WEBVTT - #18 Dating Sucks at Any Age

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<v Speaker 1>Help I Suck At Dating with Dean Angel and I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, Hello, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning into another episode of Help I Suck At Dating?

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<v Speaker 1>Still the title, We're still working on it. Still keep

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<v Speaker 1>tweeting me your suggestions because I promise you one of

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<v Speaker 1>these days, hopefully soon it will change. And all it

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<v Speaker 1>takes is a little bit of effort. And I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>my hardest. But I'm joined in studio today by Easton. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>you know him, you love him every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>No Mark, no Amy, no Erica today. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>two other special guests. We have Carmelia and Carmelio Ray

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<v Speaker 1>and Courtney from my season of Bachelor Winster Gamello. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so we are joined, like I said by Carmelia, she

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<v Speaker 1>is the host. Uh. I think I saw in the

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<v Speaker 1>previou of twenty three year, twenty five year Matchmaking, veteran

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<v Speaker 1>dating coach and star of Mombers Matchmaker. It's number one

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<v Speaker 1>series on cable networks Mixed TV. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers you've helped over sixty signals um and facilitated more

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<v Speaker 1>than one thousand marriages? Is that true? Uh? I've had

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<v Speaker 1>over sixty five thousand conversations with singles in twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I've seen thousands of marriages, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm trying to do the math. Three thousand conversations

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<v Speaker 1>roughly per year. That's a lot of that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work. I started in before match dot com, So yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And we just watched a bit of mom Verus Matchmaker here,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the teaser first season one. Um, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about that, a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about you, and UM just kind of like to the

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<v Speaker 1>lesser informed listener. Sure, well, mom Versus Matchmaker Season three

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<v Speaker 1>is launching April tenth fro on Mixed TV, and you

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<v Speaker 1>saw trailer one for mom Versus Matchmaker and episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've planned now or we have planned about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>blind dates with singles all across. You know that moms choose,

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<v Speaker 1>and so basically it's a battle between myself and mom

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<v Speaker 1>to see who's a better matchmaker. So we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win the role of Cupid based on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>challenging mom knows best versus my skills as a matchmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're setting up the daughter of the mother or

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<v Speaker 1>is it could it be anyone besides a daughter like

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<v Speaker 1>a son or daughter and both LGBT and straight. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really meet It's it's reality. So in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't meet my contenders until I meet them on air,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get a very short window of time to

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<v Speaker 1>find a dater, train a dater, and hopefully have that

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<v Speaker 1>person pick my choice. It's amazing. It's such a unique

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<v Speaker 1>I guess outlook on it on a dating show. Yeah, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I see two very eligible bachelors for season four. Um, sorry, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost. Going up against a parent of someone you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a dateful because obviously generally your parents

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<v Speaker 1>know you best. And then I've seen you diting, they've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this at a pot as you brought home or

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<v Speaker 1>introduced them to. You'd think they'd have a pretty good idea. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you if I was to go up

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<v Speaker 1>against your mother, what would you think the competition would

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<v Speaker 1>be like? So I had a conversation with my mom

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<v Speaker 1>the other day actually, and she met someone or not

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<v Speaker 1>the other day a little while ago. But she pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out straight away, she's like, you have a time, She's

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<v Speaker 1>like thinking about this, this, this, this, and she pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out all the similarities of every girl I brought home

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<v Speaker 1>and introduced my parents, and she was spot on, and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually made me realize that I have a time

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<v Speaker 1>and took my mom to realize that before I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's got a good idea. So you have a

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<v Speaker 1>close So this is a This is one example of

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship between parent and child, because not all relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are like this. In many cases, the mom's perception of

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<v Speaker 1>who the child needs or wants is totally different than

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<v Speaker 1>what's the reality. Right, So, and you happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>someone that your mom's met your partners By the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I still live at home, so she's got

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<v Speaker 1>no child. Has your mom met all your partners? In

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, families pretty far removed from the equation, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily weigh on those types of this. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well in in your particular case, yes, moms are great competition.

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<v Speaker 1>I that's what makes the show it is because the

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<v Speaker 1>moms have a strong opinion. Now, whether or not those

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<v Speaker 1>moms are correct are another story, because there's the there's

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<v Speaker 1>the parent who wants their child to be with a

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<v Speaker 1>certain person, and sometimes that person is who they see

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<v Speaker 1>them with, not necessarily who the child wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>with someone like the husband. Oh exactly there. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a couple of every part of the segment

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<v Speaker 1>and the interviews. When I meet the single, I go

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<v Speaker 1>through a series of matchmaking questions. So I do the

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<v Speaker 1>intake to get my kind of forty five minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>an hour with this person, asking them all the questions

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<v Speaker 1>so that I can go and find them their match.

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<v Speaker 1>And and a lot of the times when I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the moms, I get to meet the moms for

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<v Speaker 1>a short time. They're like, my son wants somebody exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like me. I'm thinking, I know who's winning this competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Check can we get like an abbreviated version of those

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes that you spend with the son, the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter whoever? It is, like, what kind of kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>questions are you asking? What are really like? What helps

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<v Speaker 1>you get to know them best? Do you think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the questions that the mom's probably don't ask.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of those, uh, well, because of first

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<v Speaker 1>date or not really, that's kind of like relationship date.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about home run. But I do questions on

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<v Speaker 1>so you like leather and bundane. I'm not gonna lost.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta set the basis for moving forward so we

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<v Speaker 1>know where his priorities are. But no, in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I don't. I ask about sexual orientation, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Um. The other conversation that we ask about

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<v Speaker 1>are what are the physical attributes? Like who do you

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<v Speaker 1>find attractive? Right? Um, so we're gonna be I look

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<v Speaker 1>at an overall picture lifestyle, attitude, values, goals, physical traits,

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<v Speaker 1>personality traits. I hit all the important criteria to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>and sustain a relationship. And more importantly, I asked some

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<v Speaker 1>key questions like now I'm giving this away, guys, like

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<v Speaker 1>because if we have more episodes, the bombs are going

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<v Speaker 1>to take notes here. But that's fine. I'm totally confident

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<v Speaker 1>all asking. I'll be all asking, Like describe a perfect date.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about the best experiences that you've had,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I really try to get to know them so

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<v Speaker 1>that when I work with the person i'm picking, I

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<v Speaker 1>try to see an envision. Is this somebody that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver the dream day? Do they have the confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>do they have the key compatibilities? Do they have the

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<v Speaker 1>physical look? I can't get it right on all marks,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always struggle that. I always struggle that question

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<v Speaker 1>to describe your perfect date. So, Courtne, can you describe

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<v Speaker 1>your perfect day? Perfect date? Look, I'm a pretty simple guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Love being by the water, so it's either at a

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<v Speaker 1>beach or lake or what not. And I'm a simple

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<v Speaker 1>person when it comes to food and drinks, a red

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<v Speaker 1>wine always, I'm a wine guy. I love red wine.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I like fish and chips. I think by

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, fish and chips, ticks, the boxes, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little block of chocolate afterwards. Do you see what he

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<v Speaker 1>just did? He gave away all the secrets. So guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what your perfect date it's going to look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me everything you just describe perfect because it's cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>Your perfect date is what you just said, this perfect

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<v Speaker 1>everything you've done in the game. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be sitting there with the best fish

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<v Speaker 1>and chips, with a beautiful few of the water, with

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing girl or boy and a box of chocolates? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the dream? Sorry, mom, I can't believe you just got

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<v Speaker 1>that from what I just said. It's unbelievable. I will

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot more from the Bachelor. Should hire you

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<v Speaker 1>to cast women? Okay, gotch you. So we're in season

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<v Speaker 1>three of this Momber's Matchmaker now right, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>a host of seasons one and two. Yes, I am

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<v Speaker 1>the matchmaker. So the competition gets fiercer and fiercer. These

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<v Speaker 1>moms are watching episodes. They're watching all the previous episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>They are taking notes. I am giving away some secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have my rolodex, I have my assistant. I am an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant Patrick who helps me, you know, plan the dates,

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<v Speaker 1>curate the dates. I have access to amazing dating professionals,

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<v Speaker 1>so I go through date training. Let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>because you suck at dating apparently apparently apparently, if you

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<v Speaker 1>could have a magic wish for one area where you

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<v Speaker 1>have a weakness in when it comes to women, what

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<v Speaker 1>would that be? Weakness how like weak in the knees

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<v Speaker 1>or weakness like item not no, not weak in the knees,

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<v Speaker 1>like like a dating skill? Where where are you lacking?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I often lack in the empathy department. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, So you lack an empathy. Where does that

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<v Speaker 1>show up? Um my inability to I guess relate to people,

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<v Speaker 1>like when people are like super emotion about certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>I can show emotion, but I have I have trouble

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<v Speaker 1>relating to those emotions and it doesn't come across as

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<v Speaker 1>like necessarily negative, but it definitely to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>different place, or do you just not have I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a very logical and rationally about thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about things. And so when people are like talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, which I obviously appreciate, I want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be able to open up to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>just have trouble I guess relating to it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way maybe that it seems it's fine, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I could do better at it, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the chance where a dating coach or myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you were the single and I had I

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<v Speaker 1>had to train you, I would take an expert and

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<v Speaker 1>work on the empathy piece, whether that is role playing

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<v Speaker 1>a situation, putting you in a in a place where

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<v Speaker 1>you can practice more empathy is also what we would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or find a girl who's equally like you who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>emote as much. That's on your level. I'm also I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also really bad at making plans. So like, I love

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out and I love being around whoever I'm dating,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm bad at being like, all right, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing this at this time, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about that. I take that all away.

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<v Speaker 1>My day concierge will plan all the days for you. You

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<v Speaker 1>You will be like a Romeo and problem solved. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go. How much does all this cost? Yeah? Can

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<v Speaker 1>I hire this person? And that's the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor is they're like, all right, you want to date?

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<v Speaker 1>You wanna? Then that's why we're on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite, right, because that's part of the that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the dating plan. When people when you actually look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, like help, I suck at dating. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like planning dates. Work with a date planner. I suck

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<v Speaker 1>at a mooting Okay, talk to a relationship coach, right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>figure out where your weaknesses are and work. Lets see help. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Since since tomorrow is Valentine's Day, let's talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. So what are some I guess dating

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<v Speaker 1>advice or dating tips that you can give to the

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who are either in a new relationship or a

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<v Speaker 1>long term relationship however long what worked some advice you

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<v Speaker 1>can give for Valentine's I guess you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that if you can show up on Valentine's Day without

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the traditional you know, flowers and chocolate, a great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to It's it's the what's that phrase got stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on that thoughts count like the simple things, right, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's instead of going out for dinner, suggesting a home

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<v Speaker 1>cook that is made to take because I've had enough

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<v Speaker 1>money to take. I'm always like, well, I drew you

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<v Speaker 1>a picture picture from recycled wood. Oh my goodness that

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<v Speaker 1>I just found it on the ground cold race. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. I mean, so you're saying, you're saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to kind of break the mold and go against

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<v Speaker 1>the grand and do something different. Always, always do something different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what has people remember, how they feel like memories,

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<v Speaker 1>the extra time that you took to make a card

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<v Speaker 1>instead of buy a card, make a meal instead of

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<v Speaker 1>buy the meal. You're a horrible date planner. So if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone was with you and knew that you whether you

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<v Speaker 1>hired someone or you did it yourself, they would know

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<v Speaker 1>if they knew you that this took a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>effort for you to plan this date and make a residue, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that would make a big That would be a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal and listening show that you listened to Dane, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you make spagetall eyes and she's allergic, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I might do that intentionally, you know, like Vegan and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, oh my god, that actually happened with a

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<v Speaker 1>mom and um an Italian mom in Season one, I

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<v Speaker 1>found a girl, didn't ask her very many questions, was

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<v Speaker 1>the prettiest girl on the street that she could find?

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<v Speaker 1>And her son, he's Italian first of all, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sun loves pasta and they're at a restaurant and he's

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<v Speaker 1>ordering meal a meal and she's completely again. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, because we all know the best, the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to match someone is just based purely off

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<v Speaker 1>of looks. If they're if they're both attractive, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. Where is your stance and what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on dating apps these days? Because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>billion app there and it seems that's the way everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>meeting someone just swapping left Alorado. However it works. Do

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<v Speaker 1>their dating app for a TV show these days? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and we actually do matchmaking on television, don't we.

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<v Speaker 1>You meet people were real relationships. So everyone signed up

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<v Speaker 1>to a TV show that you get a TV show

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<v Speaker 1>if you see dot com slash casting. Um um okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so back to your question dating apps. Dating apps

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<v Speaker 1>are a tool I when I work with a single

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<v Speaker 1>person to help them find love. It is not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>focused on one thing. First of all we should know

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<v Speaker 1>about dating apps is that everybody has one or use them.

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<v Speaker 1>Have either of you guys used to dating in the

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<v Speaker 1>past years ago? I was haven't. No, never, Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see and do you have olenges meeting people? Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to meet someone in a more organic, confronting way

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<v Speaker 1>where the nerves just get, you know, where you really

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<v Speaker 1>do start to butterfly up in the chest and you're going,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good looking girl just there. How am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to approach this? And then I quite like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that feel that adrenaline. I suppose of going up and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a rare bird. But we'll see that. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is I mean, I don't have a job,

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<v Speaker 1>so I spent a lot of time out about and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do have that time in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the day at a shopping center or at a cafe,

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<v Speaker 1>or at a night out or something like that to

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<v Speaker 1>meet people, um, you know, at about So it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not the same for everyone. I suppose confidence is key

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<v Speaker 1>and it is very confronting, it's very nerve racking. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you break through that and you just

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<v Speaker 1>approach someone, it's it's the best feeling. Well, don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that ability or a skill set, which is a large

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<v Speaker 1>number of singles in this population a dating app as

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<v Speaker 1>a tool to help them connect with other single like

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<v Speaker 1>minded people. So any time I've ever spoken to a

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<v Speaker 1>dating app, for example, the League just launched in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>I met their founder, Amanda Bradford. She's a Stanford grad.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she was on Tinder and when she was

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<v Speaker 1>single looking for a match, she found it really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find someone on her level. So what does she do.

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<v Speaker 1>She creates the League because it matches people according to

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<v Speaker 1>occupational and educational compatibility, which was important to her. So

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<v Speaker 1>dating apps are not going away. There's something new launching

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I think that if you're single

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<v Speaker 1>and actively looking, you should at least try one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I wonder if you could go about because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people like to kind of punch out

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<v Speaker 1>of their weight class, you know, so like say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like G E. D. Having guy that loves to date

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<v Speaker 1>girls that only have like their doctorate or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just something to consider as in people date out of

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<v Speaker 1>their out of the class. I mean, you never make

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<v Speaker 1>it onto the league then, will you? I guess not.

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<v Speaker 1>True process is pretty pretty Uh well that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different betting process. But there are other apps

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<v Speaker 1>that we're all known, like Tinder that is popularized by

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<v Speaker 1>physical looks. So if that's important to you, you would

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<v Speaker 1>go to that. I think it's one component for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean didn't have a lot of matchmaking algorithm from

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding. So when you're matchmaking on the TV show

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<v Speaker 1>Mombverus Matchmaker on Mixed TV. By the way, um, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're matchmaking on that TV show, do you you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take I guess looks into consideration or is it

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<v Speaker 1>solely based off of the questions that the answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it depending on whether they answer whether it looks

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<v Speaker 1>are important to them or not. But absolutely, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think for every person that I interviewed, every single person

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<v Speaker 1>placed physical attraction and some sort of attraction as important.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't anyone I met that said it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna spend the rest CeAl off with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to find them physically attractive. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have a beautiful past. I mean the people that

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<v Speaker 1>we organically organically picked, even the moms. The moms went

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<v Speaker 1>for looks over anything else when they had nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the times they didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the deeper intel than I had. So they were looking.

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<v Speaker 1>They were looking at them going would you look good

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<v Speaker 1>with my son or my daughter? Right, it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>a look, how would you look on the Christmas card

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<v Speaker 1>next year? What are my grandchildren gonna look like? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness. That was a huge motivating factor for at

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<v Speaker 1>least four moms and said my daughter needs babies, And

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<v Speaker 1>so they were looking at guys going, you're a good specimen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's initially take into the equation though, because even myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm thirty one and I'm at the stage where

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<v Speaker 1>my next relationship I'm looking for. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>waste my time. I don't know, to spend six months

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<v Speaker 1>or something little twelve months with someone and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty two and three, like I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>kids young pross so I'm at the stage now and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done it before, but I'm at the stage

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<v Speaker 1>where I look at a girl and it does across

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. I'm like, what the genetics? Yeah, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the kids going? There's a DNA test with that. It's something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. It's it's only developed in me. The older

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<v Speaker 1>I've got and the more ready I am. I supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to settle down with one person and start a family.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your vetting process like for when I meet someone? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting question. I don't know. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>someone that's UH spontaneous, outgoing, and fun to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are probably the most important quality. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>that uh is strongly opinionated in the right areas. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I do appreciate that type of I guess, ability

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<v Speaker 1>to to make decisions and then kind of not necessary

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<v Speaker 1>waiver in the way that they think about things. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds strong willed. I guess it is a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to put it. So it sounds to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's largely based on experience initially and attraction. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>physical attraction, of course. I mean I think yes, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as we all want to say, it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>important to us. I think that we all require a

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<v Speaker 1>certain level of physical attraction to the person that we're dating. First.

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<v Speaker 1>The first consideration is whether this person is attractive enough

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<v Speaker 1>for you or that you're just attracted to Sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you look I mean you always have a

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<v Speaker 1>second glance at someone you're attracted to. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have your deal breakers? Do you know what those are? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you smoking? Yeah? Yeah, smoking breaker? Fan of women

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 1>they smoke? Um, girls, you all have a really big chance.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you don't smoke, we're good and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to like you. Right, I'm trying to think they're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have to be deal breakers. Um, okay, maybe let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's do you guys are don't have a long list

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<v Speaker 1>of deal breakers, which actually tells me that you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had This is my assessment, you haven't had that many

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<v Speaker 1>horrible experiences. Most times, when I asked somebody what's your

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<v Speaker 1>deal breaker, they'll come up with a laundry list of like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't based on the fact that they've dated every person

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to meet. So let's do the reverse.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to meet like You'll hear things, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you see it online dating I don't want to smoker.

0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a drinker. I don't want to liar.

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to cheater, Like they'll just run off

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a list of things that they've experienced. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>someone who you know, works at eyehop. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll just save those types of things plug for I hub.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we work backwards from that? Then? Yes? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>then you just focus on what you do want. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the characteristic traits, but what about the deeper stuff

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.360
<v Speaker 1>like foundational compatibility? Do you ever when do you start

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, you know, things that matter to you,

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like goals and values and having children. Yes, someone a

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<v Speaker 1>woman with ambition I think is incredibly sexy. Someone that

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<v Speaker 1>like has career goals, someone that can kind of create

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<v Speaker 1>a plan for themselves five ten years down the line,

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<v Speaker 1>which is ironic because I am an ambitious person, but

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely don't have that outline set for myself five

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<v Speaker 1>or ten years. So maybe it's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>the union yang of that. But um, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think any guy is going to find ambition sexy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the I think it's said thirty eight percent according

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<v Speaker 1>to match dot COM's survey they do an annual report

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<v Speaker 1>called Singles in America, and it was reported that the

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<v Speaker 1>number one turn on that men reported was an entrepreneurial woman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um what else? What else are we talking about? Turn ons?

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<v Speaker 1>I personally, I like a girl who is flexible in

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<v Speaker 1>where they live and also flexible right right, someone who

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<v Speaker 1>can move around. So I'm a bit of a gypsy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've lived in a lot of places, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind small spaces, so like camp bands and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm what do you think of Montreal? Okay? Why? What's

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<v Speaker 1>a very specific place to ask? Yeah, I know somebody

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>who's like gypsy like that? Yeah? Um, so on mom

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.879
<v Speaker 1>versus matchmaker, we we curated a lot of dates, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear either some dating um dating faux

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<v Speaker 1>pas like bad experiences or dates that you guys really like,

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<v Speaker 1>like fun dates. Well I'll tell you. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day tomorrow and this is a secret, so this

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>days between the three of us and everyone else listening. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this podcast is going to be published

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<v Speaker 1>until later tonight, which means I just have to avoid

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>her from listening to it between today and tomorrow. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm driving us up to Santa Barbara. She's not here,

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>she's not she's not here. Now driving us up to

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara. Got a hotel for us for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of nights. Tomorrow morning on Valentine's Day, I'm taking her skydiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to a couple of spot and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're just gonna get dinner that night. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the idea that I had for us

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<v Speaker 1>for Valentine's Day. She wasn't. She will be to the

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<v Speaker 1>man who doesn't plan anything right anything. What's funny about

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<v Speaker 1>this is so she's sky of a few times, she's

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>bungee jumps a few times. She's very adventurous. Have you

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>done that. I've skydos, but I never never bungee jumps.

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny because I was asking her. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell you what we're doing for Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>but what are like the three things that you really

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do, like no matter what, like you'd

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>be upset. And she's like, she's like, just don't make

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>me jump out of an airplane. So why did you

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>go against Well? This was I asked her that after

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I had booked it, I book don't. Um, so there

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>it is if you plan stuff, and that's my biggest

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>fear of planning. They're not going to like what I planned.

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But then she said, no matter what you plan, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't cancel it. I don't want to mess with fate

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So, um, I know once we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, she's gonna be excited for it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just think like the leading up to it, the anticipation

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<v Speaker 1>might get to her a little bit. I'd have to say, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty epic date. And that's the thing, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with with Valentine's Day. I hate the faux pause. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate the chocolate flowers dinner date. Yeah, just because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna remember that in five years, five years, ten years.

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I even think back to like two Valentine's Days ago. Um,

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I was dating a girl and I can't remember exactly

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 1>what we did because I'm sure we just want to

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't necessarily make it very very special or memorable.

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Um So that's kind of that's kind of my So, So,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the most memorable Valentine's Day that you've been given?

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And what's the most memorable Valentine's date that you've been given. Uh,

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll get first first, as everyone's looking at me, I suppose.

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean again like, I've never been very materialistic. I

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>don't dig deep into my bank account and I never

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>really had that option anyway, So I always just made something.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And I remember we went down to this. I had

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this little wharf down by my house where I to

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sit down and have red wine and fish and chips

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>on the water. Yeah. I set up this tripe on

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>my camera and we were just sitting on the end

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of the wharf and I got this really long exposure

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>shot and so I captured all the stars and whatever.

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I got printed on canvas, like massive bit of canvas

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and stapled it onto a piece of ply wood and

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>made a frame out of an old door and it

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>was huge, really big, And so I gave that to her,

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but little handwritten message on the map, that's great and

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 1>what's what's the most thoughtful thing a woman has done

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>for you? Um? Does that answer the question? I don't

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>know what a long relationship steen Valentine's and not one

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>memorable one. Well before the whole bachelorette and bachelor experience,

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I was in a relationship for seven years. Okay, was

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>there anything memorable or was she not thoughtful? Uh? No,

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>she was but and and she always had full time

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>jobs and whatnot. No, I was the gypsy running around

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the world. And um, so she always did buy me stuff.

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>And she worked in the fashion industry, so I used

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to get a new jacket or she kept you stylish important,

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that's great, look good? Um for me. My most memorable

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, it wasn't what which I was given, but

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>it was I was like a sophomore in college. Um,

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>similar to Courton. You didn't really ever have much money.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think we ordered Chinese food into art to

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the house that I lived in and turned my room

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>into like a romantic date thing. And there was I

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>had this lamp that sat on the floor and I

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted to set the ambiance, so I threw like a

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>pink shirt over it to like obviously create like a ah,

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>that's so great, how old are you? That was nineteen.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, the reason it was memorable is

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>because the shirt caught on fire, and so half with

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>through dinner we realized that something smelled not like Chinese

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>foods gone wrong. But I don't think I don't think

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I can think of any other Valentine's Day where it

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>was someone had went out of their way to do

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>something nice for me. I had a really um great

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>it was Christmas, actually, but I could see how it

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>could be Valentine's Day for someone who's on a budget,

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>right someone on no, no, no, I'm someone you know

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 1>dates on a budget. In fact, with our show, most

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>of our our our our funnest date is funnest toward um.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>The best dates that we had were always dates that

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>were created by the single. Season two is already out,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>So in one episode of season two, the single who

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to match loved board games. So the

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>person I chose took it upon himself to make a

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>board game for her, incorporating all of her favorite board

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>games into one. So like spin the bottle sold have

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a spin, it would land on an action piece. They

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>get to do shots, they get to learn about themselves,

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>they get to ask questions. It was epic. I won't

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you who one, but it was great. Any game

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that encourages drinking is a game exactly. Yeah. Alcohol is

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a great thing to involve. It can take it can

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>take the first night to a home run in the

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>same night, which I think is Um. Alright, well, Carmelio,

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so we're wrapping up here. Do you want to plug anything?

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Like she mentioned earlier, we are on season three of

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Momberus Matchmaker on Mixed TV. Yes, Um, is there anything

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>else you're working on? Yeah? Well, actually I'm in l

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a promoting season three, So tonight we'll be doing a

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Facebook live on the Mixed TV page Facebook Live at

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>mixed TV. Tomorrow I'm doing a full takeover for Mixed

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>TV Socials. A reminder, you can catch seasons one and

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>season two on mixed tv dot com at mom versus Matchmaker.

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, any singles who have dating advice or who

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>need or want advice send us your questions, visit me

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>live and stay tuned perfect And that is I hate.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to watch the name Carmelia Ray, Carmelia Carmela.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. My high school girlriend's name was Carmelo I

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>A And there you go. Um, all right, well, thank

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us. Um again, check out

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Mixed TV Mombrous Matchmaker. We're in season three right now,

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and um, yeah, we'll be sure to look out for you.

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 1>We'll watch the Facebook live tonight and I'll look up

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>for you guys. Yes, please do your again for us

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>if you if you have any advice for us after

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>watching that's your games. Please I am going to be

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>raving fan and I will be there in the end

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to help you guys. Perfect you're looking forward to well.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, so thank you so much again

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to Carmelio for joining us in studio. UM. One thing

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really touch on that I think is vitally

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>important to any relationship, just any individual for that matter.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just staying in good physical condition. Um. And the

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>best way to do that is just do it at

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>your home, at your leisure, whenever you want, on demand.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And the best way to do that, as we continue

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to iterate upon this idea, is use beach Body on demand.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 1>It's honestly the best. You don't have to get up

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and go to the gym, you don't have to deal

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with the overcrowded weight section, cardio section, all that kind

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. You can basically just do it in the

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>convenience of your living room. It's accessible in your computer,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>your smart TV, your tablet, your smartphone. You don't have

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to the gym. Worried about scheduling a class

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>any of that type of stuff. Um, what's best about

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>this too is if you need help in the kitchen,

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>which is honestly where I struggle the most. I could

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>work out every single day and still be kind of

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a fat piece of crap because I don't really eat

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>healthy enough. But what they do is they help with

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the nutritional information that you need to lose weight, tone up,

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>bulk up, whatever it is for your fitness goals. You

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>can try all this stuff for free. Uh what Okay?

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You can try all this stuff for free six hunder

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>workouts through traditional information. All you have to do is

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>texting to thirty thirty thirty that's d E A N

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0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>full access to the entire platform for free. Again, I

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>know that we're still what we're probably three two and

0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a half, a month and a half into two eighteen,

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and Um, a lot of people maybe have given up

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>on their near resolutions. A lot of people's resolutions are

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to be in better, better shape. Um, it's it's not

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that hard. All you have to do is use beach

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Body on demand. You'll do it at your house, you'll

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want, um, and even if it's small,

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>little you know, twenty minute sessions, hour long sessions, however

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>long it is. That's what's nice about beach Body on Demand.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>You can really choose whatever you're in the mood for

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>um at your leisure. So yeah, texting you'll get a

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>full access to the entire platform for free, all the workouts,

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>all the nutritional information, um, which is just a crazy deal.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>So give it a shot. I just got a physical

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and how to speaking of physical condition, where do they

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>see me next year after you're a beach Body on demand.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not ready. They're not going to recognize into that place.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, by the way, I wasn't here before. Welcome back,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Dad's back. So okay, So now

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a caller. UM, this is going to

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>be Julie Caine. We'll obviously let her introduce herself. I

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want to lead into too much about this, but

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>let's get Julie on the phone if we can. Hi, Julie,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>this is Dean. Are you there, Yeah, David, I have

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to call you puppy. You're so young, call me puppy.

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, So, now what do you want to know.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, first of all, some of my friends are

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>mad at you because you hurt Christina s failing and

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. My neighbor next door, her name is Christina.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And guess what what did she say? I wrote it down.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>She told me she said she would like wait, she

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>would take Dean home and show him what older women

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.959
<v Speaker 1>are all about. How old she Julia. I just want

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to let you know you're on air. No, I'm not

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. You're on the podcast the same thing.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll call it the air. It's in the air, it's

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>in the cloud. I don't know how it really works,

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but I want you to also know that you're joined

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with me, Mark Easton, my friend Courtney Um. And to

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>your point, yes, I do deserve a lot of flack

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what happened between Christine and me, Um, But that was

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. I've learned from my mistakes. This

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>podcast has really helped kind of, you know, get my

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>butt into shape and really kind of hunkered down and

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>figure out what's important to me. So I hope that

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>your friends don't hate me anymore. I hope you guys

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>are tuning into about your Winter Games maybe tonight and

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>see you know firsthand that I am. I am, and

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>have learned a lot since that kind of bad experience

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise. Okay, but Julie phillis in on you a

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit. So Um, as far as I understand that you,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't want to be a presumptious you

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>fill us in on kind of where you're at right now. Okay,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>um Um, I was married forty five years. My husband

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>died in January, and I started, Um, I had been

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>dating this guy for eighteen months, and you know he's

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>steven nine, I'm seventy five. But I will tell you, Um,

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I really a friend of mine, her daughter was staying

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>with me, and she got me on our website called Zook,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and I went, well, I only did coffee. I don't

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>do I never did lunch at dinner because you know,

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of learning and for the rope,

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>learning the rope. So anyways, what I did, a lot

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of guys, I mean, they're sure they gotta tummy. Um,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of I'm really in the cars, and you

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>know I don't do subarus or chargers, and you know

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that kind of stuff with a six

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>pack in a rolls Royce. Yes, something. Well, they don't

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>need a six pack at my age, but you know,

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean there are there are a lot of jugs

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>out there. But I do think the dating web dating

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>websites are good for people my age. I guess my

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>question for you is how has dating changed from those

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>times in the sixties too, now that you're able to

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>be reintroduced to the dating pool. The dating um. You know,

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you something. It is kind of fun, Yeah,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it really is. What's what's the most fun part about it?

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>What's the most fun party that you can There's a

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of bonuses you can you can't get pregnant, you

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>don't care about marriage. You don't care if they spend

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the night and think, and I don't care if they

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>used by egg. That they all do well, said Julie

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>could have said a bit of myself. So does this dating?

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Does this apply for more of people of a certain

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>age or That's kind of what you're getting at is

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of act a little bit less inhibited. Yeah,

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you can be more freely. Yeah. I don't know anyone,

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but you said earlier you like to get these coffee

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>dates and not really much lunch, but now that I'm

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. Oh you are in a relationship, yeah

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>for eighteen months, but you know that comes and goes well,

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>so as as far as I understand it, Um, you're

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>interested in another man, Yes, I am. We need to

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>hear about that. You know, it's kind of fun. I

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>just kind of stressing around a little bit. Yeah, you've

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>got a sniff around the go sniffing you know, you know, yeah, exactly,

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And obviously you haven't lost your sense smell yet, so

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that's it's still useful. Julie can ask you a question, Um,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>what are you so your your husband and I'm sorry

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>again passed away in eleven? Did you say so? Since then?

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Since then? Um, you know, what sort of what were

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you looking for in a relationship? Were you like, all right,

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been married, I've done the whole Mary, I'm not

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 1>sure you've got kids. Maybe you have, but you've done

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that part of your life. Were you looking just to

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of play around a little bit to live maybe

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>back in your twenties? Yeah, but yes I was. That's

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking for. And this guy that I'm dating,

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he's on a type budjet and it's not working for me, right,

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>so you want someone who's got a little bit of

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>cash in the pocket, just spoil you rotten. We'll go No, No,

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>if we travel, I'll paid my own way and he

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>paid his way. You know, we can split dinners. I don't.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to depend on a man at my

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>agent because I have money. I'm very independent now. Perfect.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>As long as the pockets always full of Viagram, you'll

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>be fine, right. You know. I went to the doctor

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and I got all fixed up again too. You know,

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>amazing a couple of stitches. I don't know what that means.

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to know what that means.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean, Julia on the same page

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>as you, don't You are these young uns over here,

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So Julia tell us about this new guy. He's definite

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>nine really, but he's good in the bedroom, Julie, because

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like that's what you're looking for. Yeah, he

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>loves to go to the carnival. Perfect, don't we all

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>rod the merry go around? Yeah, yeah, you know what

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>carnival is. I'm just assuming you're speaking in code on

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the end, but that's when I stay. Yeah, yeah, I

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 1>love it. I think we could learn a few things

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>from yourself, Julia, I mean think alder women have. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>so it's a myth that the desire drops and you

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>get into your seventies. If a myth, if anything sounds

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like any does it actually dropped? Kind that women are

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>going to just agree in their late fifty but you can,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, get out if you go to your doctor, Julie.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing that I can relate to you

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that I've learned through hosting this podcast for the past

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>three months is that communication is incredibly important. I know

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you're probably you're you're thinking, this guy's twenty six. I'm

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, seventy four. I've been through this before. I

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to listen to him at all. I just

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say communication is incredibly important. Um So, if

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about having feelings for another guy, just take

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that into consideration. You know, definitely you're you definitely don't

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>want to break anyone's heart. You definitely don't want to

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>lead anyone on. Um we don't want to have another

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Christina situation on our hands here. That's the last thing

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>any of us want. But it sounds like you're having

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun and we definitely can't talk you

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>too much for that, um, and I'm happy to hear

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that you know, after your your forty five year long marriage,

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're able to kind of get back on the horse,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>no pun intended, and it kind of enjoy yourself a

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Well, that's what I'm doing. That's exactly what

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. And you know, I kept my shape and

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a pace left, so I feel really good

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>being out there. That's amazing. That's amazing, and it's great

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're comfortable in your own skin and all that

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. One of these days when you're down

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, if you make it down here, I

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>love to meet you in person because you seem like

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>a firecracker and I just I love to have fun.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>In fact, everybody always said, oh, we can't have a

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>party without Julie because you know, I just part Let's

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>get that hashtag trending on Instagram. You can't have a

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>party without Julie. Yeah, Well, I know, Amy, Sugarman, so

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we can go through. I can go through her. Perfect

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a plan. And I'm up up in the

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Bay Area every once in a while, so maybe we'll

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>cross paths one of these But yeah, I know I

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>have a Las Vegas number, but because we live there,

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but then I moved to Latea, So yeah, please, I'd

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>love to go out and talk and get to know

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you're better, but not in that way. On that way, Julie,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.879
<v Speaker 1>as a grandmother, everyone could everyone could use that type

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of relationship in us. All right, we'll Julie, thank you

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:05.959
<v Speaker 1>so much for calling, and we do appreciate you sharing

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>your story. And again, if I can stress one thing,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it's communication and honesty. Um, but it sounds like you're

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>having a blast week. We can't. We can't knock you there,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for calling in. Maybe we'll

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>circle back with you in a couple of months and

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>see how things have progressed and just kind of catch

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>up with you. Okay, thank you, take care, good luck

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>with everything. I have a good Valentine's Day. Well, she

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>was interesting. That's exciting. I'm glad that that's not going

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to go away, because I feel like those go I

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>assume my parents aren't interested in that anymore, certainly not grandparents,

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but maybe they are. They're just keeping it from us.

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say that they're keeping it from you, probably

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>for good reason. It's gross that that may seem yeah,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>would you like to be no interest in that? But

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>good for them. I hope that's still going on. That's good.

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Glad to hear that you can be that promiscuous. I

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>suppose as well. At yeah, at the rock Pold, I

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>just have any fool. He's dotting around the world and

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm visitting carnivals all over the over the planet, carnivals

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>rotting older the rods at the park they were. I

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 1>don't easily get uncomfortable, um, but there's just something about

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that that just makes me uncomfortable. I get it. I

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>understand that, and I mean, we're happy for her, and

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad she's happy, but yeah, yeah, I understand. It's

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it's like you're you're happy

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>for them, but you're like kind of gross out a little. Anyways,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what I hope that Julie gets for Valentine's Day tomorrow.

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope that one of these guys that she's dating,

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that she's going to these carnivals with, is at least

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>taking into consideration that she has needs as a human being,

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and one of those needs is to look fresh and

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>fly and fashion forward, fashion forward. If I could talk

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and the best way to do that, if if if

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they're on a budget, which it sounds like one of

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the guys that she's dating is UM, is to go

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>through thread up dot com. And so what thread up

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>dot com is basically this online thrift store where you

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>can set some filters, you can set your size, your styles,

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>your colors, all that kind of stuff. UM. And instead

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of having to go to one of these thrift stores

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to sort through rac after rac after rac and probably

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not find anything at all, is you're able to do

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>all of that online. You're able to get anything that

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you want, uh, that you find online for up to off,

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>which is fantastic. A lot of these items still have

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.399
<v Speaker 1>tags on them, never even been worn. Every single item

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>has been through a twelve point in quality inspection process

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>ensuring that every item is like new or a new condition.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>So if you go to thread up dot com slash Dean,

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that's thread up th h r E d up dot

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>com slash Dean, you'll get an extra thirty percent off

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>your very first order. UM. Whenever I get a do

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, I just throw things in the shopping cars.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>If you get one first order and you get thirty

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>percent off the already up to make it make it

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a big one plus the retail price. So yeah, so

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you could spend a hundred dollars and potentially save nine

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>on that plus the thirty percent. That's good. I think

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that math works. UM give it a shot. Go to

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>thread up dot com slash Dan, t h R E,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>d U P dot com slash Dean for an extra

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent off. Again, it's just your first order, so

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>load up that shopping cart with everything you want. They

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>make returns easy as well. Uh. Sometimes with those closes,

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.439
<v Speaker 1>sizing can be difficult, so if you get something doesn't

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>fit you quite right, you can send it right back

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and they'll um either send you the right size or

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>give you US store credit all that kind of stuff. Um.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Thread up dot com slash Dean extraty percent off the

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>already up to off retail prices on a lot of

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>these cool things. We have so many emails and we

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten to any of them, but a lot, a

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>lot with suggestions for the name of this show, and well,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I really I think you'd actually be boring to go

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>through all of these because there are so many. So

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I've picked out a couple that I really like. This person,

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Maren really likes dating deanong alert, which is my idea

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>for the name of the show dating. So we talked

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>about this a little bit before you you did, okay um.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I think last week I mentioned dating with Dean or

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>dating Dean had merit, but I think that people keep

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>iterating it to dating with Dean, and I like, like

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>dating with Dean as much as dating Dean. Anglert like

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>forgetting Sarah Marshall, like being Jean Malkovich, Like I read

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the examples, maybe, but I like the form of it.

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Give me, how does how does we're getting Sara Marshall

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>applied to that? It doesn't at all. It's just it's

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>just the the phrase forgetting Dan Unglet Yeah, forgetting bachelor.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind anyway this person like that, And they

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>did say add with okay, fine, that's Maren. I did like,

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>who is the one that I really like? Let's see.

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Isabella had help when dating is rough dudes, and don't

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>dating day to day dating dear Dean? She liked, how

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>about day to day dudes, and don't with Dean. It's

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a little day to day dating dudes, and don't with Dean.

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Christy Krista has debatable dating advice with the Angler dating

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this okay, this is the one I like the most.

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>This is amy since I feel you guys still need help.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>A thought of A thought of this one that's not

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a mouthful, it's not negative and some of you all

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>can agree on. I'm okay with this one. If you

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>are navigating dating with Dean Angler navidating who never dated,

0:43:58.080 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the two words you do nat to

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>can just combined them navigating dating dating. It's no. I

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.439
<v Speaker 1>think it's too tough for them, she says, love you, Dean,

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you are truly a resilient human. That is nice to

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>her to say, just blindly dating with the Unglert Michelle

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>had at ten of them. Can I ask you guys

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>this as producers, because have been in this industry for

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a while. You how annoyed of me? Are you that

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I want? I'm lobbying so hard for this name change.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Not me, not at all, not at all, um, because

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>was this name your idea? Nope? Exactly, and we're aware

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of that. Are you offended by the name day? So,

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you really suck at dating? Like

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I slapp in the face every time you walk in

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the studio? Exactly? And I think that only one person

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>can sulf deprecate so much. And we've covered this to

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the point of Naja. And again that's kind of why

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I bring the topic up, that you guys might be

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>annoyed by it. But it's like at first it was

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like a fun little gimmick and there's like fun little satire,

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 1>but now it's just like, all right, the tricks, the

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>tricks olds. You know, I think there are people annoyed

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>with you, but I'm not one of them because I

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>also I think it's a fun running bit, but also

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to get a new four years from now, we're still

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>taking maybe, but I think I think we will come

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>up with one that we like because it is I

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>think it may be time to retire this one. I

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>do agree with you, and it was thrust upon you, yes,

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I still agree to do it. So

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>there's only so much wiggle room you can have there.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But I do appreciate you guys aren't completely annoyed to

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the what's to your what's end right now. I enjoy

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the days you come in to record your poet. That's

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>part of my week. And when you get a girlfriend,

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of doesn't really make that much sense, does it. Yes,

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>well that's part of the problem. Yeah, exactly, Diting Dane,

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Diting with Dane. Relationship emails before we wrap it up, Karina,

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I've madating my boyfriend almost seven years. I love with

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>all my heart and feel like he's my person and

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>my soul mate. Before I go any further, she's twenty four,

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>he's twenty two. They've been together seven years. Okay, so

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. We had our daughter very young

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>when we started the relationships. So that's another factor here,

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 1>is that they were teenagers when they started at a baby.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>As teenagers, we've been through a lot of ups and

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.240
<v Speaker 1>downs in our relationship. We were really young, we got together,

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>had to face parenthood, still growing up. A year and

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a half now, we've been going steady and our relationship

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>has been going great. At this point in my life,

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't see myself with anyone else. I'm ready to

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.280
<v Speaker 1>settle down, extend our family. I used to push marriage

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but I've stopped bringing it up. My co

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>workers and friends remind me he's only twenty two, and

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>even though I might be ready, he might still be

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure everything out. He has brought up the

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation here and there, but how he wants to make

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>me his wife but we're still not engaged. I'm not

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>sure if I should just let it happen or actually

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have the conversation again. I'm sure that I have made

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it clear that I want to get married, but I

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>also don't want to scare him off. Seven years together

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 1>should be enough time for him to know. I guess

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>my question is when is the right time to bring

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it up. Otherwise I'm gonna be waiting forever and what

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>if he decides later he doesn't want to get married

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm wasting my time? Thanks Dan, ps I hope

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcast name changed. Yeah, cheers to you, Karina.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>This is a tough one. This is a This is

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a unique one, very because you don't really often see

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>uh teenage parents that have been in this this long

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of a relationship. Right, you know you're going to be

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>connected to this guy for the rest of your life.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's a child. Here's my thing with this. And I

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong because I'm neither married nor do I

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>have kids, but I think having a kid with someone

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is more pivotal to a relationship than marrying someone. You

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>could certainly make that argument. Yes, that that is a

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>closer bond, yeah than in a marriage even could be,

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>although there are people who have a one night standing

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>there's very little bond. But I see what you're saying.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that they're still in a relationship up

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>seven years after already having kids together, I feel like

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 1>that kid is more bonding than the marriage, like you said,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that she's worried that by bringing

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>up the idea of marriage to him, she's going to

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>scare him off. But if they still have that daughter together,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>then he's seemingly not going to go anywhere. I don't

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>understand his hesitancy. That'd be interesting to get to him

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>on it. But also he's twenty two. Keep that in mind.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Here's my thing. If you have a child with someone,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you are now dedicated to that child to raise that

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>child to the best of your ability and what is

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>best for that child exactly, and what's best for that

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>child more times than not, and I don't know exactly,

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's for them to have a mother and father

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>that are living in the same house. I would agree

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with that at least two loving parents. So that's my advice.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that she should be scared to bring

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it up with him and be like, hey, this is

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>what I need from you right now. And I can

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>understand why she wants to get married, like it's probably

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the kids, probably like five or six years older. Less.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>She didn't say here, but but it seems like, yeah.

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I wonder like did she put a deadline on it?

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Does she think like, I really don't put a deadline

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>right because there's the kids always going to be there,

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So I stick it out as both a husband and

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>a father. What do you what do you advise? I

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>would love to talk to this guy and see where

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>his heads that because I know when I was twenty two,

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I was nowhere near ready to get married, nowhere near

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>ready to have kids. No, that's very true. I remember

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>being with a woman when I was around twenty two.

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Wi ish uh, and I ended it for that reason,

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not going to marry this woman and this

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is getting really serious. So I need to just stop

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>this now before it gets any further and people get

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>hurt worse because this isn't happening. I'm twenty two, I'm

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not ready the kid. Was it on purpose? I doubt it?

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if that's a factor like this guy's

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like it feels a little trapped, maybe by the you

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say mistakes, but the decisions they've made,

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the choices they've made. It might feel trapped by that,

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think, I think you got to wait

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.919
<v Speaker 1>it out and bring it up gently from time to time,

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:24.439
<v Speaker 1>but hopefully he'll come around. Corny, I feel like there's

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>just a whole lot of pressure in this situation. I

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>think she's putting too much pressure and emphasis on marriage

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>when they've got a kid and that's a binding enough factor.

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think in a relationship they'll stay together because of that.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>He's twenty two. I think he's probably having pressure third

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>party from his mates. I mean, how many friends of

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>yours were married at twenty two. I mean, I'm sure

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the boys when he goes out for a boy's night

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>there and go, you know when you're gonna pop the question?

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 1>And we used to do it to my friend who's

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship for ten years, and we always

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>used to say. We used to mock him and be like,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>oh when when when you getting the ring? When are

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you dropping a knee? And I think that kind of

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 1>pressure from your friends is enough to kind of want

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to not do it at the age of twenty two.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll probably feel it when it's rot and

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe she's putting too much pressure on

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>him as well. But here's the thing too, because he

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.839
<v Speaker 1>she was saying that he will sometimes bring up an

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>engagement in marriage all that kind of stuff, so it's

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely in his head. Maybe he's just waiting for the

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>right moment. Yeah, yeah, wedding the pressure is issue is

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting because the other element of that is getting married. Also,

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>as the guy in the traditional gender roles, he's going

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to feel the pressure of him now having to support

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>this child, which I'm sorry, he's already working his tail

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>off and support her. Potentially, there's a lot of pressure

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in that. I remember not wanting to propose until I

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was more comfortable financially because you just feel the pressure

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of that in your life. You don't want to be

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 1>scrambling and be married with a kid. Weddings are not cheap,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and you want to do it right. I guess here's

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>my question for for her, for everyone in the studio too,

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>is I advise not to give him like the ultimatum,

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think that should be Like you need

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>to at least have your mind made up in six

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>months or something like that. But let's say that they

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>keep going down this path, that the child is brought

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>up under both of them for the next five ten years,

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and then he decides he doesn't want to be with

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>her anymore. Wouldn't that almost be better because then that

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:11.919
<v Speaker 1>allows the child to have been brought up I guess,

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and all look at least a more familial setting, and

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 1>then they can start dating again. I don't know. I'm

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>just trying to I've got friends who are in their

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 1>late thirties and who have kids and are not married

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and don't put emphasis on marriage and weddings and rings.

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, at the end of the day, what

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 1>is it. It's a big party, you dressed up nice,

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you get some cool photos, you wear a ring on

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>your finger. I mean, some people do put too much emphasis,

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, on marriage when realistically it's about the relationship.

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Well that's something Karinis should think about it. And I

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.319
<v Speaker 1>forget who I think it was a celebrity couple maybe,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>but they were they've been together forever, but they never

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>got married. And the reasoning is we're together because we

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 1>want to be here and if we didn't want to

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>be here, we would leave. And we don't need a

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper to force us to be together. We're

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>here because we want to be So maybe you think

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of it that way. Your your your man Karina is

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 1>there because he wants to be there, and you'll both

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>be there as long as you want to be that's true.

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think the consensus here is do not do

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 1>not push him to make a decision of things, just

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of unfold or allow him to mature, and at

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a certain age he's going to realize what's important, what

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>he wants, what his priorities are, and hopefully it's the

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.479
<v Speaker 1>child and hopefully it's great. I know we talked about

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>age a lot on this podcast. He's twenty two, she's

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty four. And I know it's hard to like generalize

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and and all that kind of stuff, but he's younger

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.959
<v Speaker 1>than she is. She's had a child. I would venture

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to say that she's more mature, so she's more ready

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>for the marriage aspect. He um to Courtney's point of

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>seeing all his friends go out and you know, go

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to the bars, all that kind of stuff. Um, but

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he is still around is very telling.

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>That he wants to be there. He's just like struggling

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe with his identity, what whether he wants to be

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a father, whether he wants to go out with his

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>friends and party that kind of stuff. But he's there.

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>He's there because he wants to be right. And you're right.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Women are always more mature than men. I think, like,

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're at the same age, the woman is more mature.

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that she's two years older than she

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>is than he is, she's way more mature. All Right.

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 1>This woman just calls herself, Am I crazy? Yes? All right?

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>She's twenty six, he's twenty eight. And I'm just gonna

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>summarize this one because I think I've got it down

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. Um. They were having some issues, some tense situations,

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and she was about to leave for a trip to Europe,

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>and she said, I can't do this anymore. Let's break up,

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of flipped about that. The next morning

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>they talked and she said, Okay, let look, I'm going

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to Europe. Let's take a week. We're gonna think things

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>through and see if he can invest in our relationship.

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.240
<v Speaker 1>She leaves for Europe, she comes back and he's weird

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 1>he's weird because he then admits that he slept with

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>someone while she She was furious, but more saddened by

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>everything in the thought of losing her person. That's a

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 1>very sweet and sad way of putting it. She still

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>wants to be with him, and they've they've spoken sense,

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>but he will not admit that he cheated because he

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>says this situation was not cheating because back to the

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Old Friends episode, we were on a break. She says,

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>we weren't on a break. We're gonna take a week

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and think about things, but that doesn't constitute a break necessarily,

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and he was in the wrong. She really wants him

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.720
<v Speaker 1>as part of her life, even if it's just friendship.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>She says that my nuts, I've always gone with my

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>gut and something is telling me to keep fighting for us.

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Should I just move on and leave it behind or

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>follow my intuition? Oh this is the ps that that

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>bothered me. She said, I didn't much watch much of

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Rachel Lindsay's season, but I truly enjoyed this podcast. Your genuinity,

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>which I don't believe is a word, but I like it,

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>justin misused the word. Your Your genuinity is refreshing, and

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I love the relationship between you and Mark sort of

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>father's son, oh man, But then followed up a big

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 1>broll little bit. Yeah, I'll take big roll, little ro

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>But then I did the math in my head. I

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, okay, father, so my son is actually

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>older than Okay, so what do we think here? Follow

0:54:55.440 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>your intuition, keep fighting. I think that if he actually cheated,

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and if she actually believed that he cheated on her,

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>her gut wouldn't still be telling her to fight for him.

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.400
<v Speaker 1>So you don't think she believes he cheated, or at

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>least doesn't believe he's a cheater. I'm gonna say, no,

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he didn't change. That's one. It's a tough one. But

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>if they didn't have that conversation, which she initiated saying like,

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we need a break here, then if

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.279
<v Speaker 1>they were solid when she went to Europe, then it's

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:32.919
<v Speaker 1>a different story. If he saves someone, then that's a changing.

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>But if they're on this bright thing from a woman's

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>point of view, I think they look at this and say,

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't go a week without sleeping with somebody else?

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Did she means that little to him? That all she

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 1>did was opened the door the slightest crack, and he

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>runs out and gets into bed with somebody else. And

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the flip side for sure. I mean it's always

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 1>funny too, especially when I don't think this relationship ended

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>when she went for Europe once Europe, but um I

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>had this. I'm sure there has been like like have

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>wrote about it, like a meme about it or something

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like that, where when two people break up for however

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 1>long they've been dating, the guy in the short term

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is very excited and very ready to move on to

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the next girl, and the girl is very heartbroken and

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>not ready to move on. And then like I would say,

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>like three weeks is kind of three weeks of the

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>cut off line to where then the guy becomes depressed

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about not having that relationship and then the girl is excited.

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh wow, short term guys excited. Long

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>term he's upset, short term girls upset, long term she's excited.

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Flips of three weeks, Yes, whatever the time is. But

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like the way the maturation of the

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 1>post mortem of the relationship, and it's also different ways

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of coper like that is a guy I have freedom,

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 1>let me, let me, I'm gonna deal with my stress

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>by proving I've still got it and go out and

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and then he realizes that he needs that other significant

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>other than his life. Then it gets upset. I'm saying

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in this situation, the breakup, it sounds like they broke

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>up in a sense because he fought for it. She

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I don't know, I don't know what.

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's the quote. We would take a week to think

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>things through, to see if he could invest in our relationship.

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So the week was established he was only going to

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>be awake. It's not like that now, good point, it's

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 1>only I actually love you and it's only been awake.

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not an open ended break in, which would be

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>he'd be more free to do what you want. One

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>makes it different, then, yeah, if you if you specified

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that it's only gonna be seven days and you actually

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>are okay, we're gonna take a five year break. You

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>cannot allow took up with anyone else. Five years. We're

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>going to reassess our relationship, come back to it and

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>see where we're from there. I don't know if I

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily agree with that. Well, so here's the hurdle. Like

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they still want to be together right there.

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>They're still talking, they're still around each other, and he

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>won't admit to cheating. So I guess the question is,

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>why is that so important to you? Am I crazy

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that he admits the cheating? Yeah? Why is that important?

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing he's not admitting. He's admitting to a

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 1>year idea of cheating. He's admitted to the thing that

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>he performed, the physical, actually perform He admitted of that.

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>He confessed it. Yes, so what you have to put

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a light blow it? Why is that so important? I'm

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>wondering if maybe we can you two can get past this. However,

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you can get past it. He sees it one way,

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you see it another way. It is what it was.

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Did she sleep with anyone in Europe? That's the thing.

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's upset that she didn't take that portunity. Maybe

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>she tried to couldn't get anyone else. I'm just gonna

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>go back to him. My advice is acknowledge what happened

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and move on with you and him as you are

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 1>right now? Can that work? Don't worry about whether it

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was or wasn't infidelity. I don't think that he cheated

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:18.920
<v Speaker 1>on you. I don't think what he did was good,

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it was cheating. I think that

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you still have if your guy still tells you

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to pursue him, to pursue it. This is Rachel Um.

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because I can relate to this one. She's

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, pretty active data living in San Francisco. A

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>few months ago, she matched with the guy in Bumble

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to play. On their first date,

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 1>she said, how about this cool pop up bar? He said,

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't drink, but I'd love to go,

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that's okay. She's okay, let's just get

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>coffee and stead He said, okay. Uh. He followed up

0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 1>for a second date and she said no because the

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>whole sober thing was in the back of her head.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 1>She's not a party girl, but drinking is part of

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 1>her leisure and social life. She'd like it, and he

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>significant other drink too. So last week she matched with

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>another guy. Before they went out, he said, by the way,

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't drink. So she's attracting these guys for some reason.

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>But she was hesitant, but she did go out with them.

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 1>It was great, but she did feel like there was

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>an elephant in the room when she ordered a drink

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't. She says, why does it bother me?

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Do other people feel the same way? I think drinking

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is so ingrained into today's dating culture, since most first

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>dates are meeting for drinks. I tried to dry January,

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and sober dating itself was an experience. Side note, She's

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>applied for the Bashel three times. Dean, do you have

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>any tips for her to get on the bach. We'll

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 1>get to that side note later. I will say that

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it really depends on what Rachel plans to get on

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a get out of a relationship. If she wants to

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 1>just kind of date, casually hook up with people, then

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>she should be looking I guess maybe using that as

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a vetting process. If they don't drink, then maybe you

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>can't be interested in them. But if she wants like

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a long term, meaningful relationship, I think the guys that

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>don't drink are better suited for that. And I know

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>both of you don't drink, Eastern and Mark, and I

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>think that a guy that doesn't drink is much more

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>open and committed to the idea of a long term

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>relationship than a guy that does go out in party

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>every weekend. That's interesting. So I've never I've never been

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a drinker. I've never been drunk. I don't know anything

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>about that whole world. When my wife and I started dating, uh,

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>she you know, didn't drink much because she was underage.

1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh And to this day, she drinks wine and that's

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 1>about it. But she will get drunk. She'll go out

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and party with her friends. She always has a designated driver.

1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a plus, that's me. But she doesn't get to

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:17.560
<v Speaker 1>drink with her partner. But she's known that, never noted

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 1>any other way. But she's fine with that. She just

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>drinks with her friends. Her parents loved that. I was Mr.

1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Responsibility that that that was pretty cool. So anyway, I

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.200
<v Speaker 1>would say, my only advice is, don't count someone out

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.720
<v Speaker 1>for that. And again, I think it really depends on

1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 1>what she wants to get out of the relationship. I

1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 1>think the guy that's sober is very much more dedicated

1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to having a meaningful long term relationship than a guy

1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that parties every weekend. That's my advice. And have a

1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>good sense of who they are and what they want

1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in life. To take things more seriously in the romantic world.

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I would say there's there's two sides of this because

1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I I have never drank. I've never tried drags. I've

1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been totally sober my entire life. I grew up

1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of the straight edge community. I was

1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:57.680
<v Speaker 1>in strange bands and stuff. I knew a lot of

1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:00.240
<v Speaker 1>kids that didn't drink, that were total losers, that like,

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they didn't try in school. They were just

1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like like they kind of held this sobriety as a

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a um, you know, a respectable part

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of their personality and felt like that was the one

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 1>thing they could kind of hang on to. It's like, hey,

1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't drink. I'm a great guy. I have two

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>point five grade point everything exactly like I got horrible grades.

1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a job. I'm kind of a loser,

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but hey, I don't drink, you know. So um, I

1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:25.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's in terms of like looking at it to

1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.200
<v Speaker 1>reflect on somebody's personality, it's, uh, you know, you can

1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.200
<v Speaker 1>use it as a as a kind of guideline, but

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>also it's definitely something to get to know someone more about.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, don't kind of out for not drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>right And the other question, which you can get to

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 1>eventually on a date is why have they just simply

1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:43.680
<v Speaker 1>like me. I've just made that choice. My dad had

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 1>some issues with it, so I know I'd probably enjoyed

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot, so I don't want to go anywhere near it.

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<v Speaker 1>So and that's just a choice I've made in life.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes there's guys that are sober for a reason

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and they've got quite a path, or they have real

1:01:54.600 --> 1:01:56.960
<v Speaker 1>issues with alcohol, are very addictive personality, and none of

1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that should be a deal breaker either. But it's just

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:01.680
<v Speaker 1>more information about situation before you make that decision. Um

1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.640
<v Speaker 1>So Alex Bordakov from my season the Russian didn't get

1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>much screen time. Not many people know about him just

1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 1>because he I don't know for whatever reason, but he

1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't drink at all, and whenever we go out together,

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because he's always the one act even more

1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 1>outrageous than any of them to drink. He's like dancing

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>on tables, taking a shirt off, that kind of stuff,

1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's more fun than any of us. So just

1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 1>because someone's not drinking too it, I mean, I guess

1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it feels weird for the person's ordering a drink and

1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:24.959
<v Speaker 1>the other person is not, but doesn't mean it's gonna

1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>be any less fun. That's a really good point, because

1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I do. I was at Eastern's wedding. I was riding

1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy's shoulders at one point, like, I had a

1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.800
<v Speaker 1>blast something about being around drunk people, kind of all

1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the inhibitions going. Would you date somebody who doesn't drink, Yes,

1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:43.400
<v Speaker 1>no problem, no problem at all. I think I dare

1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to say it. Almost prefer it really because I think

1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I drink socially, um, once or twice a weekend. Um,

1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 1>you see it as a plus. I see it as

1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a social thing. I could see how cutting back would

1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:58.520
<v Speaker 1>be beneficial. Not that they like need to cut back

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.920
<v Speaker 1>by any means, but it you just feel more responsible.

1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess when you're not drinking quite as often. I

1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:06.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm on the flip side to you. Um.

1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:09.600
<v Speaker 1>For me, I mean, yeah, I date someone who doesn't drink,

1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.400
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I want my partner to

1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:14.080
<v Speaker 1>be my best friend. And I have some of the

1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:16.880
<v Speaker 1>best nights out randomly. I mean, I don't I don't drink,

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, every week or every weekend or whatever, but

1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:21.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the best nights I've had with my best

1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.160
<v Speaker 1>friends have been nights out on the turn where you

1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have pre drinks at home, you play games and everyone

1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:27.280
<v Speaker 1>gets a little silly, and then your party on and

1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, nightclub crawl and whatever, and then you wake

1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:32.000
<v Speaker 1>up next to each other and just go away pretty

1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>hung over. Let's get a bacon and eggs and coffee

1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and um, so drop up together and just lays around

1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on the beach. Um. I think, yeah, that it's it's

1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:42.120
<v Speaker 1>an experience you can have with your best friend and

1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:46.360
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Um.

1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it definitely can go either way on that

1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:50.360
<v Speaker 1>one for me personally, So I would say, don't rule it,

1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:52.280
<v Speaker 1>don't rule them up because of that, but get a

1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:54.480
<v Speaker 1>little more information, get to know them as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>You wanted to know how to get on the bach

1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:59.200
<v Speaker 1>three times? Can you give me some tips to get

1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:02.080
<v Speaker 1>through things? He's a tape You've applied three times? Done try.

1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they just haven't cast the bachelor that's right for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep trying. Do they do that? Do they try to

1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:11.960
<v Speaker 1>match people up with the right bachelor? I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in Australia they had two bachelorettes that would

1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:20.880
<v Speaker 1>considering right down to the last time. And I had

1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:25.280
<v Speaker 1>two separate costs forecast forecast for each girl, and so

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<v Speaker 1>when they decided on the actual girl, they're like, these

1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:28.960
<v Speaker 1>are all the boys that it goes? Was that the

1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:30.320
<v Speaker 1>season you were on? Yeah, so the other guy with

1:04:30.360 --> 1:04:32.080
<v Speaker 1>cast you never wouldn't have gone on. That's mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess, Okay, there you go. So yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it is the guy. Maybe they're just waiting to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right guy that suits whatever you're I guess questionnaire answers,

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<v Speaker 1>what other what other criteria do they look for? What

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<v Speaker 1>could you do to stand out more? Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the audition process? Well, so I'm a weird I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like the black sheet because I didn't nessarily go through

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<v Speaker 1>the audition process or anything like that. UM, I do

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<v Speaker 1>a good looking, scraped off straight and when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>not No, not because of that. UM. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>heard like success stories of like friends that have been

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, Like they send like an outrageous audition

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<v Speaker 1>tape essentially, so I would say, like, the more outrageous

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<v Speaker 1>about dations you can be on your audition tape, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the better. Um, just just because the show loves personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>No one really wants to have someone still on there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to They want somebody who they remember. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>if they watch a hundred tapes in a row, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones they remember, the ones are gonna want, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, um, as I was going because I still

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<v Speaker 1>although I didn't go through the audition process, I still

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<v Speaker 1>met with plenty of the producers before I went on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, like two at a time, over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of weeks. Um. So if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know audition, how did you? Um? You knew somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>bet at the producer? Wow? How funny? Um? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with a couple of the executive producers

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, telling me your story, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have an interesting story, I guess. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, this kid, you know, grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a weird way and that's what we find interesting about him,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's like a normal person. Um. So they

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<v Speaker 1>love like the outrageous unique types. I guess. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>one more And this is a very astute point from

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<v Speaker 1>Leah h being made a comment about being insecure, even

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<v Speaker 1>more so after being in on TV. I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>the speak about something called imposter syndrome, which I felt

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made sense for Dean. It sounds terrible. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the same kind of feeling. I grew up very

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<v Speaker 1>poor and have excelled in my life to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I feel like I'm an impostor among a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of successful people, always afraid they'll realize I don't fit

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<v Speaker 1>in or something. We have to recognize that we are

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<v Speaker 1>where we are because of our accomplishments, our dedication, and

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<v Speaker 1>our effort. It's not just dumb luck that Dean has

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<v Speaker 1>made it to where he is. He should feel deserving

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<v Speaker 1>by the way he's a ps. She met her husband

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<v Speaker 1>on Plenty of Fish and they just celebrated to the

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<v Speaker 1>three year wedding anniversary. After meeting several people who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want anything serious, I just began to be completely upfront

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone that talked about about wanting a relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>then finally I found him. I or my heart and

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<v Speaker 1>my sleeve and it worked. So happy. Good advice for

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<v Speaker 1>Erica and whoever else. Well. Congratulations on three years, Leah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Um. The impostor syndrome is interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Cortney can kind of attest to this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. I don't know, what do you think? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you are. You're a product of your own success,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you've pat yourself in the back and

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<v Speaker 1>you deserve everything you've got. If you've made it to

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<v Speaker 1>that point in your life, then you've worked hard for

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<v Speaker 1>it and you've got there because you deserve it. And yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you should just give yourself all there in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think anyone you surround yourself with should recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that as a compliment. Accomplishments, recognize you where you came

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<v Speaker 1>from and just deployed you for it. Yeah, I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily look at myself as a successful person

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<v Speaker 1>by any search of the imagination. And what's funny, too,

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<v Speaker 1>is I look at Ben as incredibly successful Ben Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember, I think he posts an Instagram video

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago about how he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing to deserve this platform here. I am granted

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<v Speaker 1>this ability to reach you know, million people, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I mean, that's exactly. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of feels the same way, where he's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily living up to his full potential, although he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible job and doing so many things, um but

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<v Speaker 1>as as me, I look up to him as successful

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<v Speaker 1>even though he livesn't look up to himself as successful

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, which is just weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of people may be too harsh

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<v Speaker 1>on themselves. I think the insecurities honestly, And this might

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<v Speaker 1>be why I'm trying to change the name so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Is because of this name of this podcast. If you

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<v Speaker 1>judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you start kind of being addict, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like, I put myself down so often coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, and you know, I talked about my podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends and people that I meet on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, and it's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm gonna get a little insecure about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look around the room and it just says Dane sucks

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<v Speaker 1>at dip. And if if you looked at if you

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<v Speaker 1>walked into your office every morning, it had it quite

1:08:14.080 --> 1:08:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a bad how terrible you are something, it would probably

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<v Speaker 1>get you giving you a complex. It's not just a

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<v Speaker 1>bad name, it's making you insecure even more. Stared at

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<v Speaker 1>it for hours a day. I promoted on my social channels.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys listen to my podcast, Like what if you

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<v Speaker 1>went home and Namy was like, Hey, Mark, you suck

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<v Speaker 1>at producing? How you have a job you go at

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<v Speaker 1>here today? Well, you know, it's funny with the imposter

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome because I actually have had I've put together quite

1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:43.599
<v Speaker 1>a little career in radio here. I've been in radio

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty six years now and I'm the executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>of V with Ryan Secret. But every day as I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the halls here, I don't feel like I've never

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I belong. I've never felt like I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. I always felt like I've somehow gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to this point and it's not gonna last much longer. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a testament to how much you love your

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<v Speaker 1>job though, Like you walk in and go, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I How did I get here? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably why you've been here for slone because you actually

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<v Speaker 1>walk in and you surprise yourself every day like this

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. I think the people who did my

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<v Speaker 1>job before me, like those guys knew what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just trying to figure out on a day

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<v Speaker 1>to day basis, get through it and go home. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that whenever people ask me about this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and you get brought up because I mean, essentially you're

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<v Speaker 1>like a host of this podcast. Thank you. Nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>the highest things to say about you because you do

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<v Speaker 1>got you do have such a presence about you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you are so gifted at doing this and you do

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<v Speaker 1>guide things. You're essentially the glue that holds this entire

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<v Speaker 1>podcast together. In my eyes, that's very nice. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're saying that again, it's the thing to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at Ben Higgins, he says the same thing. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm successful. I you said the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing right now too. It's it's crazy because, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>look at you and I see someone that's incredibly talented.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when Jackson was in here, uh he was like

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that guy Mark like he taught me all these

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<v Speaker 1>things and in a short amount of time, like all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. So um, it's just weird to

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<v Speaker 1>see the way that we view ourselves versus the way.

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<v Speaker 1>It is interesting. It is very I wonder does does

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates feel that way? Ask Ryan Secret? Secret? I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>there are times, who does I think maybe it's humility

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big part of it, and that's important if

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<v Speaker 1>you're someone like the Kardashians. Okay, sure a lot of

1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:18.320
<v Speaker 1>those girls were born into it from their parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall and Kylie and and whatnot, So they were born

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<v Speaker 1>in the spotlight, and people like, uh, well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson's kids, even Michael Jackson was a star from

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<v Speaker 1>a young age and whatnot. But I think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>different for families and kids who are who are born

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<v Speaker 1>in the spotlight, but for people like ourselves who have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got to the position through hard work and

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<v Speaker 1>sure twist and turns of fate and whatever, but we've

1:10:42.720 --> 1:10:45.120
<v Speaker 1>always been the right time, at the right place, in

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<v Speaker 1>the right situation and being dedicated and motivated enough to

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<v Speaker 1>push ourselves further and climb the ladder, pay yourself on

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<v Speaker 1>the back. Yeah. And also, you don't want to forget

1:10:53.080 --> 1:10:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the amount of luck involved and then huld help involved, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you forget that stuff, that's when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to lose touch with the reality. I think I've worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Ryan Secrets for eight years now and he definitely

1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:05.320
<v Speaker 1>is continuing to do radio for a reason because he

1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:07.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take for granted the fact that he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to all these people on the radio every morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he can take calls from people that people take the

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<v Speaker 1>time to tune into him in the morning. Like he's

1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:16.080
<v Speaker 1>still very honored by that, and that's why he's still

1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:17.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it, because he still sees it as a privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>not as a chore, not as a house or not

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<v Speaker 1>something that's beneath him or I hear so many people

1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:24.840
<v Speaker 1>say to me, secrets is still doing radio? Seriously yea,

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't even doing so many different things for this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Its a down to worth, humble bloke that recognizes his

1:11:32.360 --> 1:11:36.559
<v Speaker 1>beginnings and appreciate It's great. He's one of my biggest idols,

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<v Speaker 1>has been since I was a little kid. I love

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<v Speaker 1>him today. Well, we'll have to get you in here

1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to meet him. And here we are. Yeahast it's just

1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm climbing the ladder to meet Ron. Gotta go through

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<v Speaker 1>Dean for through of everybody. Yeah, um, alrightll I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get extend one more. Thank you too. Well. First

1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of all you three, Mark Easton and Courtney for joining

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<v Speaker 1>me in studio. Um Carmelia Ray Season three of Momberous Matchmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>which premieres later this spring on Mixed TV Seasons one

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<v Speaker 1>and two are available online as well Mixed tv dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Julie Kane who just continues with

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<v Speaker 1>the uncomfortable nous and you know, we appreciate hearing about

1:12:17.600 --> 1:12:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the carnival rides these boyfriends that she has. It's an

1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:23.519
<v Speaker 1>inspiration though. At the end of the day, you know,

1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it gives us hope to cling onto that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if God forbids you lose someone as important as

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<v Speaker 1>your husband of forty five years, you're still able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get back on the horse and um maintain

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<v Speaker 1>a certain level of happiness, which she she seems to have.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, keep the emails coming. I suck a dating

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<v Speaker 1>at iHeart media dot com. Uh and email I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>will hopefully be changing pretty soon. That'd be yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>would have changed to you? Let's be dating with Dina

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<v Speaker 1>I heard media dot com. I said, I personally think

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<v Speaker 1>would just be Dean and I Heart media dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if that's why don't we change

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<v Speaker 1>it right now to Dean at iHeart media dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do that Eastern or is that hard? I

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<v Speaker 1>have to make sure there's not another Dean Heart Media

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<v Speaker 1>dot com because I try to get easton that I

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<v Speaker 1>hurt Media dot Com and there's already one you can

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<v Speaker 1>do me. That's what East one two is what I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up. Yeah, that makes sense. Um. Anyways, I figure

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<v Speaker 1>if we do it now that way, it will make

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<v Speaker 1>the change later on easier because we'll already have the

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<v Speaker 1>email address kind of ingrained in the culture of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we decided on a name though we haven't. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's just Dina, I hurt Media dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And then if no, matter what we change

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<v Speaker 1>the name to, it can just remain Dean and I

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<v Speaker 1>Hurt Media dot Com And that will be fun for

1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:25.679
<v Speaker 1>for listeners. They can just email Dean, did I hurt Media?

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<v Speaker 1>And as long as it keeps bouncing back you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this hasn't worked yet, and then if it doesn't success,

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<v Speaker 1>I might just buy that dummy. Um. Next week we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking Bachelor Winter Games. I'm joined in studio by

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<v Speaker 1>some of my lovely co stars, Leslie Kevin and the

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Courtney again two weeks in a row. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys are are excited about that. I'm

1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:48.360
<v Speaker 1>sure you are, because um looking forward to seeing Leslie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, Oh great that I together. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just like you two together. You haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really seen us together, no, but I just on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, and us weekly I like it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what the children are gonna look like? It looks good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week we're gonna be two episodes into bachel

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<v Speaker 1>Winter Games. I'm excited for I have snuck. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>somehow was able to sneak my way into watching episode one,

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<v Speaker 1>which airs tonight, and it's hilarious and I've only heard

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<v Speaker 1>that it gets better and I've heard so. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Chris Harrison's pro am golfer room up in Pebble

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<v Speaker 1>Beach this weekend, um, and we were like watching and

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<v Speaker 1>play a couple of holes of me Ben. We're walking

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<v Speaker 1>along with him and hang out with one of his

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<v Speaker 1>friends that golfl with him up in like west Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember where it was, um, but his friend

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that Chris never talks about the Bachelor, like

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they're hanging out his friends playing golf whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Chris is like weirdly excited about Bachelor Winter Games.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's like talking about how it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>most fun he's ever had on the show, and how

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<v Speaker 1>um the show is, in his eyes, the most entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>that he's produced so far. And so it's weird to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from a friend that he's actually talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>show that he's worked on. And I know he's done

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<v Speaker 1>what twenty two seasons Batchel, thirteen seasons Batcherette, So he

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<v Speaker 1>probably gets tired of talking about it. Um and Winter

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<v Speaker 1>Games kind of has like the the allure of the

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<v Speaker 1>new show and all that kind of stuff. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to here how excited the executive producers of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like a great idea for a show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it. It's sure we all wish it

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<v Speaker 1>was longer, even like four episodes is not enough anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Thatchler Winter Games. Tune in tonight at eight pm on ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll watch the premiere. It'll arrogant on Thursday this week

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<v Speaker 1>eight p m. Same time, and then next week we

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<v Speaker 1>have Tuesday Thursday, and then I believe we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>one hour live finale on Thursday. Be sure to tune in.

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<v Speaker 1>We're filming it on Friday this week. Oh, I'm traveling

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<v Speaker 1>to Honduras with Ben Higgins, UM, a cast member from

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<v Speaker 1>Better Winter Games who cannot be named right now. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of some of my little female female he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to give that. Several others. We're going with

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<v Speaker 1>the Humanity of Hope organization that Ben's worked with in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. And one of my great friends actually who's

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<v Speaker 1>getting married in May of this year, who helps put

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<v Speaker 1>it all on too. She's she's coming out with us,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna be out in Hunduras for about thirteen days. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, thanks again for two ding uh tuning in.

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