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Speaker 1: And immigration is one of the most important issues for

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Speaker 1: voters in the upcoming presidential election, and San Antonio, Texas

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Speaker 1: is at the forefront of the debate, often acting as

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Speaker 1: a migration hub where authorities send people en route to

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Speaker 1: their final destination. Joining us now for more on that

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Speaker 1: from the Bloomberg City Lab Summit in Mexico City is

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Speaker 1: the Mayor of San Antonio, Ron Nuremberg. Mister Mayor, great

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Speaker 1: to have some time with you. I was looking at

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Speaker 1: some charts about the flow of migrants over the Southwest

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Speaker 1: border from the CBP, and indeed we've seen a spike

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Speaker 1: to the highest levels of immigration across that area in

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Speaker 1: American history, at least in the history of the United

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Speaker 1: States of America. How have you dealt with that in

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Speaker 1: San Antonio? Have the people of San Antonio dealt with

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Speaker 1: that influx of immigration?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Well, good morning, and thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: I think the first thing I would say is contextualize this.

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Speaker 3: This is not unique to the US southern border. This

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Speaker 3: is happening all across the world. More displaced people in

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Speaker 3: this period of time one hundred and fourteen million people worldwide,

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Speaker 3: more since World War Two. So what's happening in the

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Speaker 3: southern border is not unique. What is unique, however, is

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Speaker 3: the political and legislative paralysis within our political system in

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Speaker 3: the United States. How we have handled that at the

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Speaker 3: local level, since we don't deal with solutions to immigration policy,

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Speaker 3: is that we've had cooperation from the Biden and Harris

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Speaker 2: That we can do two things.

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Speaker 3: We can make sure that we continue to uphold our

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Speaker 3: values as a nation, but we also deal with safety

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Speaker 3: and safety and resources in a way that allows people

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Speaker 3: to move on to their next destination while protecting public safety.

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Speaker 3: It has been a successful effort, and since that period

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Speaker 3: of time when President Biden issued his executive orders, we've

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Speaker 3: seen about a ninety percent decrease in traffic through our

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Speaker 3: Migrant Resource Center. So it works when Congress puts solutions together.

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Speaker 3: If they yield to the politics of Donald Trump and

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Speaker 3: we're left with no solutions, it's incumbent upon presidential leadership,

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Speaker 3: and that's exactly what we've seen with President Biden.

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Speaker 1: Mister Mayer, I imagine you have to uphold the law,

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Speaker 1: do you then when you find someone in this country illegally,

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Speaker 1: work with the government to send that person back to

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Speaker 1: his or her home country, or do you move that

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Speaker 1: person along in the system somehow, how do you sort

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Speaker 1: of stop the breaking of the law in that situation.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: We cooperate with local law enforcement with federal authorities, and

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Speaker 3: so folks who are in our city have been vetted

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Speaker 3: and have been given asylum. Hearing dates some cases years

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Speaker 3: from now, which is part of the problem when we

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Speaker 3: don't have legislative solutions that were clearly laid out, and

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Speaker 3: a bipart is in border bill that Trump unilaterally killed

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Speaker 3: by calling his favorite senators.

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Speaker 2: So there are solutions to this at the local level.

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Speaker 3: However, we work with federal authorities to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we have the resources to treat people with compassion, but

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Speaker 3: also protect public safety and maintain public order.

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Speaker 4: And I want to bring the labor market into this conversation.

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Speaker 4: We know, of course, at a federal level that it's

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Speaker 4: still very strong. But there is an interesting story from

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Speaker 4: Texas Monthly recently which actually found that Texas has eighty

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Speaker 4: workers for every hundred open jobs, and that construction jobs

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Speaker 4: in particular have a high degree of job openings right now.

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Speaker 4: And I'm curious, I mean, how has immigration impacted that.

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Speaker 4: Have you been able to fill some of those job

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Speaker 4: openings with migrants.

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Speaker 3: Well, San Antonio is a international city. We are a

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Speaker 3: city that has been multicultural and has roughly a fifteen

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Speaker 3: high skill positions and all kinds of markets. So, of course,

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Speaker 3: immigrants are part of our construction workforce as well, same

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Speaker 3: as residents of San Antonio. And we know in this

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Speaker 3: period of time when there's an extensive amount of capital investment,

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Speaker 3: a lot of construction going on, there is a need

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Speaker 3: for construction workers, there is need for manufacturing workers. And

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Speaker 3: we put a lot of our own resources, including resources

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Speaker 3: from Vice President Harrison, President Biden, to help us continue

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm curious, I mean, how do you sort of

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Speaker 4: building on what Matt was asking about following the law here,

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Speaker 4: how do you ensure that there's going to be fair wages,

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Speaker 4: safe working conditions when workers are both documented and undocumented.

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Speaker 3: Well, every single job is obviously regulated, and unfortunately we

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Speaker 3: can't change Texas law. Unfortunately hasn't changed with regard to

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Speaker 3: minimum wage in twenty some odd years. But you know,

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Speaker 3: we make sure that we work with all industries to

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Speaker 3: you know they're properly working with all of the laws

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Speaker 3: and regulations in the area.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about housing prices. I was looking

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Speaker 1: at the FREDDIEMAC House price index for San Antonio, and indeed,

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Speaker 1: you see a spike in home prices right as soon

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Speaker 1: as you see a spike in immigration at the start

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Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. The two seem very correlated. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing it keeping housing affordable for your residence?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to slip into that kind of

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Speaker 3: correlation equals causation. The idea that migration has called the

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Speaker 3: cause the spike and housing price is absolutely absurd. What

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Speaker 3: we've seen is a tightening of the supply chains. We've

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Speaker 3: seen a tightening of the labor markets. This is worldwide phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: But we also know that housing prices are going up

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Speaker 3: because people are coming to our city from California, from Illinois,

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Speaker 3: from Texas itself. We're a great city to live in

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Speaker 3: and that's made us very desirable. We've had a strategic

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Speaker 3: housing implementation plan in place that we've been implementing to

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Speaker 3: make sure that the housing market is stable and it's healthy.

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Speaker 3: Of course, housing costs have gone up roughly twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent over the last four or five years, but relative

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Speaker 3: to some of our peer cities, we're doing a good

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Speaker 3: the demand in housing, and that comes in all forms

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Speaker 3: and types. We know we need more rental housing for

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Speaker 3: young professionals and students, but we also need home ownership

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Speaker 3: options for people who are moving into their professional prime

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Speaker 3: careers and also retiring in our city. But we have

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Speaker 3: a good, healthy housing market in San Antonio. Of course,

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Speaker 3: we're in the midst of a housing crisis worldwide. We're

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Speaker 3: doing what we can to make sure it continues to

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Speaker 1: All right, mister Mayor, thanks very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciated. Mayor of San Antonio, Ron Nuremberg.

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Speaker 2: There