Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. It doesn't care too much about
Speaker 1: what others thing. Welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hans As. I
Speaker 1: come to you from a virtual room field with some heroes.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. You know, this was one of
Speaker 1: the great like shots of my career. Occurred um on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night doing my assignment, which I've been doing since
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, writing Hard Knocks. You, Ricky, do you
Speaker 1: have the clip from Hard Knocks this week? I want
Speaker 1: a lot more. That guy's gonna blow up this year,
Speaker 1: Mark my words, take him in your fantasy drafts. I'll
Speaker 1: go with a guy who has it. Um Ceedee Lamb. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was the old Zooster's voice talking about Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: And it was a taken from the Around the NFL broadcast,
Speaker 1: And it was Mark in the shot and Connie in
Speaker 1: the shot and Greg not in the shot. So let's
Speaker 1: just break it down there. Um, very cool that a
Speaker 1: t N made Hard Knocks. That felt like a real
Speaker 1: career achievement. Greg. I do feel bad about the timing
Speaker 1: of it because you're not someone who takes a lot
Speaker 1: of vacation. That was that is that one show. Yeh
Speaker 1: never will never will visit my parents again. Um, that
Speaker 1: half of that second on Hard Knocks. I think it'll
Speaker 1: It's just the first of many though. Um you you
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's great. So you know you
Speaker 1: you got the you got the big talk, you got
Speaker 1: the voke, you know you got the words out there.
Speaker 1: That's the big spot. So next time we'll be back
Speaker 1: on that again. I don't want to be like the like, Um,
Speaker 1: I saw someone in your mentions very upset like they
Speaker 1: were not it. That's a bad that's a bad look.
Speaker 1: Who is someone just a street person on? Someone else? No,
Speaker 1: within our company on the talent side. Because Patrick claiban
Speaker 1: another friend of the show, had we got a camera.
Speaker 1: Not only did Claibron get um on the show, he
Speaker 1: was actually because he was on the scene at camp
Speaker 1: and they had the tight shot on Claibroon's beautiful face.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy, handsome man. It's almost annoying how
Speaker 1: good looking Patrick is in addition to nice and smart
Speaker 1: and good at his job. But I'm in the weeds
Speaker 1: awesome the clay Bonn. Is there someone else at the
Speaker 1: company that works with the company that was at that
Speaker 1: camp has yet to get on the show. I have
Speaker 1: to ask you. Let's get Jane on the show. Get
Speaker 1: Jane's later on the show Hard Knocks producers. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we're gonna bring it up. It's true, she's been
Speaker 1: covering them. You want if you're if you're covering them,
Speaker 1: you you're looking for that shot where you like asked
Speaker 1: the question at the press. Let's get Jane on too. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll ask her like how mad she actually is? I
Speaker 1: want to find that out. What's that? Mark? Well? No,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, let you know, you have
Speaker 1: been extremely pro Hard Knocks. Um. I have been, if anything,
Speaker 1: milk toast in my reaction to Hard Knocks from its inception.
Speaker 1: What if they had grabbed a sound bite where I
Speaker 1: happened to be saying something about ceedee lamb, with you
Speaker 1: sitting there and not saying a word, what would have
Speaker 1: happened to? What would what would how would would we
Speaker 1: have handled that? I think I would have been talking
Speaker 1: about this right now. It would be would show It
Speaker 1: would be like when the NFL network did a commercial
Speaker 1: of Around the NFL and Dan didn't have a speaking
Speaker 1: line in that commercial and he immediately complained about it.
Speaker 1: I never complained to anyone outside of you guys, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't believed. Well, suddenly there was a new ad
Speaker 1: like a fortnight later, so it's maybe it was just
Speaker 1: mystical powers. But I will say this, Mark, how does it?
Speaker 1: That had to be a bit bitter sweet for you
Speaker 1: because it is the show you hate more than any
Speaker 1: other show in the world. So if you're face to
Speaker 1: be on it had to be something like, it's cool
Speaker 1: that I'm out there, but I also I hate this
Speaker 1: show so much. Number one, I don't hate it, but
Speaker 1: my dislike for it certainly lessons when they're featuring me
Speaker 1: on it. I'm cozying up to it. Um, I'm going
Speaker 1: to watch it again. It's product. Maybe they're listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast and they're like, we know how to get
Speaker 1: Sessler smart. You know, let's go Rams, invite me to
Speaker 1: some games, bring me into your luxury suitets. You know,
Speaker 1: everything will start to change. Um coming up. So that
Speaker 1: was cool though, that was very cool. You know what
Speaker 1: else is called Connor Or that's our buddy. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been on the show in a minute. He will be
Speaker 1: on the on the show today when we uh unveil
Speaker 1: Team slogans for the two thousand one seasons season. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of fun. But before that,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. I have a big legal file
Speaker 1: full of newspaper articles of why I was breaking up
Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals about ten or fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Broke up with a team. Yeah, well, I feel like
Speaker 1: they kind of left me at the altar and gave
Speaker 1: me no choice. If they're not gonna love me, why
Speaker 1: would I love him back? Don't want to be Charlie Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like Charlie Brown. Oh man, it's
Speaker 1: so good to hear West's voice. Uh. And that, of
Speaker 1: course ties back to the major development earlier this week
Speaker 1: when you told the story about Chris Westling's divorcing the
Speaker 1: Bengals dossier that Lakisha rescued out of a trash been
Speaker 1: at NFL network headquarters. Uh last week, And yes, we wondered.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show, Greg, like, when
Speaker 1: did we even start talking about the dossier? We brought
Speaker 1: it up for the first time and forever last week
Speaker 1: and it ended up being a faithful reference. But way
Speaker 1: back it was indeed the first year of the show
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. Yeah, one of our listeners pointed
Speaker 1: out it should have been around October. He found a
Speaker 1: tweet of years and uh, we'll have a nice little
Speaker 1: a nice little ending to our show here. Our listeners
Speaker 1: can can wait for a little call back there, I
Speaker 1: would saying. I said to Erica, Uh, yesterday, it was
Speaker 1: just so nice to hear Wes's voice. I don't think
Speaker 1: we've played his voice on the show since, uh, since
Speaker 1: he passed. So I'm sure the listeners enjoyed that as well.
Speaker 1: And as Greg said, we'll play a little bit of
Speaker 1: a longer clip of West talking about his dossier at
Speaker 1: the end of today's show. All right, let's get to
Speaker 1: the news. Um, let's start with some crushing injury news
Speaker 1: from my beloved New York Jets. It surrounds Carl Lawson.
Speaker 1: Unblockable in training camp, in other organized team activities. He
Speaker 1: seemed to be the guy that was going to break
Speaker 1: yes that streak. The Jets have not had a big
Speaker 1: time premiere pass rusher since John Abraham left in two
Speaker 1: thousand six, and Lawson was gonna be that guy and
Speaker 1: be the key for Robert Salo's defense. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think so anymore because Lawson, during a joint practice with
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, heard of pop in as Achilles
Speaker 1: carded off the field. We're waiting as the as we
Speaker 1: record this for the results of that. Mr. I, but
Speaker 1: it does not sound good. So Blossom signs of three
Speaker 1: or forty five million dollar contract in free agency, and
Speaker 1: it looks like his first year with the Jets might
Speaker 1: not ever get off the ground, and I am dead
Speaker 1: inside summer. I mean, you look at like I don't
Speaker 1: want to be around anymore. It is because I don't
Speaker 1: know like I love this signing when it happened. I
Speaker 1: loved everything I heard about him this uh training camp
Speaker 1: and off season. I thought he was undervalued as much
Speaker 1: money as they paid him. I thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be one of those free agent deals that ends
Speaker 1: up being even better than you think. As we're taping this,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned Dan, we are still waiting for final word.
Speaker 1: Usually these things don't go well when they think it's
Speaker 1: going in a certain direction. I tried to ask around,
Speaker 1: and I think there was some question whether there could
Speaker 1: be a better scenario than than the worst case. But
Speaker 1: we'll see. And it's a killer for them because I
Speaker 1: think they need that defensive line to make up for
Speaker 1: the secondary. It's him specifically, right your your coverage is
Speaker 1: gonna be as good, I think as your front end
Speaker 1: or vice versa. And we know the back end of
Speaker 1: the Jets defense has problems, so they needed the front
Speaker 1: line to make up for it. And and if Lawson
Speaker 1: is out for the year, that that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot tougher. When you get Joe Douglas credit because he
Speaker 1: put a lot of money into loss and to solve
Speaker 1: that eternal pass rushing void. But he's put a lot
Speaker 1: of money into c. J. Mosley too. There's been terrible
Speaker 1: luck with these big name players that they've brought in
Speaker 1: to alter their defense. And you know when they talk
Speaker 1: about Achilles a lot of times, like you know, I
Speaker 1: saw a tweet from someone who is an on field
Speaker 1: trainer that says, you know right away you'll go get
Speaker 1: the m R. I but yeah, just you just you know,
Speaker 1: And so I imagine they do. And it's you know,
Speaker 1: I know that you have to do these practices, we
Speaker 1: have to do these preseason games. But I start more
Speaker 1: and more to side with these coaches that just keep
Speaker 1: their star players out of as much action as possible.
Speaker 1: It's tougher for the Jets. They're learning a new scheme.
Speaker 1: You know, Lawson is in a new scheme, Canice. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that. I just the one thing that I
Speaker 1: find annoying for specifically like a hard, hard bitten Jets
Speaker 1: fan base, is that you're sort of waiting around four
Speaker 1: killer news to arrive before week one, and it just
Speaker 1: seems like every couple of days there's one of these
Speaker 1: and you know, yes, you have to practice. But last
Speaker 1: year there was a lot less of this and it
Speaker 1: was fine. Sheldon Rankins was carted off too, but there
Speaker 1: wasn't less injuries. In fact, I hate I don't want
Speaker 1: to spit in the sky, as your mom would say,
Speaker 1: dan Um, But I was thinking how this training camp
Speaker 1: has been thankfully devoid of a lot of major injuries.
Speaker 1: So was the first week of the preseason, and I
Speaker 1: I am a little more of the school in terms
Speaker 1: of even playing preseason players like the Patriots and some
Speaker 1: other teams do that. It's like it's fun. Ultimately, you
Speaker 1: have to play football to like play football, and whether
Speaker 1: it happens now or in Week one or Week three,
Speaker 1: like it, it's terrible for the the team and for
Speaker 1: the player, and there's there's no way to avoid it.
Speaker 1: I do think there's there's something to the fact of
Speaker 1: like the way the players trained and how muscular and
Speaker 1: big they are now, maybe that does lead to more
Speaker 1: of these types of injuries then used to happen in
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties, which if you go look at
Speaker 1: the numbers that you really there really are. But that's
Speaker 1: that's something you can't avoid. I don't know what you
Speaker 1: do about that. Um No, it's it's not fun being
Speaker 1: a Jets fan. And I'm not going to turn this
Speaker 1: into a pity party, but it's Sheldon Rankins was also
Speaker 1: carted off today too, and he's a guy with an
Speaker 1: injury history who they're hoping to start. Uh it didn't
Speaker 1: sound as serious, but he did have a pretty serious,
Speaker 1: possibly serious injury. I just I don't know, man, It's
Speaker 1: just like sometimes it just makes you wonder. It's it's
Speaker 1: just how does it always happen to the Jets? And
Speaker 1: and he did. And Joe Douglas was not responsible responsible
Speaker 1: for the C. J. Mosley signing. That was Mike mccagnet.
Speaker 1: But it was the same deal where Mike H C J.
Speaker 1: Mosley signed this big contract, came over from the Ravens,
Speaker 1: was the star of training camp, was absolutely dominant in
Speaker 1: his first game in Week one, and then popped his
Speaker 1: groin and missed the entire year with it, and then
Speaker 1: opted out last year and it's just been like okay,
Speaker 1: So that didn't work lost in the same thing, dominant
Speaker 1: throughout training camp for him now to go it. Every
Speaker 1: Jet fan knows that you're the ceiling on your season,
Speaker 1: which already wasn't high, necessarily just went down um significantly
Speaker 1: because he was kind of the janga piece of everything
Speaker 1: Solids trying to do, and they'll be trying to play
Speaker 1: catch up all year as a result. So I just
Speaker 1: curious to see Mosley. By the way, we haven't mentioned c. J.
Speaker 1: Mosley in a long time. I am curious to see
Speaker 1: him this year. This was one of one of the
Speaker 1: best inside linebackers in the league at one point, and
Speaker 1: he will be playing on this Jets team, so I
Speaker 1: am curious that he could give them a little bit
Speaker 1: of a boost there. One star of the Jets pass
Speaker 1: that I also didn't work out as Jamal Adams. He
Speaker 1: has now signed a new contract with the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: This went down a little earlier in the week. It's
Speaker 1: four years, seventy million dollars, very good money for Adams,
Speaker 1: who uh is now, as expected, the highest paid safety
Speaker 1: UM in the NFL. UM and it is not I
Speaker 1: guess it's not at the level money wise as the
Speaker 1: true superstars UM might get. But that's I guess a
Speaker 1: product of his position and it doesn't really matter. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks needed to get this guy back on the field,
Speaker 1: and now he's there and he's paid and they can
Speaker 1: go forward. Like there's like a lot of negative reaction
Speaker 1: to this, uh that you know, I get that Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams um is a little ponderous and you know, seems
Speaker 1: to always be talking about money, but that's also like
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the players in my book. But he's
Speaker 1: getting paid less than Darius Leonard, as we mentioned on
Speaker 1: our network show, who got twenty million a year, and
Speaker 1: like everyone glowed over that year that deal and looks
Speaker 1: at the Cults front office is forward thinking And yes,
Speaker 1: I get the Seahawks were kind of jammed into this.
Speaker 1: That's the part I don't like is that they kind
Speaker 1: of just got stuck into this thing where let's say
Speaker 1: he had declined last year. I think they still would
Speaker 1: have been kind of hamstrung to overpay him, but he
Speaker 1: made a big difference on the field last year. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is a great player if he's put in the
Speaker 1: right position. I don't hate the contract. It's not that
Speaker 1: much money for someone who could be the center of
Speaker 1: their defense. Safeties are underpaid. I thought they had a good,
Speaker 1: team friendly contract. If you really look at the true guarantees,
Speaker 1: it's closer to twenty million. I mean, it's actually almost
Speaker 1: shocking how little it is compared to some of the
Speaker 1: tackles that signed, like Nate Soldier had a much better
Speaker 1: contract than Jamal Adams signing with the Giants years ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: safeties just do not get paid. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: good safeties who are about to become free agent, Tyrone, Matthew, Jesse, Bates,
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, Marcus Made and they're gonna all slot in
Speaker 1: probably under Jamal Adams. So I think it's a good bargain.
Speaker 1: He's a unique player who I think has a coaching
Speaker 1: staff too, who will know how to use him and
Speaker 1: kind of max him out the next few years. And
Speaker 1: other injury news, bad injury news, no injury news is
Speaker 1: good injury news. Tevin Jenkins, the second round draft pick
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears, who slated to be there starting
Speaker 1: left tackle, well, he has probably done for the year
Speaker 1: after lingering back issues have now led to back surgery,
Speaker 1: and the Bears hope to have him back this season,
Speaker 1: but that could be overly optimistic, and now the team
Speaker 1: is scrambling UH to find a replacement. Jason Peters, the
Speaker 1: long time and I say long time tackle of the
Speaker 1: Eagles who was on the street turning forty in January.
Speaker 1: He has been added to the roster as a potential
Speaker 1: UH fill in, But the Bears will be scrambling now,
Speaker 1: especially after deciding not to bring back Charles Leno, the
Speaker 1: incumbent tackle of a year ago. Bad news for Chicago.
Speaker 1: They cut Leno, who played every snap practically the last
Speaker 1: handful of years at a solid enough level and he
Speaker 1: was at a below market contract. It didn't make sense
Speaker 1: of the time we first guessed that one, Like I
Speaker 1: we talked about that, like why are why are they
Speaker 1: cutting Charles Leno? Exactly like you want to have an
Speaker 1: extra tackle, and a lot of times after the draft
Speaker 1: you slot in these rookies just like Okay, that bombs set. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's our second round pick left tackle solved.
Speaker 1: It's like it doesn't aid that he might not play
Speaker 1: that well and then be something like this could happen,
Speaker 1: and it felt like an unforced there considering the other
Speaker 1: guys that they're paying a lot of money, like Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham on this roster. Fine with you, it's like you definitely,
Speaker 1: I think you need to see tackles over the course
Speaker 1: of their at least their first season to get a
Speaker 1: really good picture of who they are. And this was
Speaker 1: a player with known back issues. They trade up for him,
Speaker 1: the back issues of a different variety. Now um show up.
Speaker 1: I get super concerning, like, yeah, he probably won't play
Speaker 1: this year, but in general, like back issues for a tackle,
Speaker 1: um don't. And you know that's not something that's gonna
Speaker 1: just fade away in five minutes. Like the Bears have
Speaker 1: done some very questionable things. I think justin Fields helped
Speaker 1: them out hugely from a Q rating angle, But that
Speaker 1: front office is lucky to still be around. I wonder
Speaker 1: if this makes them more worried about playing fields or
Speaker 1: you could say less because you want them all quarterback
Speaker 1: at some point. I mean it shouldn't really have an impact.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I'm a Justin Fields fan, I'm
Speaker 1: a little concerned about it. I'd always be more worried
Speaker 1: about playing Andy Dalton. But I hear you and happy
Speaker 1: trails to Tim Tebow cut loose by the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: So that was a thing and now it's no longer
Speaker 1: a thing. And also Josh Rosen, the former number ten
Speaker 1: overall pick a couple of years back, who was not
Speaker 1: playing well with the forty niners and couldn't even win
Speaker 1: the third string backup jobs. So two former first round
Speaker 1: pick picks head into the sunset. That is what's happening
Speaker 1: in the news. Hey you guys, um, I actually have
Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey like on the line. He's like here,
Speaker 1: what little Jay little day in the house. Okay, joking, No,
Speaker 1: like right now, I'm gonna put him in, Okay, Oh Ricky,
Speaker 1: look at you, Ricky. Al right here we go. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is exciting, excellent work. Ricky now joining us the
Speaker 1: new Orleans Saints wide receiver, former Texas Star wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and now he's looking to make a big impact in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Little Jordan Humphrey, welcome to the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Hey, thanks for having me, Thanks for having Okay,
Speaker 1: So alright, so this podcast is stupid sometimes and we
Speaker 1: we fall down these wormholes that we struggle to dig
Speaker 1: out of. And um as as you see perhaps right now, um,
Speaker 1: I'm Dan, that's Mark, that's Greg. Those are three of
Speaker 1: the most boring white guy names and imaginable. And then
Speaker 1: there's a little Jordan Humphrey, who to me has the
Speaker 1: best name in the NFL going right now, and did
Speaker 1: the research? Your mom gave it to you. Correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Your mom gave you the name. It's
Speaker 1: not a nickname, it's a full name because your older
Speaker 1: brother said, name him Michael Jordan's and your mom was like, well,
Speaker 1: let's slow down to pump the brakes on an MJ situation.
Speaker 1: Little Jordan it is? Is that all check out? Or
Speaker 1: is Wikipedia failing me? That's correct? That's correct? All right? Cool? So, like,
Speaker 1: do you go by little Jordan's? What are your teammates
Speaker 1: call you? I'm just out of here, it's start there.
Speaker 1: I mean I go by Little Jordan LJ. Most people
Speaker 1: call me LJ because you know it just I get
Speaker 1: the question all the time. That's your real name, that's
Speaker 1: your real name, everything nickname. But I just go by
Speaker 1: LJ to keep it short and simple, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a little jordin real name. I love to go by that,
Speaker 1: but I just keep it, you know what I mean? Normal?
Speaker 1: Do you run into trouble? Let's say, if you were,
Speaker 1: like you know, applying for like a lease car, or
Speaker 1: maybe if you at some point we're looking to get
Speaker 1: a job and had to write little Jordans in like
Speaker 1: the very official boxed piece of paper. Are they saying
Speaker 1: what's going on here with us? I mean, luckily I
Speaker 1: haven't had to like fill out any job applications for
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean, and deal with that.
Speaker 1: But other than that, like I run into any problem,
Speaker 1: I just look at it. I showed my I D
Speaker 1: you know, and just it's an easy process. Uh. But
Speaker 1: I was on his I das it's got to be
Speaker 1: for an. I mean, you could you could take it
Speaker 1: two ways, like you your name is a little Jordan Humphrey.
Speaker 1: You gotta carry that on your shoulders, you know, like
Speaker 1: you could either back down or you could become like
Speaker 1: a U T legend and and be making this saint game.
Speaker 1: So it might it must have given you something to
Speaker 1: live up to. Fact you did it definitely did. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's just that mother interversion, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, she thinks she saw something special. I mean
Speaker 1: when she had so you know, so said your mom
Speaker 1: start to get worried when you kept growing, because this
Speaker 1: is the thing that's really been tripping me up, the
Speaker 1: six foot four things. And it's like everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be tall. Every guy wants to be tall. We don't
Speaker 1: all get to be taking. To speak for yourself, I'm
Speaker 1: loving five five. Look at my happy life, beautiful wife,
Speaker 1: like great career. It it suits me. Greg. Greg always
Speaker 1: wanted to be five and a half feet tall, but
Speaker 1: everybody else wants to do six more and you are
Speaker 1: so at any point, did it ever cross your mind? Um,
Speaker 1: maybe I need to make a modification here. And again
Speaker 1: it's a little tricky because it's not a nickname, it's
Speaker 1: birth name and it's from your mom. But once you
Speaker 1: go five eleven six one, did it never cross your mind?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to mix it up? Or did you
Speaker 1: like the kind of the yin and yang of it all?
Speaker 1: I mean I never really thought about like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I was like, it's my name, So
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna you know what I mean. Uh, It's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Yeah, I just never thought about
Speaker 1: it like that. We're so stupid, Like that's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like why can't we just focus on the Saints wide
Speaker 1: receiver battle? Why do we keep getting hung up on
Speaker 1: the name and so any any adjustments like large large
Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey or not so little Jordan Humphrey. There's also
Speaker 1: one what if it was kept little Jordan Humphrey open parenthetical?
Speaker 1: Who's actually six ft four? Closed parenthetical? No, alright, no reality,
Speaker 1: just a name, you know what I mean. Just it's
Speaker 1: a little different at um hopefully you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can, I do, I do enough just like it
Speaker 1: becomes a normal thing, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry we're dwelling on it. I I
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to move on. I am actually curious,
Speaker 1: um little Jordan's lj um about this Saints wide receiver room.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird, at least from our perspective
Speaker 1: with the Saints right now. It's kind of a an
Speaker 1: unusual offseason and that there are so many question marks
Speaker 1: when they've been so locked and loaded the last few years,
Speaker 1: and one thing that stands out is, Um, you are
Speaker 1: an undrafted UH player. There are seven of you, I
Speaker 1: believe that are fighting for big time reps UH in
Speaker 1: that wide receiver room. Everybody knows Michael Thomas and that
Speaker 1: he's dealing with the ankle surgery. But there seems to
Speaker 1: be a real opportunity here for you to really make
Speaker 1: an impact in your third season here. Yeah, I mean, um,
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity. Honestly, I'm just trying to see
Speaker 1: the and just like going out there working every day,
Speaker 1: competing and hopefully, you know, I'll find a spot on
Speaker 1: his team in the squad. Right that you enter such
Speaker 1: a crazy situation, you know, you you get to be
Speaker 1: there for the last year of Drew Brees. Now it's
Speaker 1: like a you know, different quarterback room. A though Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston and Taysom Hill were there before, but now they're
Speaker 1: battling for the leads about what I just got to
Speaker 1: be curious, as a long time believer in Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: what is that guy like UH in the locker room,
Speaker 1: like as your quarterback, as one of the as one
Speaker 1: of the leaders on this team. Now, I mean, great guy. Um,
Speaker 1: you know somebody you can talk to about anything. Um,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna lead you in the right direction.
Speaker 1: He's also gonna have fun with us. So I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want to as a quarterback
Speaker 1: and say with tastom like, I don't know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hard decision for Coast to make that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So what if what if Jamis
Speaker 1: tries to eat the w again in the pregame huddle? Like,
Speaker 1: would he lose the team if he did it? Or
Speaker 1: would people like that? Oh cool, callback man, we're in
Speaker 1: on it where we're doing. I doubt he lose a team.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's different about how he proach things and you can't
Speaker 1: knock him forward because he brings the energy when he
Speaker 1: does the way he does these things. So um, I
Speaker 1: mean I doubt. I doubt did he lose the team energy?
Speaker 1: Bringing food was losing people up and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know also in Texas that you, um, you were
Speaker 1: a poet. You wrote a couple of um poems that
Speaker 1: when I would call viral semi viral. Uh, what kind
Speaker 1: of poem. Will the Saints right this season in your mind?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Mark, whoa what kind of poem? Uh?
Speaker 1: Hopefully a great one? Honestly, Um, I feel like we
Speaker 1: got the tools to do to have a great season.
Speaker 1: We just gotta you know what I mean, keep working,
Speaker 1: trying to get better than this training camp and you know,
Speaker 1: just leave just trust and coaches playing. Uh, the coaches
Speaker 1: playing and executed at the best of our abilities. And
Speaker 1: I think it would be fine. What was your poetry style?
Speaker 1: Because I know Mark must must have done this. Reach
Speaker 1: just saw that and felt the kinship. He is definitely
Speaker 1: the poet. He he would love to go viral with
Speaker 1: the poem. It hasn't quite happened for him yet, Like
Speaker 1: how did he not? I couldn't tell you the poem style. Um,
Speaker 1: it's been a minute. I think I wrote it with um.
Speaker 1: But I'd just like to write sometimes, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: just get my get my mind on some clear my
Speaker 1: mind on the paper. So yeah, I don't have a
Speaker 1: specific style. Let's say that. Well, little Jordan, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us, and I would like to make an
Speaker 1: announcement for anyone listening. Now that we have asked the
Speaker 1: line of questioning about his name moratorium. No one asks
Speaker 1: l J about his name any longer. Is what it is,
Speaker 1: He's not changing it and pretty he loves his mom.
Speaker 1: Get off his back, Let it start on the photball, Uh,
Speaker 1: l J. Humphrey, a little Jordan, Thank you, buddy, and
Speaker 1: the best of luck this season. Good luck, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you, look at you through with the
Speaker 1: fucking there he goes a little Jordan's l J and Erica.
Speaker 1: Perhaps to Erica, I was kind of joking, to be
Speaker 1: quite honest with you when I said, let's get little
Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey on the show. And then he shows up
Speaker 1: and you roll with the punches. That was fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thanks the email I had to send a booking for
Speaker 1: like why we wanted it was like, um if like
Speaker 1: we were joking too for a chunk of it. But
Speaker 1: he was a good sport wanting five questions into the
Speaker 1: name origin. Um he probably figured out we weren't going
Speaker 1: to go in too many other directions with him. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was indeed a good sports. Speaking of good sports,
Speaker 1: we have another guest now and he is uh the
Speaker 1: honorary mayor of my not South Dakota, North Dakota South Dakota,
Speaker 1: North Dakota. Maybe he could help us out. And he
Speaker 1: is a longtime friend of the show, former colleague. Let's
Speaker 1: welcome him back. He's in the best shape of his life.
Speaker 1: Connor or welcome back to uh the Run the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy? And is it North or South Dakota?
Speaker 1: I know you know my not North Dakota. Right, you
Speaker 1: don't know either? You're then you are the mayor in waiting?
Speaker 1: What how would you It's it's North Dakota. You know what?
Speaker 1: I have like that inability to you can convince me
Speaker 1: of anything. And so like when Danet expressed doubt at
Speaker 1: the beginning, I was like, like, I have the frisbee
Speaker 1: sitting right behind me that I think says North Dakota
Speaker 1: on it, and uh, you know, but I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I typed in my naughty North Dakota. What
Speaker 1: are you? Can you spend a whole different place? Predated Ricky.
Speaker 1: I guess she wasn't paying attention to it. There's a
Speaker 1: solid like scent of our listenership that's probably not familiar
Speaker 1: with my not. But it's like one of the most
Speaker 1: important cities in the country is a city in North Dakota,
Speaker 1: and Um, for those not in the know, Connor once
Speaker 1: built a Madden franchise or is it a college football
Speaker 1: franchise whatever it was for e A Sports his video
Speaker 1: games that he loves so much, and UM talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show. And then My Not got all
Speaker 1: hot in the pants and sent a bunch of swag
Speaker 1: to us, and I think they gave Connor the key
Speaker 1: to the city. It got pretty wild. The key to
Speaker 1: the city never showed up, and uh it led to
Speaker 1: like this long festering conspiracy that UM like. I think
Speaker 1: at the time, I was mad at Greg and I
Speaker 1: just thought he was keeping it and not giving it
Speaker 1: to me, and so like for a long time, I
Speaker 1: was just like, God, this guy is just like, you know,
Speaker 1: plays dirty thing to suggest, nothing, nothing to st Alright, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is the chance to take it out and make
Speaker 1: make the wrong right. Yeah, I do remember that that
Speaker 1: time that Connor was was mad at me. Um. During
Speaker 1: his entire employment at the NFL was good Greg manager
Speaker 1: face so many exciting times. But Connor, Um, forget about
Speaker 1: My Not, but not forget about it. It's part of
Speaker 1: the show's history. We will love My Not. But let's
Speaker 1: knows spen forward. What is up with you, buddy? How
Speaker 1: you doing? What's going on? Are you? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you professionally fulfilled? Are you personally fulfilled? Take us through
Speaker 1: it all? Everything is Everything's great, you know. Uh, Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated is great. The football preview issue hits stands in
Speaker 1: a week from now, which I think everybody should, uh
Speaker 1: should go by in our The mm QB podcast is
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh and we've we've gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of crossover listeners, which has been awesome. Like we've
Speaker 1: we've gotten emails from a lot of people from a
Speaker 1: t N that have bounced over there and uh, and
Speaker 1: so that's been really cool. Hopefully we haven't lost them.
Speaker 1: You're saying that they're listening to both. You haven't told them.
Speaker 1: I've made them all sign agreements saying that they'll only
Speaker 1: listen to one podcast, which happened. So wait, that's you,
Speaker 1: Jenny is Brier involved with this. It's me Jenny and
Speaker 1: our our senior editor, Gary Grahamlin. It's makes up the
Speaker 1: MMQB podcast. I think uh Albert has a show, a
Speaker 1: YouTube show now, so it's trying to appeal to the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this before we get into it,
Speaker 1: because funds say we're gonna come up with team slogans
Speaker 1: um heading into season with Connor's help. But to me,
Speaker 1: at least if you're in our age range and Connor
Speaker 1: you're younger, but you're still I think fit under this.
Speaker 1: When you were going through J school and you had
Speaker 1: your dreams of being a big um sports writer, the
Speaker 1: holy grail was are you writing the cover story the
Speaker 1: Gamer for the Super Bowl? For s I? Is that
Speaker 1: a possibility for Connor? Or as we kind of look forward?
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know about this year, but maybe in
Speaker 1: the next five years. Do you think you're on a
Speaker 1: path where you might write the Sports Illustrated Gamer for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? UM? Is it? I would say this, Uh,
Speaker 1: the two people who do it now, Greg Bishop and
Speaker 1: Jenny Francis are both very young and very incredible, and
Speaker 1: the work that they've put into that um is is staggering.
Speaker 1: And so I would say that, like I would jump
Speaker 1: at the chance to to do it one day, But
Speaker 1: I don't know where I fall in the line, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you have to you have
Speaker 1: to be born in the right royal birth order, and uh,
Speaker 1: I seem to have gotten wedged in there, but I
Speaker 1: will I will say I've gotten to help a couple
Speaker 1: of times, like and contribute some stuff, which which was
Speaker 1: very cool. And uh yeah, I mean just the amount
Speaker 1: of work that they do on that is is staggering.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jen Jenny is sort of a mentor to
Speaker 1: you Connor story, it would be you kind of having
Speaker 1: to take your mentor and throw her under the bus
Speaker 1: to get the assignment, which is dirty, right. I think
Speaker 1: they're both young and and trusting. I know them both
Speaker 1: a little bit, so I think they'd be susceptible to
Speaker 1: foul play the same. The thought is on the rust, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the thought to to sort of you know,
Speaker 1: Frank Underwood. The whole thing has occurred to me. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's just something that I'm keeping in my back pocket.
Speaker 1: I've I've lived the first half of my life is
Speaker 1: sort of a a sort of a quiet guy. But
Speaker 1: that that exists inside all of us somewhere. That's Greg,
Speaker 1: our former manager, scouted who is vulnerable, who could be manipulated?
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Do you have the key to
Speaker 1: the city? Greg? What about the producer that does she
Speaker 1: have it? That was Yeah, I think she was gone.
Speaker 1: She was gone by then. What did they promise you
Speaker 1: was key to the city and say they said it
Speaker 1: was mailed to Culver City. Um, and it was never
Speaker 1: forwarded to me. The only reason I think I got
Speaker 1: some of the other stuff that was sent to me
Speaker 1: is I happened to be in the office on like
Speaker 1: that one time a year I would show up to
Speaker 1: resign my contract when a giant that giant box came
Speaker 1: and uh like, I got like tank tops, I got
Speaker 1: a cuzy, I got pens, I got a Frisbee that
Speaker 1: was behind me, and uh like pretzels, uh like vanilla
Speaker 1: icing pretzels, which were just ridiculously good. Just to let
Speaker 1: you know our mail room, Um, there are there are
Speaker 1: anecdotes of our mail room, Daniels. A couple of stories
Speaker 1: where they have hardcore flagged packages that have arrived and
Speaker 1: they've never really gotten to They've been careers, they've never
Speaker 1: maybe they saw you know what, who is this this
Speaker 1: NFL scribe receiving a giant gold or silver key. Um,
Speaker 1: we're sending this straight to your higher boss above Greg
Speaker 1: who no longer is with the company that also checks out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Team slogans for Connor. Um, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go through them. We're gonna just kind of cycle
Speaker 1: through teams. And if you this is I sent the
Speaker 1: text to the boys yesterday and I laid it out
Speaker 1: like this, you could have one slogan five twelve thirty
Speaker 1: two and we're just gonna rip through the teams. And
Speaker 1: when you have a slogan, let me know. Okay, and
Speaker 1: we'll do it that way. And let's start in the
Speaker 1: a f C East with the Buffalo Bills. I'll get
Speaker 1: us going. Uh. Cole Beasley does not represent the views
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, ownership or related properties. Solid they're
Speaker 1: they're like over, that's long. That's long for a slogan.
Speaker 1: But I did notice, you know, they're they're left tackle
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, who Um was in the hospital with COVID.
Speaker 1: He was partially vaccinated, maybe the highest paid player on
Speaker 1: their team other than Josh Allen, I think, and you know,
Speaker 1: one of their best players. And said he not to
Speaker 1: take go too serious, but he was worried he might die. UM.
Speaker 1: And so they asked him about Cole Beasley and and
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a tricky thing. And he he
Speaker 1: was he was he played it pretty cool. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I respect anyone wants to have their own wishes,
Speaker 1: but I am so thankful that I was partially vaccinated
Speaker 1: or I might have died. You wonder if these things
Speaker 1: in between. He got the job at the start of
Speaker 1: training camp, like a lot of players did once they
Speaker 1: sort of were compelled to uh and got COVID days
Speaker 1: later or almost like immediately later. I feel like the
Speaker 1: JAB thing has become very commonplace now and I don't
Speaker 1: like that. Does anybody else not like that? And they say, like,
Speaker 1: you got the jab? It's literally the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever said that. And even as I was saying, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to say that ever again.
Speaker 1: It's in headlines now. It's like Falcons didn't serious there.
Speaker 1: But that felt like a weird, wild story like that.
Speaker 1: There are two of your biggest leaders on your offense,
Speaker 1: like you do wonder what kind of conversations happened in
Speaker 1: cases like that, because they all had to be pretty
Speaker 1: worried that Dion Dawkins is laid up in a hospital,
Speaker 1: worried that he might die. A mere thirty one teams
Speaker 1: to get through Up next, the New England Patriots, anybody
Speaker 1: got one? Did not do? We're flying right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know why would we go through all thirty two teams?
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, when one shows up, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful treat. I was shopping one that I that I
Speaker 1: tossed out that I could just throw out there just
Speaker 1: like now back to like now featuring the original recipe,
Speaker 1: or like now back to the original recipe or something
Speaker 1: like that. Good, you know, because it's like now they
Speaker 1: are once again like a boring, plotting offense with like
Speaker 1: a like a quarterback who does nothing but released the
Speaker 1: ball in time, and you know, and everybody seems to
Speaker 1: love it. You know. My mine would be more, yeah,
Speaker 1: like something directed towards the fans, just from the team
Speaker 1: just being like saying, don't cheer too loud when we
Speaker 1: bench cam. Everyone thinks we're racist. So that would be
Speaker 1: my slogan, like, yeah, mine is kind of the voice
Speaker 1: of the fans. Mac Jones, that's more like it. All right, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: anybody Dolphins? I got double d o C s Oh,
Speaker 1: he's a g C. Little Johnson Zalis Inside Baseball Call
Speaker 1: the American Sports It was married broadcaster Colley Wolf. John
Speaker 1: was a Piece's resides in Los Angeles with his wife
Speaker 1: and two dogs. G See Good Call John Gonzalez, Colleen's husband,
Speaker 1: has been trying to get that off the ground for about, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen years. In our circle, it's it's
Speaker 1: gotten off the ground. Um up next the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: I have one for the Jets. Once you go Zack,
Speaker 1: you never go back. After today. I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like it could be like, oh man, it's happening again.
Speaker 1: Stop that. That's tough day. I don't really I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah, I think I don't know what the
Speaker 1: slogan is, but I do like here in New York,
Speaker 1: like it's happening right before our eyes where they're positing there,
Speaker 1: they're they're juxtaposing Robert Sala and Joe Judge, and like
Speaker 1: Robert sale is like this wonderfully calm, zen human and
Speaker 1: then Joe Judges like screaming at everybody, um and yelling
Speaker 1: at everybody, and he has not back down from that
Speaker 1: at all, and he's like, yeah, I don't yell at
Speaker 1: my players, and and that has kind of continued and
Speaker 1: it has been sort of the best. So like the
Speaker 1: slogan would almost be like best head coaching fight since
Speaker 1: like Rex and Tom Coughlin, you know where it's like
Speaker 1: we used to have that fun dynamic where it was
Speaker 1: like polar opposites and I feel like we're back there again,
Speaker 1: which or just like look at Big Blue, you know
Speaker 1: if if nothing else, I think they are the team
Speaker 1: you want to be right now in New York. The Jets, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still so brokenhearted about the Carl lass
Speaker 1: in development here, but uh, I think as a Jets
Speaker 1: Van I don't want to be around. Just stay on
Speaker 1: the on the positive side of things. And um, I'll
Speaker 1: go with this for their slogan, the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: A boy will lead them. Think it's like the music
Speaker 1: my aunt listens to. It's like the start of a
Speaker 1: long journey. He's a We've talked about him appearing to
Speaker 1: be a small not small because he's not small, but
Speaker 1: just a boy. I like it because it's like the
Speaker 1: beginning of a long adventure. You don't have to get
Speaker 1: to the end, you don't have to get to the
Speaker 1: Lord of the Ring. Yet this is like the start
Speaker 1: of nine hours straight. I mean, a lot of boys
Speaker 1: are very disorganized. They're still figuring things out. So I
Speaker 1: hope that when you say boy, that you're not looking
Speaker 1: for the pure traits of a person who's not an
Speaker 1: adult to lead a franchise. Like there's you. You get it, Mark,
Speaker 1: you have some biblical knowledge, I mean a young child
Speaker 1: will lead them. That we're looking at him as a
Speaker 1: christlike figure more than ever now that uh, what's happening
Speaker 1: on the other side of the football. I mean, this
Speaker 1: comes a week after you compared this to your Sam
Speaker 1: Donald fetish and said I'm not going down this road again.
Speaker 1: I'm more philosophical this time, and now you've compared them
Speaker 1: to I am. I am trying to take a step back,
Speaker 1: especially after the news of today. I am again fully
Speaker 1: aware of the curse that my organization is still dealing
Speaker 1: with after the Joe Namath Super Bowl, Like I'm still
Speaker 1: I understand that. So I'm trying to take a step back.
Speaker 1: But the organization, they need to get behind the young
Speaker 1: kid now more than ever. The a f C North,
Speaker 1: how about your Cleveland Browns, Mark, I didn't do one
Speaker 1: for them, all right, anybody else? All Right? I knew
Speaker 1: we were going if I knew the format was going
Speaker 1: through all thirty two teams yeah, I feel grossly unprepared. Now,
Speaker 1: I think it's fine that some get no attention. They're
Speaker 1: still working on. How about for the Browns, do you
Speaker 1: trust us? Yeah? I like that. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's where they're don't trust us, Yes, but
Speaker 1: the Bengals could just be checked the dossier. I have
Speaker 1: one for the Angles two. It's a little bit more
Speaker 1: of an in house slogan to everyone who works there.
Speaker 1: It says, please line up at the machine in the
Speaker 1: corner over there to punch your time cards each day
Speaker 1: at five pm. Paychecks will be direct deposited or mailed
Speaker 1: in paper form on Friday's at eleven am. Just check
Speaker 1: the box. Just do you get that information out? It's
Speaker 1: it's like that's internal information, but it's also in case
Speaker 1: they miss like an email. If it's on like the
Speaker 1: media guide, Uh, we'll probably see it there. Who else?
Speaker 1: I just went with it's football because, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's very like straightforward and legal. Um, because like you're
Speaker 1: not promising anybody anything, um. And theoretically the product that
Speaker 1: you're putting out there is football stadiums downtown. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize like how much the stadium is very just downtown
Speaker 1: and walkable until being in Cincinnati this time, it's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: what a great thing. Good about that Sinnatti Bengals. The
Speaker 1: stadium is downtown. Why not you know for Steelers I had,
Speaker 1: We're still here. Mark that a lot mine is mine
Speaker 1: is similar? Um, But it's if you thought our fans
Speaker 1: were knocked just before, just wait until the seven Revenge tour.
Speaker 1: It's not wrongly just edit out the word revenge there
Speaker 1: upon reading it. Um, all right. For the Ravens I
Speaker 1: had preseason is the reason for the season, and uh,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are writing. Well, Actually, we actually have a
Speaker 1: trailer um that I wanted to debut on the show
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens because this podcast is very exciting.
Speaker 1: In a world where exhibition football was mocked, diminished, and marginalized,
Speaker 1: one team had the guts to take a stand. Five years,
Speaker 1: eighteen victories, big rush, common ecturely throws, touchdown, zero defeats.
Speaker 1: You know from intersected, the Baltimore Ravens simply won't lose
Speaker 1: means a lot. I mean it means, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's a winning streak or just the idea of how
Speaker 1: you approach the games. I think it's your credit to
Speaker 1: the players in terms of corporation and coaches over the years,
Speaker 1: in terms of the we run a good training camp
Speaker 1: and off season program, and guys are ready to play,
Speaker 1: you know, good fundamental football and that's what wins when
Speaker 1: it's preseason season or whatever it might be. So this August,
Speaker 1: the hay is in the barn of that summer school
Speaker 1: is in session, makes the catches, he in bound touchdown
Speaker 1: for shop and the Baltimore Ravens are going streaking in
Speaker 1: the quad. Can they be beat? The No Fun Way
Speaker 1: coming soon to a theater near you? So long streaking
Speaker 1: in the Quad? They better not go one and two now,
Speaker 1: I mean shout out. That is amazing production work by
Speaker 1: every great great voice, and great job I Rick Gosselin
Speaker 1: for pointing out the eighteen game winning streak, because I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone even knows other than him. You know
Speaker 1: how relieved John Harbab was when somebody brought it up,
Speaker 1: Like he was just like, oh, thank god, okay, let
Speaker 1: me talk. Yeah, my slogan, um, We're not just crab
Speaker 1: cakes and cal Ripken anymore, doesn't feel as like meaningful
Speaker 1: if they're hearing that video that was Jason Zumwalt, of course,
Speaker 1: on the voice over talent AFC South. Let's see, I
Speaker 1: got Texan c Yeah, I have a Texans one. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: it's the main slogan that you would see all around
Speaker 1: the stadium is called ride the multicolored turtle from Sheba
Speaker 1: with an exclamation mark, and it's like, okay, so what
Speaker 1: does that mean? But in the small type, um, it
Speaker 1: says every fan ages three and up receives a tab
Speaker 1: of LSD with their game day ticket. Place said tab
Speaker 1: undertongue during the national anthem one in sixteen becomes a
Speaker 1: gorgeous rainbow. We respect you. Yeah, just imagine the billboard there,
Speaker 1: it's going all around the stadium. I love it. I
Speaker 1: do like the instructional nature of your slogans. Mark. I'm
Speaker 1: not very good at slogan, So I've got I've got
Speaker 1: some Texans related one which is just um, the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars were not the Texans, like that would be like
Speaker 1: a big hit. And then the Texans one slogan, which
Speaker 1: is just stop asking, right, just stop asking? Loan Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson's lack of awareness was outrageous when he kind of
Speaker 1: barked in a cameraman that was training the lens on
Speaker 1: him as he's walking off the practice field last week.
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing every day. What like upset
Speaker 1: that you're being put on camera? Dude, you you're kind
Speaker 1: of a story whether you want to be or not.
Speaker 1: Facing this. By the way, UM doing like incredible work.
Speaker 1: I am thankful for her. I'm thankful for copies like
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated that don't have television deals, you know with
Speaker 1: the NFL, that are able to do this sort of
Speaker 1: reporting because we we get a lot of grief and
Speaker 1: we've talked about this, you know, Deshaun Watson quite a bit,
Speaker 1: I think, but I think the NFL media gets a
Speaker 1: lot of um understandable and needed grief for how like
Speaker 1: we've handled Deshaun Watson. But it's like esp if you
Speaker 1: have noticed ESPN Pro Football talk with NBC, like everyone
Speaker 1: who are also employees of the NFL because they're getting
Speaker 1: paid by the NFL because their partners, their coverage is
Speaker 1: just as um regrettable, I would say, would be my word,
Speaker 1: like it's it's a tough one. Yeah on my radar
Speaker 1: for for the slogan like so I at first I
Speaker 1: imagined like you know, what the Texans need to do
Speaker 1: is lean into what they are beyond, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of the tire fire that's engulf the organization, which is
Speaker 1: like they just have this hilarious old man as a
Speaker 1: head coach and who's just comically lost, and like I
Speaker 1: would drape on the sides of the stadium like these large,
Speaker 1: like powerful pictures of him, like almost like Stalin in Russia,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then like and then
Speaker 1: just Sean Payton in in the year he was spending propaganda.
Speaker 1: Do we get beeps on this? Can I? Can? I say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it'd be like, you know, it's like it's Cully time,
Speaker 1: you know, like really like you know, like everything's got
Speaker 1: to be like Cully, you know, like it just like
Speaker 1: really bang the people over the head with it. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta put the focus somewhere. If your management trying
Speaker 1: to get the fan base excited building around Grandpa CALLI
Speaker 1: all right, a f C. West Um for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: And this is like my mom's old thing where she says, uh,
Speaker 1: if you say something you don't want to happen, don't
Speaker 1: spit in the skoy well about charges? What could possibly
Speaker 1: go wrong? Are they confidence like we feel kind. It
Speaker 1: has been a pretty quiet month, um, which gets which
Speaker 1: gets to my Charger slogan too, which is just have
Speaker 1: you seen justin Herbert? That's all just like that's like
Speaker 1: an actual slogan they could use on a billboard here,
Speaker 1: like ramps have a dustin her? Like have you seen
Speaker 1: dustin her? But this is amazing. We looked into this guy,
Speaker 1: what about don't make your season ticket package a business decision?
Speaker 1: Actually go to the games? I had see I went
Speaker 1: in a different direction there I had for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: You had me at hello, because is have you listened
Speaker 1: to Brandon Staley talk like this, thank you most engaging
Speaker 1: human on planet Earth? Like it's, um, what's the line
Speaker 1: from super Bad? It's like the first time I heard
Speaker 1: the Beatles watching their little um watching their little snippet
Speaker 1: of and I'm granted, I'm I'm like, I'm the target
Speaker 1: audience there. I just melt into a puddle. Every time
Speaker 1: I hear like rapid fire coach talking you and Mark
Speaker 1: he is right there, We're on. We're two pieces in
Speaker 1: a pod with Staley and I'm with you. He sold
Speaker 1: me on like that first round of pressors that he
Speaker 1: did I was like, you know, listening to a beautiful
Speaker 1: nerd M And I don't mean like a bad version
Speaker 1: of a nerd, like the good aspects of a nerd.
Speaker 1: On Sundays, you can literally run across from the office.
Speaker 1: I realized, like, I guess we should have known this,
Speaker 1: but like the entrance is literally like a hundred feet
Speaker 1: away from our office. You could just run over in
Speaker 1: the middle and watch your boy Brandon Stalely sounds chaotic.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could get in there. They'll
Speaker 1: have a By the time we actually get there, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll have a seventh ft wall with barbed wire.
Speaker 1: There's there of all. But you know, you get there.
Speaker 1: Oh do you, sir? Do you have a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars to enter the stadium? Um? I got
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in this division. To my chief slogan is
Speaker 1: be grateful for our existence, just like I have some gratitude.
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans. You haven't had of playoff win in what
Speaker 1: twenty plus years before Mahomes. This is the best part.
Speaker 1: It's like why I always say Week one is the
Speaker 1: best week of the NFL season because you got the
Speaker 1: most ahead of you. It's like this is still the
Speaker 1: best part of the Mahomes experience. You're in year four,
Speaker 1: You've already got a super Bowl in your pocket, you
Speaker 1: went to another, like everything is ahead of you. Just
Speaker 1: be grateful. A lack of gratitude, Like I was gonna
Speaker 1: say it was at first, I said, fair point. I said,
Speaker 1: what what evidence is Greg have that the Chiefs fan
Speaker 1: base isn't just a good reminder as these as the years.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm projecting Coltriots fan like they the Patriots fans
Speaker 1: still high all that gratitude going into two thousand four.
Speaker 1: I would say like that was the time where it
Speaker 1: started stacking these years. Yeah, it really turned into obnoxious
Speaker 1: fan behavior right around. All right, um, let's move to
Speaker 1: well I have for the Raiders if we think it's
Speaker 1: Mayox fault or maybe the QBS over in the desert.
Speaker 1: All right, NFC, we're you got another one missing the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Right what you got? Uh? You have to
Speaker 1: say it in the right voice that kind of been
Speaker 1: practicing it a little bit. Um, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: football like Mom used to make you know, like it
Speaker 1: has to be like in a really like Italian voice.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason that I like it is
Speaker 1: because they're they're coach is an old Italian man from Scranton,
Speaker 1: and like he's built this like dream vision of a
Speaker 1: team that like an elderly man from Scranton would build,
Speaker 1: like this unstoppable defense, a running game, a great offensive line,
Speaker 1: and perhaps the quarterback. We don't know, like there might
Speaker 1: not be one, but uh you know, in in that way,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like if I'm going out, I'm going
Speaker 1: out exactly how you know I would my my ninety
Speaker 1: year old high school football coach come out hunters. The
Speaker 1: slogans all sound like like slogans, like they've been tested,
Speaker 1: like like that he scored well with the fans and
Speaker 1: focus groups. I love it. Yeah, you know, so that's
Speaker 1: why I didn't do a lot of them. But you
Speaker 1: know the work that went into this. You know, you're hitting,
Speaker 1: you're hitting exactly. You only play against um lefty pitchers,
Speaker 1: but you mash your ops is through the roof in
Speaker 1: your platoon role. UM in the NFC started the East
Speaker 1: for the Washington football team. We can't have a slogan
Speaker 1: until we have a name. That's That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not uh probably being out number three
Speaker 1: to one on it's so cool. Well that's why that's
Speaker 1: why my my slogan would be more leaning into it,
Speaker 1: which is more that we are the football team, Like
Speaker 1: that's pretty they're the ones that's pretty good. Well, they're
Speaker 1: the list of the all the names they're considering. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of almost any of them at all.
Speaker 1: Like I would stick with football team like the rest
Speaker 1: of the division. They're not changing the name I'm i
Speaker 1: I would I would put a sandwich on it. That's
Speaker 1: kind of we are the football team. Because I'm picturing
Speaker 1: on the billboard and it's so stupid. But then you
Speaker 1: look at it, it's like, that's pretty good. You gotta
Speaker 1: bowld it out. You gotta bold the the out, you know,
Speaker 1: or something to make it all caps that you know,
Speaker 1: you've gotta make that part exciting. Just go with like
Speaker 1: please please don't call us the defenders would be like that, right,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna get so uncomfortable, like right away, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, or how about it the
Speaker 1: defense falls off a cliff and at some point is
Speaker 1: that the worst defense in the league for five years
Speaker 1: and your nickname is the defenders? Yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good point. That's a good point. And came up with
Speaker 1: some of these names, was like the red Pigs or
Speaker 1: the red hogs, Like what do we coming here? The
Speaker 1: red pigs? Is that up for? Is that? I like
Speaker 1: that a lot? And I don't think that's one of
Speaker 1: them pigs. Fantastic someone online photoshop uh ter Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: in a Red Wolves jersey. I guess red Wolves was
Speaker 1: a thing, and like it was like one laws claws
Speaker 1: coming down, like bloody claws coming down his shoulders, and
Speaker 1: then it's and then the their slogan, it was like
Speaker 1: Washington red Wolves. We won't concern ourselves with the opinions
Speaker 1: of sheep, you know because and I was just like wow,
Speaker 1: like that would be so bad that it would be
Speaker 1: the best thing for the franchise. Like that's what you do.
Speaker 1: You you lean into the worst nickname of all time
Speaker 1: and you just totally rebrand. I really like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like the guiding principle should be if you could
Speaker 1: if the name conjures up an image of Jake Ruden
Speaker 1: as your quarterback, um, then you you're not a professional
Speaker 1: like NFL level team name and go back to the
Speaker 1: shop all right. Uh. For the New York Giants, Ricky
Speaker 1: can you play the the Maro clip um from his
Speaker 1: recent press availability. We're all on the hot seat, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? With our fans in particular, we've
Speaker 1: given him too many losing seasons. It's time for us
Speaker 1: to start winning. But no, I wouldn't say that. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's inaccuracy. The New York Giants, even the
Speaker 1: freaking owner is on the hot seat. No one's ever
Speaker 1: heard of that before. It's never happened. An owner has
Speaker 1: never been on the hot seat until the two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty one New York Giants. I believe it. I think
Speaker 1: he think he resigns in shame if the Giants go
Speaker 1: seven and ten, do totally he walked away from it all.
Speaker 1: He He's literally been saying this every year since I
Speaker 1: started covering the team in two thousand and ten. And
Speaker 1: there's like every year he comes out and does his
Speaker 1: yearly availability and then someone says, is there a playoff mandate?
Speaker 1: And he said, we're all on the hot seat? But
Speaker 1: quick like boring stories like when Tom Coffin was there,
Speaker 1: the big thing was every year he had a slogan
Speaker 1: and it was terrible, and it was always like from
Speaker 1: some picture book he probably read on General Patton or
Speaker 1: something like that right before the season started. But it
Speaker 1: was like a very like frantic thing where it was like,
Speaker 1: which beat reporter is gonna be the first guy to
Speaker 1: identify the slogan and like sometimes the players would in
Speaker 1: your very early days of Twitter like maybe hashtag it
Speaker 1: and then you're like, is that the slogan? And like
Speaker 1: you know, and then you'd get there and be like
Speaker 1: burn the boats or you know, we're going all in
Speaker 1: or like you know, uh, secure the borders or something,
Speaker 1: you know, like one of those things. And that's McCarthy
Speaker 1: did with the Austin Powers thing. You clearly watched that
Speaker 1: on Netflix, uh and and decided, oh, yeah, Mojo, that's
Speaker 1: that's our whole thing. But which, by the way, if
Speaker 1: you had a whole offseason to prepare a speech and
Speaker 1: and that's which it came up with, like like and
Speaker 1: you knew you were gonna be on hard Knocks, Like
Speaker 1: if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm like, who the hell did
Speaker 1: I hire? I think it's just a human capacity we're
Speaker 1: dealing with there. I don't if my number one takeaway
Speaker 1: from every hard knocksis and is. Has any one of
Speaker 1: these speeches ever helped any team at all? Like, think
Speaker 1: of the amount of man hours wasted. I'm sure maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of them have, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: think of like all the time that's wasted, that's not
Speaker 1: helped anyone in one likes degree, and they'd still just
Speaker 1: do it all the time. Speaking of the Cowboys, anybody
Speaker 1: got one of them? I have one. I have offense
Speaker 1: not available in certain participating locations. Uh, just because it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess it was like a way to get to
Speaker 1: the fact that like Mike McCarthy sort of lied about
Speaker 1: everything that he knew about offense leading up to this,
Speaker 1: and that sometimes they look really great and then sometimes
Speaker 1: they look like the two thousand and eleven Packers and
Speaker 1: so um. Depending on which game you you attend, you
Speaker 1: really don't know what what's coming. So you're not buying
Speaker 1: McCarthy's epiphany year where he apparently went out and was
Speaker 1: you know, downloaded into the motherboard like other offensive concepts,
Speaker 1: and he comebacks and it's just the same guy. Don't
Speaker 1: forget about mojo moments, guys, you gotta factor that into
Speaker 1: the offensive year. He told Peter King, He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hire eleven math guys and like, and then you
Speaker 1: go to like the team uh, the team website, it's like,
Speaker 1: where are the math guys? There's no you gotta be
Speaker 1: a subscriber to y Yeah, you get to the math guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He hired like eleven sixth grade math teachers at an
Speaker 1: area elementary schools and middle schools, and even then they
Speaker 1: could teach him, like you know, hey, let's go for it.
Speaker 1: And fourth, I've got the Eagles, um, which the slogan
Speaker 1: would be Sirianni more like Siri yummy. Okay, so alright,
Speaker 1: haven't seen it in person? Like yeah, lean into um Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a younger women to everyone, just like it's Siri yummy.
Speaker 1: All right. I like that. Back to Cowboys, I had
Speaker 1: a clean gooch, full hearts, can't lose. That's money and
Speaker 1: part not This Week and Hard Knocks. But I was
Speaker 1: not familiar with that. Really, neither was Dan. Apparently it
Speaker 1: was not. I wasn't that area of the body show.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all right, Well we still have that area
Speaker 1: of the body, so she's it's not only we aren't.
Speaker 1: We still are part of the experience. I mean, I
Speaker 1: will give it to the youth of America. I actually
Speaker 1: like Gooch better than uh the other ones, right, I
Speaker 1: think I think you guys have hit on something here.
Speaker 1: Good job with everything else too, um nfc North? Anybody
Speaker 1: got one from the North too? For the what what's that? Hunter?
Speaker 1: Are missing the giants in the East? All right? What
Speaker 1: do you got for the giants? We ain't got time
Speaker 1: to bleed Roddy Piper? Just because I was there for
Speaker 1: the practice where Joe Judge freaked out and every made
Speaker 1: everybody do laps and push ups, and it was it
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. It was like it was unlike anything I've
Speaker 1: ever seen before in my life. And do you think
Speaker 1: get the vibe that that's a he's kind of messing
Speaker 1: with something here, He's in a little bit of putting
Speaker 1: himself in danger. Put it that way. One with this
Speaker 1: type of style, do you think this is gonna work
Speaker 1: long term? Even long term being December? This is the
Speaker 1: bell Weather. I actually wrote this that this is the
Speaker 1: bell Weather for whether anybody else is gonna try this again? Right,
Speaker 1: Like he is the last guy. I feel like if
Speaker 1: this doesn't work, then the tough guy coach goes basically
Speaker 1: out the window like Bell. And then Belichick is the
Speaker 1: last guy that's able to do that, you know, because
Speaker 1: you you can't come in hot anymore and and do that.
Speaker 1: You have to like in in five years, everybody is
Speaker 1: gonna look like um like like Kyle Shanahan, like the
Speaker 1: official coaching uniformal change from like a polo to like
Speaker 1: a patagonious sleeveless vest and like a checkered gingham shirt
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Like everyone's gonna look like that guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if that's a good thing either.
Speaker 1: This this approach works if you win. Look at Belichick,
Speaker 1: It's like he got a win. That's that's what matters
Speaker 1: the most. Um N North, I got it. I got
Speaker 1: the Vikings right, which is you know, which is just no,
Speaker 1: it's not covid um or like like's just click on
Speaker 1: a billboard. How does that look like? You know? You
Speaker 1: can put your mask on our quarterbacks about to call play,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and what it's like the Viking helmet
Speaker 1: or the logo or whoever their mascot is, and then
Speaker 1: it's just locked in a glass or a plexiglass cage,
Speaker 1: like the quarterback wants to be like you just kind
Speaker 1: of get like that there image visual. Yeah, I've got
Speaker 1: the Packers, which their slogan is gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: thirteen and three wasn't good enough for you. Watch this
Speaker 1: I'm a Packers one too. Um. With this Packers one,
Speaker 1: you need to you have to imagine yourself um in
Speaker 1: the stadium. This Elton John version of this song is
Speaker 1: blasting in the and the tagline is the big back. Okay,
Speaker 1: little complaining Quarterback's back in the house. But then you
Speaker 1: sell it in a different way. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he's gonna He's probably gonna put that on good a
Speaker 1: Kunts when he sees the billboard outside. You know what.
Speaker 1: You know what for all these people that are so
Speaker 1: hardcore on the other side, they can view it through
Speaker 1: that lens. It's really through whatever you want to see
Speaker 1: it as that the Lions, Um, you know, this is
Speaker 1: a rebuilding situation for the Lions. So you gotta kind
Speaker 1: of look to find your positives here about Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: We have the strongest coach and then just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. They do physically he's the strongest coach. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely true. I mean, he is a guy, like he
Speaker 1: looks good getting off the bus. They always say that
Speaker 1: about football teams, why not your coaching staff? Well more
Speaker 1: and more so I think that's true. My Lions one
Speaker 1: was um, you could pair it with that um if
Speaker 1: times get tough, but you can switch over to Little
Speaker 1: House from the Prairie after the first quarter if you wish.
Speaker 1: It's fine. We totally get it. I love that you
Speaker 1: keep those little House on the Prairie refs Strong century.
Speaker 1: I think it would be funny if one of the
Speaker 1: slogans and the Lions I guess would fit for this
Speaker 1: was just like oh no, no, no, no, but that
Speaker 1: that's mean, right. I think it's more like we're trying
Speaker 1: the Mike Frabel thing, you know, like li Lions, like
Speaker 1: we're trying the Micrabel thing, you know, because we just,
Speaker 1: you know, see if they could do it. You know,
Speaker 1: NFC South, I got one for the Saints. Do your job,
Speaker 1: even if we didn't do our job reinforcing our roster
Speaker 1: in the off season. I have a Saints head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My Saints one is f y. I we might kind
Speaker 1: of bite, but TBD, just a heads up and you
Speaker 1: kind of just have that as a long bear. Were
Speaker 1: so negative. But my my Saints one is if you
Speaker 1: love the Pats, you'll love us. I started saying the
Speaker 1: same thing, Greg, That's what I mean. We're all. That's
Speaker 1: why I feel bad. We're all. We're all piling on
Speaker 1: a little bit like please please enjoy Sean Payton as
Speaker 1: the head coach of your Dallas Cowboys were still. I
Speaker 1: love that. That's one of my favorite rumors. I do
Speaker 1: have a Panthers one, which is who rules? Matt rules?
Speaker 1: Comes up? Sam Donald, better play along to make that
Speaker 1: billboard makes sense? Made I feel like that. You know
Speaker 1: the fans are thinking it, so why not make it
Speaker 1: the slogan h Finally, unless you had one there in
Speaker 1: the South Connor, I know you gotta get going in
Speaker 1: a minute. My Panthers one was just can our quarterback
Speaker 1: throw to the left. We'll find out. Finally, the NFC West,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a real one for me. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: cook or die? This is it just lean into it.
Speaker 1: Give Russ seventeen weeks and if he falls on his face,
Speaker 1: you learn something about him, the offense, the state of
Speaker 1: this team. Cooker died, Cooker died. I do like the
Speaker 1: short ones. I have to admit those those just they
Speaker 1: sing I have a Niners one one a Niners one.
Speaker 1: This would be on on on top of the big
Speaker 1: bell bottom. They build like a hundred yard long billboard
Speaker 1: that also goes up about thirty yards and it just says,
Speaker 1: anyone smell a think piece. But I think what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with this team is it's gonna be everyone all all,
Speaker 1: everyone including me. Everyone loves Shanahan. And when Shanahan does
Speaker 1: a lot of amazing stuff with Trey Lance, the fan boys,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of just feel kind of like something
Speaker 1: that I thought I liked a lot more than other people.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna like Kyle Shanahan the same and write a
Speaker 1: billion bi week five or six insane thing pieces all
Speaker 1: over the internet about what he's done with Trey Lance
Speaker 1: and the Revolution, And so that sign is just gonna be, like,
Speaker 1: you know, anyone smell a think piece? We should do
Speaker 1: these slow again. At the beginning of training camp, I
Speaker 1: feel like we're getting like a cynical fourth week of
Speaker 1: training camp, are ready for the season to start a
Speaker 1: bunch of slogans. But I do have a forty Niners
Speaker 1: one too. Mine is, uh, this is gonna be just
Speaker 1: like two thousand twelve without that harpout, time out. I
Speaker 1: see a theme with yours as well. Greg. A lot
Speaker 1: of callbacks the past seasons. Some people will have to
Speaker 1: do maybe a Wikipedia search, but they'll connect those dots times.
Speaker 1: It's fair the Niners fans, No, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's directed. I've got a Cardinals one, but I will
Speaker 1: need Ricky too to bring it up for us if
Speaker 1: she's there. Hey, a sailor. If you're looking for a
Speaker 1: good time with the team that feels destined to go
Speaker 1: eight eight and one, come on over, big boy. That
Speaker 1: was the Cardinals. Yeah, okay, they're just kind of selling
Speaker 1: what they are. Probably one of the most likely teams
Speaker 1: in the league to go eight eight and one for
Speaker 1: the first time in NFL history, But it could be fun.
Speaker 1: Remember our a t n intern. Yeah, what was his
Speaker 1: name or her name? Kyle Kyle. That's right, that's a
Speaker 1: slogan for the Forts. Kyle. All right, Connor, do you
Speaker 1: have a podcast to record? Yeah, you got and and
Speaker 1: you should listen to You're gonna listen to it. You
Speaker 1: want to listen to it right now or well when
Speaker 1: you're done, you know, comes it comes on Monday. I
Speaker 1: gotta taping it Thursday to come out on Monday. That's
Speaker 1: cutting edge. What what happens, if anything happens at all
Speaker 1: between now and then, we do we do add segments.
Speaker 1: We we've done that. Sunday is normally like our our
Speaker 1: wiggle room day, you know, just you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it a listen for your seems like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: well yes, we're gonna listen to the entire week of
Speaker 1: preseason ahead. So if you're looking for, you know, slightly
Speaker 1: older content anyway, check it out. The It is the
Speaker 1: mm QB Podcast. I believe it's called correct. That's it.
Speaker 1: And follow Connor at connor Or that's one and two
Speaker 1: rs on the last name, one R on the first name.
Speaker 1: That just made her even more complicated to try to
Speaker 1: find him. But you'll find him and one day he'll
Speaker 1: be the cover story for a Super Bowl Gamer. I
Speaker 1: feel it. Connor, you're a you're a hero. Well, it
Speaker 1: was great to see you guys, and thank you for
Speaker 1: having me on. And let's let's all get together soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've all got the jab, get the get the jam,
Speaker 1: all right. There he goes, there, he goes the iconic
Speaker 1: Connor or get him the key to the city. Why
Speaker 1: not if you're still listening. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: man in power um was involved, Uh that was involved
Speaker 1: with the initial gift giving is still in office, but
Speaker 1: a lot of political upheavals have gone down since or
Speaker 1: whenever that story was. Hopefully the my Not infrastructure is
Speaker 1: still in place because they were not. He was an
Speaker 1: operative to I don't think he was like the highest.
Speaker 1: I think he was a regular guy who listened to
Speaker 1: the show. So I'm not sure what his deal was.
Speaker 1: By the way, like my Not, North Dakota has some
Speaker 1: of the grizzliest ties to the Son of Sam case
Speaker 1: that you will find anywhere, which I believe I've tried
Speaker 1: to get you guys. I've texted you all this before.
Speaker 1: No one ever responds. But um, now, Netflix, I believe
Speaker 1: it's Netflix of Prime has this Son of Sam's documentary
Speaker 1: and my Not is featured hardcore and like episode three,
Speaker 1: so if you were a deep diver, check it out.
Speaker 1: All right. If I do get I don't want the
Speaker 1: key to that city after what I saw. But a
Speaker 1: real tough spot when you like wake up on a
Speaker 1: Saturday and you see the three tiered Sessler tweet storm
Speaker 1: or text storm from like one thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: the night before about the son of Sam, because it's
Speaker 1: like the next like do you respond? Then it's like, why,
Speaker 1: apologies for sharing my interests with my cohorts and friends.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll step away from that. Please never stop sending it.
Speaker 1: I yeah, don't always reply because whatever is going on
Speaker 1: on mark time wherever you are sometimes just does not
Speaker 1: connect with what's going on in other people's times, So
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't really interface. But I also suspect
Speaker 1: you have me on mute and various UM formats at times,
Speaker 1: so I've never had never all right, as promised, before
Speaker 1: we go, uh, you heard Chris Uh in a little
Speaker 1: flashback to two thousand thirteen when he first By the way,
Speaker 1: you didn't just hear Chris, you actually heard a little
Speaker 1: snippet of the producer that stole our stitcher. That was
Speaker 1: a real and it's great to hear with his voice.
Speaker 1: And Ricky did a great job digging up the rest
Speaker 1: of what I believe is a early conversation station about
Speaker 1: the famed Bengals dossier. So UM as opposed to playing
Speaker 1: out with our standard UH music play out. I will
Speaker 1: say this, he'd the call, and now we throw it
Speaker 1: to you know, we hop in the time machine when
Speaker 1: we're all together. Uh. And West was explaining to us
Speaker 1: his divorce from his boyhood team, take it away, Mr Wesley. Wesley,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't help Notice you came into the office
Speaker 1: today with a big file of Night seven paperwork that
Speaker 1: the highlights and underlines and everything. So this is wow.
Speaker 1: There it is. That's the holy grail. That is exactly
Speaker 1: what West has been speaking of for weeks. He has
Speaker 1: an entire five what how do you describe it again? Well,
Speaker 1: it was a legal file folder. When I used to
Speaker 1: work at a law firm, I had one of the
Speaker 1: legal files. But it's now in like a hanging file.
Speaker 1: This is my evidence for why I broke up with
Speaker 1: the Bengals about fifteen years ago. It's various articles and
Speaker 1: research about how they ran their operation at the time
Speaker 1: and why I felt a need after they left me
Speaker 1: at the Altar to not go back to their loving arms.
Speaker 1: This is this is wonderful madness. This is insane. He
Speaker 1: has highlighted articles from Salon dot com places. Remember King
Speaker 1: Kaufman from Salon don't even exist. Anymore. It's some weird
Speaker 1: iteration of ESPN. He has an article from The Inquirer
Speaker 1: entitled Mike Brown's Contribution to the Lunatic Fringe about Bengals
Speaker 1: charging three dollars for tap water. That's the most Bengals
Speaker 1: article ever. I like, how you ever? Clearly this all
Speaker 1: these were printed up on a Netscape Rouser dial up connection,
Speaker 1: a library computer lounge. I don't take sports loyalty lightly.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to break up with your team,
Speaker 1: I think you have to have you have to make
Speaker 1: a case. I made a case. Have they ever lured
Speaker 1: you back to potential fandom? And then you've gone to
Speaker 1: visit this legal file for why did you? Were you
Speaker 1: doing this at the time or then you decided, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break up? And then I went back and
Speaker 1: printed all these out. I would say half and half
Speaker 1: like some of those articles from when I broke up
Speaker 1: with them, and then maybe by two thousand and two
Speaker 1: they were having another really historically awful season and I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you have to remind myself of why I broke
Speaker 1: up with this and did you ever did you ever
Speaker 1: present your cases? There's someone that you do present such
Speaker 1: a case too well. Every once in a while there'll
Speaker 1: be some very shortsighted, ignorant fan who will have this
Speaker 1: opinion that you can never break up with a team,
Speaker 1: and you have. They think loyalty is only a one
Speaker 1: way street. The fan has to be loyal, but the
Speaker 1: franchise doesn't. And at that point, maybe I can go
Speaker 1: get my research and show them why exactly this. People
Speaker 1: forget because the Bengals have had a few good years,
Speaker 1: how bad of an operation they were. It was the
Speaker 1: worst operation I've seen in sports. And I have one
Speaker 1: that's accusing Mike Brown of breaking constitutional rights of freedom
Speaker 1: of speech. I have another once I forgot about where
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I guess lightly threatened to move to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Did you remember this? At awesome? People forget about all
Speaker 1: the egregious things they did. How can the Bengals threatened
Speaker 1: to move to another city with the team the already
Speaker 1: and planted during the I was hoping that I'm looking
Speaker 1: at something here. West scrawled it in crayon that the
Speaker 1: Bengals and Brown were in the Grassy Knoll. And we
Speaker 1: understand Wesseling's divorce from the Bengals. I don't. I still
Speaker 1: don't under say it actually leaves more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: We can talk about this over beers. We will, and
Speaker 1: we will. I don't know how we get back on
Speaker 1: track because I want to dig through. Literally, I feel
Speaker 1: like we're not describing it properly. There's probably what three
Speaker 1: hundred pieces of paper and that will take a photo
Speaker 1: of this and send it out on our Twitter account
Speaker 1: highlights and you guys can take a look.