1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Our guest tonight, our first guest, only guest tonight since 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: it's Friday and the open lines, is Brad Stuart. It's 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: the first time he's ever been on Coast to Coast AM. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: He's practiced internal medicine in his office, He's practiced in 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: the emergency room the hospital, the ICU. Really nice guy 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: to talk with. I really enjoyed the conversation we've had already, 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: just to kind of say hey and get to know 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: each other. He spent twenty five years as a hospice 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: medical director. That's tough. I'll tell you what. That takes 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: a lot of strength. Founded a national model of care 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: assist people with serious illness at home. But most importantly, 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: he learned how to become a healer. And you can 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: find out well. You can go to his website. It's 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Brad Stuart MD dot com and you spell Stuart with 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: the Stuart MD dot com. That's where you can find him. 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: His book is Faith Seeing Faith Seeing Death. We can 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: talk about that, but just in general, I mean, Brat, 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: thank you welcome for to be here on COASTAKOSAM and 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: it's a joy to talk with you because we just 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 2: had some great conversation before and I think we're both conversationalists. 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Connie. It's great to be here. And 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: that's a compliment. I appreciate it. 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you. What I really liked a 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: lot is that you have the spiritual thing going, you 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: have this, you have the scientific thing happening, but you 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: also know that there's some things outside of that box 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: and you you're admitting to them, and I think that's fantastic. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: And you you're saying, well, there's some sort of science 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: to it, right, Oh. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been In fact, I'm sure we'll get way 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: into this, but science, science is the root of our 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: knowledge of this world. And you know, I'm happy to 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: say that I've been devoted to science for about fifty 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: years or more as a physician. And you know, I 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: think science has given us not total answers to questions, 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: but they point us in the right direction. That being said, 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: science has limits, and I think some of the things 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about tonight around the end of 40 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: life and what may come after, especially you know, getting evidence, 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: I think scientific evidence from people who have died in 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: ICUs and been revived and have a story to tell 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: that's scientific evidence, and I think it's going to probably 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: force science to question its assumptions about materialism, you know, 45 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: the brain being the only thing that produces the mind. 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I think we have plenty of time here to launch 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: our ourselves into what may be reality apart from an 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: above and beyond what science has to tell us. 49 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Now you're on coast to coast am Okay, So we 50 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: have been talking about this since like the early nineties. 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: This is what we talk about every night we are open. 52 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: You have millions of people here that come and listen 53 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: to this show specifically so we can talk about these 54 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: kinds of things. So we've been talking about this stuff 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: for decades. This is nothing new to us. So do 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: you think science is finally just getting here to where 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: we are? Because we used to be laughed at all 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: the time, and now people are really big into it. 59 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: And we've been talking about this for a long long time. 60 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: We don't care that it's science or not. But I 61 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: know science cares about that, So I mean, what do. 62 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: You think of that. 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: Science does care about that? In fact, I was very 64 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: disappointed to read the latest article in the Medical Scientific 65 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: literature about near death experiences. It came out in one 66 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: of the Nature journals. Nature is one of the foremost 67 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: scientific journals in the world. And you know, my disappointment 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: came from right up front. They said, you know, we 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: will only be discussing near death experiences and what may 70 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: cause them in terms of brain chemistry. We will not 71 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: be exploring anything beyond beyond that. They call it dualism 72 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: when you begin to talk about something other than the 73 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: body surviving after death. And you know, my problem with 74 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: that is that there are so many reports now coming 75 00:04:53,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: straight out of some of the most scientifically based clinical areas. 76 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Is that you can find, you know, the ICUs and 77 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: major medical centers. There are stories coming out of there 78 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: that really tell us that there is something beyond what 79 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: happens to us when the body dies. And so I 80 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: think what it might be nice to talk about tonight 81 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: is how to prepare yourself when you're in this life 82 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: for the end of it. And then we can also, 83 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: of course touch on what we're discovering now what might 84 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: lie beyond that from a scientific point of view, because 85 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: I think more and more of it is scientific. 86 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: And I don't think any of us really care if 87 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: it's scientific or not, we just believe in it. So 88 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: it's we already know that there's something out there for 89 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: the most part, and so whether it's scientific or not, 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: whether it has to be proved or not, sometimes you 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: don't have to have all that. We just know it 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: and we're happy about that and we move on to 93 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: other things. But I know a lot of other people 94 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: have to have things proven and that's where the science 95 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: comes in, and those to me, it's just like, I 96 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: know it goes on and I'm happy about that, but 97 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't have to prove it to anybody. I'm just 98 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 2: so happy. I feel that way, which does get into 99 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: the end of the life teachings. Holy cow, I think 100 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: that is a fantastic thing. I never really knew or 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: thought about any of the end of life type things 102 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: because I've never had to deal with that. Even though 103 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: I've had people pass away around me, it wasn't like 104 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: we got into a lot of the things that you do. 105 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: And I think it's really really cool. So can you 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: teach us more about what happens when people get to 107 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: the end of their life? And I guess they know 108 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: there's a time amount of time. Maybe is that when 109 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: people start learning a little bit more about it and 110 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: turning into hey, think about what's happening next. When they 111 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: make that turn, I'm probably I'm sure you've seen when 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: somebody makes that turn to going realizing I'm going to 113 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: pass away. And is that the proper phrase to say, Well. 114 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: You can call it making the turn. I think what 115 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: it sounds like you're referring to there is when someone 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: begins to really look at what is going to happen 117 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: when their life ends. And the interesting thing about that 118 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: is that most people, I'd say almost everyone who is say, 119 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: living a healthy life and has something happen like a 120 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: cancer diagnosis, and has to or could begin looking at 121 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: the end of their lives, most people will do anything 122 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: but turn the corner, as you call it. I'd call 123 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: it more getting over the hump, because I think there's 124 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: a huge emotional wall stands between us when we're alive 125 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: and happy and functioning and us when we're actually ready 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: to leave this life. There's a mountain to climb for 127 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: many people, and on the other side of that mountain 128 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: is what you're looking at. When people are really ready 129 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: to let go and move on. Some people make that 130 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: transition really, really easily many other people, it really takes 131 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: some work, and that's why in my own medical career, 132 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: saving lives was very interesting for about a decade, and 133 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: then I discovered that the most fascinating people were the 134 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: ones that I couldn't save. And that's when the real 135 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: work starts. Is when you discovered, together as a doctor 136 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: and patient that a person is really not going to survive, 137 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: and breaking news and working your way through to where 138 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: you can really let go to what can lie beyond, 139 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: that's the real work, and for a lot of people 140 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: it's serious work. 141 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: Well, you had stated that fear of dying is wired 142 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: into our body and brain. 143 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Yes it is. I mean that's what's so interesting about 144 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: talking about what can lie beyond the end of life. 145 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: That's easy to talk about and imagine when you're in 146 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: a body, but when you're really confronted with the fact 147 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: that your body is going to stop existing and you 148 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: know that's coming, I think it's impossible to not come 149 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: up against a certain amount of fear. I don't think 150 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: I've ever met anyone out of hundreds and hundre of 151 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: people who doesn't hit kind of a panic stage there 152 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: Because you're so conditioned to life going on one day 153 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: leads to the next. You kind of know what to expect, 154 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: and suddenly there's this very very new thing that you 155 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: have never experienced. You may think, and I think many 156 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: people who feel their spiritual are pretty sure that they've 157 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: kind of got the death thing wired and they aren't 158 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: going to mind if they find out that they may die. 159 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: Most of those people wind up very surprised to discover 160 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: that it's a shock. In fact, I went through that myself. 161 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with cancer after I had dealt with 162 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: dying people for a long time, and it knocked me 163 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: for a loop. I was totally unprepared for that, and 164 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: I tell the story in my book. It's something that 165 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: you really have to work your way through and sink 166 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: into and feel because it's a feeling thing. You can't 167 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,119 Speaker 3: think your way through it. And it's a mystery, and 168 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: it's something that you can't just sit down and figure out. 169 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Facing Death is his book. You can find that 170 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: on Amazon. You can also write it's on Amazon as well. 171 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Right that you can go to Brad Stewart MD dot 172 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: com and find it there and look at it. I 173 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: was interested in the lady saying, what was it more 174 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: like a bunch of ants, because because I always thought 175 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: that too, that's what we are. We're primitive little ants, 176 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: just kind of doing our thing. We have no idea 177 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: how huge it is around us and how primitive we 178 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: really are. And it was really interesting to hear her 179 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: say that in your book. 180 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Stephanie, and I was funny. She my 181 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: wife were very close. I knew Stephanie pretty well for 182 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: quite a while before she was diagnosed with cancer, and 183 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: she really had a difficult time of it, went through 184 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: some really tough chemo and had had a problem in 185 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: the hospital. She needed to get chemo that was so 186 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: potent that she had to be hospitalized to receive it. 187 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: And so she was in the hospital one night after 188 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: getting a serious chemo session and got up to go 189 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: to the bathroom, had a seizure, passed out, hit her head, 190 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: and you know, it could have been a real tragedy. 191 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: She woke up in the hospital and it was sort 192 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: of the opposite of a tragedy. She she told me 193 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: that when she woke up, she was in a different place. 194 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: And it turned out she's one of the few people 195 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: I've met who began to understand and live and experience 196 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: being in a place that I think if you look 197 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: at stories people tell when they die and are revived 198 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: and come back and have a near death experience, she 199 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: got to experience that before she died and in a way, 200 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: and she called it the knowledge Place, and it really 201 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: resembles what the stories people tell when they come back 202 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: from the other side. She was very peaceful. She had 203 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: a couple of teenage daughters and she knew they would 204 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: be okay. She actually was ready to go. And you know, 205 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: I was very impressed by her story because, like I said, 206 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: I think she's the only person that had some real 207 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: experience of what it might be like on this side 208 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: before she actually transitioned to the other side. 209 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that big bump on the head, man, that was 210 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: like crossing over coming back without even anybody helping her 211 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: come back, right, it just seemed like what did they 212 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: Nobody was there to help her. After she got the 213 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: bump on the head for a little bit, right, she 214 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: went she like crossover then came back, is what I'm gathering, 215 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: before anybody even found her. 216 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: That could be. The funny thing was she survived, went 217 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: back home, and she had a very difficult time from 218 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: a clinical standpoint. The cancer had invaded her neck, her spine, 219 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: right below her her skull, and she was really basically paralyzed, 220 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: had to be cared for in bed. She couldn't move 221 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: on her own, she had a lot of pain, and 222 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: she was in the kind of state where it would 223 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: have taken many people to the point where they wouldn't 224 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: want to live anymore. She was exactly the opposite. And 225 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: I had to go at her at her home a 226 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: couple of times because I didn't actually believe until I 227 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: sat with her for a few hours each time and 228 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: came to understand the place that she had come to. 229 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: She she went to the knowledge place and she stayed there. 230 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: And I don't think I've seen that many times, but 231 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: it's it was a chance to really be with someone 232 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: who was truly at peace before they died. She had 233 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: she had let go long before she actually was at 234 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: the point of leaving her body. 235 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at 236 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 237 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: dot com for more