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Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you coming rocking with us. You know, big

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Speaker 1: the show. And this is kind of new to us

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Speaker 2: Fresh you freshented this year.

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Speaker 1: What was that game that you played against one of

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Speaker 2: I couldn't really stop him. Yeah, I think I asked

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Speaker 2: Got good hands, strong, can't just really bull him. So

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Speaker 3: We live on location this time we here in city

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Speaker 2: Year, the duke stand out.

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Speaker 3: Seattle's on low bang Caro in the building.

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Speaker 2: Man. We appreciate you putting up, young fellow. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: With Yah.

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Speaker 1: Seattle Washington. Lately these last couple of decades.

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Speaker 2: Seattle trying to rap Seattle. Seattle have been pushing them

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Speaker 1: Like how is it like being you knowing the Seattle history,

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Speaker 2: Shout out, young mall gotta been down in Northwest.

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Speaker 1: Northwest is beautiful man. So represent the Northwest in the league.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot. It means a lot for me,

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of times, even for me, like

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Speaker 3: They hit different for you, Like like it's really like

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Speaker 3: At what point did you have to make that decision?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh so I wasn't ever like super tall,

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Speaker 3: So that was around town when y'all was dunking that thing.

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Speaker 2: win in state? Nah? Nah? They's been always a powerhouse

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Speaker 3: How much do you feel like like your parents helped you,

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Speaker 3: you just sounded like you were showing in those moments,

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Speaker 3: I feel like your mom and dad and your family

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Speaker 2: Where do you think you got that from? Yeah? I

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Speaker 2: You know, they let me make mistakes, They let me

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Speaker 2: Yeah now I heard it heard For me, it stung

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Speaker 2: That, Nah? I thought it was dope. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: not trying to do too much, you know, putting the

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00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: ball on the floor less, you know, playing off the catch.

434
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean he like before I even got the duke,

435
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 2: like I never shot like catch shoot threes. Like everything

436
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: for me was off the dribble, catching whole iso, like

437
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: go get a bugget like that's all I wanted to do. Yeah, exactly.

438
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: And so like when I got to school, he was like,

439
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: you just need to clean up your game, like especially

440
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: for college. Like he's telling me, like, look, you'll be

441
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: able to do more of this when you get to

442
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: the next level, but for right now, to be as

443
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: efficient as you can be, you know in college in

444
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: this league and acc like got to hit the catch,

445
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: shoot three, gotta be quicker the decision maker off to catch,

446
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 2: and then you just got to dominate. He was always

447
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: on me, like more more power over for nets. And

448
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: at first I didn't like to hear that, Like I

449
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: was like, man, like, I don't know. But as the

450
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: season kept going, like it just started to show and

451
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: the way I was playing, you know, he's he I

452
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: play and have a good game, and he's coming to me.

453
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: We're watching film the next day and he's, man, see

454
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: this is why I've been telling you, like, this is

455
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: why we do what we do. I mean, he's he's

456
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: making me stay after practice, you know, putting putting me

457
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: through workouts, like telling the coaches what to do with me.

458
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: And so that's why I really got to just see him,

459
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: like see how he really is as coach. You know,

460
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: some people just think he's you know, for the cameras

461
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: or you know, just whatever, might be overrated as a coach,

462
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: but I mean he was really there for me every day.

463
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, he's not rebounding for me, but he's telling

464
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: the coaches what drills I need to be doing, you know,

465
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: what I need to work on, and everything translated.

466
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: Everything works. So explain to us that the game. We're

467
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: like all the Duke alumni it was there game. Yeah,

468
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: how the hell could you play? Like how like just

469
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: seeing the history of of what's before you, all of

470
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: the NBA Hall of Famers Championships, Like, what was that

471
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: for you to be in that moment and seeing that.

472
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was a lot. It was a lot.

473
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: It was a lot. Like I played in a lot

474
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: of games Final four, but that one was different just because,

475
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: like you said, it was like forty fifty them and

476
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: you just looking it's Jay Williams, grand Hill, Shane Battier,

477
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: Carlos Boozer, Mike like every dude great you could think

478
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: of in sitting right behind our bench. And so it

479
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: was just a lot that came with the game. It

480
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: was a lot during the week building up to the game.

481
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: How was that whole week going to it? I mean

482
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: it was a lot. And it was also kind of

483
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: we just kind of fell victim to you know, we

484
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: had beat Carolina about thirty the game before in their place,

485
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: So I would say the whole team, players and even

486
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: coaches a little bit, we just kind of were a

487
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: little more relaxed because we just smacked them. They're coming

488
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: to play us at our place. It's coach kh game,

489
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: like we just we just know we're not losing this game.

490
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: And so but then once the game came, and then

491
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: it was like all the players come on the court.

492
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: They all high five and the guys and like it

493
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: was just a lot. It was a lot, like you

494
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: kind of realize and then the game starts and you're hooping,

495
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: and then like but then once it got tightened, like

496
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: once they got a little bit of momentum Carolina did,

497
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: it was just hard because you would just feel the

498
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: air getting sucked out the arena every time they scored.

499
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: And so it's just the pressure just built, built, built.

500
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you looking and you're like, it's this is

501
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: not happening now with all of this going on, like

502
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: everything became.

503
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: Heavy, Everything became heavy, exactly in North Carolina. Every this

504
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: is the opposite for them. They just want to spoil it.

505
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: So they locked in hooping, you know, just trying to

506
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: spoil the spoil the moment in which they did.

507
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: I heard you say that, like for you, you kind

508
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: of felt like you in the fishbowl, Like what was that?

509
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: I had never really heard and always you know, I

510
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: felt obviously, I think any you know, all American or whatever,

511
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: we get a little more attention to things like that.

512
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: But I didn't go to it. I went to.

513
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: Deputypaulit not like Dukee, you know what I'm saying where

514
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: it's like kind of like that fanatical thing. So like

515
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: to hear you say that, like I felt like you

516
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: was being honest. I wanted to like, what was that

517
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: like for you to be this number one guy?

518
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: This coming in the whole world, not just your school.

519
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: Everybody knows this kid is probably gonna be the number

520
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: one pick right away. Like how was that to come

521
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: on campus and to come into you know, a small

522
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: community like that and the be this this big thing

523
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: that's coming in there and being seen like that.

524
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: What was that like for you? Yeah, it was it

525
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: was different. It was different for me just being in

526
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: Seattle my whole life. Everybody knows me, everybody knows my family.

527
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: I live in the middle of the city, so like

528
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: I know everybody really parents know everybody, so I don't.

529
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: I never got treated like a celebrity in Seattle. It

530
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: was just everybody knows Paolo. You know, I've been around

531
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: and so going to do you get there and everybody

532
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: looks at you just like a superstar, rock star, the rockstar,

533
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: and so it's it's a lot of positives, a lot

534
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: of negatives, but I mean it was overall positive for

535
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: me just because I got to experience that, and I

536
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: got to learn how to just handle myself in a

537
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: different environment. It was an environment I never been around,

538
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: you know, a prestigious school like that. Like school was

539
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: kicking my ass. I'm searching for help, like, man, this

540
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: is this is hard. But now people people were welcoming.

541
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: They welcomed me. Yeah, family and around around the university.

542
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: It was just always love. I mean, it was a

543
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: lot of pictures, a lot of you know, just coming up.

544
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: Like I think I had told a story like people

545
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: bringing their family to my dorm room stuff like that.

546
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: Was that, Yeah, like you're chilling in the dorm like

547
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: and I understand it's twenty twenty three. It's a whole

548
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: social media movement and everything, and I feel like I

549
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: was like a big deal in colleg Ain't nobody never

550
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: bought their family to my dorm room.

551
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Bro, No, that was different. But that that just kind

552
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: of makes you like, after it happens, you're just like okay,

553
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: Like you see, it just makes you be careful. Like

554
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: even though I'm in college and supposed to have fun,

555
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: I still had to be careful. I still had to

556
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: move right and make sure I'm doing the right things

557
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: because it was so much much your eyes on me,

558
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: Like everything I did when I went out to a party,

559
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: people will be recording and stuff like that. So it

560
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: just taught me in college how to handle myself when

561
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: I got to the pros because everybody's always watching. Everybody's

562
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: kind of waiting for you to do something, so you

563
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: just gotta be careful.

564
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: And so it helped me. You decide to go pro

565
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: and you choose an agent. Your agent is Mike Miller.

566
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: In the same draft class as us, so we know

567
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: Mike for a long long time.

568
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: So we know the.

569
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Hoop Mike and and I go back and the Mike

570
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: off the court and all that stuff. Yeah, you go

571
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: way back with Mike. But how is Mike Miller as

572
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: an agent? Please tell me what is good time?

573
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: Might we know? He couldn't even known. I know, I

574
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: already know. Ain't nothing changed about his cool.

575
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: He's still Tom.

576
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: He's still He's still He's still Mike for sure. But

577
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: now as an agent, I mean, he's everything you could

578
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: ask for. When he was making his pitch, you know,

579
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: he was just saying, how you know nobody's really see

580
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: the game like him. You know, he's lived it, he's

581
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: experienced it. He has, you know, all these relationships everywhere

582
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA, players, executives, whoever, coaches, and I mean

583
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: he's just helped me tremendously every every aspect. Like that's

584
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: the thing, Like most agents are agents, you know. They

585
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: most of his stuff is on the business side. They

586
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: know you know all about that, you know, and they'll

587
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: be able to tell you some pieces of advice here

588
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: and there. But there's literally nothing I can't ask Mike

589
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: or go to him about that he don't know about

590
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: or don't know somebody who can help me out. And

591
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: he's just been, you know, full fully open the whole time.

592
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean our relationship started when he was coaching at

593
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Memphis and I was in high school and he was

594
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: the first coach to offer me a scholarship outside of

595
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve. So he got in contact with me

596
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: early I was like a sophomore and recruiting me pretty hard.

597
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: We built a relationship. Then then I ended up going

598
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: to Duke and he ended up leaving, and then kind

599
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: of he just would always check in, see how I'm doing,

600
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: see how the season is going, and uh, then he

601
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: he became an agent and kind of just pitched that

602
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: to me and shoot, I vetted it. I did all

603
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: interview with a bunch of different agencies, and Mike was

604
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Mike was was the best choice for me. Shout out

605
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: to Mike Cool, Mike Man middle of times. That's the thing.

606
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: Like he put me through workouts. He you know, doing

607
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: stuff that regular agents don't.

608
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: I worked out. It was crazy. I worked out against

609
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Mike in Orlando.

610
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Here we all mar Jos.

611
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: It was one of the dopest workouts period that year.

612
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: He was going crazy. But me and Mike go back man.

613
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: Me and Mike was same year at high school. Outously,

614
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: we went different camps against each other. Then we go

615
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: to uh McDonald's, the hoops something.

616
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: Then we went Overseas with the USA team.

617
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: When you go to like you know, the the what

618
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: is it the said teams, Junior Nationals or whatever.

619
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: We went to portera PLoud. He was my roommate. We

620
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: want to go what was he like back then? Mike

621
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: was cool.

622
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: He a funny story about Mike though, Like Mike was cold,

623
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: Mike Miller was cold boss six eight sixty nine with

624
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: a handle right bro. We playing for the team USA team.

625
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: Jim Beheim is our head coach and I ain't never

626
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: knew Jim Behind, met him before that, none of that.

627
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

628
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Jim Behind like a chill dude. Look you

629
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: know you see the glass. I don't know a thing

630
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: about him. I just know what I'm saying. I'm not

631
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: knowing he he get after like this boy Mike Miller

632
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: out there doing this stuff. We made we made the

633
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: team in our list. So we get to wherever I

634
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: think it was. I think we had like camping Dallas

635
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: in New York. Man, we was at one of the

636
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: practice and you asked him. I can't remember. I think

637
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: he was from south South Dakota, South Dakota, like South Dakota, right,

638
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: he started South Dakota right. But like Miller, time had

639
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: like funky, he had funk. He come down, he was

640
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: booking people. Man, that boy got a rebound, did something

641
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: went in the end with it, behind the back wrapped

642
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: that thing.

643
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: Did something. Man Behind blew the whistle went crazy on him.

644
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, like maam crazy.

645
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: Like you ask him, bro, I'm telling you, Behind went

646
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: he went crazy. We all was like god damn. Like

647
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: from then on, I was like, I didn't know Behind

648
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: adn't play that shit boy. He was one of them

649
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: coaches did go crazy and I didn't know that before then,

650
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: Like I was like, how the funk I'm about to

651
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: play for this? We ended up winning go But like

652
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: Miller of time, miller Town was cart new then I played.

653
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: Then he went to Florida, went to depart We played

654
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: each other and in college and everything.

655
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Then we came out. But like miller Town was one

656
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: of them boys you then got.

657
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: He got picked fifth, right, and then he wanted to

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: win the Rookie of the Year. Yeah, Like he came

659
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: here with t Mac and they had a rapport and

660
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: they head off.

661
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: He got to play right away. Michael. Michael was cold,

662
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: Middletown was cut.

663
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Now you're about to get ready to go to the draft.

664
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: They saying it's a possibility you can be the number

665
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: one pick. Did you Did you ever think that that? Like,

666
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: oh man, they talking about me being the number one pick.

667
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, they didn't start saying that till the

668
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: day of the draft. It was crazy how it all happened. Yeah,

669
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: it was crazy. I mean they hell that secret tight.

670
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was just an interesting process for me.

671
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: I really thought I was going third. Maybe maybe second,

672
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: but really third, like that was my whole My head

673
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: was at the whole pre draft, but that's just what

674
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: everybody was saying. Still is the process of that. Did

675
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: you work out for Orlando? No? I didn't.

676
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I didn't work out for because I might always be

677
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: that it always been the team that you don't work

678
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: out for the draft.

679
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: I remember sitting there, like obviously at that time, I'm

680
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: still doing the broadcast thing for the Magic, so I'm

681
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: paying extra tention to what.

682
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna do.

683
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm just reading all this stuff. I say, Oh,

684
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: now they're saying it's about to be be Parlo out

685
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: of the blue.

686
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: I had the same reaction though. That's the craziest part,

687
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: Like like the whole, Like I said, I worked out

688
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: for Okay, seeing Houston, I didn't work out for Ortlando,

689
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: and so did those workouts. Both of them went really well,

690
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: and so I was comfortable where I was at. I

691
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: really wasn't even tripping. I wasn't gonna go number one.

692
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I'm ready to get drafted

693
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: and get to work like and so I remember like

694
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: a week leading up to the draft where you go

695
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: to New York, you go to New York like seven

696
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: days before the draft start, because you got the whole

697
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: week and so yeah, and so the whole week, like

698
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: the Magic front office is like, you know, call the mic,

699
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: blowing them up, like, man, can we get Pollo to

700
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: come down here? Like could we get them on something?

701
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Like we can we talk to them? Like Mike's like, man,

702
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we're good where we're at, Like unless y'all

703
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, unless y'all serious, unless like there's a chance,

704
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: because no one's saying that, like nobody is saying that

705
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: I even have a shot to go number one. So

706
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: Mike's like, well, if you guys are serious, maybe, and

707
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: just they just kept being persistent. So Mike came to

708
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: me like two three days before it was like Pete,

709
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: like they wouldn't be blowing my line up if they

710
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: wasn't really considering you to go number one. He was like,

711
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: so you want to get on a like a zoom call.

712
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean

713
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: at this point you know what I'm saying this point. Yeah,

714
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: So got on zoom call with Jeff John coach Moses

715
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: on there and it went really well. And I was

716
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: like two days before and so the next two days

717
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: I really didn't even talk to Mike, like he was

718
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: just working, like he was on the phone, you know,

719
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: talking standing up all night for the next forty eight hours.

720
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: But I meant, even when I woke up on Draft Day,

721
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: like I was ninety percent sure I knew where I

722
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: was going. I thought I was probably gonna go third, uh,

723
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: And I was cool with it. I was happy, shit hello,

724
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: emotional the whole day. And then I got to the arena.

725
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, in the draft they do the

726
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: intros where you go out there with your family, you

727
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: walk on the stage and introduce you. So they got

728
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: all the guys backstage with their mom and dad, you know,

729
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: to walk out. And so I'm back there with my

730
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: mom and dad, and they got TV's back there. It's

731
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: like thirty forty minutes befo the draft start, and they

732
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: got the NBA Today crew like Woes and Kendrick Perkins

733
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: and all them on there, and I could see it's

734
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: muted though you you can't hear the TV, but it's muted,

735
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: and I could see me on there and it says

736
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: like Palo Bankero like in the Running like now in

737
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: the Running to go number one and they got the

738
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: subtitles on there, so I'm reading what Woe was just saying.

739
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, and mind you, I ain't really checked my phone.

740
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: It's draft day. I'm just in a moment, so I'm watching.

741
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, wait, I tap my parents. I'm

742
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: like look, and they're like, my dad checked his phone

743
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: and he see a tweet that wol was put out

744
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: like Apollo, like, now he's in there, it's a possibility.

745
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: So then I just got all the way nervous. I

746
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: was cool, calm and collected the whole day. Thought I

747
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: was going third. I'm good that came in. I saw

748
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: that and I started tripping, like sweating. I started my

749
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: heart started beating. So I'm like so then the next

750
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, man, I'm sitting at the table just like

751
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: I can't sit straight. I'm moving. Mike come and sit

752
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: next to me. He not making it no better because

753
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: he on the phone. I'm asking him what's going on.

754
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I don't know. He was like, man,

755
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: just stay ready, like like it might happen. So I'm like, man,

756
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm stressing. I don't know what's about to happen. And

757
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: then time went by and then like five minutes before

758
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: he was like, it's is done, they call and then yeah, man,

759
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: I almost I couldn't. I couldn't even hold myself together.

760
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: Number one pick in the NBA Draft. It was crazy.

761
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: That was a dream come true. Huh. I really couldn't

762
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: believe it, Like when he told me it was official

763
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: and then you hear that, you know, that little dying.

764
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: It had to be crazy a few because, like you said,

765
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: like regardless of everything you did during the season, like

766
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: leading everything leading up was saying that Jabbari chet was

767
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: gonna be one, and like you said, you had even

768
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: a young man got comfortable saying I'm three, I'm cool

769
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: with this. It's still ecstatic. It's still crazy. But like

770
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: for that emotional swing, how was that, man?

771
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: It was I never felt nothing like that, like for real,

772
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: Like like I said, I pride myself on always being

773
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, cool and controlling my emotions at all times,

774
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: and like I couldn't. And he told me that. I

775
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: really was sweating as soon as I heard my name,

776
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Like I seen my whole life just flash before my eyes,

777
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: like from being a young kid playing basketball all the

778
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, just yeah, you know, long nights sitting in

779
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: the bed like thinking about sing. Everything just flashed before

780
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: my eyes and I remember I started crying. I ain't

781
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: never in my life cried like tears and georgs So

782
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: it just took me, took me over and but no,

783
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: that was the best moment of my life for sure.

784
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: Tell me this. I want to know because I was there.

785
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I was on a red carpet, you know what I'm saying.

786
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I had my love, I was suited and booted and whatnot.

787
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't like this man.

788
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: I want to know what was the inspo and how

789
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: did you pick out the suit?

790
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: Because what was on it?

791
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: It was because like listen, literally you know how y'all

792
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: was lined up coming around. We saw him like everybody like,

793
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: it's all of these like the whole red carp it's.

794
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: All these lines and cameras and everything. Dah dah dah.

795
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: So I forget who I was next to. I was.

796
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: I was there for New Year. I think I was

797
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: next to Like, I don't even remember who was whoever

798
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: I was next to. We all like we when we

799
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: saw him come in sixteen, man had on a purple

800
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: suit that wasn't the best of it. The man had

801
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: the suit had like diamonds or something like bro but

802
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: like from deep you can't see what.

803
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: The hell it is. We all we everybody guessing taken.

804
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm like, man, look that might be some

805
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: czs that main't real diamonds.

806
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: They a real I said, I don't.

807
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: Know what the hell they in shape of, but them

808
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: better not. I said, I know people that went haim

809
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: at the dry I stay, but listen, they main't real.

810
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: So we what was it? They wasn't real diamonds. It

811
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: was I think there was rhyme songs like whatever. Maybe

812
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: it was it was like a Doe Changer Bona suit

813
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: in it. Yeah, I said, I wanted a purple suit

814
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: like that was that was official. That's what I wanted. Yeah, yeah,

815
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: because that's where my parents went in. Purple also always

816
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: been one of my favorite colors. And so now you're

817
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: repping I got that same suit right there. Yeah. So,

818
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: but so I wanted a purple one and I had

819
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: my people on it whatever, and so they got me

820
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: like three different ones, and so it was that one

821
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: and then the other two was like the darkest shade

822
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: of purple, like it was just a lame type purple. Yeah,

823
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: like and I seen that one and I've seen the

824
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: arnstones on it, on the pants and the jacket, and

825
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: I was like.

826
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: What were the what was the design of the what

827
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: was was it a shape or what was it?

828
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Nah? Man, shoot, I don't know it was. I mean

829
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: they pulled it out, they showed me and they was like, man,

830
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: you like it. I was like, yeah, I like that,

831
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah. I tried it on, and you know

832
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: how we had our little chains and stuff at the joint.

833
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: Big boy Ice, big boy Ice. I need to hear

834
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: about the ice. The boy it was it was P

835
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: five P five on there. Hey, nah boy, I'm talking

836
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: about chunky. That was. That was the the suit was

837
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: the was the loudest thing. The very second.

838
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: Thing was the big boy big Cuban link, big Cuban

839
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: jonk with the big chunky peep all Ice.

840
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: You was.

841
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: Look, you look like the young boy we call ourselves

842
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: from the Ice age.

843
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: Boy.

844
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: You fit right in here. Boy, hey, listen, tell me

845
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: about the tell me about the all that. How did

846
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: you put the whole fit together?

847
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I should. It was draft day like I had

848
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: the biggest best like I told the jeweler like, look,

849
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: I want the biggest PENI the biggest.

850
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 5: That thing was chunky black. So that thing from I said,

851
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 5: God damn. And it wasn't just him and they were

852
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: listen the chains and watch game.

853
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: At last year's draft, I put it up there with

854
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: anybody's draft.

855
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: Hey, what's the boy Jayleen Durrink. He was out there

856
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: that draft day right there. Everybody get their chain, jewelry

857
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: put on whatever, Like that's what it's all about. If

858
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: you asked me, like.

859
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: That's that's how it is the best life.

860
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: You like.

861
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: So after the draft, you get announced that you were

862
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: signing with Jordan Brown. When you heard you had the

863
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to sign with Dan, how was that for you?

864
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: You know, this is the prestigious, this is the brand

865
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: all brands him.

866
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: J Yeah, Tim young boys. No, that was that was

867
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: another just experience right there, you know, because I wasn't

868
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: sure who I was gonna sign with, and uh, Jordan.

869
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy because so one of my like parents, close

870
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: family friends is called my uncle Cliff, but he's down

871
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: by Jordan rep. But he worked for Jordan. He's worked

872
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: for Nike for twenty plus years and now he's over

873
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: with Jordan. He works on the football side Okay, so

874
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: he all the football athletes in the NFL, that's what Jordan.

875
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: He the rep and all the football schools, that's Jordan College.

876
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: He go checking on them. He's a rep. So they

877
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: let him come over to the basketball side and rep

878
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: me because I've known him since I was eight years

879
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: old and so like that's that's family and family in

880
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: the company.

881
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: It's only rightel So tell us about all this gear,

882
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: the first Jordan stuff he's said in that first.

883
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: Look Wow, first that first care package. Nah, it was fire.

884
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's love. Shoot, he's all and

885
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: he always looked out like growing up, like he always

886
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: was saying me, my siblings, my parents' Nike gear, Jordan

887
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: gear like it was. It was never nothing for him,

888
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: like he always was looking out on different levels exactly.

889
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: So now it's just now we're really in business together

890
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: and I'm really being rapped by him. It's crazy how

891
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: life works.

892
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: Like how do it feel like to get like I

893
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: saw you got pees of desion or whatever. This is

894
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: stuff is like pre your own shoe because it's literally

895
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: your own shoe, but it's not being.

896
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: Sold in that type of stelf.

897
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: So like, how do it feel to be on that

898
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: side of it, not like from being that kid that

899
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, whatever you might have bought Kd's, Lebron's Kyrie,

900
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: whatever you bought to like now you getting delivered you

901
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: know Jordan's you know what I'm saying with your pe

902
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: symbol and you had whatever you had to do with

903
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: the colors and all of those different things, Like how

904
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: is that for you to now be in that position

905
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: that you know, all of us you know when we

906
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: trying to who we dream and about all of those

907
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: parts of it, like having a contract getting the doors

908
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: was like now you actually walking that walking and living

909
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: in it and doing it at a crazy level like

910
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: with Jordan Brand and all that.

911
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: How does that feel? No, it's a dream come true.

912
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Like that's all I can say. I mean to take

913
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: that quick story. But before I even signed, when I

914
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: was still deciding it was really it really came down

915
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: to Jordan Adidas. It was a final two and I

916
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: remember I was at the airport and uh, Jamal Carford,

917
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: one of my big big brother shout out young. He

918
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: calls me and he's like, Pee, how you being here? Yeah?

919
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: I hadn't talked to him in a little man. I was

920
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: like I'm good. He was like, man, you know who

921
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: just called me? I was like, man, who he was like, man,

922
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: MJ called. He was like, he called me about you,

923
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: And he was like man, he was like, first off,

924
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: he don't ever call me about really anything, Like he don't.

925
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to talk to him sometimes. He

926
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: was like, but he called me asking about you, you

927
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: and you know, talking about how much he liked you,

928
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: like your game. He was like, man, you got to

929
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: sign with him, Like it's a cold look like MJ

930
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: gonna take care of his family, YadA YadA. And that

931
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: did it for me, like when he told me that,

932
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: and Maul you know, co signed it, Like that's all

933
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: it took. And then just the pees and stuff is

934
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: really a dream come true though, because just having like

935
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: the colors and the stuff be you know, specific to

936
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: me and my story and you know, the things I

937
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: grew up doing, like for instance, the Rainyer Ravens, Like

938
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: just for that to even get put on a Jordan's

939
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: shoe and I get to wear it and uh against

940
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers, Like it's just a dream come true. And

941
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: I've had a bunch of people hit me up, you know,

942
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: asking to get the shoe, and I'm like, man, I

943
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: wish I really could. You know, they only made one

944
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: on one, but like, I wish I could give it

945
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: to everybody, because it's a lot of people from sid

946
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: from Seattle who know me my whole life, who watched

947
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: me play for the Ravens and had little their little

948
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: cousins or the selves played for the Ravens and so

949
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: got After.

950
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: You win the Rookie of the Year, you just go

951
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: to the brand and say, let me get the friends

952
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: and family you know for my Yeah, you know, just

953
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 3: friends just as my reward, you know, friends and family

954
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: just for the you know, select you and you go

955
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: handspread that around.

956
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: So Orlando, how you loving Orlando City? Beautiful?

957
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, we live in Orlando. I'm not going nowhere.

958
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live in Orlando forever. But how you loving

959
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: Orlando and the fans in the city. I love it

960
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: out here.

961
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: I love everything, the weather, the fans, the city, just

962
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: the vibe, like it's not too it's not too crazy,

963
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: but at the same time, it's it's not dead. It's

964
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: stuff going on, it's people around, so it's just a

965
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: dope vibe all the time. And then just the fans

966
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: that like just everything's trending upwards. I feel like out

967
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: here growing like crazy. Yeah, so I mean my family

968
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: loves coming out here. I love being out here. You know,

969
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad I got drafted here. You know some of

970
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: the cities you visit, you damn damn if I'm living here,

971
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't know how it would be. So in fact,

972
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: ill get to be out here. Man, it's it's dope.

973
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?

974
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 3: I don't even know what the call it is the

975
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: training center or whatever, but that shit is ridiculous. And

976
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: the craziest part is that y'all didn't even need it

977
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: the amway ain't but just oh we just opened that

978
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: bitch up and I got like, listen, how do it feel?

979
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: Bro?

980
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: You gotta see it when I say, the first time

981
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: I walked in there, I'm looking around like like this

982
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: don't look like a like a that's not the normal

983
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: training facility. Then to see the amenities and the things

984
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: that they have, Like how do it feel to walk

985
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: in the door as a rookie and you got this

986
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: brand new, like above super state of the art facility.

987
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: There's just nobody has ever even sets foot in it.

988
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: Before you get up in there, Like, how was that

989
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: to be at that type of a facility every day

990
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: and you got full access whenever you want.

991
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a blessing. I mean that's I mean, that's

992
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: what you That's all you can ask for as a rookie,

993
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: as an NBA player, being able to walk in there.

994
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: You don't know no better. He ain't seen nothing like that. Remember,

995
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: we came from you, like.

996
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: For just for perspective, right, show you how blessed you

997
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: Me and him getting drafted as rookies. Now, I was

998
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: at depart he was in high school. Neither one of

999
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: our practice situations was ship exactly. And we went bikewards.

1000
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: We went to a Southwest Junior college. That's where you

1001
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: got practicing, Yes, south Central LA. And it's no disrespect

1002
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: because we had love for them. They they looked out

1003
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: for make sure we were straight everybody there. But like

1004
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: this the NBA, we came from the hood. We weren't

1005
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: supposed to still be in the hood. Like that was

1006
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: us walking in the door. We're getting you walking into

1007
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: what you walking like three cosset goals, bro, Like size

1008
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: of three cost goals, bro. But it's man, Listen, I

1009
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: don't even know how to explain it. They are any

1010
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: thing you could possibly need.

1011
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: No, that's the other thing, Like you don't gotta leave,

1012
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: like any any therapy, any any sleep mint, the sleep

1013
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: food kitchen, the wasts in the in the pool, to

1014
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: the they got heal you could run, they got turf field. Bro,

1015
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: it's everything in there. It's crazy. I told I told

1016
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: one of the homies.

1017
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: I was like, remember the one story we all saw

1018
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: with Chad Johnson, was like I slept in the rental,

1019
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: Like you could legit do that here. You could not

1020
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: buy a place. They got. They got areas like when

1021
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: you do two days of training. I don't even know

1022
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 3: they do that no more. We used to do that,

1023
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: like we used to sleeping bats. They would give us

1024
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: if you want to stay like nah. They got rooms

1025
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: called sleep pod rooms for them to go in there

1026
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: and sleep like you at.

1027
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: Google or something.

1028
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: Bro, like you spell me like bro, you can for real, dude,

1029
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: and chat Ojo Siko is talking about Lil that chef

1030
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: come to us like A Like Bro, it's like a

1031
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: It's like a corporate lunch room.

1032
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: When you first come down, when you hit that elevator,

1033
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: come up, it's like.

1034
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: First time I ever came there, I was like, nah,

1035
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell I'm going I was

1036
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 3: just studying there, like waiting to see somebody ill knew,

1037
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: like hey, oh hey, what if?

1038
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Like this is crazy?

1039
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: How was it for you to come to a team

1040
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: that has young guys that wanted to prove theyselves too,

1041
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: Like you had a lot of guys on this team.

1042
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: This is not a fairly veteran team.

1043
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: A lot of guys have been in the league a

1044
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: couple of years, but they still trying to prove theyself.

1045
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: In the league.

1046
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: Like y'all look real fun to watch, you know, to

1047
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: be a part of a team like that, they come

1048
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: they looking for you to come in and bring something

1049
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: to the table, and I can see in your game,

1050
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, your patience and what you do.

1051
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: So how was that? Nah? It was good for me.

1052
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: Like you said, they all been in the league a

1053
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: couple of years, but we're all relatively young, and everybody's hungry.

1054
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: So it just made it to be even more competitive.

1055
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: You know, guys got each other's backs because you know,

1056
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: guys know what they want to do and what they

1057
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: want to get to the best way for us to

1058
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: everyone to get what they want is for us to win,

1059
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: and so we all have to come together and figure

1060
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: out how to win. And I think that's what we've

1061
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: been doing. You know. We started off with a lot

1062
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: of injuries. We was like five and twenty. I just

1063
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: remember it being rough, like yeah, kind of looking around

1064
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: like this, kind of like is this how it's gonna go? Like, yeah,

1065
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, we're losing six seven and lost in your life, yeah, exactly,

1066
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: And so it was tough, like it really was, even

1067
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: though I was playing really well, just losing you know,

1068
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: six seven in a row, you know, we all just

1069
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: kind of was I mean, it wasn't healthy. So it

1070
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: kind of was like we felt we felt almost sorry

1071
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: for ourselves a little bit because we're like, man, like

1072
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: we're not even healthy, we can't get a win. Then

1073
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: we finally got more kel back, and when he came back,

1074
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, a lot changed and we started winning. We

1075
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: ran off like seventh straight, eighth straight. We beat Bossing

1076
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: back to back in their place, and like that's kind

1077
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: of when we all was like, Okay, you know, when

1078
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: we're at full strength, we can tell it to anybody.

1079
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: And in the games we're losing, we losing in the

1080
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: final possessions and we feel like we could win a

1081
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: lot of the games were losing. So it just showed

1082
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: us we started learning how to win. And I think

1083
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's what we've been doing. I mean,

1084
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: I know we started out like I said, five and twenty,

1085
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: but since then, I think we're like, I know, we

1086
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: above five hundred. So we've been playing well. Coach Mo.

1087
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: Ill tell you a story about Coach MO. So when

1088
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: I was going out of college, going out of high school,

1089
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: I visited Colorado, which is where he went. He was

1090
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: my host on my visit.

1091
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: Yes, Ricardo Patton was the head coach, and he was

1092
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 3: like the he was the best player slash senior on

1093
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: the team and he's my host.

1094
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: Showed me around the whole weekend and that was like

1095
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: how I first ever met Coach MO.

1096
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: So like just watching him as been you know, cool

1097
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: for me to see him come, you know, first get

1098
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: the job and get the opportunity as a young.

1099
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: Black coach in the league. And I watched him from day.

1100
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: One since he came in in Denver and Dallas and

1101
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: all the other places he worked at doing his thing

1102
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 3: and for him to get his chance and not having

1103
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: what I feel like has been success building this team up. Like,

1104
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: tell me how he's helped your transition coming from a

1105
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: one and done straight to a rookie. And I mean,

1106
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: I see how how well I feel like he communicates

1107
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: really well with y'all and he you know, you guys

1108
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: respond well. Then, So so tell me how what he's

1109
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: done to help you in your transition.

1110
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 2: Now he's helped me a tremendous amount too, And he's been,

1111
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: you know, there for me the whole time. He's been

1112
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 2: real hands on the whole time, like since I first

1113
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: got there, summer league practices, like him being there doing

1114
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: damn near going through drills with me. He get out

1115
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: there playing d and just always you know, being a voice.

1116
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: And he's also just you know, really just preach just

1117
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: me playing with freedom, but also you know, having to

1118
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: play hard, play defense, you know, give effort on that end,

1119
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: not just be a one way player. But now he's

1120
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: letting me play through his stakes. He lets everyone play

1121
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: through mistakes, like he he a coach, is just who's

1122
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: gonna let us play as long as we giving the

1123
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: effort and playing the right way. You know, he's he's

1124
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: a he's a great coach man. And shoot, it's a

1125
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: blessing to have, you know, cause he's young, relatively young

1126
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: for being a coach and hungry, up and coming, so

1127
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: he kind of adopt will you adopt his attitude the

1128
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: same you know mindset he got. You know, we're all

1129
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: trying to you know, earn respect and you know, get

1130
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: up the ranks in the league and stuff like that.

1131
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: So now I say that all the time, like when

1132
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: I'm calling the game stuff like that. I know that

1133
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: well enough for being in the league. That like, the

1134
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: one thing that I love and appreciate about y'all as

1135
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: a team is that it's only a handful of games

1136
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: where I could look at it and say, like, damn,

1137
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: they just didn't have it tonight or they didn't you know,

1138
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: and that every team goes to that. Boy it be

1139
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: because you know, collectively is just a bad night or

1140
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: whatever like, But for that to be the case for

1141
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 3: such a team as you know, just young like y'all, like,

1142
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: to me, that showed me that, like he's doing an

1143
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: excellent job of getting y'all to fight for him because

1144
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't care who's available, Like you said, y'all have injuries,

1145
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: who's the next man or whoever's available, whatever's going on.

1146
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: I feel like y'all have that identity, y'all gonna come out,

1147
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: y'all gonna fight, y'all, y'all have a defensive mindset. He

1148
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: preaches that first, and I mean that shows. And I'm

1149
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: somebody who's been around the NBA, and I know when

1150
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: the team is like, ah, they bushing like you know

1151
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You could see that when you've been

1152
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: around it. And that was the one thing that I

1153
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: could appreciate. And it wasn't like that all three of

1154
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: these years, like this is my third year being at

1155
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't like it would be like damn, like you

1156
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, people come here and getting the

1157
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: easy fifty, you know what I'm saying, different things like this.

1158
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: This year's team, I feel like this was like the

1159
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: first time in a minute where I feel like, okay,

1160
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: like nah, like they not really just about to let

1161
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: you come through here and run through them like that.

1162
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: These young kids is fighting even though they got a

1163
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: lot to learn the long way to go, they still

1164
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: fighting and playing and trying to do the right thing.

1165
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: So I appreciated that about him, and I feel like

1166
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: y'all respond to him.

1167
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: So that's dope.

1168
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: Sure, who are your favorite three players that you watch

1169
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: coming up out of Seattle?

1170
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: And why out of Seattle? Yeah, now Seattle. I mean

1171
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of guys I got to watch.

1172
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: You know, my mom, she was a high school coach

1173
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: for until I was like thirteen. My whole life up

1174
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: until that point, so my whole childhood, I was in

1175
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 2: the gym high school games. You know her. The team

1176
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 2: she was coaching is in the same conference as Garfield Beach.

1177
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: So I'm watching the boys games and all that, and

1178
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: so shoot three. It's hard to get it to three.

1179
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: But man, I watched high school something that's your favorite?

1180
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: My favorite Tony Rowan watching him play growing up. Yeah,

1181
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: Tony Rowlan was like he was like the star of

1182
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: the city growing up. I remember just and he played

1183
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 2: for Rotary, my AAU team. He was just a star.

1184
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean Peyton Siva Yeah, yeah, I watched watched Payton

1185
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: Sivert won the national championship. His dad was my football coach.

1186
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 2: Like that's just how small Seattle is. Like that's the thing,

1187
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: like you see all these guys, these high school stars

1188
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: as stars in your eyes when you're younger, but yet

1189
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: you know five ten people that they know, so like

1190
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: everybody's been reached. And then man, I mean Michael Porter.

1191
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: He came for his senior year. He came for his

1192
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: senior year and he was nothing I never seen. Yeah

1193
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: he did something to the city that he hurt. Yeah,

1194
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: he got hurt. He went to got hurt. You know

1195
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: that a lot of people, like I said, he was

1196
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: in high school, so he got hurt in college. So

1197
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: the world, the national people, you know, people didn't really

1198
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: get to see him like before injuries, but I did.

1199
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: The whole c did. Like his senior year was ridiculous. Yeah,

1200
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen he's dunk that thing, shoot that

1201
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: thing you're looking for, he's shooting. He was ridiculous. So

1202
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: I would say he was the third best.

1203
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: How was it for you to get the chance to

1204
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: take part in the Rookie Sophomore's Game this year? Like

1205
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: that's something that you know we all look at growing

1206
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: like man, All Star weekend. You want to be a

1207
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: part of it, especially you know it's a rookie, you know,

1208
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: a rookie sophomore. You get a chance to be part

1209
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: of that, Like, how was that for you to get

1210
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: a chance to be out there in Utah and be

1211
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: be a part of everything and really experience your first

1212
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: All Star as a rookie.

1213
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great experience too. Another probably just

1214
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: staple in my first year. I would say it was

1215
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: All Star weekend, just being out there, being around, seeing

1216
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: just all the legends and how they all come back

1217
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: and you know, enjoy the weekend and just like you said,

1218
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: the rookie sophomore, it's just it's another just check off

1219
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: the bucket list, you know, it's another thing you dream

1220
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: of doing, rising stars game, you know, just getting to

1221
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: it's just a young next up and coming town of

1222
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: the league. I remember, I mean, shoot, you watch the

1223
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: stars that's playing now was in that same game. So

1224
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: it's just kind of going ongoing psycle. It's a step

1225
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: in the journey that you know, you can't take it

1226
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: for granted, like you got to cherish moments like that

1227
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: because I mean, not everybody get to make that game. Now,

1228
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: everybody got to, you know, experience that. So it was dope,

1229
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: Me and him got the hang out. What was that

1230
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: Friday night?

1231
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: Friday night all start at the d Wade CP and

1232
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: Mellow part we there. It was funny because as he

1233
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: was making his way through the crowd and me, KD

1234
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: and Mellow we standing over here off to the side,

1235
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: we talking this then and third, and when I saw

1236
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: him come in, I turned to them like, not when

1237
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: he came in, but when he got kind of over close.

1238
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: By where we were at, I started to talk to

1239
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: them like, hey, young fella, for real, you know what

1240
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.

1241
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: What y'all think of young fella. Both of them was

1242
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. KD and Mellow. You

1243
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: know they both respect, you know, felt like him. You

1244
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, It's done. And Third, so when

1245
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: he got over there, like you know, I want to

1246
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: introduce you. So what was that like for you to just,

1247
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, get the chill like that

1248
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: for a few minutes and holler at those boys, some

1249
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: of the guys that you kind of compared to. I

1250
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: don't know if you look up to, but like y'all

1251
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: play similar, you know what I'm saying, And like they

1252
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: didn't did a lot of things that I'm sure you

1253
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 3: aspired to do and be and all of those different things.

1254
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: And how was that you know, vibe with those two legends.

1255
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: It's kind of like similar and positioning you that that's

1256
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: doing things that you want to do.

1257
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an honor for me being around all y'all,

1258
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: just you know, being getting getting chop it up with

1259
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: you guys. And then just the reception I got from

1260
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: from them too from everybody else was the eye opening

1261
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: for me. And just being able to talk to them

1262
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: and get you know, give me advice and tell me

1263
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: what to do what not to do, like and then

1264
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: I got my friends in there, they talking to them,

1265
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, just it was just crazy, you know, being

1266
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: around them, seeing that they real people, you know, and

1267
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: just after that, you know, talking to them, seeing you

1268
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: know that they messed with me, they messed with my game.

1269
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: Like that was the only validation I ever needed right there,

1270
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: Like I grew up loving Carmelo Love and KD like

1271
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 2: watching like sitting in my role crazy to hear them

1272
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: tell you things they living in my room, watching hour

1273
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: long highlights of Mellow like for real, like people don't

1274
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: even know, like just really studying dudes like and so

1275
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: to be able to be just in a room like

1276
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: that with them where it's not even it ain't no cameras,

1277
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: it ain't media. It's just you know, real people, you know,

1278
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: having real conversations. Like it's just that made my weekend

1279
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: right there, just being around them and getting to chop

1280
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: it up for sure. Did you ever think that you

1281
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: would be in GQ? No? No, nah, But shoot, that's

1282
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: that's what's great about, you know, being being in the league,

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Speaker 2: being you know, trying to be the best player you

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: can be opportunities like that. I heard you into fashion. Yeah, yeah,

1285
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm trying to. Yeah, like I'm different

1286
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: though I'm not. It's levels to it, but I'm also

1287
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm not like trying to like make statements and go crazy.

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: I just like putting on nice clothes and you know,

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Speaker 2: looking fresh. Sometimes I wouldn't say I'm like keeping up

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Speaker 2: with the fashion or like I just see something I

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: like it, I buy it. Like I don't got a stylist.

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Speaker 2: I wear all my own clothes. You put it together yourself.

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Speaker 1: Exactly When you heard GQ wanted to put you in

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01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: the magazine, what was that like?

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Speaker 2: Tell your mom like, hey it was GQ Sports, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a GQ fashion, So I gotta get there. But no,

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Speaker 2: It was dope, just being a part of being able

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Speaker 2: to get put in that magazine, do an interview and

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01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: get a feature in there. You know, Mom's grandma. They

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: always cat the GQ. So you see, that was dope.

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Speaker 2: So you have Italian citizenship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you you could play for the Italian

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Speaker 3: national team if you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. So how like you're gonna play for

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Speaker 2: USA though? Right? I don't know. That's the question everybody asking.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the question everybody asking, Wait a minute, so

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Speaker 2: how so? So so what's your dilemma? How are you Italian? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: My dad but I mean so his great granddad, so

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: my great great granddad, uh it lived moved to us

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: from from Italy. So I was born and raised there

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01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: was an Italian citizen. So his grandpa, his dad all qualified.

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Speaker 2: He qualified, I qualify just from the fact that his

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Speaker 2: great grandfather was was Italian. So that was like something

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Speaker 2: Obviously my name is unique in that way and so

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Speaker 2: not Poblo. Yeah, for sure.

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 3: A lot of people say this man was saying life

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: of pob was like not Poblo.

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Speaker 2: But so like that was something like growing up like

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: I always had my name and then you always kind

1320
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: of wonder, like growing up where it came from, you

1321
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So my dad's name Mario, brother's

1322
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: name Julio, uncle named Angelo, so like we all got that,

1323
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: got that Italian name. And so my dad he always

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: would talk about he ain't never been in Italy. We

1325
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: we ain't never been out there. I'm gonna try and

1326
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: go there this summer. But he would just always talking

1327
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: about going out there one day hopefully and like tapping

1328
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: into that side because we got family out there, and

1329
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: so that was something that presented the opportunity to get

1330
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: my passport, become a citizen, and so I got you,

1331
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: I gotta bring the cameras with for that one. I

1332
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: definitely gotta go there.

1333
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: But let me you know that most people to do that,

1334
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: they really ain't got a chance for the USA team,

1335
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 3: Like you know, you.

1336
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: That's why go out to this. I mean, unless that's

1337
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: just your preference. Well no, that's the thing. That's the

1338
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: thing how it all happened is it's funny. It's crazy,

1339
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: just because I went to the USA tryouts in many

1340
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: camps and like for the junior national team, but I

1341
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 2: never made the team. I had got cut one year.

1342
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: I went to some other mini camps where it was

1343
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: just mini camps. It was in the tryout. I actually

1344
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: was kind of like salty, like USA, let me USA,

1345
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: let me a little salty. When I was high school,

1346
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: school pop down, So I got cut and I was

1347
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: always you know, kind of just left a bad taste

1348
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: in my mouth. And and so Italy had approached my

1349
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: dad when I was like sixteen seventeen because they saw

1350
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: my name and they asked my dad if I had

1351
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: an Italian background, and he was like, yeah, smart, and

1352
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: so they actually helped me in getting the Italian passport citizenship.

1353
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: They were smart. I mean honestly, like like without COVID,

1354
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't I probably would I wouldn't play because

1355
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: you know, right away out the gate when I was

1356
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen, you know, they were gonna put me on

1357
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: the national team, like the Olympic team. Yeah, so like

1358
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: that was the opportunity for me that like I was

1359
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: looking at it like man, I don't know, I can

1360
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: miss out on that. But then once COVID happened, everything

1361
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: kind of got put on hold, and obviously stuff happened.

1362
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: I went to went to school, you know, did what

1363
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: I did that dude got drafted number one. So now

1364
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: it's a little different because you know, like Grand Hill

1365
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: USA basketball. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So it's a it's a

1366
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: it's a decision that got way to go grant.

1367
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: So this year you're almost done with your first year

1368
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: in the league. You had a nice amount of highlights

1369
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: this year. What's one of them dunk ons this year

1370
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: that you got that you was like, yeah, I like

1371
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: that one.

1372
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: That was uh, definitely the first game yeah, Detroit. Yeah,

1373
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: like the boy and everything.

1374
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, he meant to walk offans.

1375
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: That's the one right there. That that's that gotta be

1376
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: just number one for me. The first game, first first

1377
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: dunk on the first body of my career in the

1378
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: first game one forever forever, and it was memorable. Definitely

1379
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: was memorable. I never had a dunk like where I

1380
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: tried to take a charge and I just dunk on

1381
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: them like that. So that was my first time doing that.

1382
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: A little wide opening and the league, you know.

1383
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: We about just at the end of the season. So

1384
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a it's a sufficient question, especially

1385
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: with what they got going on now nowadays. I mean

1386
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: I feel like I might have already saw it, But

1387
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: I want to ask the bag question, like when they've

1388
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: got that bag, we don't know that. I feel like

1389
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: that could be it, because the P five was definitely

1390
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: like that, but we don't know that. I want to

1391
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: know something you did when you got that bag that

1392
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: just made you real, real, real good about yourself. And

1393
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: it can't be like, hey, we all take care of

1394
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 3: Mama and pops and all that. I don't want to

1395
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: hear none of that. We want to hear like that

1396
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: P five. If something is better than that, I want

1397
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: to hear better than that.

1398
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: But like, what what did you do? You know?

1399
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: And plus like just ladies and gentlemen, like when me

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01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 3: and him got drafted, he was in three eighteen, he

1401
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: making like it. Don't we us together, don't even see

1402
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: none of what they doing now, so like it's its whole.

1403
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 3: It's not that bad, y'ob.

1404
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: So what did you do, young fellas? I bought some

1405
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: more jewelry, I got some more ice, so that that's

1406
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: age is back. That's definitely what was a purchase? And

1407
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: then uh, yeah, I I bought a nice car. I mean,

1408
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: what what was the what was the whip? I mean

1409
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: I gott Bentley. Yeah, bought that photo tho been taken. Yeah, okay,

1410
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: ye that's but other than that, like I tried. I mean,

1411
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: I got like nice clothes and stuff, but I ain't

1412
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: bought like three cars. You're good, y'all.

1413
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: That's a little, you know, a little to ninety bit

1414
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: you number one pick, that's large, large centire.

1415
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: What would winning rookie other year means? You? Shive me

1416
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: a lot? Got a list of goals in my phone

1417
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: that I made like a junior senior high school, just

1418
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: rolled down everything I could think of that I wanted

1419
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: to do in my career, and the rookie year was

1420
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: one of them in the NBA. So, I mean, that's

1421
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: something I've always had my eye on for a while.

1422
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, when you're able to when you

1423
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: can say you set a goal and when and go

1424
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 2: out there and really do it, it just hits different

1425
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: when you when you've been eyeing it for a long time.

1426
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: And so if I'm able to win, man, it's it'll

1427
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: be just a testament to work hard work, literally just

1428
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: being hungry. Not like I'm the first person to say

1429
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: this at this point, but good ship.

1430
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the landslide rookie of the year. Right here,

1431
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: ladies and jumping. He did that, wrote it down. Now

1432
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 3: you can check it off in a couple of months.

1433
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: You know it's a done deal.

1434
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: Man. We appreciate you pulling up. Man.

1435
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: We're right here in city beautiful, so it wasn't no

1436
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 3: hard task.

1437
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1438
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: We got the soon to be Rookie of the Year,

1439
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 3: powlow Fang Carol, Ladies and gentlemen for Orlando magic. H

1440
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,679
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