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Speaker 3: O G A one C.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of the second quarter of the Michigan

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Speaker 2: Ohio State game, let me know it, tweeted both of us.

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Speaker 4: And said, I am not happy. What's what's going on here?

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Speaker 4: I am not happy with Ryan Day.

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Speaker 3: Norwill Howard. Now that we have that out of the way,

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Speaker 3: that's right, folks.

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Speaker 4: For in a row our presidential term, back to back

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Speaker 4: to back to back to beck Michigan beats Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day won the first one.

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Speaker 3: Everything was good.

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Speaker 4: Then then it's proceeded to drop four in a row,

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Speaker 4: in the biggest game that matters for him in the

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Speaker 4: regular season, and now Ohio State is in the scenario.

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Speaker 4: Well first round by kiss that bye bye. Okay, that's

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Speaker 4: where that went. And now we'll see how they feel

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Speaker 4: about how the committee feels because now Indiana, right, remember

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Speaker 4: that was the other Big Ten team and then in

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Speaker 4: the state, but you know it was really Ohio State Indiants.

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Speaker 3: Well, now Indiana's got one less lost than Ohio State does.

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Speaker 4: Ohio State with the two losses, this is Ryan Day's

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Speaker 4: first first lost to a non ranked opponent, yet his

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Speaker 4: fourth to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: And this is just a game in which.

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Speaker 4: If you're an Ohio State fan at this moment and

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Speaker 4: you are feeling like.

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Speaker 3: You're ready to burn the entire earth.

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Speaker 4: Down, I'll just say I completely understand because this was

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Speaker 4: the game that you needed to get mej This is

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Speaker 4: the game Ohio State needed to get Michigan is down.

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Speaker 4: Michigan just sent eighteen players to the NFL combine left

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Speaker 4: than a year ago. This team is devoid of pros.

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Speaker 4: Like they have a handful, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's not like last year where you're looking across the

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Speaker 2: league Mikey Sanderstrill. If we're making place for the Washington Commanders, right,

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy was gonna walk in and be the starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings and tell me they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be at least eight and three right next to the team,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, all right, So there were guys pros that

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Speaker 2: were walking in offensive linemen that are walking and starting

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Speaker 4: This is not that team from Michigan. This is not

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Speaker 4: Jim Harbo's Wolverines. In fact, it's so much not Jim

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Speaker 4: Harbo's Wolverines. He took half the damn coachixt a half

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Speaker 4: to Los Angeles. Jay interviews him after every Chargers game. Sure,

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Speaker 4: Jesse mintored Greg Roman, I mean, everybody, that was very nice, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: This is all new, This is all new.

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Speaker 4: This was the time that Ohio State was supposed to flex.

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Speaker 4: This was the time that Ohio State was supposed to

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Speaker 4: restore order in this rivalry. This was the time in

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Speaker 4: which Ohio State was supposed to show just what a

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Speaker 4: top three team in college football looks like.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know what happened?

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Speaker 4: The same that's been happening year after year after year

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Speaker 4: after year.

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Speaker 3: Before I started.

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Speaker 4: As always, I want to say hello to all the

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Speaker 4: fans out there listening in a Fox Sports Radio fan

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Speaker 4: tomorrow in VJ. Thank you for tuning in. You know,

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Speaker 4: we love y'all as I do every Saturday. Now that

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Speaker 4: that's gone, mar you make sure you keep that going

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Speaker 4: on repeat.

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Speaker 3: I sat in this very chair just yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And I told Arnie Spaniard and I told my good

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Speaker 4: Show tonight, guys, twelve thirty Pacific time. Make sure you

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Speaker 4: guys tune in for that and everybody that was listening,

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Speaker 4: and I've been saying it all year long. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is the victory laps of victory laps for VJ.

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Speaker 4: Vern Now Husky the big Vanilla funny and a love

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Speaker 4: run into shah In an alumni. I'm sitting next to. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's the that's got the shirt on with the with

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Speaker 4: the block and right now you see the drip.

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Speaker 3: You see the reason why on camera while I'm dressed

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Speaker 4: I told you all all year long what was going

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Speaker 4: to happened to Ohio State this year? And what was

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Speaker 4: gonna happen today. Will Howard is min at best and

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Speaker 4: when you put the game in his hands, he will

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Speaker 4: throw the game away against Michigan, and he did it

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Speaker 4: twice today and then after he got his bell run

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Speaker 4: he tried to run it into the stadium boom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he tried to run to the.

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Speaker 4: End of the stadium and hype the crowd up like,

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Speaker 4: oh no, I'm back, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: I told Arnie and Bernie yesterday we are gonna win

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Speaker 4: in the trenches. We have the best D line in

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Speaker 4: the nation. We have the best two D tackles in

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Speaker 4: the nation. They are first round trap pops, their first

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Speaker 3: One of them is.

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Speaker 4: From modern day high school right out here. I saw

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Speaker 4: him and covering him when he was in high school.

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Speaker 4: I told you we would outrush them. Go check the

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Speaker 4: rushes debts. I believe it was one seventy seven to

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Speaker 4: like seventy five or seventy four yards. That's aehard and

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Speaker 4: more yards than them on the ground. Who's the quarterback

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Speaker 4: for Michigan, You know what? God, I think his name

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Speaker 4: is Davis Warren who threw he had lest yards passing

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Speaker 4: Ohio State had rush They had rushing, no coasting, no

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Speaker 4: Loveland today, no all American Johnson that corner. Today Edwards

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Speaker 4: doesn't return today, no uniform receiver, no receiver to catch

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Speaker 4: the football, and a walk on quarterback. Ohio State spent

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Speaker 4: twenty one million dollars for today, for today, and I'm

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Speaker 4: all about nil. I'm all about porter. You guys hear me.

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Speaker 4: I don't complain about it. Pay the kids, pay the kids,

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Speaker 4: pay the kids, but damn it, you better win. And

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Speaker 4: you know what happened again today? Oh no dulls thress Quato.

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Speaker 4: You know what, that senior class will never have a

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Speaker 4: never have those stupid ass goal payers did they give

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Speaker 4: out when they beat Michigan? You know what, that senior

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Speaker 4: if that class will never have a national championship, and

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Speaker 4: you know what else they'll never have, They'll never have

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Speaker 4: a fifteen to no undefeated season. I'm gonna stop right

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Speaker 4: now before I get going to the Lord. If I

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Speaker 4: was unbearable before, let me get it. If I was

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Speaker 4: unbearable to you before, I've been telling you all year long.

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Speaker 3: You think we care about Michigan six and we don't.

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Speaker 4: You know why because it still says twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: That ring. What does it do? Mark? What's the ring

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Speaker 4: R It's still shining and it's something that you will

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Speaker 4: never ever have there at Ohio State again. Your program

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Speaker 4: don't matter no more.

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Speaker 3: It's done.

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Speaker 4: What you're gonna do now fire him? Who you're gonna

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Speaker 4: go get, You're gonna bring back Urban.

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Speaker 3: That's the DJ. That's the quiet part out loud.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day is a hell of a football coach against

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Speaker 4: everybody but Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That's the wild part.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day is one of the best winning percentages in

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Speaker 4: college football. John Cooper I was just about to so

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Speaker 4: is John Cooper. So did John So was John Cooper,

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Speaker 4: So did John Cooper has lost this game. Let them

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Speaker 4: come out. Look right now, right now, the Ohio State

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Speaker 4: fan in your family wants to fire Ryan Day. Imagine

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Speaker 4: what happens in the first round of the playoffs where

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Speaker 4: Ohio State was supposed to have a first round by

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Speaker 4: not gonna happen. They're supposed to have a first round

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Speaker 4: by not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: They might. I mean they're gonna be able to road

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Speaker 4: It depends because it would it would be some funny

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Speaker 4: stuff to happen, Like Indiana would have to get valued

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Speaker 4: more highly than Ohio State, but like they could be

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Speaker 3: Imagine if imagine.

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Speaker 2: The world where Boise State, who took the number one

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Speaker 2: Imagine a world where Boise State beats Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Just turn the handleball to genty. He could do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because what we saw that I saw Khalil Mullins,

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Speaker 4: going pro and something else. Yeah, okay, no he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not an NFL. I don't think he's NFL back now.

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Speaker 4: He's not an NFL guy. And he was just mauling them.

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Speaker 4: But you know what he is though he's un defeated

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Speaker 4: against Ohio State. Well that's one thing to make one correction.

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Speaker 4: There is one member, one member of the Ohio State

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Speaker 4: This gotta be a trick question. He must he must

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Speaker 3: Go, that's I know it, say I know it.

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Speaker 4: He must be at another school because ain't nobody that

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Speaker 4: None of them guys there have done it.

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Speaker 3: Today. Martin was this might have been one.

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Speaker 4: Of my favorite Michigan victories ever because it's six and five.

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Speaker 4: We couldn't find our quarterback up. I called that three

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Speaker 4: weeks ago. We're getting bright sounderway, No, you're not VJ.

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Speaker 4: You guys aren't getting brace under. I sat right here

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Speaker 4: till Martin. What's the price? That's where we're at college football?

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Speaker 4: What's the price?

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Speaker 3: Son? What does it take you?

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Speaker 4: You want some SUVs to show your family back and

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Speaker 4: forth for the games? What you need fifty game tickets?

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Speaker 4: They want to get pregame field access to stand.

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Speaker 3: On the side.

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Speaker 4: What does it take, young man, for you to just

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Speaker 4: way to back down rouge And he gave them the

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Speaker 3: By the way, Tom Brady made a phone call. How

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady made a phone call. I even got that

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Speaker 4: deal done. The biggest endowment in college sports, ye in college,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the founders of Google, the big Tom Brady, like

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Speaker 3: you could buy former presidents, former presidents, you guys.

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Speaker 5: If with all that being the case, why why is

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Speaker 5: Brian Kelly catching so much heat for this?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 6: What was he supposed to do? If call a better game?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 5: If Tom Brady is calling Brian Underwood and they are

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Speaker 5: giving him ten million dollars whatever, like Brian Kelly should

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Speaker 5: just throw I mean, he has to throw his hands

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Speaker 5: up and say, what.

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Speaker 3: Do you want from me? Man?

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Speaker 4: More? Eleven eleven is giving the money eleven twelve, that's

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Speaker 4: the thirteen. That's the world and the business we're in.

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Speaker 4: Get it done. I don't want to hear no excuses.

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Speaker 2: The biggest indictment of Ohio State, the biggest indictment of

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Speaker 4: I said, there is no way Ohio State's about to

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Speaker 4: That show that was the only way you can score

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Speaker 4: Shamall Moore, sir, my goodness, sir, to up, my goodness, sir.

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Speaker 3: But that was a huge play.

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Speaker 4: But the Michigan players that stood up today, that that

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Speaker 3: But we're just better than you. We're tougher than you.

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Speaker 4: We're tough for mind it did you and last real

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Speaker 3: Now we're classless because.

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Speaker 4: We're doing what teams do and rivalry games and planned

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: You know, some people gotta they gotta learn how to lose.

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Speaker 4: Man, you can't can't be fighting and stuff just because

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Speaker 3: You know all that fighting. We had sixty minutes. We

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing he's doing things. They've had four quarters,

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Speaker 2: They've had four years to do all that fighting. Dafty

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer, You've got four years for all of that.

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Speaker 3: You know what you got?

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Speaker 4: Boom boom, boom boom, not a zip zilch. Throw it

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Speaker 4: in a trail of downs, transfer junkets, transferred.

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Speaker 3: And transfer just to just to lose his second game

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Speaker 3: Here's the last thing about this.

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Speaker 4: This is what I was trying to impress upon people

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Speaker 4: you just google Ohio State football, now click roster that

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day is forty seven and one.

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Speaker 3: Against unranked the phone.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Days a hell of a football couch and now

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Speaker 2: because of because he cannot get this win, this is

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, can go backwards for ten years,

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Speaker 3: Yeah not Yeah, I take a decade. That's what was

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Speaker 4: That's how long it takes to get back if you

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Speaker 4: because you got Ryan Day, who can't win the big

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Speaker 3: End up with a D minus. Absolutely, And next year

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Speaker 4: And next year we have the number one recruit in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we lose Maason, we lose Graham, but Grant and Graham.

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Speaker 4: But guess what, guys, we got a lot of young

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Speaker 3: I like that. That was very That was very clever.

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Speaker 3: That was very, very clever.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, somebody Dapple Sweeney knows a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a freshman quarterbacks. As Lenora Sellers scored a game

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Speaker 3: There were I called that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: There were other college football games on today besides Michigan

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Speaker 3: So that's why we just did sixteen minutes on it.

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Speaker 2: We will address the rest of the college football playoff

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Speaker 2: picture in just the moment it was. It was anarchy

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Speaker 2: today out there on the grid. Iroon Martin wis Vichahussey,

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Speaker 2: If you want to join the conversation, feel free.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know they do. You can give us a tweet,

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Speaker 3: Shoot us a tweet.

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Speaker 2: I'm on Blue Sky as well, same name, but Martin

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Speaker 2: Weiss for me at Big Vanilla, Funny for VJ, Little Chili.

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Speaker 3: Wren Coombe says.

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Speaker 2: All in the hustle on a Saturday night. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you can talk to talk Homie Michigan wins. We know Houston,

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Speaker 2: Texas is tuning in. Appreciate your pal. Sean Kan eighty six,

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Speaker 2: I'll be tuned in. Glad to have Martin back. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I did miss last week.

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Speaker 4: Got a pretty vicious car accident, but uh everything's good.

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Speaker 4: Good man as the accident was for Ohio State today. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: glad to have you back, though, brother. Have you seen

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Speaker 4: fourteenth and Indy. He's been kind of mile That's what

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Speaker 3: He tweeted me.

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Speaker 2: He tweeted me, but before halftime it was like, I

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Speaker 4: Oh he was, Oh he was, he was copping Please

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Speaker 4: here hold on.

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Speaker 3: He was copping please before the game.

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Speaker 4: Where we go, Here we go, Sucker, here we go Martin,

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Speaker 4: This is Chadden. Since I call on the odd couple

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Speaker 2: And then I responded, and he said, at least a

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're not hating on y'all much respect.

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Speaker 4: Nah no no no, no no no no no no

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Speaker 4: no no no no no. That's not gonna work. That's

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Speaker 4: not gonna work at all. Well, I don't take Coppy, please.

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Speaker 4: Martin's nice, Martin's a nice guy, Mars, I'm not nice.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking none of y'all. Bs.

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Speaker 4: Please don't be tweeting right before that because you saw

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Speaker 3: You've been running your mouth all year. Look, I don't

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Speaker 3: do that. If Michigan lose, they just lose. My squad

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Speaker 4: Look I'm really upset with Mike McDaniel in the way

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Speaker 3: Man, I don't like how this is going.

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Speaker 4: I may be a Dolphin fan, but man, go on,

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Speaker 4: bmb mine please, I'm sorry, Bro, I'm all one today. Dog,

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Speaker 4: I don't like copping.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 4: You run your mouth all year long and then when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very much in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's where That's where I felt the game was kind

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Speaker 4: of bogging down for Ohio State to Buddy and so

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Speaker 4: did you. You could just say, you know what, nice

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Speaker 4: call gentlemen, congrats gentlemen. We don't want none of them

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Speaker 4: fake copping. Please, Bro, please save it.

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Speaker 4: Well, fan base is not satisfied, man, look and they

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Speaker 3: And the thing is my senior year, I said, I

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Speaker 3: say five, just to beat Ohio. Where did you come out?

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Speaker 3: I came though? My last year was.

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Speaker 4: Six and speeding Luke Ficklin sixty six Ohio State. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that was my last what year, iently thirteen? Oh you're

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Speaker 4: graduated thirteen? Okay, So that time period, in that time period,

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Speaker 4: that was Michigan's down moment. Okay, and this is still

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Speaker 4: this is still Brady Holk at the time. But they

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Speaker 4: go and Ohio State comes in. There sites that Don Robinson.

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Speaker 4: No Donard, Yeah, there was no Dannard had gone on

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Speaker 4: to the league A right.

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Speaker 3: It was with Jack. I can't remember because me and

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Speaker 3: donar were the same class. Again, I did a fifth year.

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Speaker 3: So was that Sam McGuffey and those guys. Sam mcguffy

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Speaker 3: and I had several drinks together as frad h word, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you tell some good Michigan stories. You never

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Speaker 4: told that one, though, I mean, you never told me

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Speaker 4: that was Sam McGuffey.

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Speaker 3: Didn't, No, that was he was? He was he was

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Speaker 3: He was a good gadget type of They don't know

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Speaker 3: who Sam McGuffey is.

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Speaker 2: But you probably don't unless you are a diehard college

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Speaker 2: football fan from like ten years ago.

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Speaker 4: YouTube Sam McGuffey was one of the first YouTube recruits.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: His YouTube tube mixtape was insane and he's he was

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Speaker 2: one of the first people to jump over people like

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Speaker 2: with regularity. Now we see Saquon Barkley doing it backwards,

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Speaker 2: but it just.

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Speaker 3: Goes to show you.

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Speaker 2: It's like, do you see the first dunk? Now, all

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Speaker 2: of a suddenybody's dunking behind their back.

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Speaker 4: Sam mc guffy is one of the first people to

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Speaker 4: really consistently hurtle over people.

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Speaker 3: He tried it at Michigan on Never Get on a Kickoff.

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Speaker 4: I was in the stands and there's a picture of

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Speaker 4: me pointing at a concussed Sam McGuffey, like, is he

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Speaker 4: going to have I'll find it during the break.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have that man and frame that bro.

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Speaker 3: I'll find it during the break.

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Speaker 2: But this is the thing about what happened today, especially

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Speaker 2: with Miami losing, Ohio State losing all that, we are

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Speaker 2: seeing Okay, transfer quarterbacks won the Heisman for the longest,

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Speaker 2: but now we're seeing more of.

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Speaker 4: The the more coveted, hot, more highly paid quarterbacks. They're

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Speaker 4: not in conference championship games.

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Speaker 3: Like Miami and Will how Miami and Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: That was the big story this summer. Who's gonna land

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Speaker 4: cam Ward? Who's gonna land Will Howard?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Ohio?

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Speaker 4: They wanted cam more real bad and they didn't get him.

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Speaker 4: They got Will Howd Right. Will Howard was like the

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Speaker 4: consolation prize.

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Speaker 2: Both of those guys super compensated, neither one of them

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Speaker 2: competing for a conference championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, man, It's listen, this is this is

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Speaker 4: the dangers every will say that this isn't the dangers.

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Speaker 3: Off going into the portal four quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It's because when you do go get him, like with Oregon, right,

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Speaker 4: they gonna get Dylan Gabriel, you better win it.

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Speaker 3: Like you better win it. You went to the portal

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Speaker 3: and got a quarterback, you better win it.

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Speaker 4: It's just the way it is. Alabama was on the

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Speaker 4: break to win, to get to a national championship. Homegrown

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Speaker 4: quarterback Michigan won it all last year. Homegoing quarterback Washington

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Speaker 4: went and got a portal guy, got a transit guy.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't They didn't win it.

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Speaker 4: LSU went and got a Howdrod trophy win a portal guy,

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Speaker 4: they didn't win it. The homegrown kids are the ones

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Speaker 4: that you probably want to stick with and grow your

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Speaker 4: own talent at the quarterback position to win a national championship.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point that you bring up.

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Speaker 4: But yesterday's show, I took care I took South Carolina,

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Speaker 4: I took Syracuse, and I took Michigan as my three

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Speaker 4: underdogs to pull off upsets today, and all three of

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Speaker 4: them cashed in and they all catched in with homegrown quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: With the quarterbacks that are there this going into the portal,

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Speaker 4: you gotta be careful with this stuff.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's a no go no. It's obviously

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Speaker 3: it worked for Colorado.

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Speaker 2: But it is not just copy and paste from Kansas

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Speaker 2: State to Ohio State, or for Washington State to Miami.

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Speaker 2: It is simply not just very much in the same way,

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Speaker 2: it is very much not copy and paste. When I

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Speaker 2: get out of the update chair, Steve de Sager sittended,

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Speaker 2: because that is an upgrade that we've seen of nume of.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, if Steve Sager was coach Ohio.

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Speaker 4: State, I'd be scared of, say, this guy in the

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Speaker 4: business's kick it over there for the stuff they guy

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Speaker 4: in the business, I mean it.

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Speaker 9: Let's hit to college. Number one Oregon now leads it home.

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Speaker 9: They're just scored against Washington. That's thirteen to six for

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Speaker 9: the moment is the lead. In the second quarter on

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Speaker 9: FS one, it's tenth ranked Indiana with a dusting of

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Speaker 9: snow on the field. Hoo's yours lead lowly Purdue twenty

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Speaker 9: eight nothing late second quarter. A Purdue loss would put

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Speaker 9: them at one and eleven. Third ranked Texas is playing

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Speaker 9: at Texas A and M. Tonight's winner goes to the

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Speaker 9: SEC championship game against Georgia in Atlanta next Saturday. Texas

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Speaker 9: leads seven nothing over the rival Aggie's as arch Manning

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Speaker 9: came on the field for a run and it was

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Speaker 9: fifteen yards and a touchdown after video review on Fox TV.

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Speaker 9: Top twenty five matchup at Iowa State now has the

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Speaker 9: Cyclones with a field goal, leading ten to seven over

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Speaker 9: Kansas State early in the second quarter, and number twenty

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Speaker 9: two UNLV with a chance to go to six and

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Speaker 9: one in the Mountain West up at home ten to

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Speaker 9: seven over Nevada in the first quarter. Michigan won at

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Speaker 9: number two Ohio State thirteen to ten on a short

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Speaker 9: field goal in the final minute. Fourth ranked Penn State

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Speaker 9: is going to the Big Ten title game against Oregon

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Speaker 9: next Saturday night. Penn State rip Maryland and forty four

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Speaker 9: to seven. Fifth rank Notre Dame now eleven and one

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Speaker 9: after winning at USC forty nine thirty five. The Irish

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Speaker 9: with two pick sixes in the last four minutes ninety

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Speaker 9: nine yards and one hundred yards at Syracuse the Orange

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Speaker 9: Trail number six ranked Miami twenty one nothing in the

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Speaker 9: second quarter. Syracuse wins the game forty two to thirty eight,

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Speaker 9: so Clemson goes to the ACC title game against SMU

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Speaker 9: next Saturday night. Ninth ranked SMU thirty eight six winners

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Speaker 9: against Cal. Clemson, ranked twelfth, did lose at home on

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Speaker 9: a late score by South Carolina seventeen to fourteen. Eighth

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Speaker 9: ranked Tennessee, which was down early, still won at Vanderbilt

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Speaker 9: thirty six twenty three victories for Alabama and Arizona State

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Speaker 9: for Missouri and Illinois as well. The final playoff bracket

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Speaker 9: will be announced a week from tomorrow, Sunday, December the eighth.

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Speaker 9: The Arizona Cardinals gave running back James Connor a two

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Speaker 9: year extension. Washington running back Austin Eckler was placed on

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Speaker 9: injured reserve with a concussion. Chargers running back JK. Dobbin

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Speaker 9: is on IR with a knee injury, and in the

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Speaker 9: NBA Tonight snow Joel Embiid is not playing, but Paul

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Speaker 9: George is and Philadelphia leads at Detroit in the third

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Speaker 9: seventy seven sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thanks Steve Rapid Radios, the official communicat

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Speaker 3: What in the world that word you love? That word?

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Speaker 3: That word? That word? Who's my ass harder than rival? Rival?

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Speaker 3: Ely week? Momentimum? That's mine? Momentimum, Ours and ws are

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Speaker 3: are tough for me. Rival? You know many times I

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Speaker 3: just gave up on rivalry.

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Speaker 4: That one red River rivaly, Yeah they could have red

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Speaker 4: River Showdown was right there.

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Speaker 3: I yet so easy.

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Speaker 2: I get changed his name from shootout, but showdown yeah

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Speaker 2: maybe red River standoff Yep, maybe.

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Speaker 3: No, he's just had another r red River Rivalry.

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Speaker 4: It's just putting broadcasters and everywhere all across America in

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Speaker 4: absolute hell.

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Speaker 3: It got so bad. I was looking up the names

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Speaker 3: of the games.

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Speaker 2: game and so on, but just to not say Rivalry

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Speaker 3: All right, VJ. Well's up. We will be talking sprinkling

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Speaker 3: in college football as we go throughout the rest of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 4: As we look at Texas now with a seven and

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Speaker 4: nothing lead over Texas A and M, the winner of

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Speaker 4: there goes to the SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: We will keep you abreast of all little.

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Speaker 2: Different playoff scenarios and championship game scenarios and everything.

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Speaker 4: But let's go ahead and turn our attentions to the

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Speaker 4: Major League circuit. The professionals here, the Arizona Cardinals and

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Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings in a game that honestly, you look

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Speaker 4: at the records, they oh Arizona six and five, Minnesota

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Speaker 4: nine and two. But this is a game in which

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Speaker 4: there is a massive wild card implications because the Lions

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Speaker 4: seemed like a wagon. Even if they lose a game,

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Speaker 4: they still have one up on Minnesota because the head

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Speaker 4: to head and now obviously Minnesota will play again, but

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Speaker 4: you will see how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: Arizona a top of the division.

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Speaker 4: However, the bottom of the division, I mean the top

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Speaker 4: of the division is like climbing the.

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Speaker 3: Stairs to the second floor, right, it's very quick to

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Speaker 3: go right back down if you're the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it could happen at about a three and

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Speaker 2: a half hour period on a Sunday. Who needs this

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Speaker 2: game more between the Arizona Cardinals and the Minnesota Vika.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is easy for me, mister Cardinals, Mister Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals needs this game more because I think Minnesota

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Speaker 4: just has more weapons and they'll be okay going down

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Speaker 4: the line. I think the Cardinals need this game more

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Speaker 4: because this division is still really tight. And not saying

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Speaker 4: that the Norse Division isn't but division did you say

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Speaker 4: the Norse Division? Yeah, Chris Berman used to call the

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Speaker 4: Chris Berman reference right there for you, young bucker, whose

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Speaker 4: little young mus from hockey it is? But he used

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Speaker 4: to call it Chris Berman. Uh, you know NFL Primetime

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Speaker 4: great with Tom Jackson used to used to call it exactly.

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Speaker 4: He used to call it the Norse Division. So that

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Speaker 4: was just a Chris Berman reference. But the NFC North,

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Speaker 4: I think that division is I think three teams are

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Speaker 4: getting in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They're fine there.

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Speaker 4: This NFC West Division is still nip and tuck, only

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Speaker 4: the division winners getting in. They're not getting a wild

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Speaker 4: card out of this division. So the Cardinals have to

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Speaker 4: continue to keep winning. And the Cardinals still have conference

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Speaker 4: games coming up, so they still have to Seahawks and

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Speaker 4: the Rams. I believe they still have conference games coming up. Sure,

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Speaker 4: so Minnesota two. Yeah, But but I think that division

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Speaker 4: is gonna get three teams in the NFC into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: This this division is only getting one team in.

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Speaker 4: If you look at this division right now, you have

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Speaker 4: Seattle sitting in first place there, the Cardinals are sitting

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Speaker 4: in the second place. You have the Rams, you have

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Speaker 4: the Niners. I think the Rams and the Niners could

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Speaker 4: be done.

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Speaker 7: To me.

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Speaker 4: It's down between Seattle and the Cardinals. So the Cardinals

665
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Speaker 4: need this game definitely a whole lot more than Minnesota does.

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Speaker 4: If you look at their remaining schedule, they have the

667
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Speaker 4: Vikings and then they have the Seahawks, the Patriots, the Panthers,

668
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Speaker 4: the Rams, and the Niners. So their last three weeks

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Speaker 4: in the year, for the last four weeks in the year,

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Speaker 4: they have three conference they have three division games. So

671
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Speaker 4: this is super and uber important for them. I think

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Speaker 4: the Vikings will be fine. They lose this game a Seahawks,

673
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: you never know what you're getting with that team, man.

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Speaker 4: And then they went into be San Francisco a few

675
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Speaker 4: weeks ago. They got to go to the Panthers in

676
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: three weeks. Yeah, the Panthers aren't a great team, but

677
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Speaker 4: Kansas City had to fight to get out of Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Hey, a quick note, b note, both Bryce.

679
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Speaker 4: Young and Anthony Richardson look significantly better after watching from

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Speaker 4: the sidelines for a couple of games.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the NFL doesn't have a development problem. Maybe the

682
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: NFL just needs to take a second and let guys,

683
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of take.

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Speaker 3: They have a rush problem.

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Speaker 4: They have a rush problem, though, Mark and is because

686
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: in all honestly, it's us, man, it's us.

687
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Speaker 3: It's the fans, it's the fans, it's the media.

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Speaker 4: It's that we put a lot of pressure on these

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Speaker 4: teams and these franchises, and coaches get fired, you know,

690
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: players get bitched, and it all works together. That's what

691
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: makes football so beautiful. Mark, Honestly, man, it's all mixed

692
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: in together. People think, oh, no, coaches, you're thinking owner

693
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Speaker 4: cares with the fans.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they do. Well, that's they do, guys. That's why

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Speaker 3: not to me.

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Speaker 2: That's why that offseason Hard Knocks was great. You literally

697
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Speaker 2: saw and a clip that Joe Shane will never forget.

698
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Speaker 2: You literally saw John Marr saying Saquon is by far

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Speaker 2: our most popular player. Yeah, we cannot lose him. The

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Speaker 2: fans will revolve, sure enough.

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Speaker 3: But they'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: But they'll tell you, Martin that the owners and the

703
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Speaker 4: gms and the vps they don't care what the fans.

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Speaker 3: You think they care what they say on Twitter, VJ.

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Speaker 4: Yes they do, because it drives the needle, it drives

706
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Speaker 4: the money. Social media is powerful, people say, it's super powerful.

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: Not necessarily what one person says now, but when you

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Speaker 4: have a sweeping sentiment, yes, very much like I could

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00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: think of a similar scenario, the sweetpeak sentiment traveling through

710
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: Columbus Ohio right now, as hint as the entire place

711
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: is claiming for calling for Ryan days Head, it's something

712
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: very similar to that feeling. But you have the money

713
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Speaker 4: people too, like on to college that you got the

714
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: money people, and the money people put pressure on you too.

715
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Speaker 3: So the outside voices.

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Speaker 2: Do match her period to the point of the NFL

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Speaker 2: game where we're talking about the Cardinals and the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I think the Cardinals need it because this very well

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Speaker 2: could be your first.

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Speaker 3: Round home playoff game. M Oh, yeah, you're right, this

721
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Speaker 3: very well could be your right. You're right.

722
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: You got to go out there and show you can

723
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Speaker 2: handle the blind Flores defense. And we know Sham Darnold

724
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: is not necessarily a top of the line, top tier quarterback.

725
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Speaker 3: He's playing great.

726
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Dish year historically shows something different. You want to be

727
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Speaker 2: able to go out there establish yourself against this team.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big moment for Arizona, especially because

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: they can't afford to lose a game and maintain that's

730
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Speaker 2: a one big league that NFC West, that's the only

731
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Speaker 2: on the team, so it's got to be it's going

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Speaker 2: to be obviously.

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Speaker 3: The team that wins.

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Speaker 4: You know why this game is also so big too.

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Speaker 4: Seattle also goes on the road tomorrow for a ten

736
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Speaker 4: am start. You guys, look up the record of West

737
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Speaker 4: Coast teams that have to go play that one pm kickoff,

738
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Speaker 4: which is ten am out here.

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Speaker 3: It's a different thing, guys.

740
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: Your body's just not Sometimes it takes a minute for

741
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: those guys to wake up and for them to get going.

742
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Speaker 3: So you got two NFC West teams flying out east

743
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: to play ten am starts.

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Speaker 4: Huge for both these teams tomorrow, and I agree with

745
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Speaker 4: you that you gotta go get this one on the road.

746
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: I don't think they will, but this could be a

747
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: first round playoff game. If you're the Vikings and say

748
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: you win by twenty tomorrow, are you are you afraid

749
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Speaker 4: of going into Arizona for a wildcard game?

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Speaker 3: They may have won the division, but who gives it?

751
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 8: Who?

752
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly, So let's do this for you think they

753
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: should receive playoffs? Right? I think I've heard you say

754
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: that before. Right, let's say it. Let's spend thirty seconds

755
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: here because we don't have this game on the round.

756
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Speaker 2: The Jets had a tumultuous and I think it's the best,

757
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Speaker 2: most generous.

758
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Speaker 3: Reading of it.

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Speaker 4: The week before Thanksgiving, to the point that I'm to

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Speaker 4: the point I'm reading these stories, I'm like, do they

761
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Speaker 4: they still have to play games?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like they still have to

764
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Speaker 4: play games? To the point that sad. Last Saturday, I

765
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Speaker 4: was thinking of coming in the topic. You know, Jim

766
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: Harvey say, who's got better than us? Who's got it worse?

767
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Speaker 4: The Jets are the giants?

768
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Speaker 3: Right?

769
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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: That was the topic.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, Yeah, right, so do the Jets because

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Speaker 4: we both thought after Kansas City blocked the field goal

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Speaker 4: in Denver that Denver, that's a moment you could fold

774
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: or you could rally. We both thought Denver would rally.

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Speaker 4: The Jets I think have had. They are in the

776
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Speaker 4: same moment a fold, a rally.

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Speaker 3: Done.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna lose tomorrow. Done, I think so done, done, done,

779
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Speaker 4: done done. Aaron Rodgers already talking about whether I'm gonna

780
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Speaker 4: play next year. If not, are gonna be for done.

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Speaker 4: They're over by mass Jets.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's a question to some, especially Steve Hartman and our

785
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Speaker 3: producer Ian Me and VJ, are curious as to what

786
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Speaker 3: in the hell a y'all watching on Saturdays.

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Speaker 2: We'll break that down coming up next morning, White Feature Husky,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Football.

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Speaker 3: Saturday, Go blow.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: You've never heard this song before?

792
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Speaker 4: What is this?

793
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: Last time? I got under that missile?

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Speaker 10: Toe with you?

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Speaker 3: What in the hell is this? When is Sam? What

796
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: kind of Christmas song is? I should like the party? Deep?

797
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Speaker 3: And why do you know all the words?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Imagine everybody dancing? It makes you want to kiss somebody.

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Speaker 3: This is the missile.

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Speaker 11: And I like.

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Speaker 3: It. Stop laughing to the mistle to Jim, wait for

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Speaker 3: the missile to everybody kiss somebody.

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Speaker 4: Well, wow, I've never heard this before. I've and I know, Chris,

805
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Speaker 4: I've never heard this before. That's good, you got me.

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Speaker 4: That's so good romance. Hey, Martin's never saying He's never

807
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Speaker 4: saying this much on Live Era ever, ever, did you?

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming Periods played this a lot.

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Speaker 5: It also doesn't roll through to the podcast, so the

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Speaker 5: podcast listeners are just.

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Speaker 6: Getting straight Martin singing there's no word that beautiful.

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Speaker 4: That maatful, Yes, giving now and I'm glad you that's dope.

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: So now people are gonna be like, what is Martin doing?

814
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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Luther Vandros you remind me when just your

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Speaker 4: whole head Bob right there, all I can see is

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Speaker 4: Rick Rubin.

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Speaker 3: If you know who.

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Speaker 4: Rick Rubin is one of the founding members form the

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Speaker 4: founding fathers of Deaf Jam Records.

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Speaker 3: He's saying that because you're white looking at him on.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's not the only reason. That's the Missiletoe

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Speaker 2: Jam by Luther Vandross. I honestly wouldn't have kept it

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Speaker 2: going that long. I'm shocked you had never heard that

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Speaker 2: song wow, And if I have, I just don't remember it.

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Speaker 3: But wow that word for word, man, like wow, last

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Speaker 3: time I got on the Missile t with you.

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Speaker 4: Man, listen, listening Being Crosby and the Temptations Christmas was

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Speaker 4: on repeat, and Shirley Caesar's Christmas album. Like any religious

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Speaker 4: my grandmother was very very spiritual religious. So being at

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Speaker 4: her house Shirley Caesar, Being Crosby and the and the

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Speaker 4: Temptations that was.

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Speaker 3: On read it was on loop. She wasn't going it

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Speaker 3: was there was not been going for the miss second remusic. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not at all.

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Speaker 4: My grandmother, Amry Spearman, who is still a loveyck and

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Speaker 4: she would have never played that song.

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Speaker 3: Get her Maya's let.

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Speaker 6: Us know by Boys to Men. It's only because of

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Speaker 6: the fresh Princi bel.

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Speaker 3: Air that episode for Nikki's christening.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, that song is dope though, But if you

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Speaker 4: got that one, played that one later, I'll sing Martin sung.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll say. I'll say this.

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Speaker 4: Though, because there's one thing that is not a doubt,

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Speaker 4: just like the Miss Jam is in fact the jam.

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Speaker 4: To me, there's no doubt that Travis Hunter is the

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Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy winner. It is just yet to be handed

848
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Speaker 4: off yet. The thing that concerns me, though, VJ is

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Speaker 4: Steve Hartman has the show before us, and he is.

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Speaker 4: You know, he may not have heard he has a

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Speaker 4: Heisman vote.

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Speaker 3: Does he? He still is yet to go ahead and admit,

853
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: but we all know.

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Speaker 4: And I'm having a conversation, you know, pre show turns

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Speaker 4: out our producers one of them, Wow, explain yourself.

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Speaker 10: Uh, they're both I don't think I deserve that man,

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Speaker 10: all right, well I could tell it. I'd actually hurt

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Speaker 10: his feelings.

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Speaker 3: What you just said that. He didn't like that, didn't

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Speaker 3: like that. No, but they're both super deserving.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like, regardless, this year, we're gonna get

862
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Speaker 5: like a historic snub because both guys are so deserving

863
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Speaker 5: that I feel like, whoever doesn't get it, it's gonna

864
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Speaker 5: be like one of the biggest snubs ever, like that,

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Speaker 5: like one of the most deserving Heisman candidates to never

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Speaker 5: actually get it.

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Speaker 3: To be clear, you're talking about Jancy versus.

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Speaker 5: Versus only to Ashton Genty. I saw a graphic on

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Speaker 5: Fox the other night. Look, this is the last three

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Speaker 5: running backs that have won the Heisman, Derrick Henry, mark Ingram,

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Speaker 5: and Reggie Bush. Now, if you compare Genty' stats to

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Speaker 5: these guys yards per rush, Derrick Henry had six point one,

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Speaker 5: mark Ingram had six point eight, Reggie Bush had eight

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Speaker 5: point six, which is absurd. Genty had seven point five.

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Speaker 6: This season.

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Speaker 5: Okay, rush yards, Henry had fifteen, twenty six, Ingram had

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Speaker 5: one thousand, three hundred ninety nine, and Bush had one thousand,

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Speaker 5: three hundred ninety eight genty two thousand, sixty two. For

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Speaker 5: looking at touchdowns, Henry had twenty one, Ingram had twelve,

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Speaker 5: Reggie Bush had thirteen. Genty has twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Now do interceptions, Yeah, well that's the problem.

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Speaker 6: But that and it's valid.

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Speaker 3: It's valid.

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Speaker 5: But if you think about it, like when is when

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Speaker 5: is defense ever played into the Heisman before? And I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying we shouldn't count Yeah and recent recent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean whin had recent lea? When have we

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Speaker 3: seen the guy playing?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 5: I hate that this debate has to come down to

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Speaker 5: tearing down the other guy to build the other guy up.

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Speaker 3: They're both so deserving. I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 3: that's what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: But also I'll give you another stud that I saw too,

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Speaker 4: Ian jump in on it. I just want to bounce

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Speaker 4: back on this with the Heisman thing really quick. Could

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Speaker 4: it possibly end up? Do you think we could see

914
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Speaker 4: Cole Heisman Trophy winners? No, we've seen coning. We see

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Speaker 4: Cole rookie of the years before in the NBA, Jason Kidd,

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Speaker 4: Grant Hill, Like, I don't think it would be much

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Speaker 4: of an outrage.

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Speaker 3: I can see both these men up on the podium and.

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Speaker 4: They bring out the second trophy from the beat because

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00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 4: they already know who won, right they already know that

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Speaker 4: de votes accounting. Wait before the ceremony, they already know

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Speaker 4: who one. I'm just I'm just kind of I'm just.

923
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Speaker 1: Throwing it out.

924
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: If we have dual, im gonna be literally furious.

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Speaker 5: It just set such a slippery slope and precedent because

926
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Speaker 5: then whenever in the future you have two guys who

927
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Speaker 5: are remotely close, there's gonna be such a debate.

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Speaker 3: Both of them.

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Speaker 4: They did it with Travis No, no, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: and just last real quick, I'm with you a little.

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Speaker 4: I I am with you a little. I think I

932
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Speaker 4: think Travis Hunters the Heisman. I just don't think the

933
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Speaker 4: separation is as big as maybe Martin and maybe some

934
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Speaker 4: other people think this year that Jent's having He's all

935
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Speaker 4: they have. Yeah, and you know he's getting the ball

936
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Speaker 4: and there's nothing you can do about it. I think

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Speaker 4: I think Travis Hunters the Heisman winner, but I think

938
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Speaker 4: it's closer. I think it's a lot closer. And I

939
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Speaker 4: think we're gonna see that in the voting. If there

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see that voting.

941
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Speaker 3: If there was an MVP for college football, I'll probably

942
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Speaker 3: give it. But that is not what the Heisman is

943
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: supposed to be.

944
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Speaker 4: And he's probably gonna win. There is an award like that, right,

945
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Speaker 4: there's somebody that wins, like the National Player of the Year.

946
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Speaker 5: You mean, like if there was like an Offensive Player

947
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Speaker 5: of the Year. Because I feel like the Heisman is

948
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Speaker 5: kind of the MVP.

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Speaker 4: No, the Heisman is supposed to the heights, supposed to

950
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: be the best player, best player, just the best player.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of what the MVP's turned into, right.

952
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's not, though, like the best player in

953
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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Quite Like if we if we were to do that,

955
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Speaker 2: then Tom Brady would have eighteen MVP awards. Lebron would

956
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: have had nine straight MVP awards. The best player is

957
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Speaker 2: not always the most valuable player.

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Speaker 4: The MVP, in my opinion, NFL doesn't go to the

959
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: best player Lamar like I love I love l Jackson,

960
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: love him.

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Speaker 3: He's two time MVP. I don't know if I don't

962
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: think Lamar Jackson is the best player in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It's just his value to his team, his team was

964
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Speaker 4: greater than the value of anybody else was to their team.

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Speaker 4: Like the year Marshall Fulk won it, he was the

966
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Speaker 4: best player in the NFL. You get that sometimes, like

967
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Speaker 4: the year Peyton Manny won MVP. Peyton man wasn't the

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Speaker 4: best player in the NFL. He's just the you know,

969
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Speaker 4: he's Payton manning for the Colts, and he's the biggest

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Speaker 4: man to team Legitimately. The question that we have for

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Speaker 4: this segment right here, right now is the MVP at stake,

972
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Speaker 4: and the question is between Seke Kwon Barker and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: Incredible transition, but.

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Speaker 4: Does anybody would anybody have them as the best player

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. I think they're they're high on a

976
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Speaker 4: short list, but best Yeah. No, listen, man, you know

977
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Speaker 4: what's so interesting about this question.

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Speaker 3: We could be talking.

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Speaker 4: About four guys, right We could be talking about four guys,

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00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: and I think Hurts would be four.

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Speaker 3: But Lamar.

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Speaker 4: Do him in order them if you have Hurts forth

983
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Speaker 4: and do it, do him in order then, because I

984
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Speaker 4: think you okay, that's just that's just a strong point.

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Speaker 4: It is okay. So right now, I would say Hurts

986
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Speaker 4: us fourth. I would say a third would be King Henry,

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Speaker 4: and I would say second. Surprisingly the many would be

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Speaker 4: l Jackson. And I think Saquon Barkley is in the

989
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Speaker 4: clubhouse right now as the leader of the m v

990
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Speaker 4: P because we already know what Lamar means to his team,

991
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: We already know what Derrick Henry has meant to Baltimore.

992
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: But I don't think anybody could have saw what what

993
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: what Saquan is doing and what he's done. And when

994
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: I was at the game covering the Rams and the Eagles,

995
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Speaker 4: I asked Jalen Hurts, what does it feel like to

996
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: have a guy like Saquon back there and take such

997
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: a load off of You've seen Fresher At this point,

998
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: of the year. If you could have saw the look

999
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: in that man's face when I asked that question to him,

1000
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: it was like he didn't have to answer. The look

1001
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 4: that he gave the room was life. Man, he goes,

1002
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: I got a lot more time on that back end.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that right now. So that means

1004
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: play action. So he gets play action. He's got plenty

1005
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 3: of time plus to find this guy all the read

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Speaker 3: options too.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's Sa Kwan And I'm not

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Speaker 4: victor victim of the moment and none of that.

1009
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Speaker 3: I'm just putting the film on man.

1010
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Speaker 4: What he's meant two fifty five, the way he did

1011
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: that against on Sunday Night football against the Rams, just

1012
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: what he's meant to that team. I would put him

1013
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: in the clubhouse. But I think L Jacks is right

1014
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: behind him. Derek Henry third, Jalen Hurts fourth.

1015
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Speaker 5: You know what's an interesting thing though, to bring up

1016
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: about that With the four guys that you just named,

1017
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 5: they're all from two different teams, so it's the Eagles

1018
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 5: and Ravens, and they're the top four candidates in your mind,

1019
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: Can they really be that a valuable to their team

1020
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: if someone else who's also one of the foremost valuable

1021
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 5: players in the league is on their team as well.

1022
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 6: Does that make sense?

1023
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's brought was in winning MVPs with the heat.

1024
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: Well it's also to it's the same just to just

1025
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: go ahead and just mix it up, throw it in

1026
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: the under and press puree. Same deal with UH with Colorado,

1027
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: like Shador, Sanders is incredibly important to that team, and

1028
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: without him, they're they're probably five hundred, right, they probably

1029
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: have five hundred team maybe below.

1030
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's the best player on the team,

1031
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But he's incredibly valuable. You know,

1032
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: it's very much the same. There's the same fruit to

1033
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: the same tree.

1034
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: Remember Kurt Warner won an MVP, Marshall Fault won an

1035
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: MVP the year before, same backfield, and that's what Isaiah

1036
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: Kiem and Isaac Bruce and Tory Hope by the way,

1037
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: two of those other names I just named Hall of

1038
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: Fame receivers, so you could throw that out there. But

1039
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: Peyton mannon one, he had Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison

1040
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: and Joseph Die and Edrin James the handleball, I mean definitely,

1041
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: you know, and there were years where.

1042
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: People thought, hey, Edww James the MVP. Look what Edward

1043
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: James does for the coach.

1044
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: He has six hundred yards receiving and fifteen hundred yards rushing.

1045
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: But who got the MVP? Peyton Man.

1046
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: I do think that right now as this dand Sakuon

1047
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: Barkley should be the lead for MVP. I imagine that

1048
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: a quarterback will overtake him by the time this is

1049
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: all said and done, But right now Sakuon should be

1050
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: the leader in the clubhouse because that Philly team. There

1051
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: were two NFC collapses last year, yep, all right. One

1052
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 4: of them was the Philadelphia Eagles started out ten and one.

1053
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: But never felt great. Remember they had I remember I

1054
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: was banging on at their ten and one and you're

1055
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: looking at me like, hurts got hurt, Hurts got hurt

1056
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: their mission field goals, as you know.

1057
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: And then just a weird.

1058
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: Do we really like Sirianni even though he's got a

1059
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: great winning percentage? Like a very odd situation with all

1060
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: of it right, ends up culminating in a playoff game

1061
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay in which they looked like they had

1062
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: no interest in going like they treated that Tampa That

1063
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 4: Tampa game like it was a connection flight from Philly

1064
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: to Tampa to k.

1065
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Speaker 3: They're dragged their team there, drag their team there. Yeah.

1066
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: So then we also same division, NFC East, saw a

1067
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Speaker 2: collapse in the postseason for the Dallas Cowboys. Right give

1068
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: up half a million yards to Aaron Jones rushing Dak

1069
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: throws two first half interceptions. They finished the second half better,

1070
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter by that.

1071
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: Point, as ugly as the first half was thirty one

1072
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: six of the half or something crazy like that. What's

1073
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: the biggest difference between the Eagles and the Cowboys right here,

1074
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 4: right now, It's what Howie Roseman did in the offseason

1075
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 4: going Againstkwon Barker.

1076
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Speaker 1: That's it.

1077
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 4: Of sensibly, these are are a lot of the same teams.

1078
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: I know, they both have new defensive coordinators. Philly made

1079
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: some new they got they drafted some guys on the

1080
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball, like and Mitchell the cornerbacks,

1081
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: and they got the guy Zach Bond who was a

1082
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: Saints rotational linebacker who's playing a ton of great snaps

1083
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: for them now. But that's the difference right there. It's

1084
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: the off season team building that the Philly did, and

1085
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: that's why they're in the position right now. They're basically

1086
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: in the same spot they were this time last year.

1087
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: But this time last year, nobody was saying this is

1088
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 4: an MVP on the roster at all. Nobody was saying

1089
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: that it was.

1090
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: All about how the Eagles are getting lucky falling through

1091
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: the cracks this, that, and the third and not paying

1092
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: attention to details. Saquon Barkley, very much like a great safety,

1093
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: can eliminate some of your bad corner plays, bad linebacker play.

1094
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley is eliminated all concerns of the Philly offensive line,

1095
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: almost all concerns about the Philly quarterback play if you

1096
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: had those concerns, because he's a locked three yards four.

1097
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: Yards of cara, yeah, four or five yards of care

1098
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: with Saquon also brought to I thought he brought like

1099
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: a running toughness back. Now remember Swift was just a

1100
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: running back there. Who is uh, you know doing I

1101
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: guess he's doing well, doing okay, doing good. In Chicago,

1102
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: he was a high pick. He was drafted by the

1103
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: Lions in the first or second round.

1104
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: Those guys that really.

1105
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 4: Got exactly one of those Georgia guys that we love

1106
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: the Georgia running backs, but also does too as he

1107
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: opens up the passing game. So it's not just running

1108
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: the ball. Because the game we had two fifty five,

1109
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: he also had almost fifty yards receiving the game, so

1110
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 4: he's helping with the passing game along with the rushing

1111
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: attack that they have.

1112
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: Also, speaking about that Philly.

1113
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: Defense, you guys have to you know, some of the

1114
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 4: numbers I just memorized by covering the team and covering

1115
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: the game is that that passing defense was horrific last year.

1116
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: They're the number one passing defense in the league.

1117
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: Right now.

1118
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: They only give up about a buck seventy something through

1119
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: the air buck eighty something through there.

1120
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: You can't throw the ball on him. Conversely, on Baltimore

1121
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: you can throw a party exactly. And that defensive beat well,

1122
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: you know, well.

1123
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 4: That into it will tell Justin Herbert that because he

1124
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: couldn't throw the ball off, tell Jimmy to let's open

1125
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: this thing up, and you need some receivers. Yer, La

1126
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: mccacky is your best guy, okay. And if and you

1127
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: and I just to flip just the sidebar real quick,

1128
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: you and I have been banging. I was one of

1129
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 4: the first ones I told you guys about Quint Johnson

1130
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 4: coming out of tc just put the TCU tape on. Guys,

1131
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: I just don't see it. I don't I see Dwayne Jerrett.

1132
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: You're a USC guy. Uh, but I don't know if

1133
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 4: you're old enough to remember a receiver by the name

1134
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 4: of Dwayne Jerrett who was very similar to him. That

1135
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: was kind of a one trick pony in college. You

1136
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: could just say, Okay, when you get to the league,

1137
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: you better learn how to run routes and do a

1138
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: little more than what you're doing in college, because in

1139
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: the NFL, those lanes close up real fast, those corners

1140
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: stick to you, and those safeties cover the field.

1141
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 3: This is the game.

1142
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: There's a few other games on the on the on

1143
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 4: the slate tomorrow, but this is the one that you

1144
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: sit back, man, go get yourself alf saying, which are

1145
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: a grinder wherever you live or a hogy wherever you

1146
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: live in the in the in the world, and sit back.

1147
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: Would you either get a crab cakerambo sauce or for

1148
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: this game for this game is either a gyro cheesecake

1149
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: or crab cake and wings, fried rice and mambo sauce.

1150
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 7: For this game.

1151
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Ultimately, though I would have to go ahead and put

1152
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: my uh if I were to bet on this.

1153
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm not betting on this, just to be clear, because

1154
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: we will do that at the top of the next hour.

1155
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: Even though little lot of NFL games already played. I

1156
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: know we've already been four games.

1157
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: Man to talk, maybe willing to do two dogs? Yeah,

1158
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: nothing nothing left on the boat. Now we know we

1159
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: gotta do our three. Last week was hard. You missed

1160
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: last week? Last week was hard? Arnie went and eight.

1161
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: I know it was hard for three atom mcdogs and

1162
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: oh for five.

1163
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Months, he's terrible. Toby's listening.

1164
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: I anchored their show, Arnie and Plank on Sunday the

1165
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: next day. Okay, and Arnie was was pleased to find

1166
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: out that he had hit a single pick. He was,

1167
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: I do God anyway, No, we gotta do our three.

1168
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: Man.

1169
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: When weeks it's tough, we fight through and make the picks. Man.

1170
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: I had to go with Lamar Jackson in the Baltimore

1171
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: Ravens here.

1172
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: Well, it's the thing is, it's in Baltimore, so you

1173
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: have the home field, say Kwan man.

1174
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: I just it's.

1175
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: I just this kid's gonna make He's gonna make plays.

1176
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry does have these games where he can't do

1177
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: much for about two quarters, two and a half quarters,

1178
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: and then boom, he busts one. That's just kind of

1179
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: how Derek Henry's been running this year. And then he's

1180
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: got games where he's just tearing guys up the whole game.

1181
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: But I think this Philly defense, this Philly defense is

1182
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 4: much better than it was last year. Carter Nakobe Dean,

1183
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: like as I mentioned, already have the number one pass

1184
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: defense that back end. They're great on dird down there,

1185
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: top ten third down conversion defensive team. So they get

1186
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: off the field, they stop you, they put you in

1187
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: third and long, they get off the field and then

1188
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 4: you get a ball back to Jalen hurt. And also

1189
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: to remember they also played with Nodvontae Smith in that

1190
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: RAM game on Sunday night last week, so there's no

1191
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: Defonte Smith there either, so you.

1192
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: Start to get all your weapons back.

1193
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: This offense just really hums man when Jalen doesn't have

1194
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: to show to the load. Saying with Lamarto Lamar, it

1195
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: is the first year in his career he has not

1196
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: had to lead the Ravens in Russian, first time in

1197
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 4: his career. Coming up next, I think there's a very

1198
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: special matchup coming up on Sunday that will will The

1199
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 4: team on the field I think is way more talented

1200
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: than their opponent, but on the sidelines, the less talented

1201
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: team has a coach does laps around the other team's coach.

1202
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: What wins out coaching or talent in this matchup? Will

1203
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: break that down. Coming up next Martin White's VJ Husky

1204
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Football Saturday.

1205
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: Well listen.

1206
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: I know that it's Thanksgiving week and there's been football

1207
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: on since Wednesday, right, but there has been football fans,

1208
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio Sunday morning,

1209
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: beginning at ten am Eastern seven am Pacific for Countdown

1210
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM, Brian Know, Jeff Schwartz,

1211
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: and professional better Bill.

1212
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: Krackenberger will have you covered three hours before kickoff.

1213
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: Every Sunday morning, listen to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

1214
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: bet MGM right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

1215
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. And I can only imagine, you know, because

1216
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure you've listened to this show in

1217
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: the past, you know, with Jeff and Bill Krackenberger, especially.

1218
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: Ryan does this thing too. I'm not trying to downplay it.

1219
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: But in a short on a short slate, the amount

1220
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: of props that these guys are gonna have is gonna

1221
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: be special. Yeah, So tune into that Sunday morning, ten

1222
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 4: am Eastern, seven am Pacific.

1223
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: Countdown to kickoff right now. Martin Weis's VJ Husky. I'm

1224
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: at Martin Weiss on social media. BJ's at the Big

1225
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: Vanilla Funny as we come to you live from the

1226
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: tire rack dot com studios. If you want to join

1227
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: the show, the best way to do it send us

1228
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 2: a tweet or a Blue Sky or DM or whatever.

1229
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: Get in touch social media. It's all the same for

1230
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: me on all the platforms, and the same for VJ

1231
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: as well. AFC North Upsar go ahead.

1232
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I didn't know we were gonna read

1233
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: a tweet right now, Umber one, Yeah, there was one

1234
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: I did want to reach out to read to.

1235
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: Somebody talked about Michigan, and there it is, David B. Bell.

1236
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: I hope you're still listening, Tobody. You know we love you.

1237
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: I know you're listening all the time.

1238
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: He goes both teams and he added this to me,

1239
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: said both teams should be suspended for postseason competition of

1240
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: any kind of season.

1241
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: Ohio State needs.

1242
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: To review their security protocol because they clearly didn't know

1243
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 4: what to do. So let's get this real straight, real fast. Okay,

1244
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of angles. I've seen about there's

1245
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: about twenty to fifteen videos out, fifty to twenty videos

1246
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 4: out there people that were on the field.

1247
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: This This really was nothing, guys, It really this is

1248
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: a rivalry game. It's heated.

1249
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: You know why Ohio State are sores losers and acted

1250
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: the way they acted because they know what this meant.

1251
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: They know why they came there. Think about guys that

1252
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: came back that could have went and got drafted and

1253
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: came back to lose this game.

1254
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: You gotta caught the interception in the end exactly. You

1255
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: gotta understand what this meant to those guys.

1256
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 4: So I understand them getting upset that they planted the

1257
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: flag there and all that, but to start fighting and

1258
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: taking the flag and running away.

1259
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: With it and slamming on the ground doing all of that,

1260
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: to me was just.

1261
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: Extra corny and it showed the culture that's there because,

1262
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 4: as I said before, Texas planned their flag right in

1263
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 4: the middle of the block and back in September and

1264
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: now on one Michigan player cried about it.

1265
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: We got our asses kicked today. This is what happens

1266
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: in college football.

1267
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: This is what happens when you have young grown men

1268
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: and testostero and adrenaline and passion and energy and heat

1269
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: it heat it insides.

1270
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 3: Okay, this is what the hell happens. Man For people

1271
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: that's like, oh my god, they're so classless. They won

1272
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: the game. Why did you have to do Baker Mayfield

1273
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: did it?

1274
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: Do you guys not remember Baker Manfield took that Oklahoma

1275
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: flag and stuck it in the middle of.

1276
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: Bat Oh, Texas did it to Michigan this year.

1277
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: It's a year just in Mber this year. I didn't

1278
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: hear nobody call it Texas class list. No, you don't

1279
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: suspend people now as far as the security team.

1280
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: Goes funny thing is go ahead, just beend Michigan from

1281
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: postseason plays right.

1282
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: Exactly like we don't like we want to go to

1283
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: the pinch to the new era Pinch Strike Bowl in

1284
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium. But another thing about the security and this

1285
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: is just the realness of it that people just don't understand.

1286
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: On want to make these officers, these these workers, guys,

1287
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 4: they're all.

1288
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: In Columbus, they're allm Columbus.

1289
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 4: You think that they you think that they were there

1290
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: really pushing Go go back and watch the videos. What

1291
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: players are they pushing back?

1292
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: More? Where did they start spraying mace? First?

1293
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 4: They started spraying mace at the Michigan players. Okay, so

1294
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: the security don't need to be trained. They knew exactly

1295
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: what they were doing. You have Ohio State players grabbing

1296
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: the equipment. Guys, it's slamming them on the ground for Michigan.

1297
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 4: So I had nothing to do with ud as they're

1298
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 4: showing the video right now, there's literally Ohio State players

1299
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 4: pushing Michigan like workers are. And whether they're coaches, assistants

1300
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: or whatever on the sideline, nobody needs to be suspended.

1301
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: Guys. This is the rivalry. It's heated.

1302
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 4: Punches got thrown, people got pushed. It doesn't matter. It's okay,

1303
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: it's over. We're moving on to the next week. This

1304
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: happens all the time in this rivalry.

1305
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: It's not new. Let's move on to the NFL.

1306
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: Because I was setting it up that Cincinnati Bengals to

1307
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 4: me offensively, especially more talented than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1308
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: Were you listening to the show yesterday? This sounds like

1309
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: go ahead though, this is a good question, man, but

1310
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: I felt like, yeah, go go, go go.

1311
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers, while nothing, is not necessarily as

1312
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: talented as the Cincinnati Bengals. To me, the coaching comparison here,

1313
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 4: Sharon Moore to Ryan Dayton, I'm just guys, the coach

1314
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: in comparison though, is uh it is the top floor

1315
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 4: to the basement. When you consider Mike Tomlin and his

1316
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: ability and his record and his track record and his

1317
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: ability to just draw juice from a stone, it feels

1318
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: like draw blood from a stone out of that Steelers roster.

1319
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: Do you think that this Zach Taylor is he able

1320
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: to hang in the a FC North Because the other thing, too,

1321
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: is the fancy's pretty good himself. It's funny you bring

1322
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 4: this question up, and this is on the rundown because

1323
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: already and I did a segment yesterday about what coaches

1324
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: could be fired next after Matt Eberflus, and we had

1325
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: a list of teams. I had about three or four guys.

1326
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: One of my teams was the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, one

1327
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: of my teams with the Cincinnati Bengals. If listen, if

1328
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: they say they just fall apart, there.

1329
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: Would a four seven right now, four four and seven. Well,

1330
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: you say fall apart, they've been hanging on by three.

1331
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1332
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: So if they fall apart going into the to the

1333
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: end of the season, right why not have a discussion

1334
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: of hey, do we need to get a do we

1335
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: need to get a different guy in here? Because you're

1336
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: you're kind of wasted. I don't like the phrase wasting

1337
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 4: the player, but you're all.

1338
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: Kind of wasting Borrow right now.

1339
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: And he's young, he's already faced some injuries. He's been

1340
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 4: healthy this year. He's got through this far this season.

1341
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: But if you can't get to the playoffs.

1342
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: This year, think about it. Since they won the super Bowl,

1343
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: I mean got to the Super Bowl. Since they got

1344
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, they're going backwards, guys, They're going backwards.

1345
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 4: They got back to another AFC championship game. Then it

1346
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: was a divisional game, then it was a wildcard game.

1347
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: Now it's going to be out of the playoffs. They're

1348
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: going backwards. We're going backwards. I think that's a topic

1349
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: that no one's touched and talked about the coach. No

1350
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 4: one's touch. Do you have to start to have some

1351
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 4: discussions about whether you want to bring back Zach Taylor?

1352
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: Is bellet?

1353
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: Would Belichick be interested? Would you want to talk there?

1354
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: You know Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator from the Detroit Liane,

1355
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: would you want to kind of? But you got to

1356
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: get somebody in there that's gonna be able to produce

1357
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: with this team and put him together. He's supposed to

1358
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 4: be a defensive guy. Their defense stinks, but the offense

1359
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 4: seven's fine, though, Zach Taylor's Offensiveuy, I'm sorry, offensive guy,

1360
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: but he did I thought, I'm sorry. I thought he

1361
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 4: coached on the defensive side of the ball At one

1362
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: point I looking up. But the thing that is the

1363
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: thing that bothers me the most out of all this

1364
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 4: is there's once you become the head coach, there's no

1365
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: longer there should be I should say, no longer conversation

1366
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: of oh, is he an offensive guy? Is he a

1367
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: defensive guy?

1368
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: He's in charge? You hate that he's in charge. There

1369
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: should be no more conversation, all, well, you know you

1370
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: gotta have it off that. No, he's in charge, he's

1371
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell at offensive coaching defensive coach. I don't damn know.

1372
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Speaker 3: Oh I know, is he hires good assistance.

1373
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: He played tight end, but he feels like he feels

1374
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: like more of a defensive guy even though he played

1375
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: tight end though, Right.

1376
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 5: But.

1377
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: Tomlin was you know, twenty years ago. Sure, he was

1378
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator at Minnesota. But today, in today's day

1379
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: and age, I think he's got a strategy to win

1380
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: football game that he implements. Ady Reid, Is he a

1381
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: defensive head coach? Because wall I see out of Kansas

1382
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 4: City right now is we're.

1383
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: Gonna limit turnovers, We're gonna keep the ball, we're gonna

1384
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: play good defense, and we're gonna beat.

1385
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: You nineteen to fourteen. But that's how Kansas City. It's

1386
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Andy Reid's the defensive coach. No, no, But he's got spags.

1387
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: He's not a defensive coach, but he's got SPI's got

1388
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: one of the best defensive coordinators in football.

1389
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: The point of the matter is head coach, no, no, no,

1390
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: hire the right person. Matt Eberfluss would be the coach

1391
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: in Chicago today if he hadn't had eight assistants fired

1392
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: in two years.

1393
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: Offensive coordinators get fired too. That's another thing with Pittsburgh

1394
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 4: though you mentioned Tomlin. Tomlin's a defensive guy. That's why

1395
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 4: they had offensive problems with with being towards the end,

1396
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: and they didn't fall on him. It fell on the

1397
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. No one blamed Mike Tomlin for that. People

1398
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 4: blame the offensive coordator. I get what you're saying, where

1399
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: you want your head coach to be more of the CEO, right,

1400
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: is that kind of what I'm picking up from you.

1401
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: You want the head coach increasingly more and more and

1402
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 4: more be coming out on coaches that are adamant that

1403
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: they have to call plays.

1404
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: Really, I think that your coach calling play should be

1405
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: a curveball if your fastball is not working. Okay, A

1406
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: like Dan Campbell wasn't working with UH. Forget that he

1407
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: used to coach the Chargers.

1408
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 9: UH.

1409
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: He used the Black coaches Chargers before running back Any

1410
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: used to be the head coach.

1411
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: He was offensive corded for the wasn't working. Dan Campbell said,

1412
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna step in.

1413
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm a call place. Then the next Sea then he

1414
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: promotes Ben Jons.

1415
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 4: I think that's something that you step in and make

1416
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: a move to do that, unless you are Kyle Shanahan

1417
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: where you showed you have incredible success doing it right.

1418
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: You've seen it's been successful this entire time. But like

1419
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: if I'm Mike McDaniel and Miami, like, no, I'm gonna

1420
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: I gotta manage this team, right. There's something like Matt

1421
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: ebnflus needed to manage the team right. He was calling defense.

1422
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: You need to make and it's the entirety of this team.

1423
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: And that's why you don't end up not calling time

1424
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: out with thirty seconds down, collecting the clock to take

1425
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 4: down to six.

1426
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: I will say this really fast.

1427
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 4: If you are a defensive minded head coach, I don't

1428
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 4: mind you having a defensive coordinator call the place. I

1429
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: will say that I don't think a head coach should

1430
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: be calling the defensive plays, but I don't mind a

1431
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: head coach calling the offensive place. I know, I know

1432
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: that sounds weird to some people, but I don't mind

1433
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 4: Timin doesn't call the place right. I don't think Mike exactly,

1434
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: but he's a defensive minded coach, but he has a

1435
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator called the defensive plays.

1436
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: You hire people, you empower people, You go down and

1437
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: you tell your defensive coordinator, hey, uh, you know I

1438
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: need a blitz on third down. Here, you go, tell

1439
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: your offensive coordinator get me two first downs on this drive,

1440
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: like you.

1441
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 4: But I don't think there's a man, in fact offensive

1442
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: head coach Martin that doesn't call the plays. I think

1443
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: most offensive minded head coaches call the plays. I would say,

1444
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 4: let's just say, if there's sixteen of them in the league,

1445
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 4: I bet you twelve of them.

1446
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: Call the place. I have to think about it.

1447
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm coming, But I also I'm just I'm

1448
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: not play a Giant for the New York Giants, right.

1449
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: They think he gave it up this year, But in general,

1450
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that it's the best. I don't think

1451
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 4: it's the best use of game day operations if I'm

1452
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 4: the head coach, I really don't. Just the connection with

1453
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback is so important, though you kind of want that.

1454
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: Does Jim cop place who I don't think hardball cold plays?

1455
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: No Roman? Greg Roman. But he's got Greg Roman.

1456
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: He hired it.

1457
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

1458
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 4: It's not like Greg Roman just popped up in the

1459
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: sky like he hired it, you know. And that's the point,

1460
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 4: like hire somebody, empower them to do it that they

1461
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: can't get the job done.

1462
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: Get him out of it.

1463
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: The Harball is hip and hit with his quarterback though,

1464
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: but he doesn't call the play. I'm not saying with

1465
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: his I'm not saying that you for some reason need

1466
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 2: to be apart from them. I'm just saying during the game,

1467
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: you probably have a little like the individual minutia of

1468
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: down to down, you probably have a bigger pictured, a

1469
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: bigger fish fraud. Now, speaking of guys who are just excellent,

1470
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: that's just stieve t Segre. He gets shy man. You

1471
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: can't get ste like Harball.

1472
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: No, because those like Harvey he's never gonna get He's

1473
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: never gonna take the credit.

1474
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: How great he yah see, you'd be like, there's no

1475
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 3: there's no tough update acres, just tough one. That that

1476
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: was Harbor. You have no such a tough coaches, only

1477
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: tough players.

1478
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1479
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 9: On the conversation, and you could go either way and

1480
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 9: find success. You'll play calling or not. But remember many

1481
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 9: a RAMS game where the defense is on the field

1482
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 9: during the game and Sean mcvay's on the bench going

1483
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 9: over the next play.

1484
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: Calls exactly like you might want it.

1485
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 9: He's had success, he's a good coach.

1486
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: But it's an odd seven might matter. Yeah, but he

1487
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: calls the offensive plays there though correct. Doesn't. McVeigh call

1488
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: the plays.

1489
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 9: Absolutely and will remember it fifteen years from now in

1490
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 9: order there it is.

1491
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: He's a savant, YEA.

1492
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 9: Let's get to college football is Number one Oregon leads

1493
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 9: twenty eight fourteen at the half against the Washington Huskies.

1494
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 9: Dylan Gabriel close to one hundred and fifty yards passing

1495
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 9: in the first half. Ducks with four touchdown runs, two

1496
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 9: by Jordan James. Number three Texas seventeen nothing at Texas

1497
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 9: A and M at the half winner. This one goes

1498
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 9: to the SEC championship game against Georgia in Atlanta. For Texas,

1499
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 9: arch Manning came off the bench for a fifteen yard

1500
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 9: touchdown run late first quarter. Second quarter, quinn Ewers playing

1501
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 9: through the bad ankle with a touchdown pass, also halftime

1502
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 9: on Fox TV. Iowa State at home leeds Kansas State

1503
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 9: twenty four to fourteen. Apparently Arizona State has now officially

1504
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 9: qualified for the Big twelve Championship game. Sixteenth ranked ASU

1505
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 9: one easily at Arizona today forty nine to seven. Number

1506
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 9: twenty two UNLV trying to get up to the Boise Idaho. Yeah,

1507
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 9: it's Boise hosting the Mountain West Championship game next Friday night.

1508
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 9: UNLV up twenty four to seven at the half against

1509
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 9: Nevada and in the third quarter. It's number ten Indiana

1510
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 9: over lowly Purdue thirty eight nothing. This will put Purdue

1511
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 9: at one and eleven for the season. No bowl game,

1512
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 9: I believe. Michigan won at number two Ohio State thirteen

1513
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 9: to ten on a short field goal in the final minute.

1514
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 9: Chigin's beating them four straight years. Number four Penn State

1515
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 9: goes to the Big Ten championship game against Oregon next

1516
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 9: Saturday night. Penn State over Maryland forty four to seven.

1517
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 9: Maryland scored a touchdown on its first offensive play and

1518
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 9: had no points the rest of the game. Number five

1519
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 9: Notre Dame won at USC forty nine thirty five the

1520
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 9: Irish with two pick sixes in the last four minutes

1521
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 9: from ninety nine yards and another from one hundred yards.

1522
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 9: USC with late TD pass for the final score. Syracuse

1523
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 9: at home, trailed twenty one nothing in the second quarter

1524
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 9: and still beat number six Miami forty two thirty eight.

1525
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 9: Kyle McCord with three touchdown passes in victory on this day,

1526
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 9: Ohio State lost at home McCord with three hundred eighty

1527
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 9: yards through the air, So Clemson not Miami, goes to

1528
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 9: the ACC title game against SMU next Saturday night. Ninth

1529
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 9: ranked SMU thirty eight six winners over cal. Clemson lost

1530
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 9: at home against South Carolina today seventeen to fourteen on

1531
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,479
Speaker 9: a twenty yard touchdown run which just over a minute left.

1532
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 9: Victories for Tennessee and Alabama. Wins for Missouri and Illinois

1533
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 9: in the NBA Philadelphia in Atlanta with victories and Washington

1534
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 9: has lost thirteen games in a row. They're losing seventy

1535
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 9: eight seventy one at Milwaukee mid third quarter. In college

1536
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 9: hoops number six, Houston has lost in overtime in Vegas

1537
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 9: against San Diego State seventy three seventy a tournament third

1538
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 9: place game there, and the Arizona Cardinals gave running back

1539
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 9: James Connor a two year extension.

1540
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: Back to you thanks Steve Martin and bj Coming to

1541
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: you live from the tire rack dot Com Studio has

1542
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: got a game of Who You Got coming up in

1543
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: just a moment here, But BJA, I wanted to do

1544
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: something different seeing as it's everybody's schedules out of whack.

1545
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: To me, it's been Saturday five days in a row.

1546
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what day it is.

1547
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: After Wednesday of Thanksgiving, we saw all types of football

1548
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: being played, so we don't have a full slate of

1549
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: games to recap. So I want to go ahead and

1550
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: do a little NFL blitz here, Thanksgiving Football Blitz.

1551
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 3: Thanks let's go ahead and get it started.

1552
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 5: All right, I come to you, gentlemen, with six football

1553
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 5: related questions from the past few days. Okay, I'm just

1554
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 5: gonna get your opinions on all of that. Number One,

1555
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 5: Kansas City beat the Raiders nineteen to seventeen after recovering

1556
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 5: a botch snap with Vegas infield goal range. That improved

1557
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 5: Kansas City's record to eleven and one. My question though,

1558
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 5: is are the Chiefs actually good or are they just lucky?

1559
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: They are good? They are good. They are actually good.

1560
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 4: And part of the reason why everybody else folds is

1561
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: because everybody else knows it.

1562
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: They're not gonna beat themselves. And that's why you see

1563
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: every other team in the NFL beating themselves on the

1564
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: way to a Chiefs victor.

1565
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gona go with my partner right there. This

1566
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: is what championship teams doing. I don't understand how they

1567
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 4: get knocked for this. For winning close games. I think

1568
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: something like an NFL record. They said, fourteen consecutive like

1569
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 4: one possession games that they have won.

1570
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: That's not luck, guys.

1571
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: That's called knowing what to do when it's time to

1572
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: do what you're supposed to do to win football games.

1573
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 4: They're not lucky. The Kansas City Chiefs are good. Two

1574
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 4: time back to back Super Bowl champions.

1575
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: That means you good.

1576
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 6: They just find ways to win.

1577
01:09:59,400 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: Agreed.

1578
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 5: Next up, the Bears lost to the Lions twenty three

1579
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 5: to twenty on some confusing game management that ultimately costs

1580
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 5: Matt Eberflus his job. So the question is are the

1581
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 5: Bears going to ruin Caleb Williams.

1582
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: We are halfway there. We are halfway there.

1583
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: This is the third time Chicago drafted a quarterback then

1584
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: fired a coach without that quarterback playing its second consecutive season.

1585
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: All right, you've got to knock this highre out of

1586
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: the park.

1587
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 4: Should have been hardball maybe last year, but you gotta

1588
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 4: get that type of guy in the building.

1589
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: Otherwise you're looking at Cincinnati light.

1590
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that they're ruining Caleb because I just

1591
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: don't think he's as generational as he was touted out

1592
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: to be. I think he could be a very good

1593
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: quarterback and maybe a great quarterback in the NFL, but

1594
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: great doesn't mean generational. Generational and great are two different things.

1595
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: The adjective that's been used about him is generational. He

1596
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 4: and then a clip came out today where he admitted

1597
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: that he either wanted to call it time out or

1598
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: didn't want to contact or change the player or something.

1599
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: So it was on and I said, this just the layer.

1600
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 4: It was on everybody, guys, yesterday, Thursday's game was on

1601
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: everybody with Chicago went just ibra flues. It was just

1602
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 4: time to fire him. So I don't think they're ruining him.

1603
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 4: I think they're just a bad run franchise.

1604
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: All right. Moving over to college football for this one.

1605
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 5: With Miami and Ohio State both losing huge, costly games today,

1606
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 5: as we've talked about the two highest paid transfer quarterbacks.

1607
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 6: Excuse me, have come up short this year. What do

1608
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 6: you think this means for college football?

1609
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: I think it means recruit, recruit, recruit, unless your name

1610
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: is Deon Sanders, right. I don't think college football has

1611
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: changed just as much as we all think it.

1612
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 4: As I went, marn recruit your home talent, d to

1613
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 4: portal for other big time main positions that you need,

1614
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 4: but grow your hometown quarterback and then go win national

1615
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 4: championships like Michigan did with JJ McCarthy last year.

1616
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 5: Colorado pounded Oklahoma State fifty two to nothing yesterday. If

1617
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 5: they somehow squeak into the playoffs after all this, how

1618
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 5: much of a shot do you guys give them.

1619
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1620
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 2: When you got the best quarterback in the nation, and

1621
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 2: to me, the best player in the nation, I gotta

1622
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: give you at least a thirty percent shot to beat anybody.

1623
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go hired in thirty percent.

1624
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 4: If the Colorado Buffaloes get into the playoffs, I'm giving

1625
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: them a sixty five percent chance to win because who else,

1626
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 4: who else looks unbeatable? Tell me the team that looks unbeatable.

1627
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 4: Nobody looks unbeatable. And like mart said, best quarterback, best player.

1628
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 4: I'll put my money there, sixty five percent chance to

1629
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: win it all.

1630
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 3: Love it.

1631
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 5: Jumping back over to NFL really quick. The Dolphins vj

1632
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: Your Dolphins have lost their last twelve games in forty

1633
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: degree weather or lower, and Mike McDaniel is now three

1634
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 5: and fourteen as a head coach in games against teams

1635
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 5: that are over five hundred.

1636
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 6: So do you guys think this is something or nothing?

1637
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: It's absolutely something to me, because here's the deal. It

1638
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't be if Miami was the one seed or the

1639
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: two seed. But if this team's able to sneak into

1640
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you're gonna have to see Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore,

1641
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: wherever it is. It's gonna be cold goal snow, Pittsburgh.

1642
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: This is definitely something.

1643
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is definitely something, and they need to fix

1644
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 4: this and figure this out. But like Martin said, you

1645
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 4: gotta win the division. You gotta get a whole playoff

1646
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 4: game at least to win the wildcard game and then

1647
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: go on the road. Division at least you can say, hey,

1648
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: we won a playoff game. But it didn't help. With

1649
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 4: Oos missing five of the first six games, that did

1650
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: not help when you don't have your quarterback, and that's

1651
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 4: what set them back. I didn't have them to win

1652
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 4: the game things given night. It was a question mark

1653
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 4: game for me, just like the Texas game in twos.

1654
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 4: I think they can win the rest of the games,

1655
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 4: but those two games are the question mark games that

1656
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: I had. This is something they gotta fix it.

1657
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 6: It's true.

1658
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 5: It is worth noting that two has been injured for

1659
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 5: a lot of those games, so worth noting anyway, last one,

1660
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 5: jumping back over to college, Georgia beat Georgia Tech forty

1661
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 5: four to forty two last night. It took eight overtimes

1662
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 5: to get that done, which was the second longest game

1663
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 5: in FBS history.

1664
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 6: The longest was nine overtimes to those wondering.

1665
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 5: So the question is do you think this narrow victory

1666
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 5: ultimately helps or hurts Georgia in the grand scheme.

1667
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: It ultimately helps.

1668
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: Because losing it would have been catastrophic, Like there's no

1669
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: way that a loss could benefit Georgia in this scenario.

1670
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: Here's one thing, though, if we're gonna do this dumb

1671
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: ping pong back and forth.

1672
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 4: Snip snap, snip, snap, snip snap to a point conversions,

1673
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: we gotta justin we gotta change how we call the

1674
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: longest games in college football, because there were games that

1675
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 4: were longer in time. I watched Michigan beat Illinois sixty

1676
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: nine to sixty four once. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1677
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 4: and no I'm gonna go fifty to fifty on this

1678
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 4: one with Georgia just but they got lucky. It's a

1679
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 4: good thing they won and did what they did last night,

1680
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 4: because today Clemson falls, Ohio falls, Miami falls. So what

1681
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 4: have been katastropha if they had a loss last night,

1682
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 4: not a catastrop excuse me, it would have been bad,

1683
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 4: but not catastropha because all those other teams did lose too.

1684
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 3: Being that day won, Georgia's into the playoffs. I love

1685
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: NFL films music.

1686
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: It's I love it, dude, It's It's God. I'm in

1687
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 4: the trance right now, I promise you too. Like thinking

1688
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 4: about this. This is part of the reason why the

1689
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 4: NFL is so the one I like so successful. It's

1690
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: called the Rambling Man from Yeah, and this is the

1691
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 4: old the old video and they're running.

1692
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: In slow motion.

1693
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 6: It reminds me the Incredibles and the Incredibles music.

1694
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, very much, probably borrowed from it. Coming up next,

1695
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 4: we'll play a game of.

1696
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: Who you Got Cardinals versus Vikings edition Martin the VJA

1697
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 3: out the Fox Sports Football Saturday.

1698
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: We don't have enough time to truly give this enough time,

1699
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: So Mary you got to bring this back. Absolutely. Martin

1700
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: and VJ com with you a lot from the Tirack

1701
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: dot com studios. Come on, come on, by the way,

1702
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: hit us up on Twitter, hit us up on social

1703
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: media for your two cents. I'm at Martin wise Vjay's

1704
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: at the Big Vanilla Funny. Let's go ahead now and

1705
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: play a quick.

1706
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: Game of who you Got?

1707
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 5: All right, brand new round of who you Got? We

1708
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 5: missed it last week with Martin out. Glad to have

1709
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 5: you back, Martin, so we're gonna gonna do it today.

1710
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 5: So Cardinals Versus Vikings Edition is what we're doing. Right,

1711
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 5: Let's go again, Just to jog the listener's memories for

1712
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 5: how this game works. Every clue is supposed to make

1713
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 5: it a little bit easier to guess who I'm thinking of.

1714
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 5: It's a player, coach, someone who has summoned to do

1715
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 5: with either the Cardinals or the Vikings.

1716
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 6: Let's jump in first clue. This guy was born and

1717
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 6: raised in Maryland.

1718
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 3: I d m V my area.

1719
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: I that was supposed to give me the answer brought

1720
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: one broadest one. Yeah, born and raised in Maryland. The

1721
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: only person who's coming to mind, I was Caleb Williams.

1722
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: No, no, goodness, gracious man, I don't know my Brooks

1723
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: all right.

1724
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 6: No, he was a five star.

1725
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 5: He was a five star recruit out of high school

1726
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 5: and played college football locally.

1727
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 6: At the University of Maryland Terrapins.

1728
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 3: Digs.

1729
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 6: That's right, that's.

1730
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 3: Playing mary Where winners today? Where winners the day.

1731
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 6: I do have another one if we wanted to do it.

1732
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: Too many cans.

1733
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 4: He didn't mess up. It's the usual today. It's the

1734
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: it's the husky, handsome juice.

1735
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: It's money. It's money making more white left today. But

1736
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: I mean with the timing, it was like.

1737
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 5: That was to give us at the rest of the

1738
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 5: clues though, this is how they were gonna go. He

1739
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 5: was a fifth round pick for one of these teams.

1740
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 5: He's a four time Pro bowler, two time All Pro,

1741
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 5: but never for the team that drafted him. He led

1742
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 5: the league in receptions and receiving yards in twenty twenty.

1743
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 5: He's in the top ten career receiving yards for two

1744
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 5: separate franchises. He has a younger brother in the NFL,

1745
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 5: and he holds the Bills franchise record for receiving yard

1746
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 5: and guess what.

1747
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 3: Guess what, and you got guess what.

1748
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 4: We didn't need all of that, just like Michigan didn't

1749
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 4: need a bunch of beat Ohio State today.

1750
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: Next one, let's go. Next one forward passes.

1751
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 5: All right, So this is Lions Bears theme. So all

1752
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 5: these dudes from that game that happened on Thursday, Thanksgiving.

1753
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 5: So first clue this guy was a second round draft

1754
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: pick of one of these two teams.

1755
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: Uh the Porta No, Peanuts Hillman.

1756
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: No.

1757
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 6: Next he played college football at Mississippi State.

1758
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: Oh oh, Darius Slay.

1759
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it.

1760
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: No, No, you're no bro. It's don't take it no,

1761
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: don't take it that way. Today it's the.

1762
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 4: Michigan you we got two give us as I kill you.

1763
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 5: I am thinking of a player right now. I have

1764
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 5: no clues, no context. I'm thinking of a player Michigan.

1765
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: Juju.

1766
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 6: Give you the player that I'm thinking of.

1767
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: Go.

1768
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: Do you have a game or no?

1769
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: That right?

1770
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 3: Howards? Yeah, that's it.

1771
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1772
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: Play the fight song, Mary that don't play don't play

1773
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 4: DJ call it again, man, that is the most sweetest

1774
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: music in the world.

1775
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 3: Right now, you see what happens. Guys. By the way,

1776
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: we have Richmond Webborn last night.

1777
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 4: I got Richmond Webb to come on and do twenty

1778
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 4: minutes with us last night night and mich Richmond Webb

1779
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: told the world.

1780
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I feel like I'm part of

1781
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 3: my teams.

1782
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: He said, VJ. You are and will forever be part

1783
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: of the Miami Dolphins. When the finalist of the Football

1784
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame that play for Miami tells me that

1785
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: I'm part of the Dolphins forever than I am. In

1786
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 4: this past few weeks, I talked to Hassan Askins, I've

1787
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 4: talked to Brandon Graham.

1788
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: I've talked to Blake Corp.

1789
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: I was in locker rooms talking to the NFL players

1790
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 4: that played in Michigan, and I asked them all what

1791
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 4: we gonna do in the game.

1792
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: They all looked at me and said, we're gonna go

1793
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: beat that ass. VJ. Yes, sir, I'm feeling it today.

1794
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 4: And with that, let's see if we keep this hot

1795
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: streak going at Toomas Dolls the NFL picks coming up next.

1796
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,440
Speaker 3: Martin White's VJ. Husky Fox Sports Football Saturday.

1797
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1798
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: That's why we're broadcasting live from the tire Rack dot

1799
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,400
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1800
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: there with an unmatched election, fast free shipping, free legs

1801
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: of protection, and over.

1802
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 3: Ten thousand I about saying recommend it, recommend it. There

1803
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: we go.

1804
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: You ever write something and read it at the same

1805
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: time as you're trying to I memorized it now, I.

1806
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: Literally writing out whoops, whoops, all right first for second

1807
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: of the day.

1808
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 4: That would and I almost got the wrapper. Radio one memorized,

1809
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 4: almost got the wrapper. Radio one memorizes. This is a

1810
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 4: little longer, but there will be a test at the end. Hope,

1811
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 4: shut up. Let's go what are we doing?

1812
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: Let's go what are we doing? Let's go ahead to

1813
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: the atomic dogs. Yeah, okay, that's right.

1814
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 4: We do it every time, this every time, every week

1815
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 4: at this time ten o'clock Eastern, seven o'clock Pacific.

1816
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: We go ahead, trying to make it a little bit

1817
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: of money. Now, there have been three games played already

1818
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL. But you know what, don't be never fear.

1819
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: We've still got you. We'll still take care of it.

1820
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: Do you have any updated records over there, my friend?

1821
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you both you both successfully picked one underdog

1822
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 5: last week, although Arnie was zero and three. I did

1823
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 5: get I did get Martin's underdog picks off the air,

1824
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 5: so you both got one at so you know it's

1825
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 5: still still uh the overall scores remain the same with

1826
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 5: Martin thirteen VJ sixteen, So the same difference there.

1827
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 4: Oh right, yeah, I ended up having, you know, I

1828
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 4: have to do a blazing five at work, so it

1829
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 4: was three and two there.

1830
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: Oh god, he's working with Colin. It's so bad. That's

1831
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: actually pretty dope for you, Mega. I wasn't saying it

1832
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 3: like that.

1833
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: I was there's somewhere where the picks were documented, but

1834
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and document your Yes, first atomic dog.

1835
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 4: My first one's very easy for me, man, I'm gonna

1836
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 4: pull a mart Give me a Mike Tomlin on a

1837
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: something something something with a something something something with Mike Tomlin.

1838
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: Give me Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers to go

1839
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: into Cincinnati and pretty much in the Cincinnati Bengals record

1840
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 4: there underdog by three points tomorrow. I love that number

1841
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 4: for them. They'll go in there and they're definitely gonna

1842
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 4: cover because this is going to be a tight game.

1843
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 4: It's a division game, and they played well in dirty

1844
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 4: and nasty division games.

1845
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 3: Low scoring that over under.

1846
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 4: Guys, take the under on this like I try to

1847
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: tell you guys to do with the Ravens and the

1848
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: Steelers a few weeks ago. This is going to be

1849
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 4: a fistfight under that forty five, with that forty five,

1850
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 4: forty six and a half. Give me the Steelers. Give

1851
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 4: me the under for my first doll right right, right.

1852
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: So the words you were looking for, VJ. Is Mike

1853
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Tomlin in the division has an underdoday. You go, that's

1854
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 3: a retirement strategy.

1855
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: All right, Hold on a second, go ahead, let me

1856
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: go ahead, give me Mike Tomlins outright.

1857
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Have you seen that defense and that Pittsburgh defense? TJ.

1858
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: Watt meet Joe Burrow. That's what it sounds like.

1859
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers, my second one man. This team is cast

1860
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: in for me a few times. I'm going with them again.

1861
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 4: I'm going with Martin squad. Give me them Saints tomorrow,

1862
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 4: Fellas at home. They are a two point underdog with

1863
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 4: the Rams coming in and what I just saw covering

1864
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 4: the Rams up closing personal a week ago, this team's

1865
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 4: gonna be able to move the football. It's a road game.

1866
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 4: They're still playing for trying to win that division over

1867
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 4: there for the New Orleans Saints.

1868
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: They got an interim coach in there, Rizzie. Rizzy's been

1869
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 3: playing a yo big there, go make me look good

1870
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: for the third time. I pickedure as an underdog. Twice.

1871
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 3: You cast it for me both times. Let's make it

1872
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: thrust baby.

1873
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 4: Give me the Saints at home two and a half

1874
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 4: point under dog for my second dog.

1875
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 3: And you know what, the dogs are gonna be barking

1876
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 3: as you think about it. Those Thursday games. We have

1877
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: only one underdog.

1878
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Cover and that was exactly exactly Oh man, people's parlays

1879
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: are gonna be demolished. I actually don't really love this pick.

1880
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to make it, but I feel obligated,

1881
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 2: so I feel forced to. I mean, the Atlanta Falcons

1882
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: plus two and a half against the Los Angeles Chargers.

1883
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that LA has shown the offense to

1884
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 2: be able to keep up with I know Kirk Cousins

1885
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: has not moved one bit, but Bijon Robinson out there,

1886
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: Drake London, even a little bit of Kyle Pitts. What yeah,

1887
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: give me the Falcons in this offense in the game

1888
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: in which I don't think the Charge.

1889
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 4: The Falcons have terrible defense. I don't know if the

1890
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 4: Chargers will scoring them. Though I don't score a ton

1891
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 4: of point, I don't know if the Falcons will scoring either.

1892
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 4: The Charge is number one point differential and number one

1893
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 4: scoring defense in the NFL. For my third and final dog,

1894
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 4: the biggest game of the weekend, You know what, man,

1895
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 4: we just said that he leaves right now in the MVP,

1896
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 4: So why wouldn't I take him on the road. And

1897
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 4: I've seen the Ravens go on the road and win

1898
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 4: a big game and then go home and lay and a.

1899
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't think this is an eight we just passed

1900
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 4: days given, but I'm looking for fourth of July firewards.

1901
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 4: Give me the over two and the fifty one and

1902
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 4: a half points are gonna be scoring plenty of this game.

1903
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: But give me the Philadelphia Eagles to go on the

1904
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: road and take.

1905
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: Out the Baltimore Ravens and have us condosanay.

1906
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: And Baltimore again.

1907
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 4: But looking at that NFC East and like, yeah, Washington,

1908
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 4: you looked a little cute for a little bit. But

1909
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 4: the Eagles are back in taking back control of this division.

1910
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 4: Give me the Eagles on the road and craft k

1911
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 4: Town tomorrow on that plus three for my last final doll.

1912
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: I tell you right now, my entire being and body

1913
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 4: as a gambler, wants to lay money on the New

1914
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 4: York Jets money line.

1915
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: Well I have, but the brain and me won't let me.

1916
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 2: Like if my brain little bit will not let me.

1917
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: But when I look at this line, it's like, oh this,

1918
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: this smells like this this. If it looks like it,

1919
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 2: if it smells like it's it probably is. That's a

1920
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: fishy line. I'll go ahead and give me the Arizona Cars.

1921
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 3: Was up, been with them all years.

1922
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: Go ahead, seven and five, win this division and end

1923
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 4: up hosting the Minnesota Vikings in a playoff game.

1924
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: Going forward, I'll take Kyler Murray meet me. Wow, good

1925
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: job Mary.

1926
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 5: All right, Moving into picks, We're gonna start with the

1927
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 5: forty nine Ers versus the Buffalo Bills.

1928
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 6: Bills are favored by six. What do you guys think?

1929
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: This is easy for me?

1930
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 4: Man? A lot of snow out there is expected. It

1931
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 4: has already been falling and supposed to be snowing again tomorrow.

1932
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 4: The Niners year has done.

1933
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 3: Guys.

1934
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 4: The Super Bowl hangover as is real as the Madden

1935
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 4: curse was from ninety seven until the later twenty ten

1936
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 4: era when it kind of went away. Then Super Bowl

1937
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 4: curse is real. They're not good this year. They don't

1938
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 4: have guys. I think Trent's out again. Their big dogs

1939
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 4: haven't been out. Christian mccaffree has kind of been slowed

1940
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 4: by injury, not Conda, but he was out for a

1941
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 4: long time this year and since he's been back, he

1942
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 4: just hasn't been the same player on the road. Buffalo's

1943
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 4: Connor Roland right now, give me the Bills and that's

1944
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 4: an easy cover for me.

1945
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Six points. Say that went by a touchdown.

1946
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: In today's edition of Football, players are nothing like us.

1947
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: Fred Warner has been playing on a fractured ankle since

1948
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Week four. Geez, it's week thirteen. Wheeze, it's gonna be

1949
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: cold as hell. There's gonna be a ton of snow.

1950
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: And that's just one more forty nine ers injury. Give

1951
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 2: me Buffalo, Buffo. I'll take Buffalo to cover easy, all right.

1952
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 5: Next up, the Denver Broncos are favored by six points

1953
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 5: over the Cleveland Browns.

1954
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 6: That's the Monday night football game this week. What do

1955
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 6: you guys think?

1956
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: I know exactly what I'm thinking, all right, no wahen

1957
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 4: Maar's going And I went with the Broncos two straight

1958
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 4: weeks and they cashed it for me.

1959
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: But I got an infinity inside about my man.

1960
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 4: Famous Jamis aka crab Legs Winston.

1961
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: This is my guy. And they played defense. They night defense,

1962
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: still travels. This is just the game that Denver.

1963
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 4: Looks like they should win and they don't at home.

1964
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 4: This is big, and they got some big games coming up.

1965
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 4: They got the Charges and they got the Chiefs still

1966
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 4: coming up right here. I think Denver drops this game.

1967
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 4: Give me the Browns here, especially this point spread. I

1968
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 4: think the Browns covered is definitely they could win this game,

1969
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 4: but they're definitely gonna cover it. This give me the

1970
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 4: Browns to cover, you know, save for a block field

1971
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: goal that never be on like a five game winning

1972
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 4: streak right now, you know, the only undfeated quarterback against

1973
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 4: the spread.

1974
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 3: So far.

1975
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: As a favorite, bow Knicks, I'm riding with bow Knicks.

1976
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 2: Give me bow Knicks. He's got less letters in his

1977
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: whole name than I do with my first name.

1978
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 3: Bow Knicks believer. Wow, Okay, I know what that reference

1979
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 3: is from? Nice job?

1980
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 8: Oh?

1981
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 6: Is that from something I just seen it on social media.

1982
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: Wow yeah, Bo Dallas, he was a pro wrestler. There

1983
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 3: you go.

1984
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 6: Anyway.

1985
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 5: Next up, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are facing off against

1986
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: the newly invigorated Bryce Young. That's your guy, Vjr. But

1987
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 5: the Bucks are still favored by six points.

1988
01:27:59,040 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 6: What do we think?

1989
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: Nah, Man, I'm going my man b why And I'm

1990
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 4: always stay with my man b Why. I told y'all

1991
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 4: just calm down, let things settle down. Martin made a

1992
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 4: really good point. He benefited from just sitting for a second.

1993
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 4: But when they put Andy downe Andy won one game

1994
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: and then they all went back to the bad team

1995
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: that they are. But now you can see things starting

1996
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 4: to turn and starting to roll. Man, Tampa Bay, I

1997
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 4: thought would be better this year. They're not. They're an

1998
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: average football team. And I think going on the road,

1999
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: going into Carolina Carolina home, playing off against the Chiefs

2000
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 4: last week, I think the repeat it this week. Give

2001
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 4: me Carolina to win this game. See I said about

2002
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: week three that I was done betting on the Carolina Panthers.

2003
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 3: Uh oh, and I'm a liar. I'm bad. I'm bad.

2004
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield.

2005
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: There is only five and twelve against the spread as

2006
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: a starter when he faces a divisional opponent as a

2007
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 2: favorite seventeen twenty seven and seven as a favorite against

2008
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: the spread.

2009
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: He's a lot baker Mayfield. I know he's a number one.

2010
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: Overall pick, but the reality of the situation is he's

2011
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: pretty alright. And what alright quarterbacks do is when they're

2012
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: supposed to like, they keep keep games closer than they

2013
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: should be. When they're the team is better, it'll be

2014
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 2: closer than it should be. When the team is worse,

2015
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: it'll be closer than it should be. I don't know

2016
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: if Carolina wins, but I think they cover all right.

2017
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 5: Next up, we have a battle of two young quarterbacks

2018
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 5: brimming with potential. It's Anthony Richardson versus Drake may The

2019
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 5: Colts are facing off against the Patriots.

2020
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 6: The Cults are favored by two and a half.

2021
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 4: Though, what do you guys think, ah, Man, This is

2022
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 4: a tough one for me, man, because the Patriots do

2023
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 4: play tough.

2024
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 3: They're not a pushover team. They are at home, and

2025
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Gerard Mayo is a really good defensive coach.

2026
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 4: Listen, this Patriots defense has been really good this year,

2027
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 4: and Anthony Richardson is still a rookie quarterback. He's still

2028
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 4: favors some things out. He's gonna see things tomorrow Ian

2029
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 4: that he hasn't seen before. And that's what Mayo is

2030
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: gonna be able to bring from the mine of Bill Belichick.

2031
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 4: Give me the Patriots at home. This is not a

2032
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 4: big spread Vegas. They think this is a big game

2033
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 4: two and a half points. But I think the Patriots

2034
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 4: pulled off to that off and win this game tomorrow.

2035
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm with it.

2036
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 2: I was borderline making this my third Tomic dog, but

2037
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: it is just would have been three.

2038
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 3: Consecutive weeks I picked the Patriots to win and they didn't.

2039
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 3: But I know I just didn't quit this team.

2040
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 4: Man. They feel different with Drake may in there. They

2041
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: feel he's live at very minimum. And if you're telling me,

2042
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 4: I got a QB competition between Anthony richard City Drake May,

2043
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 4: I feel good about it because Anthony Richardson's completion of

2044
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 4: percentage just my beat tomorrow's date eleven thirty one, if

2045
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 4: that's even these and also two on top of his game.

2046
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 4: Did you mentioned the two quarterbacks there? Drake may can

2047
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 4: run too, so Anthony richards and Butsoki Drake May but

2048
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 4: Drake May's the better passer, and I'll take the better

2049
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 4: passer with the better defense at home in the court.

2050
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 4: It's gonna be cold to tomorrow. It's gonna be cold

2051
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: and MESSI up there in Foxborough tomorrow.

2052
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 6: All right.

2053
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 5: Last one, we got the Houston Texans. They're being hosted

2054
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 5: by the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans are favored by three

2055
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:46,839
Speaker 5: and a half points.

2056
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 3: What do we think? This is my favorite gay because

2057
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 3: I had Tennessee last week.

2058
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 4: I said Tennessee was gonna go in there, it was

2059
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 4: gonna beat them, and they did, but I don't think

2060
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 4: that they would have a flat fall down. I want

2061
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 4: to pick Jacksonville, but I don't want to go against

2062
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 4: the Texas back to back weeks. Give me the Texas

2063
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 4: to write the ship and go down there. I know

2064
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is supposed to be back tomorrow. So no

2065
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 4: more the other guy, Matt whatever, Matt Jones from Alabama,

2066
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 4: No more the other guy.

2067
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: But give me, give me the Texas to go in

2068
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 3: here and write the ship and get this dubbed. Tomorrow.

2069
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 3: I will take the Jaguars. Wow to cover, oh Okay,

2070
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: to cover the cover.

2071
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 4: Final score of this game twenty three twenty seven twenty

2072
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 4: three Texans over run on forty forty four and a half. Well,

2073
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 4: what's twenty seven plus twenty three over over? You're taking over?

2074
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 4: I went the under on this. I like nineteen seventeen.

2075
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 4: This is a low scoring, tight defensive football game.

2076
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 3: See the stress picked that. You just picked the Texans

2077
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 3: to cover? No, I picked no. I picked the Texas

2078
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 3: to win. Oh, this is against the spread. Oh we're

2079
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 3: doing against the spread. I forgot. You're right, you're right,

2080
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 3: you're right, right's right, that's right. I know, all right, Okay,

2081
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: give me? Did you give me? All right?

2082
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 4: Give me, give me, give me it, give me, give

2083
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 4: me the Texans, give me, give me twenty fourteen. But

2084
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 4: I do think this is a low I do think

2085
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 4: this is a low score football game. So give me

2086
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 4: the Texas twenty to fourteen.

2087
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 3: There you go. There you have. Those are the picks?

2088
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 3: Are there even any more games left? Yeah?

2089
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 5: I was really looking for them. You guys hit on

2090
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 5: most of them in the Atomic Dog, So I think

2091
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 5: that was just kind of what was left.

2092
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 4: If I can't, I want to throw in out here Jets. Yeah, exactly,

2093
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 4: that's the one I'm looking at, right, there. And that's

2094
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 4: even though this is such a nasty game, this is

2095
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 4: such a nasty line, Like Seahawks should be favored in

2096
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 4: this by five probably no after they half yeah three

2097
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: and a half four.

2098
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 3: I get your going west to east. This is the thing.

2099
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 3: This is This is where I, honestly, as a gambler,

2100
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: where I specialize. This makes no sense.

2101
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 5: Vegas, Vegas knows that this is the game that that

2102
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 5: Jets that right right when it doesn't matter, they win Veas.

2103
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: This is the spot, right, this is a spot. See

2104
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 3: Addle's got the division on the line, are like, they

2105
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 3: need to keep winning.

2106
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: It's at the top of this thing. If they follow

2107
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 2: the tumble right back down to the basement of the

2108
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: NFC West, Jets have absolutely nothing to play for. But

2109
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: if here's the thing, though, I feel like this is

2110
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel like this is unconfirmed. I haven't talked to

2111
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 2: anybody about this, but I just think this is the

2112
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: reality of being in the NFL. You know your team sucks,

2113
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: right if you're the Jets, you know your team sucks,

2114
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 2: But there's also thirty on other teams to play for.

2115
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 2: So like when guys go out there and you're like,

2116
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, the left tackle free agent, all right, or

2117
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 2: the defensive back free agent for New York. You know

2118
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: this is a dumpster fire, but you gotta put out

2119
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: good tape because you gotta get a job next year.

2120
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 3: I think that that is something that for.

2121
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 4: A few games, or at least get you closer than

2122
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 4: you probably should be, right, especially when you hear all

2123
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 4: of this tumultuation coming out of the New York I

2124
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 4: was shocked Aaron Rodgers and Woody Johnson, and I mean,

2125
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: this ugly stuff out of there.

2126
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 3: Last quick one. Give me a Titan.

2127
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 4: Give me the Titans to cover in Washington tomorrow. Nasty weather.

2128
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 4: They're also, yeah, nasty weather, and they're out there in

2129
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 4: the DC area tomorrow. Give me the tight They went

2130
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 4: on the road, and they did it indoors against the Texans,

2131
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 4: back to back against Washington.

2132
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 3: Washington is starting to go the other way. Guys.

2133
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 4: It looked good for a while, look pretty for a while.

2134
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 4: But also too, I like the under on this too, man,

2135
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 4: that forty four and a half. I don't think one

2136
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: team's torn over twenty points. Neither team might not score

2137
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 4: for twenty between the Titans and the Commanders of Tomorrow.

2138
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 4: Speaking of Washington, right now, the Washington Huskies trailing Oregon

2139
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: by twenty one points. Looks like the Ducks, Well they

2140
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 4: were locked into the Big Ten championship game. Anyway, we

2141
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 4: know who they play. We'll go through that and all

2142
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 4: the rest of the diffree Ohio state. It sure will

2143
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 4: not be We'll go through that and all the rest

2144
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: of the conference championship permutations and everything ahead.

2145
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 10: A J. D.

2146
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 2: Pakell at the bottom of the hour. This is Martin

2147
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: Weis's VICHA Husky on a Fox Sports Football Saturday currente

2148
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: A loaf on the Tireck dot Com studios is Martin

2149
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 2: Wison VJ.

2150
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 3: Husky as we.

2151
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 2: Take you through the next half hour of today, getting

2152
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 2: you ready for it. Aaron Torres and Jason Martin.

2153
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Aaron Torres is such a such a definitive voice on

2154
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 4: college football that Steve Hartman said, let me call at.

2155
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: And get these playoff scenarios hammered out. So we'll do

2156
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 2: our best right now. But that show is where you're

2157
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: really gonna have plus who all the games will be over.

2158
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: So like right now, Texas they look like they're going

2159
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: through the SEC championship game.

2160
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: But Texas A and M has about and a half

2161
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 3: minutes left to change something about a ten point game.

2162
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 3: Plenty of game left.

2163
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: So I'll ask you, VJ, what was the most surprising

2164
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: thing that you saw today, or I should say today

2165
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 2: from the week of college football, because it's been you know,

2166
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Speaker 2: it's very spread out.

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Speaker 4: The most surprising thing I saw today was just how

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Speaker 4: pitiful and embarrassing and bat Ohio State looked today.

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Speaker 3: That was the most surprising damn thing I saw.

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Speaker 4: I knew they weren't gonna win the game, but I

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01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 4: didn't think that they scored ten points Mart and I didn't.

2172
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: I had twenty seven to twenty three was my final score.

2173
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 4: I thought both teams would move the ball, make some plays.

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Speaker 3: Ivory game. You throw the records and you just you know,

2175
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: and you just go for broke right.

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,839
Speaker 4: Never would I have thought they would score ten total

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01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 4: points today and be just completely shut down by a

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01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 4: defense that was missing an All American first team corner

2179
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 4: to cover all these vaunted receivers that Ohio State had.

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01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 4: That was super, super shocking to me today as far

2181
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 4: as college football. Another one the way Colorado finished off

2182
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 4: of Oklahoma State yesterday. That was just a backwood, backyard

2183
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 4: woodshed beaten man fifty two to nothing. I'm surprised. I

2184
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 4: know you said Gundy wins nine ten games their year

2185
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 4: and stuff, but at some point either just gonna just

2186
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 4: be mediocre and be okay with it, or you might

2187
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 4: lock at some changes there, man. But those are like,

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01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 4: those were the big things that are surprising me. I

2189
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 4: called the two upsets the other ones that happened to it,

2190
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 4: So those weren't really too surprising to me.

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01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 2: Monty just texts me correcting me. Ooh, she was like,

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01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: oh I, mama, see I said, call Errortors, not Hartman.

2193
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 4: The point was Steve Hartman has I has a Heisman vote,

2194
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 4: and you guys were talking to errators about college football.

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01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 3: The point is he knows what he's talking about. That

2196
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 3: was the point I was trying to make Monty, do

2197
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 3: you use have you used my term jumped the broom yet?

2198
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: Have you guys used it and made sure you gave

2199
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: VJ credit like you guys give credit to other people

2200
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 4: you take their saints.

2201
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 3: Asks Monty that that's the homie right there. That's my girl.

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01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 3: So I'd say for me, Ohio State's.

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01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 2: Guys said, going in, did I think that Ohio State

2204
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 2: was going to be not nearly as bad as they

2205
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: were offensively. No, But about seven minutes into the first quarter,

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01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 2: I saw what type of time they were on. Man,

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01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, I saw what I saw, what the energy

2208
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: went to be about tight. I think that Georgia Tech

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01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: last night really surprised me. I didn't think that they

2210
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: didn't think that. Georgia especially for a team, and that's

2211
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 2: kind of a theme with these kind of teams that

2212
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: rose up. Georgia Tech Michigan today struggling offenses right, Georgia

2213
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 2: Tech's are throwing the ball right, and Georgia just I

2214
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: figured a team that fits the run so well would

2215
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: do better than that and really should have lost the game.

2216
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: And I think that would have been something incredible, something

2217
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: impressive to see. We'll see, I thought Kenny Dillingham at

2218
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: Arizona State sent a message.

2219
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yet they sent a messages today. Yeah.

2220
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 2: And that's a team that is not necessarily I don't

2221
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: know how many pros they got on a roster. I

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01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: don't know, Like Camp scattle Well is probably gonna be

2223
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 2: selling something down the line.

2224
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 4: It won't be you won't be an NFL running back.

2225
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 4: But that's a well coached team. They're tough as nails.

2226
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: They played pretty good defense, and they got a running

2227
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: back who they really believe in in Arizona State and

2228
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: what the whooping they put on Arizona today and a

2229
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: fighting Arnie Spaniard.

2230
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: It was very much a message. Look, I know y'all

2231
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 3: talk about Colorado.

2232
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 2: Into Big twelve TCU, it is Cincinnati that no, no, no,

2233
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: Arizona State's got something to say.

2234
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 4: Also too, Thursday, man Memphis beating Tulane. That was huge too,

2235
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 4: because that really did shake up the college football playoff

2236
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 4: because there were people that didn't think that the Big

2237
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Twelve was gonna get in, which I think is just

2238
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,440
Speaker 4: stupid when people think, oh, yeah, the power is mathematically

2239
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 4: if Toulan had won, it would have been so like,

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01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 4: I get that it shouldn't have been whatever, but just like,

2241
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 4: you know, it's just that's.

2242
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 3: What the marn I just honestly believe.

2243
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 4: And maybe I'm just being stupidly optimistic here that once

2244
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 4: the door closed on the committee and everybody puts their

2245
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: phones and stuff away on paper, yeah, maybe we leave

2246
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 4: out the Big Twelve champion, but I'm sure somebody beat

2247
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 4: the same and said, hold on, hold on, hold on,

2248
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 4: hold on.

2249
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 3: We just did this last year.

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01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 1: We just did we just.

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01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 4: Theyd this last year, or to tell you that that's

2252
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 4: what it would have been.

2253
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 3: Guess what so this off season reverb it.

2254
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 4: It's okay, guys, reverb sit down after the year and go, okay, guys,

2255
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 4: what worked, what didn't work. Let's start with this power

2256
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 4: for stuff and call it the Power five conferences. Each

2257
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: conference champion gets in.

2258
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well let's say revamped. It's for next year.

2259
01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: They were not going to do it a week later,

2260
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 2: and to if that had gotten in, would have been there.

2261
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 2: But there's one thing.

2262
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 4: There's no debate in college football anymore, and like there's

2263
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 4: going to be people who tried to debate it. So

2264
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 4: when you see it happen, just know this person is

2265
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 4: operating in bad faith, and protect your space, protect your

2266
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 4: own mental health, right, do not get into this argument.

2267
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 4: Deon Sanders said it, and it is so not because

2268
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 4: Dion said it, but Deon said it, and it.

2269
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 3: Is also true.

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Speaker 11: I think Travis clinched the Heisman with his performance. I

2271
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 11: think he made a lot of people aware of how

2272
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 11: ignorant there was with the thorpe. His performance today on

2273
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 11: what he had three touchdowns one hundred yards and interception

2274
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 11: and two as is broken up. He should have had

2275
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 11: another pig hitting right a durned chest. I'm not happy

2276
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 11: about that, but I'm happy with him, so.

2277
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 3: Furn of him.

2278
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 4: First player in twenty five seasons, quick math since not

2279
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 4: since the year two thousand, since y two k Travis

2280
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 4: Hunter doesn't even know why two K well lineum right, Sorry,

2281
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 4: well Lenny Well Lennium, that's a good album. That's the

2282
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 4: last time a college football player had three touchdowns from

2283
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 4: scrimmage and an interception also there, Travis Hunter had. I

2284
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 4: forget the stat I'll have it when we come back

2285
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 4: from the UPTA. I'm trying to guess who the player is.

2286
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 4: But go ahead, I know we gotta go to Steve.

2287
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to guess who the player is. Steve, you're

2288
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 4: up as I do this quick research.

2289
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 3: How you doing? Steve doing well?

2290
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 9: And you mentioned Tulane ranked in the top twenty in

2291
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 9: college football this week, did lose at home to Memphis

2292
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 9: on Thursdays. So Tulane finished seven and one in the

2293
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 9: American Conference, Memphis six and two, Navy six and two

2294
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 9: in that conference after winning on the road yesterday, Army

2295
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 9: today eight and oh in the American Conference got a

2296
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 9: home win against UT San Antonio twenty nine twenty four,

2297
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 9: So there are ten total conference championship games next weekend,

2298
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 9: three on Friday night at eight pm. One of those

2299
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 9: is Army hosting Tulane. Another is Boise State Friday night

2300
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 9: on Fox TV hosting it seems like UNLV to the

2301
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 9: fourth quarter at number twenty two Vegas UNLV up thirty

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01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 9: one seven over Nevada. Indiana now leads sixty six nothing

2303
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 9: against Purdue with under two minutes left. Number one Oregon

2304
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 9: ahead of Washington forty two to fourteen, and on Fox

2305
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 9: TV early fourth quarter, Iowa State, which blocked a field

2306
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 9: goal attempt earlier, leads by three against Kansas State twenty

2307
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 9: four to twenty one. There are three to three quarters

2308
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 9: at A and M. The Texas lead is seventeen to

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01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 9: seven over the Aggies. Winner goes to the SEC championship

2310
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 9: game against Georgia in Atlanta next Saturday. Texas got arch

2311
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 9: mannings TD run off the bench in the first quarter,

2312
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 9: quinn Ewers with a touchdown pass in the second quarter.

2313
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 9: The only scoring for A and M at home an

2314
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 9: interception return of ninety three yards for a TV and

2315
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 9: in the red zone just a few minutes ago. The

2316
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 9: Texas offense fumbled the ball away, so not over yet,

2317
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 9: seventeen to seven. Longhorns lead at Texas A and M

2318
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 9: just starting the fourth quarter. Michigan won at number two

2319
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 9: Ohio State thirteen to ten on a short field goal

2320
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 9: in the final minute. Syracuse came back to beat number

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01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 9: six Miami forty two to thirty eight. Syracuse had trailed

2322
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 9: twenty one nothing in the second quarter. Clemson lost at

2323
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 9: home to rival South Carolina seventeen to fourteen, but because

2324
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 9: of the Hurricanes loss, Clemson is still going to the

2325
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 9: ACC title game. Arizona State stomped Arizona in Tucson forty

2326
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 9: nine seven. ASU did qualify for the Big twelve championship game.

2327
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 9: The Arizona Cardinals gave running back James Connor a two

2328
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 9: year extension. Washington running back Austin Eckler was placed on

2329
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 9: injured reserve with a concussion. Chargers running back JK. Dobbins

2330
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 9: is on IR with a knee injury. Jets tackle Tyron

2331
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 9: Smith went on IR. Buffalo activated linebacker Matt Mulano. He's

2332
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 9: been out for over a year in the NBA. He's

2333
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 9: back in the Golden State lineup. Steph Curry is playing

2334
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 9: tonight at Phoenix, but mid third quarter the Suns are

2335
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 9: ahead of the Warriors seventy six sixty four.

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01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 3: Courier.

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01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 9: He's had had a sorenee three of eleven shooting now

2338
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 9: for eleven points. Paul George, after a hyper extended knee,

2339
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 9: returned for Philly, had eleven points in a win at Detroit.

2340
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 9: Atlanta was a winner at Charlotte LaMelo Ball of the

2341
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 9: Hornets out at least two weeks with a strained calf

2342
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 9: and guys. Former Saint John's basketball coach Lou Carniseca has

2343
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 9: died at the age of ninety nine. He retired in

2344
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 9: nineteen ninety two and made the Basketball Hall of Fame

2345
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 9: that year.

2346
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve Bartin and VJ.

2347
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Coming to you a lot from the Tireck dot Com

2348
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 2: stideos without further ado, Let's go ahead and get our

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01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 2: guests in here. He does have theme music, Bishop Magic

2350
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 2: gwan don a college football JD pikel on three College

2351
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Speaker 2: Football Insider.

2352
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 3: He's on the Hard Count on YouTube. Best part it's

2353
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 3: on demand. Just go look for it. Whatever you hear

2354
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 3: his voice, just go find it and JD, New Dad,

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01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 3: j D.

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01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 7: How you doing, my friend, man, I'm feeling a lot

2357
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 7: like you mentioned New Dad and that team music comes

2358
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 7: on right around nine thirty Central on the Saturday night.

2359
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 7: It's go time there. Yeah, well, I know VJ is doing.

2360
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 7: I know y'all both do a tremendous and light of

2361
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 7: what happened in Dowstern today, but pleasure beyond.

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01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: With you all.

2363
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 3: You are absolutely right. Don't be trying to be my

2364
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 3: friend now. We are on cloud nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

2365
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 3: wherever you want to be at.

2366
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 4: As the University of Michigan Wolverines walked into Ohio State's trap,

2367
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 4: Becks took over eight trap, fourth year in a row

2368
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 4: for Ryan Day, who, for my dollar, one of the

2369
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 4: best coaches in college football, but just seemingly cannot win

2370
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 4: the game that matters.

2371
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 3: What is this fallout for Ohio State? Because to me,

2372
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: this is a very very big loss.

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01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 7: Obviously, I think there's oh I mean it's a massive loss.

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01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 7: I mean this was death con twelve, fifteen, sixteen, whatever

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01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 7: number you want to put to it, Like this was

2376
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 7: the doomsday scenario that everyone I think kind of joked

2377
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 7: about a little bit, like hey, well, well, what if

2378
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 7: they lost to Michigan this year, But no, no, that's

2379
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 7: twenty million dollars roster. I mean Michigan's down no more,

2380
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh. And so I think short of winning a

2381
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 7: national championship for Ryan Day, this is becoming playoff run

2382
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 7: things canna get very, very comfortable. And I know the

2383
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 7: take is going to be if they don't win a

2384
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 7: national championship, fire Ryan Day, If they don't win a

2385
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 7: national championship, if from Ryan Day, I wonder how much

2386
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 7: longer you want to go on with this whole deal, Like, wow,

2387
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 7: you win ten eleven games a year. If you don't

2388
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 7: win the right one, it's like, well, this guy is

2389
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 7: not I mean, this guy sucks. The variety is the problem,

2390
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 7: and it's like, I don't know, there's somebody better for

2391
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 7: the jobs than Ryan Day. But it's kind of like

2392
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 7: one of those toxic relationships, Like they're clearly not getting married.

2393
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 7: It feels like every single summer break they're going to

2394
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 7: break up and they get back together sometime.

2395
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 4: In the fall and body, but like they get together

2396
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 4: at the summer career yep, this time every year.

2397
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 7: It's a bad vibe. And so I'm curious if it's

2398
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 7: not just a mutual breakup, and it's not you, it's.

2399
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 3: Me, j D, BIKEL. What's up player? How you doing?

2400
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 9: I'm doing well, not as good as y'all, man, but

2401
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 9: I'm doing.

2402
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 3: For then you already know where I'm going.

2403
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,600
Speaker 4: About a month and a half ago, I tried to

2404
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 4: tell you about Will Howard and exactly what was going

2405
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 4: to happen.

2406
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 3: And I told you if he put the ball in

2407
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 3: his hands, he'll get the game away. Hey, here I am.

2408
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 4: Today to tell you I was writing my friend in

2409
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 4: victory left.

2410
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 3: Right in your face, JD.

2411
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: Right in your face, man, nineteen thirty three, not over

2412
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 4: a two hundred yards two interceptions.

2413
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you defend a guy, but I just

2414
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 3: want you to know, right in your face, JD.

2415
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 7: You know what, give credit to Will Howard? Uh festus

2416
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 7: very very festive kind of performance today, uh yesterday, Christmas

2417
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 7: is coming up like he's like, hey, I might as

2418
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 7: well gift wrap a few of these shar own more

2419
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 7: nice little early Christmas President. I mean, I mean that

2420
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 7: was that was on the money. I this is this

2421
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 7: is tough to say, and a lot of it being

2422
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 7: less than what eight hours removed from them. Just having

2423
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 7: the collapse of all collapses of the regular season. There's

2424
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 7: a part of me now that wonders, just a part,

2425
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 7: small part of me wonders at the Ohio State maybe

2426
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 7: you need a little wake up call before the college

2427
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 7: football playoff. It's not a matter of talentce so that

2428
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,600
Speaker 7: that that is like if I am looking through my

2429
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 7: my scarlet and gray colored glasses, that I would own

2430
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 7: it from a bluck eye. Man, maybe that's the optics

2431
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 7: you look at it through. But no, I'm with you.

2432
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 7: I mean they were the most surprising to me Vja

2433
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 7: and Martin was the fact that like Ohio State just

2434
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 7: competitively did not meet the moment talent so much like

2435
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 7: they were, they were nowhere to be found.

2436
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 5: Like it was.

2437
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 7: It was Michigan looking like the team that was poised

2438
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 7: to go make a college football playoff when I won

2439
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 7: a national title. So that was I mean, there's a

2440
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 7: lot to unpack here with that one. But credit Schrin

2441
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 7: wore having that team ready to roll, and Ryan Day

2442
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 7: clearly whatever whatever you want to put to it, however

2443
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 7: you want to explain it, they very much showed it up.

2444
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 3: And I just want to piggyback on out.

2445
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 4: So On a more serious note, what happens with Ohio

2446
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 4: stay in this playoff? They're not going to be a

2447
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 4: top four team because they're not going to play for

2448
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 4: the conference championship. Could we see them show up in

2449
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 4: one of these early games on the road man and

2450
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: end up getting beat and getting sent home? And does

2451
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 4: that make it now even worse where it's not Ryan

2452
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 4: Day's decision, he doesn't even make it to the plane.

2453
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think the tough thing is after today,

2454
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 7: it's hard to argue that it couldn't happen, right because

2455
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 7: I mean I think before this weekend, even if they

2456
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,799
Speaker 7: had eaped out a win over Michigan, you say, okay,

2457
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 7: well they had let down rivalry spot, you know, found

2458
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 7: a way to get it done good teams from ugly.

2459
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 7: But now like you're rolling out there against Arizona State,

2460
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 7: Like who's to say Arizona State can't get it done?

2461
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 7: Like like if that's a maybe not as physical an

2462
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 7: outfits as Michigan is, Like if you're not tackling Clail Mulling,

2463
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 7: I mean, camp scattery is not a much much easier task.

2464
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 7: Like if they do draw someone like an Arizona State

2465
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 7: or heck, They're probably not going to draw on Arizona

2466
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 7: State now with their shooting probably being somewhere in the

2467
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 7: nine if we're being generous, probably more likely the ten

2468
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 7: to eleven range. It's not gonna be a great vib

2469
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think to put it to put a

2470
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 7: bow on that thought, like absolutely if they have a

2471
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 7: first round exit, especially if it's to somebody with a

2472
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 7: logo that's not quite as appealing to the to the

2473
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 7: bucket anyone. Yeah, Bob's not gonna be good.

2474
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 3: So JD, what do they do with Indiana now?

2475
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 4: Because they have Indiana has the head to head loss

2476
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 4: against hig State, but only one loss all on the year.

2477
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 3: How do you think Indiana shakes out when this is

2478
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 3: all said and done?

2479
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 7: You know, I think they get four teams in from

2480
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 7: the Big Ten. I think you've got Penn State, Oregon, Indiana,

2481
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 7: Ohio State. I'm just curious now who that twelve team

2482
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 7: is going to be in the playoff in general, because

2483
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 7: because I think Indiana the lost to Ohio State hasn't

2484
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 7: aged you know, as well as you would have liked

2485
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 7: it too. Obviously, you like Ohio State to go win

2486
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 7: the Big Ten championship, and you're only lost the Big ten.

2487
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: JA.

2488
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know you run into a bus law

2489
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 3: j D.

2490
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 7: Wait what can you do exactly exact? I mean, hey, you,

2491
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 7: what are you going to do there? So I think

2492
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 7: Indiana is still in how they seed them relative to

2493
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 7: to lost Ohio State is going to be fascinating if

2494
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 7: it's me, based on what this committee keeps telling us,

2495
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 7: with how much they value the eye tests and how

2496
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 7: teams look on Saturdays, it's hard for me to unsee

2497
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 7: what happened in Columbus if I'm trying to put Indiana

2498
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,759
Speaker 7: ahead of Ohio State. So I think you see Indiana

2499
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:56,799
Speaker 7: behind Ohio State, but at the same time, the two losses,

2500
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 7: I think if you're pushing back against that in a

2501
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 7: pretty emphatic way, you have a case. So final answer

2502
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 7: Indiana behind Ohio State based on the I test, which

2503
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 7: the committee values.

2504
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 4: The question that is, I think everybody's asking, if you

2505
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 4: look around, look what happened today. Miami loses, Clemson loses,

2506
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 4: Georgia last night eked out one, but I think that

2507
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 4: helped them. That those other teams lost, and then the

2508
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:24,480
Speaker 4: Ohio team loses today. Tell me why we could possibly

2509
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 4: see we agree with three plays A three lost playoff team.

2510
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 4: A three lost team should not be in the playoffs.

2511
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 4: We've taught you and I we've talked about this on

2512
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 4: the show. But right right, but it feels like, and

2513
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to do conspiracy theory thing, but it

2514
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 4: feels like they're trying to figure out a way to

2515
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 4: slide Alabama in here.

2516
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 3: They're sitting at thirteen right now, and these.

2517
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 4: Other teams have lost now, and then they go win

2518
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 4: their rivalry game today not pretty twenty eight fourteen, but

2519
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 4: they go win the game.

2520
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 3: Could we be wrong when we.

2521
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 4: Thought no way a three lost team gets into the playoffs?

2522
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 4: Could we see one sneak in there? And could it

2523
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 4: be also maybe Colorado somehow sneaks in there.

2524
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 7: You know, things are gonna get really weird here down

2525
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 7: the stretch once we figure out who's representing the Big twelve.

2526
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 7: Depending on how we want to slice this thing, we

2527
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 7: could see three three loss teams in the college football

2528
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 7: playf You can see, I'm not one hundred percent sure

2529
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 7: where things stand right now with the Big twelve tie breakers,

2530
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 7: and I know the Kansas State Iowa say it's going

2531
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 7: on right now later in the week or and then

2532
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 7: I excuse me kicked off.

2533
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 3: Now zero zero gets Houston.

2534
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 7: Okay, so let's let let's walk this through. Let's say

2535
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 7: there's a world where Colorado wins the Big Twelve. They

2536
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 7: find themselves in that will win the Big twelve three

2537
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 7: loss team in if Clemson they just got to beat

2538
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 7: us of you next week, they could be a three

2539
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 7: loss tip they're in probably Clemson getting a bye as well.

2540
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,600
Speaker 7: Whether that's right or wrong, I think it's wrong. With

2541
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 7: another discussion by the time, I think that the three

2542
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 7: loss like you mentioned at large bid is fascinating if

2543
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 7: I have to pick a team that's most deserving now,

2544
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 7: even though they don't have the head to head against Alabama,

2545
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 7: I think the way that South Carolina is balling right now, Wow,

2546
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 7: you take a look at their losses, which is I

2547
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 7: hate talking about quality losses. I think that's just like

2548
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 7: a loser Bronze Metal mentality.

2549
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: But here we are.

2550
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 7: All three of their losses are terrank teams. And I

2551
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 7: know Alabama. I know that they beat South Carolina by

2552
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 7: two points in Brian Denny, but I mean, gosh, dang,

2553
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 7: I can't un see what happened in Norman last weekend.

2554
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 7: I feel like I have a hard time unseeing what

2555
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 7: happened in Nashville when they played Vanderbilt. The body of

2556
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 7: work for itself, I think by nature of how much

2557
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 7: chaos we've seen across the college football and it's gonna

2558
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 7: be last couple of weeks I wanted. I actually not

2559
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 7: even I wouldn't have a grife. I would support a

2560
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 7: South Carolina getting in at that last spot in college

2561
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 7: football playoff. And I'll tell you this too, I don't

2562
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 7: think anybody wants to play South Carolina with that edge rushers,

2563
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 7: with the Nora Sellers, I think they'd be a very,

2564
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 7: very difficult out for whoever they drew.

2565
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember was first game I saw Lenora Sellers

2566
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 3: play and I saw those glasses. No way, this guy

2567
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 3: is nice. He's pretty damn good. Jam. One last question

2568
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 3: for you, deon it.

2569
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: The other day, Travis Hunter had three touchdowns and an interception.

2570
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 2: First player in twenty five seasons to do that. He

2571
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 2: has three career games with ten catches and the interception.

2572
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 2: All other Football Ball Subdivision players since nineteen ninety six JD,

2573
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 2: of which you were one, there's only one guy who's

2574
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:19,560
Speaker 2: done that.

2575
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 3: Travis has done it three times.

2576
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: There's no competition, right, This is something that if we

2577
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 2: talk about the debate between he or Jent or He

2578
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 2: or Shador Sanders, that's just to make TV ratings.

2579
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 3: Right, it's Travis Hunter. It's the high.

2580
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 7: So I've seed it out in several cases throughout the

2581
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 7: last couple of weeks. Hey, the Heisman Trophy rates essentially

2582
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,839
Speaker 7: over like it's Travis Hunter. And then I get someone

2583
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 7: in the mentions pop up and say, are you kidding me?

2584
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 7: Are you watching football?

2585
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 11: This?

2586
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 7: That and the other, And then I'm like, where is

2587
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 7: this coming from? So I go and check out that profile,

2588
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 7: and there is a Boise State header and of course,

2589
01:54:55,400 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 7: of course sure, I mean unless you reside in the

2590
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 7: Potato state, which more power to those folks. What Ashton

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01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 7: Gents is doing is probably Heisman Trophy worthy any other year.

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01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 7: But like we mentioned a couple of times, like what

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01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 7: Travis Hunter is doing not only has never been done,

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01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 7: like we're never going to see this again, and I

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01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 7: truly believe that. And so the narrative that like his

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01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 7: stats aren't good enough on defense, I think it is

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01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 7: just a wildly irresponsible thought because if you're playing corner,

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Speaker 7: the idea is not to have any stats at all,

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Speaker 7: because they're not rolling at So I think that's just

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Speaker 7: a hilarious sentiment in itself. It's Travis Hunters. It's been

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Speaker 7: Travis Hunters for a while. I think Vegas now has

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Speaker 7: his number juiced up to like minus one thousand to

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Speaker 7: a nights and trophies. So I think I think this

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Speaker 7: thing is buttoned up tremendous year by asking gent. But

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Speaker 7: this is Travis Hunter's side, And.

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Speaker 4: To be clear, it is Hei has been worthy candidacy,

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01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 4: He has been Candida is he worthy every other year?

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Speaker 3: It's not dancing Dent's faults.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely that Travis Hunter is both as a top five

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Speaker 2: receiver in a top three, a top five cornerback, and

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Speaker 2: like I said, I didn't do well at math, but

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Speaker 2: that's got to add up to number one.

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Speaker 3: Jay D, thanks for coming on the show, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you. We'll have you on this time next week.

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Speaker 3: It's heating up right now on college football. Thanks pal.

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Speaker 4: That's hey, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say you will

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01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 4: Howard Jersey, you gotta wear it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Jay D, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: get off the air. And you know what, both Schambeckler said,

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Speaker 2: those who stay will be champion champions.

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Speaker 3: So I expect everyone.

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Speaker 2: Sports Football Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Prediction.

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01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 2: By this time next week, you'll hear that song again.

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01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and do it. I'll start by this

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Speaker 2: time next week, eat from Salaam.

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Speaker 3: You're on notice. There's another they're singer at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Be take go ahead, you're up.

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 4: By this time next week, we will have a three

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 4: lost team in the college football playoff.

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01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 3: We absolutely will, and I'll be furious.

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: By this time next week, we will have answered about

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01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: five different questions about Ryan Day's job security, not what

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna do in their next game.

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01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 4: By this time next week, the Lakers will be in

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01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 4: worse position at that point than they were at the

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01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 4: same point with Darvin Ham last year.

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Speaker 3: By this time next week, we'll be having the conversation,

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01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, hold up, were we too fast? Are

2650
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 3: we sure? CJ. Strout's better than Bryce Young? Just hand up?

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01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 3: I am sure, but that's conversation will be happening. By

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01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 3: this time next week.

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01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 4: The Houston Rockets will be first in the West OKAC

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01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 4: at Sacramento at Golden State this week?

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Speaker 3: Man, about a year? How about a year late? Or

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01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 3: you're early on the rightde just to claim that though,

2657
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 3: because you did say they were gonna be good.

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: By this time next week, the New Orleans Saints will

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01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 2: be right back where they are. I know this Rams

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01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: line is a little funny, but the Saints are one

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01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 2: of the worst teams in the NFL. The Rams just

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01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a lack of talent. But

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01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: the head coaching matchup, the Saints are losing this game.

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Speaker 4: By this time next week, another NFL head coach would

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Speaker 4: have been fired. It is either going to be Brian

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01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 4: Dable or Zach Taylor.

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 3: Try of things. Anybody else even eligible? Who Doug e P?

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Speaker 3: Doug e P?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't think he didn't have Trevor

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Speaker 4: for five games. Guys, you can't fire him without his quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Parker thinks Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 3: By this time next week, both the best at sports

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Speaker 3: will remain.

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01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson only lost one game in the NFC got

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Speaker 2: quarterback that though, Daniel Jones