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Speaker 1: We have Ryan French, Mark and Sarah Baldwin and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about episode one, season one, The Grind. It's out guys.

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Speaker 1: every Saturday night, Mark would get on the plane and

428
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: say it will be like you know again behind the scenes,

429
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: you see these wives that are like, yeah, it's okay,

430
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna handle it and get on the plane. And

431
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: so Mark would get on the plane and then you know,

432
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: back to the compartmentalizing. How locked in was he Like

433
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: you can't be locked in? Uh, And then you know

434
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: the RSM Monday is a great example, like things haven't

435
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: gone well and Mark and I marks three over through

436
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: five holes and like this is how in pro golf,

437
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: Like this is how you know. Mark said on the

438
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: fifth t He's like, well, Ryan, I think if we

439
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: birdie ten of the next thirteen, uh, we should we

440
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: should get in a playoff. And as he's standing over

441
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: the ball, he goes or he like pulls the club,

442
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: he goes, what what part of my game have you

443
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: seen so far that makes you think I'm gonna make

444
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: ten birdies? And that was like none and so like

445
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: like it's funny you're laughing, but inside you're dying, like

446
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: you're just like this is you know, we've flown across

447
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: That was the RSM, which across the country, and uh,

448
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like my kids at home sick, my

449
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: wife is struggling, and I'm three over through five. I

450
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: just want to crawl in a hole, you know. And

451
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: during the RSM Monday, we fight in Mark Hubbard and

452
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: I am hitting it all over the place and Mark

453
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: is striping it, knocking down flags and he just cannot

454
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: get the ball to go in the hall. And I

455
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: think I think that he and his wife had just

456
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: found out that they were pregnant with or first and

457
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: so we were talking about, you know, the dynamics of

458
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: being a professional golf and oh yeah, Joey Garber's had

459
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: a baby. That's right. So there's a lot of you know,

460
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: new dad talk and h and Mark's like, oh, you know,

461
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: everyone just everyone says, well, you know, once you become

462
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: a new dad, you're your game's gonna change for the better.

463
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, everything everything is put in perspective, right, You

464
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: hear all the time, Oh well golf doesn't isn't as

465
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: important anymore because now I realized that, you know, there's

466
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: there's something that's a lot more important than me being

467
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: selfish and trying to achieve my own dream. Um. And

468
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: I was just He's like, so you know, that's that's

469
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: what everybody tells me. And I was like, yeah, that's bullshit.

470
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, of course, you know, the perspective of

471
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: your there's something way more important is certainly true. But

472
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: like in helping your game, I mean you're seeing how

473
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm hitting the oar. I certainly have seen that. Okay,

474
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: there's just a lot more stress. I mean, it's just

475
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: more money I have to make it, just like I

476
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: gotta get in this one. Uh. But it's it's all

477
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the perspective for the top players that have twenty million

478
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: dollars in the bank, the players that have like maxed

479
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: out their credit card to be at the r s

480
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: M and have a baby. It's the reverse. It's like,

481
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I really need to make this six footer, like really

482
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: that that stretched Sarah and the you know, the health

483
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: complications of a child and Mark gone and not you know,

484
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: playing grade and that led to the Big Money Classic,

485
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: which you know again there was like this up to

486
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, second place. Then COVID like like this this

487
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: isn't this is this this run of of sort of

488
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: sad stuff, bad news, bad golf, bad results. You know

489
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: that has to be at some point do you get

490
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: are you over it? Sot? Like are you prevent to

491
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: sort of like say all right, that's you know, that's it. Yes, Um,

492
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: it is really hard when that happens. But I keep thinking,

493
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: like your brake's got to be coming, Like it's like

494
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: if we've gone through this, like it's got to be

495
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: the next one, right, you know. So I think that

496
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: was the hardest part for sure, just you never give up.

497
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: You never give up. Hope, no, no, So yeah, it

498
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: was definitely hard. But I'm kind of the kind of

499
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: person who's like, okay, like let's move on from that

500
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: and and look towards the next thing. It's incredible because

501
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, again, just when you thought, just when it

502
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: looks like you guys are all together, you're having a

503
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: little holiday, you know, kids are running around, there's some healthy,

504
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: healthy kids. Now you've got good weather and there's some happiness,

505
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: and the put went in and the practice rounding and

506
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: then uh, Mark Mark was Mark was Now in hindsight,

507
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered, But uh, I mean Mark. I've

508
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: all the times I've caddied from Mark, not joking, including

509
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: uh maybe close the first three the round of Spyglass,

510
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: but uh, Mark played a practice round and like, you

511
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: don't say it outwardly, we we said it a little

512
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: bit for the show, but like he played the practice

513
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: rounds like he was striping it and I was like, oh,

514
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: it's on, Like I used the Graham to Let quote

515
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: all the time. He's like, for the reality is that

516
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: for the non top players in the world, there's like

517
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: five times a year that you're playing your best and

518
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: you just hope you're playing a tournament. Right. It was

519
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: like clearly obvious. Mark was like really on his game,

520
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: like never left the flag the whole day the first day,

521
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: never left the flag the whole day. The only or

522
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: said one of two bogey free rounds is in second place,

523
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: like things are going very well, like we're gonna win

524
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars, and wakes up in the morning

525
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't feel good, and he's dizzy and

526
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: where balls out of bounds off the houses because he

527
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: can't see the ball and ship gone real sideways. Sarah

528
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: came out with medicine in the middle of the round.

529
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: It was an absolute disaster. And that's it. I mean,

530
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: that's it, Like that's pro golf, Like the top of

531
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: the world to the bottom of the barrel in one overnight.

532
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: And and not only that mark, but then you got

533
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: to hang out by yourself for two you know, like

534
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's not only a punch in

535
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the gut, but it's also like now, now just sit

536
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: by yourself for two weeks. Yeah, well, that's typically what

537
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: I preferred. That's the state that I prefer to be in,

538
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, solitude and isolation. It's kind of my happy places,

539
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: like vacation. That was probably the high point of got

540
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: a whole month month and outstretch. But no, I mean

541
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was. It was so disappointing,

542
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: just because I know when those moments come where my

543
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: play is just unconscious and I can do what I

544
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: see in my head without a whole lot of effort,

545
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: And that was the point I had reached. And like

546
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: Sarah says, you know when you ask that previous question,

547
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: she was like, look, you go through, you know, a

548
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: bad stretch, but if you dwell on it, and you're

549
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: you beat yourself up, it's more likely to bleed into whatever,

550
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, your net next pattern, your next cycle, that

551
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: would naturally come right. So like if the next cycle,

552
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: all this work that you put in you're not doing

553
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: well enough, playing well, factors outside of golf are caught,

554
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, making it worse. If you dwell on that

555
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and you don't just focus on what's next and let

556
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: that work kind of naturally play into the next cycle

557
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: to help you improve, you can actually kind of delay

558
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: that that good play. And so finally that good play

559
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: had appeared from you know, some of the work I

560
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: done previously and just kind of web the ring the

561
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: storm of those previous six weeks. And then yeah, it

562
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: was it was a big hit too, to know that

563
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I could just kind of do command the golf ball

564
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: to do what I wanted and then suddenly to have

565
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: another obstacle throw our way that for those four events,

566
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: three Mondays and a big money classic, you know, essentially

567
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: you don't cash any check, there's no money coming in.

568
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: The money going out has to be somewhere around three thousand,

569
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: at least three thousand dollars an event, right in terms

570
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: of flights, rental, cars, lodging entries, whatever, you know, roughly

571
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: three to you know, essentially twelve to fifteen thousand dollars

572
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: going out zero coming in for that stretch of time. Yeah,

573
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly that trip was expensive, especially having to

574
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: quarantine for the extra week and a half after that,

575
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: So there were a couple of house rentals, but a

576
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: typical Monday. I think in the first episode we kind

577
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: of saw the expenses. You know, it could be anywhere

578
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: between a thousand and fifteen hundred UM maybe if it

579
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: was done you know, a really expensive place, maybe a

580
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: little bit more, but that those expenses at up quickly

581
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: when there's nothing to show for them, you know. And

582
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so there's just there's just a whole lot

583
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: of expenses on one side of the balance sheet and

584
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: not a whll lot on the other. At some point,

585
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: especially when you have a kiddo, you know, you you

586
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: kind of get to the point where you start thinking,

587
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: how am I going to pay the bills? Mark used

588
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: to do h his credit card payments at those Mondays.

589
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like it's it's like, you know,

590
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: here we go. You know, it's it's not like we're

591
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: paying them off and we're like Scott Free. It's like, hey,

592
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is it like you bet

593
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: on yourself well and something. A lot of grinders, a

594
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: lot of many to our players and players going to

595
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Q school who don't have the back and do is

596
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, they'll just take out a new credit card

597
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: or they'll they'll swap some balances around to you know,

598
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: put all their their big expenses, they're big debts on

599
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: a low a low interest or no interest for a

600
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: year credit card and they take out a new one

601
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: and so um. Sometimes that's what you have to do.

602
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty common among the ranks of the many tours.

603
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: It's this is just you know again, I'm I'm so

604
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm so uh, I guess intrigued by how this is all,

605
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: how this is all unfolding and all the different stories

606
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: that were chronicling and your story. Episode one is like

607
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: a real quick you know, uh introduction into like how

608
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: real the ship is. Like this is no mess around,

609
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: not only for the health of your son, what your

610
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: wife has to go through on our own, what you're

611
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: dealing with out on the road, and the expenses that

612
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: you're quite you know accruing as you're going it's just

613
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: it's like you want to look into the grind. Episode

614
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: one is going to get you right there, right back.

615
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna get right into the heat, right. And the

616
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: good news is there is there is there is some

617
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: positive stuff that happens in episode two that that we're

618
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: also excited to share. And then that's kind of the

619
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: that's the other half of that. Like you know, when

620
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: you guys are giggling after sort of making the cut

621
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: at a T and T, which is going to happen

622
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: in episode two, that that to me, that's that's what

623
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: it's all about. Right, It's it's this versus that, and

624
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: it's the ups and the downs, and it's the you know,

625
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: like right, I mean that we're gonna get in between

626
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: the two episodes of your life, you get a real

627
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: fun run of the lows and the ups. Yeah, I

628
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: would imagine that viewers should get episode two was like

629
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: episode one. Would you know, it would probably become too

630
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: taxing to watch, you know, and I certainly wouldn't. I

631
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: don't think I can make any fans in the financial

632
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: decisions department, especially chiefly among them my wife. But yeah,

633
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: I think that's it is, is you know, you go

634
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: through stretches. And this is true of of really anybody

635
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: in golf, professional golf, or any any golfers in general.

636
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: Like you know, you go through stretches of where it's

637
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: just really hard and no matter what you do, no

638
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: matter who you see, no matter what advice you get,

639
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work. And then one day, all of

640
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, it clicks and it it makes all of

641
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: the struggles leading up to it worthwhile. The payoff, you know,

642
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: juice is worth the squeeze and and that payoff is

643
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: what you've been building to. Ryan, What's what like it

644
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: must you see a lot of these players up close,

645
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: follow their careers, see the highs and those the good scores,

646
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: bad scores. Like just part of you want to, you know,

647
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: like hit Mark in the head with a two pot

648
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: for and be like, come on, man, you got this,

649
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: You got this, You you can do this. Just get

650
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: it done. Is it? Part of you feel like come on,

651
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Sarah and Sarah are our friendship, The four of us

652
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: have a good friendship. Uh, it will end because I

653
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: keep getting marked to play another year, you know, so

654
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the one one day, So I

655
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: was gonna be like this is it it's over, but

656
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: it's like it. I mean, Mark is so talented and

657
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: has made three cuts and three PGA Tour events. But

658
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: I love this show because and I want to make

659
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: a point about the RSM. Monday is so Marco through

660
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: all of this. It wasn't the rs M whatever, the

661
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: Bermida one where it all started. And uh. The next

662
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: day we played with a guy named John Vanderlin, very

663
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: nice guy and him and his wife. Uh wife was

664
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: on the bag. Are they married? Okay? No wife? And

665
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: it struck me very much that Mark never brought it up,

666
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: like what he had gone through. And I at the end,

667
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: I go, hey, man, he like we didn't even talk,

668
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: or if he did, it was very much in passing,

669
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: like you know, Miles had some health issues but it's

670
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: all right or whatever. And uh and he said, I

671
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: mean everybody's going through stuff and that's the truth, right, Like, uh,

672
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: John has had his own stuff, Like this is the

673
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: reality of pro golf, Like everybody's going I mean, it's

674
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: life obviously, but pro Golf two is like there's you know,

675
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: the wife's on the back Sarah Caddy for those that

676
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: don't know. For a long time for Mark and uh,

677
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: and like there's the wife always being there to support

678
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: John and Sarah's their supporting Mark, and uh it that

679
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: that was something that always stuck with me, is that

680
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: conversations like everybody's going through something out there, and so

681
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: Mark saying, you know, making excuses like, oh, Mark, you

682
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: know Miles doesn't feel good. It doesn't matter. John doesn't

683
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: but not that he doesn't care. He's going through his

684
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: own stuff and you gotta you're out there, you have

685
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: a battle through it, someway. So, uh, this is this episode.

686
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: These two episodes are great. The highs and lows and

687
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: the carrot that hangs out there and the talent that

688
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: has played on many tour golf. Are you guys enjoying

689
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Are you guys enjoying the the the experience of of

690
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: of put is it at the end of the day,

691
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: it's it's been fun for you guys. This is the

692
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: main question for Sarah. The most fun. No, Um, I

693
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Anytime you can go through something and arriving

694
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: like this is just a classic story arc right, like

695
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: you go, you start in a place, you go through something,

696
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: and you arrive at a different place. Where you arrive

697
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: is not typically where you set out to arrive, but

698
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: you haven't. You have an experience, uh, and that can't

699
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: ever be taken away from you, and you're changed in

700
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: some way. And I think are where where we've it

701
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: all over the world. We you know, we've golf has

702
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: been very hard on us intimes, but it's also given

703
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: us things that have taken our I mean it's gonna sound,

704
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat cheesy, but like taking our love all

705
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: over the world, our love has survived, you know, the

706
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: hostels in rural China, and like taking us to the

707
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: jungles outside chang My to walk with elephants in the wild,

708
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: and we were actually charged, we were almost trampled by

709
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: wild elephants and we wouldn't even be having this conversation, right.

710
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: So this is just yet another experience that we have

711
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: that hopefully our love doesn't survive. You have to survive.

712
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Although I'm sure the times maybe reliving some of that

713
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: stuff in episode one and they feel that way, um,

714
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just it's a really interesting and

715
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: fun experience. I think that Miles will now when he

716
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: gets older, be able to look back on and note

717
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: more about his parents and uh and hopefully you know,

718
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: he'll he'll learn more about us, you know, in speaking,

719
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, for not for Ryan, but for for everybody

720
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: fire pit, and then for just the people that are

721
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: going to be watching this. But I I just want

722
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: to say thank you, thank you for being willing to

723
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, share this experience, these experiences, these real life moments,

724
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: uh two, for you know, sharing them with people you

725
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: don't even you know, no, I mean it's uh And

726
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: I think it's your kind of willingness to share this

727
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: and to be vulnerable and exposureselfs like this that allows

728
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: us the opportunity, us the golf fan or the storytellers

729
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: to learn about what's really happening, because most of this

730
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: is fairly veiled behind you know, computer screens, scorecards, you know,

731
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: numbers that are going up or down. You know, payouts

732
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: that may mean you know very little to someone who's

733
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, just taking a look, but may mean a

734
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: lot to you. You know, like it's just it's all

735
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: of this, uh and and and we know this through

736
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Ryan's account is interesting if I think people are allowed

737
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: to see it and watch it and live it with

738
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: you guys, And so I just want to say, you know,

739
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: thank you for being willing to share and trusting you

740
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: know us Ryan the fire Pit too, to share that story,

741
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: and it's just really powerful stuff, and especially when just

742
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: just that harsh reality of like what you guys are

743
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: actually dealing with is just heavy. Yeah, thank you Matt

744
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: and Ryan for taking an interest in us. UM. I

745
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: have this show not have been presented, have the camera's

746
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: not showed up to filming meditating? I don't At times.

747
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of the strength that that

748
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: led to some of the opportunities that came last year

749
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: because I continued to play and continue to look forward

750
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: to playing, and so I think I thank you for that, Um.

751
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: And as a golf fan, I'm really excited to see

752
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: other players process processes, and I think that's what I'm

753
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: most excited about. Obviously, you know, our story is one thing,

754
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: but there's there's a whole plethora of other players who

755
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: have different experiences and are going about it in unique

756
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: ways themselves and overcome their own grinds or go through

757
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: their own grinds. UM. And you know, I think the

758
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: timing of it all is perfect. Golf in at this

759
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: level is not covered extensively enough. And you the fire

760
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Pit Collective and Ryan are opening uh doors that we

761
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: haven't been behind before. So thank you. Okay, I'm gonna

762
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: bring this full circle. This is how it started. I

763
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I've told this or maybe you have.

764
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: Mark missed Q school and two thousand in twenty one.

765
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Mark the end of two thousand. I didn't text him

766
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: and we talked maybe two days later. For those that

767
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know, just leave. If someone misses at Q school,

768
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: just don't like ask how they're doing or or like

769
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: how it went. It's not going great, okay. So I

770
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: just gave him a couple of days to to uh

771
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: cool off. And he called me and he said, it's

772
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: just terrible timing. It rained in the desert. I didn't

773
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: have my rain gears, pouring rain played like crap. My

774
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: head wasn't in it. Just like it's miserable. It's as

775
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: miserable as I can. So I said, hey man, I

776
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: talked to Chris Hoff. Shout out Chris Hoff because he

777
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: is at the core of all of this, the beginning

778
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: of this show. And I said, hey man, would you

779
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: be willing to give Mark a thing if we do

780
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: a show about him? And He's like yeah, And Mark said,

781
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta think about this, you know, take

782
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: it a couple of times, and so, uh, you know,

783
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: he called me back two weeks later. I'm in. We

784
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: got Matt. You know, Matt has been involved. We got

785
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: we got going. But uh, you know, two weeks prior

786
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: to that, he uh, he was on the side of

787
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: the road because it was raining so hard on the

788
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: way to Q school and he was like way out

789
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: of it. He needed to shoot like sixty three to

790
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: get it. Like that's misery. And then we've had some

791
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: of the greatest experiences ever, Like we played Pebble, made

792
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: the cut, played with Steve Young, built friends forever. And

793
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is is I'll go back to the

794
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: conversation we had the first baracoot up up and he,

795
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, Mark said, uh, no matter what, man, I

796
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: can say that this was all worth it. I made

797
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: a cut on the PGA tour and I was good

798
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: enough to be out here. And so that's why these

799
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: guys and girls on the other side are are ound

800
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: here for that moment I was going to leave. You know,

801
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: the listeners, viewers, consumers of this this content, knowing that

802
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: episode one is is that look. Episode two goes on

803
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: to be way more uplifting and positive. And there's some

804
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: really cool moments and some very cool people involved. Ben Rector,

805
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: Peter Jacobson, Fluff for Ryan his idol Um and Steve

806
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: Young a T and T Pebble Beach, you know bogey

807
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: free rounds at Spyglass, you know birding four out of

808
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: the last five holes at mpc C. I mean, really

809
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: special stuff. So on that note, this concludes this podcast

810
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: as we gave for and wait for what will be

811
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: episode two and the next podcast mark final words, final word,

812
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: thank you. It takes it really does take a village

813
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: and up until the really up until I met Ryan

814
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: and connected with fire Pit Collective. UM the you hear

815
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: pro golfers talk about their teams. I mean all athletes

816
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: have teams around them. This right here my beautiful life

817
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: and I uh and her family and my family essentially

818
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: were my team for the longest time up until that point.

819
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: And there's my favorite novel, Shantram. There's Uh. The lead

820
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: character ends up in a slum in Bombay and Uh

821
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: he's on the run from the law and he feels

822
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: deeply guilty for his sins in the past, and someone

823
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: who has nothing comes and offers him meals and basically

824
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: a way to survive, and he can't accept it. This

825
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: is why are you doing this? I'm going to say,

826
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: because if other people didn't do this for us, we

827
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: couldn't survive. We'd have no way to live. And and

828
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: it really does take a community in a village and

829
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: everybody pitching in UM and her you know, her family

830
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: has been so incredibly generous and it's just really glazed

831
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: over in episode one, but you know, her family gave

832
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: us a shelter, put a roof for over over our heads,

833
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: gave us a place to live for my time on

834
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: the corn Ferry tour UM and without that, I wouldn't

835
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: be able to continue to chase it. So a lot

836
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: on the way they're just there have been a lot

837
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: of people. But I'm just so incredibly thankful and incredibly excited,

838
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: uh for the grind and the show, and thank you

839
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: for everyone that's watching and sharing us all on great stuff.

840
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Awesome. It's the coolest thing to

841
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: see it all come. Uh. We get wrapped up in

842
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: all of all of this, getting podcasts ready and and

843
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: the show ready, and we've had a million meetings. Matt

844
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: has had twelve million meetings about this show and UH,

845
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, UH, I've I got

846
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: to Katy on the PGA tour for a great friend. UH,

847
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: it's it's to see it come to this and give

848
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes of what pro golf is like.

849
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Is it's pretty and cool, pretty pretty off and cool.

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Speaker 1: It's been a wild, wild ride. Sarah, Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: know this is not your idea way to spend the

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Speaker 1: day afternoon, but we appreciate, appreciate you and UH and

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Speaker 1: all that you've done to make all that. Honestly, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys as well. Like this opportunity. Although it's like

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Speaker 1: scary to be in front of the camera and share

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Speaker 1: my life, it has been really cool and we've met

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Speaker 1: really cool people, and Ryan and your family have been amazing,

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Speaker 1: So it's it's been good. Camera loves you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Camera loves you. And the grind continues, and the grind

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Speaker 1: goes up.