WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets Cornerbacks Coach Tony Oden (6/20)

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<v Speaker 1>We were presented by win Back Betty is a team

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<v Speaker 1>of sport put together at win Bat. Eric Allen here

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<v Speaker 1>at one Jets Drive, joined by Jets Cornerbacks coach slash

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<v Speaker 1>defensive assistant Senior defensive assistant Tony ODNTO. So great to

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<v Speaker 1>have you up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Five. I appreciate what's going on. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. Hey, let's take this back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness ninety nine nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Odin the head coach of Army's JV team.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, that's right, that's right. Now, what was that experience like? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was phenomenal. The year before I was the defensive

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator for it on the person that had the head

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<v Speaker 2>coach roll before moving on. So I was elevated for

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<v Speaker 2>that year. But it was phenomenal. I tell people all

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<v Speaker 2>the time talk about my experiences at West Point. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was precious. I felt like you were a part

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<v Speaker 2>of something special. You know, you got the future leaders

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<v Speaker 2>of the world there. But they're normal guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>before I went there, I thought they were gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>all was normally laughed it jumping it. There are us,

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<v Speaker 2>there are brothers or sisters there us, But It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great opportunity for me to look at

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<v Speaker 2>things from a global perspective as opposed to a position

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<v Speaker 2>specific perspective, you know, trying to bring everybody together, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them pregame, uh, halftime, you know, making slight adjustments,

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<v Speaker 2>communicating with the offense during the game as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the defense. So it was great. But it's fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a lot of I put pressure on myself

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<v Speaker 2>because you want to do well, but it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>it was on TV or anything like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so the pressure wasn't as high as it is in

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<v Speaker 2>the higher, higher stakes games. But it was unbelievable perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I loved What Point. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>How different is it coaching man at West Point who

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is going to have to when they're done go

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<v Speaker 1>and serve well.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, when I coached there, we weren't at war, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hadn't been for a while, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things that was on the foremost in

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<v Speaker 2>front of their minds. You know. Obviously they knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was always as possibility those things could happen, but you

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like you're a part of something special. It

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<v Speaker 2>made me a better coach because of their work ethic

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<v Speaker 2>that they have to have internally before they even come,

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<v Speaker 2>and also the work ethic that they're taught while there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very very intelligent, they're forward thinking, they're problem solvers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always had to have my meetings right. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I said something in the meeting room, I better

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<v Speaker 2>back it up on the field. They would call me

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<v Speaker 2>out in a minute in a good way. So but

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<v Speaker 2>it makes me made me become a better coach, more detailed,

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<v Speaker 2>be able to develop an economy of words when coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not rambling and those kinds of things. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was awesome experience, priceless.

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<v Speaker 1>Priceless, and then your career took off. Obviously those are

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<v Speaker 1>the early stages of your career. But what did you

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<v Speaker 1>like about the position being the coach, being the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was good, but you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing that I was doing, or we were doing, or

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<v Speaker 2>the coaches before me who had that position that was

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<v Speaker 2>anything different than what were already doing. You know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>in that role, you want to make sure you're complimenting

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<v Speaker 2>what the our varsity guys were doing. So their defenses

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<v Speaker 2>were the same calls were the same, but it just

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<v Speaker 2>felt different being in front of the room when all

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<v Speaker 2>odds are on you. You know, it's totally different. It's different

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in the backing room as supposed to in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the room, when they're listening to you for

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<v Speaker 2>motivation and looking to you for answers and looking to

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<v Speaker 2>you for game time decisions, you know, accepting penalties and

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<v Speaker 2>those kinds of things. But like I said before, because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a uh high pressure game, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>put pressure on myself because I wanted to do well,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel it externally, right, you know, which adds

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<v Speaker 2>a whole nother variable to it, you know, But it was,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, It was excellent. Like I said, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a prices experience for me to have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>do so. It was. It was. It was also.

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<v Speaker 1>Some would make the argument that Robert sala is not

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<v Speaker 1>in this seat right now had it not been for

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<v Speaker 1>too in two thousand and five. Can you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that specific experience with you and Robert early on in

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<v Speaker 1>your NFL coaching careers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Well, first of all, say he probably would because

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<v Speaker 2>of the man he is, he probably would be in

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<v Speaker 2>that seat. He was just probably had to find a

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<v Speaker 2>different avenue. It wouldn't have been in that instance. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was coaching college after I lest West Point a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years found myself at Central Michigan. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was there, he was already there as a graduate assistant assistant,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe I was in two thousand and three

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. Going into the two thousand and four season.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to talk to him and watch

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that he did from a preparation

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint in that supportive role. I thought it was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sharp and innovative. I learned from it. I used some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that he taught me on the computer,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I I got an NFL with the Houston

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<v Speaker 2>Texans for that year, and to make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>I replaced two people, so I had a heavy workload.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next year they allowed me to bring someone

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<v Speaker 2>else in, and there was no other person that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring in other than him because of the

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<v Speaker 2>impression that he left on me just within that two

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<v Speaker 2>or three months that I was there with him at

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<v Speaker 2>Central Michigan. So he came in and obviously did an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome job down there for us as a quality control

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<v Speaker 2>coach in two thousand and five, like you mentioned, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I left to go on to New Orleans Saints,

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<v Speaker 2>and he stayed there and got better and better and

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<v Speaker 2>better and exposed to more people, other coaches, other family trees,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were able to see what I saw and

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<v Speaker 2>what other people saw before he even got to Central Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't starting to making.

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<v Speaker 1>Head starting to make in What was he like in five?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we say guy really energetic like Ford things, thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>very progressive in some of the things that he would do.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't have to ask him to do much because

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<v Speaker 2>it was already gonna get done. If he saw a need.

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<v Speaker 2>We had questions in the staff room about doing certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to research it. You come in the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and it was done, you know, and done

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<v Speaker 2>in such a manner that you didn't even think it

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<v Speaker 2>could be done that way. Yeah, you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you what you look for guys that are problem solvers,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was that still energetic, understood his role and

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<v Speaker 2>very supportive and did that to the to a great extent.

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<v Speaker 1>How insanely competitive is Robert Because I look at him today,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's approaching mid forties, I'd say ninety ye right

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<v Speaker 1>around there, Yeah, right around there, and he's about two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five pounds rocked up, rocked up, less

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<v Speaker 1>than ten percent body fat, and a guy who on

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<v Speaker 1>the golf course. He's a maniac, without question, a maniac.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as whether it's peloton or inside the weight room.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about his competitive nature?

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<v Speaker 2>Every morning we have a little coaching workout group in

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<v Speaker 2>the mornings and six fifteen, so he would get in

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<v Speaker 2>there and then Cosarla comes in here. He doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out in our group because he has his own special workout,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's over there. He's over there competing against himself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to trying to do better than he

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<v Speaker 2>did before or the week before he just had. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a competitive spirit and he wants to do better

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<v Speaker 2>each time. Like I talked about before, we have projects

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<v Speaker 2>or things of those natures. He wants to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wants to take it to the next level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that I think that permate permeates all parts of

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<v Speaker 2>his life and his life, whether it's his family, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's his coaching, whether it's coaching style, coaching staff. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always pushing to get better? How can we get better?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And I think you see that passion come

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot of times on the field, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is awesome? Which is awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>So you just talked about the Saints. You're working on

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Peyton's staff. You ended up winning a ring there,

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<v Speaker 1>we did, we did. What did you take away from Peyton?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you learn.

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<v Speaker 2>From Oh man, I don't think we have enough time

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<v Speaker 2>to say that, because it's it's it's a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>things just from a and he leaned on others. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one main things that I learned that he would always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the people that he reached out to, some

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<v Speaker 2>other championship coach, coaches that he had spent time with

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<v Speaker 2>in his career, and he would always bring some of

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<v Speaker 2>their ideas into us. So I learned from that it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to go outside with your mentors and ask how

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<v Speaker 2>did you do this, and to be able to be

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<v Speaker 2>transparent and say I learned it, all right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do this and I learned it from this person. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the why, you know. I think that is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the one of the main things, along with a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of other things that I brought in that I

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<v Speaker 2>try to use as well. That I don't have all

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<v Speaker 2>the answers. I'll never have all the answers. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to use the resources that you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of people we're not reinventding will

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<v Speaker 2>football's football. You know, they run the ball, we tackle them,

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<v Speaker 2>they throw it, we knock it down or in accept it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. That's not gonna change. So

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<v Speaker 2>some people have done that before us. So it's okay

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<v Speaker 2>to ask those questions, you know, and now you take

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<v Speaker 2>it and you modify it based off of what you

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<v Speaker 2>can do. And another thing one of many, once again

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<v Speaker 2>that I learned from him, is using your pieces, your

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<v Speaker 2>players that you have, and what can they do best,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and not ask them to do things that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do well. Not that you're not gonna work

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<v Speaker 2>on those things, but you're gonna maximize what they do

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<v Speaker 2>best right now while you bring them up to speaking

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<v Speaker 2>on those other things you know, and then use them

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<v Speaker 2>in that way, you know, and try to find different

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<v Speaker 2>ways to do the same thing, but make it look

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<v Speaker 2>different to defense, make it look different to the offense,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're doing the same thing. You know, using that

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<v Speaker 2>guy's skills, you know. So it's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>I learned from a lot of them. Winning is another

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<v Speaker 2>one I learned from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how fun is it going to be for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Week five? You go to Denver and Peyton's calling plays

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<v Speaker 1>across and you guys are going to be going to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not our first time, you know, it's been been

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<v Speaker 2>many many times before. Actually when I left there, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Jacksonville and our very first preseason game was

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<v Speaker 2>back in the dome, you know, and we won that

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<v Speaker 2>game game, but we want it, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably fifty to fifty in the games that we've played,

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<v Speaker 2>even when Drew was there, we still we had some success,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously they had some success as well. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of used to that part, you know, kind of detached

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<v Speaker 2>myself from that. You love to see beimfore the game,

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<v Speaker 2>shake his hand and obviously check on his family and

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<v Speaker 2>those kinds of things probably reminisced on some of the

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<v Speaker 2>tough times that we had early early on there. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's gonna be awesome in that aspect. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>a funny story. When I was at my last year

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami, head coach there the last preseason game, he

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<v Speaker 2>will pick someone to be the defensive coordinator. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was a defensive coordinator for that game. And that's from

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<v Speaker 2>day one. So right after our third preseason game, we

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<v Speaker 2>take it over. So we we did the meetings, we

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<v Speaker 2>did all the game prep we did, we did, we

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<v Speaker 2>did everything, and it was challenging because you still had

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<v Speaker 2>to coach a position, you know as well. In that

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<v Speaker 2>game was in the Dome against New Orleans when Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Payton's calling the plays, you know, so I'm like, once

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<v Speaker 2>he knows I'm the quarter, I know he's gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to light me up.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he try to light you up in the preseason?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, we we we win winning, that's first thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I knew how the game was going, so I

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<v Speaker 2>knew at some point he's gonna put the tricker and

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<v Speaker 2>push the ball down the field, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of had the guys ready for that moment. He

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<v Speaker 2>did try to push it down the field. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a I think we either wanted or tied it. I

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<v Speaker 2>know we didn't lose it. I do know that. Yeah, yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned breeze before. Now you're going out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the practice field. And you guys have Aaron Rodgers blessed, yes, special,

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<v Speaker 1>both of those guys special. Can you and you faced

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers before?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that many many times, many times.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you talk about the similar between those two guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then we could talk about obviously there

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<v Speaker 1>are obvious differences, but the similarities, what kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things they bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. Don't want to compare them

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<v Speaker 2>too much. I would say the things that I compare

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<v Speaker 2>the most to both the quarterbacks, all right, they both

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<v Speaker 2>know how to win. They both want Super Bowls, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing I would say, one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>things I would say, is that they have a presence

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<v Speaker 2>about them that you really can't put your finger on.

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<v Speaker 2>They are both leaders of men, and it comes naturally

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<v Speaker 2>to them. They don't have to strain to lead. They

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<v Speaker 2>lead by example. They lead by just their presence and

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<v Speaker 2>how they do things, you know, and people naturally gravitate

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<v Speaker 2>to them and they watch them, and they're okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're okay in their own skin, you know, being them

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<v Speaker 2>and being able to lead in their way. Definitely different

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<v Speaker 2>types of leader leadership characteristics. They have but they're both

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<v Speaker 2>are very positive, great teammates. Obviously I wasn't their teammates.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't Drew's teammate, but watching from a coaching perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>all those guys love to play with and for him,

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<v Speaker 2>they play hard for him. Yeah, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, just with my limited experience watching Aaron right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing many he walks in. It's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>instant credibility because of who he is, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>his presence. It's a very welcoming, engaging presence that it

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<v Speaker 2>is permeated through the building, is permeated through the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and also through the defense. You know, he comes up

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<v Speaker 2>and they ask questions of the defense, ask questions of

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<v Speaker 2>our guys, and is willing to share that information. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the biggest lessons that I learned from a

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<v Speaker 2>secondary standpoint was talking to Drew really, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that he looked at. And I

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<v Speaker 2>use him every year with our guys, you know, same

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<v Speaker 2>thing when I was with Stafford. Stafford was the same

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<v Speaker 2>way in regards to being a great communicator and help

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<v Speaker 2>me out grow as a coach. Helped me out a

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<v Speaker 2>lot growing as a coach in regards to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things they're they're doing, some of the reads they have,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the whys, you know, and that to me

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<v Speaker 2>will make the teams grow that willingness to share that

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<v Speaker 2>information because it's critical. We're all trying to win, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all trying to rent win, and uh, you know, those

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<v Speaker 2>are some of the similarities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting you just mentioned Stafford, because as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>you did, I started thinking about these great quarterbacks, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady if they were running New England. He goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa and wins the Super Bowl. Peyton, Peyton, manny as

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<v Speaker 1>this unbelievable run in Indianapolis, goes to Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep talking, wins the super Bowl, keep talking, Matt Stafford, Let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Puts up big numbers in Detroit and never experience that success.

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<v Speaker 1>But then year one wins the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's presidents here as president's. I mean, this has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>This can happen, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not how pathetical it's happened. We've seen it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen in recent years. But you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things we talked to our guys about, and I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to our group about, is that where's gonna We

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<v Speaker 2>can't worry about that right now. You know. We just

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<v Speaker 2>have to win today, you know. And before that, our

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<v Speaker 2>smaller goal is to win this meeting, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it starts with me. I have to win when I

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<v Speaker 2>go into that room as a coach. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a winning attitude. My meetings had to

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<v Speaker 2>be done, and I have to prepare like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>winning coach so they can have an opportunity to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from what I'm saying, all right, so they can win

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<v Speaker 2>that meeting. And then after that we chalk that up

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<v Speaker 2>and then we go out and win. I walk through

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<v Speaker 2>from a communication standpoint and execution standpoint, a competitive communication standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we go win that period, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you add that up at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you do. You earn the right for one

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<v Speaker 2>more day to go out there and do it again,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just keep doing and you just keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then success happens and then we go have fun on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you fellows about your rank with New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 2>They know, I don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't talk about goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>About the now. You know. Now, sometime I may go

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<v Speaker 2>back and make reference to it. Someone else may make

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<v Speaker 2>reference to it, but it's it's so long ago. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys, you know, may have been in middle school,

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<v Speaker 2>elementary school.

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<v Speaker 1>Not long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>For me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember, I remember too, Miami, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be a pretty good player, pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>team right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of funny because we we were winning

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<v Speaker 2>and we get an interception, we ran it back for

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. We're up by two scores and everyone's celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>is in the fourth quarter, and I'm like, listen, congratulations,

0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a good job right there. But we got it's

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton manning over there. Can I celebrate too long right

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<v Speaker 2>now because he's gonna go back down there. He doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he can go down and score again. I

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<v Speaker 2>can go score again and they win. So we got

0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate it, be happy about it. Good job that

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<v Speaker 2>plays over. Let's move on to the next one. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta we gotta get him back off the field.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want him with the ball in his hand

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you tell us on camera as far as

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<v Speaker 1>how you celebrated that win.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was pretty subdued because it was really it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a numbing feeling. I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember being on the field. My wife came

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<v Speaker 2>down the field and celebrate, and you know, you kissed

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<v Speaker 2>the kiss the trophy. First of all, I'm like a

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<v Speaker 2>mini German pobe, you know. So everyone's kissing his trophy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't care. I kissed the trophy too, So

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<v Speaker 2>I let my guard down. But I tell you what,

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<v Speaker 2>with aught of pomp and circumstances that were involved with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It really hit me when I got in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>and even the celebration in the locker room initially, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was some liquid being poured on. People

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<v Speaker 2>won't say what kind of liquid, but you know they

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<v Speaker 2>shaking the throat, you know, you know maybe kids watching,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do it twenty one years old, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's when I started to take a shower. I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up in the corner and they had a TV up

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<v Speaker 2>there and it says new all the Saints. It was

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Illustrated. I believe you have won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They were selling like the Memoravillia and the memberships to

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<v Speaker 2>the Sports Illustrated, So you have won the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And it finally hit me. I was like, wow, we

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<v Speaker 2>won the Super Bowl, you know. And that's when that's

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<v Speaker 2>the moment I remember the most. My wife celebraking with

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<v Speaker 2>her on the field and that moment, you know, and

0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 2>then looking at our places eyes, the moment, the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of relief, accomplishment, you know, all the blood, the sweat,

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<v Speaker 2>the tears, and that's what I want for our guys here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I want because I have

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<v Speaker 2>done it before. Ou I want another. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of fingers, only one ring and my wedding ring

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in that one, all right, I want it, but I

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.440
<v Speaker 2>want it for them, you know. I want them to

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<v Speaker 2>to remember these hard days in May, the hard days,

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<v Speaker 2>that the hard nights, the soreness, and to have them

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<v Speaker 2>have that success. A coach told me a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, we're gonna walk together today, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>live together forever. And that's what those moments bring. You know.

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>That group of guys when we see each other is

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.919
<v Speaker 2>instant love. You can never take it away, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I want for our guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm that. That's a driving force to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a passion that I want them to

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<v Speaker 2>have the success. I want them to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>provide for their families, live their dreams, be financially provide

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<v Speaker 2>for their families, all right, But but to win it

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 2>is something totally different. It's an extra sauce. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's special.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of sauce, man, inside my head is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>inside my head right now? How cool is that for

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<v Speaker 1>you as a coach to watch Aaron Rodgers invite Sauce

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<v Speaker 1>out for a night on the town New York City

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a fancy dinner and then they're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>by Jessica Alba court side of the next game.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, he is. The course that he's on right

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<v Speaker 2>now is kind of really unprecedented in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>just because where we are in society in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to like social media and just being available

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<v Speaker 2>to people all the time, you know, and to have

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<v Speaker 2>the success that he's had as a young person within

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 2>that media market, this media market, and within the social

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 2>media aspect of things, that elevates it more so. It's

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot on his plate, you know. But he's still

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a young man that's still experiencing life. So to be

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.480
<v Speaker 2>able to see him have those moments to experience life

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a young man, not a Sauce gardener,

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.679
<v Speaker 2>but as a young man. Now he's had that experience

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.920
<v Speaker 2>because he Sauce, you know, he was in that seat

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and with Aaron Rodgers because he's Sauce, but still have

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.679
<v Speaker 2>a young man experience with people you don't know, like

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 2>new things, you know. That's interesting and fun to watch

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<v Speaker 2>him grow as as a young man and he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a phenomenal young man, and all our guys are.

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.880
<v Speaker 2>We have our room, our organizations have done a phenomenal

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 2>job with the guys that that that they selected and

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:46.120
<v Speaker 2>brought into this building. They brought good people, good men.

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.360
<v Speaker 2>So all he's a reflection of everyone in our room,

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone on our defense, you know, and all the guys

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>we have on our team. Just in general. He just

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<v Speaker 2>one of the guys who've had some success that everyone's

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of kind of gravitated towards. But he is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful young man and as a phenomena upside, And I

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>keep telling him people think they know what he is,

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<v Speaker 2>and they think they've seen how good he can be,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have no idea yet. Okay, we're just scratching

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<v Speaker 2>the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you two hit it off immediately? I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>pre draft process, so I'm not talking about when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the staff. I'm talking about the whole process. Yeah,

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 1>after pro day, he points to where you guys went

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>for breakfast after his workout. Can you talk about you

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was a special player, but there was more

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<v Speaker 1>than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you talk to people, obviously we were selecting

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 2>high and everyone of every coach in the building is,

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, hoping that they get their player picked at

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that time. So I know, when you select a guy

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>with that type of pick, it has to be the

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>right person, all right. Obviously we know about the athleticism

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and what he has to do from a performance standpoint,

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>but that person has to be the right person for you.

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>As a coaching staff. We have to have a good

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.880
<v Speaker 2>connection and always say we're entering into a relationship right now,

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, kind of like a marriage almost,

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, We're gonna have to be able

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 2>to work together. I'm gonna have to be able to

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>work and talk and coach you, all right. So when

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>we have those meetings as informal as it was for

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 2>going to breakfast, we need we need to learn more

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 2>about each other as men. You know, you know some

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 2>of the things that he wants out of life, the

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.360
<v Speaker 2>things that I want out of life. Because if all

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>those things are aligned, we know about the talent, all right,

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to have that, and you learn more about

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the man, you know, because the man is right, the

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>football is gonna be right if you get this the

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>right person, all right, and he is right on the

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>field and off the field, all right, the football is

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna fall in line. So it's important. It was important

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>for us, like it is for all coaches. Not that

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>my philosophy is ain't different than anyone else's, but it

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>was very important for me to get to know him

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 2>as a human, get to know his family, get to

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 2>see him around other people in this building and how

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 2>they respond to him, how he responds to them, you know,

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>how he treats them, because we want to bring the

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>right person in the building. You know, I want someone.

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 2>I look for someone that if my daughter's around him,

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel comfortable with that, if my wife is walking

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>down the hall, I feel comfortable with that interaction, you know.

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, and he checks checks all those boxes. But

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 2>we hit it off well. Brought him here and he

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>had dinner with us and with one of our coach's son,

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and just to watch. We were at dinners and coach

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Obrid the son came and to watch them connect and talk,

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and he gave him genuine attention, you know what I mean.

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 2>It was a one on one. I'm watching this, I'm like,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 2>that's a guy. That's a real guy. He wasn't like

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>he was just like, you know, pacifying him talking to him.

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He was talking cause he was interested in what he

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>had to say. You know, this is a high schooler,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, so I knew we had the right guy.

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>It was no doubt in my mind that he was

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be successful and we won't work well together.

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So what's next for him? Because I know that was

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a problem moment for you in January when he gets

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 1>the Defensive Rookie of the Year. Not only does he

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>get that he's a pro bowler, he's the first team

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>All Pro. I mean, he had all these three boxes,

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he checked them all. But what is next for him?

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think with him and we've talked about it,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to say anything on here that

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>we haven't talked about. The guy's the limit for him.

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>This s guy's a limit. But we got a couple

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of secret things that I can't tell you. No, it's

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 2>just I know.

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>One thing he's talked about is interceptions, and and that's

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>something that Roberts talked about as well as that he

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>led the NFL PD He's incredible, that's right, But now

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it's he coming down with a few more.

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Of them, right, And it's to me when you have

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>a young player that's that's that's playing in general, all right,

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>especially uh one that's playing at a high level. You

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to tweak his technique too much, right, you

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because when you tweak something, there's

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>a learning process and a learning curve in that, you know.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to make sure we that I sentuated

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the things that he can do well once again, not

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 2>the things that he has to work on in those moments.

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And we still worked on those things throughout the season,

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 2>but we want I want to make sure I refine

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 2>that technique to make sure the number one job for

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>corners not to have them catch the ball. That's the

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>number one job, pier point blank. Now the the extra

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>meat on the bone or the icing on the cake,

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 2>all right, is the interception, you know, And that's what

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna. We're gonna, We're gonna get to those, But

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so many other parts of his game. That's

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>one thing, you know, that's that's gonna come. There's no

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind, zero doubt in my mind

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that those things are gonna happen if they continue to

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>throw over there. But there's so many other things that

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>we can work on. That's why I said that people

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 2>think they saw a great player last year. If he

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>continues to trend and put the work in that he

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>is doing that we expect him to do, there's gonna

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 2>be a little something extra in there.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, could certainly get the Drell Revas treatment because he's

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>he's so good that people are gonna stay away from you.

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Never you never know and something. But that's a that's

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>always definitely. Don't want to compare those two guys because

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>there are different and I coached Drell for one year

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>down in Tampa. They are very different human have a

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 2>different skill sets, you know, uh, very different skill sets

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.719
<v Speaker 2>where they both are are very very good obviously at

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>what they do. So he's gonna he's gonna continue to

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>grow his game, you know, learning football, splits, formations, situational things,

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>getting stronger, giving more tools. I always talk about giving

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>guys tools and a two belt. Rookies usually have. I

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>may give him two tools. You know, you got a

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>hammer and the and the and the uh Phillips headscrew driver.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's it. And you mass that hammer, you

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>master that Phillips. Hey, Okay, now you got a fat hole.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Now you got a wrench. You know, okay, you're gonna

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not using that wrench. Well, give me that wrench

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 2>back for a while. Let's go back to these three

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>tooths that we can use. Now, you can use that one.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a slow burn. I think you have to take

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:19.120
<v Speaker 2>your time and teach the technique and get guys doing

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>it to correct way first before you throw everything at him.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, you master some things. You got that, Let's

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>move on now. Some people can master it faster than others,

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>so you have to be able to accelerate some of

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that growth in some of those techniques, in those tools.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I got a bunch of toos in in my two

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>box over here. I'm ready for him to use it.

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you do. And I don't want to oversimplify this,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>but the scouting report I saw us coming out was

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he's long, he's physical, he's great in man press. Well,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>what became clear during his rookie season under you, under

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>all Brick, under Robert is that he's thriving zone. Why

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>why is he able to do that?

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>He's smart? He's smart. But you mentioned talking about like

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>a West Point players. One of the things that they

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 2>can understand formations because they are high level thinkers. You know,

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>he is a smart player and he's also a problem solver.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>You know that's me. It's one of the things I

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>look for. And the guys that would like the coach

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that are problem solvers because their offense is going to

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>do something unscripted. They get paid money over there too.

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're pride forul too. They're not gonna always

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>give you exactly what you've seen on film. Most time

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>they will, but they're gonna have a couple of wrinkles

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>every game. And who are the guys that can problem

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 2>solve on the film, on the field and recognize things

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>quickly enough before they get to the sideline, Because the

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>good offenses aren't gonna let dbs get to the sideline

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>for us to make the correction right, They're gonna do

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it within that drive. If you don't fix it on

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the field, that next first down or the next they're down,

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that same thing, or the play they're setting up, it's

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna come afterwards. It's gonna come next. So he can

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>do that, he can problem solve, and he is smart,

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>so he can't recognize informations and splits in the situation

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of the game and know that I'm not going to

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>get this route because of the split, or it may

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>be the same split right here, but he outside released

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to inside release. I know I'm going to

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>get in this, so I'm not going to play all

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>those other things that could happen. I'm gonna play the

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>two things that he can do versus that release. You

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>know what, that makes sense?

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>It totally does. And I want to talk about a

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of your other guys, but you're a great coach,

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>so you're explaining players and I'm digesting this. But one

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of the things that and tell me if this is

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way of viewing this, but one of the

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>ways I viewed it last year with saw Us is

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that Stefan Diggs made a catch on you guys first

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>play the game in matt Life Stadium.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And after the game move I'll know.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it stood out to me, said that's not what

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they do. They broke tendency there, and the more that

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he sees that over time like that will be another

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>tool it that he has it as arsenal. But that

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>just said to me that he knows exactly the way

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:11.959
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to attack you.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's one of the things that the growth,

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>his growth is going to continue pretty quickly because of that.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>And I learned this from I learned from ReBs. Actually,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>certain players get certain things. You know, generically speaking, when

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you look at the film, we always talk about, Okay,

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>here's what they do in this formation, in this situation.

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Relatively speaking, it may be these two things in this

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe this these three things in this formation. All right,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>but it's only one thing when they do this this motion.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>That's very generic thought process and it's correct. But the

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>other factor, the X factor of that is who is

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the individual that they're going against. All Right, certain individuals

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 2>have a certain skill set that they're going to do

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>certain things from. So even though you may have seen

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>them do it on film, that guy's not gonna get that.

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Like Reevers wouldn't get Carol routes, slant routes because he

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 2>was a very patient at the line of scrimmage, so

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that even though they may have done it a hundred

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>times on film, he's not gonna get that route. Right,

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>there were certain routes we had to identify that he

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>was gonna get. And it's the same thing with Sauce.

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>There's certain routes that he even though we may see

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>it on film that he's gonna get because he has

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>some length, They're gonna do certain things to negate his length.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna do certain things, different things with the formations.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>They may have different emotions to it. They may try

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>to use a double move to get him up off

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>so they can try to create some space, you know.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>But the other factor is that is the player that's

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>doing it. Not everyone can create space. Not everyone can

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>create or have the speed to allow that separation on

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the double moves, you know what I mean. So that's

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>part of the growth. That one of the many things

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>that he's gonna get better and better and better at

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>because now he's gonna be able to make book on

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>certain players, certain coordinators. This coordinator attacked me this way.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>So even though maybe a different year, this is how

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>he attacks me potentially.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Yah, I have more chapters in that book.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that happens, may or not happen. I'm

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>saying those are factors, you know, But that's coaching. That's

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>but we, like I said, we have so many guys

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that that like DJ read is unbelievable. He but he

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>gets different things at times when they want to go

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>over there and was going to get different things. Michael Carter,

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>who is a probably one of the best problem solvers

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>that I've ever been around, He's going to get if

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>they want to go in that direction, they're going to

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>do different things, different than if I was playing Nickel.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>You've been awesome with the time. We got to let

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you get going, but I I got it two quick

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<v Speaker 1>ones you just mentioned I'm I'm see the second and

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<v Speaker 1>also DJ. Did you know you guys knew DJ was

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<v Speaker 1>a good player? Yes, yes, and you let you had

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations for.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, extremely high. Did you think he was gonna thrive

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah, zero hesitation. I was with him for a seconds.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Our room is built specifically. We have a smaller, quick, gritty,

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 2>bite your face off, uh, DJ Reid, you know, who's

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<v Speaker 2>highly competitive and serious, and we have another guy on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side has a little length, mental speed, you

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So they compliment each other. You

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>have MC as a problem solver, and he can do

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<v Speaker 2>it all, you know what I mean. He can play

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<v Speaker 2>big boy ball and make big tackles like a linebacker.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>He can cover like a corner. He can go out

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>there and run the defense and problem solve it. So

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a very good mixture of human beings and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have Brandon Echos and we Bryce Hall, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other guy that works back there we work

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<v Speaker 2>hand in hand is Ricky Manning Jr. He's the guy

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 2>who's played in the league, you know. So it can

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>coach the nickel, you know, better than anyone else that

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've been around, you know. So it's so our

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>organization had done a good job of giving us the

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 2>pieces to be successful, and now we just got to

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and earn the right to do it

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<v Speaker 2>one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about the opportunity this is where we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end, Uh, the opportunity. How do you as far

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>as with the league is concerned there? Then I talked

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to Ron Milton about this before. They're three black head

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>coaches in the National Football League. That's for a fifth

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>consecutive year. The league is trying to do something to

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<v Speaker 1>change that. Can you talk about the program that you're

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>going to be a part of this year and what that.

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<v Speaker 2>Means to you. Yeah, I'm I'm excited about it. It's

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Coaches in Front Office Acceleration program that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>pretty soon here and it's a way for us to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go and meet with the front office, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some owners and some general managers and and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>find out and hear the process because we are in

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those meetings as assistant coaches, whether it

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>be salary cap or just league business and those kind

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of things. So I think getting a better appreciation for

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>those kind of things can get you in position at

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>least have a better understanding. If you are afforded the

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to interview for one of those things and they

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>ask you these questions, you can have a better foundation

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>to speak on because you have heard some of that

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff before. The other thing is, I think it exposes

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and you. It's different when you shake someone's hand and

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you look them in the eye and you can get

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>a chance to talk to them all right, they can

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>get a pretty decent feel of the man that you are,

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the man that you can be, because now you have

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>an intimate relationship with that person as opposed to just

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>reading about it. So it allows some exposure. I think

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a phenomenal thing that the NFL. They're being forward

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>thinking in that they're being very deliberate and exposing both

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>sides to each other, you know, and obviously haven't gone

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>yet before. I understand is great dialogue between the owners

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>and the other front office. It's great sharing of information

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and ideas both ways. So we can't understand each other,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>we can understand the direction of the league, the direction

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of our society, and hopefully that will lead to other opportunities,

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>whether it be for me or for the next person

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>you know. To me, I think that I always look

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>at things like if what I'm doing is obviously I

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>want to be successful, and I want our players to

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 2>be successful. But I want the person that's going to

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>replace me one day or coming behind me to be

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>successful because I have not messed it up for them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean that I have carried myself

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<v Speaker 2>in a certain way that makes it easy for the

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>next person to make a long story short. So well,

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it works out for me, hopefully it does. But if

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work out for me, hopefully I would have

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 2>opened the door, or at least not let a door

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>close for the next man behind me because of me.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to catch up after that program, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at some point in training camp we can all

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<v Speaker 1>get in the progress report.

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<v Speaker 2>But t O.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I appreciate your time. Let's go j E t ets, jets,

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<v Speaker 2>jets jets, let's go

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