1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: So before Joe Biden left office, what did he do well? 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: He pardoned a whole bunch of people, including his family. 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, the guy who told us he was never 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: involved in his son's business dealings, who obviously lied to 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: us because ten percent went to the big guy. But 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: it looks like his whole family was involved as well. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: But who else did he pardon? He pardoned Anthony Fauci. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Why would Anthony Fauci need a pardon? Might you ask? 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I figured, after seeing the news, we would have the 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: guy who asked Fauci these kinds of questions during Senate 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: committee hearings. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Listen, you've been vaccinated and you parade around in two 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: masks for show. No, you can't get it again, there's 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: almost there's virtually zero percent chance you're going to get it. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: And you're telling people them that have had the vaccine 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: who have immunity. You're defying everything we know about immunity 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: by telling people to wear a mask of in vaccinating. Instead, 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: you should be saying there is no science to say 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: we're going to have a problem from the large number 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: of people vaccinated. You want to get rid of vaccine hesitancy, 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: filming wearing their mask after they get the vaccine. 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: You want people to get. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: The vaccine, give him a reward instead of telling them 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: that the nanny state's going to be there for three 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: more years and you've got to wear a mask forever. 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: People don't want to hear it. 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: There's no science behind it. 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, let me just state for the record that masks 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: are not theater. Masks are protective, and. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: We have community there theater. If you already have immunity, 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: you're wearing a mask to give comfort to others. You're 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: not wearing a mask because of any science. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: So you know the voice, that's Senator ram Paul. Who 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: better to have this conversation about why Anthony Fauci would 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: need to be pardoned than him. I'm also going to 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: get his take on President Trump reinstating or unvaccinated military heroes. Look, 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: we still don't know the full extent of vaccine injuries 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: in this country, you know, will we ever know? Is 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: there a way to remove the liability protection for these 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: vaccine manufacturers. I'm going to get Rampaul on that as well. 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: He's also the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, so 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him about what's ahead over these next 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: four years. 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: For him. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: What's the biggest priorities on his list as chairman. Lastly, 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him about something as Dad said back 47 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, Listen, the FBI. 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: Is not a perfect institution, and they've also been known 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: to violate civil liberties. They run sting operations, and of 50 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: course they spy on sences. I think of what the 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: FBI did with Martin Luther King, which was strictly an 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 4: unconstitutional act to develop all this information on a lot 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: of private citizens where there's no threat. It was used 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: as a political weapon and we all know that. I 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: mean Jay or Hoover used to hold the evidence and 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: he could intimidate a politician quite frequently. 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: So what can President Trump and this Congress do about 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: the FBI? All of that and more was Senator ram Paul. 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: But before we get to Senator Ram Paul. 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So why did 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden pardon Anthony Fauci. 78 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: You don't typically pardon innocent people, So I don't know. 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: I think history's going to look harshly on him. Harshly 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: on Anthony Falci's accepting the pardon. There actually is some 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Supreme Court doctrine that says acceptance of a pardon is 82 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: accepting guilt. It's kind of hard to know what he's 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: guilty of, since the pardon just preemptively pardons him for anything, 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, murder, rape, assault, you name it. He's pardoned 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: for anything that happened between twenty fourteen and about two 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: weeks ago. But really what he's being pardoned for is 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: his culpability with relationship to the pandemic and to the 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: money that funded the lab work in Wuhan that we 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: think to the pandemic. And this still is being investigated. 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: And one of the upsides to this is one, he's 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: not going to escape history's judgment because of his pardon. 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: He will be judged harshly by history. But two, if 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: we do need to bring him in for questioning, he 94 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: can no longer use the Fifth Amendment. He can't say 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: fears self incrimination. They won't answer the questions, but our 96 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: plan to bring him in and will depend on what 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: we find. There's some very specific conversations that we want 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: to hear about the research in Wuhan had to be 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: approved by somebody we want to see. We know there's 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: a meeting that happened, and they won't send us the 101 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: contents of a meeting. If we get the deliberations, we 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: want to know who is at the meeting. But then 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: most importantly, after that meeting. Why didn't did the research 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: in Muhan not go to the safety committee? There's a 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: safety committee set up in twenty seventeen. It was supposed 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: to see dangerous research. Why do they bypass it? Who 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: made the decision? Was that decision ultimately approved by Anthony Fauci? 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: So there is a or Francis Collins. We're going to 109 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 3: find that out. We have been steadfastly stiff stiff armed 110 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: for about three or four years on this. The NIH 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: is more secretive than the CIA, and when they won't 112 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: show you something, you start to wonder what it is. 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: And through freedom of information, we discovered that these meetings exist. 114 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: They call them Duel Use Research of Concerns SPLASH GAIN 115 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: a function meeting and we know that the funding to 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: go to the Wuhan lad was discussed, but we have 117 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: not been given any of the discussion. Who is at 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: the meeting and who made the final approval. We're going 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of that though. I think 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: the new administration is going to help us. But I 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: also now have subpoena power in my committee. This is new. 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: This is the first time the chairman's had subpoena power 123 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: and I've issued fourteen subpoenas to fourteen different agencies, and 124 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: we're beginning to get documents. I don't have a HINGO 125 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: report yet on the documents, but we plan on revealing 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: all of them. There's no reason to keep anything secret 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: at all needs to be given to the public. 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: And do you think with a newly incoming at some 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: point Jay Abaticharia, doctor j Bidcharia at Nih, I assume 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you'd be helpful with that interning. I mean this is 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's he has not approved of the way 132 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: that Anthony Fauci, you know, the things that he has done, 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: so I would imagine you would get a cooperative partner 134 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: in Jay Abaticharia. 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Jabatataria followed all of 136 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: this stuff. I read the Greater Bear Declaration. You know, 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: I followed him throughout the pandemic. He was somebody who 138 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: I didn't know before the pandemic, but so many of 139 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: these people came forward that, you know, began to see 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: what they're writing and their reasonableness. Him, Scott Atlas who 141 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: was in the previous administration, Marty McCarey from John Hopkins. 142 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Uh So, I think they all will you know, Marty 143 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: McCarey at FDA and Jay Batichari at NIH will be approved. 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: I think that they will open the records. They believe 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: in transparency, and they also are like me that I 146 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: think that there needs to be a legislative fixed. We 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: need something done to make sure that there really is 148 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: an objective committee looking at this and that one person 149 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci or one person can't bypass the Safety Committee. Ever, again, do. 150 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: You think Fauci has perjured himself before? And if called 151 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: to testify, do you think he would perjure himself Again? 152 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: I think he's a dissembler and a purser of words, 153 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: which is a nice way of saying he's a liar. 154 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: But basically what he does is he comes in and 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: he says, well, it's not gain to function because this 156 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: is the definition of gain of function, so therefore it 157 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: can't be gain to function. So then we have the 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: acting director of the NIH come in and he says, well, 159 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: according to the general understanding of gain of function, sure 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: it's gain of function, but according to our specific definition 161 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: of game function, it's not. We know that the research 162 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: was so dangerous that one of the reasons ECO health 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: that was working with the Chinese on this got reprimanded 164 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: is they did not report when it had growth that 165 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: I believe was a thousandfold greater than it should have been. 166 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: When that growth wasn't reported, that was evidence of gain 167 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: of function, and at that point, obviously it would be 168 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: gain of function. What Anthony Fouche would say is because 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: he's a guy that's going to be you don't last 170 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: forty years at the top of government without being clever 171 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: with words. He would say, Well, viruses that aren't already 172 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: known to be pandemic viruses can't be gain to function 173 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: because we don't know their pandemic viruses. Which is really 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: kind of insane because they take two viruses, coronaviruses that 175 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: are more animal viruses, but then when they put them together, 176 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: they run them through animal cells, they run them through 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: mice that have human lungs, and they do that. They 178 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: do it over and over again to try to get 179 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: the virus to mutate towards adapting to grow in human cells. Well, 180 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: you're creating something that grows in human cells, you are 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: gaining a function. You were doing something that's dangerous, and 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: you are massaging this virus and pushing it through natural 183 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: selection or through laboratory selection towards something that's more infectious 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: to humans. All of that's true. I don't know how 185 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: he can get away with a straight face or anybody 186 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: who'd believe him by saying, well, but according to the 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: way we wrote the definition. But it got so bad 188 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: that in the middle of this whole fight, he showed 189 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: up one day and they'd changed the definition at midnight 190 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: the night before on the website. We actually downloaded the 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: definition and confronted him with the new definition, and when 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: he said it wasn't gain a function, we said, what 193 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: you mean, according to the new definition you put on 194 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: the website at midnight last night, it's changemanship, but it's dishonest. 195 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, and they did that with vaccines too, you know, 196 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: they kept changing the definition of what it meant to 197 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: be vaccinated, you know, speaking of which President Trump has 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: reinstated or unvaccinated unvaccinated military heroes. We still don't know 199 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the full extent of vaccine injuries in this country, will 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: we ever know? And also is there a way to 201 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: remove the liability protection for vaccine manufacturers. 202 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: I'm very proud of President Trump for, you know, getting 203 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: these people back there was eight thousand. I think military 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: folks that separated for lack of a vaccine. Some of them, 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: you know, I became friends with and we met. They 206 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: came to the office, and they came to testify. One 207 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: of them was a pilot for an F thirty five, 208 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: and we estimated that the taxpayers spent thirty one million 209 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: dollars training this pilot. You know, it's not Everard Joe 210 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Smith down the road can fly and F thirty five. 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: We spent all this money to get him well trained. 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: And he was like in year seventeen or something, very 213 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: very valuable to us as a country, and was getting 214 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: ready to separate. But fortunately he and a few others 215 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: held on and weren't separated until we got rid of 216 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: the mandate. This is the first vaccine mandate we've ever removed, 217 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: So it was a big deal. Even though we lost 218 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: some battles, and you know, there's a lot that was 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: lost civil liberties wise, you know, winning a battle against 220 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: a mandatory vaccine mandate, peeling it, and then electing a 221 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: president that's actually going to reinstate these people. These are 222 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: just huge victories. So I'm very excited about it. On 223 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: liability protection, this actually passed I think back in the 224 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: eighties and my dad was one of the few votes 225 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: against it. What they do is come to you and 226 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: they say, well, we can never get these vaccines, there's 227 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: not much profit in them, which is not true really, 228 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: and we'll never get them to make it unless we 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: protect them from liability. The problem with protection of liability 230 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: is you can see it from a business side and say, oh, 231 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: this is good. It's good once you have liability protection. 232 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: What obligation do you have or what incentive do you 233 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: have not to have significant side effects that would harm 234 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: people if nobody can sue you, And then people do 235 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: sue the government. They set up this government injury program 236 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: and so there's four billion dollars that have been passed 237 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: out in it, but doesn't change the manufacturer's behavior because 238 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: the manufacturers not being punished through liability. So I'd say 239 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: the odds of changing liability, I would vote to put 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: liability back in, but it would get a small number 241 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: because all the apologists would say, oh, we'll never have 242 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: any vaccines. Nobody will do it without liability. But it's 243 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: actually the opposite. Look at the extraordinary money that Fiser 244 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: and Maderna made. They made so much money that the 245 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: government said, oh, we you owe us some because we 246 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 3: share in the patent. They got one point two trillion 247 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: dollars out of Piser and Maderna that went back to NIH, 248 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: which sets up a whole nother quandary of conflict of interest, 249 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: because if one point two trillion dollars is coming in 250 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: from two companies, how's the NIH and the FDA going 251 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: to judge them without a conflict Because interest in so 252 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: much money flowing back in from big Pharma. 253 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: We've got more set at a rampall in just a moment. 254 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: But first, after more than a year of war, terror 255 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: and pain in Israel, there's still demand for basic humanitarian aid. 256 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is supported and 257 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: continues to support those in the Holy Land still facing 258 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: the lingering horrors of war, and those who are desperate 259 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: need right now. 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Or call eight eight eight 269 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: four a eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight or eight 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I SDJ eight eight eight four a eight four three 271 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: two five. I mean, you talked about the loss of 272 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: liberty that we saw during COVID. How much do you 273 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: think this election was a response to that of people 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: just kind of like want to, you know, get off 275 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: my lawn type election. 276 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: I think it's a part of it. It's a part 277 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: of it, particularly for the you know, the people who 278 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: believe in medical freedom that were followers through Bobby Kennedy. 279 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: I think some of those were not traditional Republican voters. 280 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: Their independence, their moms, their libertarian leading moms, or people 281 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: leave me alone kind of moms and dads, but a 282 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of women, and I think some 283 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: of those came to the movement for that reason. I 284 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: think some of the military did, some doctors and nurses 285 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: who were let go came to the movement over this, 286 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: But it was a combination of things. I think there 287 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: are also people that didn't, you know, that were saddened 288 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: by the death of Lake and Riley and the idea 289 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: that people were illegal in our country. We could have 290 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: sent him home and didn't, and then they killed this 291 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: you know, innocent young woman. It's just a tragedy and 292 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: it didn't happen once. You know, there are many high 293 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: profile there was a I guess a young girl killed 294 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: in Texas as well and other places. But I think 295 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: it's a combination of things that got Trump in and 296 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: then the utter incompetence of the Biden administration and inflation 297 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: and hurt them as well. 298 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, speaking of the immigration aspect. So you 299 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: were the chairman at the Homeland Security Committee, I think 300 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: that I mean, you already know you've got your work 301 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: cut out for you with trying to roll back the 302 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: open borders and the damage that's been done over these 303 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: past four years. Sort of what's at the top of 304 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: your list your objectives for the committee as we look 305 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: forward and trying to deal with that crisis. 306 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: Well, we had our first hearing actually before President Trump 307 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: was sworn in, and we talked about the belief that 308 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: the current immigration laws, even without a new law, give 309 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: the president a great deal of latitude. We believe that 310 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,359 Speaker 3: remained in Mexico is something that the statutes already approved. 311 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: Trump did it to executive action, Biden undid it, and 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: now Trump has reinstated it. I actually believe that the 313 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: immigration law is the president enough latitude that if you're 314 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: coming across the river, you can be put right back 315 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: on the Mexican side. What we were seeing instead is 316 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: we were seeing immigration agents, directed by Biden, cutting the 317 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: concertina wire and helping them into Texas, putting them in 318 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: some four year odyssey of waiting for a detainment trial 319 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: or an immigration trial, never getting it, never coming back, 320 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: and being flown all over the US. I think everybody 321 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: thought that was absurd, But most of us think, you know, 322 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: why is somebody coming illegally brought into the country. If 323 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: you catch them in the act, why don't you just 324 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: put them right back on the other side. I think, frankly, 325 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: if we did that all the time, and we've got 326 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people down there on the border, rail 327 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: put them back into the side, and if Mexico complains, 328 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: let them complain. We'll see what they want to do 329 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: about it. But it's not like we'll be really getting 330 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: into their soil well, taking them up to the water's edge. 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: Putting them on the other side. But then you wouldn't 332 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: do all the processing and talking about building massive tents 333 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: and camps down there. I think that's a disaster, I think. 334 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: But just put them all back on the other side, 335 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: and I think they're quick coming pretty quickly, and then 336 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: you know, we'll see where it goes. I think he's 337 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: already been a dramatic lowering of numbers, and I think 338 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: most people, I think even some Democrats are cheering at 339 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: the arrest of you know, they just arrested. I think 340 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: yesterday the leader of this gang from Venezuela that was, 341 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: you know, harassing and assaulting people in Alura, Colorado. They 342 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: found him in New York with weapons. It's like these 343 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: people are moving around. He's already gone from a Laura 344 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: to New York City, but they found him. So now 345 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm with the president on this, and I think we're 346 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: going to see a dramatic change, and I think the 347 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: public is actually excited to see a president's actually doing 348 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: some work. 349 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've seen videos of some of these 350 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: illegal aliens telling people to you know, don't come there 351 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: like they're going to send you you know, right, So 352 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: it's good that the message it's like the complete opposite 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: message of what we had when Joe Biden took off, 354 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: as when it was basically like you know, come green light. 355 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Now it's like, nope, don't do this. You know you're 356 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: going to get sent right back, you know. So you're 357 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: a fiscal conservative, obviously, mass deportations it's going to cost money. 358 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: When we look ahead at whatever reconciliation build the House 359 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: in the Senate comes up with soon, what should funding 360 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: look like in that for for mass deportations and sort 361 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of how do you how do you balance the fact 362 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: that you know, we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt 363 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: with also the priority of getting these bad guys out 364 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: of our country. 365 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: I think the biggest threat to our country is from within, 366 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: and it's our debt. I think it's greater than any 367 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: external threat. It's even greater than the immigration problem. It 368 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: is our debt. So I won't be a blank check 369 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: even for you know, somebody who wants forty billion dollars 370 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: for a wall. A wall's part of the answer. But 371 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: forty billion dollars is not a conservative notion. A lot 372 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 3: of the border really, frankly, will never get walls. It's 373 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: either Indian reservations, it's mountains or private ranchers that aren't 374 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: selling in the cities and the busy thoroughfares. I think 375 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: the wall makes some sense, but as far as wanting 376 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: money but sending two hundred billion dollars to Ukraine, I'll 377 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: vote to repurpose two hundred billion dollars from Ukraine to 378 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: the southern border, but I won't just keep voting to 379 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: add on. So some of the Republicans are wanting to 380 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: use this process called reconciliation where we vote by simple majority, 381 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: and they're saying, oh, yeah, we want to do it 382 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: because we want to bust the military caps. So really 383 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: half of my caucus is talking every day about I 384 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: want they want to spend more money in the military, 385 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: and then some of them want more money on the 386 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: on the border. But then none of them are really 387 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: interested in cuts. So I presented forty different cuts, two 388 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: mandatory programs that we could do. The biggest one on 389 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: my list was when Obama added all these new young, 390 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: healthier people to Medicaid in twenty ten, he added them 391 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: with the government the cetle government pays ninety percent, the 392 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: states pay ten percent. The split normally fifty. So if 393 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: you just took all these medicaid people and you didn't 394 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: kick them off, you just said it's going to be 395 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. So the states are going to have 396 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: to pony up, and either states ought to raise taxes 397 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: or the state's office set the limitations to have some 398 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: of these people go back to the private sector. If 399 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: you did that, that's five hundred billion over ten years. 400 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of changes like that where we 401 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: make the states more responsible. And the states aren't inherently 402 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: more conservative, but because most states have some limitations, they 403 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: don't have a federal reserve. It's good to shift burden 404 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: back to the states and then maybe the states get 405 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: fed up enough to do something about it. But if 406 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: they're willing to put spending cups like that in there, 407 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: they can get me. I'm for keeping the tax cuts, 408 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: for making them permanent. I think if they expired, I 409 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 3: think we'd have a huge recession as you squeeze all 410 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: that money out of the economy. But if you want 411 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: more money for a wall, or more money for agents 412 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: to get people. You're going to have to cut somewhere else, 413 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: because my fear is is that we are at a 414 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: breaking point right now, two trillion dollars annually being apt 415 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: at it. Sometimes we're adding a trillion in three months, 416 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: so it is literally out of control and it will 417 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: destroy our country. We will destroy the currency and you 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: won't have to wear that border because it'll be chaos 419 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: everywhere when the currency goes. Yeah. 420 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned your your festivus uh the other day on Fox. 421 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: But because you know, we're talking about cutting spending, so 422 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure coming up with that list sometimes are like 423 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: I can't even believe that, you know, we're wasting money 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: on this nonsense. 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: I wanted to get you pretty important, you know, so 426 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: it was really important, like girl girl centric climate change 427 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: in Brazil. I mean, don't you want the little girls 428 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: in Brazil to hear about climate change? 429 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: Well, I think there was a drag queen. Yeah, there 430 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: was like drag qu and ice skating or ice skating. 431 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the beard of the bearded ladies. You know, it's 432 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: it's just insane the stuff we spend money on. 433 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: It's I you know, I love that list because it's 434 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: important because it forces a conversation that needs to be 435 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: had and kind of forces us to realize the ridiculousness 436 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: of how we spend money. I want to get you 437 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: real quick before we go. Your dad has been right 438 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: about a lot of things, as I'm sure you know, 439 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: but he had mentioned back in the nineteen eighties that 440 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: it almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy 441 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: on Americans who disagree with policy. You know, we've certainly 442 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: seen that over the years, directed at Donald Trump. And 443 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, I guess, how do we change the FBI? 444 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: You know what is possible over these next four years 445 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: and trying to get some reforms done. 446 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: The first thing you got to do is get good people. 447 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: Telsea Gabbart I think would be great, Cash Ptel will 448 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: be great, and you got to get them over the 449 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 3: finish line. So, if any of your listeners want to 450 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: reform the deep state and want to eliminate politicization, want 451 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: to avoid and get rid of redirecting our sources that 452 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: should be towards spies oversea against American citizens, we got 453 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: to get them in. Telsea would be a change agent. 454 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Kelsey Gabbert would be good, and we got to get 455 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: her over. It's very close. There'll be no Democrats, and 456 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: it's going to be whether we can corral fifty Republicans. 457 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: Same way frankly with Bobby Kennedy, same way with Cash Mattel. 458 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: They're all very very close. But if we don't, they 459 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: have so misused the FBI that the FBI became a 460 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: political arm of the Democrat Party, Department of Justice, same thing. 461 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: And so I've been glad that. You know, I saw 462 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: the other day that the President pardoned two women who 463 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: had been and I know this is going to sound 464 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: terrible because this is really violent. One woman was eighty 465 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: nine and in her wheelchair. She was accused of obstructing 466 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: an abortion clinic. They wanted to put her in jail 467 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: for eleven years. The seventy five year old woman who 468 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: has long difficulty and can't walk that far, she was 469 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: actually in I think she was actually put in jail. 470 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: The first one didn't make it to jail, but the 471 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: second one was in jail for two years for obstructing 472 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: abortion clinic. When the Department of Justice and FBI doing 473 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: that kind of craft, we've gone too far. They've become politicized. 474 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, thank god you know change is here, and 475 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: you know I look forward to saying what happens over 476 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: the next four years. Senator Rampaul, you've been generous with 477 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: your time. I always appreciate you joining the show. Thanks 478 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Thank you so with Senator 479 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Ram Paul of Kentucky. Appreciate him for taking the time 480 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: to come on the show. Appreciate you guys at home 481 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen 482 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: throughout the week. I want to take my producer, John Cassio, 483 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: for putting the show together. Until next time.