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I want you to stop 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above bigger 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: obstacles that life is about to present to you. The 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to the listener 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: about career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and how to live a balanced life. My next guess 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: is on the phone. I'm so happy I saw HBO special. Uh. 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: She is a Nigerian American actress, comedian, and writer. Her 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: projects includes starring as Molly on HBO's critical acclaimed comedy 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: series Insecure. Her first one hour stand up comedy special 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: for HBO, Mama Made It. It is also available on 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: HBO Now, HBO Go, HBO on Demand, HBO every or 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: anything has HBO on it. She's on it Okay. She 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: is co hosting her podcast and the upcoming faith based book. 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about this coming out 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: in One Bamboo Zoo by Jesus Hi. God tricked me 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: into the life of my dreams. Please work on the 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: money making conversations, my girl, Yvonne or Gy, what's going on? Well? 53 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, now one watching the special, 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm going I see a rock star. I see Beyonce, 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I see Kelly Roland coming out there, just bouncing on 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: the stage. Now, I'm telling you something. I'm a former 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: stand up comic. I don't want to claim it because 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I've been on stage in many years, but you came 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: out lit, You came out and brought the heat at 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of your stand up. Is that how all 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: your sets or you just made it special for that 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: for the HBO special. Oh no, that's I'm high. I 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: told I told h I said, I'm gonna give you 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: part documentary, part music video, part comedy special. They were 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: like what. I was like, this rock with me on this, 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: rock with me on this And that's why I really, 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, really wanted Chris Robinson to direct my special 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: because he you know, Chris Robinson, He's done any music 69 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: video do you think of that was bombed Chris robinsons 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: while behind it and some ways people for want and 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: so I was like, and he's also a hometown he 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: wrote um um and so uh he goes from d 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: NBA stage when I was like, what home down he 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: goes from the d m V um But yeah, no, 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: on my shows, the hype like I I'm one of 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: those times that come off with a lot of energy 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of the off time like offer it 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: because I think they just texts the phone. I feel 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: like if I feel like if the audience was having 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: a good time, I mean they're gonna have a good 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: time with the jokes. Blade you get them like we 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: could guard down, Like I want to be happy up 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: here and I want you to be happy over there. 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: So if we all on the same thing at the 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: let's rock, I think that, Yeah, you do that okay 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: because I'm will tell you this because I'll see the 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: character and insecure your lawyer. You you know, you really 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: don't show that type of energy on this on this 89 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: series that you become famous for. And so when you 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: came out on the stage like that and you know 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: you're looking find it you was tall, statue was have 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: right and everything he was rocking and and everything is 93 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: running from side to side of the stage. That was 94 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: a positive play on my energy sitting at the house. 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: So I know it. I know it played big in 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: that theater, Howard Theater in d C. Oh solutely absolutely. 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean the camera pans to the audience and they 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: were like I had I had the artist mid Low, 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: So that that was an original track, creative specifically for 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the trailer and the artist mid Low. She did her 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: sting on that on on that track, and so it 102 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: was like to be able to give back the time 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: and the space for it to breed, for it to 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh Mama, we made it, you know, and 105 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: and just everyone not knowing what to look back and 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: it's like okamanthas, okay, what we do? You know. It 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: wasn't just like an entrance song. It was like, no, 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: we're making an entrance. You made an interest. You made 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: a not Leagos, Nigeria. You know, we cut, we do 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: interplay on the inserted in the whole process. And fell 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: in love with your mom. I know she's taken care of. 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: I know what. She's still there. You know because when 113 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: you when you brought the groceries in, I would tell 114 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: you something. When you brought the cinema raising bagels, I 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: believe in then the cinema bread, I would that's my 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: girl right there. See, that's how I eat. I reached. 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I I love cinnamon toasts with the little raisins in it, 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and I love the cinemaon episode. So when you when 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you brought that in, me and her were on the 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: same page. We could eat breakfast together every day of 121 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: the week. And I said, but it was just a 122 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: really really natural atmosphere. Did you created you just want 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to show people where you came from and I also 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: going back and showing everybody, you know, you really did 125 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: make it, even oh, I'll create that. I'm in. I'm 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: in the prophet of continuing to make it. I made 127 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: it this far, but there is there's far more to go. 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: How about that? But I think that's funny because that 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: was one of those things that I can even right. 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: You can't even right. I'm giving all these things and 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: she still hung up on one thing that I did 132 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: not deliver. And I'm like, luck, But you know the 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: thing about when I said you made it? You know, 134 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: I come from the hood. You know, six sisters, two brothers, 135 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: father was a truck driver, mom graduated from high school 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: and uh and everywhere you know, you have gold. So 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: I could tell you from your from watching your career, 138 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: watching the special, your goal or in it, and you 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: also are blessed by the opportunities that have been received 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: by you, and so you at each point. I feel 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: that when you said, when I said you've made it, 142 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: this is like winning the super Bowl, you want to 143 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: win another super Bowl, you know, but You're gonna tell 144 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: everybody I wanted this super Bowl. And I felt that 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: that's what they're special. When I was watching it, watching 146 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you return home and legos was it was it was. 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: It was a testament to saying, look you can do it. 148 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing it, okay, and I'm gonna come here and 149 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: show you. HBO is gonna follow me. I'm bringing my 150 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: boy Chris with me. He gonna direct me, and we're 151 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: gonna throw down at Howard Theater and I'm gonna show 152 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: you where I came from, to show you that I 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: came from over here. My family is still living. They 154 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: get to share your brother, get to share in your love, 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: and get to tell less story. That's what I'm saying 156 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: when I say you made it, because believe me, I 157 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: know your journey to greatness. It's still it's still at 158 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the top of the iceberg. Okay. I appreciate that, man, 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm like you. I appreciate you lessing me in seeking 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: good life over my life now obviously but obviously, well, 161 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: you know the thing about it is that we know. 162 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: The thing about it is that as as a female 163 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: stand up comedian, you know, I know as a stand 164 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: up it's tough for African American stand up. Before death 165 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Comedy Jam came along, I was doing jokes, you know, 166 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Jared Fine Fair Dnnis Leary, Sam Kenniston and all that. 167 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Then Death Comedy Jam came out and it opened a 168 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: whole new world for black comedy to come to the mainstream, 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: start feeling the venue, start feeling the comedy clubs. And 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: then being a female comedian, you know, there's a different 171 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: path to that. Talk about your life as a female 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: stand up coming up. I know you opened for Chris Rock, 173 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: but there's a journey and a path that you have 174 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: to deal with being a female stand up, and especially 175 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: being a black female stand up. Can you talk about 176 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: that we talk about the path. No, no, I'm just 177 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: talking about the path you take as a stand up. 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: But of course being a black female stand up, that's 179 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: a different journey too because of the fact that it's 180 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a male dominated industry. For sure. I mean, and I think, 181 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: I think, I think the fact that God made me 182 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: night hearing, which is you you got to have like 183 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a thick a thick skin, boy, you got to do that. 184 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: And then you're in a rough We even say good morning, rough, 185 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: good morning, Why are you jealous? Why do you why 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: are you gonna? Says so we we kind of have 187 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: that stuff demeanor, and then you know, I grew up 188 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: with three older brothers. Dad for god that I was 189 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: a girl, like they said that absolutely, So I think 190 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: that was all preparation. You know. Sometimes you think it 191 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: like why am I in this family? But then it's like, oh, 192 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I had to be in the family, 193 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, to learn these things because y'all was gonna 194 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: open up the door for me to be in this 195 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: profession that you know is male dominated. But I come 196 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: from the heavily patriarchical society, so this this is no 197 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: biggie you know. 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That's O T T E r. 255 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Dot ai. You know, I'm not gonna tell people the jokes. 256 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell people your routine. I'm gonna tell 257 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: people this. You came out on the stage lit if 258 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: you do not miss the opening, because she's on fire 259 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: on the opening and she carries that fire into her humor. 260 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of comments to do that. 261 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: They come out and stay with a lot of energy 262 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: and in the show kind of like every five minutes 263 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: gets less and less funny. That is not happening here, Okay, 264 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. They come out there 265 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: and be jumping around and be clapping in everything, and 266 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: crowd be tired. They tidy worked the crowd out. They 267 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: be tired, and you come out there. And the thing 268 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: about it is me, as a former stand up I 269 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: always look at people that go if they do material 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: that go You know, I never thought of that. I 271 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: would never have thought of that joke. You do a 272 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of that. You're coming. You're very observational, You're very 273 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: socially gifted and understanding how you can just always tell 274 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: people about jokes. You know, every good joke is a 275 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: hard right or hard left. You know, it throws you 276 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: for a curve, and you you do a very good 277 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: job of that and honing that skill. And so when 278 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: you when you talk about your stand up, efore what 279 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: journey you're trying to tell people when your own stage? 280 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: Are you trying to relate to any it to the women? 281 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: Are you trying to make a statement to the guys? 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Are you just trying to be funny? Well, I appreciate that, 283 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: you know. I think I think humor for me in 284 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: my life. I think there's a place and entertainment to 285 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: uh for humor and education, right, I think you know, 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: or or to entertain and to educate, I should say, 287 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: um and content. And you know, I know it's like 288 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: you don't know a little comedy show again a lecture, 289 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: but it's like, no, comedy is the way where you 290 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: learn the most you know in such a digestible form. Right, 291 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: every every comedian is teaching you something. You're teaching you 292 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: about them. They're teaching you about the way they see 293 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the world. They're teaching you about like aw, you a 294 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: problem with to the world. But you didn't know and 295 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: so um you know through my jokes and through my humor, 296 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I didn't. Uh. I know that my crowd is heavily female, right, 297 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I know I have the young female population who are 298 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: like they hight you know what I'm saying. Somebody or 299 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: was Junior uh he I love him so much. He 300 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: came to my show in New York and he was like, 301 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: first of all, you got a crowd that lays out 302 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: their clothes the night before so they get ready. You're 303 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: He's like, you you kind of a crowd that they 304 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: lay out there closely, like we called theron organ show. 305 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: We got look fraid. I was like when God blessed it. 306 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: And then he was like, you got the gamely employed crowd. 307 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: You got the people who you know, they bought tickets early. 308 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: You know That's what I saw im, That's what I saw. 309 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: I saw. I saw a contractive crowd. I just throw 310 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: in a common the club called hip hop comm and 311 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: just stopped and I told everybody. When the good looking 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: women started showing up to my club, I knew I 313 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: was a hit, you know, because because that's you know, 314 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: the brand was on fire then, because once they show 315 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: up and lay out them club and make an appointment 316 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: that they're gonna come here and spend their dollar and 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: spend two or three hours of day time someplace. That's 318 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: what I got. So I was, I was. It was 319 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: like a look back on me, going, Wow, she really 320 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: is carried a weight of of of a group of 321 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: people for for the next ten, fifteen, twenty years. That's 322 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a growing fan base. But I know, I 323 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: just gotta switch gears right quick and congratulate you because 324 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: we don't talk about the fact that we are talking 325 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: about your HBO special Mama I Made It, which premieres 326 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: on HBO June six, but being renewed on Insecure for 327 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: another season. Why the season is still going on? Talk 328 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: to me about that energy, talk about that love for 329 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the series and the characters that you share the screen 330 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: with on that show. Man, I I hit a bet that. 331 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: I was, like, this is amazing one the season is 332 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: still going on? To me in the middle of a 333 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: band Melge like down and NBO believes in the shows 334 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the like Now, I'll kind of that was ever anyone worried? 335 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Never then let outside open up again, y'all go, y'all 336 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: gonna going to productive and if at the time we 337 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: don't even know what productions are gonna look like, but 338 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: it feels like but we we're gonna figure out what 339 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: the fiftie don't look like. Um And so I just 340 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: thought that was a blessing. I really did. I thought, like, wow, 341 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: that was a blessing. And also how they believe in 342 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: us as well, um, as a show and as and 343 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: and what they know that our show does, the community 344 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: of creatives, in the community of fans who are watching 345 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: every weekend. So now it's it's great. I look forward 346 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: to seeing the stories you get to tell. You know, 347 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: efty year in a row. You know, you're an all 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: romantic this season. You know, we got your ball, you know, 349 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: can y'all got town to spend with each other, you know, 350 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: but it's a very romantic season for you. This said 351 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: this this year, so we gotta definitely carried it over 352 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: to the next. Of course, I don't know what's happening 353 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: and how that relationships kind of in and I'm not 354 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna tell anybody about the relationship. You just need to 355 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: watch Insecure. I'm talking to Eon or look here the third, 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. We know this country is gonna be 357 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: opened up. We know June six, you have a special 358 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: on HBO that's gonna be on fire. I'm telling she's 359 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: rocking the stage. She's lit the cross led, she brings 360 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: the comedy for one entire hour. They have it to 361 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: cuts in it that goes back to her hometown. You 362 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: get to see a family, get to see the community 363 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: gets here, how she grew up a little bit of 364 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: her fan base and Legos Nigeria. My boy Chris Robinson, 365 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: I do know him back in the back in two 366 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: thousand we shot uh Fitch video together, so I know 367 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: the talent that he brings to the table. You went 368 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: back to Howard Theater and watching the DC to do it. 369 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Ivan your special girl, And I am not saying you've 370 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: made it, but you had to tell your mama that 371 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: you did make it when you take this HBO special. 372 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Girl, Yes, yes I did so. 373 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: I think she knows it. I think I just need 374 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: to keep reminding her like, Mama, no, we made we did, 375 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: mom used to be right. Well, you know it. It's 376 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: a it's a tender moment in the end of a 377 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: special where you know when you got emotional, all comedy aside, 378 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: when you're the realization that you was able to call 379 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: home and say that and that that was a point 380 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: your moment for me because you know, we're on struggle 381 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: and we we're trying to define our success sometimes based 382 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: on what other people are doing. But but in that 383 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: moment that you talk about it in in the individual, 384 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: in the video, in the in the end of the 385 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: one hour special about calling home, can you before we 386 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: wrap up the show, can you just talk about that 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: for a couple of seconds and and we're signed off 388 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: and tell everybody watch your special. June six, I'm talking 389 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: to Evonne Orgy to starve and secure the star of 390 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: our HBO special, star of the podcast. She has to 391 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: do book coming out there when she comes to our 392 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: bamboosted by Jesus, how God tricked me into a life 393 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: of my dreams that's coming out in one she'd be 394 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: back on the show and talk about that. This show 395 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: we just talked about how she was just tan the stage, 396 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: put it on fire. But on that stage when you're 397 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: putting on the fire the end of the special, you 398 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: got emotional on me. Evonn talk to me about that. 399 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: I did. I did because it was it was a 400 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: full circle moment. Man. When I moved to New York, 401 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: and you know this as a comic, it was it 402 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: was a whole bunch of bring the shows, but I 403 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't bring nobody here. I didn't bring nobody needs in 404 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: New or by myself. And it was like, well, in 405 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: order for you to get stage time, you need five 406 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: friends saying full price and a to drink minimal. I'm like, bro, 407 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: if I did have friends, I'm about to move all 408 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: of them, trying to you know, work out the five 409 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: and into material. So it was one of those like 410 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: moments of like the rubber about to meet the roads. 411 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: And because I'm not Durian and we're so entrepreneurial in 412 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: our mindset, and because I'm a woman of faith, I'm 413 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: just like all things are possible. Uh. And so there 414 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: was an open mic that somebody was giving up. They 415 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: were like moving out of town and they were just 416 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: like we need somebody to big up with the room. 417 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: And it was me and a whole rack of young 418 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: male comics and nobody was jumping and after me, I 419 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: was doing it. I didn't know nothing about running nobody's room, 420 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: but I was like, no, I'll run the road because 421 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: the way my mind thought was good. And if I 422 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: can't get face timed anywhere else, I'm gonna get at 423 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: least one day a week two hours on the stage 424 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: was perfecting my and everyone that I'm running and they 425 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: just look, I get to meet other comics. I'm in 426 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: the community that I'm struggling to get into because they're 427 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna want to come to me to get a stop. 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: So like I'm gonna read the book us Like it 429 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: was just it just felt like this is what I'm 430 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna do. This just makes the most sense. And it 431 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: was one of those opportunities that presented itself not as 432 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: a lucrative opportunity by any means, because it cost me 433 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: on that show. It cost you to buy an amplifier 434 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: and a good mic and learn it like it was 435 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: a real world and not just like a stop on 436 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: another comment, you know, open mic in order to get 437 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: to the next show. So you know, but what came 438 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: from that was the name and I called it. My 439 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: mom made it. Because at that moment, I was like, man, 440 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't it be dope if, like, you know, a 441 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: booker for any of these late night you know shows 442 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: came by and they could see you and then they 443 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: could put you on. I dream, I dreamt big, I 444 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: still dream me. I'm like, wouldn't that be dope? If 445 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: that's what this room was set up to do? And like, 446 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: because who doesn't want to call home to sell their mom? 447 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Like mom made it? Uh? And so that was the hope. 448 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: That was the anticipation behind the open night night. And 449 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: when it came t to do the special, I was like, Yo, 450 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: this is a full circle moment right now, Like I 451 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: get I get that, have that dream of me trying 452 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: to put other people on, so now me getting put on. 453 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: And that's why that's that's why I love choked up 454 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: at the end, you know, fire girl, I'm gonna let 455 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: you go here. We're up against the Clark. I want 456 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: to see the June six is HBO special. I'm talking 457 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: to the fantastic, the tall, the funny, the beautiful from Lagos, Nigeria. 458 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: She's entrepreneurial, she got multiple jobs, multiple skills. You've seen 459 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: it on Night School. You see her every sun on 460 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Insecure be renewed, so she knows she has a job 461 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: in the future. She knows she has a funny HBO special. 462 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: So you have a lot of jobs in the fall. 463 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: My friend, I always know you can come to Money 464 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Making Conversation and talk to ras Sean McDonald. You keep 465 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: winning all right. I appreciate you. If you want to 466 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: hear more episodes of Money Making Conversation, go to Money 467 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald. I'm your host 468 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: von Girl. 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