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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Everything. Wow. We welcome to the best show that

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Speaker 1: is on right now in your ears where ever. Cover

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Speaker 1: is Damn speaking from Washington, d C. I'm Cody Johnston.

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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Stole. I am livid at how Cody botched

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Speaker 1: that introduction. Yeah, I mean, you didn't really help things

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Speaker 1: by talking over him as he did it. It was

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Speaker 1: gonna be great. I was going to stick the landing.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, guys, c minus to you both, right. You

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Speaker 1: know it's cost us today. It's cost us today. But

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Speaker 1: the harder I am on Cody, the better he's going

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Speaker 1: to get it. Introducing this podcast, we're really mad at

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Speaker 1: introducing podcast. Robert shut up a hit for like four minutes.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the last podcast you're on. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of Hitler thoughts today. If we

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Speaker 1: want to good, start this episode about the Democratic debates

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Speaker 1: with some Hitler talk. Welcome to the Worst Deer Ever

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Speaker 1: Podcasts Hitler Talk. All right, I'm gonna get this train

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Speaker 1: under control here. Uh this week you're talking about last

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Speaker 1: week's Democratic debate. Now, why are we talking about it today?

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Speaker 1: Several days after the debate. Good question, it's because we

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Speaker 1: haven't done that yet, and where we are an election

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Speaker 1: podcast and we haven't talked about Uh, that's true. We

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Speaker 1: have not talked about the debate. We've talked about them

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Speaker 1: on our show is Robert, but not here on the

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Speaker 1: worst year ever, and it's about goddamn time. Katie. I

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Speaker 1: want to applaud you for finding such an eloquent way

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Speaker 1: week's episode about the debate. I mean, really well done.

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Speaker 1: It's just so that everyone knows I'm moving this week.

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Speaker 1: It's stressful. This seemed like a good but also the

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Speaker 1: other things I said, but also, yeah, that's true, a

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Speaker 1: little less prep work. Um, I did request a debate,

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Speaker 1: and Sophie requests We've been talking about it for a while.

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Speaker 1: It's time. The primaries are actually in full swell, not

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Speaker 1: full swing. Yeah, they are there and they're swinging full swing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, um so yeah, it's it's time. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys think that we've stalled enough and we should

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Speaker 1: start talking about the debates or do we want to

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Speaker 1: stall some more? What was your day? I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about Tom Stire well, and I think It's time

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Speaker 1: we get started. Um cool, let's talk about the debates

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Speaker 1: last week. I how did you guys like? No, let's

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Speaker 1: let's start by talking about the handidates. Who do you

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Speaker 1: think did well? Um? I I I really want to

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Speaker 1: hear what Robert was about to say. I. I'm never

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Speaker 1: going to vote for him because I don't think his

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Speaker 1: actual policies are very good or at all where they

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Speaker 1: need to be. But Andrew Yang can answer a motherfucking question,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I completely agree. UM. I was really

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Speaker 1: impressed by him. Again, I'm the same boat as you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote for him. I I don't

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Speaker 1: think his policies some of them are. He has interesting ideas,

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Speaker 1: but they aren't. They don't. They don't hit home for me.

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Speaker 1: But respect the hell out of that guy. You can

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Speaker 1: answer a question. He speaks to the route a lot,

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Speaker 1: which I think is important. He made a lot of

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Speaker 1: great for a guy who I know is a committed

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Speaker 1: capitalist business owner. Um. He was the most explicitly critical

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Speaker 1: of American capitalism of anyone. Really interesting, and the stuff

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Speaker 1: that he's saying is important and true. Uh. You know again,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about him in the past. You know automation,

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Speaker 1: I think he does oversimplify things a little sometimes, Like

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Speaker 1: I love that moment. He said that before, and I

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Speaker 1: And it's like, that's not that's oversimplifying and that's not

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Speaker 1: mean it's he's the only one to talking about automation politics. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, that's the game. But I do

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Speaker 1: I um. I didn't think. I started this very critical

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Speaker 1: And that's not his fault, um, but it did definitely

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Speaker 1: like his his um, his ads but I don't really

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Speaker 1: like anybody's adsum, even Bernis. They're a little cloying to me. Um.

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg ado Bloomberg makes Cody, what what Bloomberg makes are

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Speaker 1: not ads? They are messages. There's a message message arts. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about the Buddha judge plenty bold type ads

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Speaker 1: that I do. I it was that was sort of

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Speaker 1: a let them fight moment for me. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with this UM. But for Yang

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Speaker 1: number one, I am now understanding why the people who

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Speaker 1: he's positive, he's um and I I find myself surprised

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Speaker 1: my critiques of him is um, I'm very much in

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Speaker 1: it would cause a massive escalation in rent prices because

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Speaker 1: so there needs to be a comprehensive rent control program.

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Speaker 1: other of his fans online complaining about this is that

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Speaker 1: but he's been very vague about how he would do that.

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Speaker 1: would like to see and Andrew Yang with four eight,

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Speaker 1: where this guy's political career could have. Yeah, um, I

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Speaker 1: I agree with so much of what you just said. Um,

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Speaker 1: how do you guys klobaschar did? Because CNN thinks that

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he still exists. But anyway, what did

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Speaker 1: they have to say about Amy? Um? So I know

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Speaker 1: that started with two dozen candidates. Turning in another of

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Speaker 1: a string of strong debate performances. Okay, she landed the

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sanna has a very childish view of these

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Speaker 1: how much she dislikes me. She keeps poking him about

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Speaker 1: probably a combo of all of those, you know, like

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Speaker 1: even if a hedging of bets. Sure, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: you make a great point. I see what Bernie's fans

428
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Speaker 1: do online. Yes, that's a great point. Robert anyway, I know,

429
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Speaker 1: I know, I know. But he's talking about how that

430
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Chuck Todd going on his show and calling them brown

431
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: shirts on talking about how the backlash online and everything

432
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: affected Warren's numbers. And it's a good point. Um, but

433
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, but also, yeah, cut Pete down because

434
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: he's posing a little bit of a threat right now. Sorry, Robert,

435
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: you know, Katie, it's um. You know, I'm just thinking

436
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Speaker 1: about your initial answer because it's a mark of how

437
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: fucking cynical I am that I didn't consider they all

438
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Speaker 1: just might be wanting to be vice president. Um, Like

439
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: I had to think that there was like either something

440
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: dumb or sinister, like oh yeah, maybe they're just they've

441
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: just accepted that he's gonna win and they're angling. They're

442
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Speaker 1: doing the thing that you do. Maybe this is going

443
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Speaker 1: to be a normal election where the guy who clearly

444
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Speaker 1: has the momentum everyone lines up behind. I really yeah,

445
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: but they lined up behind because they want something from him. Um.

446
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: They're politicians, Yeah, politicians, And maybe it's different for the

447
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Speaker 1: different candidates on stage. I don't think Amy klobish Art

448
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: thinks she's got a shot at VP with Bernie administration. Um, yeah, yeah,

449
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: very but Pete is a more direct threat to her.

450
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: Styre and Yang maybe I don't know. I doubt they

451
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: like him. Yeah. I think there's a mix of like,

452
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: I genuinely like him and I'm maneuvering right now. Do

453
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Speaker 1: you guys think that there's a world where Warren would

454
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Speaker 1: be his VP? I used to think so, but after

455
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Speaker 1: this whole thing, I don't know what the optics would

456
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Speaker 1: look like. Man, they were definitely at least she was trying,

457
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: very clearly trying to repair some bridges. Um today or

458
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's still a possibility. Um, I

459
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Speaker 1: think it may be less of a possibility. Like I

460
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: don't think she would ever pick him? Um, I don't

461
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah, I think that well, because I

462
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: think that she would probably lean more towards getting like

463
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Speaker 1: a someone from another wing of the party, maybe like

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Speaker 1: not Tim Caine, that bad example, but like someone a

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Speaker 1: little more moderate than her, maybe to sort of shore

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Speaker 1: up that. Or Castro. I think, oh yeah, I think

467
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Castro would be an amazing He would probably be here picked.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for a Bernie presidency. I'm not gonna pretend

469
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Speaker 1: like I am not. I I support him. I've donated

470
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Speaker 1: as much money to him as I have more to

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Speaker 1: him than I have to warrant actually. Um, but I

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Speaker 1: mean I still love her and I would love a

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Speaker 1: warrn Castro ticket. Yeah. UM, but I think that I

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Speaker 1: think that I think that he it's still a possibility. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think that the like the the rift, the perceived

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Speaker 1: rift that happened, um and all of that drama. Intention

477
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: I think, um, people are very like emotional about it.

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Speaker 1: But I think also like, well, it's politics, and I

479
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: think that, uh, I don't know. I think it's still

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Speaker 1: a possibility that he would pick her, um because I

481
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: think that it would it would definitely unite uh that

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Speaker 1: wing of the party. UM. And I think that obviously

483
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: she's not like she's not the enemy. UM. I think

484
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: people perceive her that way now because they see him

485
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: as the front runner and her is sort of like

486
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: siphoning off some of that support and making it harder

487
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: and easier for people like Pete and so on. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I think that verse is true, reverse is also true. UM.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I was just taking much of Peze's support.

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Speaker 1: But I think that like if if it was decided

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Speaker 1: that was going to be the case. I think they

492
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: would run away with it, like I think it would

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Speaker 1: be something that I wouldn't even worry about at that.

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Speaker 1: Well we should, I mean, yeah, obviously get out there,

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Speaker 1: knock knock on those doors. Should we do it? Should

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Speaker 1: do the thing? Talk about Pete? Do edge? Can we not?

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00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, of course we have to. Okay, let's

498
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: talk about the Mighty booge Peanut butter jugs. Peanut butter jugs,

499
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: that's the nickname, peanut guys, Peanut butter jugs, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're calling. Mum, Mr Pete. What do you want to

501
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: say about Mr Pete today? I don't know. Um, I'm

502
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: just so tired of it all Um. I appreciated that

503
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Andy hates him so much and uh it. I appreciated

504
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: that one exchange where he was asked about the arrests

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Speaker 1: of black people in his uh city is town. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, it's still surprising to me that people don't

507
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: know about that story. People are still like, what are

508
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: you talking about? Why is this? There's a lot of

509
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: stuff about that about his time there that people don't

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Speaker 1: know about. I was I was actually surprised in the

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Speaker 1: Biden ad that they kind of mentioned it a little

512
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Speaker 1: bit um when mostly they're talking about like all the

513
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: little chintzy like oh he put lights in the fountain

514
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I'm not sure if this is the

515
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: exchange that you're speaking about, but i'll throw it out there. Um.

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Speaker 1: There was this one incident where the moderator brought up

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Speaker 1: the rise in African American UH incarcerations the year that

518
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: he became air and how it's increased, and Pete tried

519
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: to kind of talk his way around it, and then

520
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: she was just like, no, you haven't addressed the point.

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that it literally has gone up

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Speaker 1: the year you came into office, and it was a

523
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: pretty important moment. Did I do this justice to private properly? Yeah?

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00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: He His reaction instantly was to lie um and say, well,

525
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: that's not what happened. She was like, well, no, here

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Speaker 1: it is. It is what happened. And then he was

527
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, and it's a problem and we have

528
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: to fix this. Well, but he tied it. So he

529
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: tied it to basically it went up because of it

530
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: was marijuana and gang That's right, That's what he said. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna pose it that that's a terrible way

532
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: to frame it and bad you think you don't think

533
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: blaming the reefer is is a good move in a

534
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: democratic primary, like sort of framing like there's around that reef,

535
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: like maybe that I'm gonna go ahead and say, I

536
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: think the key to winning the selection is going to

537
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: be demonizing marijuana. If there's one thing that unites Americans,

538
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: it's not wanting marijuana specific specifically related to a specific community. Um,

539
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: that's over policed, um, and then tying it to gang

540
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: violence in South Bend, Indiana, Pete UM. And I also

541
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't directly related to this moment, but pretty close

542
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: to it. I love my Elizabeth. Well. Then the moderator

543
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: turned to her and said, do you think Pete's answer

544
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: was sufficient? And she was like, no, that was that

545
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: was That was a good moment. That love it. Whenever

546
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: one of them gets asked a direct question about someone

547
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: like is particularly Pete fucking up and not answering and

548
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: like they're like, no, we fucking didn't answer it, Like yeah,

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00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: I love it. That was a weird Uh did they

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00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: do that a lot? I've never noticed something like that

551
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: of lie. Was that answer good? Yeah? And it's interesting

552
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: that it's happened to her. So the last debate, it

553
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: was they asked about Bernie and then he answered, and

554
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: then she comes and then they turned to her and

555
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: go like, what do you think about that? What we disagree?

556
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: You know, like and then putting them on a spot,

557
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: like really teeing them up to do a Yeah, it

558
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: was a weird tea up. I guess why at like

559
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: and he got answered the question. No, I know, I

560
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: just have never noticed that sort of framing from moderator.

561
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I'm paying attention to

562
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Warrant specifically that I noticed it more with her um,

563
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: which is could absolutely be true. It's strange, it felt.

564
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: I also jumped out at me and I thought, is

565
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: this normal? Yeah, pined my brain, but I thought it

566
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: was a great moment. Yeah, bad answer, Pete. He does.

567
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: He continues to do the thing that I his the

568
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: people who support him want him to do, which is

569
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: say comforting things about unity and moving America forward and

570
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: more than anything else, bringing America like the thing that

571
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Pete is is the candidate of. We can get over

572
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: this partisanships, partisanship and go back to all not caring

573
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: that much about politics. Like, that's what Pete boutage, that's

574
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: the Pete Boudhagage promise, is like we can get through

575
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: the Trump years and go back to, um, you know,

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: liking our presidents. Yeah, it's mostly empty platitudes and nonsense

577
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: that aren't really saying much of anything. Yeah, together mad

578
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Lib sentences strung together that are very generic. I mean

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Speaker 1: they talked. They addressed this point blank in the debate,

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Speaker 1: actually because of some comment that he had made about

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Speaker 1: not even wanting to turn on the impeachment. Um oh

582
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: yeah whatever, yeah, And then Amy Klobachar was like, well, no,

583
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: some of us care deeply about what's happening. Um uh,

584
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: all of it's just politics. Of course, you're misinterpreting what

585
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: he's saying. But also, yeah, that is what he's selling.

586
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: It is we're tired of this. We don't want I'm relatable.

587
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: We're all tired of this monster in the office. We're

588
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: tired of this drama. Why can't it go back to

589
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: being easy? And people aren't scrutinizing us so closely? Right,

590
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: So stop thinking about to stop looking into all this

591
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: stuff so I can present my medicare for all who

592
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: wanted that the penalty for not having insurance is seven

593
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. The man, like the man from Obamacare, his

594
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: plan bumps it up by like six grand unbelievable. I

595
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: do so on this note, I think, um, I think weirdly,

596
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: Marian Williamson has um uh no, but she nailed it.

597
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: So basically, there's this uh, this reporter who was tweeting

598
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: about they're canvassing. So I spoke to a Bernie supporter

599
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: who became a hardcore Mary Anne stand and is now

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00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: firmly in Buddha judges Camp. I tried to convince her

601
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: that pe have no Maryanne energy, but to no avail.

602
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: So her response to this tweet was if you have

603
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: that person's phone number, I will call them myself. And

604
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: then she immediately this quote. I haven't endorsed anyone, because

605
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: there's more than one good progressive and everyone has to

606
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: vote their conscience. But I submit to my supporters that

607
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: someone with no real agenda and no real vision for

608
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: our country beyond a vague notion of inclusion, is nothing

609
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: but a corporate tool. End of What the fuck? How

610
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: is that? How did that happen? She's very passionate about

611
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Pete Judge apparently, apparently he might be the one to

612
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: bring us all together. He really is. It's very interesting

613
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: that everybody wants him to stop, except for you know,

614
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: all the people who vote for him. Yeah. Yeah, everybody

615
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: does seem to want I mean not everybody obviously. Um yeah,

616
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: it's speaking of of tweets and Buddha Judge. Ken Clippenstein

617
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: retweeted this today or yesterday, I don't know, And we've

618
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: talked about it before, but god, it's so beautiful. Pete

619
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: Buddha Judge February gosh. Okay, I, Pete Buddha Judge, politician,

620
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: do henceforth and forth with declare most affirmatively and indubitably

621
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: unto the ages that I do favor Medicare for all,

622
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: as I do favor any measure that would help get

623
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: all Americans covered. Now, if you'll excuse me, potholes weight, Yeah,

624
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: it's working. But I love because like the the whole

625
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: reason to say it that way, for that to be

626
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: the way you frame it is because the point you're

627
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: making is that like, of course I want medicare for all,

628
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: And how stupid of any of you to like ask

629
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: and like it. And then yeah, no, I wasn't. I

630
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: wasn't going to bring it up, but you know, the

631
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: tweets and Peter in the Peatie talkies also like it's

632
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: funny because like this, that's the point. Yeah, of course

633
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: i'd do. I'm you know there here, I'm straight shooter,

634
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: but also literally says like I politician, Like, come on, man,

635
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: why would why would you lead with that? Yeah, he's

636
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: he's evolved, He's evolved his position. I just like most

637
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: affirmatively and indubitably unto the ages. I mean, that's that

638
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: sounds like it has been written, so it shall be.

639
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, are there any other Pete. I'm just I'm

640
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: just dealing with the almost physical um like like it's

641
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: almost like being punched, the amount of shock that comes

642
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: from respecting Mary Anne Williamson for something. It was amaze, amazing.

643
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: That's a great answer. That is that like really well

644
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: worded and phrase. It says everything without like explicitly. So good.

645
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any other debate moments to discuss

646
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: before we take another break? No, I would just I

647
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: enjoy And I think I tweeted this um and this

648
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: preceded the exchange that we talked about. UM, I enjoy

649
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: whenever Pete has asked a question that makes him visibly gulp,

650
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: where you can you can see the fear in his

651
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: eyes and you can watch him swallow very deliberately because

652
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: he is dreading what is about to happen, because because

653
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: he is a lying little shrewdagg Yes, thank you, Robert.

654
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: That is really good. I mean it's mean, but it's good.

655
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: It's good. Hey, it's it's softer than rat, you know, struggling,

656
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: because like all of the nicknames that come easily to

657
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: his name are like but jokes, and you don't want

658
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: anyone to think that I'm like like doing like a

659
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: gay joke, like no, no, no, yeah, So I just

660
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: I've steered clear but shrewd agge. I feel good about

661
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I've landed on a winner. Although that

662
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: also got him. Yeah yeah, we got him to be

663
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: like shrewd, though I don't know shrewd. Oh yeah, that

664
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: could be something spun. He's a shrewd. He's very shrewd

665
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: to jedge exactly. Yeah. Oh, I thought we're gonna do

666
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: like a Dwight shrewt think and I think there's that

667
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: hite if there's a Dwight of this election yes, yes, absolutely,

668
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: assistant to the Bernie Sanders. Ah, yes, the Dwight to

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00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: Bernie's gym. Al right, guys, we're gonna take a really

670
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: quick break and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna

671
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: talk about more things, probably Biden, Joe Biden. While you wait,

672
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: grab a cold broutage, edge everything. So don't don't. We're back, Sorry,

673
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I we sure are. We're back as hell. Um. So

674
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Robert wanted me to start. He wants me to start

675
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: on the fact that Pete is now running on the

676
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm the only candidate on those debate stages in this

677
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: race among the major candidates who's not a millionaire or

678
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: a billionaire. And sorry, Chocolate, I thought you were on

679
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: me talking for a little bit longer. I'm not a

680
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: host of the show. Okay. So here's a couple of

681
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: things about Pete saying this thing. First of I love

682
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: couples of things. First of all, Yeah, but like you've

683
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: got billionaires, like lots of billionaires donated your campaign. Um,

684
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: it's not about your like personal net worth. It's about

685
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: what you stand for and who is fighting for you

686
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and who is donating. Trying to paint yourself as the

687
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't have the backing of big money is

688
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: grotesquely misleading. It's wild that he's like trying to maneuver

689
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: through this and present himself like that. Because also even

690
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: like today, all these Goldman Sacks executives came out this

691
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: in this article being like, Yeah, I really like Pete.

692
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna back Pete. He's got the backing of the

693
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: people he's trying to claim he is not. So I

694
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: don't know Pete. Um, it's like with the Okay, Bertie

695
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Stayers has three million dollars, okay, but like Bernie Sanders

696
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: has all these working class people donating to them. So

697
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: take that into consideration. Bernie Sanders has what I would

698
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: say is an achievable amount of wealth for someone of

699
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: his generation and age to have gotten. I have known

700
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people who by the time they were

701
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: in their seventies and they're fortunate people, but they're not.

702
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: You're not a plutocrat at that right, Like you're You're

703
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: somebody who lived in upper middle class life and um

704
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: was very good about where you put your money and

705
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: also bought a house at the right time. You butt

706
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: a house at the right moment. You're still someone who's

707
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: fundamentally lived in the same world as the rest of us. Yes,

708
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: three million dollars at the age of seventies. Something isn't

709
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: I have been I have always been in the clouds

710
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: and I can no longer remember the ground. Um right, Okay,

711
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: I think we've we've talked about Pete a lot, and

712
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: not to say that we can't talk about him some more.

713
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: But I'd like to talk about Biden. So can we

714
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: talk about minor the Biden? And can I say? Can

715
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I say one more thing about Pete? One more thing?

716
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: And then I'm done? It is true that Pete Boudaj

717
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: is not a millionaire, but he will be. Yes, So

718
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: that's the other thing, right, will be with many millions

719
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: of dollars what he is going. He's a politician. He

720
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: will have millions of dollars. In ten years he will

721
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: be a millionaire. Um, so nice, try Pete. I'm sorry,

722
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: point taken, Point accepted. Good, let's talk about him. I

723
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Speaker 1: bought you guys all matching these shirts. Oh, they say

724
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Speaker 1: we're riding with Biden on his website. Don't give him

725
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: that money. That's nine to make themselves. No, Sophie, can

726
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: we can? We don't spend the money on that, spend

727
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: the money on setting up a new line of Bernard

728
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Montgomery Sanders shot JFK on the Glass Knoll with a

729
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: man liquor carcano rifle. I think that's the T shirt

730
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: to bring America together and then put at the bottom

731
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: Biden might be the T shirt that gets us so.

732
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: But um, all right, I have one moment that jumped

733
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: out at me that I wanted to talk about when

734
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, look here, Jack, I tell you what,

735
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: all right, come on sort of Um, we're talking the

736
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: gun debate and that and that is something where people

737
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: can come for Bernie a little bit about his record,

738
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: and Biden, you know, is up there saying that Bernie

739
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: should be held accuntable accountable for his past gun votes.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we we need to be held accountable

741
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: for these things, for the things we've done in the past.

742
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, okeyly do we now, okay, let's

743
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: talk about that a bit more and some of your record. Um, yeah,

744
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: told Bernie accountable for being slightly less in favor of

745
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: gun control than most of the other candidates. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

746
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: you want to talk about how Joe Biden is the

747
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: reason we have civil asset forfeiture and this nation we

748
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: can we don't need to know. That doesn't seem relevant.

749
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: A how how? How did you do you want to

750
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: talk about how Joe Biden pushed for an assault weapons

751
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: band that didn't ban assault weapons because it was written

752
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: by people who don't know anything about guns. Sure we

753
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: could are about that too. Do you want to uma?

754
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Or have we talked about it enough by mentioning it

755
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: at all? Um? How did you guys feel Biden did

756
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: up there? I never think Biden does a great job.

757
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm just always stressed out watching him talk. Yeah, he

758
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: there's a there's this sort of frustrated confusion that he

759
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: brings to the stage in his answers, and so oftentimes

760
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: when he is asked something, when he talked about something,

761
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I can sense that he's very frustrated and confused. Um,

762
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: which I don't think bodes well for any sort of

763
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: debate with Donald Trump. Um. But yeah, I don't know.

764
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: And also I think he also doesn't necessarily say anything

765
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot of times. And I alluded to it by saying, hey,

766
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: look here, Jack, He's got a lot of that that energy. Yeah,

767
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: look here, Jack. I wouldn't be surprised if he's got

768
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: some serious anger management problems. I mean, there's you could

769
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I countless videos of him like shoving his finger in

770
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: people's chests. I'm just waiting for the video to drop

771
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: of him calling Lily Tomlin sa words. Right. So here's

772
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: and here's here's where I met with est guys. Go ahead.

773
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I'm struggling now with Joe

774
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: Biden is that he does seem confused and and there's

775
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: a frustration that I think he has a lot of um.

776
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of these videos of him

777
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: being asked questions by people who are potential voters and

778
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: him like man handling them, grabbing their jackets, zipping them up,

779
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: for him shoving him with a finger. Recently, he was

780
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: asked a question about the Iowa caucus and he said, hey,

781
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Speaker 1: have you ever been to a caucus? And she said yes,

782
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: and he called her at eying dog face pony soldier.

783
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Now he was doing it in a jokey way. No,

784
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: I is it so that one's unfair? Yeah, I mean,

785
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of thing. You know, I'm not

786
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna give Joe Biden credit. Guy, I

787
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: don't like Joe Biden, I don't think he's a good candidate.

788
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: But like when I heard that people talk about it

789
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I was like, oh my god, Joe Biden

790
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: like like flipped out on some poor girl. And then

791
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: when I watched it, I was like, no, that was

792
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: like a joking air. The cloud was crowd clearly laughed.

793
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: It's a lion. He's used like he was he was

794
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: trying to be folksy, and like, I'll tell you what though,

795
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: that girl was like a college kident or something. Doubt

796
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: she's like from the judgment of deciding to use that

797
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: reference to a young woman dog face pony soldier, no

798
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: one knows what that means. Calling a woman dog face

799
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: not a good look. But it was mischaracterized. I think

800
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Speaker 1: that's fair. I saw I didn't see the reaction first

801
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: and the clip first. Yeah, um, and it still bothered me.

802
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: But like you know, we've all got I don't know,

803
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: it's like, it's weird. It's a weird confrontational way to

804
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: talk to voters. Um, and especially in this age where

805
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: we're calling anything uh Trumpian, like even if it's jokey,

806
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, is that Yeah, I think

807
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: that I think that we do ourselves a disservice if

808
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: we mischaracterize things a lot. You know, then your but

809
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I totally I hear you, and I agree with you.

810
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Like there's something off about the way he talks in that. Yeah,

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00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I read something about people are like trying to check

812
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: to see if that was an actual quote, and the

813
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: last thing I read was like, we haven't found it.

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Speaker 1: But John Wayne did do a ton of movies, So

815
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: it's so like the situation is like, you know, they

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00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: found Like I've seen where it's from. It's um, I'm

817
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: based on the name, but the Lione he he doesn't

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00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: say the exact one and is like dog faced soldiers

819
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: and he added an extra coup um. But like, yeah,

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00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: it's it's even if it's joke, it's weird to react

821
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: that way when you're asking a voter a question. She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've into a caucus, and then I don't know. It's

823
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: it's definitely he's he's a he's an old man who

824
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: doesn't understand the world, making references nobody gets because his

825
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: brain is dead, right, and especially in the context of

826
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: all these other instances of him, uh kind of like

827
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: tell like telling people why to go vote for somebody else,

828
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: and the shoving, the finger in the chest, all that

829
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So my my struggle that I'm dealing

830
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: with now, which is what I was starting with about

831
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: this whole Biden thing, is that I think that there's

832
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: a decent chance that if Joe Biden was on the

833
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: stage with Donald Trump during a debate and he got

834
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: a little confrontation, a little frustrated he was called a

835
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: name or something like that, I think that what we're

836
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: seeing now would bubble up and he might actually start

837
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: shoving Donald Trump. That's why I might vote for Joe,

838
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: But I doubt that. Texting I'm I'm texting Joe to

839
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Speaker 1: three oh three three oh right now as you should

840
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: threatening to kiss my girlfriend. Joe Biden is texting me,

841
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kiss your girlfriend's son. Get out of here. Okay, okay, okay,

842
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: let's bring this back to the debate. But all opinion,

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Speaker 1: I think this was the first debate where I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was like taking a napa y energy and

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Speaker 1: he seemed like he was energy. He was energy. He

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Speaker 1: had taken like the right caffeine pill, caffeine pill, and

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Speaker 1: and he came in like ready to he was. He

848
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Speaker 1: seemed like ready to defend himself. Yeah, um, which she

849
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Speaker 1: needs to be. Where lost Iowa in past debates? I

850
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Speaker 1: thought he was more like heat he was. He was

851
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Speaker 1: like hiding a bit. He also say we might not

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Speaker 1: do well in New Hampshire. It was amazing, ye, Iowa,

853
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Speaker 1: we might not do well in New Hampshire, but we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something. He said was like hey, I suway,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck again next week, but I'm still here baby. Um.

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Speaker 1: The other moment I wanted to bring up that made

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Speaker 1: me cringe, and it wasn't just his fault, but he

858
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Speaker 1: was a part of it. The three men up there

859
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Speaker 1: debating about who who was most popular with black people.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Buddha, Judge, Bernie and Biden. I

861
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Speaker 1: was like, well, have you seen numbers? Have you seen?

862
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, this is not a good

863
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Speaker 1: White dudes talking about their black friends. That was a

864
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Speaker 1: weird moment and not a comfortable one. The good news,

865
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Speaker 1: I guess, is that there's no the Republicans don't have

866
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Speaker 1: a less weird racial thing to point towards positive spin. Yeah. Yeah,

867
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party not as racist as those other gas yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: least racist of the two racists. There any other really

869
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Speaker 1: big points you guys wanted to bring up from this week? No,

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking about how everybody doesn't like Pete on stage.

871
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Speaker 1: What did you think of everyone's closing statements? Because everybody

872
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Speaker 1: was talking about how strong statement was at the end.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's actually yeah, so I did want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this closing statement was largely about empathy. Um, and

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Speaker 1: I found it a little off knowing that she abuses

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Speaker 1: her staff. Is that true or is that I think

877
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Speaker 1: it's like there's a lot of reporting on her history

878
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Speaker 1: of that, like people being like, I'm not gonna work

879
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Speaker 1: I believe that. Then I've seen a lot of people,

880
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's ridiculous. I'd love she's a great boss,

881
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: and but that could be somebody that's put up for it.

882
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 1: And like even like when the New York Times, uh,

883
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: they did their interviews with all of them. Yeah, but

884
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: like when they're talking about that, they like hand waved

885
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: it away. They're like, yeah, she's allegedly abusive of her staff,

886
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: but um, you know that just is the mark of

887
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Speaker 1: like not hiring good people. It was it was a weird,

888
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: like blaming the staff for getting abused. But uh, my

889
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: main point is that I think the message overall is

890
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: a good thing to keep coming to. UM. I liked

891
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Speaker 1: that she brought up empathy. UM. I guess also part

892
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: of me wishes, you know, if you're if you're gonna

893
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: talk about that, UM. And I believe that she believes it,

894
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Speaker 1: like it wasn't like, oh, she's doing an act or whatever. UM.

895
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: I would want the policies to reflect that empathy a

896
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Speaker 1: little more, UM and her approach to things and what

897
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Speaker 1: she actually wants to a pomplish. UM. So I don't

898
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Speaker 1: know that was mine. I'll be honest, Sophie. I don't

899
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Speaker 1: really remember much about their closing statements. I was going

900
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Speaker 1: to try to vamp right now, but you're doing it.

901
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm suffering from debate fatigue. Earlier

902
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: in the episode, you said that you thought this was

903
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Speaker 1: a more substantive debate, and I agree with you it was,

904
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Speaker 1: But I still am feeling myself, Yeah, like my eyes

905
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: rolling back in my head sometimes. Very season and elections

906
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: in general in this country happened way too early and

907
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: they last way too long. And every cycle they happened

908
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: earlier and they last longer. And it is maddening, and

909
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: we're getting closer and closer to uh. Just it's there's

910
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: always an election going on, and it's all consuming and

911
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: it's very, very frustrating and exhausting. And I'm hoping that

912
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: the next president um uh, if they go let's say

913
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: two terms, they accomplished quite a bit. I hope that

914
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: their last move is to a polish the presidency, like

915
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: no more presidents that I agree, And I want to

916
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: talk about something else close, which is the great, the

917
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: great mystery of this campaign to me? So Tom stire

918
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: Right born in ninety seven. His father was a prosecutor

919
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: at the Nuremberg trials and then a partner in a

920
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: major New York law firm. Um. His mom was a

921
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: reading teacher. But he comes from money, you know, partner

922
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: to major New York law firm. Dad's a big time prosecutor.

923
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: UM graduates from Yale. UH founds a hedge fund. UH

924
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: makes one point six billion dollars, taking huge risks on

925
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: distressed assets. Why does he love Bernie Sanders? What I

926
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: need to understand Why a billionaire hedge fund manager has

927
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: such a deep love for Bernard Sanders? What happened? I

928
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: have a theory. We have theory. I think it goes

929
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: back to high school. I think that he's always been

930
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: his kid in the little plaid tie, and nobody liked him.

931
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Speaker 1: I love him, but yeah, they're cute as a kid.

932
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: Nobody liked it as a kid. Um. And he's enamored

933
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: with Bernie's popularity. He wants friends, um. And I think

934
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Speaker 1: I think that he wants to be a part of

935
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Speaker 1: the cool kids club. He wants young people to like him.

936
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's that too, Yeah, yeah, so I think there's voices.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot to that. I think

938
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Speaker 1: that there's wanting to be liked. Um. I do think

939
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Speaker 1: that he does care about climate change quite a bit,

940
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Speaker 1: and I would say that Bernie has the strongest climate plan. Um.

941
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: But I think in general my theory you're getting a

942
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Speaker 1: little allowed for me. In general, I think that my

943
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: theory is that Bernie is good actually, and uh, Tire

944
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, he's good. I like him, I think, sure,

945
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe it could be your your

946
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: theory makes sense. I don't believe it's just a popular

947
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: the way he approached Bernie. I can't stop thinking of

948
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Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about the No one does that

949
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: in politics. I just wanted to walk into two. I

950
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: have this idea in my head that there was some

951
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: sort of mixer at some point and they had like

952
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: the start of a good conversation and maybe maybe he's

953
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: socially awkward and you know, not good at making friends.

954
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: And keep coming back to that, and he's like, well,

955
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Speaker 1: we am starting a really good conversation. Like I got

956
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Speaker 1: to make sure that I say hi to Bernie to

957
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: solidify this, got to make sure you know, um yeah,

958
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he wants to be the vice president

959
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: and he sees the writing on the wall, tomm um.

960
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: It is a very fascinating moment. It is interesting, right,

961
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I do come back to it a lock about it,

962
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: like not to sit down and have dinner with Tom

963
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: Stu from everything surrounding that moment. It's just there's just

964
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: something about it. There's just something about in that moment.

965
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, here we go here, here's why this matters.

966
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: The entire thing about running for president, about seeking the presidency,

967
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: about running a campaign is a quest to hide yourself

968
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: from America, is to hide yourself from voters, because no

969
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: voter wants to vote for anyone's true self, because no

970
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: true human being is fit to be a president, and

971
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: so the whole process of running for president is about

972
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: hiding the aspects of yourself that are real that would

973
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: convince everyone. Oh no, Um, Tom Stire revealed the sort

974
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: of thing that you're not supposed to reveal, which is

975
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: that he, at the end of the day, is a

976
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: little boy who wanted to shake hands with his hero

977
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: that's never seen that. Yeah, it's it's it was something else.

978
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's so important to him. It's that he

979
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: stumbled in between two clearly fighting people. Yeah, it's there's

980
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: something like, it's bizarre, it's refreshing a little bit. Um,

981
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: you got me convinced. I'm voting for give me a little,

982
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: a little hope I'm gonna throw away my vote. Um,

983
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be something else. When he's like, I'm

984
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: a billionaire and I endorse Bernie Sanders so that I

985
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: can hang out with him sometimes, Yeah, like that too often,

986
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: just enough, just like a call every couple of weeks,

987
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, FaceTime, FaceTime. Alright, guys, I think we really

988
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: we really did it. Today. We talked about that finally,

989
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: talking about a debate on this show about how everything

990
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: is bad, and I feel confident saying it's the best

991
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: debate breakdown that ever was. And I feel confident in

992
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: saying that all of us at Worst Year Ever are

993
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: now on the same page. STAYR Kazinski. Can I get

994
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: each of you to do a clothing statement? Please? And

995
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Speaker 1: that's how I am closing this episode, And that is

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Speaker 1: my statement. I power move passionately want to say the candidates.

997
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Speaker 1: End of statement, Robert. I would also like to meet

998
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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, and I hope that when I do, he

999
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: is in the middle of a red faced, livid fight

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Speaker 1: with his wife, and I just I want to stumble

1001
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Speaker 1: right in the middle of that and offer him my

1002
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Speaker 1: hand as he is crying. Yeah, I just want I

1003
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Speaker 1: just want to Yeah, good, okay from Bernie, you know, alright, yes, okay,

1004
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Speaker 1: that like very resounding praise and acceptance. Yeah good, okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I don't I wonder how often he

1006
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Speaker 1: said growing up dismissively. Um, alright, guys. You can find

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Speaker 1: us online at Worst Year, Pod, Twitter, Instagram, Am, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Those are the places Google dot com, Google dot com,

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Speaker 1: great week a week. Follow all of them on the

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Speaker 1: social meds and Sophie SOPI has. Sophie has a new

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Speaker 1: Instagram Twitter if you want to get a taste of

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Speaker 1: Sophie's really shockingly hard right politics um Scott, I was

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Speaker 1: very kind started before that was going and was slightly

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Speaker 1: relieved by where it ended, but not really Yeah. Follow

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Speaker 1: Sophie at Underscore at Why Underscore Sophie Underscore, why the

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Speaker 1: We've all plugged each other. Wo god, we're so bad

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Speaker 1: at ending this podcast. Also, we all really just we

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Speaker 1: just like each other, so we want to keep talking.

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Speaker 1: We're all friends here. I mean I kind of want

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Speaker 1: to go. Nobody got it. I didn't get it. You're

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Speaker 1: the berm stre you don't want to handle with this.

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Speaker 1: That's a good bit. It was good, Sophie. We're all

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Speaker 1: friends here, guys. We are all friends here, guys, my

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Speaker 1: friends here and by everything Worst Youer Ever is a

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