1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we roll 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: towards Labor Day weekend. A lot of kids going back 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: to school this week, a lot of kids going back 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: to school next week. We ended the show yesterday saying 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to the suburban moms out there, 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to claim that we're going to 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: be perfect at this, but we are going to attempt 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: to have a conversation that you could have with all 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: the other moms out there about why Joe Biden is 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: such a disaster and you shouldn't be voting Democrat. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: We will discuss that. 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Biden corruption emails fifty four hundred that may have come 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: from a burner account or used an alias. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Pretty crazy. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you saw this, but 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: John Mellencamp, it's amazing how all of these rockers that 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: made a living as being rebels now are such stooges 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: for the people in positions of power. He said, Yeah, 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: maybe their phonies play, maybe they were just fakes. You know, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: we should just take this into consideration. 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: We got audio. I couldn't believe when I saw this headline. 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: I haven't even heard the audio, but he said John 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: Mellencamp did in a conversation with Bill Maher only one 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: to two percent of black people in America today have 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: a better life than the slaves. Did I swear this 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: is real? Harold Ford Junior, who I like, we need 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: to play this at some point. Bucks that he's got 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 2: seven COVID shots so far, and he's had COVID three 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: three times Biden. 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: We mentioned this. 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Biden has managed to unite everyone in America in the 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: belief that he's too old to do the job. But 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: the numbers are pretty staggering for both Republicans and Democrats. Uh, 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: the vate with Al Sharpton, we got some fun stuff 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: to talk about. 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Buck, but we was apparently a Democrat back in the day. Well, well, 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, I don't think that is 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody, but he is. He's a Democrat. 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: Yes, we will discuss that and more. But we ended 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: yesterday's show Monday Show, I believe talking to a series 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: of suburban moms who were reacting to our discussion that 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: ultimately the twenty twenty four election is likely to come 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: down to how moms in the suburbs vote. And we've 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: got a ton of moms in the suburbs listening to 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: us right now. So I want to start off We 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: don't have a single guest today. I want to start 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: off Buck with putting out this phone number eight hundred 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: and two eight two two eight eight two, because we 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: asked a question that I think goes to the heart 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. How many people out there voted 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: for Biden in twenty twenty listening to us right now 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: and would now flip their vote in twenty twenty four 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: to Trump or whomever the Republican nominee might be. 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: We are offering you absolution here. 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm just curious how many people are listening right now 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: to us that bought into the idea that Joe Biden 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: would restore normalcy, hope, decency, whatever you want to say 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: to the White House and to the country and now 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: recognize that they were sold a false bill of goods 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: and are listening to us. I would love to hear 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: from you. But we ended the show Monday, Bucks saying 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: we would give and have a conversation. Here is what 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I would say, And then I'm curious what you would 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: add for suburban women out there that are likely to 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: vote for Trump if he's the nominee or whomever the 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Republican nominee is, and they're dealing with other suburban moms 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: out there that just find the Republican brand to be 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: in some way or the Trump brand so toxic that 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: they're not. 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Willing to vote. So here is what I would say. 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: In general, I think you have to start with abortion 76 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: in most of these conversations, and I understand it's the 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: third rail, and I understand there are any number of 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: opinions out there in our audience on the abortion issue. 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: What I would say is this the Republican position. I 80 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: think you can say this very strongly after the Wednesday 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: debate last week. The Republican position on abortion is not radical. 82 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: There are actually a lot of Republican positions on abortion 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: everyone out there, by and large that I saw on 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: the stage, and Buck you disagree with me if you 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: heard it differently. I didn't hear anybody advocating on the 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: stage for any sort of national policy that would restrict 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: abortion inside of fifteen weeks. 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: So the pro life movement would say, and still has 89 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: always said, that life begins at conception. The political reality 90 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party faces, based on how this has 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: played out in pretty much every state where it has 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: been on the ballot, is the voters well, I mean, 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, you have to look at what the specific 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: limitation was, but it is very unpopular right now, even 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: in states with pretty substantial Republican you know, Republican voters, 96 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: to have a total ban on abortion. There are some 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: places where you can get that, but it's very politically 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: challenging to get that, and some would even argue that, 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, for example, Governor DeSantis, who's done so much 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: good in the state of Florida as the governor, and 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that has changed at all. I think 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal governor. And we're also thinking about everybody 103 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: who may be affected by the Hurricane Adalia that's coming 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: through here. We'll talk more about that later. But Governor 105 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: DeSantis's six week abortion ban, I think that was the 106 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: I think that is from a pro life position, the 107 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: ethical position, but it's been a problem for him nationally. 108 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that that's just one example of it. 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Is a it is a debate, or it turns into 110 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: discussion about you can either create limitations where you say 111 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you know heartbeat or you know two trimester, whatever it 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: may be, and try to save as many lives as possible, 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: or else it turns into the Democrats will win the 114 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: state legislature, the Democrats will will start packing the state court, 115 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and you're going to get the most extreme. I mean, 116 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Colorado has abortion until birth. That is the actual law there. 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: So if you go for everything, you might end up 118 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: with nothing. Is effectively the way it breaks down. 119 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: So I again, and I'm saying this for suburban moms 120 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: because I think suburban moms more so, and certainly single 121 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: women and anybody why. 122 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: Suburban you know why we suburban moms? Can we talk 123 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: about that for a second. I mean, if it's really 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: just women, I mean the Trump has the women. But 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: if you look at the twenty twenty breakdown, right, you 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: had Trump one men, right, fifty three percent Trump wins men. 127 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: He loses women, and he loses them bigly fifty seven 128 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: percent overall in twenty twenty. 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 2: But if you break down women, buck, he doesn't actually 130 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 2: lose rural women that much. 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't lose married women that much. Either, he 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: doesn't lose married women. He loses like ninety seven percent 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: of the black female vote something. I mean, it's astronomically high. 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: It's true he los the you know, because actually I 135 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: think eighty percent of black voters voted for a Black 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: male voters voted for Biden. So it's the black female 137 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: vote that's just absolutely dead set against Trump. I mean numbers, 138 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: you can't see numbers like that and any other breakdown 139 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: of any other demographic in terms of the unanimity. But 140 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: to win women voters, I mean, yeah, I guess there's 141 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: there's the the swing voters among women I guess are 142 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: in the suburbs r Just to clarify this. 143 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: This is where where, this is where the election is 144 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: being won, and in particular, that is what the data reflects. 145 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Right. 146 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: So, and this is where to your point yesterday, Glenn 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: youngki one because in Virginia, because he did well enough 148 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: with suburban women in northern Virginia that he was able 149 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: to offset the Democrat strength in what is usually their 150 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: like base. 151 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Plus he's six foot six and women really like tall guys. 152 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this, the comfort with which I 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: have heard women be superficial about male heights is something 154 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: that never gets well, they're women who won't date a 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: guy who's under six two, and I'm like, that's one 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: percent or two percent of the population. 157 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: Basically, no, the women are allowed speaking. Since we're talking 158 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: to women right now, you have an incredible privilege. You 159 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: can denigrate short men unbelievably and also bald men, two 160 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: things that men have zero control over. 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: You can't control whether you're shorter bald. 162 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: George Costanza obviously probably the most famous short bald man. 163 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: My wife, I don't know if she's listening right now, Buck, 164 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I said, would you have ever dated me if I 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: were five eight? She was like, probably not. 166 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: She's five two. 167 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: It's not like I understand if you're a woman in 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: you're five nine or five to ten and you don't 169 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: want to date a shorter man, Like I can kind 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: of understand that my wife is five to two if 171 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I were five eight, she was like, yeah, I probably 172 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it. 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this, the comfort with which we have 174 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: turned into a women have created this, this heightiest society 175 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: in terms of mating and dating. It doesn't get much 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: talk anyway. I'm just young and six six. The ladies 177 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: like tall guys. That's all I'm saying. So but more 178 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: importantly and more seriously, he was good on the school's issue, 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and that was a that was a big part of it. 180 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: He killed it. But on I think you have to 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: start with abortion. And here is what I would say 182 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: to all of your friends out there, because I do 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: think a lot of moms, you know, they have fourteen 184 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: or fifteen year old girls. 185 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: They're worried. 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: They don't want the government to come knocking on their 187 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: door if their fourteen year old daughter gets pregnant, and 188 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: they don't think that should be a government issue. Okay, 189 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, I think a lot of grandmother 190 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: feel the same way who are listening to us right now. 191 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: What I would say is everybody's entitled to their own 192 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: opinion on abortion. So if you are out there listening 193 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: to us right now and you believe there should be 194 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: no exceptions, I certainly respect the honesty of your opinion. 195 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: I would say only ten percent of the American electorate 196 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: has that a position. Right, no rape incests, no life 197 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: of the mother, no exceptions, there should be no abortion. 198 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Ten percent you will get you will get absolutely destroyed 199 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: if that is the position that you adopted a national 200 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: election or even frankly, most statewide elections. Only ten percent 201 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: of people believe, Buck, that there should be abortion allowed 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: in the ninth month of pregnancy. 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: To me right, and that is the law in many places. 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, that is the law in many states, 205 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: and Democrats defend it, and Jensaki goes on TV and 206 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: says that's a misrepresentation, that she is lying. It is 207 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: not a misrepresentation. They are legalizing and have legalized in fantaside. 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: So I would focus on the a in the middle, 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: which is where the vast majority of the American public live, 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: which I. 211 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Think you switch a vote for Trump based on abortion stuff. 212 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Is that Well, I don't think you can switch it, 213 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: but Buck, I think that's what so many of these 214 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: women are voting based on. 215 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: I really do. 216 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: So many suburban moms are being convinced that now that 217 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade has been overturned, Republicans are radical and 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: they want to make sure that if you're fourteen year 219 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: old gets pregnant, she has to have the baby. That's 220 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: what they're being sold. Okay, what I am saying is, 221 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: if you go listen to any Republican candidate. 222 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: And I just heard Trump say this. 223 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: He wasn't on the stage, but I just heard Trump 224 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: stay this in Nashville a couple of weeks ago. What 225 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: is radical got to shift the conversation. The radical position 226 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: is not what Republicans believe, which is state should have 227 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: the right now under existing Roe v. Wade being overturned 228 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: law to set a limit. And some people are going 229 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: to like I think the Desanta six week In my opinion, 230 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: I think the Santas six week abortion law is too close. 231 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: I would not be in favor of that personally. I 232 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: could tell you so, like ethically or politically politically, you 233 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: can't win at six weeks nationwide. 234 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: You can't. 235 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: You cannot win with a six week abortion law. I 236 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: think DeSantis was willing to take the political hit on 237 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: that to save lives. That's that was the calculation that 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: he had for his state. That's what you want a 239 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: lot of politicians to do, right is stand for what's right, 240 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: even if it sometimes makes it more difficult for you electorally. 241 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: I can respect it, you can't win with it. 242 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: And so what I would say is the radical proposition 243 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: is what Democrats are doing, and the idea that Democrats 244 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: are selling that Republicans are going to show up and 245 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: that your daughter, if she accidentally gets pregnant when she's 246 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: fourteen or fifteen, is going to be forced to have 247 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: an abortion is just flat out notchialism. 248 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Be forced to have a baby. I don't really see 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: how this is tying in though the Trump. I mean, 250 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: if Trump says I I just think we should leave 251 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: it to the States. It's not like he's won over 252 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: all these suburban moms, right, I mean that that doesn't. 253 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: I think you buck, I don't. I think you have 254 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: to directly explain to everyone these women are being told 255 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: that Republicans are going to put you. 256 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: Back in uh. I mean they showed up, dressed it 257 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: in the back alley abortions and the hangars, but all 258 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: the stuff that they yeah. 259 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Handmaid's Tail. I think you have to directly 260 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: refute this. And I think, and maybe I'm wrong, but 261 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: I think, based on the women that I'm talking to 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: and I'm hearing from, this is what they are being 263 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: sold and many of them are buying it. And so 264 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you can tiptoe up to this if 265 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: you are trying to convince someone this is the number 266 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: one issue that suburban women care about, and I think 267 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: they do. 268 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: I do not think you will find a single poll 269 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: that supports that contention. I think that's I think it's 270 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: number one. Nope, it's not. It's no way. It's ahead 271 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: of economy and healthcare. There's there's just. 272 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: No way number one for swing voters that are going 273 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: to be persuaded. I think abortion is going to be 274 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 2: the number one for suburban women. I one hundred percent 275 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: to and they don't like Trump personally, right, that was 276 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: an issue in twenty But what they're going to layer 277 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: it on, buck and I'm telling you this to get 278 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: ready for this. What they are going to layer it 279 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: on is you may not like Biden, but he'll protect 280 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: your right to abortion, and you hate Trump, and they're 281 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: going to try to win the election on that. And 282 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: I think you Trump go after. I think you have 283 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: to go after the abortion thing, and then you have 284 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: to hammer that Biden's incompetent on everything. I think you 285 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: have to directly take abortion head on. I don't think 286 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: this idea of oh, we're going to leave it to 287 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: the states and we're just going to dismiss it. I 288 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: think you have to explain why what the Democrats are 289 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: saying is not true and not honest. I don't think 290 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: you can kind of sideswipe this. I don't think you 291 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: can narrowly avoid it. I think that's what a lot 292 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: of people try to do. Twenty two take long about 293 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: abortion for forty years. I mean, you know what the 294 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: difference is. 295 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Roe v. 296 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: Wade has been overturned. It's like the Republicans are the 297 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: dog that caught the car. You have to explain for 298 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: a long time. You could run along barking at the car. 299 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: You have to explain why what the new reality is 300 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: and why Democrats are not being honest about it. I really, 301 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: one hundred billion percent think this is the essence of 302 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: the election. 303 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: So do you think that this matters to suburban women 304 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: across the country more than the economy, more than healthcare, 305 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: more than education? Yes? As an issue? Yes, Okay, I mean, well, 306 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, I see I do. 307 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying they don't care about these 308 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: other things. I'm gonna be honest with you as a 309 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: as a data of you know three, abortion is like 310 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: my ninth issue that I care about, tenth, Like it's 311 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: so far down the list for me, and I know 312 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: for a lot of our listeners that is true too 313 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: for suburban women. I think by the time we get 314 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: to twenty four, it's going to be number one, I 315 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: really do. And I think the Republican position is not 316 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: a battle play. 317 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: There's so many states where abortion is legal and going 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: to continue to be legal and nothing has changed. I mean, really, 319 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: you'd have to narraw what we should come. I mean, 320 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: also there's other things I know we got to get into, 321 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: but where is this Where is the battleground going to 322 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: be and how is it going to be shaped by 323 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: the abortion issue more than anything else. I mean, you 324 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: think in Pennsylvania the state's going to be decided about 325 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: based on abortion or Michigan. 326 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I do think a lot of women in 327 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: the suburbs of Philadelphia and in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, 328 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: and the suburbs of Fulton County, you know, in Atlanta 329 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: and then Marcopa County. I think so I think it's 330 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: going to be the single biggest issue, and I think 331 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: you have to address it because otherwise it's a major 332 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: issue going forward. 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Uh take 350 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: that one on eight hundred and two to two eight 351 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: A two. We'll get into some of your calls coming 352 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: up here, and we'll get into whatever Clay's got in 353 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: store for us next as well. If you think the 354 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: Biden administrations running this country off the rails. Wait until 355 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: you hear about their plans for a new form of 356 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: US currency. According to former Wall Street insider and digital 357 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: currency expert Tika Twari, there's an announcement likely coming from 358 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: this administration about This would include a recall on the 359 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: US dollar we all know and use. 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To watch 368 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: this video, you can learn how to opt out of 369 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: this digital dollar future if it does come to pass. 370 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: The website to learn more about this is Dollar Recall 371 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: dot Com. Paid for by Palm Beach Research Group. 372 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show eight hundred and two two 373 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: two eight A two. We got several of you who 374 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: want to weigh in on our discussion. By the way, 375 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: starting with abortion bucks, so I think you have to 376 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: address it head on. This is my pitch to suburban 377 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: moms who are willing to consider voting right, there's about 378 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: eighty percent of suburban moms out there that are just 379 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: not going to change their mind no matter what they 380 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: already have made their decisions. This is to me the 381 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 2: twenty percent that is persuadable. And then I think you 382 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: have to start with abortion, take it head on, put 383 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: it to the side, And then I think you have 384 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: to go into what has Joe Biden done that actually 385 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: has made your family's life better. And I cannot imagine 386 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: that there are very many suburban moms or moms anywhere 387 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: in the country that can actually say my life is 388 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: better after three or four years of Joe Biden than 389 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: it was before. And I think that's buck where you 390 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: hammer home. The economy, crime, the lack of security at 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: the border, the fact that your kids' schools are going woker, 392 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: and you are not happy with the ability of your 393 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: school district to make decisions that you disagree with as 394 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: a parent. I think you hammer all of those things 395 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: and bring that home over the top. I just think 396 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: logically most moms are going to agree that Joe Biden 397 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: has done a really bad job as president, and their 398 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: families are struggling compared to when Trump was in office, 399 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: and that brings it home. 400 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: So moms, you think Trump will do well with because 401 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: women overall, as we know, is the weakness for all realms. 402 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: My concern, here's my concern. 403 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: If Trump is the nominee, buck, I think they're going 404 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: to say Trump had sex with a porn star while 405 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: his wife had a baby. That doesn't convey very well 406 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: with most This is how they're going to attack Trump, right, 407 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: They're going. 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: To say they did before this wasn't new. 409 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: I mean so yeah, but now he's also been found 410 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: civilly liable for sexual assault whether we agree all of 411 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: these attacks, right, So, most people are not going to 412 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: be convinced that Trump is a guy that they would 413 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: like to be married to or date. I think a 414 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: lot of moms out there, I'm gonna be honest, I 415 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: don't think most moms out there. 416 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a referendum on whether the 417 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: voters want to be Trump wife number four. 418 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: But still, I do think that a lot of women 419 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: look to the president and they think, would I like 420 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: to be married to this guy? Would I like for 421 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: this to be someone that I'm in a relationship with. 422 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: Trump's not winning that one. 423 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: But I just think it's it's so again if we're talking, 424 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: are you talking about married when you break this down 425 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: into voter tranches, when women is so broad as to 426 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: be you. 427 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: Know, that's what I'm saying. Suburb That's what I'm saying. 428 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: Suburban women who I think are the swing voters here. 429 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: That's where Trump wants each. 430 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: One, primarily talking about suburban white women as well. As 431 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Trump actually did pretty well. I have to look at 432 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: the the gender breakdown, but he did pretty well with 433 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: the Trump. 434 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: One white women, I think, yeah, but he lost again. 435 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: If you look at the data and you want to 436 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: know where the twenty twenty election was lost, it was 437 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: in suburban educated women. They turned on Trump versus sixteen. 438 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: That's where Joe Biden won. So I'm directly talking to 439 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: that cohort, which actually a lot of them listened to us, 440 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: and so I think what they're gonna do, Buck, I'm 441 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: just telling you what the strategy is going to be. 442 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: They're going to say Trump is an awful human being? 443 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: But why did Trump lose it? Because that was obviously 444 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: before Rose overturned. Right, So what's the. 445 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: Now They're going to layer Trump's an awful human being 446 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: and Republicans are going to keep you your family. If 447 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: your fourteen year old gets pregnant, she's not gonna be 448 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: able to get an abortion. They're going to layer Trump 449 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: is awful, and now Republicans are going to keep you 450 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: from being able to I'm just telling you. 451 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: That's the Trump Trump is awful, Clay. That is I 452 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: would that they're going to say Trump is awful. Yes, 453 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: that's clearly going to be part of the messaging. And 454 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: they've they've always they've said Republicans are extremists on abortion forever. 455 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: Now Rob Wade has been overturned, and I think it again. 456 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: I understand the logical argument of most people's lives have 457 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: not changed because it's gone back. 458 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: So what's the counter argument, because you're saying what they're 459 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: going to say. I agree they're going to counter argument 460 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: is that's not true. The counter argument is that Democrats 461 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: are actually radical. They are saying nine month abortion should 462 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: be legal. Every Republican that was on the stage Wednesday 463 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: said I think the most aggressive position on abortion was 464 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, and he said he thought there should be 465 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: a federal law limiting abortion at fifteen weeks, which is 466 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Republicans are not trying. So we have Trump staff that 467 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: listens to this show. What should Trump's position on abortion be. 468 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Trump's position on abortion should be, it's now to the states, Okay, Yeah, 469 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: And and I am not going to impact in any 470 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: way first trimester abortions. That's what I believe his position 471 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: should be period, and then he should pivot to we 472 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: are going to I think it's immoral. I think it's unjustifiable. 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: I think it's tatamount to murder to allow abortion up 474 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: to the ninth month. So I am not going This 475 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: is my position if I were Trump, if I want 476 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: to win, I am not going to do anything to 477 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: abortion in the first trimester. The government's not showing up 478 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: at your door if your fourteen or fifteen year old 479 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: daughter gets pregnant. And this is currently his position, as 480 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, so he hasn't aggressed. I haven't heard him 481 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 2: say this. I heard him say he believes in in 482 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: exemptions on life of a mother, on rape, and on 483 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: an incest. 484 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: I've not heard him say what the positions would be. 485 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: He said that if this is he or he's at 486 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: least indicated that he've used it as an issue left 487 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: to the states. Yeah. 488 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: Correct, But I haven't heard him say we're not going 489 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: to worry about the first We're not going to federally 490 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: try to do anything in the first trimester. 491 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: We're going to leave it to the states. What I 492 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: do believe, and this is what I think. So then 493 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: he's going to ban it in a third trimester federally 494 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: because it's either a federal issue or it's not a 495 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: federal issue. 496 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: I think you should attack it in the third trimester, 497 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: but not from the perspective of trying to do any 498 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: federal legislation. Right, you can't say that you're leaving it 499 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: to the state. This is where this is where he's 500 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: this is where he's been I think actually kind of smart. 501 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: I haven't heard him directly address the first trimester and 502 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: just say I'm not going to touch that. I think 503 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: that's the right position to take, and then pivot when 504 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: he's been directly asked about it, like in the CNN 505 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: town hall, he said he'll sit down at the table 506 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: and come up with a negotiated agreement, which could leave 507 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: open the possibility of a federal role. 508 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: But remember what theyre I will say this. I don't 509 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: say this as a criticism. I think this is I 510 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: think this is just what's likely to happen. I think 511 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: that over the course of the campaign, Trump will take 512 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: multiple position on the issue, and that will actually be helpful. 513 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: I think I think actually Trump on abortion is got 514 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: a really good position if he can elucidate it in 515 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: a way. And by the way, we got a bunch 516 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: of women who went away in you and I are 517 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: attempting to divine what the outcome of the abortion issue 518 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: is going to be. I think you have to directly 519 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: address it. I just think you have to take it 520 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: on it directly. And I understand people out there, by 521 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: the way, who listen to me and they say, Clay, 522 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent wrong on this. 523 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I get it. 524 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying to win, because if you don't win, nothing 525 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: else matters, right, And this is why last week I 526 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: get fired up when people say, well, if my guy 527 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: or my girl doesn't win, I'm not showing up. Everybody 528 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: on the stage Wednesday is way better than Joe Biden. Like, 529 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: there is a big difference between whoever you dislike the 530 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: most on the stage Wednesday. 531 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: In my opinion, and Joe Biden. 532 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: VICKI, by the way, in Escanaba, Michigan, suburban mom, What 533 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: do you think about this conversation? 534 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: Hi? 535 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess I'm a suburban mom in Upper Michigan. 536 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: And I think if people want, if people want to 537 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: argue that one issue cannot lose an election like abortion. 538 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: Michigan is an example, because I know you guys have 539 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: had on Tudor Dixon. I voted for her, and I 540 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: am pro life, very much pro life. But she ran 541 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: and said absolutely no exceptions for abortions. She was specific 542 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: about even if a mother's life at risk. They had 543 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: Governor Whitmer, who was the incumbent who won. Basically she 544 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: just hammered on that with Tudor Dixon and Tudor Dixon loss. 545 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, can I just say that was an 546 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: on what very few Republicans take that position, and that 547 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: was a politically that's a politically unwise position that I mean, 548 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: you could go back, you could play the tape even 549 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: two years ago. I said, I was like, look, they 550 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: got to say life of the mother, exceptions for rape 551 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: or else. They will lose whatever election they're and that 552 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: is long. 553 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: We're having Tutor on tomorrow, so we'll ask her about 554 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: this specifically. But do you think in particular the issue 555 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: of abortion. Gretchen Whitmer's an awful governor, but you think 556 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: that was the dividing line in that electionally? 557 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, because she shut down our entire state for 558 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: a long time, shut down, school shut down, kids' sports, shutdown. 559 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: I mean, we were one of the longest shutdown states 560 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: that there was, and so she wasn't exactly popular getting 561 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: coming into the election, and the fact that she still won, 562 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: she just really hit hard on that. She's a very 563 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: smart campaigner. I just met her at our up state 564 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: fair and she's incredibly, incredibly well spoken Governor Whitmer, and 565 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: so I just think it's an example of what you 566 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: guys are saying is just make sure not to say 567 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: it's the only you know, there's no ever, ever, any exceptions. 568 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: It just it's it just it really it allows the 569 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: I guess the incumbent or the Democrat to really kind 570 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: of play that snippet over and over. And that's what 571 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: she did during in Michigan. 572 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: And I what what other politicians out there at the 573 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: state level and the Republican Party are are are on 574 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: the record for no exceptions at all, I askid, honestly, 575 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: I can't. I'd have to check and see. I'm not 576 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: familiar with this people. 577 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: I think Kathy Barnett, who ran for the Senate in 578 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: UH in Pennsylvania and was really popular. You know, we 579 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: had that nasty primary that doctor Oz ended up winning 580 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: over Barnett and uh and and the other the other 581 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: individual whose name is escaping me right now, McCormick, who 582 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: was likely to be running again in the in the Senate. 583 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: I think she was unapologetically like, did not believe in 584 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: any exemptions. And I think I think the governor nominee 585 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania who we had on the show, who got 586 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: absolutely trounced in Pennsylvania by Josh Shapiro, I think he 587 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: was basically a very limited exemptions if any at all. 588 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: On the abortion, I think he got absolutely hammered. So 589 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: in the Midwest, in particular Pennsylvania, Michigan, they made that 590 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: the issue. And we know buck in Wisconsin because I 591 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: just came back from Wisconsin, they in the Supreme Court 592 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: made abortion basically the only issue that they were running 593 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: on for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and Democrats won by 594 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: nearly double digits to take back control of the Supreme 595 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: Court over this abortion issue. So in the Midwest, where 596 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: this election very well may be decided, they are hammering this. 597 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: Ohio just had a referendum as well. 598 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: I the challenge here becomes, I mean, the Republican Party 599 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and the conservative movement has as a centerpiece been built on, yes, 600 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: overturning Row but effectively trying to limit and then end 601 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: the practice of abortion nationwide. So for Donald Trump, let's say, 602 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: as the nominee, to come forward and say, I'm not 603 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: going to talk the first trimester is fine, that's a problem. 604 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, now you're talking about how do evangelical voters 605 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: feel about this, Like, how do how do you know? 606 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: Doctor? 607 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: I think Catholics feel about it. 608 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: I think first trimester off the board is a landslide 609 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: win on the nationwide. 610 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I just I me just say, it's left to the states. 611 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: That's what I don't understand. If if it's left to 612 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: the states, then it's not his it's not his purview 613 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: to say, well why at all? 614 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, because I think there's going to be I mean, 615 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: already you saw on the stage Mike Pence said we 616 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: need to have a federal law that limits abortion to 617 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: fifteen weeks. Lindsey Graham put forward that that that bill 618 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: right in the middle of the twenty twenty two election. 619 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: There is going to be I think a push in 620 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: some parts of the Republican Party to uh to put 621 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: forward a federal legislation that would codify where abortion is 622 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 2: allowed and not allowed from a federal level, and then 623 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: it'll send it back to the Supreme Court. 624 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a mess. A Republican park that pushes 625 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: a federal legislation that legalizes abortion in the first term 626 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: is a that is a huge problem. I mean from 627 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: the perspective of the pro life movement and people who 628 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: have been fighting for this for a long time, that 629 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: would effectively be yeah, we just did you know, we 630 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: just didn't like Roe v. Wade. But you know, abortion's fine. 631 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: So you can either leave it to the states and 632 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: state legislatures, or you can try to get into what's 633 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: politically feasible, as in what's likely to actually allow you 634 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: to win, which I think is what you're trying to do, 635 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: but what allow you to win elections at the national level. 636 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: But you're in a very tricky spot if you're the 637 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Republican Party and your nominee is saying first term abortions 638 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: are fine, because Clay, I mean it is true that 639 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: most abortions occurred during the first term, right, so you're 640 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: basically saying this was fine. 641 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's also true if you look at 642 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: the data that Roe v. Wade being overturned has not 643 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: actually changed the number of abortions very substantially nationwide. So 644 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people are arguing now more so over fhilosophy. 645 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: And I think in Texas, I said, like fifteen, there's 646 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: actually an article that said, like fifteen thousand additional babies 647 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: were born just to you know, as an example, as 648 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: a result of change in the laws, which Democrats were 649 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: upset about, by the way, So it actually isn't the 650 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: case that this has had no effect. But it's state 651 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: by state. 652 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think my concern is that on the state 653 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: by state that abortion will actually be more common in 654 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned in California 655 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: and New York, for instance. It'll be less common in Texas, 656 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: but the actual impact will be almost non existent, right 657 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: that the number of abortions that are going to occur 658 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: will basically remain the same, and Republicans end up losing 659 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: elections because they get demonized as hey were the government. 660 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: We're going to show up and make sure that your 661 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: fourteen year old has an abortion. 662 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: Well, they're going to do that no matter what. So 663 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what Trump says, doesn't matter what anybody says. 664 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 665 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: You take it on head to head, and I think 666 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: you actually can win on the radical proposition being third 667 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: trimester abortions when babies are post viability, which I think 668 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: most people out there overwhelmingly reject. 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Now this is not to be clear, this 691 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: is not entirely unheard of, but what's in those fake 692 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: name emails? 693 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: HM? 694 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: Should the people be allowed to know? We shall discuss 695 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: to we have what There's one more call up that 696 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: we wanted to get to. I believe this is a 697 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: call still there, Carol in Carol in Ohio. What have 698 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: you got for us? 699 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: Well? I agree with you guys that abortion is going 700 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: to be a pretty big issue in the election. But 701 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: I think that I, like Nikki Hally, am unapologetically pro life. 702 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 3: But I don't think you can argue federal and state. 703 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: It went to the states. That's why Roe versus Wade 704 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: was overturned. And it comes down to just trying to 705 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 3: educate people on what's going on. But I don't think 706 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: if you bring a federal level in it all it's done, 707 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: because then just the word federal is going to cut 708 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 3: a lot of people off. But I also think you've 709 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: got to bring up more important issues too, not more important, 710 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: but similar issues, such as filed to sex trafficking because 711 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: of the open border, all the fectanol coming across. This 712 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: all affects moms too. And I think that the Republicans 713 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: are horrible at, you know, not really addressing what people 714 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 3: might touch their hearts with. And then the economy as well. 715 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: I think that's right. Boyl So, I think branding everybody 716 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: out there. I understand only ten percent of people have 717 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 2: a coherent political philosophy. Lots of people get influenced by branding, 718 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: and they are getting convinced that the Republicans are anti women. 719 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's true. I think you have to 720 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: fight it.