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Speaker 1: I'm your host James Deebo Harrison, and I'm here with

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Speaker 2: You're calling Joe on Oh Lord for sure.

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Speaker 1: Hey listen, make sure you subscribe and like download the

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Debo, but you need to get this together.

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Speaker 3: If I'm getting older in age and I'm gonna accept

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Speaker 3: whatever is over there than unk because I'm taking I'm thirty,

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Speaker 3: keep on Uncle Joe starting off the show with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know your kids about to have kids.

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Speaker 3: Just notice I'm accepting you. Gotta accept George too, man,

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Speaker 3: you gotta accept George.

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Speaker 1: You been real, you been you, man, You've been real

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Speaker 1: disrespectful over there. You know on status go from like

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Speaker 1: thirty to seventy five.

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Speaker 2: You just made that up. I'm just telling you that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 1: Look at you at g GPT, you telling you that

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Speaker 3: The groups, there's different groups that goes. The max between

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Speaker 3: thirty year age gaps. That's just that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's different.

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Speaker 1: Like because see I'm the youngest. I'm the youngest of fourteen.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of kids.

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Speaker 1: to accept it. You know what I'm saying. I'm still

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Speaker 2: You know you just the old, this old debo. You

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Speaker 1: I took it away because it was cheaper to do

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Speaker 2: What I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: It talks about this, this would this would have boils

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Speaker 2: Right now, right now, right now, right now, right.

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Speaker 3: Geno Smith is twenty nine. Okay, it's two a tongue

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Speaker 2: Hey man, you calling names? Bro just called team Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Now I need to give names because these are the

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Speaker 2: They're basically saying this, Why you just saying one name

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Speaker 3: It because I'm just trying to say, do you who

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven is Jacoby Brissett, Arizona Cardinals. Twenty six Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, until we find out what Will Howard

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Speaker 1: can do. We slightly cook because my confidence in Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph is it ain't.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna even lie. It ain't even there, dude.

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Speaker 1: And you know what we in this because we waiting

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Speaker 1: on Aaron Roger Stealers just going offered a man something

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Speaker 2: Off the bottom of this list.

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Speaker 3: The reason why we at the bottom of the list

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Speaker 3: is because we're unproven. They ain't seeing what Will could

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Speaker 1: That and that's why I can't argue it, because we

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Speaker 3: So I think with when they said cam Ward, they

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at our quarterback position with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: What do I call it us? When we call it?

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Speaker 2: When I talk about the Browns debo? What did I say?

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Speaker 3: Will hasn't played anything, So how you're gonna put him

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Speaker 2: I'm Will Howard, Pittsburgh Stilling.

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Speaker 1: That's how I look at myself, and so I'm not

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Speaker 1: But at some point, man, I'm just a player on

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Speaker 1: As much as I can sit here and be pissed

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Speaker 1: it happened the way it was meant to happen. But

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Speaker 1: now all I can control is what is going what's

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Speaker 1: going going forward? What's going forward? Yeah, yes, you like that,

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Speaker 3: I love the mindset. I love the statement. Control what

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Speaker 3: do his best, And I saying putting itself in the

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Speaker 2: So I'm listening to him.

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Speaker 3: He knows he was drafted sixth round, he was back

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Speaker 3: Just not trying to be cocky. When I get the opportunity,

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Speaker 3: all that's all you can do, Will is it doesn't

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Speaker 2: You're all on the same team.

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Speaker 3: Now, first round pick, second round pick, third round pick.

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Speaker 3: Once you get on the squad, we all here. Now,

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Speaker 2: And that's not trying to do anybody else's job.

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Speaker 3: That's coming in here knowing what exactly what I have

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Speaker 2: So I love what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: He's speaking exactly what he needs to be saying, not

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Speaker 3: I'm a member of the squad. I know I play quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to go ball out. I love what he's saying,

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Speaker 3: because that's what you will want your guy to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what I'm saying, they judging my man

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Speaker 2: Man, he was a little inaccurate. You know, he had

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Speaker 4: Pocket was clean, he was considered a starting caliber quarterback. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Now. With that being said, the first goal NFL football

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Speaker 2: He locked in that's what he needs to be.

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Speaker 1: So you know he's carrying a little bit of chip

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I was listen.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wonder any other way because I used to

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Speaker 2: I was too short for what I was too slow for.

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Speaker 2: That motivated me to prove him wrong. Do.

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Speaker 1: I used to love when it stills with draft a linebacker, dude,

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Speaker 1: It was in the first round the seventh round, Bruh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't care. I'm like, oh, okay, so you're trying

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Speaker 1: I'm getting old motivation activated.

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Speaker 1: I could probably sit there and tell you the linebackers

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Speaker 1: they drafted from two thousand and seven to twelve thirteen,

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Speaker 1: I know they got Jason Worlds and another dude, Gipson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what it was they got. Next year

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Speaker 1: they backed that up with Chris Carter.

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Speaker 2: They got Budd and I want to say it was

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Speaker 1: And then they went, uh they backed that up too

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Speaker 2: Travis Foeney. Matter of fact, U see la.

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Speaker 1: U see la. Yeah, and then TJ is seventeen, Like shoot, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I need, man, I need I need

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Speaker 1: to hear what somebody say I can't do because I'm

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that, bro. Yeah, he's say

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in the statement was this. When I asked

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Speaker 2: Now they talking about the twenty twenty six draft.

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Speaker 1: But if you go ahead and you look at the article, dude,

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Speaker 2: Okay. He's saying he's.

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Speaker 1: Hoping the quarterback is there at the right time for us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's not saying he's going to go in here and

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows he needs a quarterback. He knows he needs

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Speaker 1: And like, when it comes down to it, Ty Simpson

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Speaker 1: and I'm not taking him at the first maybe what

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Speaker 1: is we fifty three? I don't know about taking him there,

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Speaker 1: you know, And it's nothing more than just looking at

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard decision for me because it's all dependent

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Speaker 2: Like we need oline, it's other things that are more need.

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Speaker 1: But all this, all this can actually be easily changed

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Speaker 1: if we go ahead and just say, hey, Roger's hand

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Speaker 2: We ain't even got to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're worried about that next year, like say hey Steelers,

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Speaker 1: to something else. But give him something, give him something,

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Speaker 1: Like what do you think, Joe.

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Speaker 3: I think that he's saying it like he' I don't

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Speaker 3: think he understands the facts that, like this article wrote,

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Speaker 3: Will Howard is unproven and what we've seen with Mason Rudolph,

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Speaker 3: we don't think that he's gonna be able to take

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Speaker 3: us to the Promised Land. So these are just facts.

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Speaker 3: Everybody sees what's going on. Everybody knows what's going on.

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Speaker 3: So with Will Howard, I think he believes in Will,

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Speaker 3: but he knows at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: He's unproven.

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Speaker 3: So if there's a quarterback that we can find that

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Speaker 3: don't like him at whatever, twenty something, maybe fifty three,

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Speaker 3: maybe if he's some he probably won't go that far down.

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Speaker 3: But he's saying, if somehow a quarterback falls to where

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Speaker 3: we think that he could be good enough that we

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I tell you what if

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Speaker 3: If he does some if it happens like what happened

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Speaker 3: pick him. You know what I'm saying, Like I feel

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Speaker 3: you with the offensive line, if there's really really good

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Speaker 3: let's do it. If you think though, that we do

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Speaker 3: need Ty Simpson in that locker room to be able

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Speaker 3: to if Will Howard doesn't go, we know we have

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Speaker 3: a Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: If you need another.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback, then if you think that he's the guy, then

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Speaker 3: take them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because at the end.

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Speaker 1: Of the day, Aaron something, please say, let's get out

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, because no one at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, if Will Howard isn't the guy, you

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Speaker 3: can still have the chance to get Ty Simpson in there,

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Speaker 3: get some playtime. But if you don't think these quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: are good enough at all, let's see what we can

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Speaker 3: do with Will Howard. We're building up our team anyway,

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Speaker 3: and see whatever happens next year. We know we need

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, Go get one. You can give up our

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Speaker 3: make sure we can get up to pick whoever we need,

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Speaker 3: because then we don't need all the extra picks. We

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Speaker 3: don't need all the extra stuff. We got a team,

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Speaker 3: we need a quarterback. Go get them.

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Speaker 2: Go do what we got to do to get that

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Speaker 3: So I hear what he's saying. I don't think he

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Speaker 3: you don't We don't know. So when you're putting Will

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Speaker 3: These dudes have NFL snaps. They've looked good at certain times.

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to put Will Howard and on Mason

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Speaker 1: You know who at number three? What instance not of bangos?

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Speaker 1: You know how far they would fall once? Oh Joey,

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Speaker 1: get on on board, come on over here with.

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Speaker 2: That black Dade. That's all. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, we we Hey, we we switching. They you

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Speaker 1: know you got flat over. Hey we switching, baby, we switching.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're coming. We're coming up. We're coming up.

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Speaker 1: Then we're coming. Like he said, he wanted to go younger.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think we were looking.

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Speaker 3: At I'm looking at the chat they talking about get

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Speaker 3: Flacco in there.

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Speaker 2: No, that's just never O O G. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Rogers, of.

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Speaker 3: Course, but is gonna be peanuty buddies compared to that

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Speaker 3: thirty You talking about giving a Hey, Rod, you ain't.

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Speaker 2: Got no choice.

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Speaker 1: Flacco getting paid as a backup, bro, That's why that's doable.

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Speaker 1: If he came in here, they've got to pay more

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Speaker 1: if you're going to get him as a you know, veteran, like,

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Speaker 1: give him a chance.

438
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Speaker 2: Possibly. I'm not. Look, I'm not in that, you know,

439
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: off season training. I'm not.

440
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm not just seeing it in there. I'm not interested.

441
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: I just I'm not interested.

442
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: You man, you ain't. You ain't You're interested. Man, I'm

443
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: interested in Will Howard.

444
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm interested in Howard too, I am.

445
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: You know, the.

446
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Feelings I started, I started feeling a certain way being thirty.

447
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: Stuff, and I'm just addressing with the coach Mike McCarthy

448
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: was talking about the quarterback.

449
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: No, we're talking about tis ups. If we fall to

450
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Speaker 2: our spot. Cool. But I'm rocking with Will. Yes, That's

451
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: what I'm rocking with. Yeah.

452
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I didn't say, I don't. Yeah,

453
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm rocking with Will. I'd rather rock with Will and

454
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: just keep it going and say, you know what, this

455
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do.

456
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing.

457
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: And if somebody else is there that we feel like

458
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: can come in and add to the team, and we'll

459
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: add them in and just say, hey, let's roll with Will.

460
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Speaker 1: We go see what we get. If it works, it works.

461
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it doesn't, we pick up what we

462
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: need next year or figure it out through the process

463
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: of you know, this year because Aaron ain't signed nothing today.

464
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: Put some in front of it.

465
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Speaker 3: If we want to get the motion going, we got

466
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: to just offer them something so we can know, yeah,

467
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: we're going to be sitting here.

468
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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, our new O c Ryan Andelcho.

469
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Speaker 1: He has some high praise from his former head coach

470
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. O'Connell said, Ange has a really good understanding

471
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Speaker 1: of the run game and how to marry it together,

472
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: how to marry the play action, pass and keeping and

473
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: the keeper game to base. Then keep her game to

474
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: your base way of running the football. He's been vital

475
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: for me in the red zone over our four years together.

476
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: So when you look at rather, it's situational football, early

477
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: down success and how you tie it all together. He

478
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: is so prepared for this opportunity and it's long over.

479
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: Wo That's what I love to hear, d Bunky. He

480
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: sounds like listen, he listens to the Debo and Joe show.

481
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: That's that's all listen.

482
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Speaker 2: He had the man for four years. I'm give him

483
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Speaker 2: a thousand.

484
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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying when I hear somebody that speaking

485
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: my same language, that's speaking the same thing that we

486
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: try to say about the play action, about the run game,

487
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: about marrying it together, about situational football, about winning it

488
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: early down success.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's all we talk about.

490
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: It sounds so simple, and it sounds like, oh no

491
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: when you're watching the game, like, why aren't they No,

492
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: you don't understand. You have to get a rhythm going

493
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: marrying the run game, getting it started early early down success,

494
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: which starts second to short. You get to those third

495
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: and shorts, those manageable situations where they don't know if

496
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: you're gonna run or you're gonna pass. They can't just

497
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: pin their ears back and can just come after you. You're

498
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: dictating pace. So when you're running the ball down someone's throat,

499
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: there's nothing they can do but start putting more people

500
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Speaker 3: in the box and trying to stop you. And if

501
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: they can, then you continue to do it, continue to

502
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: do it. And that's when you play action them and

503
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: they're running down like we're going to stop the run,

504
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: and the ball is going over top of their heads.

505
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: So when he's talking about marrying it winning on early

506
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: possessions play action.

507
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my goodness, thank you.

508
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: It sounds very simple, but this is exactly what I

509
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: wanted to hear coming from from coming from Kevin O'Connell

510
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: to OC. That's speaking on his man. That's just going

511
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: out on another opportunity. He doesn't have to speak this

512
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: highly or just say about this knowledge of what he knows,

513
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: but him saying it is music.

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: To my ears, no question. Brother.

515
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: Look here, he was the passing game coordinator twenty twenty two,

516
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five. Okay, he stayed in the top six.

517
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: He had well except for one year, and that was

518
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Speaker 1: twenty five. In the year that was outside of the

519
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: top six, but he was six five six and then

520
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: he was outside of that. But that's kind of understandable

521
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: considering the quarterback situation last year over here. So I

522
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: think he's just you know, putting it out there to

523
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and you know, saying, you know, I heard

524
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Speaker 1: you say.

525
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna be calling the plays.

526
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: So O'Connor is just saying, hey, look, you know stole

527
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: this man away from okay, so don't just give him

528
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: the title and name. He can do the job, but

529
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: let him try and do it. He is capable of

530
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: doing it. He has done it over here with me,

531
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: you know. And he's just letting him know, you have

532
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 1: someone there that can help if you're willing to take it.

533
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: And I believe McCarthy is willing to do that because

534
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: why else would he have hired him as his own

535
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Speaker 1: c Yeah, you know, I love it.

536
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Speaker 3: And then, like you said, too, McCarthy, I hope, like

537
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: you said, hiring people. I know he wants to call

538
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: the offensive plays, but hiring knowing you're not the smartest

539
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: man in the room and being able to accept stuff

540
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: to somebody else says, you know what I'm saying, it's

541
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: going to be like a team effort. You know what

542
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You're listening to him, You're not. You don't

543
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: have to go with everything he says. But knowing I

544
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: know this man, he knows what he's talking about, you

545
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And being able to have like

546
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: collaborate instead of just being like no, no, no, this

547
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: the way it's going to be. So knowing that being

548
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: able to use your coaches.

549
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes, getting coaches that have the you know, the credentials,

550
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the pedigree they they've showed that they could do it,

551
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: and like you said, not wanting to be the smartest

552
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: person in the room, and being able to be like yo,

553
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: it's other ways better than mine, you know, and having

554
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: a collaboration and accepting and be willingly you know, looking

555
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: to make things better and help and input from your staff,

556
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's what we have here.

557
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: But the Browns jim Hasling. He walked back his comments

558
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: on the Shan Watson from last year, expressing optimism about

559
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: his future. He says, it's not far. It's not for

560
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: lack of effort, Okay. I mean, I don't think anybody

561
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: in the organization would question this effort, his toughness, everything

562
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: he puts into the job. The Sean has a great

563
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: chance to fresh start with an offensive minded coach who

564
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: has in the past been able to work with all

565
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: kinds of different quarterbacks and make them successful. So the

566
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Sean has a great chance to do that. Now, Joe,

567
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: listen here, let me tell you something. Joe, let me

568
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: tell you something.

569
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

570
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Here the Browns go double talking again, and this time

571
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: it's your owner, Jimmy has Okay, you know what I understand. Now,

572
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: why your boy Andrew Barry is you know, I see

573
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: where he's getting the from. You know, like this is

574
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: this might be a cleanland thing, you know what I'm saying,

575
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: Like he's getting you know, when you get there, I

576
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: guess it kind of getting grained into you something like that.

577
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's the only thing I can think of, Joe,

578
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Like why why why to change you know, why to

579
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: change your heart? By by by? You know, mister HASLM

580
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't, I don't know. Maybe hold up,

581
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because yeah, your GM, mister Barry over there,

582
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: he said, all of his quarterbacks would be expected to

583
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job or have a chance to

584
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: to compete for the starting job.

585
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: They're actually trying.

586
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: To maybe show a united front, a direction, maybe a

587
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: purposeful position in here. I know, I know, Joe, that

588
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: would be like catastrophic in Cleveland, just because you know,

589
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: that's the total opposite of the way that you know

590
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: y'all work over there.

591
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: But Joe, do you tell me what you think I

592
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: mean that I don't know.

593
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 3: You tell me, if you give somebody two hundred and

594
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: fifty dollars, you're gonna believe it. But my man, Jimmy has,

595
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: he's gonna believe in him until the wills fall off.

596
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: Well, he wasn't saying that just previously. What do what

597
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: do he say? Previously? What did he say?

598
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: Well, he was kind of down on them, okay, but

599
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: now he's just seeing that he's back, he's been working,

600
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: he's been rehabbing, you know, so, I mean that's what

601
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: he's saying.

602
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't I don't agree. But if you if I'd

603
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: paid him two.

604
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty and at first, you would have thought,

605
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, he's not going to be

606
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: able to come back, it would have looked like a.

607
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Big swing in a miss.

608
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: Now he's been rehabbing, he's getting back right, he's looking healthy.

609
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: And this is from the owner's perspective. Well, I mean,

610
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: when you say he's a swing and a miss.

611
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: He's swinging the miss two hundred and fifty million dollars

612
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: that you give to a quarterback, fully guaranteed swing miss.

613
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Speaker 2: How how you go come back? Just go off that?

614
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: What'd you say? Hey?

615
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: Cause he got I mean, I don't know he did it.

616
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: I didn't do it. I'm just trying to talk for

617
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: what what what looked like happened I wouldn't have did it.

618
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't the swinging the miss, he could still the

619
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: reason why he's saying it because say he comes out

620
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: and balls out this year, balls out, brings the Browns

621
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. He's saying, it could still not be

622
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: all bad. I don't think it's gonna happen. He's just

623
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: speaking best case scenario. He's the owner of the team.

624
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: He'd the one that gave him the bag. He's the

625
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: one that said, oh, that could have been a swing

626
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: in the miss when he wasn't playing, when he was

627
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: getting hurt. Now he's looking like he's rehabbing, he's doing everything.

628
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: He can to get back.

629
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: So from Jimmy has on perspective, he's saying, if he

630
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: goes out there, new coach, you know what I'm saying.

631
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: He's been training, he's been rehabbing, he looks good. If

632
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: he ends up going out there in balling, it could

633
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: be a completely different story than him getting the whole

634
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: two hundred already and not really performing at all.

635
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: So I think that's what he was saying. I don't I.

636
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: Think since DeShawn Washson, when he was the real like

637
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: not not the real DeShawn Watson, but he was healthy

638
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: playing with Houston. That was that was six seven years ago.

639
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: And now the big thing that made DeShawn he could

640
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: run and he could pass. He was dual threat. He

641
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: could use his legs and he could throw the ball.

642
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: Once you start losing that speed, that agila, he started

643
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: to just become kind of a one one trick is

644
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: gonna be more your pocket passing. You're gonna have to

645
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: be able to stand in the pocket. You're gonna have

646
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: to be more of Tom Brady. Tom Brady could never run.

647
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: He was always gonna be efficient because his presence, his

648
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: knowledge and this ball placement. Once you get less athletic

649
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: when you are a running quarterback, it starts to make

650
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: you have to just depend on that other part of

651
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: your game, not the escapability, but the accuracy part. So

652
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Deshaun like loving to death. But for me,

653
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's still gonna be having those

654
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: same type of twitchiness, that same type of movement like

655
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: RG three. Remember he had his knee and he's never

656
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: wasn't able to just move the same way. Deshaun Watson.

657
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: This is he's not getting any younger. This is a

658
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: long time in the league now. So just those injuries,

659
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: him not being able to be as mobile, I don't

660
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: know if he's gonna be as be as successful as

661
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: we saw the Deshaun Watson that was worth every penny

662
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: of the two fifty. So right now with me, I'm

663
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: still letting your door go there. He was the starting quarterback.

664
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: I understand competing. You're gonna say that, but you're gonna

665
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: have to Deshaun's about the sh It's something to take

666
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: the job from Shador. We give him some act, you

667
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: give him some more weapons, some receivers, some line, give

668
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: him a chance, and he doesn't look good. You put

669
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Deshaun in there after game seven eight if sure she's

670
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: not looking good, and she does not succeeding. He's out

671
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: there throwing picks and just doing the same things. He

672
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: doesn't look like he's making growth and breeding coverages and

673
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: not just retreating in the in the pocket.

674
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He looks like he's poised,

675
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: you know. And it's not his bad.

676
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: We're scoring averaging twenty four to twenty five points a game.

677
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: He's throwing two seventy two touchdowns. You know what I'm saying. No,

678
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: a couple maybe, like say, after eight games, we got

679
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: twelve touchdowns, four or five picks, Okay, boom, we're working,

680
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: we're figuring it out. It's not your bad that we're losing,

681
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: but we can are people performing around you. How's the

682
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: defense plan, how's a special teams playing? It just don't

683
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: need it to be strictly on him. So for me,

684
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: I'm going with Shador Young, give him weapons, give him

685
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: a chance for real to really go with Todd Monkin.

686
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: If it doesn't work out, we still have DeShawn there

687
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: to so, like, like Jimmy said, not completely fall off

688
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: and swing in the miss on the.

689
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty.

690
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: So we still got those two quarterbacks there see what's happening,

691
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: and then if it doesn't, we do got to go

692
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: get a quarterback again. But we've been in that situation

693
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: a thousand times before. But right now we got Shador,

694
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: which I like, we have Deshaun at a forty three

695
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: million dollar deal that he's like working out. He's trying

696
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: to get back and see what he can do. So

697
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: those two quarterbacks can get us through the season in

698
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: my opinion. So that's that's how I'm rocking. Okay, how

699
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: do you feel about that? How do you feel about that?

700
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: Give me something like I think, do you think that's

701
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: I think this is.

702
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Going to sound crazy, because it's just crazy, But I

703
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: think they're trying to show a united front here, actual direction,

704
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, purpose of what it is they want to accomplish,

705
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: and they're trying to put it out there, and the

706
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: game is putting it out there.

707
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: He's putting it out there.

708
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: And you know, to hear that in Cleveland, you know,

709
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, common sense ain't common, and it damn show

710
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: ain't common in Cleveland, you know, So to hear that

711
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and think that, you know, they may actually be trying

712
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: to get something together.

713
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of confusing. You see, what do you what

714
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: are you thinking? What are you thinking? Do you think?

715
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: Do you why do you think he made the complete

716
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 3: one eighty? Do you think it's because what I said?

717
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm thinking this right here, brother, I'm thinking

718
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: maybe you know, hes trying to see if he can't

719
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: dump off your boy, the son to somebody, see if

720
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: he can you know, put it out here looking good.

721
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: He can't. He can be he can be what it

722
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: was that we thought he was going to be. You know, Maye.

723
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: They want to press some of that. You know that

724
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: they guarantee off on somebody else. It's only a year left,

725
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know, Joe, I don't know, But

726
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean the optimistic thing for you in the Cleveland

727
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Browns is they done got together.

728
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: They say, you know what, man, we go do this

729
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: the right way.

730
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: We go, show united front in the process and direction

731
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: in which we're going, and we're gonna stick to it.

732
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: You go see it.

733
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm said, we all go see. But it's Cleveland. They

734
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: probably stumped up like they stumbled on this ship. It

735
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: was accident.

736
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna mess around and keep on getting this long.

737
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: We just need to keep on not doing doing the

738
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: obvious thing, which is get talent in the spots that

739
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: we don't have it wide receiver, and continue to get

740
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: our offensive line right when we have these skilled positions

741
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: running back, quarterback. I like our quarterback, we like our

742
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: tight end. Defense already been doing good bringing the pieces in.

743
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: Just don't start doing fantas you tight end right is

744
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: I got both, We got juggins, and we got my

745
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: man foux fo at tight end who is going to

746
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: be pro bo? Yes, sir, so both of them rookies

747
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: locked in.

748
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I like him. I didn't like him

749
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: when we played there.

750
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah you know he cost met but yeah as a

751
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: as a player, yeah yeah, yeah, I like him.

752
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: Your boys should Door.

753
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: No, he's hey, he's switching from the twelve to the two.

754
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: That he is the Door will be wearing number two

755
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, the number he wore throughout his

756
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: college at his career at Jackson State and Colorado, he

757
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: couldn't wear it too, I guess last season because a

758
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: veteran ride receiver Carter already had, forcing him to take

759
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: number twelve.

760
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: Carter is no longer on the team. Yo, look here, man,

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: what do you think is the reason he's switching it number?

762
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Because, bro, he loves number two, number two. What's his number?

763
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: He always rocked number two. He has a connection with

764
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: number two. You know, look good, feel good, play good.

765
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: He always wore that's his jersey coming in the vet

766
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: had it and you know how that goes. But he

767
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: tried to get him to pay for it. Shador was

768
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: a fifth round pick. Money looking funny a little bit.

769
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: He was like, no, that's what I'm not gonna do.

770
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: Money was looking funny. He did.

771
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: He did money, wasn't looking funny. He did debo. He

772
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: just went cheap. He just didn't want to pay for it.

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: That's what he did. He got the money, he had

774
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: the money, but he was chilling. So he's like, you

775
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: know what, I'm not gonna pay for that. I'm gonna

776
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: rock this twelve. See what's up. I'm gonna just make it.

777
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's twenty one backwards. That's

778
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: my dad's number. You know what I'm saying. Pop still

779
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: could be good. Then my man gets let go, he's

780
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: no longer on the team. Two becomes available. It's the

781
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: number that I want. Very very similar. When I was

782
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: in the Steelers, I wanted twenty three. Mike Mitchell tried

783
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: to buy it, tried to buy it, kept on raising

784
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: the price. He was like this, no, no, no, I

785
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: got too much attached to it. I'm like, God, damn, Mike.

786
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: So I had to go to rob G and buy

787
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: twenty one off rob G for the low.

788
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

789
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: Rob G looked out so I'm as still as they

790
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 3: weren't playing.

791
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: They looking like, no, Joe, you got what's up?

792
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Rob G was like, man, give me twenty four, so

793
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: I had to pay for twenty one next year. My

794
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: good man Mike Mitchell, love him to death, God the least.

795
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: So then the twenty three was there. Got the twenty

796
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: three for the free. I wanted twenty three the whole time.

797
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: This gives me Chador vibes. He wanted two, didn't want

798
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: to pay for it, went debot on it. Now two

799
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: came available, gets it for the free.

800
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: Ninety nine.

801
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: He's happy, he's in his number. He's ready. He wanted

802
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: it from the beginning, but he wasn't trying to pay,

803
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: and now he paid.

804
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: He got it for free.

805
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Jersey number came open. Now he's gonna be two. I

806
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: feel like for the rest of his career because it's

807
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: just the number that he wanted the whole time.

808
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: No question, Listen, bro I don't think people understand how

809
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: getting that number that you balled in, that you as

810
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: a dog in can make you feel.

811
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: You have a little that's your number, and like you

812
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: wore it your whole life. You know what I'm saying.

813
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: It just makes you feel like when you going to

814
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: your locker and now you're playing in the NFL. You

815
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: got chador saying the number two, Like that's that's your stuff,

816
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Like that's never gonna no matter what, once you retire,

817
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: you got that your door, saying this NFL too. Like

818
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: I wanted to switch my jersey number when it went

819
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: single digits. I wanted to have a number five so bad.

820
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: I was like, man, just give me one more year,

821
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: my thirteen V I could have went single digit. I

822
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: just wanted a five. Hated like I wore Florida. Oh

823
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: would have been lovely.

824
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: Couldn't do it.

825
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 3: So I understand what the numbers. That numbers mean a lot, bro, Yeah,

826
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: brou I totally understand it. Matter of fact, H three,

827
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: number three and number three I will never touch.

828
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 2: Let me get this. That's a fire. That's a fire,

829
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: number single digit three, bru.

830
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Listen, let me tell you why, brou So. I was

831
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: sixteen throughout my high school career, you know what I'm saying.

832
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: So I go, and I switched to number three my

833
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: senior year because it was a new jersey and I

834
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: had dog mine mine at all, number sixteen, okay, sixteen,

835
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: So I go, and I'm like, you know what, I'm

836
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: gona switch to three because it's a brand new jersey.

837
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's in my senior year, all the other stuff.

838
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to be clean

839
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: because mine had war rooms on it. You know what

840
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know what happened, brou.

841
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I got suspended three games my senior year, lost every

842
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: scholarship offer I had except for Kent State. I could

843
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: have went almost anywhere.

844
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

845
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: I had O State, I had notre Dang. I had

846
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: Nebraska bro back when Lawrence Phillips was there. They wanted

847
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: me for running back. Those those teams wanted me for

848
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: running back. It was Michigan and Michigan State. They wanted

849
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: me for linebacker.

850
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: Dude. As soon as I was able to get back

851
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: on the field in college.

852
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: It took me two years, Bro, because I tricked off

853
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: two years in college, so I only got to play

854
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: three years of my time in college and back then,

855
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: as soon as you hit college, your time started, so

856
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: it don't matter if you was on the team or not.

857
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Your clock was running red shirting. So my second year

858
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: on the squad, I was able to get the sixteen.

859
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: Bro I was back. I was Why did the three

860
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: do you? Why did the three feel like you? Guys?

861
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Suspended for the three three that three. That three, Bro,

862
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: that bro, that three was dangerous. Bro that I listen,

863
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I ain't touched that. I think it was well, I

864
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: know it wasn't three, but it was a lot of

865
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: self destructing stuff. You know what I'm saying. Hell the

866
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: two years, bro, Listen to this. This is how bad

867
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: it russ br the two years that I was out. Okay,

868
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: my senior year, I left high school at one hundred

869
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: and ninety five pounds. Oh.

870
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: By time I was to wait to play again.

871
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Bruh, I was two hundred and seventy pounds, right, I

872
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: will never forget eighty pounds. I walked on, Bruh, two

873
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds. Pray I never forget bru The

874
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: first spring practice I ended up walking on. At that time,

875
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: my head coach was actually DMPs. He was the decordinator

876
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: for what like the Patriots, the Ravens, I think it

877
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: was a couple of other teams. Okay, so they got

878
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: us like running around the track, you know, doing you know,

879
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: doing the running, and then you know they bring you

880
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: up at the end, sit you down and you know

881
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: he do his talk.

882
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: This his first year there. So he just came in.

883
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: So the coach that actually brought me in as a prop.

884
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: What's gone. They fired him, He's gone. I never even

885
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: got to do anything with the team.

886
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: Bro.

887
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: So like, so, bruh, I'm sitting there and he's going,

888
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing this, you know, he's doing his lines,

889
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: and he hit something like, you know, if you can't

890
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: do it or you know, or if you don't want

891
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: to do it, basically, you know, if you're lacking the effort,

892
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, we don't need you.

893
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Here, so you know, you know, basically, get your ass

894
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: out of here, bro.

895
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there, Joe, Joe, Joe, I'm walking laps.

896
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm out of shape, I ain't walking left. And I'm

897
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, oh, he's talking to me,

898
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: talking to me, Hey, Joe, Hey Joe, he talking to me.

899
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Fucking you man, Hey, hey, I'm listen, Joe. I'm looking

900
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: at I'm looking I'm looking at the door like this.

901
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to get up right now and

902
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: knock out out this. Bro. I'm like, I am gone, bruh.

903
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: And as I'm sitting there, the thought that go through

904
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, m hm, you know what. Yeah,

905
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 1: he talked to me, to me, he's saying, he's saying

906
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: I can't do it. He's saying, I ain't even got

907
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: the wind. You ain't got the wind. I need that negative,

908
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: I need that negative motivation. That kicked in, Bro. As

909
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: soon as that kicked in, I'm like, yeah, I'm staying here.

910
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I'll show you motherfuckers no wrong, bruh. And the crazy

911
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: thing is the relationship I have with Coach PEG's right now.

912
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy from there on even today. Like I

913
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: recently just talked to him probably last week, week before last,

914
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: like and dude.

915
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, we're gonna have to get him on here.

916
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: He could tell you, dude, like how terrible I was, Dude,

917
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Like it was embarrassing.

918
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: Bro. That shape that out.

919
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: Bro, it took me a good It took me a

920
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: good year and a half there in there, two years

921
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: to get back.

922
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: By the time I got back, I was I was

923
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: two thirty six and a half percent. See, he had you.

924
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna quit on yourself, Debo, That's what you

925
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do. Bro. I'm sitting there and I'm looking bro,

926
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh god, he talking to me. I'm

927
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'm about to leave. Ain't about to be

928
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: just talking to me straight up. Bro. But you was

929
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: out there.

930
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: You was out there walking laps though you so you

931
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: knew he was talking to you, right.

932
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't run bro after one lap. Bro, My back

933
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: was locked up so tight. I was out there like

934
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: I was eight months pregnant. Hold hold my back like this, Bro,

935
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: trying to get a rock track. Yeah, it's a cardio,

936
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: right man.

937
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: Oh it was bad. It was It was so bad.