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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Friday, July the twenty fifth. I'm stoked for

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Speaker 2: this weekend, folks, and not for reasons you'd expect, but

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Speaker 2: just as a programming note. Next week a little hiatus.

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Speaker 2: Fox gave Kawenan and I the week off, so there

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Speaker 2: will be no podcast. Obviously, I will be unplugging or

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Speaker 2: doing my best and listen. It's really hard to unplug

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Speaker 2: now with so much happening in.

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Speaker 3: This world sports.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm getting fantasy offers to join leagues left and right,

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Speaker 2: and then you get news like something that kind of

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Speaker 2: stunned us Thursday morning, and that was a rough week

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Speaker 2: for gen Z. On the heels of theo Huxtable passing

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Speaker 2: aka his real name Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,

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Speaker 2: then you had Ozzy Osbourne and they.

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Speaker 3: Come in threes.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly Hulk Hogan, the passing of a wrestling legend. His

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Speaker 2: real name obviously was Terry Bolea. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing that rights, but Hulk Hogan hard cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like at the age of seventy one. Now

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Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting Hulk Hogan is a really interesting

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Speaker 2: test case. And I don't know that we've ever really

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Speaker 2: talked wrestling on this show. But now Rob and I

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Speaker 2: are different ages, pretty much different generations. He's the young

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Speaker 2: whipper snapper. I used to be the young whipper snapper.

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Speaker 2: But I one hundred thousand percent grew up watching a

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Speaker 2: lot of wrestling. Okay, this was when we didn't know

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Speaker 2: if it was real or fake. My parents said, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's so fake. There's no way people are getting hit

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Speaker 2: over the heads with the chair. And it's fine, this

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Speaker 2: is fake. But me and my friends, but no way,

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Speaker 2: it's real. We would buy like the wrestling magazines. I

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Speaker 2: know that there's a segment of the population out there

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Speaker 2: who's with me. Just deal with me for a second.

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Speaker 2: So we're huge wrestling fans. Wrestle Mania, Hulk Hogan vers

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Speaker 2: Andre the Giant. He body slammed Andre the Giant. It

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Speaker 2: was macho man Randy Savage and Hulk had an amazing run.

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Speaker 2: He was the man eat your vitamins, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just telling you, Hulk Hogan to like

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Speaker 2: what eight nine year old j Mack was a legend. Like,

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Speaker 2: I honestly was a bigger fan of Hulk Hogan than

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Speaker 2: any NFL player back then.

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Speaker 3: I was a huge Don Maddingly fan.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the NBA Magic Johnson that was my guy,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing blah blah blah. But Hulk Hogan was like

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Speaker 2: I start to phase out of wrestling, you know, probably

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Speaker 3: Do you kind of forget about Hulk Hogan?

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Speaker 2: Right, hulk a Mania running wild. That was fun when

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Speaker 2: really into it. But he apparently made a comeback into wrestling.

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Speaker 2: By that point, I was like, this is fake. What

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Speaker 2: basically reality TV anyways. So then all this info comes

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Speaker 2: out about Hulk Hogan kind of sort of being an

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Speaker 2: and then of course there was the lawsuit that sank Gawker.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 2: Was not quite dared, but like his friend, this crazy

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Speaker 2: DJ guy Bubba the Love Sponge, who I was not

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Speaker 3: But I didn't know him.

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Speaker 2: Bubba the Love Sponge basically said to Hulk Hogan, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then I guess he sold that tape or whatever

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, and Hulk Hogan essentially wins his lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: Gawker published part of the sex tape, and that was

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Speaker 2: kind of the beginning of the demise of Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 2: It all went downhill from there. And I didn't even

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's get some celebrity star power.

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Speaker 2: They bring out Hulk Hogan and he's booed, And for

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Speaker 2: He had done that many rotten things as a human

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Speaker 2: I mean, again, what's the saying, Rob, Is it you

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Speaker 4: That, something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not one hundred percent certain on the saying,

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Speaker 2: eight year old j Mack was all about Hulk Hogan's

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Speaker 3: I can't hear you. Come on, who didn't do that

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Speaker 2: Were watching Saturday Night's main event, Like, there was a

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Speaker 3: I could do this for hours.

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Speaker 2: But Hulk Hogan was the man. And just the way

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Speaker 2: his downfall in the last fifteen twenty years has just

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Speaker 2: was a bit of a surprise to me. Now, Rob,

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Speaker 2: I know Hulk Hogan. I mean, you weren't even born

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Speaker 2: when he was. Hulk Hogan was really popping off. But

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Speaker 2: are you a big wrestling guy? Are you a Hogan guy?

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Speaker 4: You know? Was I really was back in the day.

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Speaker 2: We talk about it sometimes in the NBA. The hates giography.

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Speaker 2: We just remember everything from our youth is perfect. The

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Speaker 3: It was all awesome. Not everybody.

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Speaker 2: Rob is able to just step back and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know it was. It was okay, My childhood was good.

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Speaker 3: It was solid. But right now, like it's not even close.

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Speaker 2: Like literally everything is better. Everything buy a mob do

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Speaker 2: you remember? Well, you don't, Rob, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: type out like a project, it was like a massive ordeal.

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Speaker 2: And printers took forever, like computers sucked in the eighties,

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Speaker 2: like it just nothing was as good as it is now.

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Speaker 2: And like again I'm not in wrestling now, so I

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Speaker 2: about Brett the Hitman Heart and were they was that

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Speaker 2: I'm probably with you and I totally forgot. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: Will Levis thing is is a bummer. Will Levis went

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna be good. I think the Jets could

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Speaker 3: be a sneaky arch.

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Speaker 2: Manning team and I will remind people the Jets were

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Speaker 2: in the mix for Trevor Lawrence back when he was

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Speaker 2: coming out. They won one stupid game against the Rams

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Speaker 2: in December. It cost him Trevor Lawrence. They had to

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Speaker 2: settle for Zach Wilson. I don't need to say.

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Speaker 3: Anymore, but the other team who could get arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: A lot of rumblings that the Rams acquired an extra

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Speaker 2: first round pick for next year in hopes that they

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Speaker 2: can trade up for arch Now they've had two tumultuous

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Speaker 2: summers in a row dealing with Matthew Stafford. Obviously, Rams

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Speaker 2: are Super Bowl contenders this year, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: gonna take more than two picks to move up and

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Speaker 2: get arch Manning. It's gonna take more than two first

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Speaker 2: Whereas the Jets are gonna be in the next just

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Speaker 2: because they're not very good, although I do I will

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Speaker 2: say I think their defense rob is gonna keep them

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Speaker 2: competitive most of the season.

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Speaker 4: I mean it should you know, as a until week one,

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Speaker 4: a lifelong Jets fan, right because I picked them last season,

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Speaker 4: so after all till the start of this next season,

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Speaker 4: that I can really get off the bandwagon like they

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Speaker 4: have players. I mean there's a reason why in the

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Speaker 4: last month that Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson both became well,

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Speaker 4: I know sass being the highest paid, but two of

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Speaker 4: the highest paid players in NFL history at their position.

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Speaker 4: Like they have dudes, they just do not have a

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Speaker 4: quarterback similar to the New York Giants. The New York

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Speaker 4: Giants got dudes in a lot of places. They're just

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Speaker 4: unsettled at quarterback. And it's interesting. This season is gonna

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Speaker 4: be interesting to see if Arch Manning is as good

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Speaker 4: as we all think he is, which team is gonna

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Speaker 4: pull the ripcord first. Because one thing about the NFL,

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Speaker 4: it's not like the NBA, where you know, going in, Hey,

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Speaker 4: the Jazz are gonna suck. Hey, uh, the New Orleans

468
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Speaker 4: Pelicans are gonna suck. The Washington Wizards are gonna suck.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna tank, They're gonna play all their young guys.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be bad. They're trying to capture the flag,

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Speaker 4: right like that was the motor in the NFL. One

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Speaker 4: thing that's that's much different is like hope springs eternal.

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Speaker 4: This time of year, every team, right or wrong, thinks

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Speaker 4: they can make a run at the playoffs and if

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Speaker 4: we get in, anything can happen. Hell, Miles Garrett said

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday his expectation is the Super Bowl. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what Miles Garrett is smoking, but that's what these

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Speaker 4: guys all feel, because we've seen year after year after

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Speaker 4: year someone goes from worse to first. Someone you're not

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Speaker 4: expecting is all of a sudden a juggernaut. Shout out

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Speaker 4: to the Commanders, shout out to the Minnesota Vikings. So

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Speaker 4: who's gonna be the team that starts out one in three,

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Speaker 4: two and four. That says, you know what, rather than

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Speaker 4: try to make a push and maybe we sneak into

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Speaker 4: a wild card game, pull the rip cord early, let

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Speaker 4: it go, Let go of the rope, because we're gonna

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Speaker 4: go all in on the March for Arch.

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Speaker 2: I will say, Rob, you got me laughing here, Capture

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Speaker 2: the flag March for Arch. These are not bad now,

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Speaker 2: Drew Aller? Is it Aller or Lars Aller?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Good luck finding one for him.

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Speaker 2: I will say I was not as keen on Penn State,

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Speaker 2: and then Feldman was on the pod this week. I'll

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Speaker 2: be betting on Penn State to win the Natty, And

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Speaker 2: I looked at some numbers from Aler. He got significantly

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Speaker 2: better year over year. He just had a really rotten

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Speaker 2: game against Notre Dame and elite defense in the final

498
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Speaker 2: game of the season, like literally threw the game away

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Speaker 2: with a horrific interception. I think it was either in

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Speaker 2: the waiting moments of the fourth or overtime, and Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame was able to win. But I think good luck

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Speaker 2: coming up with a nickname for Drew Aller and the

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Speaker 2: NFL draft.

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Speaker 4: By the time you get back from vacation, I'll have one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as one final side note, and I just

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Speaker 2: want to get this on record, Rob Maybe I'll remember

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Speaker 2: to clip it off. But when Arch struggles badly against

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and he's something like fourteen for thirty one

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Speaker 2: two o seven and two interceptions in a fumble. When

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Speaker 2: he has a bad game, everybody's gonna write him off. Remember,

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Speaker 2: first impressions matter a lot, and this will be his

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Speaker 2: real first impression, even though he you know, he's played

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Speaker 2: a little bit as a backup. I will buy Arch

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Speaker 2: Manning stock after they lose to Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: That's when you want to get in on the ground level.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, Ohio State an elite team with superstar

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Speaker 2: players on defense, bottled up Arch Banning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he'll go back to the drawing board. He'll

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Speaker 3: destroy some bad.

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Speaker 2: Teams, and I think he's gonna he's gonna have a

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Speaker 2: good season in the seas. That would be my guess

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Speaker 2: for Arch. And then he comes out. Now a lot

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Speaker 2: of people seem to think he ain't coming out. I'm

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Speaker 2: not buying that rub.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to buy the stock now because I'm

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Speaker 4: already on record is saying I think they're gonna go

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Speaker 4: into the big house in shock, Ohio State. And then

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Speaker 4: I was only in Bolden when Sark was on with

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Speaker 4: you guys on Thursday, and he was just gassing up

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Speaker 4: arch Manning talking about his his prepa, his preparation and

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Speaker 4: his commitment to the film study and the playbook and

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. And It's like, all right, you

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Speaker 4: got me going a little. I was already in the

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Speaker 4: I was already in the bag, but now I'm really

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Speaker 4: feeling it. And then I read that Charles Robinson Peace

536
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Speaker 4: and Yahoo about the Rams and how much they like

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Speaker 4: arch Manning and how they want to trade up because

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Speaker 4: they think Stafford's gone. And during I don't know if

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00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: you've read the article. But in the article, this is

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Speaker 4: what it says. This is I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 4: The comparison for arch Manning inside the Rams franchise that

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Speaker 4: is ceiling after the twenty twenty five college season could

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Speaker 4: be a Josh Allen type of prospect. What so, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I am all in one thousand percent on arch Manning.

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Speaker 4: I can't afford to buy the dip like you are.

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Speaker 4: I gotta buy it now at a high point size

547
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Speaker 4: could it's only going up?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't realize he was six four two twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He looks much smaller than that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't look much thinner than that.

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Speaker 2: He there's no way he's six four to two twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the inflation. You know how

553
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Speaker 2: the NBA players inflate their height all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's like six two two fifteen or something.

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Speaker 4: Or hear me out. Josh Allen is also just much

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Speaker 4: bigger than what his listed sizes.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is a hoss, that's for sure. Anyways, all right,

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Speaker 2: you guys have a great weekend and week we are back.

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Speaker 2: Next time we're back, it's in early August. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Rob G will just be chopping it up. He's so

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Speaker 2: dominant as a producer and a thought leader when it

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Speaker 2: comes to guests.

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Speaker 3: So you guys be safe out there. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you soon