1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:31,068 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Yet Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented 3 00:00:31,068 --> 00:00:34,028 Speaker 1: by Nerdball at Jason's Dancing. We are live in New 4 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:36,428 Speaker 1: York City. It is Tuesday, August ninth. My name is 5 00:00:36,468 --> 00:00:39,268 Speaker 1: Jamie Gardall. He is a super Bowl champion. Jason mccordy. 6 00:00:39,348 --> 00:00:41,468 Speaker 1: That is Kyle Brand. That is Peter Schriegger. I just 7 00:00:41,548 --> 00:00:43,748 Speaker 1: realized why we say Peter and Kyle's name before that, 8 00:00:43,788 --> 00:00:45,948 Speaker 1: because it sounds weird calling you super Bowl champion and 9 00:00:45,988 --> 00:00:48,788 Speaker 1: then there's just Peter and Kyle. I remember last week 10 00:00:48,828 --> 00:00:53,148 Speaker 1: it was super Bowl Champion, Jason mccordy, NFL Insider, Yeah, 11 00:00:53,228 --> 00:00:56,188 Speaker 1: gay follow and Kyle Brand. No title, no nothing. That's fine. 12 00:00:56,228 --> 00:00:58,428 Speaker 1: I kind of like it that way. So they put 13 00:00:58,428 --> 00:01:00,108 Speaker 1: it in there for a reason, because that did just 14 00:01:00,108 --> 00:01:02,588 Speaker 1: felt terrible. I feel like you just totally took a down, 15 00:01:02,868 --> 00:01:06,148 Speaker 1: wasn't It's like seveno oh fifty three, and you're already 16 00:01:06,188 --> 00:01:09,428 Speaker 1: like I'm better than well, you said it not May. 17 00:01:09,948 --> 00:01:14,668 Speaker 1: I never went on sixteen, never did neither. That was 18 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:21,868 Speaker 1: blocked out. I forgot the morning Brown Fans. NFL network 19 00:01:22,028 --> 00:01:25,108 Speaker 1: is that trading coast all around the Country fluting Oxdard, California, 20 00:01:25,148 --> 00:01:27,148 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys aren't putting in work ahead of their 21 00:01:27,188 --> 00:01:30,148 Speaker 1: game on Saturday night against the Broncos. Live here on 22 00:01:30,308 --> 00:01:32,668 Speaker 1: NFL Network, you can catch it. Um Jerry Jones was 23 00:01:32,708 --> 00:01:34,468 Speaker 1: kind enough to swing by the set and talk to 24 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:37,788 Speaker 1: Rhet Lewis, Brian Baldier, NFL Network inside er Tom Pellisero 25 00:01:38,028 --> 00:01:43,068 Speaker 1: about that early exit for Dallas and the playoffs last skison. Well, 26 00:01:43,108 --> 00:01:45,788 Speaker 1: we were healthy going in that playoff. That's what makes 27 00:01:45,828 --> 00:01:48,988 Speaker 1: that so bitter in our mouth is to have it 28 00:01:49,068 --> 00:01:52,148 Speaker 1: all right there, ready to go, and then not get 29 00:01:52,148 --> 00:01:53,868 Speaker 1: it done at the end. So what are we going 30 00:01:53,908 --> 00:01:56,708 Speaker 1: to do differently here? We're going to be more physical 31 00:01:57,028 --> 00:02:00,668 Speaker 1: all year long than we were all year long last 32 00:02:00,748 --> 00:02:03,388 Speaker 1: year because we had early parts of the year to 33 00:02:03,428 --> 00:02:05,548 Speaker 1: where it was clicking so good for us in our 34 00:02:05,628 --> 00:02:10,228 Speaker 1: passing game and just really really had the numbers going 35 00:02:10,388 --> 00:02:13,428 Speaker 1: for you. But they won't let you do that. And 36 00:02:13,508 --> 00:02:15,508 Speaker 1: when you get to the playoff, right, they just won't 37 00:02:15,588 --> 00:02:17,628 Speaker 1: let you go with that front San Francisco brought to you. 38 00:02:17,668 --> 00:02:21,628 Speaker 1: And so having said that, we're gonna try and be 39 00:02:21,908 --> 00:02:25,268 Speaker 1: ready for that by playing like that more in the 40 00:02:25,348 --> 00:02:31,548 Speaker 1: regular season. So rightfully, so mister Jones wants to be 41 00:02:31,588 --> 00:02:34,308 Speaker 1: prepared for the postseason, especially if you look at the 42 00:02:34,388 --> 00:02:37,868 Speaker 1: numbers over the last twenty five years or so. My goodness. 43 00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:40,868 Speaker 1: So not what you expect when you talk about the 44 00:02:40,948 --> 00:02:43,068 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Also, we were trying to figure out the 45 00:02:43,068 --> 00:02:45,628 Speaker 1: parallel to that conversation. It's like if Nie Burlison just 46 00:02:45,628 --> 00:02:47,708 Speaker 1: like walked in it, like, oh my God, give him 47 00:02:47,708 --> 00:02:51,028 Speaker 1: a microphone, you know, just stand over us and talk 48 00:02:51,428 --> 00:02:54,068 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I have a mike. 49 00:02:54,068 --> 00:02:56,548 Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. Yeah, he brought his own right right. 50 00:02:56,908 --> 00:03:00,468 Speaker 1: So speaking of the Cowboys, Um, what has to be different? 51 00:03:00,868 --> 00:03:03,148 Speaker 1: How can this season be different for the Cowboys? Yeah? 52 00:03:03,188 --> 00:03:05,668 Speaker 1: For me, I mean Jerry said, he said, be more physical, 53 00:03:05,788 --> 00:03:07,828 Speaker 1: Like for them. You gotta run the ball. That's how 54 00:03:07,828 --> 00:03:11,628 Speaker 1: you show physicality running the ball, stopping the run in 55 00:03:11,708 --> 00:03:13,748 Speaker 1: the kicking game. And if we look at right here, 56 00:03:13,788 --> 00:03:16,308 Speaker 1: we'll put up a full screen of Dallas's six losses 57 00:03:16,388 --> 00:03:19,628 Speaker 1: last year, including the playoffs where they fell off. Was 58 00:03:19,788 --> 00:03:23,068 Speaker 1: running the ball. Look at the attempts per game thirty 59 00:03:23,108 --> 00:03:26,348 Speaker 1: two down to eighteen in the games that they lost. 60 00:03:26,788 --> 00:03:30,828 Speaker 1: That is startling. Fourteen touchdowns compared to two and the 61 00:03:30,868 --> 00:03:34,028 Speaker 1: twelve wins compared to the six losses, and the playoff game, 62 00:03:34,548 --> 00:03:38,228 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott Tony Pollard combined for three catches for twelve 63 00:03:38,308 --> 00:03:42,148 Speaker 1: yards or sixteen rushes for forty five yards. We said, 64 00:03:42,868 --> 00:03:44,828 Speaker 1: we're talking about marriage, We're talking about how to make 65 00:03:44,828 --> 00:03:46,748 Speaker 1: it right. It's like the husband say I'm gonna cut 66 00:03:46,748 --> 00:03:49,708 Speaker 1: the grass, honey. On Saturday. Saturday comes, the guys want 67 00:03:49,708 --> 00:03:52,308 Speaker 1: to go wash sports, grab a beer. Then Sunday comes, 68 00:03:52,428 --> 00:03:54,508 Speaker 1: hits church. Then he wants to play eighteen holes of 69 00:03:54,548 --> 00:03:57,508 Speaker 1: goall the weekends over and the grass still isn't cut. 70 00:03:57,548 --> 00:04:01,188 Speaker 1: Come on, when you say yesterday, actions speak louder than words. 71 00:04:01,548 --> 00:04:04,868 Speaker 1: Run the ball established the run game be physical, which 72 00:04:04,868 --> 00:04:08,788 Speaker 1: we need to wind of us. Yeah, and here's here's 73 00:04:08,868 --> 00:04:12,468 Speaker 1: here's the secret. If you want, here's the secret around. 74 00:04:13,108 --> 00:04:15,428 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any secret. Then Mike McCarthy like 75 00:04:15,468 --> 00:04:17,828 Speaker 1: needs to win now like that, he needs to win. 76 00:04:17,948 --> 00:04:19,748 Speaker 1: And this is not a team that's looking for the longer. 77 00:04:19,868 --> 00:04:23,388 Speaker 1: Like in that building, every year it matters, but more 78 00:04:23,468 --> 00:04:25,548 Speaker 1: this year than ever. I feel like there's a pressure 79 00:04:25,668 --> 00:04:27,788 Speaker 1: to get the job done. And I look at the 80 00:04:27,828 --> 00:04:30,068 Speaker 1: highest paid player on their roster and at some point 81 00:04:32,068 --> 00:04:34,188 Speaker 1: is Dak one of the greats. Is Dak one of 82 00:04:34,188 --> 00:04:38,228 Speaker 1: those guys, Because we've seen Mahomes Carrey teams, We've seen 83 00:04:38,348 --> 00:04:42,428 Speaker 1: Josh Allen Carrey teams. Dak has done it in spots. 84 00:04:42,508 --> 00:04:44,468 Speaker 1: But in the biggest game of the year last year, 85 00:04:44,468 --> 00:04:48,228 Speaker 1: they fell behind and Dak had this ferocious comeback and 86 00:04:48,348 --> 00:04:50,268 Speaker 1: of course the final play and what have you. But 87 00:04:50,308 --> 00:04:51,868 Speaker 1: like that was not a team, not a game where 88 00:04:51,948 --> 00:04:55,268 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's putting in his Hall of Fame induction ceremony. 89 00:04:55,348 --> 00:04:58,068 Speaker 1: So I need a Dak Prescott to be even better 90 00:04:58,148 --> 00:04:59,948 Speaker 1: than he was last year and overcomes some of those 91 00:05:00,028 --> 00:05:02,948 Speaker 1: inefficiencies that they have. They lose a Marii Cooper, they 92 00:05:02,988 --> 00:05:05,748 Speaker 1: lose you know, Randy greg on defense, They're gonna be 93 00:05:05,788 --> 00:05:08,268 Speaker 1: losing while Collins this year. There's a lot of things 94 00:05:08,268 --> 00:05:11,068 Speaker 1: that are not as good as last year's team on paper. 95 00:05:11,548 --> 00:05:13,708 Speaker 1: Dak has to be even better. He's got to overcompensate, 96 00:05:13,748 --> 00:05:15,908 Speaker 1: and he's got to be the guy they pay him 97 00:05:15,908 --> 00:05:18,308 Speaker 1: like he's one of the guys. He's had moments where 98 00:05:18,348 --> 00:05:21,108 Speaker 1: he's one of the guys. But with the pressure going 99 00:05:21,148 --> 00:05:24,228 Speaker 1: on into this season, with Mike McCarthy's job with the 100 00:05:24,388 --> 00:05:28,628 Speaker 1: entire Cowboy nation wondering, and with Jerry obviously hovering from above. 101 00:05:28,708 --> 00:05:32,468 Speaker 1: As we saw on that interview, Dak Prescott, we know 102 00:05:32,508 --> 00:05:34,548 Speaker 1: you got And like I've always said this with Dak, 103 00:05:35,148 --> 00:05:36,828 Speaker 1: people are like, hey, you know, Dak, is he any 104 00:05:36,868 --> 00:05:38,788 Speaker 1: better than Kirk Cousins, any better than Alex Smith? You 105 00:05:38,788 --> 00:05:41,068 Speaker 1: ask gran a league like coaches look at Dak that 106 00:05:41,108 --> 00:05:43,268 Speaker 1: way you do. They're like, when Dak Prescott walks in 107 00:05:43,308 --> 00:05:45,748 Speaker 1: a room, everyone listens that Dak Prescott has the arm 108 00:05:45,908 --> 00:05:48,548 Speaker 1: and he's in great shape. All right, stack it together 109 00:05:48,668 --> 00:05:50,748 Speaker 1: and do it in the playoffs, and let's get it done. 110 00:05:50,748 --> 00:05:52,788 Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott be one of those elite guys where 111 00:05:52,988 --> 00:05:56,108 Speaker 1: we are talking about you with Lamar and with Mahomes 112 00:05:56,148 --> 00:05:57,948 Speaker 1: and with Josh Allen, so that you're not in the 113 00:05:57,988 --> 00:06:00,108 Speaker 1: second tier or even third tier, that sometimes you're drifted 114 00:06:00,428 --> 00:06:02,748 Speaker 1: number one offense in the NFL. Last year, in a 115 00:06:02,788 --> 00:06:05,308 Speaker 1: home playoff game, this scorre seventeen and on the last 116 00:06:05,308 --> 00:06:07,548 Speaker 1: play the game, Dak walks into a sliding glass door. 117 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:11,268 Speaker 1: That's why we're here. And this is perfect of my 118 00:06:11,428 --> 00:06:14,188 Speaker 1: exasperation with the Dallas Cowboys and their covers on this 119 00:06:14,188 --> 00:06:17,348 Speaker 1: show and others We start the show with just a 120 00:06:17,588 --> 00:06:21,348 Speaker 1: mad libs generic quote from Jerry Jones that there's nothing 121 00:06:21,388 --> 00:06:23,548 Speaker 1: about that quote that identifies it as this team. It 122 00:06:23,588 --> 00:06:26,028 Speaker 1: could be any team for the last fifteen twenty years 123 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:28,348 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy, and so could this Cowboys team. You 124 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:31,428 Speaker 1: have a very famous quarterback who's very good, but like 125 00:06:31,508 --> 00:06:33,788 Speaker 1: not one of the great ones. You have a famous 126 00:06:33,828 --> 00:06:35,948 Speaker 1: wide receiver with a really cool name. You got a 127 00:06:35,948 --> 00:06:38,308 Speaker 1: couple of defensive stars, the head coach that gets pecked at, 128 00:06:38,668 --> 00:06:41,268 Speaker 1: and the owner who's just talking and talking and talking. 129 00:06:41,628 --> 00:06:44,108 Speaker 1: And this is why it bothers me, because thirty two 130 00:06:44,148 --> 00:06:46,548 Speaker 1: teams in camp and we're like, can the Cowboys? I 131 00:06:46,588 --> 00:06:49,588 Speaker 1: guess will they? Because what always, what always grinds my 132 00:06:49,588 --> 00:06:53,588 Speaker 1: gears is is this this BS sentiment that is attached 133 00:06:53,588 --> 00:06:56,348 Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys about we're all about super Bowls. 134 00:06:56,388 --> 00:06:58,868 Speaker 1: No not. The last time they were in a super Bowl, 135 00:06:59,148 --> 00:07:01,468 Speaker 1: Diana Ross was the halftime show. The last time the 136 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:03,788 Speaker 1: Cowboys were in a super Bowl. On the radio call 137 00:07:04,148 --> 00:07:07,388 Speaker 1: was Jack Buck and Hank Stram. That's the last time 138 00:07:07,588 --> 00:07:09,908 Speaker 1: they played the Steelers in that super Bowl. Since then, 139 00:07:09,948 --> 00:07:12,428 Speaker 1: the Steelers, who are about super Bowls, have been back 140 00:07:12,748 --> 00:07:16,668 Speaker 1: three times. In that time, the Cowboys the Super Bowl. 141 00:07:16,668 --> 00:07:21,748 Speaker 1: Cowboys have won three total playoff games, meaning the Cowboys 142 00:07:21,908 --> 00:07:24,348 Speaker 1: are one of just six teams in the whole league 143 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:25,548 Speaker 1: in that time to not even make it to a 144 00:07:25,548 --> 00:07:27,828 Speaker 1: conference title game. The Jaguars have been to one, the 145 00:07:27,828 --> 00:07:29,748 Speaker 1: Bears have been to one, the Panthers have been to one. 146 00:07:30,268 --> 00:07:33,228 Speaker 1: It's just will it be different? It's Groundhog team to 147 00:07:33,268 --> 00:07:35,428 Speaker 1: me every single time compared him to vodka soda in 148 00:07:35,428 --> 00:07:38,988 Speaker 1: the past. I don't remembering that, Like it's always there. 149 00:07:39,028 --> 00:07:41,508 Speaker 1: It's in toxic cave, like at the end of the 150 00:07:41,588 --> 00:07:44,068 Speaker 1: day anyway, like vodka soda was what you've called really 151 00:07:44,068 --> 00:07:45,868 Speaker 1: gets me going. And it's like you put a line 152 00:07:45,948 --> 00:07:48,948 Speaker 1: in it. It's crazy. And it's just two other teams 153 00:07:48,948 --> 00:07:52,228 Speaker 1: on their own division have been the multiple Super Bowls. 154 00:07:52,308 --> 00:07:53,868 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles and Giants have been to five. 155 00:07:54,348 --> 00:07:57,228 Speaker 1: So we're sitting here twenty twenty two, it's seven h 156 00:07:57,268 --> 00:07:59,508 Speaker 1: seven am and whatever day it is today, Tuesday, and 157 00:07:59,508 --> 00:08:01,908 Speaker 1: it's like Jerry says, we gotta do better this year. 158 00:08:02,108 --> 00:08:04,388 Speaker 1: It can be any evidence that they will. They're gonna 159 00:08:04,468 --> 00:08:06,148 Speaker 1: win the whole thing. They're gonna get to it. Just 160 00:08:06,668 --> 00:08:09,548 Speaker 1: it's nothing personal it's just I serve the audience here, 161 00:08:09,588 --> 00:08:12,068 Speaker 1: and I still think there's this adoration of the Cowboys 162 00:08:12,188 --> 00:08:15,268 Speaker 1: as this beautiful American storyline that goes back to Emmett Smith, 163 00:08:15,308 --> 00:08:17,588 Speaker 1: who is now fifty three years old, and like my parents, 164 00:08:17,868 --> 00:08:19,428 Speaker 1: and look, there's thirty one of their teams and I 165 00:08:19,428 --> 00:08:22,108 Speaker 1: think they probably got a better shot. So good luck Cowboys. 166 00:08:22,108 --> 00:08:23,708 Speaker 1: But like I just go by the facts. I think 167 00:08:23,748 --> 00:08:26,188 Speaker 1: their owner likes that we're talking about him right now. Facts, 168 00:08:26,228 --> 00:08:32,668 Speaker 1: we should stop. It's this I can't, I really shouldn't. Really, 169 00:08:32,668 --> 00:08:35,708 Speaker 1: it's the solution for any team. And it's something I've 170 00:08:35,748 --> 00:08:37,668 Speaker 1: learned over the years with the various analysts that I've 171 00:08:37,668 --> 00:08:40,428 Speaker 1: worked with, which is balance wins games. And you can 172 00:08:40,428 --> 00:08:42,188 Speaker 1: talk about the run game. You can talk about Dak 173 00:08:42,228 --> 00:08:45,028 Speaker 1: being great, but how does Dak? How is Dak great 174 00:08:45,188 --> 00:08:47,308 Speaker 1: with Ceedee Lamb? So you have to have a balanced 175 00:08:47,388 --> 00:08:50,148 Speaker 1: run game, balance game through the air. But last year 176 00:08:50,188 --> 00:08:52,508 Speaker 1: is Super Bowl winning team through the ball sixty percent 177 00:08:52,508 --> 00:08:55,228 Speaker 1: of the time, the Rams were sixty percent in the 178 00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:58,228 Speaker 1: air offensive team. So Ceedee Lamb needs to step up 179 00:08:58,268 --> 00:08:59,908 Speaker 1: and be the guy. We know what Dad can be, 180 00:09:00,268 --> 00:09:02,748 Speaker 1: we know what Z can be, but can cde Lamb 181 00:09:03,028 --> 00:09:06,108 Speaker 1: step up and be a top five guy these categories. 182 00:09:06,388 --> 00:09:09,988 Speaker 1: He's out of the top fifteen in these categories that 183 00:09:10,068 --> 00:09:13,108 Speaker 1: he needs to lead. You know, he has had the pedigree, 184 00:09:13,228 --> 00:09:16,028 Speaker 1: he has the name, as Kyle said, and now he 185 00:09:16,068 --> 00:09:18,428 Speaker 1: plays for the Dallas Cowboys, and he could make a 186 00:09:18,508 --> 00:09:21,108 Speaker 1: name for himself on Thanksgiving. He can make the name 187 00:09:21,108 --> 00:09:24,268 Speaker 1: for himself in January. But balance is key to win 188 00:09:24,388 --> 00:09:27,188 Speaker 1: games down the stretch. And we know the other guys 189 00:09:27,228 --> 00:09:29,148 Speaker 1: have it, but does Ceedee Lamb have it? That's the 190 00:09:29,228 --> 00:09:31,068 Speaker 1: only way it can be different. But it's a good point, 191 00:09:31,148 --> 00:09:32,948 Speaker 1: Kyle Man. I didn't even think about it that way. 192 00:09:33,588 --> 00:09:39,148 Speaker 1: We could, people don't. We could say this equation about 193 00:09:39,228 --> 00:09:43,548 Speaker 1: any team that has been adequate over the last twenty years. 194 00:09:43,828 --> 00:09:47,668 Speaker 1: The Minnesota's Vicings, they're always the one that come to mind. 195 00:09:47,708 --> 00:09:49,908 Speaker 1: But like, but it's just why is it the same? 196 00:09:49,988 --> 00:09:52,028 Speaker 1: Why does it lead the show? So it's that guy 197 00:09:52,068 --> 00:09:54,588 Speaker 1: who was hovering over. Yeah, the cult of Jerry, the 198 00:09:54,588 --> 00:09:57,028 Speaker 1: cult of personality. It's real, Like it's intoxicating. What's he 199 00:09:57,028 --> 00:09:59,628 Speaker 1: gonna say next? Is he gonna call Jimmy Johnson out? 200 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:01,108 Speaker 1: Is he going to say that he's been sniveling? Is 201 00:10:01,148 --> 00:10:03,588 Speaker 1: he gonna make some strange analogy that we're all giggling at. 202 00:10:04,508 --> 00:10:06,708 Speaker 1: Still the one of the most powerful voices in our game, 203 00:10:07,108 --> 00:10:10,108 Speaker 1: and he wants to win so badly, and yet it's 204 00:10:10,188 --> 00:10:11,868 Speaker 1: I think he's compelling, but I don't think his team 205 00:10:11,948 --> 00:10:14,908 Speaker 1: is really you know, like CD des Bryant was the 206 00:10:14,908 --> 00:10:17,148 Speaker 1: same guy, same number, same deal, Like it just didn't 207 00:10:17,188 --> 00:10:19,788 Speaker 1: get it done. Zekey Elliott maybe has the worst contract 208 00:10:19,788 --> 00:10:21,788 Speaker 1: in all the football and he has that contract because 209 00:10:21,868 --> 00:10:23,868 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, the guy that we love, said I gotta 210 00:10:23,868 --> 00:10:25,468 Speaker 1: have Zeke here, and I gotta sell Jersey and gonna 211 00:10:25,548 --> 00:10:27,668 Speaker 1: jump in the kettle. It's he makes thirty million bucks 212 00:10:27,668 --> 00:10:29,788 Speaker 1: this year and he's like the twenty fourth best running 213 00:10:29,828 --> 00:10:31,828 Speaker 1: back in the league, maybe including the second best on 214 00:10:31,908 --> 00:10:34,588 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So it's great. I love Jerry too. I 215 00:10:34,628 --> 00:10:37,388 Speaker 1: love you, mister Jones. The team doesn't win. We we've 216 00:10:37,428 --> 00:10:40,148 Speaker 1: talked about the NFC, and we've said the Packers, the Bucks, 217 00:10:40,188 --> 00:10:42,748 Speaker 1: the Rams, and Big Gap. We have not said the 218 00:10:42,748 --> 00:10:46,148 Speaker 1: Cowboys in that con Well, yesterday, even I remember saying, 219 00:10:46,148 --> 00:10:48,428 Speaker 1: we were talking about the Giants, like you're the Giants. 220 00:10:48,508 --> 00:10:51,308 Speaker 1: Get a quarterback that of the Giants, And now we're 221 00:10:51,308 --> 00:10:54,228 Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys. You're the Cowboys. Get people that 222 00:10:54,348 --> 00:10:56,668 Speaker 1: they are deserving of the Cowboys. Yet, how is this 223 00:10:56,708 --> 00:10:59,868 Speaker 1: all in the same division and the same It's wild. Yeah, 224 00:10:59,948 --> 00:11:02,868 Speaker 1: and look, cowboys win, they win a lot. They went 225 00:11:02,988 --> 00:11:06,388 Speaker 1: during the regular season, just twelve games is an amazing season. 226 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,708 Speaker 1: But just it usually ends up the wrong way, and 227 00:11:09,788 --> 00:11:12,268 Speaker 1: not usually it always ends up the wrong way. And 228 00:11:12,348 --> 00:11:14,428 Speaker 1: it's it's Groundhog team. I'd love it if it was different. 229 00:11:14,428 --> 00:11:17,108 Speaker 1: I love to have a different conversation. But look here 230 00:11:17,108 --> 00:11:29,708 Speaker 1: we are. All right, it's Tuesday. We do a game 231 00:11:29,748 --> 00:11:32,868 Speaker 1: called we in or we Out and it's as followed. 232 00:11:33,108 --> 00:11:36,188 Speaker 1: I say, it's statement. My co host tell me if 233 00:11:36,188 --> 00:11:38,468 Speaker 1: they're in or they're out. The Giants finished in last 234 00:11:38,508 --> 00:11:41,188 Speaker 1: place last year with a four and thirteen record. In 235 00:11:41,188 --> 00:11:45,188 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, on Monday, they had a spirited, all 236 00:11:45,188 --> 00:11:50,108 Speaker 1: out brawl bench clearing offense versus defense at practice, kind 237 00:11:50,108 --> 00:11:53,428 Speaker 1: of like the fire an old fashioned offense versus defense 238 00:11:53,468 --> 00:11:57,108 Speaker 1: training camp brew haha, like the old days. The statement 239 00:11:57,188 --> 00:11:58,788 Speaker 1: is one of those can be a good thing for 240 00:11:58,828 --> 00:12:01,228 Speaker 1: a long struggling team that fans are looking for a 241 00:12:01,228 --> 00:12:03,108 Speaker 1: little fire out. If we in or we out. Jason, 242 00:12:03,388 --> 00:12:04,948 Speaker 1: our ex player who I'm sure it's been in the 243 00:12:04,988 --> 00:12:08,508 Speaker 1: field of these good thing or bad thing. I'm out 244 00:12:08,588 --> 00:12:11,588 Speaker 1: on it, like, this isn't hope. All we had a brawl, 245 00:12:11,828 --> 00:12:14,788 Speaker 1: Now we're going to start winning games. I'm okay with 246 00:12:14,868 --> 00:12:18,948 Speaker 1: training camp fights and everything, but it doesn't equate to wins. 247 00:12:19,268 --> 00:12:21,308 Speaker 1: My first two years in the league, Jeff Fisher was 248 00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:24,828 Speaker 1: our coach, we had many, many, many training camp fights, 249 00:12:24,948 --> 00:12:27,268 Speaker 1: which led to a lot of fifteen yard personal foul 250 00:12:27,308 --> 00:12:30,228 Speaker 1: penalties during the season. We didn't make the playoffs. We 251 00:12:30,268 --> 00:12:32,988 Speaker 1: won fourteen games in those two seasons, so the training 252 00:12:32,988 --> 00:12:35,628 Speaker 1: camp fights did not help us in the win column. 253 00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:37,668 Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to see the competitive juice. It 254 00:12:37,948 --> 00:12:40,068 Speaker 1: night like you hear that and you're like, you get excited, like, okay, 255 00:12:40,108 --> 00:12:43,708 Speaker 1: that's a player. Especially fans are They're like, at this 256 00:12:43,748 --> 00:12:45,668 Speaker 1: point in training camp, you're just pete, I'm tired of 257 00:12:45,708 --> 00:12:47,588 Speaker 1: going against you. We've been going against each other. Yeah, 258 00:12:47,708 --> 00:12:50,108 Speaker 1: hit somebody else. So that's why the preseason games started 259 00:12:50,108 --> 00:12:52,308 Speaker 1: to roll around. So yeah, at this point training camp, Oh, 260 00:12:52,308 --> 00:12:54,908 Speaker 1: it's nice, but I wouldn't have hope like, oh yeah, 261 00:12:55,068 --> 00:12:57,228 Speaker 1: we're struggling, We're gonna be better this year. We're fighting 262 00:12:57,228 --> 00:12:59,388 Speaker 1: in practice like, no, let's not giving me all up. Yeah, 263 00:12:59,388 --> 00:13:00,868 Speaker 1: I want to put my fan hat on and say 264 00:13:00,908 --> 00:13:03,188 Speaker 1: I love it. Just give me all the pushing into shoving. 265 00:13:03,628 --> 00:13:05,748 Speaker 1: And that's exactly it is. Like they're sick of hitting 266 00:13:05,748 --> 00:13:07,948 Speaker 1: each other, which is what I want out of if 267 00:13:07,948 --> 00:13:09,628 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of any team, and if I am 268 00:13:09,668 --> 00:13:11,508 Speaker 1: a fan of the Giants, and like, those guys are 269 00:13:11,588 --> 00:13:13,948 Speaker 1: tired of shoving each other, tackling each other, or maybe 270 00:13:13,988 --> 00:13:15,868 Speaker 1: easing up on guys that they don't really want to 271 00:13:15,908 --> 00:13:17,548 Speaker 1: ease up on because they're kind of driving each other 272 00:13:17,548 --> 00:13:20,468 Speaker 1: crazy at training camp. Like, yeah, it's August, you're in 273 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:23,468 Speaker 1: New York. It is hottest eighties here right now. They're 274 00:13:23,548 --> 00:13:26,548 Speaker 1: they're pissed, they're shoving each other. I'm in just just 275 00:13:26,788 --> 00:13:28,748 Speaker 1: more training camp roles. But don't get punched in the 276 00:13:28,788 --> 00:13:32,068 Speaker 1: face for no Apparently you have in details where the 277 00:13:32,108 --> 00:13:34,748 Speaker 1: principles involved or anything. What's going to Bobby Johnson or 278 00:13:34,828 --> 00:13:39,668 Speaker 1: offensive line coach, coach? If it's for personal reasons, that 279 00:13:39,828 --> 00:13:42,748 Speaker 1: is different. Yeah, we're just shoving to shove me. For me, 280 00:13:42,748 --> 00:13:47,028 Speaker 1: it's a question of timing. Like John Feliciano Dragon nice. 281 00:13:47,188 --> 00:13:50,668 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, thirty three 282 00:13:50,748 --> 00:13:52,628 Speaker 1: days from their first game. It's a little too far 283 00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:56,548 Speaker 1: out from me from observational standpoint and a very modest 284 00:13:56,548 --> 00:13:59,028 Speaker 1: personal standpoint. The ones that I like are when it's 285 00:13:59,068 --> 00:14:01,548 Speaker 1: like rivalry week or you got a big game coming 286 00:14:01,628 --> 00:14:03,708 Speaker 1: up and you set the tone that week, like on 287 00:14:03,748 --> 00:14:07,028 Speaker 1: Wednesday the NFL or Monday in college and first drill, 288 00:14:07,148 --> 00:14:08,548 Speaker 1: first thing, you go at and bick. This is a 289 00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:10,068 Speaker 1: different kind of week we're gonna like we have the 290 00:14:10,108 --> 00:14:13,148 Speaker 1: Steelers this week, or the Ravens this is a month 291 00:14:13,188 --> 00:14:16,228 Speaker 1: out from their opener against the Titans. Like that doesn't 292 00:14:16,268 --> 00:14:18,308 Speaker 1: work in live formula. So don't love it now. I 293 00:14:18,348 --> 00:14:20,628 Speaker 1: mean I like watching it because yeah, I don't know 294 00:14:20,668 --> 00:14:22,788 Speaker 1: if I love it for the team necessarily. Yeah, fans 295 00:14:22,788 --> 00:14:24,348 Speaker 1: were in a fervor. Jason, I'll turn it back to 296 00:14:24,348 --> 00:14:28,108 Speaker 1: you on this um. Is there stuff that happens after? Like, okay, 297 00:14:28,108 --> 00:14:29,948 Speaker 1: so they do that. You had all the fans at practice, 298 00:14:29,988 --> 00:14:32,908 Speaker 1: everyone's tweeting, got Jordan Ranan tweeting like live play by 299 00:14:32,908 --> 00:14:34,628 Speaker 1: play update. It's like it's a trailler fight or something 300 00:14:34,668 --> 00:14:36,868 Speaker 1: like you've got it all going on, and then you 301 00:14:36,908 --> 00:14:38,548 Speaker 1: get back in the locker room, like is everyone just 302 00:14:38,548 --> 00:14:40,068 Speaker 1: like hey, that was a good theater, is it or 303 00:14:40,108 --> 00:14:42,988 Speaker 1: is our actually tension? But if it, if it was 304 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:45,388 Speaker 1: all like nothing was personally it was just a matter 305 00:14:45,428 --> 00:14:48,028 Speaker 1: of like the moment got big, then you come in 306 00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:50,428 Speaker 1: you laugh like you're literally gonna be laughing about it. Yo, 307 00:14:50,508 --> 00:14:53,708 Speaker 1: did you see him drag Feliciano? Bobby Johnson got in 308 00:14:53,748 --> 00:14:55,348 Speaker 1: the fight, he pushed me, I was about to beat Like. 309 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,828 Speaker 1: Those are the type of conversations are gone. It doesn't 310 00:14:57,908 --> 00:15:01,108 Speaker 1: drag out unless there's like something personal going all. Then 311 00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:02,988 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we gotta have a kind of 312 00:15:03,108 --> 00:15:06,148 Speaker 1: a little meeting, like bring to bring the responsible parties in, 313 00:15:06,508 --> 00:15:09,028 Speaker 1: have somebody mediate. But if not, like you get in 314 00:15:09,068 --> 00:15:10,668 Speaker 1: the locker room, you're laughing about it. Have you ever 315 00:15:10,708 --> 00:15:13,268 Speaker 1: had to mediate something like that? No, but I've heard 316 00:15:13,308 --> 00:15:16,988 Speaker 1: rumors about it around the league. To be that guy. 317 00:15:17,268 --> 00:15:19,748 Speaker 1: I like that Wink Martindale's the defensive coordinator of the Giants. 318 00:15:19,748 --> 00:15:21,148 Speaker 1: I think he probably had something to do with that. 319 00:15:21,428 --> 00:15:23,428 Speaker 1: A little bit of needling. Let's go, let's put it 320 00:15:23,468 --> 00:15:26,108 Speaker 1: that way. Maybe it'll be different, Yeah, middle fire, it'd 321 00:15:26,148 --> 00:15:29,788 Speaker 1: be nice. Yesterday, James Palmer and Steve Mariucci joined our show. 322 00:15:29,788 --> 00:15:32,948 Speaker 1: They're reporting live from Chiefs training camp. But before they 323 00:15:32,988 --> 00:15:35,908 Speaker 1: told us about the Chiefs offense and what Nick Bolton's 324 00:15:35,908 --> 00:15:38,908 Speaker 1: going to do on defense, they were very very very 325 00:15:39,228 --> 00:15:41,388 Speaker 1: very happy to tell us that they had been eating 326 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:44,788 Speaker 1: a lot in Kansas City so far. Take a listen 327 00:15:45,068 --> 00:15:49,268 Speaker 1: to this dialogue. We had barbecue, we had pizza, we 328 00:15:49,308 --> 00:15:54,468 Speaker 1: had eleven lemonades. Apparently, yes, dinner last night. We're off 329 00:15:54,508 --> 00:15:58,508 Speaker 1: the rails already. Yeah. I've also heard that they were 330 00:15:58,548 --> 00:16:01,108 Speaker 1: rolling around in a red convertible. No joke, that came 331 00:16:01,108 --> 00:16:03,388 Speaker 1: from one of my chiefs. The two of them were 332 00:16:03,468 --> 00:16:06,468 Speaker 1: rolling into camp and red convertible, paulbur and Mary. That 333 00:16:06,588 --> 00:16:14,268 Speaker 1: sounds like an incredible move, like mcgruber like, the statement 334 00:16:14,308 --> 00:16:17,028 Speaker 1: is this, it's very important. Pizza is a treat that 335 00:16:17,068 --> 00:16:20,428 Speaker 1: can be enjoyed at any time of the night, even 336 00:16:20,468 --> 00:16:23,428 Speaker 1: after dinner. We enter, we out, Jamie, Well, that was 337 00:16:23,468 --> 00:16:25,628 Speaker 1: the clarification when we heard the story in the break 338 00:16:25,708 --> 00:16:27,428 Speaker 1: before they said it in the segment. It was they 339 00:16:27,748 --> 00:16:30,268 Speaker 1: had gone to dinner themselves and then someone invited them 340 00:16:30,308 --> 00:16:33,028 Speaker 1: to pizza, and they felt obligated to go do that too, 341 00:16:33,028 --> 00:16:35,588 Speaker 1: which is why they had the second dinner. Um, but 342 00:16:35,708 --> 00:16:38,548 Speaker 1: I am so far in on pizza at any time 343 00:16:38,588 --> 00:16:41,908 Speaker 1: of day. It's like that Friend's episode where Rachel makes 344 00:16:41,948 --> 00:16:44,628 Speaker 1: an atrocious trifle and she puts beef in it, and 345 00:16:44,708 --> 00:16:47,228 Speaker 1: Joey is just saying, Joey's the only one that likes it, 346 00:16:47,228 --> 00:16:51,988 Speaker 1: and Joey's like beef good, onions good, jam good. Like 347 00:16:52,028 --> 00:16:57,108 Speaker 1: that's how I feel about pizza. Crust good, cheese, right, sauce. 348 00:16:57,588 --> 00:16:59,428 Speaker 1: It literally could be cold, it could be two am, 349 00:16:59,428 --> 00:17:01,788 Speaker 1: it could be five pm. Like, I'll eat any pizza 350 00:17:02,068 --> 00:17:04,108 Speaker 1: I don't. I have no I have no stigma or 351 00:17:04,748 --> 00:17:07,548 Speaker 1: about pizza. I literally eat anything you love, everything about 352 00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,348 Speaker 1: everything about it, like that little table that holds the 353 00:17:09,348 --> 00:17:15,148 Speaker 1: box up in the everything about it a little different. Kiles, Chicago, 354 00:17:15,428 --> 00:17:18,588 Speaker 1: I'm New Jersey. We have debated a deep dish. This 355 00:17:18,668 --> 00:17:21,628 Speaker 1: is a pretty cliched conversation. But guys, are you guys 356 00:17:21,628 --> 00:17:24,548 Speaker 1: are new to our show? What style of pizza or 357 00:17:24,588 --> 00:17:26,148 Speaker 1: Jamie and Jason eating if we all go out to 358 00:17:26,188 --> 00:17:30,148 Speaker 1: the well. If I had to pick, I would go 359 00:17:30,268 --> 00:17:37,548 Speaker 1: Detroit style pizza who the corners and like the seasoned guy, Yeah, 360 00:17:37,588 --> 00:17:39,388 Speaker 1: I've had it, but I'm going New York style. You 361 00:17:39,468 --> 00:17:43,308 Speaker 1: folded pizza in half like that. That is just northeast thing, like, 362 00:17:43,348 --> 00:17:48,188 Speaker 1: that's what we did. So deep this guy listen, Alan Robinson, 363 00:17:48,228 --> 00:17:50,228 Speaker 1: the Receivers from Detroit. He's with the Bears for a while. 364 00:17:50,228 --> 00:17:52,068 Speaker 1: He admitted while he's with the Bears that he likes 365 00:17:52,068 --> 00:17:53,828 Speaker 1: Detroit style, but in Chicago. I think it's part of 366 00:17:53,828 --> 00:17:57,188 Speaker 1: the reason with the Rams right now and now he's 367 00:17:57,228 --> 00:18:01,868 Speaker 1: in a great pizza counter, So let me get the straight. Yeah, 368 00:18:01,908 --> 00:18:05,668 Speaker 1: the two gentlemen this is Kansas City barbecue dinner and 369 00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:09,548 Speaker 1: then at pizza gorged themselves with ribs and that's risk it. 370 00:18:09,668 --> 00:18:11,708 Speaker 1: That's the guy. I'm out. I mean, I love pizza 371 00:18:11,708 --> 00:18:13,868 Speaker 1: as much as the next guy. Obviously, there's no part 372 00:18:13,908 --> 00:18:16,028 Speaker 1: if you after you have burnt ends and brisk and 373 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,388 Speaker 1: all the like. You know, I even go for some 374 00:18:17,388 --> 00:18:19,748 Speaker 1: more salt and poor five me a pepper is that's disgusting. 375 00:18:19,908 --> 00:18:21,468 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things about pizza that are 376 00:18:21,508 --> 00:18:23,788 Speaker 1: not true, like it's good anytime. The whole thing about 377 00:18:23,788 --> 00:18:25,908 Speaker 1: like I don't don't think it's good at after barbecue, 378 00:18:25,948 --> 00:18:27,748 Speaker 1: for example, I like in the morning. But like people, 379 00:18:27,828 --> 00:18:31,508 Speaker 1: people will be like, there's no such thing as bad pizza. 380 00:18:32,068 --> 00:18:33,668 Speaker 1: If you think that you haven't had much of either, 381 00:18:33,788 --> 00:18:35,788 Speaker 1: Like I've had funny of both, and they're believing they're 382 00:18:35,828 --> 00:18:38,068 Speaker 1: both real. So I'm gonna be out on this. I 383 00:18:38,108 --> 00:18:40,228 Speaker 1: might at the same time. There, I'm out on this. 384 00:18:40,388 --> 00:18:43,428 Speaker 1: I can I'm okay with this, well I was. I'm 385 00:18:43,468 --> 00:18:45,788 Speaker 1: transitioning a little bit. I've always been able to eat 386 00:18:45,788 --> 00:18:47,988 Speaker 1: whatever I want. Freshman year of high school, five six, 387 00:18:48,148 --> 00:18:50,428 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five pounds, Give me as much 388 00:18:50,468 --> 00:18:53,068 Speaker 1: piece as you possibly can. Now, I'm sorry. You were 389 00:18:53,148 --> 00:18:57,748 Speaker 1: five s That is how I big? Was that how 390 00:18:57,748 --> 00:19:02,388 Speaker 1: big I was? Yes? Yes, wow, I've grown, But now 391 00:19:02,628 --> 00:19:05,388 Speaker 1: transitioning out. I haven't worked out since we started the show. 392 00:19:05,548 --> 00:19:07,588 Speaker 1: I can't have pizza anytime, like I'm trying to keep 393 00:19:07,788 --> 00:19:09,868 Speaker 1: my figure. I want to continue to look okay, like 394 00:19:10,068 --> 00:19:12,148 Speaker 1: when my wife to desire me when I get home. 395 00:19:12,188 --> 00:19:15,308 Speaker 1: So pizza, pizza anytime. I can tell you really falling 396 00:19:15,308 --> 00:19:18,908 Speaker 1: apart physic. Yeah, I was gonna say, get it together, shorts. 397 00:19:18,948 --> 00:19:20,788 Speaker 1: On yesterday, I was like, you could go play a 398 00:19:20,908 --> 00:19:24,508 Speaker 1: hundred snaps, like right now, a little a little treat 399 00:19:24,548 --> 00:19:28,308 Speaker 1: for you here, let's bring out the pizza. Don't do 400 00:19:28,388 --> 00:19:33,508 Speaker 1: that too stop. Where are you that you were so 401 00:19:33,668 --> 00:19:42,548 Speaker 1: excited that pizza and Skittles. Would you have skittles? That 402 00:19:42,708 --> 00:19:46,148 Speaker 1: is the dream meal? Oftentimes when I eat pizza or 403 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:51,308 Speaker 1: something that is salty like pizza, I need, like immediately skittles. No, 404 00:19:51,388 --> 00:19:55,788 Speaker 1: not sweet like a specific yes, specifically like we're gonna know, 405 00:19:55,868 --> 00:19:58,668 Speaker 1: Jamie so well, yeah, I know it is pretty good. Yeah, 406 00:19:58,708 --> 00:20:01,028 Speaker 1: all kinds of secrets about you. After I eat the barbecue, 407 00:20:01,068 --> 00:20:03,508 Speaker 1: you want frozen yoga or something you know, like, although 408 00:20:03,548 --> 00:20:05,468 Speaker 1: there's no bad time for little seasons, let's be honest 409 00:20:05,468 --> 00:20:12,788 Speaker 1: about that, it's time to believe black. NFL Network is everywhere. 410 00:20:12,868 --> 00:20:14,668 Speaker 1: Let's please, let's get out of this conversation as fast 411 00:20:14,708 --> 00:20:18,388 Speaker 1: as possible. During training camp season, we're everywhere, including Saint Joseph, Missouri, 412 00:20:18,428 --> 00:20:20,428 Speaker 1: where the Chiefs are getting reps in ahead of Week 413 00:20:20,508 --> 00:20:22,788 Speaker 1: one of the preseason. They take on the Bears on 414 00:20:22,828 --> 00:20:25,228 Speaker 1: Saturday at one pm live right here on NFL Network. 415 00:20:25,388 --> 00:20:27,908 Speaker 1: And none other than one Patrick Mahomes swung by the 416 00:20:27,908 --> 00:20:30,308 Speaker 1: inside training camp set to talk to James Palmer and 417 00:20:30,428 --> 00:20:34,468 Speaker 1: Steve Mariuge. So let's take a listen. What was going 418 00:20:34,508 --> 00:20:37,428 Speaker 1: on this offseason when it was here's another player come 419 00:20:37,508 --> 00:20:39,908 Speaker 1: to then it's coming to the afcus, here's another player 420 00:20:39,908 --> 00:20:42,708 Speaker 1: come to the FUS. Here's another pass rusher to the AFCUS. 421 00:20:42,788 --> 00:20:44,908 Speaker 1: What was what was your mindset as all these moves 422 00:20:44,908 --> 00:20:47,148 Speaker 1: were happening with the other teams in your division. Yeah, 423 00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:50,828 Speaker 1: I mean it excites you, honestly. I mean, obviously AFCUS 424 00:20:50,908 --> 00:20:52,548 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great division, probably the best division 425 00:20:52,588 --> 00:20:54,108 Speaker 1: of football. But for me, I feel like it's been 426 00:20:54,108 --> 00:20:56,268 Speaker 1: a great division for the last six seven years. You 427 00:20:56,308 --> 00:20:58,308 Speaker 1: have to accept that challenge. You have to accept the challenge. 428 00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:00,028 Speaker 1: Every single week you get to play your best football, 429 00:21:00,188 --> 00:21:02,348 Speaker 1: and I think it prepares you for the playoffs. And 430 00:21:02,548 --> 00:21:04,348 Speaker 1: I think if you plan the division that like we do, 431 00:21:04,428 --> 00:21:05,908 Speaker 1: when you play against some of the best teams in 432 00:21:05,948 --> 00:21:07,948 Speaker 1: the AFC, when you get to the playoffs, it will 433 00:21:07,948 --> 00:21:09,468 Speaker 1: be just another game. It won't be a step up 434 00:21:09,468 --> 00:21:11,108 Speaker 1: in the competition because you've been playing against it all 435 00:21:11,148 --> 00:21:16,868 Speaker 1: year long. All right, After all those big additions to 436 00:21:16,948 --> 00:21:20,188 Speaker 1: the AFC West, which has been a strong division, there's 437 00:21:20,508 --> 00:21:23,068 Speaker 1: maybe some doubt about the Chiefs for the first time 438 00:21:23,228 --> 00:21:26,388 Speaker 1: in quite some time. So do we sense that there 439 00:21:26,428 --> 00:21:29,628 Speaker 1: is a little bit more motivation with Patrick Mahomes this season? 440 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,468 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is a guy that plays it cool 441 00:21:32,628 --> 00:21:34,948 Speaker 1: and you hear that voice and you see that smile 442 00:21:35,028 --> 00:21:37,628 Speaker 1: and you see how endearing he is to the NFL 443 00:21:37,708 --> 00:21:40,708 Speaker 1: network guys who are interviewing him in gals, and you're like, oh, 444 00:21:40,708 --> 00:21:43,028 Speaker 1: he's such a sweek. He's got a mean streak. And 445 00:21:43,148 --> 00:21:46,828 Speaker 1: trust me, he's listening to all of this stuff. He's 446 00:21:46,868 --> 00:21:49,348 Speaker 1: one of those guys who takes names and he keeps 447 00:21:49,348 --> 00:21:51,828 Speaker 1: a list, and it's like Santa Claus because at the 448 00:21:51,908 --> 00:21:54,268 Speaker 1: end of the day, he's coming in December and January. 449 00:21:54,788 --> 00:21:58,108 Speaker 1: I go back a few years ago in the NFL 450 00:21:58,188 --> 00:22:01,788 Speaker 1: network an our show had the top one hundred list 451 00:22:01,828 --> 00:22:05,148 Speaker 1: and he was voted number four in the NFL Okay 452 00:22:05,268 --> 00:22:08,428 Speaker 1: number four. How did Mahomes answer? How did he respond? 453 00:22:08,868 --> 00:22:12,028 Speaker 1: Take a look at this celebration afterwards when he scores 454 00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:14,628 Speaker 1: a touchdown on this one and he's gonna show you 455 00:22:14,628 --> 00:22:23,188 Speaker 1: with his fingers how two three four? Question? Really? And 456 00:22:23,228 --> 00:22:25,708 Speaker 1: everyone thought that was some weird that that was because 457 00:22:25,748 --> 00:22:28,388 Speaker 1: he was voted fourth in the NFL one hundred all right, 458 00:22:28,428 --> 00:22:30,508 Speaker 1: And I've heard that from good sources that that's what 459 00:22:30,548 --> 00:22:33,708 Speaker 1: that response was. You're gonna vote me fourth, and lamar one, 460 00:22:34,108 --> 00:22:38,228 Speaker 1: do you vote me fourth? This guy he's motivated and 461 00:22:38,308 --> 00:22:41,468 Speaker 1: you better believe he's hearing that this offense get taken. 462 00:22:41,508 --> 00:22:44,028 Speaker 1: You better believe he heard that. James Jones went on 463 00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:46,508 Speaker 1: a podcast and said that the chiefs of the fourth 464 00:22:46,508 --> 00:22:49,348 Speaker 1: best team, and you better believe Patrick Mahomes is listening 465 00:22:49,388 --> 00:22:51,508 Speaker 1: to people saying he can't get it done without Tyreek Hill. 466 00:22:51,988 --> 00:22:54,428 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes was probably involved in a lot of 467 00:22:54,428 --> 00:22:56,468 Speaker 1: the discussions when Hill was on the way out and 468 00:22:56,508 --> 00:22:59,068 Speaker 1: there was an understanding that we can't pay this guy 469 00:22:59,108 --> 00:23:02,508 Speaker 1: what he wants. We're coming to you, are you? And 470 00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:05,708 Speaker 1: they did replenish that wide receiver room Juju and Marquees Velde, 471 00:23:05,788 --> 00:23:09,228 Speaker 1: Scantling and of course sky More the rookie. I think 472 00:23:09,348 --> 00:23:12,268 Speaker 1: Mahomes might be in the MVP talk yet again, despite 473 00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:15,748 Speaker 1: everyone kind of writing the chief's obituary for the twenty 474 00:23:15,748 --> 00:23:20,028 Speaker 1: twenty two season. I'm in compelling, right, He's very compelling. 475 00:23:20,108 --> 00:23:21,868 Speaker 1: You know it's funny. I think Rogers gonna be MVP 476 00:23:21,948 --> 00:23:23,308 Speaker 1: talk too. I like it, you know what I'm saying, 477 00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:25,028 Speaker 1: For the same reason Bill sticking with Mahomes. I think 478 00:23:25,068 --> 00:23:27,068 Speaker 1: we're an uncharted territory of Mahomes in the sense of 479 00:23:27,068 --> 00:23:29,588 Speaker 1: the way last season ended. Patrick Mahomes couldn't get it done. 480 00:23:29,628 --> 00:23:31,308 Speaker 1: Last year, he messed up at the end of the 481 00:23:31,308 --> 00:23:33,268 Speaker 1: Bengals zam a couple of times, and we've never seen 482 00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:35,348 Speaker 1: that in the whole Mahomes journey. And this is going 483 00:23:35,428 --> 00:23:36,948 Speaker 1: to be the end of the game against the Bengals. 484 00:23:37,548 --> 00:23:39,668 Speaker 1: Remember the first year he lost in the title game 485 00:23:39,708 --> 00:23:42,548 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. He was a blistering force of nature 486 00:23:42,548 --> 00:23:44,748 Speaker 1: in the second half and basically lost the game because 487 00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,588 Speaker 1: they lost the coin toss. Ironically, then the other big 488 00:23:47,668 --> 00:23:49,228 Speaker 1: loss he had was to Tom Brady again in the 489 00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:51,428 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, in which he was heroic because he had 490 00:23:51,468 --> 00:23:54,348 Speaker 1: no help. Anytime they've ended this season with a loss, 491 00:23:54,748 --> 00:23:57,868 Speaker 1: it's not mahomes fault. He's always been like, I was incredible. 492 00:23:57,948 --> 00:23:59,908 Speaker 1: He's like the NBA player who puts up forty six 493 00:23:59,908 --> 00:24:02,708 Speaker 1: points and still loses. Not this time. This time he 494 00:24:02,788 --> 00:24:05,188 Speaker 1: was missing the two free throws making a turnover. We 495 00:24:05,228 --> 00:24:08,948 Speaker 1: have never seen him taste that bitter bite of like, damn, 496 00:24:09,228 --> 00:24:11,668 Speaker 1: I had us and I messed up. It wasn't a 497 00:24:11,668 --> 00:24:15,028 Speaker 1: coin toss, it wasn't somebody on defense. Also, I think 498 00:24:15,028 --> 00:24:17,868 Speaker 1: now Mahomes is now part of a whole class of young, 499 00:24:18,068 --> 00:24:21,788 Speaker 1: brilliant AFC quarterbacks, whereas before he was about the ball 500 00:24:21,828 --> 00:24:23,748 Speaker 1: when he came in, It's like it's him, and it's 501 00:24:23,828 --> 00:24:26,828 Speaker 1: Deshaan who we would handle, and Lamar who he would handle. 502 00:24:27,548 --> 00:24:29,988 Speaker 1: Now we got Allen, and we got Herbert, and we 503 00:24:30,028 --> 00:24:33,948 Speaker 1: got this whole collection of these superstars who are being 504 00:24:34,028 --> 00:24:36,468 Speaker 1: looked at over him, who are saying that there's gonna 505 00:24:36,468 --> 00:24:38,548 Speaker 1: be the equal of him, who are going to pass him. 506 00:24:38,668 --> 00:24:40,988 Speaker 1: That's just even his own division. So I think for 507 00:24:41,028 --> 00:24:43,828 Speaker 1: the first time bitter taste of defeat that was on him, 508 00:24:44,188 --> 00:24:46,988 Speaker 1: and like, what about what about me? I'm Malomes. Yeah, 509 00:24:46,988 --> 00:24:48,988 Speaker 1: we're looking at some other guys. Now, I've never tasted 510 00:24:49,028 --> 00:24:51,028 Speaker 1: that before. And if he's wired, like Peter says, he is, 511 00:24:51,308 --> 00:24:52,908 Speaker 1: like he's out the kill. Doesn't it feel like it's 512 00:24:52,948 --> 00:24:55,628 Speaker 1: been the off season of Josh Allen? Yes, Josh Allen, 513 00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:57,148 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you heard this, but justin 514 00:24:57,188 --> 00:24:59,228 Speaker 1: Herbert's gonna win every MVP for the rest of the year. 515 00:24:59,388 --> 00:25:01,868 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of that and it's not Mahomes, 516 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,148 Speaker 1: it's not, And like it is so stupidly unfair the 517 00:25:04,148 --> 00:25:07,068 Speaker 1: way we judge Mahomes. That he's won the MVP, he's 518 00:25:07,108 --> 00:25:08,828 Speaker 1: been the two Super Bowls, he hosts, the tide him everything. 519 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:11,388 Speaker 1: We're like the bloom is off the roads a little bit. 520 00:25:11,588 --> 00:25:13,788 Speaker 1: He's spectacular, but he couldn't get it done last year, 521 00:25:13,788 --> 00:25:15,548 Speaker 1: no doubt about. You just said it too. We've talked 522 00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:18,748 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen the entire office. We didn't and they 523 00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,788 Speaker 1: beat this in the playoffs. You know, Josh Allen was terrific, 524 00:25:21,948 --> 00:25:25,148 Speaker 1: like really good. But at the same time, in that game, 525 00:25:25,988 --> 00:25:28,428 Speaker 1: thirteen seconds left after Josh Allen just drove his team 526 00:25:28,468 --> 00:25:32,268 Speaker 1: down to score. Andy Reid's advice to Patrick Mahomes when 527 00:25:32,308 --> 00:25:35,588 Speaker 1: it's grim beat the grim reef cool. That's who he is, though, 528 00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:38,108 Speaker 1: Like in those moments, like we just said, yes, last 529 00:25:38,148 --> 00:25:40,988 Speaker 1: year in Cincinnati down the stretch, they he didn't make 530 00:25:41,028 --> 00:25:43,068 Speaker 1: the plays. The ball was in his hands the last 531 00:25:43,068 --> 00:25:47,108 Speaker 1: three plays, two in completions, then in interceptions. But we've 532 00:25:47,148 --> 00:25:49,348 Speaker 1: seen him with the ball in his hands and crucial 533 00:25:49,388 --> 00:25:52,588 Speaker 1: moments and games and he makes those plays. So the 534 00:25:52,708 --> 00:25:55,588 Speaker 1: last thing he remembers is these last three plays and 535 00:25:55,628 --> 00:25:58,268 Speaker 1: the playoffs where they fall short to make it to 536 00:25:58,308 --> 00:26:01,908 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You damn right, he's gonna be motivated 537 00:26:01,948 --> 00:26:05,228 Speaker 1: this year. Forget about the AFC West and everything that's 538 00:26:05,228 --> 00:26:08,148 Speaker 1: been added. He was already motivated the moment he walked 539 00:26:08,148 --> 00:26:10,468 Speaker 1: off this field and knew that he wasn't going back 540 00:26:10,468 --> 00:26:13,268 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. He's been terrific since he was 541 00:26:13,348 --> 00:26:16,748 Speaker 1: handed the job in Kansas City, and that's his standard. 542 00:26:16,948 --> 00:26:18,988 Speaker 1: Like you just say, the way we judge him, we 543 00:26:19,068 --> 00:26:21,308 Speaker 1: judge him that way because of what he's put on tap. 544 00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:24,508 Speaker 1: That's his standard and that's the excellence that he plays with. 545 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,828 Speaker 1: So yes, he's going to be extremely motivated to show that, 546 00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:30,828 Speaker 1: especially now without Tyreek Hill, that he can still get 547 00:26:30,828 --> 00:26:32,788 Speaker 1: his team back to the big game. Hearing what Peter 548 00:26:32,868 --> 00:26:35,468 Speaker 1: had to say makes me nervous about giving him any 549 00:26:35,548 --> 00:26:38,228 Speaker 1: kind of build more material, So I'm gonna ease into 550 00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:43,348 Speaker 1: this one. It's tricky when you consider Patrick Mahomes's motivation 551 00:26:43,508 --> 00:26:46,308 Speaker 1: because is he motivated to get to a super Bowl? No? 552 00:26:46,588 --> 00:26:48,468 Speaker 1: Is he motivated to win a Super Bowl? No, be 553 00:26:48,548 --> 00:26:51,268 Speaker 1: an MVP. No, He's done all of these things already. 554 00:26:51,308 --> 00:26:55,668 Speaker 1: So what is his motivation? What is it to solidify 555 00:26:55,908 --> 00:26:58,788 Speaker 1: a legacy that he is already well on his way 556 00:26:58,908 --> 00:27:01,468 Speaker 1: to cementing That's where I think he needs to be 557 00:27:01,548 --> 00:27:03,308 Speaker 1: right now. Pierre, he made a great point, Like I 558 00:27:03,388 --> 00:27:05,828 Speaker 1: have a hard time reading Patrick mahons. He's such a 559 00:27:05,908 --> 00:27:10,868 Speaker 1: cool customer the game. The game comes so easily to him. 560 00:27:11,308 --> 00:27:14,308 Speaker 1: And in that in that first year we have fifty touchdowns, 561 00:27:14,388 --> 00:27:17,068 Speaker 1: the fact that we've never seen that number before, what 562 00:27:17,148 --> 00:27:19,908 Speaker 1: does that say about him? And maybe the way he 563 00:27:19,988 --> 00:27:23,108 Speaker 1: was relying a lot on his athleticism and how easily 564 00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:24,948 Speaker 1: the game came to him, maybe he needs to get 565 00:27:24,948 --> 00:27:27,828 Speaker 1: back to I know it might be hard for someone 566 00:27:27,828 --> 00:27:29,988 Speaker 1: who is as talented as he is, but the Xes 567 00:27:30,028 --> 00:27:32,828 Speaker 1: and Os trusting, and Eric b Enemy trusting and Andy 568 00:27:32,868 --> 00:27:35,708 Speaker 1: Reid to show him the way in times where maybe 569 00:27:35,748 --> 00:27:38,508 Speaker 1: he needs some guidance. He has an opportunity here to 570 00:27:38,548 --> 00:27:42,308 Speaker 1: solidify himself, to separate himself once again from this conversation 571 00:27:42,308 --> 00:27:44,948 Speaker 1: of those young quarterbacks, because he was already head and 572 00:27:44,988 --> 00:27:47,628 Speaker 1: shoulders above those guys before this even began. They were 573 00:27:47,668 --> 00:27:49,388 Speaker 1: down and out last year. At one point they're they're 574 00:27:49,388 --> 00:27:51,348 Speaker 1: on their backs. Remember they lost to Buffalo in historic 575 00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:55,108 Speaker 1: fashion in Kansas City. They had lost to Cincinnati on 576 00:27:55,148 --> 00:27:57,628 Speaker 1: the road. And I look back at some of those 577 00:27:57,668 --> 00:27:59,708 Speaker 1: weird losses last year and like there were there were 578 00:27:59,748 --> 00:28:01,948 Speaker 1: doubters and mahomes and why can't the offense get going? 579 00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:04,468 Speaker 1: The defense is carrying them. They barely scored against the 580 00:28:04,468 --> 00:28:07,068 Speaker 1: Giants and every like then it all came together and 581 00:28:07,108 --> 00:28:08,508 Speaker 1: then they went on this run. They were the one seed, 582 00:28:08,628 --> 00:28:11,468 Speaker 1: and it's like, it's so they're such a hard out, 583 00:28:11,588 --> 00:28:14,348 Speaker 1: like they were not great last year and they were 584 00:28:14,388 --> 00:28:16,188 Speaker 1: the one seed, like they are such a well they 585 00:28:16,188 --> 00:28:18,148 Speaker 1: were once the Titans lost. I'm saying they hosted the 586 00:28:18,188 --> 00:28:21,068 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, but they were such a hard out 587 00:28:21,068 --> 00:28:23,148 Speaker 1: and they didn't even play their best last year. I 588 00:28:23,188 --> 00:28:26,228 Speaker 1: think all of that, they're like impossible, He's impossible to slay. 589 00:28:26,628 --> 00:28:29,268 Speaker 1: You need something like this. The Bengals habuch was maybe 590 00:28:29,348 --> 00:28:31,828 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime performance by all those defensive players 591 00:28:32,108 --> 00:28:33,708 Speaker 1: and for Burrow to really lead them out. But there 592 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:36,428 Speaker 1: were flashes like in that AFC Championship game, that play 593 00:28:36,468 --> 00:28:38,028 Speaker 1: that you brought a couple of weeks brought up a 594 00:28:38,068 --> 00:28:40,148 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago where he didn't stay with the 595 00:28:40,228 --> 00:28:42,428 Speaker 1: read long enough and he went out on the left 596 00:28:42,468 --> 00:28:44,788 Speaker 1: side and he should have just let the run happen 597 00:28:44,828 --> 00:28:47,908 Speaker 1: in front of him. It's little moments like that where 598 00:28:48,348 --> 00:28:53,108 Speaker 1: you know he Tom Brady studies years of his life 599 00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:55,868 Speaker 1: he's given away to knowing when to make the right 600 00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:59,468 Speaker 1: decision and where to put the football and is that 601 00:28:59,628 --> 00:29:02,508 Speaker 1: experience like Patrick Mahomes just needs to continue to grow 602 00:29:02,508 --> 00:29:04,668 Speaker 1: on his experience to know like to watch how a 603 00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:06,228 Speaker 1: game unfolds in front of him and to make the 604 00:29:06,308 --> 00:29:08,348 Speaker 1: right choice there. I think it's one of those things 605 00:29:08,388 --> 00:29:10,828 Speaker 1: when you're as talented as he is, that same play 606 00:29:10,908 --> 00:29:14,948 Speaker 1: could happen nine more times. And those nine times he 607 00:29:15,028 --> 00:29:18,028 Speaker 1: keeps the ball and makes a terrific pass and they 608 00:29:18,108 --> 00:29:20,828 Speaker 1: go on second down, they march the ball down the 609 00:29:20,828 --> 00:29:23,188 Speaker 1: field and they score, and we never talk about the 610 00:29:23,268 --> 00:29:25,868 Speaker 1: first intent play where he maybe should have handed the 611 00:29:25,868 --> 00:29:28,908 Speaker 1: ball off. These guys are Patrick Mahomes, the Bradies. These 612 00:29:28,948 --> 00:29:32,108 Speaker 1: guys make such great decisions with the ball in their hands. 613 00:29:32,148 --> 00:29:35,668 Speaker 1: And Mahomes is so great at the off schedule plays, 614 00:29:35,668 --> 00:29:38,828 Speaker 1: so you never really want to question if we're keeping 615 00:29:38,828 --> 00:29:41,428 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. But when you don't make 616 00:29:41,468 --> 00:29:43,548 Speaker 1: the play, and we look at three straight plays where 617 00:29:43,588 --> 00:29:45,748 Speaker 1: you don't make it, it comes down to, hey, when 618 00:29:45,748 --> 00:29:48,468 Speaker 1: we win, it's all on you. When we lose, it's 619 00:29:48,468 --> 00:29:50,188 Speaker 1: all on you. The life of a quarterback, and they 620 00:29:50,348 --> 00:29:53,428 Speaker 1: forgot that. If it's if you're grim, be the grim reapers, 621 00:29:54,788 --> 00:30:09,988 Speaker 1: grim hand the ship Rogers throws a right shine making 622 00:30:10,028 --> 00:30:17,628 Speaker 1: the catch. Are diving down the right side. Let's stard 623 00:30:17,748 --> 00:30:21,748 Speaker 1: the cats clean big rabbling ends touch down, Brave Bay 624 00:30:23,268 --> 00:30:28,428 Speaker 1: say catch for Helen Lizard flip side, got a man 625 00:30:28,508 --> 00:30:31,188 Speaker 1: wide open, lizard slip to the fender to the end 626 00:30:31,228 --> 00:30:37,788 Speaker 1: to touch down. Man. It's always good to talk to 627 00:30:37,908 --> 00:30:39,948 Speaker 1: the guys that come into the league at the bottom 628 00:30:39,988 --> 00:30:42,468 Speaker 1: and work their way to the top. And this next 629 00:30:42,548 --> 00:30:46,108 Speaker 1: guy is in line to be Aaron Rodgers's new favorite 630 00:30:46,228 --> 00:30:50,188 Speaker 1: target this season, coming off of his best year yet. 631 00:30:50,508 --> 00:30:53,588 Speaker 1: But more is to come. Welcome to the show, Packers 632 00:30:53,748 --> 00:30:59,668 Speaker 1: wide receiver Alan Lazar. Let's go thank you, thank you 633 00:30:59,828 --> 00:31:02,708 Speaker 1: for having me for sure, for sure appreciate you coming. 634 00:31:02,788 --> 00:31:07,508 Speaker 1: Man joining the show twenty eighteen, undrafted rookie. You enter 635 00:31:07,868 --> 00:31:11,268 Speaker 1: the NFL now in your fifth season with the Green 636 00:31:11,308 --> 00:31:15,548 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Production has gone up every single season from 637 00:31:15,588 --> 00:31:18,508 Speaker 1: where you started to where you are now. Man, how 638 00:31:18,588 --> 00:31:20,188 Speaker 1: do you feel about the journey and what have you 639 00:31:20,308 --> 00:31:24,548 Speaker 1: learned so far? Wow, it's just been an incredible journey. Honestly, 640 00:31:24,988 --> 00:31:27,428 Speaker 1: like you said, going undrafted in twenty eighteen was not 641 00:31:27,588 --> 00:31:30,828 Speaker 1: the route that I visualized growing up. You know, something 642 00:31:30,868 --> 00:31:34,068 Speaker 1: I dreamed about hearing your name called on that stage 643 00:31:34,068 --> 00:31:36,188 Speaker 1: by Roger Goodell and being selected by a team and 644 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,668 Speaker 1: then going there. You know, I think my route is 645 00:31:38,708 --> 00:31:41,148 Speaker 1: a little bit different, but I'm so humble and I'm 646 00:31:41,228 --> 00:31:43,508 Speaker 1: so blessed to have gone through the things that I've 647 00:31:43,508 --> 00:31:45,668 Speaker 1: gone through because I've learned so much, not only just 648 00:31:45,788 --> 00:31:48,268 Speaker 1: as an athlete and as a professional, but just as 649 00:31:48,348 --> 00:31:51,868 Speaker 1: a human and personally with my development off the field 650 00:31:51,908 --> 00:31:53,828 Speaker 1: as well, which has helped me get to where I 651 00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:58,148 Speaker 1: am today. It's incredible, and what a great answer. Alan. 652 00:31:58,188 --> 00:32:00,788 Speaker 1: We're going to take a unique route here and ask 653 00:32:00,868 --> 00:32:02,748 Speaker 1: you about replacing Davante Adams. I don't know if you've 654 00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:06,388 Speaker 1: heard that before up in camp, if anybody talks about it, listen, 655 00:32:06,708 --> 00:32:08,948 Speaker 1: fact is your quarterback says there's going to be the 656 00:32:09,028 --> 00:32:11,628 Speaker 1: same number of targets, yards, and touchdowns will go around 657 00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:14,308 Speaker 1: this year, even without number seventeen. He said, You're the 658 00:32:14,348 --> 00:32:16,428 Speaker 1: guy's going to step in that number one role. So 659 00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:18,988 Speaker 1: I know you've been asked this a thousand times. You 660 00:32:19,068 --> 00:32:21,388 Speaker 1: have this great story undrafted. You work your butt off, 661 00:32:21,428 --> 00:32:24,588 Speaker 1: You've got in this position, and it's constantly about Davante this, 662 00:32:24,748 --> 00:32:27,068 Speaker 1: Davante that. How confident are you You're gonna be able 663 00:32:27,108 --> 00:32:31,508 Speaker 1: to step in and shut everybody up about that. Extremely confident. 664 00:32:31,548 --> 00:32:33,748 Speaker 1: You know. It's something I've been working for, working hard 665 00:32:33,828 --> 00:32:35,908 Speaker 1: at for the past several years. You know. It's something 666 00:32:35,948 --> 00:32:38,748 Speaker 1: like I said, going into the draft is what eventually 667 00:32:38,788 --> 00:32:41,468 Speaker 1: I wanted to work myself into that number one role. 668 00:32:41,828 --> 00:32:44,468 Speaker 1: Now there's been games where we've missed Davante, we've missed 669 00:32:44,468 --> 00:32:47,508 Speaker 1: other guys, or Davante has gotten more coverage where my 670 00:32:47,828 --> 00:32:51,028 Speaker 1: target have gone up in a sense, and so it's 671 00:32:51,108 --> 00:32:53,668 Speaker 1: not like an unfamiliar role for me, you know, especially 672 00:32:53,988 --> 00:32:56,308 Speaker 1: be in an Iowa state. I'm in high school of 673 00:32:56,428 --> 00:32:58,868 Speaker 1: being the main guy and everything. It's just I'm doing 674 00:32:58,908 --> 00:33:00,708 Speaker 1: it on a different level now. So I'm very excited 675 00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:03,148 Speaker 1: for the opportunity. And I don't think you'd ask for 676 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:07,188 Speaker 1: a better quarterback to do it with. It's it's you're 677 00:33:07,228 --> 00:33:09,268 Speaker 1: saying the right things and we know that you you 678 00:33:09,428 --> 00:33:12,028 Speaker 1: walk the walk as well. We've been on the show 679 00:33:12,108 --> 00:33:14,788 Speaker 1: all summer long, and for ten days we've been covering 680 00:33:14,828 --> 00:33:16,948 Speaker 1: all the teams and there's one name that keeps on 681 00:33:17,108 --> 00:33:19,988 Speaker 1: coming up here, and it's a rookie fourth round pick 682 00:33:20,468 --> 00:33:24,788 Speaker 1: named Romeo Dobbs. Let's go it's been midthreel, like, what 683 00:33:24,908 --> 00:33:27,228 Speaker 1: are you seeing from this kid? Because right now it 684 00:33:27,348 --> 00:33:30,068 Speaker 1: feels like we're here in New York City, we're looking 685 00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:32,428 Speaker 1: at a satellite and and it's and and there's some 686 00:33:32,748 --> 00:33:35,788 Speaker 1: wonderful thing happening that's far from our grasp. What is 687 00:33:35,828 --> 00:33:37,828 Speaker 1: the real deal with this kid Romeo Dobbs And it's 688 00:33:37,868 --> 00:33:40,228 Speaker 1: he having it the summer that everyone is saying he 689 00:33:40,348 --> 00:33:43,948 Speaker 1: is up there in Green Bay. Yeah, I think Romeo 690 00:33:44,028 --> 00:33:46,748 Speaker 1: is extremely talented. Um You're able to see his potential 691 00:33:46,988 --> 00:33:50,068 Speaker 1: on being very high. He's made fantastic plays all through 692 00:33:50,068 --> 00:33:52,068 Speaker 1: our camp. Honestly, every single day he's kind of had 693 00:33:52,108 --> 00:33:55,548 Speaker 1: a wild momentum from all of us. But I think 694 00:33:55,588 --> 00:33:58,908 Speaker 1: the most impressive thing about Romeo is just like his workout, 695 00:33:58,908 --> 00:34:01,748 Speaker 1: that tenacity every single day. When he does have a mistake, 696 00:34:01,788 --> 00:34:04,308 Speaker 1: which is very seldom and very so often, you can 697 00:34:04,388 --> 00:34:07,388 Speaker 1: seeing how much upsets them. And that's something that UM 698 00:34:08,468 --> 00:34:11,428 Speaker 1: I took from like Davante and other greats around here 699 00:34:11,428 --> 00:34:13,908 Speaker 1: in this building of just like on that standing up 700 00:34:13,948 --> 00:34:15,908 Speaker 1: perfection in a sense, even though we know that's not 701 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,748 Speaker 1: possible and it's not true to be perfect, you know 702 00:34:18,828 --> 00:34:21,148 Speaker 1: we're aiming for that because that's the Green Bay standard 703 00:34:21,548 --> 00:34:23,788 Speaker 1: and that's just how we care ourselves in our room. 704 00:34:23,908 --> 00:34:27,348 Speaker 1: So Romeo as well as other younger guys. You know, 705 00:34:27,428 --> 00:34:30,828 Speaker 1: I think they've been coming along very well throughout camp 706 00:34:31,188 --> 00:34:33,188 Speaker 1: and continue to keep on growing. You know, we have 707 00:34:33,268 --> 00:34:36,268 Speaker 1: this first preseason game coming Friday, and we'll be excited 708 00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:40,868 Speaker 1: to see them in live action. Absolutely, I'm alan. We're 709 00:34:40,948 --> 00:34:43,988 Speaker 1: on this show fifteen hours a week. We're talking football 710 00:34:44,108 --> 00:34:46,428 Speaker 1: up and down, left and right, trying to find new angles. 711 00:34:46,468 --> 00:34:50,468 Speaker 1: We're constantly talking about your quarterback. And as a fan, 712 00:34:51,708 --> 00:34:53,548 Speaker 1: we'd like to pretend like we know what this is like. 713 00:34:53,708 --> 00:34:55,588 Speaker 1: But what is it like to play for a Hall 714 00:34:55,628 --> 00:34:57,988 Speaker 1: of Famer play with all? I mean, it's gotta be. 715 00:34:58,188 --> 00:35:00,308 Speaker 1: It's gotta be make you happy to wake up every 716 00:35:00,388 --> 00:35:02,148 Speaker 1: day and be like, that's the guy I'm catching football 717 00:35:02,188 --> 00:35:06,668 Speaker 1: stramas I know would make me happy. Yeah. Absolutely. Um 718 00:35:07,108 --> 00:35:10,348 Speaker 1: Being able to work with him, just his intelligence, his 719 00:35:11,188 --> 00:35:12,708 Speaker 1: knowledge of the game, of just being able to put 720 00:35:12,748 --> 00:35:15,068 Speaker 1: you in the right position. It takes so much pressure 721 00:35:15,108 --> 00:35:18,068 Speaker 1: off of me personally, just knowing that if I just 722 00:35:18,268 --> 00:35:20,428 Speaker 1: do whatever he says, more than likely I'll be wide 723 00:35:20,468 --> 00:35:22,348 Speaker 1: open and the ball is going to be where it 724 00:35:22,428 --> 00:35:24,468 Speaker 1: needs to be so if I just run my route, 725 00:35:24,548 --> 00:35:25,708 Speaker 1: the ball would be there and I just got to 726 00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:29,428 Speaker 1: make the catch. But he challenges everyone. He holds himself 727 00:35:29,468 --> 00:35:31,748 Speaker 1: to an extremely high standard. That's why he's a four time, 728 00:35:32,228 --> 00:35:34,788 Speaker 1: two time back to back we're not two times, but 729 00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,348 Speaker 1: back to back MVP winner the past few seasons is 730 00:35:37,388 --> 00:35:39,708 Speaker 1: because of how much he demands out of himself. He 731 00:35:39,828 --> 00:35:42,988 Speaker 1: doesn't let that that demand or that standard slip for 732 00:35:43,028 --> 00:35:45,068 Speaker 1: anyone else. And I think he's just able to bring 733 00:35:45,108 --> 00:35:46,948 Speaker 1: out the best of every single one on the field 734 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,748 Speaker 1: and this an entire organization and be able to play 735 00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:52,548 Speaker 1: with him. It is definitely a privilege and makes it 736 00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:55,068 Speaker 1: for a challenge sometimes, but we all we all appreciate 737 00:35:55,148 --> 00:35:57,388 Speaker 1: the challenge, and I think that's the reason why we're 738 00:35:57,388 --> 00:36:00,868 Speaker 1: able to have a lot of success. Alan. If you've 739 00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:04,228 Speaker 1: watched our show, you know we've mentioned this before. Your 740 00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:07,028 Speaker 1: of the best blocking wide receivers in the NFL. It's 741 00:36:07,068 --> 00:36:10,388 Speaker 1: mentioned a lot and might not make Fantasy football headlines 742 00:36:10,428 --> 00:36:13,908 Speaker 1: and it doesn't always get Twitter ablaze. Talk about your 743 00:36:13,948 --> 00:36:16,548 Speaker 1: blocking prowess and why you as a wide receiver takes 744 00:36:16,588 --> 00:36:18,828 Speaker 1: so much pride in the fact that you're known around 745 00:36:18,868 --> 00:36:22,228 Speaker 1: the league as that dude. Oh well, and it kind 746 00:36:22,268 --> 00:36:24,148 Speaker 1: of goes back to me being undrafted. You know, I 747 00:36:24,268 --> 00:36:26,828 Speaker 1: saw it as an opportunity to make myself valuable to 748 00:36:26,948 --> 00:36:30,308 Speaker 1: this team. With the coacial floors offense and everything. We 749 00:36:30,468 --> 00:36:33,228 Speaker 1: run the ball very heavy inside the box and everything, 750 00:36:33,268 --> 00:36:35,548 Speaker 1: and I knew that as a wide receiver, blocking the 751 00:36:35,588 --> 00:36:38,228 Speaker 1: safety and be able to make that block could spring 752 00:36:38,268 --> 00:36:40,548 Speaker 1: those explosive plays which could ten a four or six 753 00:36:40,668 --> 00:36:44,228 Speaker 1: yard run into a twenty thirty yard run potentially a touchdown. 754 00:36:44,308 --> 00:36:48,068 Speaker 1: So I saw the value that I could bring to 755 00:36:48,148 --> 00:36:50,468 Speaker 1: the receiver room, to the team, and you know, I 756 00:36:50,588 --> 00:36:52,708 Speaker 1: just as a competitor, I just want to win. And 757 00:36:52,828 --> 00:36:55,428 Speaker 1: so when I early on in my career, I kind 758 00:36:55,468 --> 00:36:57,148 Speaker 1: of set out as that being my goal to be 759 00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:00,588 Speaker 1: able to distinguish myself as the best blocking wide receiver 760 00:37:00,668 --> 00:37:02,948 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And it continued that path and to 761 00:37:03,068 --> 00:37:05,868 Speaker 1: continued growing them from there on. Now, obviously being in 762 00:37:06,508 --> 00:37:09,268 Speaker 1: the number one receiver role, you know I probably won't 763 00:37:09,308 --> 00:37:12,228 Speaker 1: be blocking as much, but that won't mean my productional lack. 764 00:37:12,548 --> 00:37:13,988 Speaker 1: You know, it just means I'll get more targets in 765 00:37:14,028 --> 00:37:16,028 Speaker 1: that sense and be able to produce as well. Just 766 00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:20,588 Speaker 1: have an overall solid game. Yeah, for sure. As a corner, 767 00:37:20,628 --> 00:37:23,228 Speaker 1: you always hated the big body receivers come and pushing 768 00:37:23,228 --> 00:37:24,988 Speaker 1: you on a run play when you want to kind 769 00:37:25,028 --> 00:37:27,748 Speaker 1: of get a breather. But man, Jay Alexander is a 770 00:37:27,788 --> 00:37:30,628 Speaker 1: guy I love to watch play. The ficiness to attitude 771 00:37:30,668 --> 00:37:34,068 Speaker 1: and what he plays with. And you're an extremely confident receiver. 772 00:37:34,268 --> 00:37:37,108 Speaker 1: You don't mind talking and doing those things too. Where 773 00:37:37,108 --> 00:37:39,988 Speaker 1: do you guys training camp battles like the one on ones, 774 00:37:40,028 --> 00:37:42,588 Speaker 1: the seven on seven is the team drills? What is 775 00:37:42,588 --> 00:37:44,188 Speaker 1: it like when you two are going head to head? 776 00:37:45,828 --> 00:37:47,868 Speaker 1: It's always intense. You know. We were just had a discussion, 777 00:37:47,988 --> 00:37:51,068 Speaker 1: like the other day he kind of threw me to 778 00:37:51,148 --> 00:37:53,028 Speaker 1: the ground trying to strip the ball and stuff. I'm like, 779 00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:54,428 Speaker 1: hey man, you gotta keep me up. He's like, hey, 780 00:37:54,508 --> 00:37:56,508 Speaker 1: you know, whenever we go get each other, it's a 781 00:37:56,548 --> 00:37:58,348 Speaker 1: live rep every single time. I think it's just a 782 00:37:58,868 --> 00:38:02,508 Speaker 1: testament to him and how he goes about practicing the 783 00:38:02,588 --> 00:38:04,268 Speaker 1: reason why he's be able to have such success of 784 00:38:04,428 --> 00:38:06,948 Speaker 1: the past few years. To me, he's undoubtedly one of 785 00:38:06,948 --> 00:38:09,788 Speaker 1: the best corners in the league. You can still at 786 00:38:09,828 --> 00:38:12,628 Speaker 1: his production. Everything he doesn't get hurt. Last year, his 787 00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:15,788 Speaker 1: numbers would have been through the roof. But Jayres is 788 00:38:15,828 --> 00:38:19,708 Speaker 1: an extremely talented player, a great person, and you know, 789 00:38:19,748 --> 00:38:21,548 Speaker 1: I think he demands the best out of me every 790 00:38:21,548 --> 00:38:23,388 Speaker 1: single day, and I know that he's only making any better. 791 00:38:25,348 --> 00:38:27,708 Speaker 1: You give an incredible interview, man, these are incredible answers. 792 00:38:27,748 --> 00:38:29,588 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for all the generosity here. But 793 00:38:29,668 --> 00:38:32,668 Speaker 1: we have to ask one more question. When you were 794 00:38:32,748 --> 00:38:35,588 Speaker 1: two years old, Alan, Hollywood released a major motion picture 795 00:38:35,628 --> 00:38:38,988 Speaker 1: called kahn Air and in the year twenty twenty two, 796 00:38:39,428 --> 00:38:42,548 Speaker 1: it's spiked in popularity out of nowhere and everyone was 797 00:38:42,588 --> 00:38:44,988 Speaker 1: watching it. And it's because of this. This is the 798 00:38:45,068 --> 00:38:47,948 Speaker 1: QB one showing up to training camp dressed as head 799 00:38:47,948 --> 00:38:50,188 Speaker 1: to toe as Nicholas Cage and Roll with Cameron Poe 800 00:38:50,268 --> 00:38:53,268 Speaker 1: and Khair. We asked you about this because he was 801 00:38:53,308 --> 00:38:55,388 Speaker 1: sitting down with a couple of colleagues of ours and 802 00:38:55,508 --> 00:38:58,868 Speaker 1: saying that you actually played a pivotal role in assembling 803 00:38:58,908 --> 00:39:01,388 Speaker 1: the outfit. Can you tell us the story of it please, 804 00:39:01,428 --> 00:39:05,268 Speaker 1: and how this came to be? Yeah, Um, so I 805 00:39:05,348 --> 00:39:06,668 Speaker 1: was gonna go over. It was like the night before 806 00:39:06,748 --> 00:39:09,508 Speaker 1: camp officially started, like we had our condition. Test Um. 807 00:39:09,788 --> 00:39:11,508 Speaker 1: I just hit him up, just wanted I knew he 808 00:39:11,548 --> 00:39:12,788 Speaker 1: got back to town. I was back in town. I 809 00:39:12,828 --> 00:39:14,828 Speaker 1: just wanted to meet up with them, hang out, um, 810 00:39:14,948 --> 00:39:17,188 Speaker 1: catch up and everything. And before I came over, he 811 00:39:17,268 --> 00:39:20,428 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, do you have um any Beater tank tops? 812 00:39:20,468 --> 00:39:23,228 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, but I'm actually been meaning 813 00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:24,428 Speaker 1: to go grab them. So if you want me to 814 00:39:24,508 --> 00:39:28,308 Speaker 1: grab something, I can. So He's like, yes, if if 815 00:39:28,428 --> 00:39:31,308 Speaker 1: if you're going already, please but if not, then then 816 00:39:31,388 --> 00:39:32,948 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. And I was like, I'll just 817 00:39:33,068 --> 00:39:34,628 Speaker 1: go ahead and grab it, just to make sure that 818 00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:37,748 Speaker 1: for whatever reason that he that he that he has 819 00:39:37,868 --> 00:39:41,028 Speaker 1: a Beater tank top. Um, little did I know it 820 00:39:41,108 --> 00:39:44,108 Speaker 1: was for con Air and Nicholas Cage and nor have 821 00:39:44,228 --> 00:39:46,628 Speaker 1: I even seen the movie. Um, but I think he 822 00:39:46,748 --> 00:39:51,348 Speaker 1: pulls off out very well. But Alan, why did you 823 00:39:51,548 --> 00:39:54,028 Speaker 1: need some Beater tank tops? Is that like a normal 824 00:39:54,148 --> 00:39:55,628 Speaker 1: style for you? Is that what you were? Is that 825 00:39:55,668 --> 00:39:59,388 Speaker 1: what you wrong? Why do you assume? Yes? Yeah, I 826 00:39:59,468 --> 00:40:02,548 Speaker 1: don't know why he assumes I had him honestly his air, 827 00:40:03,508 --> 00:40:05,468 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I like to wear them every 828 00:40:05,468 --> 00:40:07,108 Speaker 1: once in a while around the house, just you know, 829 00:40:07,268 --> 00:40:10,508 Speaker 1: moving around summertime. It's humid here in Green Bay just now. 830 00:40:10,588 --> 00:40:12,548 Speaker 1: Sometimes a T shirt's just a little bit too much. 831 00:40:14,108 --> 00:40:16,828 Speaker 1: I was legitimately shifted to the edge of my seat 832 00:40:16,828 --> 00:40:18,708 Speaker 1: as who told the best of that story? I the 833 00:40:18,868 --> 00:40:21,068 Speaker 1: behind the scenes is exactly what we needed on Good 834 00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:23,468 Speaker 1: Morning Football. Ala Lazard, thank you so much. Good best