship, how much they're throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: They're throwing the ball a ton, and the djokus hasn't

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Speaker 3: fallen off. So they have four guys that are not superstars.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather have Marti Cooper than all of them, but

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Speaker 3: you know, they're all good and the group. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: what they envisioned when they brought them in now a

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Speaker 3: quarterback that can get them the ball. Thus, you don't

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Speaker 3: want any of them pass block. No, it only leaves

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Speaker 3: one more guy out, one more eligible receiver to help

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Speaker 3: your front five, and your tackles are a disaster. Is

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Speaker 3: that going to be Chub or Ford? Are they going

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Speaker 3: to bring in a six lineman they've been playing. He's

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Speaker 3: been playing the most right, and he's out snapped Chubb

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Speaker 3: heavily in this last game. I don't know what he's

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Speaker 3: six man protection scheme to be and is that enough

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Speaker 3: for long developing pass plays. Thus they lead the league

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Speaker 2: Out Denzel Award with ribs and ankle injury limited today,

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Speaker 2: huge with Newsom too, and then Jedrick Wills knee injury.

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Speaker 2: Didn't practice yesterday. I think that was an estimated was

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Speaker 2: limited today. Okay, and we know Jones is not playing

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Speaker 2: for the year. Corners and tackles and Garrett or what

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Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to there. You know what corners are dressing,

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Speaker 2: if Miles Garrett doesn't go there front seven and kind

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Speaker 2: of loses all its teeth. Yeah, Now, the sacks have

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Speaker 2: been less with Jameis Winston in there. He's taken seven

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Speaker 2: sacks on like one hundred and forty two dropbacks, so

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Speaker 2: that's about one every twenty dropbacks.

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Speaker 3: The thing is as they're dropping back to pass a

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Speaker 2: But he's also put seven balls this according to a

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus seven interception worthy throws.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, on one hundred and forty throws. So he's

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Speaker 3: not quite the crazy gunslinger he was five years ago,

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Speaker 3: but he all that's in this DNA. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: it's farveing in a way without the MVP STI you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of he's kind of and it's ironic

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Speaker 2: that he's Cleveland's quarterback now. He's kind of old school

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good call too. Not real mobile, not

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Speaker 2: We'll throw the he'll make. He can make all the throws,

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Speaker 2: he's certainly capable. But it will also throws something to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely will and he's not bashful at all. His teammates Adoreum,

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Speaker 3: he's a real weird Yeah, but everyone says he's super smart.

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Speaker 3: I mean everyone loves him. They'll run through a wall

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Speaker 3: for him, but he's never really gotten over the hump,

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Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, And I retweeted this. I mean Ian

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Speaker 3: Hardess wrote this. It's kind of a fantasy note. He

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Speaker 3: works for Fantasy Life, Matthew Berry's site, and he does

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Speaker 3: a good job. But this is Jameis Winston's average depth

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Speaker 3: of target by year starting in twenty fifteen. Fifth second, first, second, second,

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Speaker 3: He just throws the ball downfield and it takes a

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Speaker 2: And how do you protect That has not been the

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Speaker 2: approach teams have chosen to take against the Steelers at all.

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Speaker 2: It's been get the ball out in two point four

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Speaker 2: seconds or faster because if you don't, yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get hit with extra tight ends or full backs or chippers.

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Speaker 3: And that's not how this team plays at all, or

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Speaker 3: this quarterback. I was really worried about this game. I

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Speaker 3: become less and less and less worried. I'm still I

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Speaker 3: have concerns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers are in their last twenty games after

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Speaker 2: playing the Ravens are ten and ten?

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Speaker 3: Are they? I was. I tried to look that up

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Speaker 3: and I couldn't find the best place to do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh you can find it on their web, you know,

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Speaker 2: or you can go through their books.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I could have done game by game.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't doing that.

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Speaker 2: Done the work, right, I said, I did, Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: you go, somebody, I'm perfect all write down the Steelers also,

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Speaker 2: and this isn't I don't kill Mike Tomlin for this stat.

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Speaker 2: They're one and seven on Thursday nights under Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: on the road, on the road games, that's the league.

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Speaker 2: That's the league as a whole.

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Speaker 3: I never hardly ever pick a road team.

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Speaker 2: It's really difficult to do because I mean, there was

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Speaker 3: I think it's a massive disadvantage and it's huge, frankly

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Speaker 3: unfair to some degree. That's why I dreaded this game forever.

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Speaker 2: Three of the Tomlin losses on the road on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Nights have come in Cleveland, really, which real fair either

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Speaker 2: because I don't I can't remember any Thursday Night games

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Speaker 2: here against Cleveland. It's like the brown The Browns always

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Speaker 2: open the season at home every year.

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Speaker 3: I say the Thursday Night things very real now you

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Speaker 3: say it, like Steelers at Brown's Thursday Night, you feel

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Speaker 3: like you can count on it. Now.

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Speaker 2: Some of those were one was a Mitch Trubisky game.

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Speaker 2: The other one was a Mason Rudolph game that he

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Speaker 2: got clubbed over the head. That we've talked about that

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Speaker 2: one before. Ben Roethlisberger starts that game and his number

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Speaker 3: That game was a disaster from they had.

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Speaker 2: They were all banged up, they had crazy, They had

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Speaker 2: no one I remember knowing being able to like get

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Speaker 2: these guys lined up like they were new on the road.

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Speaker 3: Like if you lost all your receivers against the Ravens, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: now go win. You know, Pickens Austin.

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Speaker 2: Off the practice squad. We're like playing key downs and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that one and the third one was the Thursday

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Speaker 2: about minus forty degrees and the wind was blowing three

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Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour and Brady Quinn started and threw

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Speaker 2: for eighty yards and beat the steel And that was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they were built to pass at that point and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have their running backs weren't. Not that

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Speaker 3: it's similar, but you mentioned that there might be snow

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Speaker 3: for this one.

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Speaker 2: Huh could be some snow, could be some wind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Steelers are much better equipped to deal with that now.

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Speaker 3: Oh I think.

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Speaker 2: So it's a better equipped to deal with that than

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to be a deep beat, deep passing team,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So did I interrupt your report? Theres

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Speaker 3: sounds like I mean, they got twelve dollars on their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're just looking at this from a matchup

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Speaker 3: Both teams coming off of bye in Wichita, Kansas. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know how many of the guys

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of them have quit.

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Speaker 2: It looks like it quit a little bit against the

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Speaker 3: I still feel like they're getting a shot in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, Winston's a wide receiver friendly guy, you know,

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Speaker 3: Jay Okay's hurt. You're on the field all the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be here next year. The coach,

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Speaker 3: I was in the building twenty some years ago in

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Speaker 2: I just wonder, well, their fans show up cold, wet,

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Speaker 3: Maybe just out of Steeler hate, maybe, but they could

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Speaker 3: Do you think a lot of Steeler fans are picking

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Speaker 3: I would think that's very Yeah, intense, go, so.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Actually a game Thursday night is a

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Speaker 3: How cool would be to take over the Brown State?

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Speaker 3: You can take Friday off. We're not taking Friday off.

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Speaker 3: We'll be here Friday, but we won't be here Thursday,

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Speaker 3: not that we won't be doing anything, but we will

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Speaker 3: not be.

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Speaker 2: Working the game on Thursday. But yeah, you want to

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Speaker 3: Up, take'll trip up Thursday weekend. You can make it

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Speaker 2: You leave work at four o'clock and still get up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, do it. How would that be to

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Speaker 3: take over divisional? That that never happens, That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing Steeler fans can take over stadiums,

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Speaker 2: they're always non division stadiums. They very rarely do you

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Speaker 3: Because even since he was in the dreaft drums.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might get twenty percent Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not fifty owls everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet there are quite a few tickets available

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Speaker 2: for this sugging because they just don't want to see

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you're a brown fan and night game,

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, tickets available probably, so if you want to

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Speaker 3: Ye, no, no, it's not a bad ri No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: You've made it a million times. I made it a

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Speaker 2: You had an interesting little tidbit. The Browns are the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Steelers are the best second half. So

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Speaker 3: I just don't see I see plays being made by

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Speaker 3: good than bad, and their receivers will find William them

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Speaker 3: open them bad because he's I mean two or three

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Speaker 2: He has for I forget the exact number, but he

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Speaker 3: Football Focused, and he has made bad throws. Uh throw,

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Speaker 3: I know that numbers high did and those big time

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Speaker 2: Not quite as high. Whereas Russell Wilson, on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: has made that time. He's made more. He's only had

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Speaker 2: two balls that were considered interception worthy he was thrown,

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Speaker 2: one of which got picked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, he's made I think seven big

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Speaker 3: That adds up. I'm sure we could single them out

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Speaker 3: pretty easy too, you know. Yeah, A lot of them

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Speaker 2: Well, Cleveland or Baltimore's corners last week weren't banged up.

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Speaker 2: They were doubling him, and he's still feasted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are real high, like the Steelers single high

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Speaker 3: safety team. And you know, just to flip it, Steelers

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Speaker 3: think they just go back to Russian four. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it'll be Mink in center. I mean he

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Speaker 3: could come be the Najoku guys who've mentioned, But I

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Speaker 3: don't know that you need to vary it up a

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Speaker 3: lot or get out of your comfort zone here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: put it, put a three deep shell over things when

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Speaker 3: catch it, catch it. Hit him a lot. You know,

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Speaker 3: Daniels and Lamar too. If you happen to run past him,

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna he's not gonna play yeah right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's still a four nine to seven guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a heavy footed guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's fine if you get extra sacks because your pass

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Speaker 2: There could be sacks in this game. They can get

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, I don't know how they get around to

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Speaker 3: blocking t. J. Watt. Yeah, Cam Hayward at all, he'll

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Speaker 3: probably play, who knows, but the fact that Potonio's on

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Speaker 2: But if he's limited with a pictorial issue right against

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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing about their offensive line. Even

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Speaker 3: The run game. Oh yeah, Chubb centric, not what.

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Speaker 3: Thought he was the best ball carrier in the league,

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Speaker 3: Now he's not that. And they don't run block worth

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Speaker 2: So it's a bad football team.

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Speaker 3: They earned that too, and eight and it's not all

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Speaker 3: Watson's fault, you know, like the the version we're looking

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Speaker 2: They rise up and beat the Ravens a couple of

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Speaker 3: And that was his first game as starter. You get

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Speaker 2: There were three, yeah, cluding won by Kyle Hamilton at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. Anyways, we're gonna talk more about

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Speaker 2: this game. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: and you'll get all these videos and all the stuff

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Speaker 2: that we do on there.

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Speaker 3: That's what great stuff on there. We'll share the matchup

438
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Speaker 3: on there with Rob King. You can leave me a

439
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Speaker 3: bunch of unkind comments if you want to. Apparently people

440
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 3: like to do that last couple of days, no idea.

441
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Speaker 3: What a hater. You are used to be the target

442
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Speaker 3: more often than not from what I understand, and.

443
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Speaker 2: I will so people targeted me because well, I'm quote

444
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Speaker 2: unquote a homer. You're getting targeted because.

445
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Speaker 3: I hate to steal. You hate the stealers?

446
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Speaker 1: Right?

447
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Speaker 3: Which one is it?

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

449
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Speaker 3: Right, that's fine. I'm just gonna pick them to go

450
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Speaker 3: seventeen to oh every game.

451
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to pick them seventeen. Oh you know,

452
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Speaker 2: I have picked him in each of the first ten games. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 2: I didn't pick them against the Jets or Ravens, but

454
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Speaker 2: that's largely because I thought that they were going to

455
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Speaker 2: win those first ten games, and they've lost two of

456
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Speaker 2: them by three points.

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Speaker 3: I wish I would have picked the other team in

458
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Speaker 3: the coltson Cowboy game, trying to pick the games right.

459
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Speaker 3: So I'm mayton to picking the Steelers this year. I'm

460
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Speaker 3: six and four. Yeah, and by the way, the Ravens

461
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: were favorite, like I kicked your butt watch it, but

462
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Speaker 3: that wasn't People weren't as angry about that. No, they were.

463
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Speaker 2: They were a little more understanding on that as they

464
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Speaker 2: were with your your Miles Garrett being better than TJ.

465
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Speaker 3: Watt. Yes, and I think I phrased it a little bit.

466
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Speaker 3: I'm willing to go down that road. I mean, I

467
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Speaker 3: think I phrased it that I prefer Garrett's game to

468
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Speaker 3: watch by point zero zero zero one percent. Like these

469
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Speaker 3: are as it's like picking your favorite child, right These

470
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Speaker 3: are elite players. These are maybe the two best defensive

471
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Speaker 3: players on the planet right now. And if I said

472
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Speaker 3: that and you came back with you know what, I like,

473
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Speaker 3: Michael Parkson's better than both. Okay, I mean they're elite,

474
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Speaker 3: elite player. Watt's stats are better. Wat should have been

475
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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year last year. Again, I'm absolutely

476
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Speaker 3: splitting hairs. Part of it is because I was a scout.

477
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Speaker 3: His physical traits are unbelievable. Garretts, yes, and I'm not

478
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Speaker 3: making fun of any of you, but you've watched what

479
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Speaker 3: a lot more. I mean, I'm sure none of you

480
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Speaker 3: have watched as many or one percent of you have

481
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Speaker 3: has watched as many snaps of Garrett as what. I

482
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Speaker 3: haven't either, but I've watched a lot and he is

483
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Speaker 3: jaw dropping. I mean, he's two eighty with von Miller

484
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Speaker 3: like bend in, almost Reggie White like power, like he

485
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Speaker 3: is in a lab. Now, his production's not as good,

486
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Speaker 3: but it ain't too bad.

487
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Speaker 2: You know, all this stuff out there on I mean

488
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Speaker 2: they've both been in the Lakes is twenty seventeen, right,

489
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Speaker 2: so there's a lot of parallel.

490
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Speaker 3: So anytime you see a stat the TJ.

491
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Speaker 2: Watt is first in this, Garrett a second, yep, and

492
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Speaker 2: Wat's first in most of them.

493
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Speaker 3: From sacks sacks per game, all that stuff. See.

494
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Speaker 2: To me, the force fumbles was a big part of

495
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Speaker 2: the monster because what has a huge lead there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's like the best ever at Yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: I mean it's he's Lawrence Taylor Lake. I mean, I

498
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Speaker 3: don't know who else has done it in history, but

499
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Speaker 3: he's taking it to a new level. I mean, he's

500
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Speaker 3: Peanut Tillman of edge rushers. I mean, it's unbelievable and

501
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want.

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Speaker 2: To get by the way, what's that, uh Peanut Tilman

503
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Speaker 2: punch punch? I think I could take?

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't get punched by t J. Watt.

505
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Speaker 3: He's he's bringing it from Kenosha. Yeah, I mean I

506
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: think he's helped make this popular. But you see it

507
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Speaker 3: around the league. Yeah, if I missed the ball and

508
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Speaker 3: happened to drill the guy in the arm, you know,

509
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Speaker 3: well he's gotten called.

510
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Speaker 2: He got called for that one time, I remember, because

511
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Speaker 2: he missed the ball and punched the guy in the gut.

512
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Speaker 3: It's like Joe Greed, you know, like that that used

513
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Speaker 3: to be illegal. But anyway, I mean, do I firmly

514
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Speaker 3: believe it to my grave that Garrett's a way better

515
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Speaker 3: player than what, of course not, I mean, there are

516
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Speaker 3: this close, but he is unbelievably impressive and off the

517
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Speaker 3: air you mentioned it's Troy vers ed Reed. What do

518
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 3: you want a wrong answer? No, I mean they're that good, fantastic, right,

519
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Speaker 3: And unlike a lot of local media, a large portion

520
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Speaker 3: of my income is doing national stuff. You know, it's

521
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: not just the Steelers, and it's my favorite part of it,

522
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Speaker 3: and it's the thing I do the most. But that's

523
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Speaker 3: my opinion. You know, it doesn't matter if he's a

524
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Speaker 3: Brown or a bear or a seahawk or whatever. He

525
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Speaker 3: just happens to be a Brown. And I happened to

526
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Speaker 3: work for the Browns. People are like, oh, you've loyally

527
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Speaker 3: the Browns. They fire me. I spent as much time

528
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Speaker 3: watching Ben Roethlisberger highlights as I did watching the Browns.

529
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Speaker 3: I said, Brown's gear home, nobody would wear it in franctly.

530
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Speaker 3: There was the best thing that ever happened to me.

531
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Speaker 3: Because then I got into media and got hired by

532
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Speaker 3: USPN like six months later. Right, I got to move

533
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Speaker 3: back to Pittsburgh, Right, my wife had kids, you know,

534
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Speaker 3: and I get hired by the Browns because that's a

535
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Speaker 3: team that offered if Kansas City would offer me a

536
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Speaker 3: scouting out of one to the Kansas City Chiefs. It's

537
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Speaker 3: not like I had a loyalty the Browns and I'm

538
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Speaker 3: just picking what teams I get to work for. They'll

539
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Speaker 3: just give out NFL job. Oh.

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Speaker 2: That was another thing when you said last week that

541
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Speaker 2: the that the Ravens were an organization that that you

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Speaker 2: would go.

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Speaker 3: Work respected and would work we would like to work for.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little hymp for you folks, Like I do

545
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Speaker 2: what I do now for the Steelers. Yeah, I didn't

546
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Speaker 2: always do what I do now for the Steelers.

547
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Speaker 3: Right.

548
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Speaker 2: For the first thirty years of my career, I worked

549
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Speaker 2: in for a newspaper news outlet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

551
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Speaker 2: At one point the Green Bay Packers wanted to hire

552
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Speaker 2: me to go work for them. Yeah, and I would

553
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Speaker 2: have done so had they offered a job.

554
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Speaker 3: I was been a similar capacity what you're doing now.

555
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Speaker 3: It's been very similar to what I do now, and

556
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: like what LA do I was. They flew me out there,

557
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Speaker 3: I sat down with them.

558
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Speaker 2: I was a finalist for the job, and in the

559
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Speaker 2: end they gave it to a local guy, which I understand,

560
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Speaker 2: But had they done so I'd be wearing green right now,

561
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Speaker 2: right right.

562
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Speaker 3: And you folks that make fries for McDonald's, if Wendy's

563
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Speaker 3: was going to give you a better deal, oh you

564
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: do it, you know what I mean, Like it's part

565
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Speaker 3: of the game. Doesn't mean that we don't love what

566
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: we do. We do otherwise we wouldn't do it, I mean, right.

567
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: And I grew up a Steelers fans since like crawl

568
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: and I knew anything. I mean, I wore Steeler gear

569
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Speaker 3: before they gave it to me. I mean, it's They're

570
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Speaker 3: definitely my choice number one, and I don't want to

571
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: leave that out, you know what I mean. But I

572
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Speaker 3: have respect for the Ravens organization. You're allowed to do that.

573
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to do that. One thing I think I

574
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Speaker 3: bring to the table that I think is lacking in

575
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Speaker 3: this town is an appreciation of the opponent. There's a

576
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Speaker 3: lot of good football in the NFL that's not in Pittsburgh.

577
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: Just be aware, you know, Yeah, and you lose sometimes

578
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Speaker 3: because of it. Yeah, Garrett's really good.

579
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Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that when something goes

580
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Speaker 2: wrong with the Steelers, well, they screwed that up a

581
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Speaker 2: lot of times. The opponent did something really well, right,

582
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: they're professionals as well.

583
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Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned Reid and Paula Malo, Like if

584
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Speaker 3: you grew up Hayting ray lewis great, you have that right,

585
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: but just recognize he's really good at the game, you know,

586
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: or Brady or whoever you know, Like they're still really good. Yeah,

587
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: that's part of the game too. Yep.

588
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: So one guy who has been really good against the

589
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: Browns in his career is Russell Wilson. I think you say, what, well,

590
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: he's really he's been really good against the Browns too.

591
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: But Russell Wilson three to ohero in his career against

592
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: the Browns with Seattle and Denver, a passer rating of

593
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Speaker 2: one fourteen point seven. That includes a win last year

594
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Speaker 2: for Denver against the Browns a game I think it

595
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: was thirty four to seven or something. I mean they

596
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: blew him out. It was twenty nine to twelve. Now,

597
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: his stats weren't overwhelming.

598
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: In that game.

599
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: He was thirteen to twenty two for one hundred and

600
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: thirty four yards in a touchdown, but he had a

601
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Speaker 2: ninety one point nine passer ratings That means he was

602
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: even better than that one fourteen point seven going down

603
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: to that game, but he didn't turn the ball over,

604
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: he only got sacked once. He ran eleven times for

605
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Speaker 2: thirty four yards.

606
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Speaker 3: In that game. Really okay, it was a number defense.

607
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: He also ran for a touchdown in that game, so

608
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: he accounted for two of the touchdowns in that twenty

609
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Speaker 2: nine to twelve victory.

610
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: To think about it, but there probably aren't many units

611
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: that got as much worse as the Browns defense from

612
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Speaker 3: last year to this year. Pretty and it's not all

613
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Speaker 3: their fault.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's some other've been on the field a lot, right,

615
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Speaker 2: But actually that was a really good unit.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things that kind of stood out to me when I

618
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Speaker 2: was looking over Cleveland's stats for this year. They've actually

619
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Speaker 2: got a they're on the positive side and time of possession.

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Speaker 3: I was a little shocked by that too. Yeah, I

621
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Speaker 3: don't quite know why.

622
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Speaker 2: The one thing their defense isn't doing this year is

623
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Speaker 2: taking the ball away. No, they have two interceptions.

624
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Speaker 3: I know that's rare. I mean it's almost hard to do,

625
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Speaker 3: and I think.

626
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: They've recovered four fumal so they have six turnovers this year.

627
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Speaker 2: That you went from having maybe arguably that the best

628
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: defensive football was certainly in.

629
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Speaker 3: The top three.

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and unbelievable at home. Unbelievable at home. They were

631
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: lights out at home, very average on the road. And

632
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: this year they've just been very average across.

633
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Speaker 3: The board, across the board and no big plays.

634
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's largely the same group of guys back.

635
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: It is the same coordinator everyone's talking to. Maybe another

636
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: head coaching job. He's got Miles Garrett dancing behind the

637
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and look at all the cool stuff

638
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: he's doing. Also really good players.

639
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Speaker 2: And that's another thing I don't like about Mountain. I

640
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: don't like that either, doing these basketball movies.

641
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Speaker 3: Get stop it, stop it. I'm not saying I like him,

642
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: as want to hang out with him.

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Speaker 1: Might be.

644
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Speaker 3: Now, I've talked about Miles Garrett Jersey. I've talked to

645
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: people up there and they say he's a nice guy. Supposedly.

646
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Speaker 2: And Tom tom Reid, who's been on our show before

647
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: when he was working for the Athletic actually went to

648
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Speaker 2: Africa with Miles Garrett and and wrote about that trip,

649
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: and I think he won awards for that that story.

650
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Speaker 3: I remember he was coming out his first overall pick.

651
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Speaker 3: They were talking about always off the field interests and

652
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, well spoken intelligence blah blah blah. But he

653
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Speaker 3: also flat out lied about about the Rudolph thing right

654
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: and Halloween stuff.

655
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: One of the most despicable lie that you could make up.

656
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: That's Terrible's pretty bad, really terrible.

657
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

658
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: But anyways, but Russell Wilson has been really good.

659
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Against the Browns. Yeah, I didn't know that. Told us now,

660
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: t J.

661
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Watt really good against the exception, right, But this is

662
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: just another instance where the Steelers quarterback. I think a

663
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: couple two of those wins have come in Cleveland, Wilson wins. Yeah, okay,

664
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: so the Steelers quarterback. It's not an easy place to play, No, it's.

665
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: Wins. It's always windy up there, no matter what. It

666
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: blew me away. When I moved.

667
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: We were up there in a September game one year,

668
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers opened the season up there, and

669
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: it's so it's like seventy five degrees, Sonny, and I'm

670
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: walking to my hotel and I'm like, this wind is unbelievable.

671
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. So I lived my whole life in Pittsburgh,

672
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: worked for pitt Panthers for three years, got the job

673
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: is the akron Zips go Zips. Justin That's right, right,

674
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: Justin Miller represent Yeah, man, Joe moorehead up there, trying

675
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: to turn it thing around as their director football Ops.

676
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, the weather's probably pretty similar. Yeah, No,

677
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean just walking to your car is an excursion

678
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: in the winter. It bundled up in a flat spot there.

679
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, See, I grew up in North

680
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: of A eighties, so I understand whether north close you

681
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: get to the lake the worst.

682
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Oh, of course it gets right. I mean I went

683
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: that was a pitch on sound as you were, and

684
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: there was a lot of snow there, but it wasn't

685
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: like that like that.

686
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: No, No, the winds the wind blow different there, so

687
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: you do have to deal with that up there. Well,

688
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're building the new stadium up there. At

689
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: least they've bought the land for it, and it's going

690
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: to be a dome stadium. I wish it would be retractable.

691
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Although I noticed Dallas had some issues with that last night,

692
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: stuff falling out of the sky.

693
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: Stuff falling off. Yeah, they had more than issue. That

694
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: was their only issue. They got more issues than that

695
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: going on with that organization as we speak. Yeah, that's

696
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: the least of their problems. Unless they killed somebody. Well, yeah,

697
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: that could have been a lot worse.

698
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: That could have been way worse. But so you know Wilson,

699
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: he's played, he played in Denver last year.

700
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Seattle's not exactly.

701
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: Seaddle's not a great right And if you if you

702
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: you see Russell Wilson, he's not the biggest guy. He's short,

703
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: he's vertically challenged. Yes, as quarterbacks go, he's short, but

704
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: he's not he's put together like a running back first

705
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: of all, very much. So.

706
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean I knew he was until I saw him

707
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: up close. It was like wow, I mean he's built. Yeah.

708
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: But the other thing that jumps out to you about

709
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is his hand size.

710
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: That's unusually large. I think it's over ten.

711
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a guy that size to have hands that big,

712
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: So gripping the football and spinning the football and weather, yeah,

713
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 2: I don't think his initially he's problem with at all.

714
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: He also doesn't have a real long, over the top,

715
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: long arm delivery or any of that kind of stuff too,

716
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: So he's played in a lot of weather. Seaddle's nasty. Yeah, yeah,

717
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: so I don't expect the weather to affect him at all.

718
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: And that's the first time it's come up that I've

719
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: been around since he's been a Steeler. He has unusually

720
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: large hand, Yeah, especially for a smaller quest.

721
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: He shook his hand today. We were had I interviewed

722
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: him for something. We were one on one name dropping

723
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: a little bit.

724
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: Nice work.

725
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, because I don't talk to anybody in the

726
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: locker room, you know, one on one or anything. It's

727
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: another comment that we had last week. How do you

728
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: know this, well, I talked to guys. Yeah, anyway, so

729
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm talking to us today and at the end of

730
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: it all, we shook hands and I'm like, his hand

731
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: just kind of enveloped my hands.

732
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: I think it's over ten, yeah, which is got a

733
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: big hand? Yeah, what has big hands?

734
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: Month first first thing when we met him, because they

735
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: brought him into us, we were doing a show during

736
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: the draft that year, and he comes over to us

737
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: from first of all, You're like, yeah, that's a first

738
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: round draft pick. Look, then he shook our hands. I'm

739
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: like Jesus, like his fingers wrapped around my hand twice.

740
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: The first time I saw Joey Porter Junior too, was similar. Yeah,

741
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: he shook my hand from across the room because his

742
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: arms are like terodactyls.

743
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: First, I'm like, wow, Yeah, you realize when you're when

744
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: you're around these guys, just what different human beings they are.

745
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Well, you learn that quick. But when you see the

746
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: outliers amongst the outliers as wow, you know there's definitely

747
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: some of that.

748
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just they're just built a little differently than

749
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: your Miles.

750
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Garrett's one of them, as much of an outlier as

751
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: you will ever find. Yeah, he gets all the way

752
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: back around to where we started at. Yeh, that's what

753
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: I was trying to do there, and I show buy you.

754
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

755
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly.

756
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

757
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this.

758
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

759
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

760
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

761
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: And we are back.

762
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson except

763
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: no imitations and uh Matt the Browns. Last week I

764
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier, and we had all kinds of issues

765
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: with Taysom Hill.

766
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: All kinds of issues. Yeah, and he turned the ball

767
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: over a fair amount. He turned the ball over twice.

768
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: He only touched the ball in seven berries and two

769
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: passes and Hank five catches. Sounds about right.

770
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: So fifteen fifteen times he turned the ball over twice,

771
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: but he scored three touchdowns and some.

772
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: Long ones and was probably the reason they won as

773
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: much as anything in that game.

774
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 2: So today Arthur Smith was asked about that and he said,

775
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, do you expect the Browns to have fixed

776
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: their issues against some of the read options stuff and

777
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: things of that nature. And of course Arthur Smith has

778
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: a unique appreciation for Taysom Hill, having played your division against.

779
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: Head coach trying to game plan against him twice a year.

780
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: He said, well, Taysom Hill is more. He's kind of

781
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: a unique individual because.

782
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: Him and fields aren't won for one.

783
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: No, no, not, he said, because you know they'll line

784
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill up at full back, they'll line Taysom Hill

785
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: up at wide receiver, tight end. Yeah, you know, quarterback obviously,

786
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: and running back. He said, you know, I'd be crazy

787
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: if I line justin field's.

788
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: Up a right right or lead block. I mean, yeah,

789
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: but some of what the.

790
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Browns dealt with was with some of the Reid option stuff.

791
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: So the Steelers, I mean, it's a short work week. Yeah, yeah,

792
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: the Browns aren't fixing that in one way. They didn't

793
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: practice yesterday. They practice it.

794
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna see some You already have that in

795
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: the playbook for the right it's already there. Yeah. Yeah.

796
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: And Smith did say that the Steelers wanted to get

797
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: to Justin Fields a little bit earlier in the game

798
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: against the Ravens.

799
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: They just didn't get in the right situation. Okay, It's

800
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: an effective weapon. You know, We've said that since before

801
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: the season. You know that. Hey, I think both of

802
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: us expected Wilson.

803
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: They signed him, they traded for him. I should say

804
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: the should there should be a package for Justin Fields. Yeah,

805
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't play any quarterback at all, you

806
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: should have a Justin Fields package.

807
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: Yes, I think we both agree, but we haven't talked

808
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: about it in a while. It's not just a goal

809
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: line red zone thing, no, because that neutralizes last week

810
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: aside Wilson's phenomenal red zone passing ability and what I

811
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: don't what I don't want to see, Matt.

812
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk out of both sides of

813
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: my mouth there, because there were a lot of times

814
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: like when the Steelers played if you remember back in

815
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, the Steelers played New Orleans down there.

816
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: That was the a begin when he just went, oh no,

817
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 3: he was uncoverable. Yeah, and Juju fumbled at the end.

818
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: In that game, if you remember, they took Drew Brees

819
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: out of the game at midfield, brought Taysom Hill in

820
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: and had him throw like a fifty yard pass that

821
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: got intercepted, which is kind of what happened last week

822
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: against the Browns. They had him chuck one deep and

823
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: he got intercepted. But you're taking Drew Brees off the field.

824
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: I used to have a lot of mixed feelings about that.

825
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't mind it so much.

826
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: When you're taking you know, Joe blow quarterback off the

827
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: field their carr right, right, that's different.

828
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peyton used to do that a lot too much,

829
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: too much. He ain't got really infatuated with it, and

830
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: that's he's in his prime. Yeah, And I never quite

831
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: got that, but it averaged over six yards to play

832
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Breeze seemed fine with it. It would be a play

833
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: or two. It Drew comes in on second and three like,

834
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: all right, thanks, it's a little easier. I got a

835
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: quick breather, got a little more water, talked to the

836
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: quarterback coach. So it's a balance, but you can get

837
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: a little too In fact, you get a little.

838
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it too much, and I

839
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: don't want to see it to your point all the

840
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: time in the red zone, right because a lot of

841
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: people are suggesting that to quote unquote fix the Steelers

842
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: red zone problem.

843
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: And the thing with the Saints right now is seeds

844
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: out all of laves manufactured at he can right and

845
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: cars not't as good as Wilson, and the line's on

846
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: as good. They don't run the ball as well. It's

847
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Kamara and Hill right now, so they're you know, kind

848
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: of pulling it out of nowhere. But that doesn't mean

849
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: you can't piggyback off.

850
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be fifteen touches for just justin fields

851
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: in this game like take some Hill last year.

852
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: No, but if he has five you know, rushes and

853
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: or passes, Okay, I get it.

854
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: And the other interesting is the thing that Smith said

855
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: today goes, Look, I don't view Justin Fields as a

856
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: specialty player.

857
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's a gimmick guy like Hill.

858
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: He's not a gadget player.

859
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: He said, I view this we have two starting quarterbacks.

860
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's true. I think even like when

861
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: Montana was strong, they would bring in Young because he

862
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: was a lot different. Yeah, he was such a great

863
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: runner at that time. People forget that about Young. He

864
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: came in the league as a raw running running And

865
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: you put Joe Montana on the sideline, you know. I

866
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 3: mean it's a little odd, you know. I mean even

867
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: Flacco was really good whenever Lamar was a rookie. But

868
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: how do you keep that off the field?

869
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: You know?

870
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: So it is a fine line.

871
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: You don't have joke over and standard wide receiver.

872
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: Don't pay ten on eleven and you get him off

873
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: the field. I never understood that at all. You just

874
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: stand there and be tall. But no, I think it's

875
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: a great week to do it. And Wilson, I'm sure

876
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: is fine. He's fine with it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

877
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: I don't been asked about him multiple times. They're friends.

878
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like he's on the sideline sulking

879
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: or anything like that. It helps you win.

880
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would expect to see some of that

881
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: in this game, just because the Browns had such a

882
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: problem dealing with it last week. The good thing to

883
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: put on tape just for something else to prepare for.

884
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: That's the other thing is it makes the future opponents

885
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: now have to take a longer look at it.

886
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and even like it's a much different story.

887
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: But the last two weeks, the way they played defense

888
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: is a lot different than the first eighth or whatever. Well,

889
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: now what is the he was gonna do against us?

890
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. You know, the more you put on tape,

891
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: the harder it is to prepare. And by the way,

892
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: it's a super short week, super short week. Yeah, yeah,

893
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: so we'll see.

894
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: You know what kind of little they're not even wrinkles

895
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: for the Steelers because they practice this stuff all the time.

896
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: They have they have six games of justin fields to

897
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: work with absolutely in a ton of camp. Yeah, you know,

898
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: so they know, they know what he likes to run,

899
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: they know. And the other thing he doesn't have to

900
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: just run, I mean he can throw it, could drop

901
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: back and run the exact same offense. Wilson does as long.

902
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: As Because the thing is, now, when you bring him

903
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: in in those specialty situations, a lot of times it's

904
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: alert for the defense. Oh he's gonna run the football here? Yeah, yeah,

905
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: because oh why else would they bring him in? Well,

906
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: now you might have something open down the field that

907
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have somebody leaks out.

908
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: And it might be true every week, but I bet

909
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: it's especially true this week because there's no prep time

910
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: and they just saw it on tape for the first time.

911
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking through a Browns perspective because I love the Browns.

912
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, you kept all that brown stuff, didn't you. eBay.

913
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: I actually still have a sweatshirt that says Williamson on it.

914
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: That thing. Yeah, But anyway, so their defensive coordinator might

915
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, our only answer to what field's coming

916
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: out there is we're checking the cover two, you know,

917
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: whatever it is, We're gonna have some alert and we're

918
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: gonna check to something. Maybe it's two different coverages or

919
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: two calls, but it's not the whole defensive playbook, right

920
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: without question, And Arthur Smith's going to catch you on

921
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: to that, you know all the That's what the assistant

922
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: coaches are doing. They're like, every time Justin's out there,

923
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: they're running cover two. Okay, well let's call it cover

924
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: two beater, you know what I mean. You know he

925
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: can do it, yeah, right, you know he can do

926
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: all the traditional quarterback stuff. Use the weapon, Yeah, use

927
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: the weapon one more card, you know, yeah, you know.

928
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: And it does give you if if the idea is

929
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: is just you know, run a quarterback draw, it does

930
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: give you different looks in the running game.

931
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: And you can have him out there without a running back.

932
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: I mean you could have ten blockers with him or

933
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: still have the massive run threat. Yeah, so it's different

934
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: looks running behind Arnold Washington. Just a different club in

935
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: your bag. And why wouldn't you. Yeah, I got to

936
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: use it.

937
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: And the thing is, and people I think were wondering

938
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: why they didn't use it as much over the first

939
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: few weeks of when Wilson was in there, and Fields

940
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: told me last week, I mean he got his knee

941
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: got banged up a little bit when he was starting.

942
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: Remember he was third guy for a game or two, right, Yeah,

943
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: well that was because of the hamstring, different injury. Yeah

944
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: that was a hamstring, but he got banged on the knee.

945
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: At one point when he was starting, and that's why

946
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: he wasn't running as much as a starter. Okay, So

947
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: I think now he's more completely healthy, held out a

948
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: lot like. As good a runner as he's been for

949
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers, he's been better with the Bears. I mean

950
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: when you see him healthy.

951
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean really, if you look at the the the

952
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: eight yard game that he had last week, when he

953
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: slid right, that's that looked like justin fields.

954
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: His gait and the way he accelerated and all that.

955
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Around the movement. Right, I'll get my eight yards. He

956
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: needed one more, Yeah, that would have been nice, but

957
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: it all worked out. Bob was going to lose his

958
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: mind when he slid, was.

959
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: Shoulder down to get the yard right out there. For one,

960
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings on this. What do you think

961
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: about on third and one, fourth and one almost push

962
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: push situation. You're not even hiding it, You're just bringing

963
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: in all the big dogs and he lines up behind

964
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: center and nine out of ten times is gonna sneak it.

965
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: Here's the issue I have with that I have won,

966
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: and it's quarterback center exchange.

967
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because we haven't seen those prop up nearly

968
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: as much as and.

969
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, as I was watching from home that play,

970
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: we were just talking about, I'm like, this is a

971
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: crucial play and this is a guy that screws up

972
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: center snaps. I'm like, leave russ In and it worked,

973
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, and more often than not, it's gonna be fine. Yeah,

974
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: he does have a history.

975
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want to see that crop up

976
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: in one of those situations where you turn the ball

977
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: over because you've missed an exchange right right, right, And

978
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: again that's something you continue to work on him.

979
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: Maybe he's gotten better at it, but I'm sure, but

980
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: it's just it happened. I mean, it's on tape right, Yeah,

981
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: it's there.

982
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break that's going to do it

983
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: for our number one of the drive here on the

984
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and Now will be back with

985
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: our number two right after this