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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are, well, here some

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Speaker 1: of us are. Yeah, inside the SWBC podcast studio on

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Speaker 1: Draft Day, two thousand and twenty two. It's one of

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Speaker 1: your earliest pregame shows of the day. There have been

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Speaker 1: others that have already started. I am sure, but we

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Speaker 1: are here to preview tonight's draft and it should be

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Speaker 1: a very interesting day and a very interesting weekend, and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what unfolds. Mickey Spagnola. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody keeps asking me, so you're going to Vegas for

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Speaker 1: the Draft. It's like, no, we don't need to go

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. You got it happens right here at the

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Speaker 1: Star And by the way, even bigger happenings outside with

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Speaker 1: the draft party going on. I when I came in today,

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Speaker 1: I walked by the plaza and uh, it's getting set

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Speaker 1: up for the party. So the draft party, I think

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Speaker 1: starts at six o'clock something like that. It looks like

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Speaker 1: we've got good weather for it. Yeah, it was supposed

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Speaker 1: to rain this morning, but the rest of the day

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear, So yeah, it would be a good day.

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Speaker 1: And God built. As I wrote in my mix SHOT's

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Speaker 1: column for last night, thank God this draft is here.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like it's been going on forever, ever

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Speaker 1: since they lost on what was it, January sixteenth. That's right,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking draft, you know, at night. Started by

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Speaker 1: that way, yep. And for a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that started before the season because they like

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Speaker 1: to talk draft. I'll see all year long, and I'll

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Speaker 1: plug this right off the top at eleven o'clock on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night on CBS eleven and other affiliates across the

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Speaker 1: Great Southwest and beyond. The Dallas Cowboys Draft Special will

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Speaker 1: chronicle the lead up to the draft, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: there's some great exclusive behind the scenes footage and of

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Speaker 1: meetings here at the Star, of coaches and scouts talking

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Speaker 1: about players and stuff leading up to it, gone the

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Speaker 1: road with scouts, Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Days and so forth,

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Speaker 1: and so that will be and of course a recap

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Speaker 1: of the draft as well, but the hour long show,

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Speaker 1: the hour long Draft Special, the annual Cowboys Draft Special,

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Speaker 1: has some pretty good stuff behind the scenes of just

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Speaker 1: what all goes into this month long process, and of

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Speaker 1: course it's a year long process for all the scouts. Well,

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Speaker 1: they reveal what they were going to do before they

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Speaker 1: did it. Well, we'll have to see, We will have

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Speaker 1: to see. And speaking of undrafted guys, the Draft show,

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Speaker 1: the draft was never important. I hated. He wasn't worried.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't worried about the day of all days. I

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Speaker 1: decided to those priority free agents. You know, there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a bunch of priority free agents, and we're

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Speaker 1: our priority free agent has just arrived, and they'd probably

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Speaker 1: be more than normal with the amount of people in

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Speaker 1: the draft today. That's right. You know they tried to

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Speaker 1: talk about this as being like a bum draft. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that? Do you think it's because the focus

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Speaker 1: is on the first round when people are talking about

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Speaker 1: it being above draft, it's because you don't have the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks up and at the top of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not somebody that you just has not got to

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Speaker 1: have Clowney who you just know is going to have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful. Yeah, so you don't think any clowns are

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Speaker 1: uh T J. Watts out there? I mean or J. J.

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Speaker 1: there's none of those out there. To what you say,

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Speaker 1: j J. Watt. Yeah, No, I don't. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody you just got to have.

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Speaker 1: That's why we need to record this and uh and

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Speaker 1: it will be archived and we'll go back five years

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Speaker 1: from now. Oh no, we didn't. There's nobody in this.

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Speaker 1: We'll just go back to seventeen years from now when

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Speaker 1: we had it right. And two, Thibodeau is a Pro Bowl, right,

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Speaker 1: sure there's some guys that the teams look at right

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Speaker 1: That that's what happens when you're picking twenty fourth. Instead

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Speaker 1: of language, we're looking at here. You don't like anything? Nope, nope, check, nope,

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Speaker 1: all right, So what position would you trade? Oh, it

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Speaker 1: would have to be a offensive tackle, knowing the needs

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Speaker 1: rushers if they fell would you be interested in? Well, Tibodaux, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Would you like? You can do all three? And that's

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Speaker 1: why a talent like that. When I saw, yeah he's

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Speaker 1: it was too fast. You know what he reminds me of.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me of Bob Hayes. Oh no, no, man,

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Speaker 1: The thing that's interesting about him is that he was

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Speaker 1: all right, that's the Wow, what talent that guy is? Well,

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Speaker 1: understanding is that they did a recheck on him, yea,

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Speaker 1: and all the teams weren't on the virtual recheck, but

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Speaker 1: your speculation, speculation, well you called the ceede lamb draft,

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Speaker 1: you always say no brainer. You like them, But who thought?

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Speaker 1: Who thought he was going to fall to seventeen? Right?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. Didn't they were going to fall, And they

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Speaker 1: end of Chase. Yeah that's right. So um, but again

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Speaker 1: on pop right, I mean because he had his surgery.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like Michael Gallup. I mean Gallup had

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Speaker 1: his surgery in February and he got hurt in the

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Speaker 1: National Championship game. Right, So he's a month ahead of

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Speaker 1: semi final ahead. He said his rehab is even further

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Speaker 1: surprise if he were ready to start this. They're all

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Speaker 1: to be top. It's nine to twelve months. What's this

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Speaker 1: mean is tall? Well, I just happened to have a

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Speaker 1: all the details. We've got a lot of lean, diminutive

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Speaker 1: And that is a possibility. You know, everyone doesn't have

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Speaker 1: banking on that, right. Can Dante Foller returned to what

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and does that affect you know? Jerry

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Speaker 1: has always been one that he listens to um the

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Speaker 1: to heart. As he makes this, I would imagine they've

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Speaker 1: already had their say right and um, and they've gone

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Speaker 1: through this, and I would imagine they have a game plan,

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Speaker 1: in here. We're thinking about taking an offensive which one

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Speaker 1: do you? They know? I think some of that goes

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Speaker 1: on if they're if they're choosing between an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: and a wide receiver where but they've gone over that,

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Speaker 1: they've gone over it, but they just they'll just re

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Speaker 1: re go over it. Yeah. When we say Jerry, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's Jerry still that guy that's you know,

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Speaker 1: overriding no draft picks and things of that nature. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I think to his credit, I think I think he

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Speaker 1: the years, and especially maybe more so recent years, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, he really uh takes the heart,

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Speaker 1: you know what the what the scouts and the coaches

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Speaker 1: say and and tries to make the prudent decision on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think he you know, he talked about it

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday because he said, you know, everybody writes this

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Speaker 1: and that, and the misconception is is, you know, when

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Speaker 1: say on it, and we think that right, that didn't

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Speaker 1: come out of no well you know what, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, we can go back to the nineties

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Speaker 1: and two thousand exactly then when that's the persona that

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Speaker 1: he put out there, so all of a sudden to say, well,

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Speaker 1: I think it started well, and I think it has

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Speaker 1: to do with the personality of the head coach right too,

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Speaker 1: and and the like for instance, parcels that he was

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Speaker 1: he had. He wanted to be a part of the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, right. Wade Phillips did not not soting. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like whatever they give me, that's fine. You know.

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett he had a hand in it. He was

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Speaker 1: big time, and it was in his It's in his blood,

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Speaker 1: you know, his dad being a scout. And Jimmy and

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Speaker 1: and I'll be going back to Jimmy um So and

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Speaker 1: Barry Berry was he was fine. He was fine. He's

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Speaker 1: a great evaluator or a talent, right say that man.

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Speaker 1: And and Wade was kind of oh sure it was.

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Speaker 1: Wade was kind of the same way. But I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought Jerry, you know, he kind of talked about

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Speaker 1: it and one of the things he pointed out and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good quote. He said that

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Speaker 1: if you give others credit, you can conquer the world.

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Speaker 1: And he said he had this little quote on his desk.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and and he sort of does. It's not like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we got to do you know, the story about Mansell

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Speaker 1: got exaggerated, right, Jerry had the card in his hand. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: the cards in New York getting right. Uh So that

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Um. And part of part of the job

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Speaker 1: of the guy who's making the decision is paying the check, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is to present all scenarios too. Yes, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: why at the last minute, while you're on the clock,

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Speaker 1: you might have the position coaches there, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: just and they do, they'll call the guy in before

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Speaker 1: they make it. Okay, you can see here's where we're

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Speaker 1: going that you think, and and give me some more

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Speaker 1: information on him. Will They do a very good job

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Speaker 1: of listening to Will McClay um and so, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think that that just we heard much from Will. Ah,

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Speaker 1: he's done a couple of interviews, not many. We don't

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Speaker 1: usually hear much from Will. Yeah in the house, and

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Speaker 1: he would rather it that way. But he has, but

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Speaker 1: he has, but he has a big say, I mean

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Speaker 1: he has a big right, Yes, yes, and so and

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Speaker 1: and even you know people, and Jerry reminded everybody that

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Speaker 1: you know, Steven's been doing this for thirty three years.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, Steve learned something along the way.

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Speaker 1: You know, all all that Stevens there's no football guys,

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Speaker 1: Stevens print is on. Yeah, a lot of a lot.

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Speaker 1: This is a lot of the decisions on the cap too.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't get any blame, right, I think he

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Speaker 1: liked it like that. Yeah, he's fine with not getting

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Speaker 1: credit because he don't get credit, you know. Yeah, what

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00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: is the overriding most important thing that needs to happen

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Speaker 1: with the twenty fourth pick in the first round. It's

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Speaker 1: like I said, it needs to be a walk in starter, okay,

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Speaker 1: day one, and so it doesn't matter what position. It

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Speaker 1: needs to be a walk in starter. Yes, I agree

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Speaker 1: with that because, like you can, there's so many mock

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Speaker 1: drafts saying Zion Johnson or Kenyan Green offensive guard. And

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Speaker 1: but if there is a player that you've got ranked higher,

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Speaker 1: substantially higher than either one of those guys who can

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Speaker 1: come in and be a walk in starter for you.

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Speaker 1: Get them. Get them because there are guards that you

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Speaker 1: can get in the second, third, fourth round who can

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Speaker 1: who can also actually come in and be a walk

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Speaker 1: in starter for you, But you don't want to draft

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Speaker 1: him in the first round. I take him in the

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Speaker 1: best because I can get a story. You got the

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Speaker 1: guy that come in at guard that could be in

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Speaker 1: an immediate starter if and and and. If he's in

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Speaker 1: the first round, you're like, ah, never mind, I gave you.

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Speaker 1: But if he's in the second round, yeah, I'll take it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you the two I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the two reasons why. Okay, Number one, you always

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Speaker 1: follow the money, right, guards are probably eighth in line

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Speaker 1: for how much they get paid around the league. And secondly,

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Speaker 1: in the history of the Dallas Cowboys, in the first round,

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Speaker 1: they've taken two guards two John Niland and Zach Martin

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Speaker 1: in the first round turned up and they all turned

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Speaker 1: out pretty good. What does that mean? My point is

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Speaker 1: they haven't imagine if they would have taken more guards. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's my point. They won five Super Bowls just kind

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Speaker 1: of finding a guard. Right, go ask Nate Newton, right, see,

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Speaker 1: I mean you found one. He was a USFL. Not

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them out there. It's not a

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Speaker 1: bunch of Nate Newtons out there, right, Okay, So you

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00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: can't just act like you can just find them anyway

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at off hanging fruit. But when you're

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Speaker 1: looking for offensive lineman, what's your priority tackle? What's the

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Speaker 1: next priority center? Okay? The rest of you guys are guards. See,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I thought

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Speaker 1: guards were respected. Well, I was putting it just got

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Speaker 1: talking about the money situation. So now you're getting down

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Speaker 1: off into the dB status. So if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: the defensive back, they don't pay much for dB. All

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Speaker 1: the cornerbacks, dude, the cornerbacks, dude. So if you got

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Speaker 1: safety out there who's a stud, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: draft him in the first round because he better be

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Speaker 1: a real stud. Who's out there like that? Um? The

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Speaker 1: safety from Notre Dame, Kyle Hamilton, Nick Cross is a

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Speaker 1: real stud. Come in and start right, Come in and start, yes,

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Speaker 1: come in Cross Crosses like second third. He's he's projected

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Speaker 1: as a second round, second, second to third round and

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Speaker 1: can still come in and start. In my opinion, he

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Speaker 1: could challenge for it, in my opinion, and I think

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Speaker 1: the second guy's got a challenge for a starting job.

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Speaker 1: So if so, you wouldn't take the first round. Probably

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Speaker 1: not unless it's the when you when you start talking

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Speaker 1: about trends, I trans can kiss my button. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, don't get you a damn, but the guy's

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Speaker 1: got to be really special to do that, right, true,

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Speaker 1: And if you follow the money at safety, unfortunately it's

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Speaker 1: not that high. The other thing they need is a kicker.

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Speaker 1: No fifth wound, fifth round, that's as high as we go.

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Speaker 1: So so kickers. So one of those kicker in the

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Speaker 1: third round. I mean, you know, you know this guy's

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Speaker 1: a stud. You know. Somebody asked me that had the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys ever h drafted a kicker, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: Nick Folk beeler. And then I started going through all

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Speaker 1: the drafts they've drafted over the years, like nine kickers.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys you never heard of the Coos,

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Speaker 1: they never became anything Cowboys. But yeah, they've drafted kickers

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Speaker 1: um back in the day, like in the in the sixties, seventies, seventies,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of years they drafted him one after another,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years were you know, Gil probably thought

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Speaker 1: they were great athletes and they could come in and

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Speaker 1: do something that Max maxin day Has, Do you remember him?

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Speaker 1: I believe that was eighty six. That was the bounty

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Speaker 1: on the That was the bounty on Days right, it

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Speaker 1: was different, it was it was m Louis Louise Louise, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that was my teammate. They were the Kickings

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Speaker 1: and day Hasses, like the flying little Max and day

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Speaker 1: Has was a fourth round pick. Yes, yes, holy was

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Speaker 1: he the highest well in eighty six though there was

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Speaker 1: still he was one hundredth pick in the draft. There

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Speaker 1: was twelve picks, right, they hadn't they've gone twelve round

632
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Speaker 1: twelve rounds. Yeah, well that's what I meant. Yeah, didn't

633
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: come out the way four fourth round, one hundredth pick

634
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: in the draft was magazine day Hoss kicker. Wow, No

635
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: wonder we fell on hard times there in the late eighties.

636
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: No talent in the draft obviously, you know, no talent

637
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: in the draft. So I'm just wondering at eighty sixth

638
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: draft was Mike Schirard in the first round, Darryl clack

639
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: in the second, Mark Whylan third, Maxi Das and the

640
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: fourth Thornton Chandler. Is he called me? He just called

641
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: me this morning. Yes, he did. Garth Jacks in the

642
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: eleventh round. Crazy turned into a great country western singer. Yeah,

643
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: all right, Garth Jackson, mate, he made he made his

644
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Uh that's a joe. That's awful. That's why I was

645
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: how didn't even want to get him credit for he

646
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: made his name on the replacement team Garth Jacks, Yes,

647
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: it did. I think he ended up going to the

648
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: come on was later on this by the way, speaking

649
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: of Garth Brooks, Uh, do you remember in the eighties

650
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: his concert at Texas Stadium when he went flying through

651
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: the I believe it was the nineties. It was in

652
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: the nineties. It was in the nineties, early nineties. Yeah,

653
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: early night. You remember that. Okay, were you there? I

654
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: was there, Yes, the rafters give us some great I

655
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: was hoping he was covering it. He's having a cancer.

656
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: This is a tie end to a T and T

657
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: s or is Maybe it's Globe I Field. I'm not sure.

658
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he won't be flying around this July thirtieth. July

659
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: thirtieth concert. Okay, we interviewed him. Uh, some of the

660
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: people at CBS eleven and reviewed him at leading up

661
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: to that a week or so ago, previewing this concert

662
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: and ticket sales and so forth, and so um. I

663
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: mentioned to Doug Dunbar, our anchor, I said that I

664
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: went to a concert Guarth Brooks. He was flying through

665
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: the air. It Texas Stadium whatever. And then Doug Dunbar says, well,

666
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Karen Border and I we did a live broadcast from

667
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: Texas Stadium when they blew up the place. Yeah. I

668
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: was there for that too, yeah, and that I said,

669
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: what TI, I don't know it was Texas Stadium was

670
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: the tie. I've been at Texas Stadium when they won

671
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: an NFC title. So then I re upped him. Well,

672
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, as a kid, I used to ride my

673
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: bike down to Texas Stadium when it was under construction.

674
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: So there I win. So anyway, all right, this is

675
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: what happens on draft day morning, when you're delirious from

676
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: filling up a big green notebook. All right, we continue

677
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: with more mix shots. In a moment before there was

678
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: a draft, you could size up a cowboy by three

679
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040
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680
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,520
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681
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682
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715
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Speaker 1: mick shot. Thanks to the Cowboys PR Department. Okay, since

716
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: twenty ten, Dallas has selected sixteen players that have gone

717
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: on to make at least one Pro Bowl, the most

718
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL over that span, second Kansas City in

719
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota with fifteen. How about that since win so that

720
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: would have been Dez right and um Also the Cowboys

721
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: pick spanning the previous nineteen drafts since twenty two thousand

722
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: and two, have been selected to eighty four Pro Bowls,

723
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: twenty eight different players, and that is twelve more than

724
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: any other team over that span. Kansas City second at

725
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: seventy two. You know, as we get more into you know,

726
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: present times, I wouldn't that might be based on popularity

727
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: more than but not not the pro not the all

728
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: pro thing. Yes, most all pro draft picks since twenty

729
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: ten Dallas nine, San Francisco seven, Kansas City, Minnesota, Pittsburgh,

730
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Rams and Ravens six. And the other thing that happens

731
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: on the Pro Bowl more recently is the opt outs

732
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl. And so there are more people

733
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl right than in years. But that

734
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: that applies for all the other teams too, That's right, right,

735
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. That's something to be thought of,

736
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: all right. That doesn't count like finding Tony Romo, although

737
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever got to he probably

738
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: went to a Pro Bowl. Yes, yeah, well, he was

739
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: always in line behind was draft police. Yeah. Four Pro

740
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: Bowls per tony okay, yep um. Ever, since you want

741
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: to do what you want to do, Yes, yes, I

742
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: got this uh from Yahoo. They had Remembering News and

743
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: radio executive Jerry Lopes. I don't know if you guys

744
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: ever had heard of the Sheridan family s H E

745
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: R I d A N. Black family that started their

746
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: own radio network, a Sheridan Broadcast, No, I s b N.

747
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: That's amazing to me because they gave me my first shot,

748
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I had and this stuff. No, not this crap,

749
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: my real job. No. They actually they had the Sheridan

750
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Broadcasting All American Bowl Game, which gave you know, black

751
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: college players like myself who didn't get drafted. We weren't

752
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: even highly thought of, so we were able to have

753
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: our own All Star game, All American Game in Jackson, Mississippi,

754
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. It was freezing out there in January or something,

755
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: and I recalled there were fifteen hundred people in the stands,

756
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred people in Jackson Stadium, Jackson Memorial Stadium,

757
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi Memorial status. And so went from there. They had

758
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: all kinds of all American teams. They had guys like

759
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Doug Williams and James Shaq Harris who were tolding the

760
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, the torch for to make sure that people

761
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: understood how important they were for HBCU players. So this

762
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: man has died at the age of seventy two of

763
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: natural causes, but he was extremely instrumental in my development

764
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: as a person as well. Um, we had one event

765
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: where the remember the Potomac, the planes crashed into the

766
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Potomac at that time. Well, it held up of course,

767
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: it was tragedy, of course, but it also held up

768
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: traffic to where airline traffic to where the MC for

769
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: the event couldn't make it. So here I am just

770
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: after the San Francisco game, you know, the catch game,

771
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and I had to go there and fill in as

772
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: an MC because the other guys couldn't make it because

773
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: the crash caused. And I met a guy there name

774
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: Armstrong Williams. I don't know if you guys ever heard

775
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: of him. He's like a right wing black guy who

776
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: is still to this day is is extremely popular on

777
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: the right side. Uh, And I just it was just

778
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: a y. It was a great development for me. Because

779
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: I had to be the MC and Armstrong Williams. I

780
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: had never done that crap before twenty four years old

781
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: BNMC for this inventiment. I don't even know these people.

782
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: It gets invited me and so I'm strong. Williams wrote out, uh,

783
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: just some notes for me, a scripts, a little script

784
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: because he could see me sitting up sweating bullets. So

785
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: he helped me out. Jerry Lops also helped me out.

786
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: And I did a great job. I came up and

787
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: first thing they said, it was a tell a joke,

788
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: so well out there, and I told a joke and

789
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: it went well and from then on, I was, you know,

790
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: flying on through. So it was just a good a

791
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: good development for me as a person. Of course, they

792
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: helped me out in my career, uh in my college career,

793
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: and they helped out many other HBCU players to get

794
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: that Sheridan Broadcasting All American game. Now it has morphed

795
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: into the HBCU a Black College Hall of Fame game

796
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: and Hall of Fame awards as well. So what we

797
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: have is uh them starting something with the American Urban

798
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Once they started that, we kind of morphed

799
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: into what we have now to where we're still noticing

800
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: and you know players that you know from HBCUs that

801
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: don't necessarily get the coverage that the PW eyes get.

802
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: So now I just had to mention that Jerry Lows

803
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: is a good guy at seventy two years old, that

804
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: the natural causes, great guy, fought for a lot of

805
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: black journalists out there, going all the way up to

806
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: the White House. We just did a great job. He

807
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: did a great job, and he influenced so many people.

808
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: So just sad to see him go and just had

809
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: to remember all the things that Sheridan family did for us,

810
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: and also Jerry Lows, he did a great job. He

811
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: did a great job for a lot of people. All right,

812
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: the American Urban Radio Network, you are in the nation's

813
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: only African American owned and controlled radio network for many years.

814
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: It's right Sheridan Sheridan Broadcasting. So thanks to Bill Jones,

815
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: and we talked about it last Friday. He mentioned a

816
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: guy and I went back and looked at his highlight

817
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: films and I'm all in on Christian Watson. There you go,

818
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: Christian Watson. Remember we talked about him that he was

819
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: six to four and run four what was it? A

820
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: four three six, right, someone listened to me, Well, how

821
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: could you not listen to that? I went I went

822
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: back and looked at that, and it left my jaw dropping.

823
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: How he was running by people, not people that people

824
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: that had an angle on him. He was running by

825
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: people that were side by side, and he just split

826
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: them and went right down the middle past them all

827
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: and they were losing ground as he was getting closer

828
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: to the goal line. Okay, so where do you want

829
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: to draft him? I'd like to use my second round

830
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: on him. But you know what, I just saw a

831
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: mock draft that had him in the first that's right.

832
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: So would you take him at twenty four? Yes? I

833
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: would totally would. Hallelujah, he's my guy all along. Oh man, finally, finally,

834
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: and I don't care that he was playing FCS or

835
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is, right right, FCS North Dakota State. I

836
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: go back, I go back to two thousand and eight.

837
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy reminds me of Jordy Nelson. Yeah, okay,

838
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: I go back to two thousand and eight and the

839
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys had two first round draft picks, had a great

840
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: need for a cornerback in or running back. Took Mike

841
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Jenkins took Felix Jones, Jordy Nelson went early second round

842
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. And what happened that year? Okay,

843
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in two thousand and eight, they get to

844
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: mid season and they were they needed a wide receiver

845
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: so badly that they traded at midseason for Roy Williams,

846
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: giving up the two thousand and nine first round draft pick.

847
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: And how awful was the two thousand nine draft, as

848
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: it turned out, for the Cowboys drafted eleven guys and

849
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: only one of them they could turn out to anything,

850
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: be anything, John Phillips, a tight end river in the

851
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: fifth round or whatever. All right, but the point being, Okay,

852
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: in April, we didn't think we really needed a wide receiver,

853
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: and then six months later, lo and behold, we needed

854
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: a wide receiver so badly that we gave up a

855
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: first round pick the next year to do it. You know,

856
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: and obviously the team needs a wide receiver right now.

857
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: But it's a great illustration, I think. And by the way,

858
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, had the Cowboys had that

859
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, you know who they could have

860
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: drafted for Boyd Phillips defense Clay Matthews. Yeah, I was

861
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna say not James Williams. H Clay Matthews, who with

862
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips history in Houston, he would have been he

863
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: would have that would have been one pick he would

864
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: have been pounded the table for. And of course who

865
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 1: got Clay Matthews. It was the Packers. Packers were playing

866
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl what the next year. And this

867
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: guy can return kicks too, by the way, even though

868
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: he's six, and so could Jordy Nelson. Yeah, so Clay Matthews,

869
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Yeah, right, so you're on board. That's

870
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: a good deal because once again, I love these little,

871
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: fast guys, but we have to get six four. We

872
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: need more physical wide receiver and that's what it's getting to.

873
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: You've got the Tiwick Hills, of course, and we've still got,

874
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, some of the smaller receivers. But when you

875
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: start talking about a big receiver that can make an

876
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: impact getting off the line of scrambles, he will. He

877
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: won't always be open, but he will always have a

878
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: chance to catch the ball. That's Drake London too, the

879
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: USC guy. Because if you throw it up yeah I

880
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: saw that too. Yeah, if you throw it up, he

881
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: might be might be open. Right, That's my point. The

882
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: other the other thing I noticed has taken place right

883
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: now is everybody's picking up there uh or not everybody

884
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: not I think maybe ten so far picking up their

885
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: fifth year option on the first round picks from twenty nineteen.

886
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: And I was going, oh, what did Oh they didn't

887
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: have a draft choice in twenty nineteen because they gave

888
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: it up for Maury Cooper. Well, they didn't get five

889
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: years out of that first round pick. They got three

890
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, at a high cost. Right, and

891
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and so you your deal with first round picks. You

892
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: want to get five years. Uh and and they didn't

893
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: get it because they had to. They gave up the pick.

894
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: And what was minute mid season twenty eighteen? Right, Um,

895
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: still was a good sign for us? No, no, it was.

896
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: But you would you would like that time? Right? No? No,

897
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: it did. It saved the season. But if you would

898
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: have drafted Juju Smith Schuster had that year, then in

899
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: twenty seventy you might not have had Yeah, you might not,

900
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: you might not. Yeah. So anyway, I'm just gonna throw

901
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: out Christian well the well, the good thing about this

902
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: draft is it's obvious the team has needs across the board,

903
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: and so there are no disguised needs on this team

904
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: right now. You know, we don't have that luxury at

905
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: this point, and that's because there had it's been it's

906
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: been different the this off season as far as the

907
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: free agent signings, the lack of free agent signings the

908
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys have made. Now, that doesn't mean, as Stephen Jones

909
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: has been quick to point out in every press briefing

910
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: he's had, that free agency isn't over and so it's

911
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: the way it's played out in free agency. I'll just

912
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: take the offensive line. There are ten offensive guards and

913
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: ten offensive tackles who haven't found jobs, who are veteran

914
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: free agents out there right now. Who started. I'm sorry,

915
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm not they started not The second team is span

916
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: see where you hit. Give you some names because I

917
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: did write five of them down, okay, and I don't

918
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: know if they were listed in this list in order.

919
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: H Eric Flowers, former first round draft picker and he

920
00:55:52,760 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: flamed out, Trey Hopkins trades, uh Laurence Druvenay Tardiff, and

921
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Quintin Spain who started for the Cincinnati Bengals and they

922
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: didn't want them back. You know, the super Bow because

923
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: you say it in their kind of cheeky manner. That

924
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: started started. I wouldn't know if they're ever not ever

925
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: started for the Cincinnati Bengay. You know how bad the Benga. Well,

926
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: their offensive line. They made it to the super Bowl

927
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: by some damn miracle with that offensive line. If you

928
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: had those that offensive line and you went to the

929
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you'd be fine, right, that's you should be.

930
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: And they and they were restructuring the whole dude, that's right,

931
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: that's right. They're probably taken. They are they listed to

932
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman, all right, they are ill. I

933
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: bet they'll take a guard too. Oh they have to.

934
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: Could Quin Spain was their start. They would take a

935
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: guard in the first round. But there are you're right there.

936
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: You can bring in a veteran guy and you probably

937
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: can get them for one year and whatever. I go

938
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: to Daryl Williams is one started for Buffalo last year.

939
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: Seventeen starts out of Lake Dallas. There's one for you

940
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: right there that you didn't mention. I guess he because

941
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: he was looking at pessimism. Oh, he probably was down

942
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: farther on the list. They called it up and you

943
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: got JC Treader, who as a history with this coaching staff.

944
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: Who's heard I read capped casualty in Cleveland. They had

945
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: an injury issue. Yes, he does sixteen games last year,

946
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't practice hardly all season because of

947
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: his injury. About you want Zack Martin's brother guard, He's available,

948
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Nick Martin? Is he really? Yep? No? Is he really? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

949
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: I thought he played it here. He was the second

950
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Texans in twenty sixteen. Oh

951
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't I know that? Ye started started sixty two games

952
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: there see. And that goes to my premise on the guard.

953
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: The guard. The guard's got to be able to play tackle,

954
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: and if you draft a center, he has to play guard?

955
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: How to do both? So I need some and and

956
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and actually Mike pointed it out about position flex. It's

957
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: very important. He was talking about defensive lineman, like can

958
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: you play the three technique or the one technique at

959
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: defensive tackle? You want guys to do both. And he's

960
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: always talked about position flex. So I think that's important

961
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Okay, uh, final minute here, our

962
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: pick to click Kristen Watson Penny. So yeah, all right,

963
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: So at twenty four, let's say the Cowboys stay at

964
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: twenty four. Who are you hoping the Cowboys pick at

965
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: twenty four? Who is your pick to click? I'm taking

966
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Christian Watson. I'm taking that's my guy, my guy up

967
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: with somebody else. It wasn't until the last few minutes

968
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: you decided he was at first, the last few minutes.

969
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: It was the next day when I looked him up

970
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: and watched, I can't take my guy. Who's your guy, Christian?

971
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Watch who you don't know who's available? Um, I'll take

972
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: I'll take a Larvae Who is he wide receiver of house? Nice? Nice?

973
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: And he can It looked like he can play all

974
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: three positions. And if he's gone, well he didn't ask

975
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: me that. Yeah, man, come on, what are we doing?

976
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Let me look at my not going to say a

977
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: guard there's no no, no no. If if it's a guard's,

978
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: it's got to be Zion. I like. I like Kenyan Green,

979
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green. I've read things about his knees. Knee, Yeah,

980
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: and it's something we'll get him in the second round.

981
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: And well maybe, but you you, I think the concern

982
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: is you're not gonna get five years. You might not

983
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: get five years out of him. How many years you

984
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: get out of round Leary Blatin literally wasn't drafted right

985
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: and but he was your starting guard. But he ended up.

986
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: But in the end his knee did give out. Not here,

987
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: not here, fine here on the way. So in the end,

988
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: his knee gave out. Everyone goes out. Remember Larry was

989
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: projected as a first round draft. Yes, he was well,

990
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: and he fell right out of the draft, and he

991
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: fell right into the starting line up for the greatest,

992
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: the greatest offensive line ever assembled in twenty sixty. We

993
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: don't care if his knee gives out in Denver. But

994
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't a first round pick. You can't, as it

995
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: turns out, you can't. But as it turns out, if

996
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: you went back and redrafted and looked at their careers,

997
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: you was Ronald Learry. That's a good pick in twenty

998
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: four the first round. Yeah, we only need four or

999
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: five years out of it. If you were going to

1000
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: take that chance, yeah right, yeah, And so yeah, I'm

1001
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: going for the small school guys man. Guy, dude, he's

1002
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: my guy, Zion Johnson. I wouldn't because I penny he'll

1003
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: be gone. You got a trade up for him? Yeah,

1004
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, he can play center or guard and maybe

1005
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: tackle who knows. Okay, so that would be if if

1006
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: they were at that spot the wide receivers were we're

1007
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: wiped out. Defensive ends of any note were wiped out.

1008
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm on the record. I'll trust to kidd in Green. Okay,

1009
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: yea if I'm going guard, but Christian Watson otherwise, all right,

1010
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: that does it? What we're done already, We're not done.

1011
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: The day is just beginning. It has that's right, yeah, Okay,

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1013
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1014
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1015
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