1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Monday episode of Fair 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: Territory with Ken Rosenthal. As you can see, that is 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: not Ken Rosenthal. I am absolutely privileged to be joined 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: by my friend Tim Kirchin, of course does a tremendous 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: job covering Major League Baseball on ESPN, the twenty twenty 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: two BBWAA Career Excellence Award recipient, as well as the 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: co host of Is This a Great Game or What? 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: With his son Jeff, part of the Foul Territory Network. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: More on the show in a few minutes. Tim, great 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to be with you. Thank you for spots. Starting for Ken, 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: It's awesome to have you on the show. I am 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: very interested in knowing what your takeaway is from last 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: night's game. Usas win two to one over the Dominican Republic. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: What did you think? Well, it was a great game, 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and it's just another reminder how great the young players 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: are in today's games. Look at the three guys who 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: hit home runs last night. They are part of an 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: incredibly bright future for Major League baseball. There are stars everywhere, 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: a lot of Ever since Mike trouton Bryce Harper came 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: in essentially together what thirteen years ago, the wave of 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: players who are coming to the big leagues. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: They are so big, they. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: Are so strong, they are so fast, they are so talented, 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: and they are so ready when they get here. That 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: was my takeaway when you look at all those All 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: Stars and then you look at the age of them. 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: The game is in. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Really good hands moving forward. 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: And yet it really well. 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: It bothered me a little bit that the game was about, 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, the final pitch of the game, which wasn't 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: a strike. We shouldn't be talking about a missed call, 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: an umpire or anything else when there's this many great 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: players on the field. But that's what a lot of 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: people were talking about in the game last night. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Unfortunately. 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is unfortunate because that game was so good 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: up until that final moment. But that being said, whether 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: it was a bad call or not, tim the Dominican 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Republic wasn't that great when they had the opportunities to 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: be great two for nine with runners in scoring position, 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't as if they did not have chances. 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Are you surprised that that lineup was not able to 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: capitalize in the big moment. 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always surprised when a really good lineup gets 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: shut down. Like that at the same time, Alana, we 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: know this the pitching in the big leagues, the stuff 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: we see every day. I say it every time I 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: do a game, watch a game, how does anyone get 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: a hit anymore? 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: And I was told yesterday, you know, the. 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: United States bullpen is not very good, you know, given 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: all things, And yet the bullpen was absolutely tremendous last night. 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: They had very little chance to get hits off of 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: that bullpen. And when you watch Mason Miller pitch, you 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: ask all the time, how did anyone ever get a 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: hit off of that guy? 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: So yes, I'm surprised. 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: That that great lineup got shut down. But just another reminder. 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: When our pitchers are locating with that ridiculous stuff, when 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: they throw it where they want to properly, the hitters 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: virtually have no chance. And these are some of the 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: best hitters on earth. This is why the United States 64 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: struck out fifteen times yesterday and won the game. This 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: is what we face every single night. The pitching is ridiculous, 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: and if you miss in the strike zone, it's not 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: a single of the left field anymore. It goes thirty 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: rows up. But if you locate with that ridiculous stuff. 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: You don't just get people out, you strike him out. 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Mason Miller, Man, I tell you what, if you're in 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: the National League and you're specifically the nationally West, you 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: know a lot about Mason Miller. How does he compare 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: tim to other dominant closers that you have covered in 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: your tenure. 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, he throws a hat as hard as just about 76 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: any closer that we've seen. And he's got that slider too, 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: which he can balance and people still swing at it 78 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: because they can't lay off of it. 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: And alta. 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: You know his story too. Remember he told me once 81 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: that he got so sick that he went down to 82 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty pounds. Well, why weigh less than that, 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: but not many people do. And he's now up. Then 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: he gained back to like twoint fifteen and started throwing 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: really hard again. So he's been through a lot. And 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: go look at his numbers in the World Baseball Classic. 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm not positive about it, but it's like fourteen batters 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: faced and ten strikeouts against the best hitters in the tournament. 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: That's how good he has been. I've seen better closers 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: than him because they've done it for longer. But when 91 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: it comes to overpowering stuff. 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: Not too many better than that guy. 93 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Tim, And it wasn't just the fact that they couldn't 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: capitalize with runners in scoring position. This is a game 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that really illustrated that base running fundamentals they still matter 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: that momentum swing. Of course, when Aaron Judge threw out 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis Junior trying to go first to third, and 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: then the second time you have the opportunity to get 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to third, he stopped at second base and that proved 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: to be a turning point in the game. So this 101 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: is where the fundamentals the base running doing the little 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: things really showed and reared its uglyhead. 103 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Six years ago for ESPN dot com, 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: I wrote a story that base running is the worst 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: I have ever seen it in all the years that 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: I've covered. And I didn't just make this up. Paul 107 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: monandor Dusty Baker, all sorts of you know, veteran major 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: league players and managers told me it's the worst we've 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: ever seen. So I wrote another story this spring, and 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: as a run yet on the similar topic that if 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: you don't run the bases properly, it might cost you 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: a game. And to some degree, it cost the Dominican 113 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: Republic a game last night. You've got to go from 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: first to third on that ball. You got to score 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: from second on that ball. And my story that I 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: wrote is all about getting a good lead, a secondary lead, 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: which we don't talk much about. But because the players 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: just overpowered the sport with their physical gifts, their strength, 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: their size, their speed, their velocity, they are not always 120 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: taught by the industry how to get a good lead, 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: how to run the bases properly. And last night it 122 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: didn't cost him the game, but it sure didn't help 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic. 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, Fernando Tatist Junior seemed like he was a little 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: bit gunshy going again because of the previous you know, 126 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: at bat or whatever, when he was thrown out by 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Don't run on number ninety nine, Tim, Who 128 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: is the best base runner that you have ever covered? 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Paul monitors the best base runner that I've ever covered, 130 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: And I've talked to him about this multiple times a lot. 131 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 2: He played a game that same name that we played 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: when we were kids. 133 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: It was called hot Box, and hotbox. 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: Is when there's a guy in a rundown and you're 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 2: trying to get from base to base. You could play 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: hot box with three people. You don't need eighteen people 137 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: to play hot box, he said. We played that for 138 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: hours at a time when I first. 139 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: Started covering baseball. 140 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: On it. He would get on first for the Brewers, 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 2: Robin Yell would hit a rifle shot to right field, 142 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it's first and third with 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: nobody out. Molder was so good at taking a big 144 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: lead and understanding the dynamics of running the bases. He 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: could sometimes get so far off of first base that 146 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: he could peek in and see the catcher's sign from 147 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: first base. This is back when we used to put 148 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 2: signs between our legs like that. 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: That's how good he was. 150 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Joe Madden told me the other day, Paul Moloder is 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: the best base runner I've ever seen. And we've had 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: so many good ones, Davey Lopes, Joe Morgan, you. 153 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Know, Lou Brock. 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Of course, Ricky Henderson was great, But the best I've 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: ever seen was Paul Malder And I quoted him in 156 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: this story about the importance of base running, and he 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: told me it's always been the most fun part of 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: the game for me, And yet we don't really stress 159 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: it very often in the big leagues, and sometimes it'll 160 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: come back and get you. 161 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Davey Lops That's one of the guys 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I know with such a tremendous first base coach because 163 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: he'd really tell the tendencies of the pitcher, knowing exactly 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: what those guys were going to do. Tim you had 165 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: mentioned the great hitters already at the age under the 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: age of twenty five, Junior Camenaro, the home run Gunnar 167 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Henderson only twenty four, of the home run Roman Anthony 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: just twenty one, the Boston future in terms of star 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: studded power there so young star power is in the sport. 170 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: But let's talk about this in terms of the face 171 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: of it right now. Aaron Judge obviously is Team USA's captain. 172 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: But is Paul Skien the pitching face of the sport 173 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: right now? 174 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think he is. 175 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Alana, I have never seen in the forty five years 176 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: that I've covered a pitcher come in and make this 177 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: kind of impact in his first two full seasons now 178 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: or his first two seasons. Fernando Balzuel had a nine 179 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: start stretch at the beginning of his that no one 180 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: will ever match. But Skeens has essentially done this. 181 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: For two years. 182 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: You could make a case that the day he arrived 183 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: in the big leagues two years ago, he has been 184 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: the best pitcher from that day until this day. And 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: he still is. He's six six, he weighs two point fifty. 186 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: He's got ridiculous stuff. He's a absolutely maniacal competitor, and 187 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: all he cares about is winning. And even though he 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: only went what four and a third last night, he 189 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: gave them a chance to win. If I had anyone 190 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: to pitch one game for me right now, I would 191 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: pick him. And he is the face of pitching in 192 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: baseball certainly, and he showed it to some degree last night. 193 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I love the fact that no free passes either, zero 194 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: walks on the night four Skeens. Of course, Mark Durosa, 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: tim took a lot of heat for the misspeaking. I 196 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: guess that he felt that the team had already punched 197 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: their ticket to the quarterfinals. A little bit of vindication 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: last night though for d row by starting Gunner Henderson 199 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: over Alex Bregman at third against Louisino. Obviously, Severno doesn't 200 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: have the best luck against lefties. 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: Did you like that move I did. 202 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: But I will say how. 203 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: Difficult it is for Mark de Rosa to tell Alex Bragman, Okay, 204 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: you're not playing today, to tell cal Rawley with sixty 205 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: omers you're not playing tonight. 206 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: How do you do that? That is not an easy decision. 207 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: But Gunnar Henderson is one of those guys Alna that 208 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about. He's twenty four years old. I remember 209 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: during his rookie year I asked Aaron Boone about Gunner 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: Henderson and he just looked at me like this and said, 211 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a problem. And boy has he been 212 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: a problem for American ly all pitchers. And to get 213 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: that ball and put them, you know, on the board 214 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: like that was just amazing. 215 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: And yes, he's so athletic. 216 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: He was a great high school basketball player that he 217 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: could play shortstop and third base. He can play pretty 218 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: much wherever you put him. But he's twenty four. And 219 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: then there's Roman Anthony. This spring again, Alex Cora looked 220 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: at me and said, if you lined up twenty really 221 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: great prospects right in front of you, you don't even 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: have to see them work out, you would pick out 223 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: Roman Anthony and said, that's the best of the group, 224 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: just by the way he looks, the presence that he has. 225 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: This is what baseball people can see, and that's how 226 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: good Roman Anthony is. And then Junior Cambinaro. A lot 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: of three years ago, I did a playoff game from 228 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: the booth with the Blue Jays and the Rangers. I'm sorry, 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: the Rays and the Rangers and cambin Aro. I went 230 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: to Toronto the weekend before to make sure I got 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: a good look at the Rays before a playoff game. 232 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: Cambinaro put on such a performance of prodigious power in 233 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: batting practice at the Rogers Center. 234 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: He got a standing ovation. 235 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a visiting player in 236 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: batting practice get a standing ovation. That's how big his 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: power was three years ago. Now he's had a forty 238 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: five homer season and he's going to go back to 239 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: that this year because that kid is really, really good. 240 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Future of this sport is bright, tim with these great 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: young stars coming up. Okay, another semi final tonight. It's 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Venezuela versus the Cinderella Team in Team Italy eight pm 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Eastern on FS one. Francisco Sevelli managing against his native 244 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: country of Venezuela. This has just been such an unbelievable story. 245 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to the most in this game? 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: Well, you can't take your eyes off the Italian team. 247 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: And this is Look, this is why baseball is so 248 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: so great, with all due respect to basketball, which I 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: absolutely adore. Also, there are no Cinderella teams that go 250 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: in and beat the dream team for the United States 251 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: with Jordan and Larry and magic and all that. Now, again, 252 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: this is not the dream team in baseball, but it's 253 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: pretty darn good. And this Italian team didn't just beat 254 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: the United States, they had him down eight to nothing. 255 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: Only in this sport can this happened, which makes it 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: so beautiful. And here's Bennie Pascatino, who could be out 257 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: of the American team, but he goes out and hits 258 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: three home runs for the Italian team. It's so so 259 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: good that baseball is offering up a story like this. 260 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: And then I watched that Venezuelan game the other night. 261 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: I don't know where I've been a lota. How about 262 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: the talent on that team, and we're surprised that they 263 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: beat Japan. Japan is great, but there is no surprise 264 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: when a team with that kind of talent beats another 265 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: really good team in this tournament. 266 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Venezuela out slugging Japan, Italy race past Puerto Rico. Tim 267 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: If it was up to you, though, when is the 268 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: best time of the year to play the World Baseball Classic? 269 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Because I want Major League Baseball players in the Olympics, 270 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: But that's in the middle of the season. When's the 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: best time to play the WBC. 272 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: Well, there's no great time, but this is the best time. 273 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: I'm convinced of that. 274 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: Let's go to the end of July. 275 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Guys have played almost one hundred games at that point, 276 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: some of them are on the disabled list, most of 277 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: them are dragging in the heat. This way, we get 278 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: to play a lot of places indoors before the fatigue 279 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: has taken over your body. You're in spring training, and 280 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: even though you're trying to get your body ready, I 281 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: think this is the best time, if not the only. 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: Time, to do the WBC. 283 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: Now, the Olympics are a different animal. We'll see how 284 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: that goes. But I'll take a fresh guy from the 285 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: winter rather than a guy who's played one hundred games 286 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: at a incredibly high level, and then say, all right, 287 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: let's switch gears. You got to go play for someone 288 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: else now and leave your team. I don't think that's 289 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: a better idea than this. 290 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: I will say this though, whenever it's played, the WBC 291 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: is phenomenal for the sport that you and I love. 292 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: It's been so much fun. It's going to be a 293 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: great semi final tonight in the final, of course, should 294 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: be a good one as well. Another good one is 295 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: your podcast with your son Jeff Tim Is this a 296 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: great game or what you are? New to the foul 297 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: territory now work, Welcome to the family. Your latest episode 298 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: revisited an interview with ESPN's Scott Van Pelt. Tell us 299 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the pot I love this well. 300 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: It's my son, Jeff and I. He's thirty two years old. 301 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: He's a radio guy in Philadelphia, does music talk. He's 302 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: not a big baseball guy. But that's good because he 303 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: knows everything about everything else pop culture, music, you know, technology, 304 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: everything else that poor pop up here. He doesn't know 305 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: anything other than baseball, at basketball and sitcoms from the sixties. 306 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: So we are a pretty good team when it comes 307 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: to that. And Lana, sorry, we've got a different direction 308 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: instead of having hot takes every day to see how 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: controversial we could be. 310 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: We just try to. 311 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Laugh and we try to learn here, and we're always 312 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: trying to present something that nobody else has thought about, 313 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: even if it's on even the silly. 314 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: Side once in a while. 315 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: So I think it's okay to laugh at our game anymore, Alan, 316 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: And we don't laugh in our country very much anymore, 317 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: and we don't even laugh as much at baseball as 318 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: we should. We're trying to bring that back. Just an 319 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: old guy and his son. 320 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: That's all. 321 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, it's incredibly refreshing. 322 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: I love it. 323 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: I have subscribed, and if I were you guys listening 324 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: and watching, I would subscribe as well. Is this a 325 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: great game? 326 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: Or what? 327 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: Their next episode drops on Tuesday on YouTube and of 328 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: course wherever you get your podcast. Much more to come 329 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: with Tim Kirchin on Foul Territory. We'll be right back 330 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: with the Inside Dish right after this wout all right, 331 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: We welcome you back to Inside Dish. Of course it's 332 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: typically with Ken Rosenthal, but our great friend Tim Kirchen 333 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: is a spot starting for Ken and Tim of course 334 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: among the best storytellers of our great game that there 335 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: ever was any story or standout memory tim about players 336 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: with birthdays today? Today is March sixteenth, So I'm going 337 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: to give you a couple of names, and I'll let 338 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: you choose a couple of stories. Happy birthday, adaimir Gerro Junior, 339 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Steven Drew, Brian Wilson, Curtis Granderson, Happy Birthday, Grandy Jose Mota, 340 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: Abraham Nuniez, Brandon League, and Charles Hudson. 341 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: You know, when Brandon League used to pitch for the 342 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Blue Jays, he was in the same bullpen as David Bush. 343 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: Multiple times during that season, David Bush would pitch and 344 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: relief and be followed by Brandon League. So we had 345 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: the Bush League bullpen at the Blue Jays throughout there. 346 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Always I always paid attention to those things. Curtis Granderson, 347 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: of course, one of the great pros ever, really really 348 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: good player in his day. He's one of six players 349 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: in history to hit ten to hit forty or more 350 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: homers in a season with ten or more letters. 351 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: In his last name. 352 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: So I gave him that list and he thought that 353 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: was like the greatest thing ever. He said, I can't 354 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: wait to go tell my grandfather that I am part 355 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: of this list, because he says, my grandfather loved stuff 356 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: like that. Stephen Drew was a really good player in 357 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: his day. But I always found this interesting. When his 358 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: older brother J. D. Drew was struggling in the big leagues, 359 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: he used to call his little brother, who was a 360 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 2: collegiate player at the time, and say, I'm all fouled up. 361 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: I need you to help me. So Stephen Drew would 362 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: help his older brother J. D. Drew in order to 363 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: get better at the game. It should be the other 364 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: way around, where the collegiate kid calls his major league brother. 365 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: But that's who Stephen Drew was. Who else is on 366 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: that list? 367 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: Oh, Charlie Hudson, Oh my gosh. So Charlie Hudson pitched 368 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: in the eighty three World Series for the Phillies and 369 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm covering in Dallas. I'm covering the Rangers at the 370 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News. And Charlie Hudson came back to his 371 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: high school to speak to the high school kids, having 372 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: just pitched in the World Series. And it was like 373 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: the Beatles had shown up to his high school. This 374 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: poor guy couldn't take five steps without being besieged by kids. 375 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Charlie Hudson going back to Dallas. 376 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: We love that. 377 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Also, Happy thirty first birthday to Rowdy Tulez, who wasn't 378 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: on the list, but he is thirty one today, so 379 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: happy birthday to him. A lot of great baseball players 380 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: with a March sixteenth birthday. You talked about Vladimir Gerro Junior. 381 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Actually I did at the top of this list thinking 382 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: about previous runner runners up Ken or Tim When you're talking. 383 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: About the World Series, what kind of. 384 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: Challenge do you think awaits the Blue Jays this year, 385 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: having fallen just short last I mean fallen like this 386 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: much short last season to the Dodgers in Game seven. 387 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: Right, this much short in part because of Bath running 388 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: a lot of weeks. Yes, exactly early. I think you 389 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: could make a case of Blue Jays are the best 390 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: team in the American League. Now, Detroit is pretty good. 391 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: The Mariners, I just saw them in spring training. They're 392 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: pitching is loaded. But I think Toronto is better than 393 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: it was last year, and something happened to them. They 394 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: got a taste, the fans got a taste, and now 395 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: I think the Blue Jays are for real. They've added 396 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: to their rotation and back to vlad Guerrero Junior, for 397 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: a second line of this needs to be said as 398 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: many times as possible. Until the postseason, there were people 399 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: out there who thought he was just some heavy set, 400 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: lumbering first baseman. We saw him run. He can really 401 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: run way better than people think. I always knew he 402 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: was a good first basement because he's got great feet 403 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: and great hands. Well we saw that in the postseason. Also, 404 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: so when it comes to complete players in the game 405 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: of Vladiermeer, Guerrero Junior is nearing the top of that 406 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: list because of the things that he can do beyond 407 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: just hit a ball as hard as any man on 408 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: the face of the earth, he does a lot more stuff. 409 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: In fact, Brian John Schneider, the manager there, went to 410 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: vlag Guerrero last year and said, I've got three names 411 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: here and three running speeds. Manny Machado, Aaron Judge, and 412 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: you who do you think is the fastest there? And 413 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: Laddie said, well, it's not me, and John Schneider said, 414 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: yes it is. You run better than Manny Machado, and 415 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: you run better than Aaron Judge. So it's a good 416 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: lesson for all of us. Do not always pay attention 417 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: to what the person looks like, just watch him play 418 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: and watch him move, and not many players move better 419 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: than Vla Guerrero, certainly in the last year. And he 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: and the rest of that club are really really good. 421 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you talked about the clubhouse chemistry and an 422 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: article for ESPN back in October of twenty twenty five, 423 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: and they're looking to get back to the World Series 424 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty six. All right, let's take 425 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: a quick break. We're going to grill Tim right after 426 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: this bet. 427 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: I'm JM account holders today. How about in any sport 428 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: parlay boost token you can score a bigger payout if 429 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: your wager with that token. Hits tokens can be used 430 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: on parlays and on same game parlays. Gambling problem, We're concerned. 431 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: There's help called one eight hundred gambler. 432 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: Well, Tim, hopefully you like barbecue because you're about to 433 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: get grilled. The first question is in regards to being 434 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: the commissioner for a day, if you were in mister 435 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Manfred's position for a day, what would you change. 436 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: I would get rid of the ghost Runner. Sorry, Elana, 437 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm almost seventy years old. When we were kids, we 438 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: used to use the ghost Runner on when we would 439 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: play five on five, six on six pickup because we 440 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: didn't have enough players right fields, closed pitcher's hand, and 441 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: a ghost runner on the basis. Look, the pitch clock 442 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: has taken care of all the dead time. Can we 443 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: please play until somebody actually wins a game without putting 444 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: a runner on second base? 445 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 446 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: Some of the greatest games I've ever seen have been 447 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: eighteen inning games, including four of them in the postseason. 448 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: There have been five eighteen inning games in the postseason. 449 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: I've seen four of them, and those games don't happen 450 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: in the regular season anymore because we put a guy 451 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: at second It is unnecessary, and that would be the 452 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: first thing I would change. 453 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Two of those with the Dodgers being involved, and both 454 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: of those games Brad Paisley saying the national anthem, he's 455 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: no longer allowed. 456 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: Right and the first two Tim Hudson started the first 457 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: two eighteen inning game. What are the chances of that? 458 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: Only in baseball? 459 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: Can that happen? 460 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Only in baseball? 461 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: The next question, your favorite and least favorite ballpark to 462 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: cover a game in? 463 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: Well, Fenway is still my favorite because it opened in 464 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: nineteen twelve, the week that the Titanic sank my father, 465 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: God blessed him in one of the great baseball He 466 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: was a good player and a great baseball man. Gave 467 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: his three boys a really good feel for the game 468 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: and taught us how to play the game. 469 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: That's where he grew up watching games. 470 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: So that's where I You know that the first game 471 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: I can remember going to who was in the early sixties, 472 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: Felix Mantia hit a home run at Fenway Park. Those 473 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: are the things that you don't forget when you're a 474 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: dinky little kid. So I'm always going back to Fenway 475 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: because of its age, its tradition, and its history. Least 476 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: favorite look. I love the trop because the trop never 477 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: gets rained out and everything else. But I'm sorry, we 478 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: just can't have a pop up hitting the roof. It's 479 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: just as too much and we need to do something 480 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: about that. It's not like I dislike the place. I 481 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: love going to Florida, but I'm not a big roof guy, 482 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: especially when a ball can hit it. 483 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity in August of last season to 484 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: be the color analyst for the Nessen broadcast at Fenway 485 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: and to sit in that booth with something incredibly special, 486 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: So I agree with you on Fenway a very special place. 487 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, last question for you, Tim, most improved team 488 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: heading into twenty and twenty six, That is. 489 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: A great question. I'm gonna say that the Orioles are 490 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: going to be the most improved team now. I say 491 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: it because they were so bad last year that I 492 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: fully expect them to get significantly better this year. 493 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean. 494 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna win the East because Toronto's better, Boston's better, 495 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: and New York is better. 496 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: But this thought that. 497 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: The Orioles fell and they're not going to get up 498 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: this year of not buying it. Shane bos is gonna 499 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: help them, you know. Trevor Rodgers really gave them something 500 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: at the top of that rotation. They've added with Taylor War, 501 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 2: They've added with Pete Alonso. They're going to score a 502 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: lot more runs, and Gunner Henderson's going to be great now. 503 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: They just got to get at the retchman back to 504 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: where he should be as an elite catcher in the 505 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: big League. So I'm gonna say they're gonna take a 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: really big jump in wins because last year it just 507 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: didn't make any sense to me or anybody else. 508 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Matt Jackson holiday taking a step forward in his development 509 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: will help the Orioles as well. Tim Kirchin, we appreciate 510 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: you very much. Thanks for being here. 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