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Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back. Man, this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a fun episode. Let's see what we can get through

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 3: We already had an episode before the episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, check the octaves on this joint. Yeah. So we

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Speaker 2: got to cast the characters here today, man.

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Speaker 3: Friends of the show, to say the least, to say

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Speaker 3: the least. So we got Ray Daniels out of Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Let's go by way of New York. Originally he had

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Speaker 3: to say nice from the York.

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Speaker 1: Raised from New York. He is a cultural referee. But

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Speaker 1: we're not letting him just claim this Atlanta thing. He's

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Speaker 1: going too far, too far.

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Speaker 3: But but but Ray, if you don't know his backstory,

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Speaker 3: Ray was actually in the music business for a long

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Speaker 3: time executive and then during the pandemic actually started to

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Speaker 3: produce content. So a lot of people know you as

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Speaker 3: a content producer, a content creator, but they might not

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Speaker 3: know that you actually was a music executive.

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Speaker 4: We still still have the number one song in the

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Speaker 4: globe right now. The song is that apt the Rosie.

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Speaker 4: I always tell dues like what and then I play

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Speaker 4: for them like my kids played it all day. No

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Speaker 4: one's song in the globe, so still in it. But

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Speaker 4: on the globe, on the globe, it's not you know,

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Speaker 4: like a undred global on that chart, not the Billboard

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Speaker 4: Hot one hundred in the world.

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Speaker 2: So like in the world, it's.

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Speaker 5: The biggest K pop song of all time.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, damn seriously, And we.

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Speaker 4: Got the biggest K pop song of all time, and

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Speaker 4: we got the biggest male K pop songs, we got

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Speaker 4: the biggest female at male. So still an exact I

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Speaker 4: get busy, but I like what you guys do.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for to do this. Oh b old Melea

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Speaker 2: what's up? What's up?

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Speaker 6: By way, the d M V yep also born in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: On, he say he was a ye.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like a whole Niger boy thing.

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Speaker 1: Going shout out to legos So, co founder The Cut,

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Speaker 1: co found of The Cut. Yeah, that's a barber scheduling app,

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Speaker 1: the number one app to find a barber anywhere around

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Speaker 2: You, legendary bro change the game. Can't front and change again.

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Speaker 6: This summer we're gonna hit one hundred million appointments book,

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Speaker 6: which is crazy hand appreciated tratulation.

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Speaker 2: Oh you class for that, the studio, the studio audience.

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Speaker 3: And then the last one needs no introduction in math.

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Speaker 3: Halfa legend in the game Start.

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Speaker 2: Start. It's like we already started shout out the judging.

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Speaker 1: Very crazy he is they're talking about battle rap.

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Speaker 2: One of the pioneers of the battle rap coach.

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Speaker 3: We talked about smacking and that whole era that was

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Speaker 3: like in the two thousands that you know, he's definitely

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Speaker 3: a major figure in that, and then from the podcast

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Speaker 3: seen clips and interviews and everything that he's been doing

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of years with that. So all right, gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: thank you. We ain't say what Math from though, oh

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn from We're from. We were born in the Bronx,

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Speaker 3: from a two pairhousehold. That's all I need to know.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: So first of all, how did you three come together

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Speaker 3: and talk about why you came together?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we.

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Speaker 6: All here because we love rap at the cup, we

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Speaker 6: were trying to figure out we want to do something

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Speaker 6: cool this year and so my man Eddida Mogul, he's

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Speaker 6: always introduced and talked about that we should work with

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Speaker 6: Ray on something, just something in the music space. And

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Speaker 6: like when you think about barbershops and music culture, I

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Speaker 6: mean they go hand to hand, have been for decades.

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Speaker 6: And so I hit Ray, we talked about putting on

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Speaker 6: the competition. They hit Math. We got together and we

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Speaker 6: started talking about let's put on a three city tour.

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Speaker 6: We started in New York, then we'll go to the DMV,

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Speaker 6: then we'll go to Atlanta. Allowed MCUs to come and

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Speaker 6: spit their most fire freestyles. All you got to do

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Speaker 6: is shout out one of us or to cut on,

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Speaker 6: you know, in your freestyle, in your verse and the end,

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Speaker 6: we don't allow people to vote and choose and were

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Speaker 6: gonna crown a champl So it was done for promo

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Speaker 6: for the cut that to build brand awareness.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say awareness.

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Speaker 4: It was the fact that you know, and you wouldn't

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Speaker 4: believe how many places we went where somebody was like

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Speaker 4: this app, Oh did you own this? It's a black

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Speaker 4: owned eod. Yeah, that's mean, It's like I just used

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Speaker 4: it this morning. So it was more like just shining

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Speaker 4: owned company support. You know, the company is already successful

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Speaker 4: and it's black owned, so that's why.

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Speaker 6: You And it was done in barbershops. Yeah, we picked

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Speaker 6: the barbershop in every city.

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Speaker 5: Yep, and we set up and we let the people

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Speaker 5: go at it.

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Speaker 2: So, so talk about each one of your roles.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you got the infrastructure inside of a barbershop, You've

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Speaker 2: And then mathlick and I knew, I knew I need

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Speaker 2: we need MBC.

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Speaker 7: You got system you got and I wanted to spot

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Speaker 7: talent you got after an expert opinion.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely rap especially so to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about how this dynamic is working in terms of

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Speaker 4: Well, as I said, we was all we was laughing

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Speaker 5: It's like, because rap is a subjective thing.

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Speaker 4: Like when we spoke about it, it's like we can

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Speaker 4: all we can objectively say who's greater, who's not, But

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Speaker 4: it's really about kind of like what you're looking for.

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Speaker 4: So Math was like the bars mattered to him, and

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Speaker 4: to feel like I knew you. I want to feel

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Speaker 4: like I wanted to want to give you the check,

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Speaker 4: like damn, they was, you're going through that much here,

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Speaker 4: And you know Math was looking for like the bars, the.

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Speaker 7: Not just the bars, just the bars. A couple of

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Speaker 7: times that I told people like make us feel something. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, like but.

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Speaker 2: You but what I mean by that is like it's

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Speaker 2: like another language to me, That's what That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's like another language to me.

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Speaker 4: It's like what you got to sit me down and

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Speaker 4: take out a board talk board right every work because

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Speaker 4: for me, it's just complicated. So I look for like,

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Speaker 4: how can I follow you? And OBI just wanted you to,

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Speaker 4: you know, say something dope.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean that's that d Like I just wanted

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Speaker 6: part of it was that you had to use to

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Speaker 6: either creativity in that or just like how you talked

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Speaker 6: about barbershops or barberan culture in the verse. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think that's why all three of us had different opinions.

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Speaker 6: That's judges in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like we got some really good

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Speaker 4: it was fun man, And how much does the winner get?

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Speaker 2: Ten bands? Ten thousand dollars? And they got it. They

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Speaker 2: got to promoted on their social.

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Speaker 6: Yup currently right now our championship contestants are actively promoting it.

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Speaker 6: So we got our winner from DC, we got a

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Speaker 4: And by the way, the best part about it is

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. Women came through.

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Speaker 3: And this was this you guys funder of this sure,

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Speaker 3: and is this something that you think and eventually like

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Speaker 6: The absolute I mean we've already been talking to certain

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Speaker 6: brands who want to get involved. Like we started here

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Speaker 6: on the East Coast, and I think next we can

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Speaker 6: go down to Texas to the midwest West coast Cally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's so many opportunities to like really give

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Speaker 6: rappers and opportunity to showcase their skill, and like for us,

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Speaker 6: it's like, how do we empower this industry, just like

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Speaker 6: we do for barbers, like give an opportunity to really

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Speaker 6: like you know, show this stuff.

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Speaker 1: How many contestants applied to be a part of this

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Speaker 1: or submitted that their freestyle and you know when with.

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Speaker 6: Each probably had like to like four hundred five hundred people, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: trying to participate.

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Speaker 2: And as you're listening to it, right.

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Speaker 1: As you're listening to it, you want to be contan

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Speaker 1: and you want to be encouraging, but you know, some

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Speaker 1: people just really ain't.

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Speaker 2: Got it for sure, you know, like how did y'all

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Speaker 2: go about that?

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Speaker 1: I want math, I want to start with you because

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Speaker 1: this is this is your battleground right here. When you

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Speaker 1: had somebody that really ain't doing this, how are you

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Speaker 1: giving that feedback?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a couple of people I just look

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Speaker 2: that was you're a part of it, like you did

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Speaker 2: like you know, and a lot of them was on it.

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Speaker 7: They'd be like, nah, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some people were.

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Speaker 4: Some people were so bad that we were like, nah,

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Speaker 4: it was like nobody freestyles though, Let's just be honest

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Speaker 7: There was a people, a lot of people who walked

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Speaker 4: Ye slug slug like slugo killed it crazy. But cash

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Speaker 4: Flow walked in and he just like.

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Speaker 3: So it is that is? That is it supposed to

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 3: When the term freestyle started in hip hop it was

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Speaker 2: I'm just rapping.

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Speaker 3: That morphed into having written rhymes prepared and spitting a

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Speaker 7: Mixtape and yet okay, when you picked up a mixtape,

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Speaker 2: They're just going over somebody else's beat.

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Speaker 7: So they would call it a freestyle right right, And

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Speaker 5: Was a new beat original.

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Speaker 2: It was just rapping over not your song.

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Speaker 1: That It's like different when I heard KRS freestyle, yes,

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Speaker 1: I know, like there's no way he wrote that.

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Speaker 3: So okay, So for your guys competition, are you valuing

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Speaker 3: That's what I was looking at like and to your

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Speaker 6: And so that was the creativity that gave me extra points.

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Speaker 6: And obviously some people came in with like fully written,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And for me, it was about preparation, like anybody

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Speaker 2: To me, that's what I was judging off, like who

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Speaker 4: Like who could just do it in one you know,

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Speaker 4: like people speak one take Jay, Like that's almost like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was dunk do the first dunk.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I was looking for preparation and just who,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I want to know you, Like when

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Speaker 4: like things are times hard. It would be dope to

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Speaker 4: when you know, it's not like we're talking to eighteen

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Speaker 4: we had some fifty year olds coming there and kill it,

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Speaker 4: like just straight, like straight New York dudes that you

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Speaker 4: He should have went up. I'm laughing because like.

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Speaker 7: I was giving points for like things I shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: And I was like security had a PROPM and we

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Speaker 1: It was created. Who is securious? It's all about the

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Speaker 1: point system. So your judges, like you brought up the

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Speaker 2: How are y'all judging? What's the score? Criteria? Ten? Ten?

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Speaker 2: Ten and uh? And And the part that I didn't

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Speaker 2: like was we didn't let each other have each other score.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like you could have your score over there

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Speaker 4: and you can have your score. It was like what's

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Speaker 4: was it was involvement. It was I started looking I

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Speaker 4: don't miss this up. It's like, bro, we just having

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Speaker 4: fun with wrap. No, no, no, it's not fun.

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Speaker 2: It's not fun.

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Speaker 5: It's a serious thing.

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Speaker 7: So because a lot of a lot of guys came

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Speaker 4: But to me, I also just on a deeper level,

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Speaker 4: I also look at like when people say they want

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Speaker 4: I always I like to play with people.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, if I say called one called JG.

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Speaker 4: Wetworth, everybody can say eight seven seven cash now, like

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Speaker 4: we all heard it before, but we never played in

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Speaker 4: because a lot of these guys are nice, but now

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Speaker 4: they're putting their music out like Alex my sister, I'm sorry. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So my assistant raps right, and he's been with us

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Speaker 4: for six months, but I didn't know he.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize he rapped.

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Speaker 4: Until he started until he did the contest, And now

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Speaker 4: Alex freestyle, Like it's like, that's what's up now. He's

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Speaker 2: Sound.

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Speaker 4: So we got to remember I come from a different world,

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Speaker 2: Okay, And for six months was like.

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Speaker 4: He looked like he looked like like he loo part

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Speaker 2: Blade, like he got Blade. You're right, I mean that

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Speaker 4: Like I think you're taking it around like pit Bull

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Speaker 4: looks like Scarface. It just works, bro, you got it.

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Speaker 4: He looks like Blade. I'm listening Blade. I want to

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Speaker 4: get invited back here. I'm not gonna say no Crazy.

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Speaker 4: As soon as Mad respond, I was gonna be quiet

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Speaker 2: Just that's messed up. Let's do this so I do.

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Speaker 3: I want to come back to this, but I also

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Speaker 3: want to get individual conversations going because you each have

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Speaker 3: the person that they might not be familiar with. Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about starting this app and actually raising money

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Speaker 3: that's a journey, in this journey within itself. Absolutely, I

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Speaker 3: mean I think so the I go to the beginning.

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Speaker 3: The beginning was I had moved to North Carolina start

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Speaker 3: Every week or two, I was down in North Carolina

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Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't about just like you didn't trust

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Speaker 6: So fast forward, like a year later, I ended up

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Speaker 6: like the little prototype I showed some friends. They get excited.

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Speaker 6: We show our barber, they get really excited, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we've been off to Raceis ever since you got to

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Speaker 6: It's a subscription, yeah, serve for the barbers. They pay

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Speaker 6: a month to fee how much the barbers twenty five

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Speaker 2: You just have to pay money.

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Speaker 6: Whenever you're booking your haircut, that's when you pay like

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Speaker 3: And it's to locate barbers. So it's all things like

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Speaker 3: you can use it just to book them so you

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: You can use your card so you don't got to

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Speaker 6: like run to the ATM get cash. Like we're trying

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Speaker 1: I have that bro It's crazy. I've been using it

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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand barbers. Yeah, that's a lot, especially for

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Speaker 2: I mean the plan is go global, man.

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Speaker 6: I mean right now we are the focused domestically and

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Speaker 6: We have raised money up. How'd that process go? It

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Speaker 6: was definitely a process. But I think right it's multi stages.

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Speaker 6: Right when we first got out the game, me and

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Speaker 2: We did that. I went to James Madison in Virginia

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Speaker 6: And so after that, one of the things that we

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Speaker 6: And then after that we did like accelerator, we did textles,

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00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 6: and then that led to us finally raising our first

443
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 6: bit of venture capital and that was.

444
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 5: One and the companies in the black now it's what we.

445
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 6: Just hip offerability like earlier this year. So that was exciting.

446
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 6: I just got to give them that congrass. Congrass appreciate.

447
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 1: What makes it dope is that and everybody at the barbershop,

448
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do in life, right, whether

449
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 1: you're accounting, whether you are teacher or your freestyff, You're going

450
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 1: and go to the barbershop at some point which is

451
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Speaker 1: why I think it's dope that you brought all this together.

452
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: Obviously his music's at Math. I mean, your show was

453
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: in a barbership, and in the barbershop. Man talk about

454
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: the importance of the barbershop in the community and why

455
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Speaker 1: this all makes sense?

456
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Speaker 7: Well, I think it. You know, as far as hip

457
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 7: hop goes, you know, a lot of a lot of

458
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Speaker 7: the buzz for an artists probably starts in the barbershop.

459
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 7: I would go into a barbershop, somebody be playing a mixtape,

460
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Yo.

461
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Speaker 2: Who's that this new clue? Say? Oh, well, you think

462
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 2: you better?

463
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 7: So a lot of these hip hop conversations would happen

464
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 7: in the barbershop. So it only made sense that we

465
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 7: would have this competition in the barbershop, bars barbershops. So Math,

466
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Speaker 7: let's ask the question, Yeah, what what happened? So what

467
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Speaker 7: are you referring to?

468
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Speaker 2: All right?

469
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Speaker 3: So, for people are not familiar Math, you know you

470
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Speaker 3: and you it was something that just took off like wildfire.

471
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Speaker 2: At least to me.

472
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how long it was going on, but

473
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Speaker 3: my expert opinion that show started and then before I

474
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 3: know it, it's like everywhere viral like twenty one save.

475
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what exact moment.

476
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Speaker 2: It was not the matter bad Joe for me. That's

477
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 2: when it was like.

478
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Speaker 7: It was every which Timeth came on three times for

479
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Speaker 7: the first time.

480
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Speaker 2: It was we had a conversation the first time. I

481
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Speaker 2: don't think you saw that was the tenth episode. Oh yeah,

482
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: we could. Figured we was in there, like, Yo, how's

483
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: he doing this?

484
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: It was because you were sowing clips but the episode

485
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't drop and I'm like, yo, what is he just

486
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 1: mass recorder and just putting out pete like we were

487
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: studying it, like yo, this is this.

488
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Speaker 3: Is It was like two episodes per week, like switched clips,

489
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: five minute, ten minute clips. So, but then there's a

490
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 3: lot of things that started to happen, a lot of

491
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: ca holes started to change, and then abruptly the show transformed,

492
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like changed formats, right, you know

493
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: you're no longer in the barber shop.

494
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Speaker 7: Well, the last episode I shot was not in the barbershop.

495
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Speaker 2: Do I want to give up the barber shop? No?

496
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm still in the process of trying to sort

497
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 7: it out with the landlord and the sub Lisa and

498
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,719
Speaker 7: all that stuff.

499
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Speaker 2: So what happened. I never talked. I never like I

500
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 2: want to know, we never had.

501
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Speaker 7: This, Like I thought he closed his legs, but he

502
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 7: started by saying, life comes to your fat.

503
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Speaker 2: True. You know what I'm saying.

504
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Speaker 7: The success of the show, I wouldn't say it was

505
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 7: overnight because I started a little bit before twenty twenty.

506
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: COVID kind of shut it down.

507
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 7: So I was going live every single night ten o'clock

508
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 7: between the lines, just building up that fan base. So

509
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 7: when I restarted, it was like that fan base carried

510
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 7: over and the shop was going again. And you know,

511
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 7: everybody was hyped to be outside. So I had a

512
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 7: million people pulling up, like everybody I knew from from Brooklyn,

513
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 7: Queens wherever, all the old school heads I was connected,

514
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 7: connecting the dots to certain stories, and I was like, Okay,

515
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 7: we're gonna do nods and Tupac. So I need g

516
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 7: whiz over here. Tragedy, Kadafi. I need all the Queens

517
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 7: snicks to pull up and tell us what happened. Okay,

518
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 7: Now I'm gonna do all the jay Z stories. So

519
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get this person to come over. I'm gonna

520
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 7: get this person and I would just start putting together

521
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 7: like that, and it worked, took off, and after a

522
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 7: while I started bringing on more co host and.

523
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Speaker 2: What happened with that? We were learning.

524
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Speaker 6: What happened with that with the rays my voice, I'm.

525
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 7: A man of my word, and if you give me

526
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 7: your word, I expect that you're going to stand on it.

527
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 7: And there were a couple of situations with the co

528
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 7: hosts where they didn't want to stand on their word

529
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 7: and it and it bothered me because it's like, Yo,

530
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 7: we got all the success. Why are you guys doing

531
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 7: things now? Like why are you messing up the whole

532
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Speaker 7: blueprint of the situation? Like one of the things that uh,

533
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Speaker 7: I don't even want to Okay, all right? So I

534
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 7: had to deal with Heineken. They signed contracts and the

535
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 7: show started to take off. Pocket watching people are like, Okay,

536
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 7: we signed these contracts to get paid this, but now

537
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 7: the show is doing this. So I'm like, just hold

538
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 7: on talking with the big guy, the guy that's in

539
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 7: court right now, and I'm trying to make the situation work.

540
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 7: The guy that's in court right you know what I mean?

541
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Speaker 2: You know what shout out to him?

542
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 7: You know, you know, I hope everybody involved in that situation, Like,

543
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Speaker 7: you know, they find their way through it, you know

544
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. But while that's going on, one of

545
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 7: the things that I asked him not to do, they

546
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 7: went back and they did it, and there was a

547
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 7: lot of friction in between that. It was a whole

548
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 7: bunch of stuff, a lot of personalities and egos clashing,

549
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 7: and for me, I just I just try to keep

550
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 7: the drama away because I know in the shop, we're

551
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 7: selling friendship.

552
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: That's really what's being sold, friendship.

553
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 7: And if this turmoil, if there's fakeness, whatever, it's not

554
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 7: gonna work.

555
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: It's gonna pick up on camera.

556
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 7: And you know, I let a couple of people go

557
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 7: and then they turned into my biggest haters, and you know,

558
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 7: it is what it is. And the cycle just continued

559
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 7: every time there was a fallout. I didn't have the

560
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 7: contract that says, you know, you can't say nothing after this.

561
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: So, you know, in retrospect, because me and that it

562
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: happened a few times, do you think it was you

563
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: picking the wrong people or maybe you were a little

564
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: bit too hard as a leader, Like, just retrospectively looking

565
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: back on the situation.

566
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Speaker 7: I think a little bit of both. Because it's hard

567
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Speaker 7: to tell. It's hard to tell somebody who's done so

568
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 7: much on their own, like even as a kid, like

569
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 7: I was the type of person that if nobody had

570
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Speaker 7: my back, I'm still going to walk down that block

571
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 7: and say, yo, you forget your friends were fighting. I've

572
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 7: done so many things in my life where no one,

573
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 7: no one had my back that it's like it's hard

574
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Speaker 7: for me to say, you know what, I'm gonna try

575
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 7: to keep this together.

576
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna think no, I'm gonna just keep moving.

577
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 7: So maybe it was me being tough as a leader

578
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 7: partially and expecting things out of people where I could

579
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 7: have forgiven certain things.

580
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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about it and retrospect.

581
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Speaker 1: But looking forward, right number one, where does the show

582
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: stand going forward? And knowing what you know now, what's

583
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: the biggest lesson that you've learned going forward to saying, right,

584
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Speaker 1: I know we made a mistake there, that's some accountability

585
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Speaker 1: going forward.

586
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Speaker 7: This is what I'm doing. No compete, cause you know

587
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 7: what I'm saying and important, it's very important.

588
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Speaker 2: It is important.

589
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: But then also with something they people need to notice too,

590
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: because this is important for content creators to understand. There's

591
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: a thing when the YouTube algorithm starts to change, and

592
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: everybody felt that from a monetary standpoint, huge standpoint, all

593
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: of that. So it's like, it's difficult to run a

594
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: business when you're pretty much okay, banking, I'm hitting this

595
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: number every single long and then things change out of

596
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: your control. You don't really necessarily know how to go

597
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: about that, right, That's something that is not talked about enough,

598
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: But that happened.

599
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Speaker 2: That affected everybody across the board.

600
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Speaker 7: But if you're the person that's running everything, you're the

601
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 7: person that's like, okay, putting the guests together, controlling the

602
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 7: flow of the conversation, kind of sending people like we

603
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 7: want to go here, we want to go here, we

604
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 7: want to go here, all right. Then you're handling the

605
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 7: uploads and you know everything, Like no one in that

606
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 7: shop could tell me about the business of it because

607
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 7: I knew every aspect of it, and I control every

608
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 7: aspect of.

609
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Speaker 2: The things that I know.

610
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 7: Are like, I know, we did good this month, but

611
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 7: come January, that raid is going to drop and it's

612
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 7: going to be dead until May. So let's hold off

613
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 7: on whatever we got to do at this time. Odel

614
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 7: and people in them, they didn't understand that. They just

615
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 7: felt like what he got it? People, we did a

616
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 7: million of you and that comes to education. If you're

617
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 7: not then you think, oh no, well now he's stealing money.

618
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 7: He's like, no, I'm trying to.

619
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had this straight month and no level when

620
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Speaker 1: this episode dropped, was that an issue for the show,

621
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: like in terms of getting ad sense if you're on

622
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: YouTube because of the content, maybe because of profanity was

623
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: dead jabage.

624
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, you know we're YouTube.

625
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 7: Their policies changed, like exactly rights bro right, and it's

626
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 7: like episodes that was hot and it was still moving,

627
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 7: all of a sudden it's demonetized because there's a new policy.

628
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 7: And so it's a lot of going back and checking

629
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 7: and you know, western of review and trying to read,

630
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 7: trying to take things out of the footage.

631
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. And like I said,

632
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: nobody else understood that but me.

633
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 7: So when it came to like, you know, people just

634
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 7: seeing like, oh yeah, I think the show is doing this.

635
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: I think they're doing that.

636
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 7: A lot of guestimations, a lot of and I just

637
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 7: don't like that type of shit, you know what I mean,

638
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 7: Like it doesn't work.

639
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: But they also don't talk about how hard it is

640
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: when you're dealing with how many how many people was

641
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: on there, it was like seventy.

642
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: Y'all five okay, so five and.

643
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Some including me, So it's five people all with different personalities.

644
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: You know, all we as black men have been raised

645
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: and one to be the man. You know, it's like

646
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: we don't. They don't teach us to be a part

647
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: of it. So it's like I could be doing it

648
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: those his ors and nobody understands, like, it's hard for

649
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: you guys to be here still be rocking. Y'all deserve

650
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: credit for that because it is almost impossible to build

651
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: with most people because of their expectations of what Like,

652
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: just because you outside and people celebrate, y'all don't mean

653
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: we win it.

654
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean that might be.

655
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: God sending us a sign saying we on the right path.

656
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: But winning is when we reach a certain goal, and

657
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: that's probably you know, that's that's something to be spoken

658
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: about because these I'm tired of it happened, everybody breaking up.

659
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 7: It takes discipline, man, it takes discipline, and you got

660
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Speaker 7: to respect and trust each other. But if you come

661
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 7: from a cutthroat business where you expect people to be cutthroat.

662
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 7: It's like those shadows who are going to follow you.

663
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 7: You're looking for what I mean? Yeah, are you seeing

664
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Speaker 7: those similarities?

665
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Speaker 4: Right?

666
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to you because you come from the

667
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Speaker 1: music industry, obviously in the content creation space.

668
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Speaker 2: Now it is a filthy game, man.

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Speaker 5: It's about the content creation. Oh I lost.

670
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Speaker 2: Everybody talk about it. I'm not actually feeling bathroom because

671
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Speaker 2: I'm like, at least you got to a million, like

672
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Speaker 2: I would.

673
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Speaker 4: Lost everybody when I ain't even wasn't in montage yet.

674
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: My people was leaving because, like they thought, people don't understand.

675
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Speaker 4: I'm a successful music exec. So I make seven figures

676
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Speaker 4: for music. I'm investing that. So because I want to

677
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: do a podcast, I paid everybody in.

678
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Speaker 2: The room, including my co hosts.

679
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Speaker 3: And then so it's like before you started making money,

680
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Speaker 3: what they.

681
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Speaker 4: Want because I already know that they're gonna come in

682
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Speaker 4: my office. They see how my office is, they like, oh,

683
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: he got it. You know what how much you want?

684
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay you for the money.

685
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: And I paid everybody and then we started and then

686
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: it started becoming their dream. Now, so now they're like

687
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: I got stuff to do, I gotta go shoot another

688
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: person podcast. Hold on, you weren't even shooting pot. I

689
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: like put I created this a sudden my cost left

690
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: in the middle of an in not compete clothes. Listen,

691
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: the crazy part is that, but this is how it works,

692
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: though we don't think about that in podcast. And as

693
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: soon as you said it, I'm like, yo, if I

694
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: have my phone, I would have text chests and mic

695
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: like no compete.

696
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Cloth because it's something to think about.

697
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: Because what people don't understand is I'm putting you and

698
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: we just said it's like I'm putting you on my album.

699
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: I can't take that album out of stores no more.

700
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: It's like Evergreen. Once I uploaded and if they got

701
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: millions of views, I don't want to take it down

702
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: because I don't message you no more. So it's hard

703
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: to build in any space, y'all want to be honest.

704
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard.

705
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to build with broke people, and it's hard

706
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: to build with broke minded people, broke minded people no,

707
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: because because even if you broke, if you got the

708
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: right mentality, you're gonna get to the money. Broke minded people,

709
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: it's hard to build it because they don't understand. It's

710
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: like when people say them, Jordan's cost twenty dollars to make,

711
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: why would you pay one hundred and fifty?

712
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Nobody factors in that somebody.

713
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: Has to fly it, they have to ship into the store,

714
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: somebody has to work at foot. Like all these people

715
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: get paid to get the shoot of us unless you

716
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: want to go to the factory yourself and buy all

717
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: the pantcil twenty dollars.

718
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Like the two is that very few people want to

719
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: be underboss telling television.

720
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Speaker 2: Nobody does.

721
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 3: Very few people want to be underbossed. Like when they

722
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: get the underboss position, they want to become the boss. Yes, right,

723
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: because they see the line they even if it's not

724
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: what they even if it's that's not the reality, it's

725
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: what they think is reality. So they're like one part

726
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: of it, like I want to do this for myself.

727
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: I want to experience this. I want to go to

728
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: this party and get treated like this myself.

729
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 7: But they don't realize, like, you're undercutting what we're.

730
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Speaker 2: All right, you know what I mean? It's a selfish minds. Right.

731
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Speaker 7: If we have an interview show and you go create

732
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Speaker 7: an interview show.

733
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Speaker 2: What's happening here, you know what I mean. Like I

734
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: used to sell drugs, so I'm looking at it, like,

735
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: what my block, man, what's happening here?

736
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 7: You're taking the work where No, bro, I cain't get

737
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 7: piece of what you're doing.

738
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Speaker 1: You cut me now, you cut my legs. Every time

739
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: it's ego is disciplined. My man derk Falcon said something point.

740
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: He's like, sometimes being number two is being number one. Yeah,

741
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: because you've put your ego decide to let somebody else

742
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: go and and be the face of things. Right, the

743
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: name got the show, got your name on it. That

744
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: don't mean I'm not important to the show. I'm part

745
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: of it.

746
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Right.

747
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get blinded by the success of it and

748
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, I should have my own ship.

749
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: My coest quick to go work for free? What nuts?

750
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: And andn't even on camera no more.

751
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: She's literally behind Like it's like if you have magic,

752
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: la Red would teach me that. He said, everybody is

753
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: just looking for their magic combination. Once you find the magic,

754
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: once you find it, keep the world out. Don't let

755
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 4: nobody touch it, because once they touch it, it's over.

756
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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you guys, all three of you,

757
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: because you'll have different perspective from a music standpoint, you

758
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: from a startup standpoint, you from coming in the game

759
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: on the podcast and content creation standpoint. But I had

760
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: a conversation with Charla Man and he said he felt

761
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: that people were not fully educated on like podcast industry,

762
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: which was leading them to have unrealistic expectations and was

763
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: leading them to turn down good deals in hindsight, but

764
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: they was looking at it from a standpoint of it

765
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 3: wasn't a good deal.

766
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 7: You know what, there's an element that you got to

767
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 7: add to that. You got to add to the you

768
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 7: have to add the other deals that you hear floating around.

769
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, you know what, you got twenty, but

770
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you I got one hundred and seventy.

771
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: It's the headline.

772
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: It's like podcasting business expected to generate eight billion dollars.

773
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: But then but then you start comparing yourself to things

774
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: that We never really got the full details of Cam

775
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: and Mason situation. We never really got the full no,

776
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: no disrespont, I'm just saying we never got the full

777
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: details of the million dollar for game. We never got

778
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 3: the full details of Joe Week. Nobody like in the NBA,

779
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: so it's transparent. We know how much Steph Curry signed for,

780
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: so now it creates cops.

781
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: Right.

782
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: So now if you're a similar player with a similar

783
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: market value, you could say, Okay, now I this is

784
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: what I'm worth because X, Y and Z player got

785
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: that in this industry is all and nobody's you know,

786
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 3: saying so it's.

787
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 7: Like nobody's really so I'm gonna say this, nobody's really

788
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 7: sharing the information.

789
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say no names.

790
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 7: Probably there's a couple of people I called with questions

791
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 7: and when I got off the phone, I had more

792
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 7: questions than I started.

793
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: That's okay, And.

794
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: It was like, damn because they didn't know. They didn't

795
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: they didn't want to tell.

796
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 7: They knew either they didn't know what they didn't want

797
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 7: to tell, or someone else is really running them.

798
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: That's that's that's really what it is. They want to

799
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: tell you, but they ain't stop to learn it.

800
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: I think I think it's two things they don't know

801
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: because some people are just not fully educated and they

802
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: don't know, or they may they may know, and they

803
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: don't want to tell period.

804
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: And to me, the weird part is like, to me,

805
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: we should all be sharing info about podcasting, And to me,

806
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: if you're coming into podcasts and worrying about the cameras

807
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: and the views, you don't understand the concept in my mind,

808
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: Like I swear I've said this everywhere I go. I'm like,

809
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: I look at you two guys. You two guys like

810
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: you guys have the biggest invest festival in the world.

811
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: Twenty thousand Black people like those are people that probably

812
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: watched a few shows, but they.

813
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: Know who y'all are. It's like, it's like, to me,

814
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: that's the problem.

815
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: I have a podcast and it's like, this is an

816
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 4: opportunity to create a brand, to build something on. You're

817
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: so worried about, Man, how many views we got, Well,

818
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 4: if you don't have so many views we got, please

819
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: ask so much all these wires and cameras and people costs.

820
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: Well that's the So all right, you bring up a

821
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: good point, because that's the thing that a lot of

822
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: people are not taking advantage of it.

823
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: That causes problems.

824
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: When you only relying on views to get money, then

825
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: that's that's problematic. Let me just perspect, right, you got

826
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: to have products to sell, You got to have different

827
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: ancillary things where this should just be a commercial twenty

828
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: four stay anything that if you can get money from YouTube,

829
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: that's a blessing, but it shouldn't be your only.

830
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: But that's that's what we learn from hip hop like

831
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: these I'm in the music business. I promise you these

832
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: guys do not get royalties. They don't get royalties. They

833
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: just get advances. And once you go you get your money.

834
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: How you get it the people that was.

835
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Here and here no more show you get show money

836
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: and that's how to get it.

837
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: So I want I'm saying that most artists don't make

838
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: money from recorded music like they make money from appearance

839
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: and show money, show money more everything.

840
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: The billionaires in our culture got rich off of as

841
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 3: like Jays like for liquor, did he became a billionaire

842
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: because the liquor?

843
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: Kanye became a billionaire for merchandise merchant.

844
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Speaker 6: The main thing is you want to use something to

845
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 6: build your brand. As long as you build your brand

846
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: and you build trust like through content or through like

847
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 6: rap or whatever, that give you that like that like

848
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 6: credibility that you can go and sell anything. Point That's

849
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: how jay Z, That's how manages record. That's how Kevin Heart,

850
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: That's how everybody's doing their brand today.

851
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 5: But look at look at academics. Academics is huge.

852
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: But he started with well, he was his own man,

853
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: but complex really put him on the map. Joe, even

854
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: Joe had got the complex like.

855
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: Well, and that's why turning. So sometimes the deal is

856
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: more than just money. It helps elevate your so now

857
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: you but you still keep your platform even when you're

858
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: not with that said comp period. So all right, so

859
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: for all of you three, do you think that not

860
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: having the right information is hurting us more with negotiating deals?

861
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

862
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: Definitely, definitely that's design though, But I got to say, okay,

863
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 7: all right, in the form and as far as it

864
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 7: entertainment field, a lot of people to succeed in. It

865
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 7: didn't come from business school, that's true, you know what

866
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Like me personally, aside from from hustling, I

867
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 7: might have had a couple jobs here and it battle rap.

868
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 7: That was like hustling, that's not money. I had to

869
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 7: report to the government. I was getting cashed. You know

870
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. It is what it is. So once

871
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 7: I got to this level with the podcast where it

872
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 7: was hundreds of thousands like coming through, it was like

873
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: I didn't. I didn't know what to do, you know

874
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 7: what I mean? And some of us come from a

875
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 7: family where there is nobody else you can add most

876
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 7: of us.

877
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm thinking even the startups, like when it

878
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 6: comes to fundraising and trying to raise money, like to

879
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 6: grow your business, Like there's so much information you don't

880
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 6: know when it comes to like the other companies and

881
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 6: how they did their deals, like what were the metrics

882
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: that they got valued on? What was the different Like

883
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 6: how did this VC like analyze their business? And like

884
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 6: if you have a lot of friends who are other founders,

885
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: they can give you the inside scoop on like how

886
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 6: how this investor works, so like the metrics and kind

887
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: of you know, basically like how to run your deal

888
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 6: process right, But if you don't know that, you're going

889
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 6: in there blind and then the VC has.

890
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 3: All You got to be educated to ask a question

891
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: here exactly. I asked chat GBT a question for something

892
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: similar because I'm like, I wanted to just confirm and

893
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: it gave me a detailed answer. But like you said,

894
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: if you don't if you don't even have enough education

895
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: to ask no question asked, what are you gonna ask?

896
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: There's so many things right now that I'm so thankful

897
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 6: that I have friends who like are further along than

898
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 6: I do, because when like when we go and run

899
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: our process now to your point shot to chat lawyer, GBT, like, there's.

900
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: So many there's so much information.

901
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 6: I've been able to like ascertain to go out and

902
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 6: like hit them with questions on because you know, you

903
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: gotta get the best deal for everyone to vote.

904
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: But I can tell you what it is. I'm I'm

905
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 4: gonna be honest. I just think it's us. They don't

906
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: want us to know.

907
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: Like, let me tell you why I say that.

908
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 4: Brian Coogler, Brian Coogler, it's the biggest how many directors

909
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: have deals that we don't know they deals and everybody's like,

910
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: here's Ryan Coogler deal.

911
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Immediately the world immediately the world knew.

912
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: But then he goes and said, I'm not the first

913
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: person to get this deal. I'm the first black person

914
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: to get this deal. And what happens when we see

915
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: one get all of us feel like we're going to

916
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: ask for it.

917
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: And that's what the scary part is. So it's like,

918
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: so like, for.

919
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: Example, I contribute to when I was in music and

920
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: I was.

921
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 5: Worked at my last job. It was like the gold Rush.

922
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't even get to know you to

923
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: know if I want to work with you because you

924
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: so hot that everybody chasing you that I'm I'm just trying.

925
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: To figuret how much money you want?

926
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: So it's like you gotta look at it. We gave

927
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: an only chop an eight million, right, It's like, how

928
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 4: the hell I'm gonna tell him what to do now?

929
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like everything he did got

930
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: him the biggest deal in history. How do I go

931
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: tell him now what to do? Right?

932
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: So to me, I think it's how they treat us.

933
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: And what I would say is is that we all

934
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 4: should be picking up the phone saying, here's what's in

935
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: my deal. And we just don't trust each other, but

936
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 4: that's what we should be doing. Quietly, Yo, here's my deal.

937
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: I did an interview where I told people you should

938
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 4: get a buy sell.

939
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that was.

940
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: But Polo, my boy, Polo to Don didn't deal with

941
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: and that I did at Sony and he renegotiated and

942
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: they I'm a by sell. And even he knew that

943
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: because his lawyer was Peter Paterno, who represented some of

944
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: you two all these other big people. That was like,

945
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: here's what you need in your deal, So now we

946
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 4: know that asked for it. One last thing, I remember

947
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: when I was doing Chopper deal, and I'm gonna say it,

948
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: nobody knows it was me when he was doing his deal,

949
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: and Chopper's lawyer is a black guy. So when he's

950
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: sent it the deal, he's like, he wants eight million,

951
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: And then he had his legal fees in there, and

952
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: lawyers get paid five percent of the deal. So he

953
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: was old four hundred thousand, so when he puts in

954
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: his deal, he puts in a number way less than

955
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 4: four hundred.

956
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: So think about it.

957
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: I could have just been like, I'm saving the company money. Nah, hell,

958
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: I call a lawyer. Why are you gonna ask for

959
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: two for the number you asked for? He said, oh, man,

960
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: you think he gonna give me five percent?

961
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: I said, they give it to Joe Cats the piece

962
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: Joe Casts, I'll let it give it to Joe Cats

963
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: put it in a deal. So he puts it in.

964
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: The back of the deal, sends the deal over, and

965
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 4: then had a legal at the company. He's like, man,

966
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: somebody might have hip him to because now the only

967
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: thing different is the lawyer want his full fee. He's like,

968
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: by the way, that lawyer is black. He's like, only

969
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 4: somebody wants to hit them. Why didn't you hit the

970
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: right right right?

971
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: By the way, That's the only reason why we got

972
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: the deal, because now the lawyer.

973
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: Is like, wow, Ray, thank you for looking out for me.

974
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: So let me tell you what's going on. He wants this.

975
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: If you get this, this, and this, I think we

976
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: can get it done.

977
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: And that's how we got the deal.

978
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: So it's like, but if I didn't be transparent with

979
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: my brother, we don't get there and we need more

980
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: of that.

981
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it, Like you said, you were

982
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: able to call Polo right, yep. Building that circular trust

983
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: is tough. Right, I did the deal. I wasn't able to.

984
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: I actually did the deal, and then I was leaving

985
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: to go to Enniscope and I was trying to take

986
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: Polo had a artist named Kane Brown was like one

987
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: of the biggest country artists in the world, and he

988
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: was going crazy. So I'm trying to bring him the

989
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: inn the Scope. So Sony is like, no, you over

990
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: here with us. So Polo's like no, I can go

991
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: because I have proof that I sent them. I submitted

992
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: it when I was working there, So Polo's like, here

993
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: on my proof, race submitted it. Y'all didn't pass. So

994
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: they go, well, let's change the deal term so you

995
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: to stay there. So I couldn't get mad at that.

996
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: He gets to buy sell now if you wanted now.

997
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: So cash Money has a by sale, Todd Moskins has

998
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: a by seal. These are things that if the artists

999
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: are really yours, like when they send JERMAINI pre call me.

1000
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: He got mad at me when they send you home

1001
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: as a CEO. Mostly like when they send Puff home,

1002
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: they keep his artists. When if you get rid of

1003
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: Cash Money, Wayne Drake, everything with them goes with them.

1004
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 5: That's why you have a by selling deal.

1005
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: I remember after I put that, just that little clip,

1006
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: like thirty seconds, everywhere I went for like a month,

1007
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: every black executive.

1008
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: Bro, why are you doing that? Man? Mother? For everybody

1009
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: asked for by sales now, I'm like, what don't we

1010
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: want us to know? What is the problem. It's almost

1011
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: like it's almost like it's not for us yet.

1012
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: Let's let them get the most out of it and

1013
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: then we'll give it to you by selling.

1014
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 5: Okay, So here's a by sale.

1015
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: So a by sale means that at some point in time,

1016
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: when the deal expires, when we get to a certain point,

1017
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna value or bring an outside company to give

1018
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 4: us a valuation of what the company is worth. And

1019
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: at that moment, so say the company's worth for one

1020
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty million, At that moment, you can go

1021
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: cut the universe will check for one hundred and eighty million.

1022
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 4: And now you could take it to Sony like Tom

1023
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: Mosquiz did when he took a little Dirk rod Wave

1024
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 4: took He took them all the son So Sony probably

1025
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: gave him three four hundred million, he gave in the

1026
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: scope a universal or whatever he owed them, and he

1027
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: got a whole new deal. So it just means you

1028
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 4: own it like most of us don't own nothing in

1029
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: the music business. But if you ever buy sale, it's yours.

1030
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: They cannot get rid of you, and if they do,

1031
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: they got to pay you. The biggest cash out of

1032
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: history was a guy named was a guy named Clive

1033
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: Calder who had a deal with BMG and he did

1034
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 4: a buy sale. He had to buy sellers deal and

1035
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: basically they had to give him two point seven billion.

1036
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: This is the year that n SYNC. Yeah, this year

1037
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 5: at n SYNC, Britney Spears and.

1038
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: What's the other group backtreet Boys for all the biggest

1039
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: groups in the world. And he went to BMG and

1040
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: was like nope, and he cast out. That's what brought

1041
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 4: BMG down, by the way, just a fun fact by sale.

1042
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: So that's why they don't like giving it to you

1043
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: because once you apply it, you got to cut me

1044
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 4: a check or I gotta cut you a check. Yeah, yeah,

1045
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: but the game forever. But white boys have been doing

1046
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: it forever. It's just we don't know about it.

1047
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: So like that deal Ryan Cooker got, they all got it,

1048
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: we just don't know about it.

1049
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: He has it, Yeah he does. There's plenty of directors

1050
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: who own the field. Even Spike to a certain sense

1051
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: owns his content. But like the fact that you're given

1052
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: game and not kicking down a ladder is like you

1053
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: become a guy that people can now call in the

1054
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: VC world, Like when you were doing it, who's the

1055
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: person that you're calling? Even math, it's like, yo, we

1056
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: making six figures in the content space? Are you calling

1057
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: other content creators? Are you calling dudes that came up

1058
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: because they like who are you getting the infant? Who's

1059
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the circle of trust as you're doing it?

1060
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 6: I mean for me, it's definitely founders I've met along

1061
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: the way, like founders of companies where we either have

1062
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 6: like the same investors, so like we're like we're pertfolio companies,

1063
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 6: so like we share an investor. And then other founders

1064
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 6: I've met just networking, like at different events, and like

1065
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: that circle of trust because like we all trust trust

1066
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 6: each otherer. We're going through the same shit, Like that's

1067
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: how we've built this rapport and through that's how we

1068
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 6: feel comfortable enough sharing like some of these deal terms.

1069
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: And then like you know, we.

1070
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 6: Like we've been talking because like we want to start

1071
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 6: making a lot more transparency out there.

1072
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: And I even see tea people on.

1073
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: TikTok or like the platforms today like where they are

1074
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 6: giving like real inside game from inside of the VC,

1075
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 6: so they're letting you know, as a VC how we

1076
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 6: look at the business too. So like I think just

1077
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 6: the the internet, cell phones is given a lot more

1078
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 6: people the ability to share information and so like if

1079
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: you find the right people to follow, like yeah there's yeah,

1080
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 6: you can get what you need to know.

1081
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 5: For me, it was Wallow Wallow.

1082
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 4: Wallow showed us to my studio like three or four

1083
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: months into my pot and was like, you're gonna blow up.

1084
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do I make money?

1085
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: He's like this this is He showed me his deals.

1086
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: He showed me the Amazon offers, the barstool office. He

1087
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: was the first person that I just met him by

1088
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: the way, like, literally, what's up man, Nice to meet you.

1089
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: Let me show us my deals. This just need to

1090
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: look for.

1091
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: We need more of that with each other because they're

1092
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: going to keep as long if we're not together, they're

1093
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 4: going to keep being able to excess out and let

1094
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: who they want in and give them the info as

1095
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: long as they don't tell anybody, and then they go

1096
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: after you.

1097
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I actually ran to Wallow in Vegas the

1098
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, I love

1099
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: what y'all doing. Keep killing and keep killing it. And

1100
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: then he looked at the He's like, Yo, this is

1101
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: the deal Amazon's off.

1102
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: Friend. Yep, we're not taking it. Yeah, he said, okay,

1103
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: but he's like, nah, we work more. I'm like, go

1104
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: get it.

1105
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 4: And literally I called him like when I called while

1106
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: he's like, Ray, just keep doing this. You got to

1107
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: keep doing it. So it's like you have those people

1108
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: but we but I think in this space we understand

1109
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: it more now that it's mature than you kind of

1110
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: know who the giants are, eyl you know, like for

1111
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: a million, Like I'm trying to get to a hundred subs,

1112
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: so you got a million ready, so you know who

1113
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: the giant saw. But even me, it's like I love

1114
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: it cause it's like he's still gonna mess with me.

1115
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna mess with y'all. We still because we

1116
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: understand what it is. It's like we need more of that,

1117
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: more fellowship, more talking to each other.

1118
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: More.

1119
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 5: AO, this is should be in your deal. Don't let

1120
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 5: them do that.

1121
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: I've done that my whole career because I've always gotten

1122
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 4: lucky in my deals, Like I never like I always

1123
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: went to my deals.

1124
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: Like man, I just want a hundred thousand, man, and

1125
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: then we get a million. How we get that? And

1126
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: it's like because it was luck.

1127
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 4: It was like God and God is like, hey, don't hoard,

1128
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: don't hoard the information I give you because I could

1129
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: have gave it to somebody else. So that's why I'm

1130
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: big on like just sharing as many if you wanted.

1131
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: This out there, who's in you circle? Now?

1132
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: Well, I was math might be a little different though,

1133
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 3: because it's a all right.

1134
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: We're picking on that.

1135
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 7: Like I said, I put out a lot of those

1136
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 7: phone calls and it wasn't the same reception.

1137
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: But do you think for you, Okay, you might. You're

1138
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: a different persona than Ray.

1139
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: Right. You're a nice guy. You're a good guy.

1140
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying you might be a little bit

1141
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: more threatening. No, no, what gives you?

1142
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: He just said he wants to see it going to

1143
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: projects and fight people like what are you doing?

1144
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 7: But not in that way, in a way that a

1145
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 7: lot of the other who would whoever you would call

1146
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 7: our competitors. They took gills early, contemporaries, right, contemporaries, they

1147
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 7: took deals early.

1148
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: This thing was and still is independent.

1149
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 7: Got got to a million subscribers without a network without

1150
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, corporation organic organic. So like, yeah,

1151
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 7: a lot of times I felt lonely, like how do

1152
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 7: you do?

1153
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: Oh you oh, I don't know. You gotta figure it out.

1154
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 7: One person literally told me, I don't know, you gotta

1155
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 7: figure it out that's crazy.

1156
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: Wow, that's hating. That's hate. That's crazy.

1157
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 7: That's crazy, say to a more Friday, that's the question.

1158
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: Where you go after you said that? That makes sense. You'

1159
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: all the same folk, cover the same world. It's like

1160
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: it's a little different Friday.

1161
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: We would have happy that sharing. For me, some people

1162
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: are more a little open door.

1163
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's value and opening the doors. It's value

1164
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: and being the first person. It's value in leading is valuing,

1165
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: and I think our people are just learning that because

1166
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: it hasn't been like we seen our killers get killed

1167
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: before they get a dollar in their pocket and it's like, nah,

1168
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: it's value in that. Like people like Jay, you know,

1169
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 4: these guys are leading, making all this money.

1170
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: It's value in this.

1171
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: It's just if you're gonna look at them like you

1172
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: supposed to be my brother, give me the information, you're

1173
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: never gonna get it. Well.

1174
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: The thing about it, I think it's two types of mindsets.

1175
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 3: It's an abundant mindset and scarcity mindset. Talk that scarcity

1176
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: mindset looks at it like when I climb up the

1177
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: lad I'm kicking the ladder down to make sure that

1178
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: nobody else gets up. Because now I'm in the penthouse

1179
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: by myself, and I could just run around.

1180
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: But that's a limited mindset because how much can you

1181
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: really do by yourself?

1182
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Exactly now, The abundance mindset is I'm gonna get as

1183
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: many people in the penthouse as possible so we can

1184
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: take over the building. That's what people don't understand. It's

1185
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: like you're looking at it from a limited mindset and

1186
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 3: you might have been hurt before. You might have tried

1187
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 3: to help somebody and they screwed you over. I get

1188
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: that part of it. That's never going to be long

1189
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 3: term success. You're actually hurting yourself by not having more.

1190
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: Like if there's thirty seven people that have one hundred

1191
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: million dollars, that's only better for the industry as opposed

1192
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: to one person.

1193
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 7: Right as time, it keeps that industry alive, it actually

1194
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 7: grows that industry.

1195
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 6: We were talking about it even just without barbers, that

1196
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 6: same type of abundance versus scarcity, because like there's some

1197
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 6: barbers out there who don't want to be on a

1198
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 6: platform like The Cut because they don't want their clients

1199
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 6: to be seen by other barbers, so they're more afraid

1200
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 6: of losing business versus realizing being on a platform like

1201
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 6: the Cut opens you up to the million plus people

1202
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 6: who are on a platform searching for barbers every day.

1203
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: So just like the difference between like the abundance versus

1204
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 6: scarcity is huge.

1205
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: It's probably the biggest problem in our community, the abundance

1206
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: versus scarcity mentality. Like while we don't help each other, Like,

1207
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: but I'll say this, most of us that have gotten

1208
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: to a certain table, usually we've been made to think

1209
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 4: once we got to that table, you're only here because

1210
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: you're not like them.

1211
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: Oh why a lot of people This is another part

1212
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 3: where they tell you a lot of people, like especially

1213
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: from the nineties, early two thousands, they've reached the level

1214
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: of success differently than how we've reached success. We've reached

1215
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 3: success independently through cell phonest, so our mindset is completely different.

1216
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: They've reached success by a corporate executive putting them in position.

1217
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Taking that.

1218
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: So their level of success is all they know is

1219
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: a white person picked me up and put me in

1220
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: this position, and as long as I served that person right,

1221
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: and the same thing that how they taught them, how

1222
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: they treat them. Now they passing that down and that's

1223
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: that's the gatekeeper mentality.

1224
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: That's what's happened in the music industry right now. That's

1225
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: why I quit it, because that's exactly what's happenings. Just

1226
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: you're not getting picked because you're great. You're getting picked

1227
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: because you're friends with this person and he doesn't he

1228
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: wants you in position because he feels like you're going

1229
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 4: to protect him from them.

1230
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Hasn't it always been like that?

1231
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean, well it was, but once I think once

1232
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: it got bigger and bigger and bigger, it started the

1233
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: game got bigger, money got bigger, it started becoming like

1234
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: playing keep away, to the point where it's like like

1235
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: when they put Elliott Grange in Craig Calman. See, you

1236
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: gotta understand, Creig Calman has been at Atlantic longer than

1237
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: Elliott has been alive in the CEO position, not like junior,

1238
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: and he got to see you on the last he's

1239
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: been to CEO for the last twenty thirty years. And

1240
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: you put somebody younger him who doesn't know any of

1241
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: those people.

1242
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: So what you just did?

1243
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: Anybody has those relationships cut Lucy's son. Yeah, yeah, But

1244
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: by the way, Elliott is good at his job, but

1245
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: he's just young and he doesn't care. He's from that unk,

1246
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 4: you know that generation, like, oh, y'all needs gonna know nothing,

1247
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 4: and we know how that winds up playing out, right,

1248
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: So it's just that mentality. So now he basically brings

1249
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: and hiss you guys who are all younger than him.

1250
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: And what happens to all those guys who's been there

1251
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: twenty thirty years? They going home to figure it out.

1252
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 4: So when you start seeing they sending people home and

1253
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: it's it's like, I'm cool on that, man. I go

1254
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: home myself. Bro, That's how I've lived my life just

1255
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 4: for that reason. Like I don't play that.

1256
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: Are there any more stars and music? Right?

1257
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: We have we have a core and we keep seeing

1258
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: them win awards and go on to it, But are

1259
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: there new stars?

1260
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: Right? I went to a stadium, we went to the

1261
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: Catcher joining.

1262
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: It was a stadium tour, and I started thinking to myself,

1263
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, how many artists can do that?

1264
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: And the reason why they can do that is because

1265
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: they it's like having a big brother in the building, like, oh,

1266
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna make this. So you know, the businesses, it's dirty,

1267
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 4: but it's only dirty because behind closed doors, we're treating

1268
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: you like a product, but you can a person, right,

1269
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: So it's like, if this mic don't work, we like

1270
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: give me another mic, you know. But if Mike is

1271
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: human and we thought away, it's like, how could you

1272
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 4: do that to that mic? He's been there with you.

1273
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Twenty years and it's like, you know what I mean?

1274
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: So I think that's the problem.

1275
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: So we do have stars, we don't have any superstars.

1276
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: And the reason I don't have any superstars because we

1277
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: don't have people the super game superstars like what like

1278
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: Scissor Traviscott superstar. A superstar to me is when you

1279
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: hit that space where you you can't go under where

1280
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 4: you are like jay Z call it the white hot space,

1281
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 4: where's like you're trying to be hot.

1282
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hit that white space where.

1283
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: I can be breaks a superstar. Drake's a superstar, Travis

1284
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: Scott's superstar. Future is a superstar? Future is he a superstar?

1285
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 5: Futures a superstar?

1286
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeh? Future a superstar? He might. He don't have the

1287
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the present his music.

1288
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: Makes superstar No, I think men me. He's a creative

1289
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: director for lad Ben. So when you got big European brand, Yeah, yeah.

1290
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying I'm thinking in terms of can

1291
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: you do a stadium?

1292
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: They can't do a stadium, no, but but neither could Kendrick.

1293
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did what he did.

1294
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 5: Very important. But that's like on the run, same concept stadium.

1295
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: He's always done that though he partnered with Heart Justin

1296
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 3: Tim Yes, it does that.

1297
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: Smart, he's smart. Arenas the Justin Tip Blake one was

1298
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 2: baseball fields.

1299
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: That's still stadium like baseball baseball stadium, baseball, football stadiums,

1300
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 4: Basketball is arena, true, okay, and hockey.

1301
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: Yes, let's have this conversation, shall we, Because barbershop, you

1302
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: guys have a freestyle battle competition, right, so it's about

1303
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: rap people that rap, So let's have a few rap conversations.

1304
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: So Frail, you up for that? So I love this.

1305
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm watching scores.

1306
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: The first one, you know, shot to punch my guy punch.

1307
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: So you you guys had an interesting take as far

1308
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: as New York rappers, and it was entering and I

1309
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: actually called both of you gentlemen. You did and you

1310
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: have Jay at number one, okay, but then you have

1311
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: you had fabulous and Jadakiss.

1312
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: No, he had he had Jadakiss' number two, and Fabulous

1313
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 4: is number three, three, and I agreed.

1314
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: And then you agreed, and then and then the four

1315
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: and then four was a debate. I think it might

1316
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: have been Nick yeah, and then you had nads at

1317
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 3: the tail end of this situation, he did. You didn't

1318
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: even have noads at all. So my, oh, yeah, this

1319
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: is this is a nos thing going on.

1320
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 4: This is the same thing when I'm in the place

1321
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: to address it because I know how you feel about it.

1322
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 7: So it's like, let's go, this is this is this

1323
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 7: is the guy that depicts Nelly over Noine.

1324
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: No I did not that on the record, No I said,

1325
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: I said, Nellie is the better songwriter.

1326
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: That's crazy, A songwriter maker, made a song, a hit maker, okay,

1327
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: so okay, because he has a number one single.

1328
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: He'show ten million albums first time out, so all right.

1329
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: So I had to call I personally called both of

1330
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: these gentlemen, because by the way, it was like, looks

1331
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: like in the morning, he's not playing and I.

1332
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: And Jada Kiss is actually know Jada Kiss personally, and

1333
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: Jada Kiss he's from the same area, hometown. Hero, He's

1334
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: a legend, and Fabulous is one of the dopest rappers

1335
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: of all time like Ball for Ball bunchlines like he's

1336
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: super dope. But we got to stop this disrespect of

1337
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: nas please please, like we have to stop the disrespect.

1338
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: Now. I want to say this. I told this is

1339
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: a shot.

1340
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this on record, Okay, So this is

1341
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: how I look at So here's why I do this.

1342
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: First of all, so I was born in the Bronx.

1343
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: I left New York right when I turned twelve, so

1344
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: you gotta I left in New York and it's like

1345
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: Eric b rock Kim, like I'm at the Apollo toughen

1346
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: Leavel everything. I go to the South and it's just

1347
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 4: like a whole new scene and they got.

1348
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: Their people and they think they people are just as

1349
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: good as New Yorkers, but y'all never heard of them,

1350
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: but they heard of y'all people. So it was always

1351
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: like that.

1352
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: So my best friend, he really and if he was here,

1353
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: he would swear to God that keiloh Ali is better

1354
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: than jay Z, Like you can't.

1355
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: Tell him that.

1356
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: You can't tell him the Wu Tang clan is better

1357
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 4: than Yin yan't Twin, you can't he like Nigga, they got.

1358
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: The girl Trking and popping. It's like that's what matters

1359
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: to him.

1360
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: So that's what really made me so when I when

1361
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: I'm so, I told her, y'all, nods to me is

1362
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: top five greatest MC's alive, God MC, like I have

1363
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: to give him that right the same way you would

1364
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: give Avatar one of the greatest movies of all time,

1365
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: but I'd rather watch Juice. So what I was basically

1366
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: saying is I rather listen to FAB than listening. I

1367
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: personally rather listen to FAB than NADS, And that's what

1368
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 4: I meant, But like I listened to NADS.

1369
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: But I also I'll be honest with you, y'all. You

1370
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: know this, y'all both know, y'all two, that's side of ROM.

1371
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: Y'all know you guys arguing me about NAS, y'all know

1372
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: only about ten of them really no NAS music. The

1373
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: other ones is just the ninety that don't want to

1374
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: disappoint y'all from from whatever period.

1375
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that you don't understand like you

1376
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: don't understand like jay Z said, because the nigga wear

1377
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 4: coofy don't mean that he.

1378
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: You understand something.

1379
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: Cousins in the Bronx right now and Harlem right now

1380
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: that I swear to God, y'all, I'll sit on the

1381
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: corner with them, and three minutes them talking, I'm like,

1382
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: what the are you talking about?

1383
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: It's like, yo, b you know.

1384
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: Because the mathematics and this this is you know, like

1385
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Bro? Like this is going right? No,

1386
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't go you know, political prisoners and the mathematics?

1387
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: How was this? John's so I just want to personally,

1388
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: He's saying, plays off listen, I am listen listen.

1389
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: I am illmatic the album I know them, but worth word,

1390
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 4: I am allmatic, like with all those albums. But I'm

1391
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: saying after a while, it got to the point where

1392
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: it was like you're still going deeper into that, like

1393
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 4: it's it's.

1394
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: It's it's you got to be ready to listen, Like, okay,

1395
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: you listen to you.

1396
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: You don't want to watch listen and I want to Okay,

1397
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: at night, every night I go to sleep, I gotta

1398
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: go sleep to a movie.

1399
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: I have to, But like I can't go to sleep

1400
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 5: to Malcolm.

1401
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: X The Nerve. But I'm so conscious, gosh, wait a minute,

1402
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: you know what the problem is, ship, But I don't

1403
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: want to go to sleep So what do you think

1404
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: about three thousands? Yeah, you talk about three thousand. He's incredible, right,

1405
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: you're not going to sleep to love below. No, he

1406
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: played the music. You got a whole album playing the

1407
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: fullest of t If you if you are from Atlanta,

1408
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: if you are from Atlanta, you know.

1409
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: Andre three thousand. We all went to high school with them.

1410
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: Those are real Atlanta niggas. This new Atlanta is not.

1411
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 4: Andre is real Atlanta. He from the South Southwest. Like,

1412
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: it's just different. But your point is Andrea is ill.

1413
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 4: But I understand if he's in my top, but I

1414
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: honestly if he's.

1415
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: Not in yours.

1416
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: Like if you say Andre, if y'all told me Who

1417
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: Tang is bigger, that better than Outcast? As crazy as

1418
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 4: that sounds to me, I could respect it because I'm like,

1419
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 4: y'all was.

1420
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: On the block when Who Tang was out Like I

1421
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: got a cousin that was on the block. That sounds

1422
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: crazy to you. To me, Who Tank is better than Outcasts?

1423
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: To me, Outcast is the only group in history that

1424
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 4: every album went bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger to the

1425
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: last one.

1426
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: They want ten million and then they win Album of

1427
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: the Year. So it's numbers. No, it's our money. You

1428
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: can't buy a grammy baby, you can't buy that you

1429
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: that's your peers. What was the last it was the movie?

1430
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: No?

1431
01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: Well like the movie Joynesia. What was the name of

1432
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 2: the movie. I forgot stop it bigger, bigger to stop?

1433
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: Who take us? Never had a movie? I'm not saying that.

1434
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they did.

1435
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: Because I love method man, I love I respect and

1436
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: love wo. I just was in the South, so you

1437
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: gotta understand. I'm coming to New York when I'm fourteen

1438
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 4: and my cousin's playing me Biggie and tell me his

1439
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 4: new can they Biggie? And I'm going to the South

1440
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 4: and they playing around here. It's like it was just

1441
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 4: different in the South. They had the girl.

1442
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the outcas have they got classic album?

1443
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: Like nobody nobody going to block girl waiting on the

1444
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: block in New York. I don't want my girl on

1445
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: the block wearing Timmland Somebody, Yo, did you hear how

1446
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: did you hear what that nigga said last time? That verse?

1447
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 2: Why did you hear it? Bairl? When did the ladder?

1448
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: Where did the ladder take over? Hold hold did not

1449
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: Can we the na sing? Can we just stop the slander?

1450
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to say something.

1451
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: Can can we say that? I want to say this.

1452
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 4: I don't let me tell you what this land. Nod

1453
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 4: started as a guy in my show named Jack Danz

1454
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: who's from Queens. He calls himself the Queensiest nigga in history.

1455
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: That is not my right around? Does he not do

1456
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: everybody in the rule? So Jack is arguing with me

1457
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: about Nods like, I'm like, you crazy NOD verse andreds

1458
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? So I could spin any

1459
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: Andre verse the NOD verse. He's like you as person.

1460
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 4: Me, So then I would be on that and I'll

1461
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 4: tell everybody like, I know you name your son have

1462
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 4: the no, I'm not mistakens. I know you know a

1463
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: NODS verse. But like I'll challenge somebody like, oh b

1464
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, give me a NODS verse.

1465
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 6: I'm not the one see anybody's verses. That's just I'm

1466
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 6: justing how you feel growing up in New York City.

1467
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 6: You know in the nineties. Man, Okay, it was written.

1468
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 6: Itmatic Stealmatic, one of the greatest.

1469
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 7: First I'm one of the few people who believe it

1470
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 7: was written was his best album.

1471
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: That's me, really, that's me. I agree with that. It

1472
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: was written too, I am, and it was written. Oh no,

1473
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something in some places.

1474
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 4: I am.

1475
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: So this is we had this conflict. One of the

1476
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: best hip hop nights of my life.

1477
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Me and Shotty are having dinner with Nash and I'm

1478
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: telling him, Yo, it was written is a great album,

1479
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: Bill Maddick is the greatest hip hop album of all time?

1480
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, what you think I'm asking? We

1481
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: asking him and he's like, you know, it's like I mean,

1482
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: it's like right subjective. So we went on for about

1483
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: three hours. We haven't read wine.

1484
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 6: We go in.

1485
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 1: I'm telling them how that that album changed my life,

1486
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: Like he was the first person I wanted to be,

1487
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's different. It wasn't

1488
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: like I want to be Jordan. I wanted to be

1489
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: nas Right. And then about two months later we see

1490
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: him again at dinner. The same day we see him,

1491
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: I think Rollstone puts out the best hip hop albums

1492
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: of all time?

1493
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: What's number one?

1494
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 6: You know what?

1495
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 2: He was like, you got it? Armatic is a safe

1496
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: bet that's ninety percent seen.

1497
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: Fat every jail Mac is a safe bet, but it

1498
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: was written is a cultural favorite.

1499
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: What what? What what this I am having? I want

1500
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: to talk to the mayor.

1501
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 4: I am okay, yeah, I'm just making sure confused the

1502
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 4: albums like I ain't.

1503
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: It was Retten. I'm being honest. I mean on a

1504
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: Street Dreams, I gave the power, I fowered the world.

1505
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 7: It was like it was like a brand new Martial

1506
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 7: Laws style. It was written, was like great mastery.

1507
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: Of right, like fly yeah. Yeah. But you gotta understand

1508
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: when Big was like took home ready to die study ship.

1509
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: Now you some credit because it was written and I

1510
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: was flying suits all of that. It was elevation.

1511
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: Matic was grinding me in the lobby with all Matic

1512
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 4: was for manna's on the block and queens and.

1513
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I don't want to say niggas. You say,

1514
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: but I'm on the black dad. I'm trying to be

1515
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: trying to work, but men didn't sound right, so I

1516
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: gotta say niggas. But it was for niggas that was

1517
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: on the block, that was trying to get educated. You know,

1518
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: I know them, dude. It was in illmatic nobody.

1519
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: Here's the best wayscribe Allmatic is a portrait of New

1520
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: York City in the early nineties.

1521
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, And I wasn't there. I left in ninety

1522
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: left her ninety one. So it's like, it was whole

1523
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: question you left, So let's let's let's do this before.

1524
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: So these ag is from my neighborhood.

1525
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: They from my building, right, So I remember show Business

1526
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 4: a g drop, right, so you know you got that

1527
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 4: fa all this stuff. But I'm saying it was I

1528
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: was still young in it. I didn't get into hip hops.

1529
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 4: I was like, like really into it. So I was

1530
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: like fourteen and when our cast dropped, that should changed

1531
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 4: my life. It was like I told, I told, I

1532
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 4: pissed them off. I told them I think soul full

1533
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: goodie my bilbum. It made a more bigger impact on

1534
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: my life than allmadic me personally. He was wearing survice

1535
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 4: something good marble, talking about FBI surveillance and all of that.

1536
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: But it was slow. It was like the original Illuminati. Dudes. Yes,

1537
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: there was original speaking all right. I might I might

1538
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: have been a follow it. I might be. It's just wordy.

1539
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: By the way. I'm in the music business. I made

1540
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: my money from words.

1541
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 3: Let's do this let's balance the scales. We talked about

1542
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: New York, Let's talk about Atlanta. Please, what's your who's

1543
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: your own your Mount Ushmore in Atlanta?

1544
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: Uh? Out cast?

1545
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 4: That's as a group, that's that's one spot as a group.

1546
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 4: No one person gotta be one person. Oh well, Andre

1547
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 4: and Big Boy deserved to be half of it. That's spots.

1548
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna give it to I'm gonna give

1549
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 4: it to TII I think is the most important rapper

1550
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: in Atlanta history. Hip is the most important rapper in

1551
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 4: Atlanta history. And then I'm gonna give the fourth one

1552
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 4: to future?

1553
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: So why are we disrespecting Jez? And We're not? We

1554
01:08:53,000 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: have we forgotten that. You have to figure I didn't

1555
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: have Outcasts too.

1556
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 4: It would have been between Gez and Chris because I

1557
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 4: see a lot of people forgetting I see a lot

1558
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 4: of people forget Gez.

1559
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: Like they're talking about Gucci. Look, I like Gucci. Gucci

1560
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: didn't have no relevance in up here. Well, when I

1561
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 3: was in school in Baltimore, when Trap one O one

1562
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: came out, Yes, yo, y'all.

1563
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Does not have an album better than Thumb Motivation one

1564
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: on one. Look, this is a real story. Yeah, it

1565
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: does not have an album better when trapped.

1566
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 7: When the Motivation one on one came out that night,

1567
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 7: I listened to it with my man in this car,

1568
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 7: and by the end of the night I was in

1569
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: a crack spot.

1570
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so let me tell you, Okay, let me

1571
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: tell you.

1572
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 4: So, let me let me tell you something, like you know,

1573
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 4: like you're not in New York, like like you know

1574
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 4: New York, like certain guys here, like madter to y'all,

1575
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: like you know in New York, like certain guys matter here.

1576
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 4: Like it's like Math has a reputation where it's like

1577
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 4: he just said, I'm walk in the middle of your project,

1578
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: call you outside and fight you for that, Like nigga,

1579
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 4: what are you talking about?

1580
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: Like you get killed.

1581
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 4: That's how he moves, right, So New York has different

1582
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: ways of moving and Atlanta is different most people.

1583
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: Gez is Atlanta, but he you got to understand, like I.

1584
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: Would just set a me and Shakazulu shot at the

1585
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: shock that he calls me like, yo, wady, come roll

1586
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 4: me to this little thing I'm doing.

1587
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: I go and down.

1588
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 5: See tip.

1589
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: Tip is the city he cares about the city. GenZ

1590
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 4: moved a way out for a little while and then

1591
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 4: he came back. But gz gz is more like trenched,

1592
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 4: and Ez is more like he is, but from like

1593
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 4: a I'm a ball outside smoking sabar on me.

1594
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: Tip. It's like what they might want to somebody trying

1595
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: to kill himself. Bad Tip is like.

1596
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: You know, because I'm like, yo, all these like even

1597
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: twenty one Savage when he was talking after that versus battle,

1598
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: twenty one Savage was on clubhouse like yo, I never like,

1599
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 3: we ain't listen to Jez. We listening to Gucci. Gucci

1600
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: is the dude. But they was like, you got to

1601
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: understand when Jeezi was at his peak, he ain't do

1602
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: songs with He didn't come to that with Gucci to

1603
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: the exact opposite Gucci.

1604
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: This song with me gooes. They did song with the

1605
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: Young twenty one.

1606
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 3: So they have a reverence for him because he extended

1607
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 3: himself with Jeez was more close, and he did songs

1608
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 3: with his crew, but that crew didn't really go anywhere.

1609
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 3: So it's like the reverence for him in Atlanta is

1610
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 3: going to be different because he didn't put his.

1611
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: Arms around the whole entire thing's.

1612
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: On the restaurant, yep, Jiz well, if outcast could be one,

1613
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 4: I think about him, but you gotta look at it.

1614
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 4: I think ourcast ran the nineties, Tip ran the two

1615
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 4: thousands up until and then Future took over around twenty

1616
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: twelve and has been running.

1617
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: So to me, it's like those three they both was

1618
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: running it. Gz was Jesus in that and that. Yah no, no, no, listen,

1619
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: I undert what y'all saying. But y'all, y'all looking at Atlanta, Atlanta,

1620
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm talking about in the city. You gotta understand something.

1621
01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: Y'all gott to.

1622
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 4: Stay some Tip crew, Doug Clay who passed away like

1623
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 4: this crew, they that's our city. Like you ain't gonna

1624
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 4: go nowhere and see somebody from Tip's crew. You're not

1625
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 4: gonna see nobody with Giz nowhere. It's almost like how

1626
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: they how how they talk about how master P and

1627
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: bird Man was in New Orleans, Like master P was

1628
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 4: like the outside guy that was putting New Orleans on

1629
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 4: the map, but he was messing with West Coast people

1630
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 4: when Baby was the homegrown. Tip is the home grown

1631
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 4: Atlanta and Jeezi was from Making he came to Atlanta.

1632
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 4: We embraced him because Atlanta is like that and then

1633
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: but he he left when he got popping, he moved him.

1634
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he lived in Atlanta. Now

1635
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: it's like it's like.

1636
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: If you would say Dip said versus French Montana, like

1637
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: French Montana, Sol Larcus and all.

1638
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: But way bigger. He's east in l A. He's not

1639
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: like you're gonna see Jim Jones at one time and

1640
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: that and that's what makes you love him more.

1641
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 4: So that's why I would say ti I because tis

1642
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: most important artist. But I think the best musical artist

1643
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 4: from Atlanta outside of Outcast's future. Now, I think he

1644
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: passed tip about little Baby. It's too too early, and

1645
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 4: and and I would say, so this how I look

1646
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 4: at it. As big as Thug is, as fire as

1647
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: Thug is, I still will put Thug as the one

1648
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: bet on the futures one A for their generation because

1649
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: remember I was Futures A and R at the point

1650
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 4: he was trying to sign Thug. So I remember we was.

1651
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 4: I got hit with a season desist from Warner like

1652
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: y'all can't. So the future was on before Thug. That's

1653
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 4: why I got to give him that because paint the way. Yeah,

1654
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 4: he paid the way, but thug influence is crazy. But

1655
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: Future to me musically passed them past. Tip to me,

1656
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: I think it's just it's just it's just it had

1657
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 4: like most artists is this, most artists is really this.

1658
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 4: His has been kind of this. So he he's gotten

1659
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: bigger every year compared to like, you know, Tips, and

1660
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 4: he puts out music all the time. And that's another thing,

1661
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 4: is like, that's why I had to give it to

1662
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: musically because Tip, to me, his music is an age

1663
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 4: as gracefully as as Jez's did to me. But like

1664
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: like I'm a music guy, like I loved and I'm

1665
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: always like in the studio, like what you want to make?

1666
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: Like who would you remake? Who? Sound?

1667
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: Jez sound is more today. But Tip is just the

1668
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 4: guy like too important nigga, the crips, the bloods. If

1669
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 4: you a street nigga, if you anything in Atlanta, if

1670
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: you're a governor of you anything, you probably know Tip

1671
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 4: of got his number. He's that much to the city.

1672
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 4: And that's why we love slid salad both of them,

1673
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: salad both of them. But he just he can't like

1674
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 4: it's a kid like the mayor. I remember when when

1675
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: when the when the pandemic happened and they was doing

1676
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 4: the riots. When the little girl got killed at that Wendy's.

1677
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: The mayor went on TV and said, Tip killer, Mike,

1678
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: get down here, like it's like, those are our guys.

1679
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 4: So Tip is that and he's killing Mike's side. So

1680
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 4: that's why I got to give it to him and

1681
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: kill him. I don't get enough credit. I'm gonna say

1682
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 4: that every chance like that. He's one of the greatest

1683
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 4: to ever do it. But we don't give him credit

1684
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 4: because it came later in life.

1685
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: He was on the Ottawa sont but it came later.

1686
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: That's how I started. By the way, we can argue ody,

1687
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: I told you that's debatable with y'all want to argue

1688
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: with y'all got do that?

1689
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 4: We got because like like because I understand what y'all saying.

1690
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 4: But I think that's the thing about hip hop. We

1691
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: don't allow hip hop to be It's almost like it's

1692
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 4: New York's no hit me out real quick. Let me

1693
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 4: tell what I mean.

1694
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is like, like, y'all, remember

1695
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing a podcast in the South.

1696
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 4: Every time I speak on East Coast hip hop, ship

1697
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 4: your country.

1698
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna read the comments country as up.

1699
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1700
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I don't have an opinion on it.

1701
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: I say future, He's what like Atlanta's been in for

1702
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 2: twenty years.

1703
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: Of culture, but y'all owned the conversation. Atlanta has the culture.

1704
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: New York holds the conversation. Whatever New York say is

1705
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 4: what's going. It matters if we say something in Atlanta,

1706
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: it don't matter, like.

1707
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 7: All right, So would you allow, like, uh, somebody that

1708
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 7: runs like a dojo in Atlanta to tell like Jojo kari?

1709
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1710
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 7: What you allow like somebody has a dojo in Atlanta

1711
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 7: to tell a shallon monk like you ain't kicking run.

1712
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: So he just called Atlanta and monks monks as what

1713
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I get it, I get it. I'm mad

1714
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: at it. But you can't get mad when Atlanta starts

1715
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: talking feeling like they that Atlanta. Thank you, bro, But

1716
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: that's twenty twenty five. Atlanta, like Japanese, was the Chinese

1717
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: like samurai? And what do you think about the winners competition?

1718
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: Right right right? I want I want the favorite yo.

1719
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: He shut it.

1720
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 5: He shut it down with one rhyme from New York.

1721
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 4: Listen I'm asking listen, I expect nobody from Atlanta coming

1722
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 4: there with hibar lot of you.

1723
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 2: I spend nobody from Atlanta to coming no ball, It's crazy.

1724
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: I expect him coming from Here's the.

1725
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: Beauty of what you guys are doing, right, Okay, because

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Speaker 1: yes there is one winner, but technically everybody that's on

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Speaker 1: is a winner, right because they're getting the platform to

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Speaker 1: showcase their talent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about the platform. It's about it's about showcasing yourself. Like,

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Speaker 4: That's what I want artists to understand. It's not always

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 4: about being the full package. Sometimes it's about just saying,

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Speaker 4: here's a little bit of what I do. What you

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 4: think the world like, That's how I started. My first

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 4: six months of putting up content was on a cell phone,

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01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: and everybody I want people was like, y'all love your podcast.

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01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even have a pot. I'm just

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 4: putting content on. I wouldn't even put it on YouTube.

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 4: It was just on Instagram. So you know, you just

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 4: got to start where you are. That's why I was

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01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 4: doing it, Like, just go in there and just rap.

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 4: If you could wrap, you don't need no beat, just wrap.

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01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 4: Give the audience a chance, and I'll hope somebody from

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01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: this gets signed.

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make that happen. When is it? When is

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: the visuals of what you're doing? How are you gonna

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: put this together? For one absolutely ig? Right now?

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 6: At the cutout you can go and find like the

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 6: competitors for every city, and then we have another ig

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 6: off the top freestyle specifically for this competition.

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: And that's what we're about.

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Speaker 6: The flood, all the competition, all the competition's uh content,

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 6: so you can see it. And honestly, like I said,

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01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 6: like there's some incredible artists here, somebody's gotta get.

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Speaker 4: Signed, Like I swear, bro if I was in it,

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01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: I sign them right now. If I was in it,

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 4: like right now, that kid is incredible. Any that will

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 4: surprise us, I want you to under stay, but guess what,

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01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make the music.

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Speaker 2: That's what I do. We'll call Nelly and see if

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: you get ready for us. Hope that you can't. I

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Speaker 2: hope he can.

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,520
Speaker 4: Nellie's fire shouting ten million records from from Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Country and Nellyville, and he got a bunch of the

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Speaker 1: album ships right sign.

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Speaker 2: In the world. That's not type Leve if say something that.

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Speaker 4: Nelly was from west Chester, if Nelly was from Young Beer,

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: he was anything in New York, Nelly would be considered

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: one of the greats of all time.

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Speaker 2: And he deserves him doing units and pimp Juice and

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Speaker 2: us the best he got Jake, by the way, shout

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Speaker 2: the whole give he's one. He's a He's a legend.

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Speaker 3: As far as his being selling legend, it doesn't always

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Speaker 3: equate to being respected as the best rapp bur.

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Speaker 5: Can you I want your found on that a little bit?

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Speaker 6: Can you?

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Speaker 4: I mean that he's I want him just found that.

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Speaker 4: You're right, but I would love to hear you your reasoning.

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Speaker 2: Can I can? I can punch? I need you here.

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Speaker 2: It's not how many records did Ice Ice Baby So,

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Speaker 2: Ice Ice Baby so to white white babies. You can't

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Speaker 2: to white white babych He was like third Baby, two Legit.

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: Quit sold a lot of rep.

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Speaker 4: And then guess what, as soon as he started that,

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 4: he was off to the races to go over there.

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Speaker 2: You watch the movie. When you see the.

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Speaker 4: Movie, you see when he's performed two Legit, you know

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01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 4: he was performing white people too.

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: So sometimes it's not that and Nelly wasn't that's a

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Speaker 2: see it is like a nigga that hard. That was good.

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Speaker 4: That was good, But you know, Nelly had Nelly. Nelly

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 4: still came from Saint Louis, where nobody cared about him.

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 4: So he had to do a lot more than than

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 4: just make a good song. He had to prove he

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01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: deserved to be here, and he's one of the best

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Speaker 4: songwriter artists in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit harlem for a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: He did, by the way, a couple of years. Listen,

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Speaker 4: that's watching this. Everybody should live in New York. Everybody

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01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 4: should live in New York for one of two years,

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Speaker 4: because it's going to make your ass harder than you

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Speaker 4: ever been.

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Speaker 2: They ain't gonna say hello to you. They don't care

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01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 2: if you're getting robbed on the train. It's not my business.

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01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: It's not your watch.

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 6: That is over.

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: You will be next. You are next.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna tough for you. So New York is good

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 3: for that. But you know, gentlemen, this has been a

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Speaker 3: very fun conensation. Absolutely, let them know where they can

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Speaker 3: find the information in regard to watching the content, and

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01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: then each individual, all of your socials.

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Speaker 2: What y'all got going on? So they can.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, like, you can go find all the

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Speaker 6: content at the cut out on I G TikTok all platforms.

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Speaker 6: The freestyle competition itself is off the top dot freestyles

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01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 6: and yeah, we're gonna post all that stuff like this Friday,

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Speaker 6: so yeah, please come watch it. Like I said, slug

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Speaker 6: o deja, I mean, we have some really fire content.

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Speaker 2: And absolute absolutely and then the individual and for.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah follow me mister underscore obi wan o b

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Speaker 6: I w A N Yeah, all platforms.

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Speaker 4: You can say he's smart. I'm just wreak down. I'm

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01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 4: listening to talking. I'm like, I know your ship. I'm

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Speaker 4: still like, which is.

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Speaker 2: That's hard? That's what it felt. I know what it meant.

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01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I thought it was like your whole name

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Speaker 2: all got Star Wars take It, Hard, Fire and Math.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: Where can we watch?

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01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: We can watch episodes now right, even though you're not

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01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: in the shop currently, we still can watch.

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Speaker 7: You can still watch episodes interviewed. Yes, and that that

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Speaker 7: did pretty good. That did pretty good. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 7: eager to get back in the shot. I love the shot.

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Speaker 5: We need m e O back, Yes, definitely get you back.

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 5: I need the other opinions in the room.

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Speaker 2: Bring back get it Hi God, thank you for rockmos

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Speaker 2: to see next week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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Speaker 8: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

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Speaker 8: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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Speaker 8: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 8: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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Speaker 8: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States

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Speaker 8: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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Speaker 8: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 8: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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Speaker 8: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly

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Speaker 8: one thousand dollars a day. Imprisoned and deported, you will

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Speaker 8: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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Speaker 8: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 8: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,

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Speaker 8: border and families.

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Speaker 2: Will be protected. Sponsored by the United States Department of

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security,