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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson's a lovely,

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Speaker 1: lovely Monday here in Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's warm, nice son,

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Speaker 1: And how about that? I had my code on this morning.

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Speaker 1: I went down to the Kevin Colbert press conference, in

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Speaker 1: the pre uh NFL Scouting Combine press conference that he

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Speaker 1: does every year, and I had my my winter code on.

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Speaker 1: It was still maybe fifty degrees when I when I

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Speaker 1: left the house, when I came out of hines Field,

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Speaker 1: because that's where they had the event at UM, I

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Speaker 1: got in my car and it showed sixty eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: How about that in February. Maybe in the late February,

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Speaker 1: look like I look like a full with this winter

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Speaker 1: jacket on. Maybe I'll have to leave my house and

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Speaker 1: stop doing podcasting, radio, doing his talking. So maybe venture

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Speaker 1: out and get some sun. Getting that pasty white film

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Speaker 1: about yourself. You need a little son, Use a little son.

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Speaker 1: You won't get that next week in Indianapolis. No, but

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Speaker 1: that was one week from now. You and I will

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Speaker 1: be an Indy. I mean that's good stuff. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: exsuched for that. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. Getting back to Kevin

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Speaker 1: Colbert what he had to say today, a lot was talked,

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Speaker 1: covered a lot of subjects. Actually, Um said that the

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Speaker 1: Steelers and I didn't know this part of it, but

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Speaker 1: March first, Um, the NFL shuts down the interview process

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Speaker 1: with outside candidates who are under contract. Um. And and

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Speaker 1: that makes some sense. Yeah, that, you know, because the

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Speaker 1: combine really starts the new league here. M hm. You

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Speaker 1: know that you have makes a ton of sense. Free

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Speaker 1: agency starts two weeks after that. Then you got the

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Speaker 1: then you've got all the pro as and then this,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the draft. If you're talking to two

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Speaker 1: guys from other teams who are under contract with other

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Speaker 1: teams at that point for one of those jobs, like

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Speaker 1: they've got all the inside knowledge of everything that's going

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Speaker 1: on with that franchise. That's what I'm gonna say is

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Speaker 1: you could easily, I don't want to say Ben rules,

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Speaker 1: but you could be like, Hey, if you really want

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Speaker 1: this job, which quarterback do you like best? Yeah? Which

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Speaker 1: who are they thinking there? You know, Yeah, who's the

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Speaker 1: Bear's favorite quarterback? Or you know whatever. You then you

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Speaker 1: start bringing in division rivals, front office people, you know,

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Speaker 1: and probably it just seems like it would be a

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Speaker 1: little unfair to the candidate to like, hey, I'm in

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Speaker 1: full off season here, I'm trying to call agents and

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Speaker 1: You know, it's also unfair to that team two take

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Speaker 1: their guy out of the process, somebody who's obviously high

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Speaker 1: up in their you know, hierarchy, uh and and say hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna bring him in for a couple

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Speaker 1: of days and take him away from your process because

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Speaker 1: we want to, you know, we want to talk to

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Speaker 1: him again. So they want to get all their their

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Speaker 1: there outside interviews done by March first for guys who

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Speaker 1: are under contract. He said that they could still then

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Speaker 1: look at some additional outside candidates who aren't under contract.

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Speaker 1: to talk to Mike Mayock. Yeah they can, they could,

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Speaker 1: under contract. Um, but he did say that they want

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Speaker 1: they want to wrap that stuff up by early March. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then then there'll be a dead period there because

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Speaker 1: they've got work to do of their own. They get

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Speaker 1: what I take away from what you're saying is they

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Speaker 1: interviews and those will take place after the draft, and

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Speaker 1: at that point, um, they will hire a new GM

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Speaker 1: at the idea that Colbert is helping acquire candidates. He's

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Speaker 1: he's helping identify who to Art Rooney the second, who

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Speaker 1: being you know, who was being primed for that job

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Speaker 1: for years? He was, he was as he's assistant. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kevin doesn't have an assistant GM. There's not an obvious successor,

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Speaker 1: at it the other way, like, hey, you're a Steeler's employee, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: We're going to use your immense talents to help us

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Speaker 1: find your successor. I mean that's part of your job description.

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Speaker 1: massive asset to help find the next guy. Of course

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, because he's still gonna

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Speaker 1: this up, and it's a valid point. Art Rooney the

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Speaker 1: to change, the league has changed, let alone the people

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Speaker 1: Although one thing that Kevin did say is that Art

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's largely who they have interviewed, with the

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking too, was we want a former scout.

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Speaker 1: talk to a lot about Again, Colbert has been there

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Speaker 1: the next segment, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally.

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