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Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia. Brian brought us Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome this morning to our version
Speaker 2: of the Break. Brian brought us here with uh Patrick
Speaker 2: Walker today and Nick Harris. As you notice no Amber
Speaker 2: Garcia or no Derek Eagleton changed. So they what they
Speaker 2: did is they put football guys together today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, let's let's.
Speaker 2: Get all the football guys together and try and figure
Speaker 2: this thing out. How you Jim doing today? Everybody good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. You know, it's been a while, I think,
Speaker 2: especially in the new studio getting a host. No Derek
Speaker 2: last night. Derek's one of these guys will ask you
Speaker 2: to host, like he'll call you like at eleven thirty
Speaker 2: at night, you know and say hey.
Speaker 6: That's show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you for answering the text. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Patrick is Patrick and I are. We're married
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Speaker 2: bat signal and then showing up for showing up for
Speaker 2: work today. But we should have a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with this crew. Kind of want to do a couple
Speaker 2: of things. If I could today, guys, if I could
Speaker 2: get these brand new computers we have working here. It's
Speaker 2: got to be gotta be a little bit careful. But
Speaker 2: in the uh, I want to I want to dive
Speaker 2: into this giants matchup a little bit and get some
Speaker 2: of your thoughts on some things that maybe maybe we
Speaker 2: haven't talked about. Is there is there something in your
Speaker 2: mind and about Listen, we're focusing on this, but maybe
Speaker 2: we need to focus a little bit more on that.
Speaker 2: We'll do that in the first segment here today. Second segment,
Speaker 2: I like to take the fans questions. This is something
Speaker 2: that we do when I'm on one O five to
Speaker 2: three the fan Yeah, and uh, you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to, you want to text in your questions, we will.
Speaker 2: We will read them in the second half and I'll
Speaker 2: get my experts here to answer those questions for you.
Speaker 6: Experts.
Speaker 2: If you don't if you don't like their answers, don't
Speaker 2: blame me. You could blame them, but they're used to that, right,
Speaker 2: We're all used to getting blamed for this stuff. And
Speaker 2: then in the third seving, I do I have some
Speaker 2: questions for myself and it's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: kind of on the Friday segment that we do usually
Speaker 2: Amberg Garcia comes up with a really kind of a
Speaker 2: fun segment on the final, uh, final segment of the
Speaker 2: day of the show, and uh, and then we'll get
Speaker 2: our game predictions. By the way, you guys hate game predictions.
Speaker 4: It's fun. I mean it makes you think, and I
Speaker 4: always love to think. I love things that make me think.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you're never right though, like always trying to
Speaker 7: predict the score, like it's it's always just.
Speaker 4: Like I nailed it once. I hit the head once
Speaker 4: this season. But I mean, it'll be one out of
Speaker 4: what was that.
Speaker 6: Two three games?
Speaker 7: Was it Rams?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can't remember what.
Speaker 6: That was A score of Gami that would be really impressed.
Speaker 4: It was No, it wasn't It wasn't Rams. Okay, it
Speaker 4: was Charge It was Chargers twenty seventeen. I Chargers twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: But I mean that's like you said, it's one out
Speaker 4: of like seventeen regular season games, and I'll never be
Speaker 4: able to predict the playoff game because they never go
Speaker 4: the way I wanted.
Speaker 8: To never do.
Speaker 2: One thing is, uh, have you uh have you had
Speaker 2: the experience yet of uh picking against them and then
Speaker 2: getting on the plane and going through the front of
Speaker 2: the plane with the coaches and all that sitting there
Speaker 2: and everybody, you know, because everybody acts like they don't
Speaker 2: listen and they don't hear what you're saying. That they
Speaker 2: know every damn word you're saying today, last every word.
Speaker 4: First game, first game against Philadelphia, which was in Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: I picked against them, and I picked Philly to win,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately I was right Philly, yeah, on the win.
Speaker 3: So thankfully didn't.
Speaker 4: Get any any flack or side eyes going on into
Speaker 4: the flight or coming off of the flight.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you got a job to do.
Speaker 4: You got a job, and they're not going to go
Speaker 4: seventeen to know, the losses are going to come from somewhere.
Speaker 4: You just got to pick and choose which ones you
Speaker 4: really think they're going to take that on that yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, typically just get on the plane, put the blinders
Speaker 6: on them there, straight.
Speaker 4: Straight to the the water what's on the entertainment. Keep focusing.
Speaker 2: That's where being Hellman always got in trouble. We'd get
Speaker 2: on the plane, I'd follow him in and and we
Speaker 2: go through that section, and Garrett and all those coaches
Speaker 2: be looking at us like, Okay, I saw you picked,
Speaker 2: you picked this week. And then it was really like
Speaker 2: and then you would get back on the plane coming
Speaker 2: home and say you were right. Then that's where nobody
Speaker 2: really kind of you just kind of took your tie
Speaker 2: and then did it and walk.
Speaker 6: Your That's where you're trying to make That's like I
Speaker 6: told you so be.
Speaker 4: That you keep that keep that Internet.
Speaker 2: That is the truth. Okay, guys, we've we've talked about that.
Speaker 2: The Giants are a team that's they're wounded in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. They've struggled at quarterback, They've dealt with
Speaker 2: various injuries along the offensive line. Their defense is very
Speaker 2: blitz happy. We've talked about all those things. Is there
Speaker 2: something about this matchup that you're looking at like, listen,
Speaker 2: I think there's a storyline here and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna kind of follow it. Is there something that
Speaker 2: you're just you're just kind of well, maybe I could.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping an eye on this because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day on Sunday, I'm gonna write about this.
Speaker 2: There's something that you got together.
Speaker 6: There are a couple of things.
Speaker 7: I'm only gonna steal one because I feel like you
Speaker 7: might have another one. I'm looking at Brandon Cooks. We
Speaker 7: look at this secondary for the Giants this weekend, and
Speaker 7: not only are they young inexperienced, they run more man
Speaker 7: coverage than anybody in the entire NFL. So there should
Speaker 7: be an opportunity for a speed weapon like Brandon Cooks
Speaker 7: to be able to get over the top of this defense.
Speaker 7: You know, I would love to see a triple yard
Speaker 7: day from him. I think that would be huge. We
Speaker 7: actually met a bed this morning, me and Isaiah stand back.
Speaker 7: I took the under just because I haven't seen it
Speaker 7: so far this season, and he took the over. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I think there's a really good opportunity here for Dak
Speaker 7: Prescott and Brandon Cooks to find some symmetry, and I
Speaker 7: hope I can see it. The thing with Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 7: that's just been so awesome in these last three games
Speaker 7: is the timing. And I know timing takes a really
Speaker 7: long time, and it's something that will take years to build,
Speaker 7: but when you have a veteran like Brandon Cooks, that
Speaker 7: process can be expedited because he's played with so many
Speaker 7: different quarterbacks, He's played with this very exact offensive system
Speaker 7: multiple times going back to his college days at Oregon State.
Speaker 7: Even there should be opportunities for him to take advantage
Speaker 7: of this Giant's defense. And that's the biggest thing I'm
Speaker 7: looking at going in a Sunday.
Speaker 4: For me, I'm going to look at the injury situation
Speaker 4: to Cavante Turpin. We'll see what the injury report looks
Speaker 4: like today on Friday, but he's trending toward not playing
Speaker 4: against the Giants. So for me, that throws duce fond
Speaker 4: right into the mix. For me, I think this is
Speaker 4: going to be if Turpin is held out or you know,
Speaker 4: even if he's not held out, induce is not on
Speaker 4: the inactive's list for insurance purposes. I think this is
Speaker 4: a good opportunity for us to see not only as
Speaker 4: a return of what duce fall can bring to the table,
Speaker 4: maybe you know, earn himself the right to escape the
Speaker 4: Enactors for the rest of the season, but offensively as
Speaker 4: well some of those turping packages, how does that mix out?
Speaker 4: As far as you know, where do you want to
Speaker 4: put duce, how do you use Deuce in that capacity?
Speaker 4: I think some of those reps offensively were probably default
Speaker 4: to Brandon Cooks in this game to try to get
Speaker 4: him going. But as far as versatility in the backfield,
Speaker 4: maybe this is a game when Turpin is out, maybe
Speaker 4: it's du'ce fall on a jet sweep or something like that.
Speaker 4: So be real interested to see if Turpin doesn't go
Speaker 4: exactly how they utilize duce vall, because they've not been
Speaker 4: able to kind of figure that out just yet, which
Speaker 4: is why he's been enacted the past several games.
Speaker 2: Patrick, I know you always do a great job of
Speaker 2: when we have our show with the break and we
Speaker 2: start off with we always do the injury things. Is
Speaker 2: there some things you want to update about any injuries
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. The injury that I was worried
Speaker 2: about was the bell injury right, and that was the
Speaker 2: calf right, and I reached out to somebody about that.
Speaker 2: But if you want to go ahead and kind of
Speaker 2: run through what you got on your injuries.
Speaker 4: Out, So there were no changes on yesterday's injury report
Speaker 4: over Wednesdays. So you're still looking at Marquise Bell limited
Speaker 4: with the calf, as you mentioned, Osa still limited with
Speaker 4: the hamstring. Something else to keep an eye on. Tyrone
Speaker 4: Smith still battling the illness. Did not participate, but we've
Speaker 4: talked about that yesterday. Sounds like that's just going to
Speaker 4: be the plan for him and Cavante Turpin, like we're
Speaker 4: talking about right now. He was d and P, he
Speaker 4: was outside of pads yesterday. He's trending toward not playing
Speaker 4: barring a surprise. But Marquise Bell and OsO Diggi Zoo,
Speaker 4: those are the ones that you kind of want to
Speaker 4: keep an eye on because although they've practiced and they've
Speaker 4: not been D and P yet this this week, obviously
Speaker 4: there's something nagging them there that could kind of affect
Speaker 4: their play against the New York Giants. So what are
Speaker 4: you hearing, Brian?
Speaker 2: As far as the opstation, the one that I was
Speaker 2: really really concerned about was the Bell one, and talking
Speaker 2: to some people in the organization about that. He's trending,
Speaker 2: as you would say, in the right way. As far
Speaker 2: as and the Cowboys have had some bad luck with
Speaker 2: these calf injuries and stuff like that. I mean, you
Speaker 2: always worry about.
Speaker 6: It, Donovan to Star trending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it seems like, oh no, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. And the next thing, you know, these guys
Speaker 2: are out. You know, they missed entire training camps and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But I was hearing from Bell that
Speaker 2: actually that he had had a good day yesterday and
Speaker 2: they're they're progressing in the way that maybe uh that
Speaker 2: that that that will get him to the game on
Speaker 2: on Sunday, because I think I can't I can't imagine
Speaker 2: them being as light as they are at linebacker and
Speaker 2: him not being able to play. Yeah. Yeah, it gets
Speaker 2: Barkley and all that talk about him. You know, the
Speaker 2: rookie class has struggled with uh, you know, with with
Speaker 2: the contributions to you know, and and and that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We always we love the way the Cowboys draft, but
Speaker 2: Butter is Butter.
Speaker 6: I forget he's a rookie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the but the rookie class, you know, we're
Speaker 2: we're halfway finished the year and it's kind of is
Speaker 2: what it is right now. But talk about guys like
Speaker 2: with with what you said with Bell and and what
Speaker 2: your expectations for him were, uh at training camp to
Speaker 2: where he is right now for for your your team.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's being able to step into that second level.
Speaker 7: I think if you had told me even in the
Speaker 7: second week of training camp, Hey, he's going to be
Speaker 7: your starting linebacker for a majority of the season and
Speaker 7: he's going to fill in and.
Speaker 6: Do a great job, and be like, all right, so
Speaker 6: what else are you smoking?
Speaker 7: Right? Yeah, exactly, And so you know what he's been
Speaker 7: able to do as an undersized linebacker and and come
Speaker 7: in and fill these running holes. He's done such a
Speaker 7: great job with it. I mean, he's he's showing a
Speaker 7: lot of a lot of experience in that way. And
Speaker 7: you know, we were able to talk to him going
Speaker 7: into his first start as as a linebacker and just
Speaker 7: being able to talk about that that transition, and he
Speaker 7: was like, I actually did this at Florida A and
Speaker 7: M I had to step in and do this a
Speaker 7: few times. And whenever dan Quinn brought me in for
Speaker 7: the first time after I got signed, he pointed to
Speaker 7: that and he's like, that's that's the reason you're here.
Speaker 7: So they're able to manifest that and only his second season,
Speaker 7: you know, an undrafted free agent not playing like one.
Speaker 6: And I think if we if we're.
Speaker 7: Highlighting our expectations from training camp in this sense, I
Speaker 7: also want to highlight one Yea Thomas in that same expay,
Speaker 7: just because he's been able to show a lot of
Speaker 7: similar things. I thought, Yeah, not necessarily as like a
Speaker 7: safety linebacker hybrid, but more so as a safety guy
Speaker 7: who has just been awesome in coverage whenever he has
Speaker 7: been on the field. For some reason, we haven't seen
Speaker 7: him the last couple of weeks, but whenever he is
Speaker 7: on the field, he's he's making an impact.
Speaker 4: The thing for me with Bell and both of those gentlemen,
Speaker 4: and great job on them kind of staying the course
Speaker 4: through the practice squad stint last year as a rookie,
Speaker 4: never dropping their head, never dropping their chin. They you know,
Speaker 4: just continue to work. But with Bell, the thing was
Speaker 4: last season he was being bred in the same lane
Speaker 4: as a Donovan Wilson, and with Donovan Wilson brings for
Speaker 4: dan Quinn, So going into year two, that was my expectation.
Speaker 4: But of course, then you know, you draft overshown and
Speaker 4: you create packages for overshowing, but then you lose overshown.
Speaker 4: But you don't want to lose those packages. So Marquise
Speaker 4: Bell dan Quinn taps into what he saw with him
Speaker 4: at Florida A and M. And to say that it's
Speaker 4: worked magnificently is a gross understatement.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's stepped up.
Speaker 4: He stepped up big, and it's wild to me to
Speaker 4: see players like that, because, let's be honest, and we've
Speaker 4: seen this over the coast of the past few years.
Speaker 4: As far as covering the Cowboys, flex doesn't always work
Speaker 4: in favor. Yeah, okay, it's actually worked against the Cowboys
Speaker 4: and a lot of instances, but with Marquise Bell it's
Speaker 4: working out perfectly. So now the question becomes and it's
Speaker 4: a fun question to have, and it's foreshadowing for twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four, but when overshown comes back, what do you
Speaker 4: do with Marquise Bell there? Like, do you drop him
Speaker 4: back and try to keep him as the safety and
Speaker 4: put him back in that Donovan Wilson lane as far
Speaker 4: as like the protege a of Donovan Wilson or do
Speaker 4: you just try to figure out, you know, how to
Speaker 4: play those guys alongside each other. Keeping in mind to
Speaker 4: mont Clark is taking strides as well, and then, of
Speaker 4: course lighton Vanderesch, it is presumably he'll still be a
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboy in twenty twenty four. So I love what
Speaker 4: I'm seeing from Marquis Bell. But like you said, if
Speaker 4: going into the season you had told me that he
Speaker 4: would have to be a convert to linebacker and he
Speaker 4: would not only do well, but he would impact games.
Speaker 4: Go back and look at the largest game he helped
Speaker 4: bottle up Austin Eklick fantastically, I would say the same thing,
Speaker 4: past whatever you're smoking, because it's just some good stuff.
Speaker 7: I think a question you would have to ask even
Speaker 7: sooner when it comes to twenty twenty four, a question
Speaker 7: you would have to ask even sooner when Layton is healthy.
Speaker 7: Do you still get him reps? And do you still
Speaker 7: rotate him in him being Marquise Yes, exactly. We've been
Speaker 7: talking about it on Talking Cowboys this week.
Speaker 6: What do you do there?
Speaker 7: Because you have a defender who has been so awesome
Speaker 7: in the run game, He's athletic enough to be able
Speaker 7: to step back in coverage. He does some things that
Speaker 7: Layton Vandersh can't do just because of his athleticism, his leanness.
Speaker 7: Do you how do you work that out. I think
Speaker 7: the only thing that I have qualms about is you
Speaker 7: can't replace Layton Vandersh's presence.
Speaker 4: And that's my thing is it's complete difference to LV
Speaker 4: at that point.
Speaker 9: And it's not.
Speaker 4: Yes, there are things that Marquise Bell is more athletic
Speaker 4: in than late Vandersh, but its presence, it's IQ. It's
Speaker 4: he's your green dot. It's his ability to control and
Speaker 4: represnap and communicate those things in real time. Veterans savvy
Speaker 4: that think, you know, Marquis Bell just doesn't have yet
Speaker 4: because he doesn't have those reps and those stripes just yet.
Speaker 4: So interesting conversation and I'd love to see how it
Speaker 4: shakes out. But for me, Leyton van Dersh comes back,
Speaker 4: that's who's going right back, and you don't siphon any
Speaker 4: of those or at least not more than a handful
Speaker 4: of those reps away from him to get Marquise in.
Speaker 4: The bigger question is how do you figure that out?
Speaker 4: As far as the splits between like d'mon and Marquise,
Speaker 4: for example, assuming Rashaun Evans is still on the roster,
Speaker 4: how do you figure that out? But when LV comes back,
Speaker 4: his role is still his role in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, you know the thing with I think
Speaker 2: having vander Usher on the field is huge. Yes, we'll
Speaker 2: see how that all plays out. I give dan Quinn
Speaker 2: a lot of credit, give Belle a lot of credit.
Speaker 2: When Dan finds ways to get guys involved. He's got
Speaker 2: ideas for players and how to play. I mean, where
Speaker 2: they need to be, where they need to be placed.
Speaker 2: I give him a lot of credit. As a former scout,
Speaker 2: I would love to work for a guy like Dan
Speaker 2: Quinn because I know if I bring him a player,
Speaker 2: he'll find a way to use him in the right way.
Speaker 2: I just like like, hey, coach, this this is kind
Speaker 2: of like my vision of what I saw the player,
Speaker 2: and and he you know, and then you you kind
Speaker 2: of present that he gets on your team. And then
Speaker 2: Dan finds another way to use in which is even
Speaker 2: bigger than the role that you had in vision for him.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask about won Ye Thomas, and I
Speaker 2: know these safeties are pretty locked in to you know,
Speaker 2: when you start to talk about Hooker and Curse and Wilson,
Speaker 2: how do you get wan Ye Thomas on the field.
Speaker 2: More to me, I see a smart guy that plays
Speaker 2: personal protector on the punt. That's the guy that calls
Speaker 2: out the block and scheme, make sure everything's solid up front.
Speaker 2: He's physical, he's tough, he's smart, he tackles well. How
Speaker 2: do we continue not to see him? It's always special
Speaker 2: teams reps, and I get it, you're you're gonna sacrifice
Speaker 2: snaps for guys that are starters. But I'm to the
Speaker 2: point now where I'd like to see him play some
Speaker 2: more defensive snaps. And I know your team's fighting for
Speaker 2: division titles and stuff right now, but I'd like to
Speaker 2: see him play a little bit more in these games.
Speaker 2: Am I? Am I doing what you're saying? Am I
Speaker 2: smoking something there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think you know.
Speaker 7: You look at an opportunity against the Giants this week
Speaker 7: and big spread seventeen points, it's the largest in the
Speaker 7: NFL so far this season. If everything goes to plan
Speaker 7: in the first half, you'll be able to try some
Speaker 7: things out in the second half and in the second half.
Speaker 7: I want to see one Yea get thrown in there.
Speaker 7: I want to see him at safety. I want to
Speaker 7: see him at nickel. He's athletic enough to play press
Speaker 7: man coverage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw some of that, ye, yeah.
Speaker 6: And do some awesome stuff with it.
Speaker 7: I know a big question mark around this entire team
Speaker 7: right now is if one of these corners goes down, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: exactly who steps up? And especially if it's Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 7: what do you do there? Do you move Bland inside
Speaker 7: and then you put Naean right on the outside you
Speaker 7: leave Bland out. I want to see what it looks
Speaker 7: like with one Ya at Nickel, because if you're able
Speaker 7: to keep Bland on the outside, if an injury does happen,
Speaker 7: then you can put one in there. Yeah exactly, you
Speaker 7: can keep one Ya on there and you trust him
Speaker 7: in that sense. And he hasn't done anything at least
Speaker 7: in my eyes, whether it be in the preseason or
Speaker 7: in his opportunities in the regular season to tell you otherwise.
Speaker 7: He's only in Golf's trust. On every opportunity that he's had,
Speaker 7: and we saw a lot of them early in the season,
Speaker 7: it had me thinking that he was going to be
Speaker 7: the key rotational piece in that secondary and then I
Speaker 7: don't know, the last couple of weeks, those opportunities have
Speaker 7: just been taken away. I don't know if that's matchup
Speaker 7: based or what but it's just something to keep an
Speaker 7: eye on for sure.
Speaker 4: Not dissimilar from the defensive line situation with like Sam Williams,
Speaker 4: for example, Dan Quinn has such an embarrassment of riches
Speaker 4: at that particular position defensive line and safety as well,
Speaker 4: that it becomes difficult to try to figure out how,
Speaker 4: to your point, how you get these guys like Jue
Speaker 4: Year reps over a guy like Jayron Curse. When you
Speaker 4: know what Jayron Curse brings to the table, you know
Speaker 4: what Millie Cooker brings to the table, and you absolutely
Speaker 4: know what Donovan Wilson brings to the table. I'm hard
Speaker 4: pressed to figure out how to do that in that instance.
Speaker 4: I would say, let it happen organically. That could be
Speaker 4: by virtue of dot dot dot right, but it also
Speaker 4: could happen if you handle your business. Great point by
Speaker 4: Nick Harrius. If you handle your business and you actually
Speaker 4: walk these giants out of the stadium like you walked
Speaker 4: them out of their own stadium in week one, now
Speaker 4: you start to get in the situation where you can
Speaker 4: start pulling starters middle of the third quarter, late third quarter.
Speaker 4: Now you can get these guys in. You can get
Speaker 4: wan Ye Thomas and you can kind of move him
Speaker 4: around and get him game experience at Nickel, which is
Speaker 4: a great one.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: What I would counter, what I would what were there
Speaker 4: is I think you would have to wonder if there
Speaker 4: were dot dot dot uh in the secondary at cornerback
Speaker 4: Nickel corner specifically, is he mcuamos He mccuamo stepped in
Speaker 4: and you look at what he did in the wildcard
Speaker 4: matchup against Tom Brady, kind of like the big slot,
Speaker 4: big Nickel guy, and he played extremely well. So even
Speaker 4: that goes to the original point of there's such an
Speaker 4: embarrassment of riches because mccuamu has a high ceiling, but
Speaker 4: he can't crack the rotation. Naseean has ability, he can't
Speaker 4: crack the rotation. And I'm really against right now because
Speaker 4: Deron Bland is settling in on the boundary, I'm really
Speaker 4: against moving him back inside. Should dot dot dot occur.
Speaker 4: So if you want to start experiencing, and if you're
Speaker 4: the Cowboys and you want to answer that question, blow
Speaker 4: out the giants. So you can put these guys in
Speaker 4: in the you know, late third and entirety of the
Speaker 4: fourth quarters, you can find some things out outside of
Speaker 4: that if you have to play continuously close games going forward,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to continue to lean on your jay
Speaker 4: Ron Curses and your Malie Hookers and Donovan Wilson's is
Speaker 4: gonna make it difficult for a guy like Juan Yet
Speaker 4: to crack through. But kudos to him because when he's
Speaker 4: been on the field, he's been mostly fantastic.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I like what you guys are
Speaker 2: saying there. I'd just like to see him out there
Speaker 2: a little bit more. I mean, there's him and Rico
Speaker 2: Dwell on those guys. But I understand. You know, coaches,
Speaker 2: I've always learned this. Coaches will they go with what
Speaker 2: they know. They they you know, they until they until
Speaker 2: you show them, hey, this is there's a different way
Speaker 2: to do this, they'll keep going with the guys that
Speaker 2: they know. So you know, that's probably why you're gonna
Speaker 2: see see what you see right now. All right, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take our first break. I mentioned we're gonna take
Speaker 2: your questions. I need you guys to light this thing up.
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Speaker 7: Do you think putting Micah in the middle helps this
Speaker 7: defense with vander Rush being out and Clark not being
Speaker 7: a difference maker, I believe it's easier to scheme against
Speaker 7: Micah when he's on the edge your thought. So, a
Speaker 7: couple of things I want to address in the question
Speaker 7: itself first before we answer it. I believe he's asking
Speaker 7: putting Micah in the middle as a pass rusher coming
Speaker 7: off the top is like a zero tech or a
Speaker 7: one tech that he's done at times. I will say
Speaker 7: Clark not being a difference maker, I don't necessarily agree
Speaker 7: with that. You look at what he's done in the
Speaker 7: run game and being able to just do his job.
Speaker 7: I think when it comes to just doing his job
Speaker 7: and staying out of the way, he's done a good
Speaker 7: job of doing that. Is he the most impactful player
Speaker 7: on this defense. Absolutely not, but he serves a very
Speaker 7: viable role and he's done a good job with that
Speaker 7: role in this season in my opinion. As far as
Speaker 7: your question about Micah coming down the middle, yeah, there's
Speaker 7: a lot.
Speaker 6: There's a lot you can take away from that.
Speaker 7: You can't do it too much because the running game
Speaker 7: is obviously going to attack Micah Parsons on a consistent basis,
Speaker 7: and until he proves that he can be an elite
Speaker 7: run defender, it's going to continue to be that way.
Speaker 7: That's how they flush him out, that's how they get
Speaker 7: him questioning himself in the pass rush. That's his biggest negative,
Speaker 7: and obviously that's the thing he's been working on the most,
Speaker 7: So putting him in the middle on a consistent basis,
Speaker 7: that's only going to hurt him there, and it's only
Speaker 7: going to open up more holes in the middle of
Speaker 7: the field. I still like the distribution that they have,
Speaker 7: putting him in the middle for about eight to ten
Speaker 7: snaps a game and leave him on the edge for
Speaker 7: the other ones. But as long as you keep him moving,
Speaker 7: that keeps the offensive line guessing, and that keeps the
Speaker 7: entire offense guessing as well.
Speaker 4: I definitely disagree on the mont Clark statement. What I
Speaker 4: will say is Michael Parsons. My stance on him hasn't
Speaker 4: changed from the past couple of seasons in that I
Speaker 4: love I would love to designate him as W which
Speaker 4: stands for weapon versatile, move him around, and now, more
Speaker 4: so than ever, you're seeing Dan Quinn not only commit
Speaker 4: him as a defensive end. Now, yes, he's taking some
Speaker 4: snaps his linebacker because Ley Vandrush is out, but you're
Speaker 4: also seeing Michael Parsons rush from the left. You're seeing
Speaker 4: him line up over guards, You're seeing him line up
Speaker 4: over centers. That's what I want to see from Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4: That's how I think you make it virtually impossible to
Speaker 4: scheme against him because it's a game of where's Waldo?
Speaker 4: And on every snap you have to try to identify
Speaker 4: where Waldo is. And the fact that you cannot do
Speaker 4: that is going to help him eat that much more.
Speaker 4: It's going to help free up guys like Osa DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 4: Neville Gallimore, Jonathan Hankins and eventually Mazzie Smith as well,
Speaker 4: Chauncey Ghost and he started, he's starting to make an
Speaker 4: impact as well. Go back and look at that Eagles game.
Speaker 4: So for me, it's about moving Micah around. It's not
Speaker 4: about keeping him at full time right defensive end. It's
Speaker 4: not about keeping him eighty percent in the middle of
Speaker 4: the field as an MLB, as a mike. It's about
Speaker 4: getting him in positions to help him succeed, and those
Speaker 4: positions may vary from snap to snap.
Speaker 2: I love that, yeah, But I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 2: if he can continue to get centers like Shelton from
Speaker 2: the Rams and you can't handle one on one, if
Speaker 2: you get Kelsey, that sometimes is not strong enough. And
Speaker 2: then John Michael Smith's this weekend for the Giants not
Speaker 2: a very strong center. If it doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: every snap, but there's some opportunities if you can scheme
Speaker 2: him one on one against these centers that aren't very strong.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he embarrasses him. He really does a great
Speaker 2: job with that, right.
Speaker 7: Nick, He's a really good one. It's very quick and
Speaker 7: to the point. Shout out to Mike and Virginia. Thank
Speaker 7: you Mike, who is wide receiver two on this team.
Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson, wide receiver two, said, Jake fergus that's not
Speaker 7: a lie, right I said.
Speaker 4: I said what I said, and we we've said it,
Speaker 4: and I said it a couple of times this week
Speaker 4: right here on this platform. Jake Ferguson needs to be
Speaker 4: your number two target. He needs to be your number
Speaker 4: two Look until further notice, I believe Brandon Cooks will
Speaker 4: organically begin to come along, and you know, he might
Speaker 4: have an explosive game here against the Giants. Going back
Speaker 4: to Nick's point to start the show, but Jake Ferguson
Speaker 4: is outside of Ceedee Lamb. He's the hottest hand that
Speaker 4: you have if you're Dak Prescott. So he's coming along strong.
Speaker 4: He's showing you that he can probably be, you know,
Speaker 4: as far as potential wise, in his trajectory, he could
Speaker 4: be what Witten was a more athletic version of it, though.
Speaker 4: But what Witten was to Tony Romo what helped me
Speaker 4: out Novichek was to Troy Aikman, and Dalton Schults was
Speaker 4: to Dak Prescott. But now you have a situation where
Speaker 4: you have a younger Jake Ferguson. Dak presumably is going
Speaker 4: to get into a new car. I mean, like, let
Speaker 4: that bill, let that cook. So for me, don't force
Speaker 4: it the Cooks. It's going to come on its own
Speaker 4: and ceedee Lamb is going to get his. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson, Okay, you have an answer there.
Speaker 2: You know what it? Uh? Me personally, I feel like
Speaker 2: it it's Cooks and I think I think Cooks has
Speaker 2: had some bad luck with the play calls that have tried.
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to scheme things for him. I
Speaker 2: just think there's some unfortunate things that have happened that
Speaker 2: have not allowed him, uh to be the beneficiary of
Speaker 2: some of the play calls that they're trying to scheme
Speaker 2: him with.
Speaker 7: UH. This is a really quick one. I just want
Speaker 7: to address. I don't think necessarily we should go. We
Speaker 7: can't if y'all want to, if y'all have an opinion.
Speaker 7: First off, he says, good morning, handsome gentleman. That's thank fantastic,
Speaker 7: thank you. I shout out to the same in California.
Speaker 7: His question is Jalen Brooks looked amazing during training camp.
Speaker 7: Wonder we should give him a try as far as
Speaker 7: throwing him into the offense. Just want to address this
Speaker 7: really quick. If Cavante Turpin does not play on Sunday,
Speaker 7: that's probably the guy that gets activated in his place.
Speaker 7: So you might get your wish on Sunday if Turpin
Speaker 7: is not playing. As far as another question, I had
Speaker 7: a really good one, and.
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Speaker 6: So this is Jose.
Speaker 7: He is from Dallas, but he's currently active duty in
Speaker 7: San Diego.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7: How much of a thought do you guys think the
Speaker 7: coaching staff has given into giving Jalen Tolbert more snaps
Speaker 7: over Michael Gallup or turpin. If he's injured in critical downs,
Speaker 7: his development and progress has been great to see, thank you.
Speaker 7: I so if you look at the snap counts, honestly,
Speaker 7: in the last three or four weeks, I was going
Speaker 7: he's starting to cut into it already. You look at
Speaker 7: what he did against the Eagles. This is my opinion.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to speak for the coaching staff. In
Speaker 7: my opinion, you look at what he did against the Eagles,
Speaker 7: and you have to be able to take away the
Speaker 7: fact that he could show up in those critical moments.
Speaker 7: He can be able to deliver you a touchdown drive
Speaker 7: and a touchdown catching those moments. If trust is the
Speaker 7: only thing he's given you so far in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 7: why not put it back into him.
Speaker 6: So for me, I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I would like to see Tolbert get increased opportunities as
Speaker 7: a year goes on.
Speaker 4: And I agree, and I think, like you said, it's
Speaker 4: the keyword is organic. It's organically. And then go back
Speaker 4: and look at the Philadelphia Eagles game. You get an
Speaker 4: early game dropped from Michael gallupin and kudos to Gallop
Speaker 4: for recovering and getting those two possession catches down. But
Speaker 4: you then saw after that. I don't think it was
Speaker 4: a coincidence that you saw some targets going to Jalen
Speaker 4: Tobert after that, and then what does Tobert do? He
Speaker 4: rewards you with a touchdown and the penalty drawn. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. I think it needs to
Speaker 4: continue to happen. I don't think we're at the point
Speaker 4: yet wherein Jalen Tobert has surpassed Michael Gallup, but give
Speaker 4: him an opportunity to compete for those snaps alongside Michael
Speaker 4: galloping and kind of made the best man win type situation.
Speaker 7: Well said, this is a question from double R and
Speaker 7: seven to three to two. Is the issue with the
Speaker 7: run game, scheme, slash coaching or personnel. I'm not inclined
Speaker 7: to believe TP is a lesser of a running back
Speaker 7: because of his injury. I agree with that second sentence
Speaker 7: for sure. For me, it's for me, it's it's it's
Speaker 7: a combination of things. It's not personnel. I could say
Speaker 7: that right off the bat. For me, it's a combination
Speaker 7: of things. One, it's offensive line consistency. I think that's
Speaker 7: your biggest issue forward some running game this season, Guys
Speaker 7: just being able to stack good reps and we haven't
Speaker 7: necessarily seen that on both sides of the offensive line,
Speaker 7: right And we haven't even had all five guys on
Speaker 7: the offensive line four a consistent amount of time. So
Speaker 7: that's the biggest thing for me. And also I think
Speaker 7: there is a little bit of blame that you can
Speaker 7: put into scheme and coaching, because I've said this a
Speaker 7: couple of times this week. Tony Pollard is a phenomenal
Speaker 7: complimentary back and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with that at all.
Speaker 7: Like he can be that receiving type of scatback that
Speaker 7: you can throw him out in the slot even if
Speaker 7: you want to. At times, I don't want to see
Speaker 7: him downhill every time he touches the ball. And he's
Speaker 7: gotten twelve carries in his past two games, each twelve
Speaker 7: carries in each of the last two games and going
Speaker 7: downhill eighty ninety percent of the time, and I just
Speaker 7: don't want to see him between the tackles every play
Speaker 7: to Sometimes I will say this every time.
Speaker 2: I wasn't the biggest Joe Philbin fan. They missed Joe Philbin.
Speaker 2: They do. In my opinion, I think that this group,
Speaker 2: and you know before that was who I call running
Speaker 2: game Moses Bill Callahan's the world and all that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something different about the way that they're I think
Speaker 2: there's things that are trying to do scheme wise. I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to double team at spots. I think
Speaker 2: they're trying to get guys at second level. I think
Speaker 2: they're trying to do all these things to run the
Speaker 2: ball better. But that Joe Philbin had this crew running
Speaker 2: the ball a lot better, and maybe maybe you missed
Speaker 2: the two back way of doing things. That's why I
Speaker 2: want to see more of Recal Daubtle a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, the one big run they had that was
Speaker 2: the holding play, that was a well blocked play. They're
Speaker 2: capable of doing that, you know, they just haven't. You
Speaker 2: talked about Nick talks about the consistency. They haven't done
Speaker 2: that enough. But I do think they miss I do
Speaker 2: think that with Mike Solari, and I'm not sound like
Speaker 2: I'm taking a slam or a shot at him, but
Speaker 2: I think these line coaches. To me, when you look
Speaker 2: at the offense and defensive cornerat the next most important
Speaker 2: position on your staff is the offensive line coach. And
Speaker 2: I think there's been a transitional problem here, you know,
Speaker 2: with them and the and the and the run and
Speaker 2: the way that they're they're blocking right now.
Speaker 4: I think agreed and first and foremost in we're all
Speaker 4: on the same page when it comes to this. Offensive
Speaker 4: line play has to improve. And we can say that
Speaker 4: until we're blue in the face, but that's the fact.
Speaker 4: Offensive line improve play improves. You will see the run
Speaker 4: game become more effective. Now secondary to that, but still
Speaker 4: key is something we talked about yesterday. It's complimentary back
Speaker 4: versus being the RB one. With the departure of Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 4: Now everyone or most people have what they wanted, which
Speaker 4: is Tony Pollad is RB one. But you have to
Speaker 4: understand that that comes with a lot of the heavy lifting,
Speaker 4: the dirty work, the pass pro the dirty plays that
Speaker 4: we're going to Ezekiel Elliott. And then over the course
Speaker 4: of the season, now as we hit week ten, it
Speaker 4: starts to wear on them. You start to lose a
Speaker 4: little bit of that top gear, a little bit of
Speaker 4: that home run ability. And now guess who gets to
Speaker 4: come in with the fresh legs and now everybody wants
Speaker 4: to see more of It's recal dauto. It's a formula.
Speaker 4: It's a pattern that continues to be prevalent. So whether
Speaker 4: it be Julius Jones versus Felix Jones and then Felix
Speaker 4: Jones versus Lance Dunbar and DeMarco Murray and Lance Dunbar's,
Speaker 4: it's always going to be easier for the complimentary back
Speaker 4: to come in fresh legs and be a little bit
Speaker 4: more explode. So I don't think it's a personnel issue
Speaker 4: as much as it is just understanding that you're not
Speaker 4: going to see the twenty twenty two Tony Pollard in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. That does not mean he doesn't have
Speaker 4: the explosiveness, doesn't mean he won't take one to the house.
Speaker 4: But again, go back and look at the Charges game.
Speaker 4: For example, Dak Prescott makes the play kudo with his legs.
Speaker 4: Kudos to Tony Pollard for finding a way to get
Speaker 4: open in the field. He gets that, he rattles it off,
Speaker 4: turns it into a sixty yard game. But why was
Speaker 4: it not a touchdown because he didn't feel this guy?
Speaker 4: In twenty two and twenty one, Tony Pollard feels that
Speaker 4: guy and that's a home run. It's just RB one
Speaker 4: duties are different, So it wears on you. So all
Speaker 4: of that kind of goes to indo play.
Speaker 7: There are a lot of questions in here about Trey Lance,
Speaker 7: and yeah, just said the last question.
Speaker 2: Could let's get one more question to break.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a progress report that they're winning on Trey Lance.
Speaker 7: He gets in a pregame workout before every single game
Speaker 7: about three hours before his quarterbacks coach Scott Tolzen don't
Speaker 7: expec to se him the season.
Speaker 6: That's why we got that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, to me, the way Dak is playing quick,
Speaker 2: you know, the progress I think they're asking about is
Speaker 2: and this is where to me, you have like twenty
Speaker 2: some odd coaches on staff. There's got to be a
Speaker 2: plan that they have pre practice, post practice where they
Speaker 2: put the scout team receivers or practice squad receivers out
Speaker 2: there and they go through things with him. So they're
Speaker 2: trying to bring him along. He's a smart guy. He's
Speaker 2: understanding what they're trying to do. You know, if something
Speaker 2: were to happen to Dak Prescott, it's going to be
Speaker 2: Cooper rush and then you go from there.
Speaker 7: It's it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there is a plan for how he practices
Speaker 2: and how he gets reps, and you know he's just
Speaker 2: not sitting there not doing anything. They have a plan
Speaker 2: for what they need to do. All right, we're going
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Speaker 2: All right. Questions that I have for my guys, Nick,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you on this one, Oh Cowboys player,
Speaker 2: you'd like to have a podcast with?
Speaker 6: Current or former, doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: I think we were asked this a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I thought I was breaking No, no, no.
Speaker 6: Not at all.
Speaker 7: I'm trying and I said, I said, Cavante Turpin just
Speaker 7: because He's just like a ball of energy at all times.
Speaker 7: And I just love people from Louisiana as well. So yeah,
Speaker 7: throw throw me in a room with Cavante Turpin. We're
Speaker 7: gonna have some fun.
Speaker 4: And you said it could be past present matter Michael Irvin. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: Yeah podcast with Michael Irving because not only is it
Speaker 4: going to be energetic and fun, but I mean incomparable
Speaker 4: football like you so all manner of football, all manner
Speaker 4: of Cowboys talk. Give me Michael Irvan.
Speaker 2: I think there was a side of me that that
Speaker 2: back in the day, like Thomas Hollywood Henderson way back
Speaker 2: in the day he was with us. And then uh,
Speaker 2: and then I think then I would think that maybe
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. I love what Michael Parsons is doing with
Speaker 2: He's having fun, He's having fun. He's honest. He just
Speaker 2: says what you know, he says, he doesn't care. I mean,
Speaker 2: he says what he needs to say. So I think
Speaker 2: it'd be kind of fun to kind of chop it
Speaker 2: up with him a little bit. All right, Patrick, Game,
Speaker 2: you'd like to be in Mike McCarthy's shoes for for
Speaker 2: a day. You're the head coach for the Cowboys for
Speaker 2: a day in this game.
Speaker 6: That's opposition.
Speaker 2: No, you get to be the head coach of the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So you you you're you're the head coach. Give me
Speaker 2: the game that you want this season that you want
Speaker 2: to be the head.
Speaker 9: Coach for.
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 6: Mine's the Panthers. I don't want to coach.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, Philadelphia Eagles, because it's always sweet when the
Speaker 4: Cowboys can hand the Eagles of loss. But if the
Speaker 4: Cowboys can handle Eagles, the Eagles a loss and it's
Speaker 4: me pulling the strings all that, Oh yeah, that's just
Speaker 4: early Christmas for me.
Speaker 6: The Panthers want to coach. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 7: I'm okay with putting the guys on the old I'm
Speaker 7: going to tell him what to do.
Speaker 6: Though, coaching coaching is fun.
Speaker 2: You don't want to you don't want to call plays.
Speaker 6: Maybe you know, you get that big old play card
Speaker 6: like on Madden. I do coaches play or I do
Speaker 6: the suggested plays?
Speaker 4: No, see, I want I want the challenge. You want
Speaker 4: to smoke or I want the smoke. I want the
Speaker 4: Eagles smoke.
Speaker 6: I respect that.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like that, like that that Eagles
Speaker 2: game would be.
Speaker 4: A lot of fun.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 2: I think if you had to do it over maybe
Speaker 2: San Francisco to try and kind of figure out navigate
Speaker 2: that one, even though it turned in. I mean I'm
Speaker 2: talking about before, you know that before not afterwards, we
Speaker 2: have to stand up there and answer your guys questions
Speaker 2: about what happened. But yeah, I think the San Francisco
Speaker 2: game would be an entertaining one for me. All Right, Nick, uh.
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Have you ever been nervous asking a question to Jerry
Speaker 2: or Steven?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna steal the answer from Beam here. He's
Speaker 7: like yeah and asking for a raise, But uh yeah,
Speaker 7: there was there was a moment with uh that I
Speaker 7: had with Steven. It was before it was before the season,
Speaker 7: before they went to training camp. I believe it was
Speaker 7: Steven's final availability before they went to training camp, and
Speaker 7: he was getting grilled quite a bit about the kicker
Speaker 7: situation at that point.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 7: Yes, It's like, hey, like, where's the kicker basically? And
Speaker 7: I had i'd asked him. I was like is he
Speaker 7: in the building? That just I was like, is he
Speaker 7: in the building?
Speaker 2: Did you ask it? Real soft? One of those moments.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with, No here simply because and this
Speaker 4: is giving roses to to Jerry and Steven and just
Speaker 4: the front office in general. They're very self aware. Like,
Speaker 4: they're very aware. I mean, you see how they let
Speaker 4: us step in here and the objective and our on
Speaker 4: we get an objective in our written analysis. And so
Speaker 4: when you walk up and you ask Steven or Jerry
Speaker 4: a question, I mean they know if it's coming off
Speaker 4: a loss, it's probably going to be a question about
Speaker 4: how can this team improve? It's ahead of the trade deadline,
Speaker 4: it's well, you have some deficiencies here, what are you thinking?
Speaker 4: So I think because they're self aware, it makes it
Speaker 4: easier to have a dialog in a conversation because they're
Speaker 4: they're really defensive, Like I've not seen Stephen Jones get defensive.
Speaker 4: So it's it's not often that you could say that
Speaker 4: when you're talking about those kinds of guys and you know,
Speaker 4: in those type of seats of power. So kudos to
Speaker 4: those guys. I mean, they're very self aware, they're very
Speaker 4: open to questions, and they don't run, they don't have.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're very personal. Absolutely, they're easy to talk to.
Speaker 7: They come down to your level, and it makes it
Speaker 7: it makes it simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember, like, work it right. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: when you when you do work for them though, And
Speaker 2: I've had the experience of being with them in me
Speaker 2: I've seen them really mad, you know, both of them
Speaker 2: really mad, and it makes you you're thinking like, Okay,
Speaker 2: do I want to ask this question? Get them to
Speaker 2: that level again, you know, if you don't want to
Speaker 2: be the reason, I really want to be the reason
Speaker 2: why they're about to lose their minds here. But no,
Speaker 2: but you're I think you're both right about it is
Speaker 2: they do they they they they understand, they understand you
Speaker 2: have to do a job, you know, and they understand that,
Speaker 2: you know, not all questions are going to be as
Speaker 2: long as you're fair.
Speaker 6: That's just as long as you're fair, respectful, fair.
Speaker 2: And respectful, that's all that matters for me. All right,
Speaker 2: A couple more questions Cherry, real quick, if we can,
Speaker 2: How would you feel, Patrick if Dak Prescott broke down
Speaker 2: your job on a weekly basis?
Speaker 4: I would love it. I would love it. It would
Speaker 4: be fun to me. And because it goes back to
Speaker 4: what you said, so it's respect.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: We get in here and every day we analyze and
Speaker 4: we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful,
Speaker 4: but it's always respectfully done. So any criticism is always
Speaker 4: constructive criticism. And knowing Dak Prescott and knowing how he
Speaker 4: approaches life, he always looks at it from a constructive process.
Speaker 4: So I would love for him to step in here
Speaker 4: and break down me on a play by play basis,
Speaker 4: because I know, even if I don't agree with everything
Speaker 4: he says, everything is coming from a constructive standpoint. And
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to be coached. I'm very coachable. I've
Speaker 4: always been coachable my whole life. I've played most sports,
Speaker 4: team and individual sports, and just growing up in a
Speaker 4: big family, you have to be able to be kind
Speaker 4: of like the consummate team person. I'm the little brother
Speaker 4: to somebody, but I'm the big brother to somebody else.
Speaker 4: So I would love it. Hey, Dak Prescott, if you
Speaker 4: want to jump in here on this mic and break
Speaker 4: down this week's science lab line by line, Let's have
Speaker 4: some fun with it. Let's do it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm always somebody who's who's seeking out opinions and
Speaker 7: trying to figure out what's what I'm doing right, what
Speaker 7: I'm doing wrong? And when you look at Dak Prescott specifically,
Speaker 7: he's one of the biggest competitors in the entire league.
Speaker 7: And we were in the locker room yesterday and he
Speaker 7: just kind of just stood up and he was like,
Speaker 7: all right, who wants to smoking ping pong? He's just
Speaker 7: he's always looking for a competing a competition. So if
Speaker 7: he has that competing mindset, I want him criticizing what
Speaker 7: I got going on.
Speaker 2: I like what you guys are saying there. I think
Speaker 2: it would be interesting, for sure. They'd like to see
Speaker 2: how critical he really could be of what you're talking
Speaker 2: about on a daily basis, whether I know on r
Speaker 2: N stuff we're talking like with what I do one
Speaker 2: oh five three. I'd love to hear him like, brother,
Speaker 2: you know nothing about the MAVs. That's a terrible Stars
Speaker 2: talk right there. You know you're missing the point on
Speaker 2: the baseball stuff. All right, My final question for you
Speaker 2: guys go to item in the Star cafeteria.
Speaker 7: Oh man, I gosh, I will say, yeah, the churils
Speaker 7: are not a bad that's not a bad bad. That's
Speaker 7: that's not a bad one. That's not a bad one. Gosh,
Speaker 7: there's been some meals that we've had down there. At
Speaker 7: times we had a The chicken tenders are to go
Speaker 7: to for sure. But if if I had to point,
Speaker 7: like one day that I had just a phenomenal time
Speaker 7: in the cafeteria, it was when they had the Hispanic
Speaker 7: heritage did and they brought in just food from.
Speaker 6: Every Yeah they here it was.
Speaker 2: It was so good. Yeah, the corn dogs and stuff
Speaker 2: like that got one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going with I don't think the churrolls can
Speaker 4: be beat because not only it's not like what you'd
Speaker 4: find it one of the draft through restaurants where it's
Speaker 4: like the four or five. No, I mean it's it's
Speaker 4: it's pause. There's so much in them it so it's great,
Speaker 4: absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here today, we always have
Speaker 2: to have a score prediction. Patrick score prediction for the
Speaker 2: Cowboys Giants game.
Speaker 4: Not a trap game. Cowboys going focused. They do very
Speaker 4: well in avoiding two game losing streaks. Giants are just
Speaker 4: down trot and then they're spiraling. Right now, I think
Speaker 4: the Cowboys just walk them out of the building and
Speaker 4: get up early and it turns out to be a blowout.
Speaker 4: My first blowout prediction of the season is right now,
Speaker 4: forty six to seven on a garbage time touchdown from
Speaker 4: the Giants.
Speaker 6: Very nice.
Speaker 7: I wonder forty six seven is a score. Gum me
Speaker 7: as well again, Dartboard forty one to thirteen. I think
Speaker 7: they get out to a big league Like you said,
Speaker 7: I think there's another defensive touchdown this week. Definitely looking
Speaker 7: at a lot of different things. So I'm more looking
Speaker 7: at the intricacies of this game this week and how
Speaker 7: it can build momentum as the season goes on. But
Speaker 7: I think the Cowboys they get out early and they
Speaker 7: win big.
Speaker 2: Cowboys win this one, thirty to six. That's what they do.
Speaker 2: So that's it for our time here on the break.
Speaker 2: I want to thank Nick Harris, Thanks Sir Patrick Walker,
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for allowing me to host today. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that. I want to thank Chris Beam, and I
Speaker 2: want to thank everybody out there who listens to a
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Speaker 2: some results and talk about this how this New York
Speaker 2: Giants game went. Take care of a great weekend.
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