1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Here's word. I'll give Matt credit. He didn't 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: start bawling until he got down the stairs. He hopped 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: off on his own. No help, hard to do hop, 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: No hell, he looks ready for It's hard to hop 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: with help? How did people do? Just overall? You guys 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: are struggling. Really not you that I'm struggling for me, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: but not in relation to you guys. A news reporter 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: was breathless wondering if anybody asked him about Axel and 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that's news. You're not a capital jake. Journalists, please step 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: aside and let the real reporters bill. What would you 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: say to the fans who demands to know unless he 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: plays so middling that they can just get him on 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: a team friendly deal, But you gotta pay somebody. That's 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: a sneaky negative comment right there, so high. I didn't 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: expect it to be that higher and come down that fast. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna take a few months, sneaky, sneaky and tell you, 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: like I just come out and say it. You can 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: just come out and say it. He skirts around the corner. 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: I want to see Marcus Jones. I just wish that 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: we had some kind of clarity of what to expect him, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: when to expect him. You know, Bike, you don't need 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to know, You don't need to know. Okay, are you 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: picking the Patriots? This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: at Gilette Stadium, And well, how do you feel? I mean, 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: because it was hopeful. It was another victory Tuesday. It 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: was valiant effort. It was I know it doesn't count 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: as a win in the standings, but I went into 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the game thinking, okay, maybe we get to see what 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: this offense can do without Mac, and we ended up 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: being able to see what I could do without a quarterback, 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, without you know, Hoire, And I think there's 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: some hope there for the offense. I really do. I mean, 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't really open up the playbook for 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Zappy Um, but I think the old line played pretty well, 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I I have hope. I think, uh, 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: you know who knows going forward? Yeah, I mean it's 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: you're you're in the thick of it now. I mean, 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me not to just kind of 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: bury this Green Bay game for what it was. You 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: played your third string quarterback, you lost in over time. 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: They fought hard, but you know, now it's just like, well, 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: now you gotta win games like you're playing the Lions, 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: you're playing the Browns like these are this is it now? 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: It's this is not a moral victory unless you win 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: next week and you put some games together. You know, 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: so let's I'm not calling this a moral victory until 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: I see what happens as a result of this game. 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: I mean, and I thought, you know, I thought Zappy 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: was was fine. I mean, he didn't cost them the game. 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: He made a couple of throws, but you know, there 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot there for me to be like, wow, 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: this this this guy's gonna push. Mean, we were making 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the jone. We were making the joke during the game like, 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: oh Mac Jones is getting a little worried right now. 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, but now, I what did you know they 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: ran the ball? Well, I think that opened up some 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: things for them. They were able to manufacture a couple 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: of drives. But you know, at the end of the day, 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that you're talking about the third string quarterback offense, 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: and this isn't the offense we want to see or 64 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: hopefully that we're seeing in a few weeks. So we 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see the offense that I 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: agree with Fred. I was kind of looking forward to 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: see if it looked any different, and then we didn't 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: get to see the offense at all. But I think 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I give an a in this game to Patricia and Judge. 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I would agree, you know, for the way they managed 71 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: the situation. I would agree, Yeah, I think you can say, 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, like we don't have to get bogged down 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: in some antics of moral victory and all that stuff. 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I think you could say a lot of good things 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: about the Patriots without going overboard and saying they really 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: won the game. Like I think that they showed tremendous 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: character and heart. I talked the entire postgame show, and 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: I still I feel exactly the same way I did 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Sunday night, Mike. I give them ridiculously high marks for 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: going to lambeau Field, losing your quarterback, and then playing 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: with the third stringer, who, let's face it was given about. 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, conservatively ten to fifteen plays to work with, 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe and they can. They competed their asses off and 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: they gave themselves a chance to win. The other team 85 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: was trying their best to lose, and you couldn't take it. 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: It's unfortunately. That's the part to me that is unfortunate, 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: and that's why I don't like get bogged down in 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: the labels. I give them a lot of credit for 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: going there. This is one of the rare times where 90 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: really nobody gave him a shot to win, and they 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: had a shot to win. They had every opportunity to 92 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, it's 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: it's just unfortunate. They had their chances. And I think, 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, these last few games, they played really well 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: in pockets, you know, like like the defense played really 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: well in pockets, and you know, offensively, I agree with 97 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: you guys. I also think, like Matt Patricia, the development 98 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: of an offensive coordinator, so to say, is kind of 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: on display. Like I think that they did a pretty 100 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: good job. I also think that there are still moments 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: where they kind of get lost and don't quite have 102 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: the right aren't pushing the right button at the right moments. 103 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm with Fred on this element. I understand where you're going, 104 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and I think it probably deserves a larger conversation. I 105 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: take this game in a vacuum. I don't I don't 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: look at this game. It's like, Oh, these guys are 107 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: coming along in their in their approach, and this was 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: everything we were thinking going in. We gotta scrap all 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: that we got. We gotta take this kid by the hand. 110 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: In the three of us, Belichick, Patricia, Judge, we've got 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: a band together, and we gotta do whatever we can 112 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: to get this guy through this game and still have 113 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: a chance to win. And they did that. I mean, yeah, 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: they took the ball out of his hands for the 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: most part. I mean only threw fifteen passes. Most of 116 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: those were basically an obvious run situations where you know 117 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: it's run for five, run for eleven, run for here's 118 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: a hard play action. We're gonna we're gonna pop on 119 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: on you. And they worked, and they did a good job. 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: Twice I thought of scheming up, you know, Chunk plays 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: twenty plus yard plays, one of them for the Parker touchdown. 122 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: So I give. I'm with Fred, I give Patricia and Judge. 123 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I've been critical of them, But I'll give them a 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: lot of credit this game, because it's not easy to 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: go into a game like that and and have to 126 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: completely scrap everything that you wanted to do, because I mean, 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been fair to Zappy to just say 128 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: we can just run on our offense like we normally would. Yeah, 129 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: and people are you know, excited about the two Jones, 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Marcus and Jack. Marcus Jones has got me you know me, Yeah, 131 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: I got I got another, I got a bar more 132 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: like crush going on. Yeah. I mean, finally he's doing 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: what we thought he was here to do. He's he's 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: got the job, and you know he was put in there, 135 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think he's now won the job. They asked, Yeah, 136 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: they asked cam Acard about that. Today, we can't really think, yep, 137 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: it's his now, he's all good. He's not gonna have 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: to wory. I mean, of course probably that's what we're 139 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: all waiting for when they drafted him. Um just I 140 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: mean every single one, I felt like he got a 141 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: little more than you could have maybe expected. As an 142 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: average he gets up to the twenty yard are and 143 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: over time where you get to the fifty. I mean, 144 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: it's it's exciting. I think they need a game to play. Yeah, 145 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: they need you know, those kind of impact playmakers, and um, 146 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: it's it's about damn time. Will Marcus Jones get him 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: out there and let him do it? And you know, 148 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: we like the confidence that Jack Jones is showing. Uh 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think we're all kind of like, 150 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, a little run right out. I meant to 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: come up on the edge. I mean, I think that 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: he's scrappy and I don't think that he's afraid of contact. 153 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he just leans more into, as 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Paul said many times, trying to punch the ball out, 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: maybe more so than than tackling guys. I like the plays. 156 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean two turnovers, that's huge, Yeah, and that makes 157 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: up for a lot of stuff. But I mean it's 158 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: hard to uh, you know ignore. I think even Belichick 159 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: and his comments were like, you know, was hinting at 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: yeah he had those two plays, but he also questioning 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: that quote and ty Law. As you know, Fred never 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: met a challenge that he disrespect. Did you think that 163 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: he could meet? Yeah? But I think Marcus Jones is 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, people are excited about Jack for for obvious reasons, 165 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: but I think Marcus Jones is where it's at right 166 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: now as far as player that I'm most excited to bring, 167 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: a dynamic element without anything that I'm thinking at this 168 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: point he could give you a you know, Strange is 169 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: holding his zone. If we can get Thornton in there, 170 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good draft class. Strange definitely holding his own. Yeah, 171 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Strange definitely holding his own. Random behind him a lot. 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Jack Jones played a game and Marcus Jones Dappy, you 173 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: nailed them all. Uh, but but I agree, I mean, 174 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, Thornton. Thornton was probably the one early on 175 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: you were most excited about, just from a from a 176 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: trade standpoint. Having some speed out there. You know, how 177 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: much of a difference is going to make when they 178 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: get out there and if he's got you know, Zappy 179 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: is still out there, they're gonna be able to get 180 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: him the ball. I don't know, but yeah, it's uh, 181 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: there there were some good things. There were some good 182 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: things for sure from the rookies. Yeah, I have a 183 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, bigger picture thing with Jack Jones, Freddie, we'll 184 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: talk about the game. I'm sure roll with the you know, 185 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the balance of our show today. But so Jalen Mills 186 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: missed the game with a hamstring problem. Assuming he comes back, 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: does Jack Jones and the promise that he showed in 188 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: the playmaking, does that maybe allow you to say, Okay, 189 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: let's go with Jalen Mills and Jack Jones on the outside, 190 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: move Jonathan Jones back inside. I like that. I like that, 191 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know, instead of Miles Bryant, who I 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: think you know, struggled a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I 193 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: think it's an easy I mean, I like that move 194 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: better than trying to say, let's put Jack Jones in 195 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: the slot. I won't really seen him play there, but 196 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: I like that one better. I mean, especially against teams 197 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: where the slot might be more of an is. Yeah, 198 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: and there will be you know, matchups that you know, 199 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: like the Miami again. You know, he might want to 200 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: go with Jack Jones, I mean Jonathan Jones again on 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. But I mean, I think Jack Jones is 202 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: a guy that the way he played Sunday definitely warrants 203 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: more more time. And he's been I mean, he had 204 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: a role on defense from day one. He was out 205 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: there against Miami, you know, in some capacity. So I 206 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I think you could get some changes On 207 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: the other side, I think we started to see the 208 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: transition with Marcus Cannon for Isaiah Winn. I think that 209 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: John smith injury kind of derailed that because they had 210 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: so much now that I'm sort of hesitant to say 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: that it's Marcus Cannon now because John H. Smith, I 212 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: think is going to be out. I mean, someone reported 213 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: was a high ankle spring. So if that's what it is, 214 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I think Greg Badard reported that. If that's what it is, 215 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to see him this week either. So 216 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: do you bring Socol up? Even if you do, do 217 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: you still need Marcus Cannon to fill that extra tight 218 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: end role? Right? Yeah? You know you can't have him 219 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: be the full time tackle. I don't know. Yeah, I 220 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: mean I wrote I wrote down three issues after after 221 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: watching the game again. My three issues were right tackle consistency, 222 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: tight end blocking, and linebacker stops. Like I feel like 223 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the tight ends are useless in the blocking game. I mean, 224 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I Cannon, Sorry, Hunter Henry and John Who Smith and 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: like you know, and I know that John Who gots hurt, 226 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: but they're trying to do so much with those guys 227 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: blocking and they just have no juice in the blocking 228 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: game at all. There's no you know, plus energy taking guy. 229 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's like they kind of run and they 230 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: stop and they kind of get in the way. But 231 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I feel like so many players are getting blown up 232 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: by those guys. Paul brought up the right tackle thing. 233 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah Wins again, Isaiah win has been a problem. 234 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: And just Marcus Cannon, like the smile on his face 235 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: after the first roun he was out there for that. 236 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: They got like seven eight yards and he just looked excited, 237 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: and you know, just that like body language to me 238 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: was just get him in there, get him in there. 239 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: He wants to be out there. I know he's old, 240 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: but he's big. He's done it before. My last one 241 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: of the linebackers, Like I just and I just was 242 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: reading Evans thing and he pointed out something similar. Just 243 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Jawan Bentley, I don't get it, like he just they 244 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: seemed to run him into the line and then the 245 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: guy goes through the hole next day and this is 246 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: the fear that too close, he doesn't have a chance 247 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: to see what this is so fair that Mike and 248 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I were trying to talk about heading into the season 249 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: through the summer, it was like, you know, Mac Wilson 250 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: mack Wilson. Mack Wilson, this is what happens when you 251 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: have like a guy who's really not a big enough player. 252 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: You know. I think to be small and undersized, you 253 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: have to be exceptionally athletic, right, you know, And there 254 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: are guys there are to be There are examples of 255 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: those guys around the league. I don't think mack Wilson 256 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: has proven to be that as an NFL player. I 257 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: think there's some there's some value to mack Wilson. I'm 258 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: saying he doesn't belong in the field, but I think 259 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: you've seen last couple of weeks when you get some 260 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: power running attacks. Yeah, And that's what's my biggest disappointment 261 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: is after the first two weeks, I thought maybe maybe 262 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: they have improved, maybe the you know, maybe maybe the 263 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: front seven is better. It's not. I think it's tough. Okay, 264 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: what they do, not what they say, and what did 265 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: they do? They did nothing, That's my point. It's like that. 266 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought it was as big a deal. Well, 267 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: they decided not to get any linebackers. I mean, I 268 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: think the McMillan thumb injury has probably played I mean, 269 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I think he'd be playing maybe more than than Jelani 270 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: Tavai would. But you know, I actually thought I played 271 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: reasonably If I played reasonably well too, I just, you know, 272 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: like I'm just it jumped out to me watching it 273 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: again with Bentley, and it's like, I like what some 274 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: of these defensive linemen are doing. Like I mean, you 275 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: look at you know, I like the statu stops, you know, 276 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: like you make a tackle behind the line of scrimmage, 277 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: you hold them, you know, from getting the yardage for 278 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: a successful play. I mean Bentley's got three stops. I 279 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: mean he's forty eighth and stops per snap for linebackers. 280 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the good defenses. Who's making 281 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: the stops on those good defenses? The linebackers are you 282 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: look ours, It's either the front front guys like Godschaw, 283 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: or it's the back end guys make it. And it's 284 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: just I'm trying to struggle with what's going on with 285 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: the run defense. And it's something we talked a lot 286 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: about on the on the postgame show, and that was 287 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of my deep dive of just like they're also 288 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: thirty second in terms of football outsiders, you know, like 289 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: power stops behind the line, like winning those stuff runs 290 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: thirty second in the league. They don't play behind the 291 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I don't necessarily think it's the defensive 292 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: lineman's fault, who I think are pretty good at holding themselves. 293 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I do. I just don't think that they have the 294 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: linebackers to get through. I think that is that's the 295 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: to me right now is the biggest I'm gonna call 296 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: out my guy, one of my guys. I called for it. 297 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: I wanted more Barbard, I wanted more snaps. I don't 298 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: think he's been effective with more. Yeah. Yeah, he's had problems. 299 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: He's spent a little bit disappointing. Yeah yeah, and I'm 300 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: not again, doesn't mean that he's not still a really 301 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: good player. Doesn't mean he's not gonna still be, you know, 302 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, a force going forward. I just think that 303 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: their run defense, it's all it's it's the entirety or 304 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: the front seven. It's not just on linebackers. Like the 305 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: front seven gets moved off the ball on a consistent basis, 306 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: and that's through you know, the these two games have 307 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: been a problem to me, and I even go back 308 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: to the Miami game. The short yardage plays. They were 309 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: able to run for first downs in that game, you know, 310 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: when when they wanted to line it up and run it, 311 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: they were able to. Even though they didn't have big 312 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: numbers in that game, Pittsburgh was the was the one 313 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: game that I thought they played really well. I'm I'm 314 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna disagree with Paul. I don't. I don't think that. 315 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they do. They have their moments, 316 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: but I think that generally Godshaw, Carl Davis, Lawrence, I 317 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: think Carl Davis. I think Carl Davis is pretty good. 318 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: He might be that I have no use for it. 319 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: And Barnmore ended up on his back more times in 320 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: that game than I ever remember seeing. I have use 321 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: for Godshaw. I think he's having a real good season. 322 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and Tetrick wise has been pretty good too, 323 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: But I just I don't think it's enough. And I'm 324 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: not saying that they're consistent and they're great every down, 325 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: but I would disagree on Paul's point. They get pushed 326 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: around more. I would say more often than not, they're 327 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: doing their job and the linebackers are running into the 328 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: wrong hole and the guy's going through that. Those are 329 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the big runs now, I've seen me with Bentley, like 330 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: he's so close to the line, How on earth can 331 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: you diagnose what's going on? You've already filled the gap. Yeah, 332 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: and and you don't even know if that's the gap 333 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: into the wrong hole. I just you know, you don't 334 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: have those guys that get over the top. I mean 335 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: there was a couple times to me until Paul's point 336 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: where Tavia on the backside is getting there at the 337 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: same time as as as Bentley is. You know. So 338 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I just those off the ball middle spots. I think 339 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: a problems. I think the linebackers are a bigger problem. 340 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think the front has been great. I 341 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: think Carl Davison limited action, he shows up a little 342 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: bit totally. And I think Tetrich Wise has played well. 343 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the other guys have consistently put well. 344 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think Lawrence Guy was consistently playing well 345 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: when he was before he was hurt. I think that 346 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore for the first three quarters ran the 347 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: ball really well before Guy left the game. The other day. Yeah, 348 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I get two weeks ago. If Hoyer doesn't get hurt, 349 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: did the Patriots win this game? Everything else being even 350 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: if the game unfolds exactly the same, I say, yes, 351 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: but the whole game change. They can just do more 352 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: on offense. The whole game completely changes. Yeah, so it's 353 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: hard to you know, but if if you want to say, 354 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: but like everything happened exactly the same, Yeah they I 355 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: think they win. Yeah, yeah, I mean the fumble that 356 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean that didn't cost him, but feel position. I 357 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: mean that that took points off the board. I just 358 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: wonder how much they had to work with when Hoyer 359 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: went out. What did it really look like for like 360 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: how much did they have to scramble? How much like 361 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: a volume of plays? I mean, of course they had 362 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: to let me talk about just testing a you know 363 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: what kind of a But I also want how does 364 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: that impact? Like I was really struck by the candid 365 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: nature of Rogers after the game. Yeah, but admitted, like, yeah, 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: playing against a third string quarterback, I mean, we have 367 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: to win that, Like that's how we played. He played 368 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: like they went into the game saying, there's no way 369 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: we can lose this game. We have to win this. 370 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Like they played like they didn't have any urgency at 371 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: all until like the second half. Yeah, which was embarrassing. 372 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I thought Green Bass performance was was really like for 373 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: a so called really good team, that was a troubling performance. 374 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: If I'm a Packers fan, I wrote in the first half, 375 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: like his passes, Rogers passes looked like he was disgusted 376 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: with his team. Yeah you know. Yeah. And in the 377 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: first half, some of those go routes that he threw, 378 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: they had guys open and he was just like chucking them. 379 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: And the I mean the ult pass he was making. 380 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: He made fun of himself so bad. And did hear 381 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: his comment on that, like his qualm? Hear his comment 382 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: on that? Um he said that was such a bad 383 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: pass that Jack Jones almost overran it because he just, 384 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: like I think he was just thinking, I'll just throw 385 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: a quick one out here, we'll get a first down, 386 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get something going. Yeah, you know. 387 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: And then Jack Jones was like like he has been 388 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: all summer. He jumped, he jumped those out roads. Yeah, 389 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: so good. He's a ballhawk, so good. That was kind 390 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: of me. With Rashawn Kerry, that was I thought he 391 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: was I'll stay away from. I think he's an awesome player. 392 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Rashawn Kerry, I mean he was all over the place. Um, 393 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a it's a sample of 394 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: a defense that has a bunch of first round picks 395 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: that's seemed like they know what they want to do 396 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: and uh, and that that guy on the edge is 397 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: just he was he was a bit problem from start 398 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: to finish. So we're left with wildly entertaining second half. Though, 399 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I will say that well, I mean, you know, you 400 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about TV ratings, it's the first game this year 401 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: for the Patriots that they've gone over a thirty oh 402 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: and so it's not the new way that they're recording 403 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: the ratings. You know, people actually watched. I think they 404 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: peaked at like a thirty six, you know, because it 405 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: was a good game and the four o'clock start to 406 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: the four twenty five start helps. Yeah, you know, it's 407 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: like me picked to thirty six. Yeah, I mean, what 408 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: did you say, it's like PICKD to thirty six. I 409 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: think you met six. But it was, you know, just 410 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: from a fan standpoint, it was a thoroughly entertaining game. 411 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean they still do it. I mean the Tampa 412 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Bay game last year, the Dallas game last year. I mean, 413 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: they still are able to, you know, produce these games. 414 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: They haven't been able to get over the hump and 415 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: win them yet, which I think is the you know, 416 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: the big next step for them to you know, not 417 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: just have these moral victories against good teams, you know, 418 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: you go toe to toe. Well, that's that's why I 419 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: don't really care what happens in the next five weeks, 420 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be a while before I can see 421 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: if there's any impact. You know, I'd say, if there's 422 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: two things that I think we're missing right now, it's 423 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker play and tight end play. Man, we could 424 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: use some tight end play for this offense. You know, 425 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: I think they could use a lot of things. Well, 426 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: I know, I start somewhere. Yeah, you gotta right, you 427 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere. You know. It's just we're not getting 428 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: anything to get from the tight end. Yeah, I mean, 429 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: that's I mean, everything else seems like secondary to the 430 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: quarterback issues of not only getting Mac back, but you know, 431 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: helping hoping that this run game can continue this trajectory 432 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: of how well they're running the ball and you know, 433 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: hopefully that will help help Mac when he gets back. 434 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: I heard during the third quarter Mac called Bill and said, Hey, 435 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a lot better. That's that was our joke 436 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: that be through that touchdown past oh Max Max in reality, 437 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: now you know, if you were going to go and happen, 438 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: I would have been like, yeah, no, I think it's 439 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: going to be two more weeks. Good luck with that 440 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: horriers out. I think it's gonna be two more weeks 441 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: before I'm ready. Do you think they're going to roll 442 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: out John who out this this week and just have 443 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: them stand at practice with his higher stand watch throwing 444 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: passes into the net. So you know, the big question was, 445 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, had Zappy got hurt, then what you know? 446 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: And I heard that Hunter Hunter Henry might have been 447 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: called into adds Kendrick Borne and DeVante Parker. According to 448 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: those in the press box, we're doing a lot of 449 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: throwing between sis. I think they would have gone wildcat. 450 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: I think they would too with Damian Harris. Yeah, I 451 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: think Damian Harris did some wildcat at Alabama. Yeah. I 452 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been surprised if they went in that direction. Yeah, 453 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: but I mean they're in a I'll tell you when 454 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: when he got when Bailey got Bailey, I don't ever 455 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: do that. When Zappy got lit up, Um, there was 456 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: a second I was like, yeah, and I would have 457 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: they Yeah, they're in a little bit of a pickle 458 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: right now. Who So I think because of that, I 459 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: don't think it will happen, But I think there's a 460 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: chance that Mac comes back this week because I think 461 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: that there's something like I'm going to operate under the 462 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: premise that lawyer is out. I don't I don't have 463 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: any information on that. Yeah, but I just think to 464 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: be ruled out that quickly with a concussion means he 465 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: had a concussion even though they just called I think 466 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: they called him a head injury, right, and then they 467 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: ruled him out, and then they ruled him out quickly. 468 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: So I think to get out of concussion protocol and 469 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: get back. Now, we'll see tomorrow. You know when Wednesday 470 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: when they practice, Evan will go out there and give 471 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: us the update. If he's out there at practice, then 472 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think Hoyer will start what if they're 473 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: all back concussion? See Mack again, don't confuse what Mac 474 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: did last week with practicing. Mac was out there, he 475 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: was listening to DP right, so he didn't practice, did 476 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: not even take a step. Okay, So I think I'm 477 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: with Fred, like, if you have to go into a 478 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: week and you're saying, all right, we need to formulate 479 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: a real, actual NFL game plan with Bailey Zappy. And 480 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: this is no disrespect to a rookie fourth round pick. 481 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: We saw him this summer. He's far far away from 482 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: being able to operate the offense that you would need. 483 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: You can do what you did on Sunday? How many 484 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: times can you do that and expect to be competitive, 485 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: especially when the other team knows it's coming right now, 486 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: They're like, well, if there's a quarterback signing this week, 487 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: then we know that the lawyer is definitely not coming back. Well, 488 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I think you'll see a quarterback signing this week. You're 489 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: stunned if you don't. I mean, not the practice squad. 490 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: But you gotta have some layer of protection, right, Like, Okay, 491 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: let's if mac Jones place on Sunday. Are you confident 492 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: that he's going to be still playing in the second quarter? 493 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't even walk four days ago. Yeah, 494 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: And I listen, I'm not telling you he can't play. 495 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures. 496 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they want him to play, but if 497 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: Horrier can't go, and it's jes zappy. Then maybe Mac, 498 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, feels some pressure. I gotta be out I 499 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: gotta be out there for my guys. You know, that's 500 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: what happened to Garoppolo, right, you know, all of a sudden, 501 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Brady suspended, Garoppolo separates his shoulder and it's down to 502 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette and it's all on Brissette and then he 503 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: hurts his thumb and then they kill him. They kill 504 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Garoppolo for not coming back because we need you right. 505 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh so it has nothing to do with my shoulder. 506 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: It's you need me right. And that's what I'm really 507 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: worried that that's what's going to happen to Mac Jones. 508 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, Cam is spelled mash. You know, Max spelled backwards. 509 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather put Harris back there in Wildcat the whole game. 510 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: But I was just thinking, like, if you needed a 511 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: quarterback who you know, you're not really gonna run your playbook. 512 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: Kim's kind of you know, he could just run Wildcat, 513 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: he could run option. You thought you thought the playbook 514 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: last time? Cam? Can we not? The last couple of years, 515 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: we've had a couple I know, like the Jake Dolagala, 516 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: we call. We talked about him, um a little bit 517 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday? Did we have Garret Gilbert? Was he here? 518 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: Then he got signed to Washington? Right, Yeah, he had 519 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: to play a game for Washington. Yeah. So it's been 520 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that have been around, so I 521 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: would see if one of those guys is interested. You know. 522 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that we didn't hear about 523 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: a workout yesterday, but we'll see. How about that guy 524 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Chad that worked out recently? The mustache? Yeah, I looked 525 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: like Eli Manning, No thanks? Do you hear him last night? 526 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: It was a streaker in the Rams game and then 527 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: making fun of him. Bobby Wagner just drills the guy 528 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: in Peyton's like, that's it, Bobby, you could jump by 529 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: Wagner there. And then Eli just like with that dead pin, 530 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: like really undertone. He's like, I mean, if you're in 531 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: a streak right, your streak right, your stripped, you go naked, 532 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: you go full throttle the were he goes go full throttle? 533 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Oh? Was the guy in 534 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the in Super Bowl thirty eight that chat him? Was 535 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: he was he butt naked? Like he had like you 536 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: have like a body sock kind of thing. He had 537 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: like a like a something like a shock, but it 538 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: was with clear plastic, so it looked from behind like 539 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: he was wearing nothing, but he was covered up. I 540 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: was so far away, Mike, I don't really know. Well, 541 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: I I was zeroed in on it. What's going on? 542 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: I actually was next to Fred. I was in the 543 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: real that one back when they still let you up there. Yeah, 544 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: Matt Schadams claim to fame. That's it smoked on Ye, 545 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: he did smoke. He did a good job on that one. 546 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Eight five Pats five hundred ticket hot line eight five 547 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: p five hundred. Kind of a weird Sunday. A lot 548 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: of close games, a lot of comebacks. You know, it 549 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: looked like the bills we're gonna get were loose and 550 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: then they just came right back and for going forward 551 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: on fourth down. Yeah, it was weird for me. Was 552 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: like Mike and I were watching all the one o'clock 553 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: games on red Zone, and every game seemed to be 554 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: in the same like ridiculously dreary conditions, and all of 555 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: a sudden, we go to lambeau Field and it was 556 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: like a spotlight was on Green Bay, like the sun 557 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: was out it was beautifully like the field was immaculate, 558 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: the like you're watching the game like Hinz Field, the 559 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: field already looks like you know, they had three three 560 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: World Wars took place there, you know, Philadelphia, Baltimore. I 561 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: think the Giants game was at MetLife. It was like 562 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: driving rain and wind was awful conditions and it just 563 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: was the most picturesque site. Was pristine. Yes, like the 564 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: my overstated at the field, but absolutely beautiful on TV, 565 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: to the point where I said, is this real grass? 566 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: And I looked it up. It's a hybrid glass grass. 567 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: It's grass in some synthetic um that they weave together, 568 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: you know. But it looked smoked. It was really it 569 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: was perfect that field, Um, you know blue grass. What 570 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: did you get? Jesus? What did in Wisconsin? We I 571 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: went to Lombardes. It was in the hotel. I just 572 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: sat at the bar and ate there. Nothing. He just 573 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: went to the hotel bar. It was lombard He's a steakhouse. 574 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: It's nice. Fred. Yeah, we walked around. I went to 575 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: a cigar bar and watched a little college football before dinner. 576 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah that was good. Oh cheese, I don't 577 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: need that curd yea, And I know that young kids 578 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: went bar hopping. We stayed at in Appleton and it's 579 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: it's like a nice strip of stores, restaurants and bars, 580 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: and so they went bar hopping. But I can't do 581 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: that anymore. No, No, you know we're snoring by nine thirty. 582 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: That's the old guys. Yeah what I was in asleep. 583 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: So we went out in Appleton before. That was a 584 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: long time ago though. Yeah, that was like oh six, Yeah, 585 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: that was the thirty five nothing game. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers. No, well, 586 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Brett fare started played like a serious right to keep 587 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: his fraudulent street going. Remember that one? So all right, um, yeah, 588 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: So any any other NFL things you wanted to bring up, 589 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: or just Jamie Collins back. I mean that's practice. Talked 590 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: about that a little bit on the practice squad, Harvey 591 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: LONGI released. We'll see what happens if Cannon did revert 592 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: to the practice squad. But I feel like that could 593 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: be a promotion to active roster. I think they still 594 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: have a spot with could just going on ir last week. 595 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: So I don't think anybody would would really question that 596 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: move of of bringing him back, And you know, it's 597 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: it's just a question of can you know, is Isaiah 598 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: win then ready to play that kind of like third 599 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: tackle tight end kind of spot. Can he do that? 600 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure it can, but yeah, I don't know. I 601 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: just would feel i'd feel a little bit better about 602 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: the right side of the line if Cannon gets in there. 603 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Lions who Patriots next opponent forty five 604 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: points in a loss. They're leading the league and points 605 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: scored and leading the league and points allowed in a 606 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: bad way, fast and loose. I mean, it just, you know, 607 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: it's like part of me is thinks like, well, the 608 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: old Patriots would always kind of beat a team like this, 609 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: But I also just think that this is a team 610 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: that isn't really a team you can pin down, like, 611 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you might get them, but they just don't 612 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: really seem to care. They'll score at thirty five, they'll 613 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: give up thirty seven. I mean, it's just you don't 614 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: really know what to expect from them, and I feel 615 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: like that's a little bit dangerous. We'll see. I mean, 616 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: I think the big part of it is is Saint 617 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: Brown and Swift. You know, if those two guys can 618 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: come back and give that offensive boost. I mean, they 619 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: scored all those points without those two guys probably their 620 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: best players. So I think they doesn't sound like the 621 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: offense needs a boost. I think they have a good offense. 622 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: I do, but I do wonder also if I know Philadelphia, 623 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: most of the second half, they would down two scores, 624 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: to their credit, they kept kept fighting back thirty eight 625 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: thirty five. The Seattle game, most of the second half, 626 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: they would down two scores. Again, to their credit, they 627 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: kept fighting back forty eight forty five. Now, the other 628 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: games that they had, they won a game that they 629 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: scored like thirty two or something like that, and thirty 630 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: thirty six, actually thirty six twenty seven they beat Washington, 631 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, they won a game they scored 632 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: thirty six and the other game was twenty eight twenty 633 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: four against Minnesota. Good. So I I do think they 634 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: have a good offense, but I wonder if maybe it's 635 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: a little inflated in that they're behind in the second 636 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: half of some of these games. They have good players, 637 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: so they're able to make some plays in situations where 638 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: maybe the defense is a little different. Yeah, I don't know, 639 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Like I haven't watched the games closely. I'm just that's 640 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: very superficial. But Mike's right. DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams 641 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: both are capable running backs, averaging uh, you know, well 642 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: over for a carry in Swiss cases lay the league 643 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: and five point nine yards per carrying in their rushing game. Yeah, 644 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly right, Freddie, five point nine. And so that 645 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: they've rushed, they've run the ball well. Saint Brown has 646 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: been as productive as virtually any receiver not named Cooper Cup. 647 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, twenty three catches in three games. Is that's 648 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: no joke? Eight catches a game. I think Josh Reynolds 649 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: is a solid NFL receiver. T J. Hawkinson had a 650 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: career day at tight end the other day. And I 651 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: think Jared Goff is not going to be confused with 652 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: a top ten guy, but I think he's with some experience. 653 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better and I think he's a 654 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: decent fit for this offense. I think that he's eleven touchdowns, 655 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: three picks. So I don't I'm not telling you their 656 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: offense stinks and it's overrated and all that. I think 657 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good offense. I just don't know if 658 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those offenses that you know, I mean 659 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: you could just slow him down. You're not going to 660 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: stop him, No, I think you can probably force some 661 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: mistakes with these guys. Yeah, Like I like their offensive 662 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: line too. I mean I think Frank Ragnow is a 663 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: guy that that I think the Patriots were kind of 664 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: interested in sewell from from last year. You know who's 665 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: who's a really good right maybe the best player in 666 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: that draft class. You know, it's him and Slater. Yeah, 667 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: So I mean I think they give go off some time, 668 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: they're able to open up some holes, and I mean, 669 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I just wouldn't be surprised either way. 670 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Like I think if they came in and all the 671 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: Patriots they kind of figured this offense out and shut 672 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: them down. I mean that's maybe the old school. Yeah, 673 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: I approached to it. I'd be stunned if that. If 674 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: they hold him on her twenty, I'd be shocked, but 675 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I think i'd be I'd be really surprised if they 676 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: gave up more than thirty. So, I don't know, we're 677 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of stuck in that Middlaria with these guys. Yeah, 678 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really shocked if they're under twenty, but I'd 679 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: be shocked if they got shot down, you know the 680 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: words like it's one of those you know, two hundred 681 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: and twelve yards of offense and you know twelve points. 682 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if it was one of those days. 683 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: All right? Eight five five five hundred is a ticket 684 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: hot line. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the 685 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: email address. Let's turn to our listeners. See what they 686 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: have to say. Patty's an agawam on the East ticket 687 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: hot line. What's up, Patty stub? Gentlemen, Hey, hey, so 688 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a couple would you rather? And 689 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: then throw out my state of the Patriots so far 690 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: through four weeks. So this is regarding signing a quarterback 691 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: on the practice squad? Would you rather Cam Newton or 692 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Danny at Ling? I want no, I have no interest 693 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: in either one of those players. Yeah, yeah, but you 694 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: have to choose Paul. That's the quarterback I don't even know. Yeah, 695 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: I can't say Kim coming up in this year's draft? 696 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Would you rather than get a dynamic tight end with 697 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: their first pick, or like a franchise tackle right or left, 698 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: franchise tackle. I'm gonna stun you by saying that over 699 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: a dynamic tight end right, Like what you know like 700 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: George Kittle like to me, how about t J Hodkinson. 701 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take the tackle. Take the tackle, Okay, 702 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: at this point, probably the tackle. Like if you had 703 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts or with Sean Slater, which one would you take? 704 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: I would take Slater. I mean, I mean, we'll see 705 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: what Pitts ends up being. But I just think it's 706 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: hard to dominate like that. Yeah, it's pretty good, and 707 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: through four games, team much but um, through four games 708 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: at least, this team looks like a reasonable fac simile 709 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: of last year's team. And I'm just hoping that when 710 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: Mac is back and towards the end of the year, 711 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: that we we actually see them start beating some of 712 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: these better teams in the league. You know, hopefully they 713 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: pull out a win again, Miami can steal one against Buffalotle. 714 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Bit at least through or four weeks that it kind 715 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: of looks the same as last year. Well that's all 716 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: got kid, Okay, I mean I think this year could 717 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: be better than last year if Mac kept playing and progressed. 718 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: It's all about Mac, It's all about Max. But wouldn't 719 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: you say through the three games that he played it 720 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: looked very similar to last year. Um, because I would 721 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of agree with with Patty. I'm sure, yeah, I 722 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: would say so generally. Yeah, I mean it's it's I mean, 723 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: it's not really hard to see this season looking a 724 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: lot like last year with the games the way they've 725 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: lined up, and you know, I think that that's the 726 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: question that last that last month of the season, those 727 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: last six eight games. How can they you know, beat 728 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: those good teams. That's that's the big one. Let's go 729 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: to Tyler in Connecticut. What's up Tyler? Hey, guys, how 730 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: are you doing good? Hey, so first time Cohen I've 731 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: been listening to since twenty nineteen. I appreciate all the 732 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: insight you guys give us on the Patriots. Um, my 733 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: question is about injuries. Have the Patriots always been like 734 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: this as far as not being a straight answer on injuries? 735 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean I go on NFL Network and I see 736 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: the next day teams saying statuses of players the next day. 737 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Is this a tactic of Bill Belichick or yeah, something 738 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: that he's always done. Every team's a little different, Like 739 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: I've I've seen coaches like bring out their team doctor 740 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: and actually have him answer questions to end in the 741 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: extreme of what we do. And it's always been like that. Um, 742 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: there was a I remember when Parcels with here, we 743 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: got tagged a fine for not putting something accurately on 744 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the injury report. And after that, like they went overboard 745 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: the other way. They list everybody. Belichick's done the same thing. 746 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: They they they do the absolute minimum always, They've always 747 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: been somewhat limited with their information regarded injuries. It's you know, 748 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I just I feel like I saw it 749 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: more of this season with Tek and time Mountgomery, and 750 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: it just I wasn't too sure how that works. And 751 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: you know Belichick got that from Parcels he did. You know, 752 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Parcel's famously said I'm in the business of getting information, 753 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: not giving it. So it was always the bare minimum. 754 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: Fair enough. My last question for you guys the rookie 755 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: running back. I know Harrison on the practice squad. You're strong. 756 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: I see him on the sideline sitting there. You guys 757 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: think you'll get in there it all this season? I mean, 758 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: right now, you don't need him. And and you know this, 759 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: I hear that on the blog. Okay, now we need 760 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: to get strong involved. No, we don't. We don't need 761 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: to do that. It isn't the whole point of splitting 762 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the carries between Harris and Stevenson. So you don't need 763 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: another guy, right right, Like he's there, and it's good 764 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: that he's there because of probably one of them is 765 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: going to get dinged up at some point. Then you'll 766 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: know if that happens, then you and then you'll use 767 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: you'll need some the Montgomery might be back by that, 768 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: thanks Tyler, right right, yeah, But like it's always like, Okay, 769 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: we've got these guys, now, let's get this guy. Yeah, 770 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: and listen, he's just he's just a rookie. He's coming 771 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: out of one double a. Um, I'm willing to be paid. 772 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen anything from Pierre Strong yet. No, 773 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean like you you made a 774 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: point earlier in the show, Freddie, you know, you know 775 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: Cole Strange is starting. Um. Jack Jones and Marcus Jones 776 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: both had good contributions on Sunday, and Bailey Zappy stepped 777 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: off the bench and did enough to put you in 778 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: position that you had a chance. It's a pretty good 779 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: draft class, you know, Shaping up is a pretty good draft. Claus. 780 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: It's a long way to go. It's the MVP who 781 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: never played right. Um, he'll get better and better as 782 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: the weeks go by, but you know, I think there's 783 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: this desire that, like every guy's got to be great, 784 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: and you know we're wasting this opportunity. You know, like 785 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: Pierre Strong really didn't do a lot in training camp. 786 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: What was it your feeling on James White when he 787 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: was here his rookie year and I mean didn't really play, 788 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: But did you have any like did he I thought 789 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: he looked good in the summer, but he didn't get 790 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: any chances to play. But he was also behind. Like 791 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: the difference to me is he was behind an established 792 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: guy at that spot, whereas the opportunity is there for 793 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: the take in if he has the ability to be 794 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: a third down guy. There's no one here, yeah, I 795 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: mean there's no James White, there's no Brandon Bolden, and 796 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: now there's no Time Montgomery. There's an opportunity if he 797 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: was willing, you know, if he was able to fill that. 798 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's just one of the bigger 799 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: surprises for me from the summer was just not really 800 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: ever seeing anything out of either of those guys that 801 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: you know gave you pause. I mean I would think 802 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: even with like Ridley and Vereen when they came in 803 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: or you know, that's why I asked about James White. 804 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't really remember him in the preseason, but you know, 805 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: at least you knew out of the gate that, all right, 806 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: there's something there. I don't really like it. I like 807 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: the James White draft picks, so I think I'm kind 808 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: of a little biased on that. Maybe I saw more 809 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: than was really there on the positive side, because you 810 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: know how I am. I have my pets both ways, 811 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'll admit I'm too harsh on guys that I 812 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: initially right off, So I'll gladly admit that sometimes my 813 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: biases were four and against me. Yeah, I think I 814 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: think James White was just a steady guy. So he 815 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: never really liked amazed you in the summer when he 816 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: first got here, but he was just just steady. No, 817 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: but he was behind Verene. Yeah, you never really got 818 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: a chance. One more thing to bring up to that 819 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: I don't think really gets mentioned. I think I think 820 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: Stevenson's still got some issues in past protection like I 821 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: think that those are that that's something that is a 822 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: problem at times that I think people are putting too 823 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: much on the offensive line with him a little bit 824 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: on third down. I know one of I know one 825 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: of the sacks he had a chance should have chipped 826 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: the guy. But I I there was another one too, 827 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: with another one of the sacks where it was to 828 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: the left side, and it was kind of him and 829 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: Trent trying to work a two man combo coming off 830 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: the left side. I think they put it on Trent, 831 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: but it's just it doesn't look like he's got it 832 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: all down just yet in past protection. Uh, let's go 833 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: to Leon, who's in Wisconsin. What's up Leon? Kind of Hey, 834 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I have a fun question, so nice. What do you 835 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: guys think the chances are that Bailey, Zappais and mac 836 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Jones thinks becomes like a Brady and bled those situations. 837 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: You guys think that happened. I don't think it. I 838 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: don't think that would happen. I don't. Yeah, I don't 839 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: think Zappy's that good. Yeah, I I agree with Fred, 840 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: I'd agree with I got one more question. I don't 841 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: you know how Odell Beckham's always flirted with the idea 842 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: going to the Patriots or we heard tedline. What are 843 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: the chances you guys think we actually bring him on 844 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: board this season. Probably not high. Yeah I wouldn't, but 845 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: if he got healthy and he wanted a job, and 846 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean I could maybe, but I mean he's still 847 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: all around the Rams, right like then they have him 848 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: like on the fields, like the Rams could probably use them. Yeah, 849 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: they mean they do because it's that whole passing attack. 850 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: It is just Cooper Stafford anybody else. And Stafford got 851 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and I think he's dropped off. Um 852 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think Cooper Cup has forty three catches 853 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: and the next highest guy has like ten, so crazy 854 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: it was him in Saint Brown probably jeez yeah jee uh. 855 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: All right, five past five hundred Web radio at Patriots 856 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: dot Com is the email address, So let's go. So, 857 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: who starts this week? Freddie? Who starts a quarterback this week? 858 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: It's Hoyer healthy. We don't know any of this information. 859 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm asking for you to give me your thoughts today. 860 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, as you like to say in the picks contest, 861 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: it's not like anything's on the line. I mean, the 862 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: whole too of thing is, you know, on everyone's mind. 863 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: So everyone's going to air on the side of caution. 864 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: See to me, it has nothing to do with that. 865 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: If he has a concussion, he has a concussion. If 866 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't, he can play. I think he has a concussion. 867 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: Could he have a concussion and play? Is that I mean? 868 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying if he has a concussion, he came up 869 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: from Sunday, If he had a concussion from Sunday and 870 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: got cleared, then I think he should play. But I 871 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: don't think he will get clear I don't think I 872 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: think he has a concussion. Like I don't think this 873 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: was like because of what happened to too where they 874 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: said no, no, no, you have a concussion, which I 875 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: think a lot of people, not you, Fred, but a 876 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: lot of people. I think on Sunday there were a 877 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: lot of concussions. A lot of guys were out of 878 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: games quickly due to concussion. I think it was like eleven, 879 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. I don't just think that 880 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: that's an overreaction to what happened to Tooa, but you know, 881 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. But I don't think 882 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: it's just an overreaction. You either have a concussion or 883 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: you don't. Well, you know, it's funny because like they've 884 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: been touting, oh, over the last x amount of years, 885 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: concussions have gone down because of the safety measures. Is 886 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: that why you know they go down? I also loved 887 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: the stats that came out in the summer with those 888 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: Guardian caps touting how few because they were they were 889 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: comparing training camp to training camp. Well, do you think 890 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: it has anything to do with the fact that I 891 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: don't know. I watched every Patriots practice. I never saw 892 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: them hits, right, So it's probably hard to get a 893 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: concussion when you're not hitting anymore in training camp. Let's 894 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: say a dozen players this Sunday twelve. Yeah, and again, 895 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: I know, a concussion is a hard thing to diagnose, Like, 896 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: there's no, it's not a broken bone. It's the old cliche, right, 897 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: you can't just put an X ray up and say, oh, yep, concussion. 898 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, if a guy has a concussion, the medical 899 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: people right now probably gonna look at this and say, 900 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: let's make sure we're extra careful with Brian Hoyer, and 901 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: before we clear him, we're gonna make sure we're gonna 902 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: have all our eyes dotted and t's crossed and make 903 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: sure this is above board. Yeah, I think there's probably 904 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: something that going on. Point Yeah, that's where I think 905 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: the Tua impact comes in. I don't think Brian Hoyer 906 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: was forced to leave the game on Sunday with a 907 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: concussion because of what happened to Toua. You know, I 908 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: just saw the video of Shack Leonard for the Colts. 909 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: Did you see that he was out? Like that's not 910 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: because of what happened to Toua, No, but that he 911 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: that he wasn't allowed to come back in the game. 912 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: But I rod Taylor went down and left like he 913 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 1: left the ball, like he was like his he was limp, 914 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: his body was like he had lost the ball. Yeah. 915 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: But if someone did this week what Tua did last, 916 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks, two weeks ago, he'd be out. Yeah, 917 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, because now it's like, I don't care what 918 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: the protocol, let's make correct. This guy's wobbling all over 919 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: the correct Whereas Brian Hoyer immediately went off the field 920 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: himself and went right to the tent. Yeah, and then 921 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: quickly from the tent to the locker room. Yeah, you know. 922 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: So so then I get some exactly little context. AJ 923 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: mccarn's working out for the Giants today, So showing you 924 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: who's out there, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a 925 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: name attached to the Patriots at some point soon, because 926 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: I think whether Mac Jones, Brian Hoyer, and let's just 927 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: say all three of them are healthy, it's tenuous, right, Yeah, Like, 928 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: if Mac Jones is able to play on Sunday, can 929 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: you go into that game saying that, I'm pretty sure 930 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: he'll still be playing in the second quarter, right, I 931 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: got to see him jog out. And Brian Hoyer, you 932 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: don't have any idea probably now if he's gonna I mean, 933 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: unless he's already out of protocol, which I think is 934 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: highly unlikely. And has has Hoyer had a concussion history 935 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: in the past, I don't needed to make a dive 936 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: on that. I feel like he has. I mean, I 937 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: mean I always sort of operate out of the premise 938 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: that these guys all have concussion histories, because they've all 939 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: played football at a high level for a long time, 940 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: even rookies. Reno has a question, why why can't you 941 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: all have all fifty three players active on game day 942 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: like you do? Why do you have to have an 943 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: inactive list? Yeah. The short answer to that, as Belichick 944 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: has explained it to me in the past, is that 945 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: not all teams have fifty three healthy players. Right, so 946 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 1: there would be a chance if you have a fifty 947 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: three man roster and you don't have any injuries, but 948 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: the team you're playing has, you know, five guys that 949 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: are hurt. Well, now now it's fifty three healthy bodies, 950 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, against forty eight healthy bodies. That's why they 951 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: feel like if you have an inactive list, that more 952 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: than likely it's going to make up all of your 953 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: your injured players. Yeah, and then his second question is 954 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: did players not change teams before free agency was a thing? 955 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Obviously far less often, but yeah, there were trades and whatnot. 956 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: But you know, Patriots famously traded Jim Plunkett to San 957 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: Francisco for three first round picks and and more. You know, 958 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini and and Stabler were traded for each other 959 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: in the early eighties. Um, so there are there are 960 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: examples of guys that change teams without necessarily like getting 961 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: released and just getting picked up by somebody else. But yeah, 962 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: obviously free agency has changed that. Yeah, thanks to Matt Morrel, 963 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: he sent me a thing. Um, just a little history. 964 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: Hoyer Hire had two concussions in less than a month 965 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: with the Texans back in twenty fifteen, so definitely has 966 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: some history there. Back to the phones, Williams and Philam. 967 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: What's up William, Hey Bred? How are you doing good? Hey? 968 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: Fall I just want to clear fro something When you 969 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: said about what was the linebacker camera growing that the 970 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: Pages drafted, he said he was a fifth round pick. Yeah. 971 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: What I was trying to explain when I was trying 972 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: to explain to you was this day was big on him. 973 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: So they passed up on Devin Lloyd or even trying 974 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: to get maybe rightfall rokarn Smith. You see what I'm saying, 975 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: But now you had to go get Jamie Collins. But 976 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: how do you know that you see what I'm saying? 977 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: How do you know they passed up on Devin Lloyd 978 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: because of Cameron mcgron, because they went with the left guard. No, 979 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: I understand that they went with a left guard, But 980 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: why do you think that that was because they had 981 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: Cameron mcgron. Okay, I mean, I don't mean you might 982 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: be you might be one hundred percent right, but I 983 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: think that they very well could have loved Devin Lloyd, 984 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: w NA Kobe Deane and they liked Cole Strange better. Right, 985 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: I like I don't know what mcgron has to do 986 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,479 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, that's that's my point. But I also 987 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: don't know. And this is one of the things about 988 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots that you you rarely find out these kinds 989 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: of things. Sometimes little nuggets trickle out. They don't let 990 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: you know what the aboard looks like. And for all 991 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: I know, it was going to be a guard all 992 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: the way. Thanks William. You know, I don't know, but 993 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: I know. There was a lot of talk in the 994 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,959 Speaker 1: media about the young linebackers that had really yet to play, 995 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: the Ouchs, the Jennings, the mcgrons, to a lesser extent, 996 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: ray Kua McMillan, who got hurt last year. There was 997 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about those guys this offseason. My 998 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: guess is that William is somewhat right in that when 999 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: the local reporters are talking up those kinds of guys, 1000 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: generally someone's telling them this is why we didn't this 1001 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,439 Speaker 1: is why we didn't take. We're high on these guys. Here, 1002 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I would argue, that's foolish for a fifth round pick 1003 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: who's never played in the league. You're not going to take, 1004 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't like Devin Lloyder, you don't 1005 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: like anybody else, that's fine, But I'm not going to 1006 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: ignore a highly touted linebacker because I have a fifth 1007 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: round pick coming off a town acl who's never played 1008 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: a snap in the league. Right, Does that make any sense? 1009 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think Belichick does that. No, No, And 1010 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean and I even I just think it was 1011 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: more about the veterans. It was about Wilson. I mean, unfortunately, 1012 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: it was about Toby. They like him, they see him 1013 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: as one of their guys, as an inside off the 1014 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: ball linebacker. Um. And as you said, McMillan, I think 1015 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: it's moment more about them. I don't know. I just 1016 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 1: wonder if there was anybody ever inside this building saying 1017 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: we're really high on Cameron mcgron, Like, I mean, no 1018 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: offense to him, but he just seems like a mobile 1019 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: special team Z flyer coming off an injury. I don't 1020 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: I never really expected him to be mister All World 1021 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: linebacker this year, right, And you know, I think he's been. 1022 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: I think he's been battling some injuries right now too 1023 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: while on the practice squad. UM. But it is interesting 1024 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: when they bring back Collins, they let go Longy, so 1025 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe they do kind of look at mcgron as a 1026 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: guy that might be able to do these things if 1027 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: he's healthy, because longye, I mean I think as recently 1028 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: as two weeks ago was elevated, right, wasn't the active 1029 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: rush like two weeks agad one elevation yep, And now 1030 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: evidently he's working out with the Ravens. Yeah, just like that. 1031 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. I just I think that 1032 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: we didn't see him get any time in this summer, 1033 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: Like he got no meaning not a single meaningful snap mcron. 1034 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: There wasn't one time where it seemed like they even 1035 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: gave him a shot, whereas you couldn't say that about 1036 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: Jack Jones, Marcus Jones. I mean, you know, I saw 1037 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: these other guys out there at least. Look why I 1038 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: haven't really had much you know, Um, I haven't had 1039 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: much optimism on Ronnie Perkins for the same reasons another 1040 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,959 Speaker 1: guy left out of that right list. We just haven't 1041 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: seen him get any what I would say high level reps. 1042 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: And by high level, I mean at least with the 1043 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: first two groups. Yep. You know, like Josh Bledsoe got 1044 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: a ton of reps with you know, with guys that 1045 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: are gonna play I don't think he'll ever be out 1046 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: there unless you have a rash of injuries at safety. 1047 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: But he got a ton of reps playing like next 1048 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: to Devin mccordy, even with the depth that they already 1049 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 1: have established at safety. Yeah, Bill and DC happily moral victory. Tuesday. 1050 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: When the schedule came out, I had the Patriots record 1051 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: at one and three, so I can't be too unhappy. 1052 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: And then I had them going four and one for 1053 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: the next five with an automatic win against Detroit. Now, 1054 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 1: with Matt probably out, I'm kind of pessimistic about this Sunday. 1055 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: Detroit gives up a ton of points, but they also 1056 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: score a ton. In fact, they're averaging thirty five a 1057 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: game for tops in the league. If Zappi's a starter, 1058 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing the Patriots will get 1059 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: into the thirties. How do you guys see this game 1060 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: playing out? I need someone to talk me off the ledge. 1061 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think you fail out thirty 1062 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: five points. That's going to be an awfully tall task 1063 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: for Bailey Zappy. If it's Mac Jones and he's healthy 1064 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: enough to do it, maybe I don't feel great about 1065 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: that either. Agree they got to find a way to 1066 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: keep Detroit in the low twenties not the mid thirties. 1067 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: It's just a really interesting game. I mean, like you know, 1068 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: it's just and on top of it, the Patriots were 1069 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: winning their shrowbacks, which just adds a whole other level 1070 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: of emotion to it for me. Can't lose this one, 1071 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: can't lose. But just what I mean, And after watching 1072 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 1: the Lions on on Hard Knocks, it's just their style 1073 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: of a team, like it's it's it's a really really 1074 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: crazy matchup that like, I just I think they need 1075 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: to keep the game under control because if it gets 1076 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: fast and loose and it's getting back and forth and 1077 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: mistakes and mistakes and mistakes on both sides, I don't 1078 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: think that's good for the Patriots. Stephen Carmel, New York. 1079 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: The game reminded me a lot of Dallas from last year. 1080 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: Had chances to win. Both gave up brutal third and 1081 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: longs and should have beaten the more talented team, but didn't. 1082 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: I digress two questions. What former Patriots defensive back does 1083 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: Jack Jones remind you of? Second question for Paul or 1084 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: Mike in the postgame show, What is the what happened 1085 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: from the Bad List and that you are right guy 1086 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: from the injured clips from well that You're all right 1087 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: guys from the Sandler movie. Yeah, yeah, that's my boy. 1088 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: What happened? I'm not sure what will happened? That it 1089 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: might have been from a mighty wind that one of 1090 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: the Christopher guest movies. Um god him blanking on his name, 1091 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: the famous actor did to have that with one of 1092 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: his bits. But sorry, what was the first question? Um? What? 1093 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: What defensive? Former defensive of somebody who's small and scrappy. 1094 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he feels like one of 1095 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: those terrants wheatly guys. I mean, you know, I don't know. 1096 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing at a guy who was a little 1097 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: bit small. But he is. Yeah, that's that's not that's 1098 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: not bad. But is around the ball a lot? I 1099 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I don't know about Ellis Hobbs a 1100 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe I was gonna say Hobbs maybe a 1101 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: little okay, yeah, okay, I don't really have any anyone 1102 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: that he reminds me of. It's very skinny he is. 1103 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: He's gonna need to put on some ball and he's 1104 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: gonna need to learn how to tackle because you can't 1105 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: just grab the ball in your attempt to tackle. He 1106 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: go up a lot of yards the other day doing that. 1107 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: Now without him, they're not in the game. You don't. 1108 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: You don't get that pick six. You're not even in 1109 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: that game. You know, you want to play the Belichick 1110 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: two plays thing, the pick six and the drop touchdown 1111 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: thirty one seventeen. Yeah, what about the touchdown that went 1112 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: off after the playhog expire? No, no, I only we're 1113 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: only allowed too We're only allowed too plays. Would you 1114 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: think of that? Fred? Did you happen to see the clipper? 1115 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't like in the building. I mean, I don't think that. 1116 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't think people in the press box realized which 1117 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: one touchdown came like three three to four seconds after 1118 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: the play clocks? Oh I know, yeah, yeah, Like, I 1119 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen one that egregious. That 1120 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: was a bad one. I'd say one more thing too, 1121 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: after watching the game. I'm not one to kill the rest, 1122 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: but this was just a terribly officiated game. How many 1123 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 1: times did they point the wrong direction for a penalt 1124 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: call called the wrong side? I mean, it's just some 1125 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: of the calls were missed, Some of the calls were 1126 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: taking the place. It was bad. Preach it, Broye. These 1127 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: are my people. God, I hate the officials, I thought. 1128 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: Although I thought the horse caller was a good call, 1129 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: by the rule, Yeah, by the rule. He didn't make 1130 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: initial contact with the name plate. I thought it was 1131 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: Tiki tack and didn't need to be called. Yeah, you 1132 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: know it was close for that, But I mean, I 1133 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: understand why they called it. I get what you're saying. Fred. 1134 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: I just like to me when you can let them play. 1135 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: I know paulse tired of the rest. 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It might have got a 1235 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: back of a second aff they did and quits throw 1236 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: by Rogers. The receiver had to extend to make the 1237 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: grab and Jack Joe the rookie ask him dog. Brian 1238 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: dropped back east Pruner he sat from the right and 1239 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Gary gets to the cornerback the drive ending sacked by 1240 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Rashaan Gary. Brian Alawyer has been taken to the blue 1241 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: injury tent for the Patriots to have a three nothing 1242 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: lead over Green Bay. Fanley and Sappy makes his NFL debut, 1243 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 1: replacing an injured Brian o'layer with two twenty five to 1244 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: go here at Lambeau Field in the first quarter with 1245 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots on top three nothing from his own eight 1246 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: yard line. With the early movement, it looked like Isaial 1247 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: went on the right side of the line for the 1248 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: Patriots support with a full star he better get it gone, 1249 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: watching in motion left right to give to him on 1250 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the fly seat to the fifteenth of the tent, all 1251 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: alone in the end zone. Cutched out Greebat and a 1252 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Lambo league into the front row. Dappy fires to the right, 1253 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: black off by little Georgian Humphrey with a step Army 1254 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 1: running to the far side and Stokes forces and wide 1255 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: of the battle ray. But it's nice to pick up 1256 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: of eight Hatley Daffy's first NFL completion. Patrons go to 1257 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: work with foreign motioning left to Life that gets always 1258 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: the three receiver for the life bad wife. The staff, 1259 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: the Daffy down hit by Gary for the rife and 1260 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback goes down and he's wrestling for the football. 1261 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: The second sack of the game by Rashaun Gary. He 1262 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: came in from the left side of the DFS. Isaiah 1263 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Way is a freaking terms dollar in a wrestling match 1264 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: for the football at the thirty yard line now thirty 1265 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: yarn for seven Monte Simon Dick Jones to the money 1266 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: to the ten Nick six in a league for the Patriots, 1267 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: yelling to the line of Rodgers, takes the step back 1268 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: to the pocket, rows down the middle for Tunet class 1269 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: the goal line with a catch that's down great bed 1270 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: steam and su behind Zappi, which turns in playfing Yes, 1271 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: cant and keep the was at the right partner wide 1272 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: open to the ten to the five to the adisode 1273 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Bailey Savvy. When this first touching down Pad and the 1274 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Patriots regain the lead, Harris hands on LEAs the single 1275 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: back and take the hand off darting let him heading 1276 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: back to the middle into the Zade touchdown Patriots hell 1277 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: Don to the right. He draws Jonathan Jones, Eric Jokes 1278 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: off the right side of rod would have White tackle 1279 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: the set back up the yards off. Hello, Bobby's in 1280 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: the back hill Rodger's leaves for he takes the staff 1281 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: and he throws it to the right back. Chapter Don 1282 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: makes the catch, touch down, free back Sappy with a 1283 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: plaything A deep dropped by Bailey dans Any Strutcher. Those kids, 1284 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he's dropped inside his body. The coverage was there and 1285 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,479 Speaker 1: the Packers. Good to the young quarterback with the sat 1286 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 1: by Jared Reid. Come then we're Sean Garry safter Ronald 1287 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: dropping back. He loves the throat deep down the right 1288 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: side for Dove has a step bunch downs. They say 1289 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: it's if you play their officials. Two officials converge. They eat, 1290 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: saying completely and play. He hits the ground. It came 1291 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: out of the s After reviewing hill, the receivers did 1292 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: not maintain control the ball in complete staff Wow, get over. 1293 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: Time for the Winford Green Band, the staff of the 1294 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: kick ar Barney playing that kick's good Green Band. Winson 1295 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty four. Hey Pats fans, I'm here to 1296 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: tell you all about NFL all Day. With NFL all Day, 1297 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: all your favorite Patriots highlights become digital video collectibles called moments. 1298 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Not only can you buy and sell them on a 1299 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: secure marketplace full of thousands of NFL fans. 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Yeah, Well, for all 1308 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: those people that are waiting for the Lazarre Path podcast 1309 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: to return us, it's coming maybe tomorrow, maybe the following Wednesday. 1310 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: But Wednesdays, Evan and Alex will be back with a 1311 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: spot to offer their thoughts on all things Patriots. So yeah, 1312 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for great name. Fred came up 1313 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: with it, Patriots Catch twenty two. Well, um, you know, 1314 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: people listening you this is the first people that have 1315 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: are hearing about it. Um, it's not public knowledge yet, 1316 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: but we're giving you some inside. So that'll be Wednesdays 1317 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: every Wednesday from two to three. Yeah, Alex Barth in 1318 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: our own Evan Lazar bringing back the band being back 1319 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: to bandy. I mean, it's kind of funny listening to 1320 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: them just go back and forth with each other. They 1321 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: have a unique relationship, so I think the people that 1322 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: have listened to them for a while. No, So I'll 1323 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: be good. It'll be good. I know. I'm sure Evan 1324 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: will be excited to uh and he'll still be on 1325 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: our show, you know. Yeah, I was saying, you know, 1326 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean to continue Wednesday Thursday, come in after practice, 1327 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: do some time with us, and then he'll continue through 1328 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 1: on Wednesday to his show and then on and then 1329 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Thursday he'll do his appearance on on Rook Show. So um, yeah, 1330 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: so'll be good. I'm excited adding to the Patriots podcast 1331 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: network family family of shows. Yea all right? Eight five 1332 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: five past five hundred Hotline web radio at Patriots dot Com. 1333 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: James writes in he says, simple question, did Bailey Zappy 1334 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: earn himself a chance to start if Mack is out? 1335 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I know Axel Hoyer has the experience, but is it 1336 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: worth finding out what Zappy could do with a game 1337 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: plan design around him in a week or practice. If 1338 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: Paul is right and Matt won't be with the team 1339 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: as the starter in five years is it worth seeing 1340 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: if Zappy has anything worth developing? I mean, I get 1341 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: why everybody wants it to be him. It's just the 1342 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: element of unknown and the potential that's I don't mean, 1343 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: do you why why would you want to? I mean, 1344 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: like Ichael, but I can say that I don't I'm 1345 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: not sure that mac Jones is the guy in the future, 1346 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: But why wouldn't you want that to be what it is? Oh? Yeah, 1347 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: well that you're already a year plus into that development 1348 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 1: and we want to move on to Bailey ZAPPI no, no, no, no, 1349 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I just I just mean, but this guy's not alone, 1350 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not making fun of him at all. I 1351 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people like that that want 1352 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: to see it. I don't know what you saw on Sunday. 1353 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: That's so exciting, right they handed the ball off a ton, 1354 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: They didn't throw up on him, so well question um, 1355 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, not to necessarily connect the two, but I mean, 1356 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Jacobe Brisette probably didn't see a lot out of him 1357 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: in camp right when he was a rookie. Do you 1358 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 1: think maybe just getting a chance. I haven't seen a 1359 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: lot out of him eight years into his career either, 1360 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 1: But somehow he's managed to stick in the NFL. I mean, 1361 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: he can't be a totally. I think Bailey Shappy will 1362 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: be an NFL player for a long time. I do, 1363 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: And that's my That's how I'm getting at I mean, 1364 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: do you think though, that getting a chance like this 1365 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: early in your career. And I'm not saying that this 1366 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: is what happened with Jacoby Brissett, but I assume that 1367 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: when he started those games in twenty sixteen, it was 1368 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: the same kind of thing of like, he can't he 1369 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: just got he doesn't know, but getting a chance or 1370 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of get your feet wet a 1371 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: little bit, to maybe get a little notoriety. I just 1372 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if that if those kind of things can 1373 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: kind of help you developed. I don't. I don't think 1374 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna overtake Mac. I haven't really seen anything to 1375 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: make me think that, you know, he has that potential, 1376 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's just interesting that he's getting 1377 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: this experience now and how it might pay off down 1378 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, I could pay off with a fifth 1379 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: round pick for the Patriots, right they trade him like somebody. 1380 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: But I would just ask again, I understand the mentality. 1381 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: But I would just ask what people really feel like 1382 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: they saw on Sunday. I mean they he played the 1383 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: balance of the game. He went into the game in 1384 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the first quarter and the game went over over time, 1385 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: so that's basically a full game. They netted seventy five 1386 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: yard yards passing when he was in the game, right, Like, 1387 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 1: what do you think they did? Yeah, they ran the ball, 1388 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,839 Speaker 1: they got to pick six, they held on against Rogers 1389 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 1: and had a chance at the end to win. The 1390 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: funny thing about it is like, I don't hear a 1391 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 1: lot of how can you even think about replacing Mac? 1392 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't hear That's that's I guess what my incredulousness 1393 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: comes from. Was I would look at it that I 1394 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: am not the biggest supporter of Mac Jones, as you 1395 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 1: guys know. I would look at it and say, how 1396 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: could you even think about replacing Matt Jones with Brian 1397 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Hoyer or Day's appy? Right? Right? I mean if it 1398 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: was like puzzles me the most. Yeah, if you took 1399 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 1: like Desmond Ritter or Kenny Pickett in the second round 1400 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 1: this year and Mac is out and now you get okay, 1401 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: now right, Jordan's love. Let's see Jordan Love. Let's see 1402 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: what this other guy who was kind of similarly touted 1403 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: in the draft. This is a guy who played at 1404 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Houston Baptist for three years and then went to Western Kentucky. Now, 1405 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe he'll develop into something more than that. He doesn't have, like, 1406 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have NFL traits. Would you agree, No, there's 1407 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: nothing about him that can overcome being six. He's small. Yeah, 1408 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the ball exceptionally well. He spins it 1409 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 1: pretty well, but he doesn't have a really strong arm. 1410 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I do think that when he is in rhythm, it 1411 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. I saw a lot of times this 1412 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: summer when it was not in rhythm and he kind 1413 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: of gets out of the pocket, trying to do too 1414 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: much at times, which I think they did a really 1415 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 1: good job of getting out of him. He took the 1416 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 1: sacks the other day instead of throwing it into Harm's way. 1417 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: That's where I think Joe Judge to Fred's point early 1418 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: Joe Judge, Matt Patricia Bill Belichick, I think they did 1419 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 1: a good job with him on the side and said, hey, 1420 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: if you don't give them the ball, we're gonna have 1421 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: a chance. So if you're in trouble just take the sack. 1422 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: If you don't think you can safely throw it away, 1423 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: take the sack. And he did. Yeah, I think I 1424 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: think he showed I agree with all your points. I 1425 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: just I think he has a little sum between the ears. 1426 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: I think he's you know, smart process as well, and 1427 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 1: obviously did with the coaches asked of him as Paul Justice. Now, 1428 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 1: I do think that there were some place to be 1429 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 1: made the other day that he didn't. I don't expect 1430 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: them to. I mean, the poor kid, Like this is 1431 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: why I would overlook anything negative from Bailey's Appey's game 1432 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday because I'm sorry, it's not fair. It wasn't fair, right. 1433 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: But if he's gonna get just think about that Thursday 1434 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: night game that Jacoby Brissette started against Houston, where the 1435 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Houston kick returners decided to just give us the ball 1436 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: like three times in the first half, handed us touchdowns. 1437 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 1: Brissette ran around the end for like twenty five yards 1438 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,599 Speaker 1: for one of those touchdowns. He really did nothing. Then 1439 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: they played the next week. You know, it was all 1440 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 1: his game plan right play in Buffalo. It's all Jacoby Brissette. 1441 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: What happened right? Shout out yep? Because they asked him 1442 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to play quarterback the second week as opposed to just 1443 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: stay out of the way the first week. Yep, let's 1444 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: go to the A Sticket hot line five five pats 1445 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: five hundred. We'll start with John and Duxbury. Hey John, 1446 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Good afternoon everybody. Hey John. Uh Just a FYI. The 1447 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: rebroadcasting the Pack is Pat Skame tonight at eight o'clock 1448 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL Network if you want to watch it again. 1449 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: But I think that was the worst game I've ever 1450 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,560 Speaker 1: seen Jonathan Jones play. He could have got beat, but 1451 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: he got beat for one touch down. They should have 1452 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: been two. And Dob dropped that ball in the end zone. 1453 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought he struggled the long one at 1454 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the start of the second half. I'll give him a 1455 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a pass because I thought he had 1456 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 1: pretty good coverage on that play. But they went to Lazard. Yeah, 1457 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: thirty two yard down the sideline, the perfect pass. Yeah, 1458 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: And I thought he had good coverage. I don't think 1459 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: he had good coverage in the touchdown. He had terrible 1460 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 1: coverage on the drop touchdown and he didn't you know, 1461 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: contrary to Tony Romo's belief, he didn't rip it away 1462 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: from him. Yeah, he I mean, he didn't even give 1463 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: me the sterling more nay, by the way, in fairness 1464 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: to Jacoby, bris said, I will add that he had 1465 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,560 Speaker 1: that bad thumb he did, you know that in that 1466 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo game. But still like point stance, you know what 1467 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah. And the other thing is, um, I 1468 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: listened to you, you and Mike on the post game, 1469 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 1: and maybe I tuned in late, so maybe I missed that. 1470 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: But when you were talking about players who played well, 1471 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 1: Dawn had a very good game. He had, Yeah, I tackled. 1472 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: He was on our list. Yep, he was. He was 1473 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: on the good list both. I think all three of 1474 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: us had him on the list. Yeah, that's rare that 1475 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 1: we all we all agree. The other thing, Paul, he 1476 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 1: did so on that interception, Jones's interception, he blew that 1477 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: guy out and gave him a flip path to the 1478 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: end zone. One of I think it was one of 1479 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: their wide receivers he took out of the play. Yeah, 1480 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: he played, he played well. He's played well so far. 1481 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 1: This is kind of like last year. He's got a 1482 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 1: burst four sacks and four games. He's fresh. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, 1483 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 1: all right, that's all I got boys all right. And 1484 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 1: I even think unlike last year, Like last year, I 1485 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: thought there were times like he would have a sack 1486 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't really notice him. This year, I think 1487 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: he's had a sack and he's had two or three 1488 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: other times where he's been forcing the ball out quickly, 1489 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: making a play here or there. Yeah, he's been, he thinks, 1490 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: very good. His closing burst to kind of stuck out 1491 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: to me in a way that it didn't last year 1492 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: of just that you know, that extra last minute, he's 1493 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: getting close, he's he looks quick and the shape to me, 1494 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 1: Christians in La, what's up? Christians turned down the internet? Yeah, 1495 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I want to I know he wasn't 1496 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: giving credits to Bailey and the team for really sort 1497 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: of coalescing around him. I want to talk about some 1498 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: of the stuff to happen at the end of the 1499 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: game that I thought was a little bit off. We 1500 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 1: are usually so good with situational football, and yet to me, 1501 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: the three big his plays in the game how to 1502 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 1: do with situational football. First, the two defenses played at 1503 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: the end with Aaron Rodgers on the forty with only 1504 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 1: meeting twenty yards to go to kick a field goal 1505 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 1: to win the game. We had to play a play 1506 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty yards off. Again, I agree that was very curious 1507 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 1: situational football, right, that situational awareness. And then also with 1508 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy when we were around the forty or so, 1509 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: the running plays and then the kind of I thought 1510 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,639 Speaker 1: we should have done some sort of rollout with Bailey 1511 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 1: and just let him try to lose use his legs 1512 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 1: on the cross pat. If it's not there, you throw 1513 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 1: it away, you run it out. Oh, you take the 1514 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: five yards, ten yards, and you give the first down. 1515 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to see you guys take them 1516 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 1: what you think we did situationally wrong at the end 1517 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: of the game. I really agree with your point of 1518 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: my question. Um, the off coverage in overtime, Mike, we 1519 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 1: both of us looked at each other and I was like, 1520 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Um? And I don't know if 1521 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: that was a situation where they came out in a 1522 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: formation that Aaron Rodgers recognized immediately and said we're gonna 1523 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,680 Speaker 1: check out of that and I'm just gonna throw it 1524 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: up to him and take the easy five yards because they, 1525 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Christian is overselling it. They were on the forty. 1526 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: They only needed five yards for a field goal, and 1527 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 1: they ended up doing it two plays in a row 1528 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: to getting comfortable chip shot range. They actually ran that 1529 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,559 Speaker 1: play twice to get one first down. Then I think 1530 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: they ran it three times, got another first down, and 1531 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: then they kneeled on the ball and kicked the field 1532 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: goal at you know, like now you got very little 1533 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 1: chance of him missing a field goal. I thought that 1534 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: was that was interesting. I didn't know if that was 1535 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Jack Jones playing off or if he's being instructed to 1536 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: play off, which is my guests, because knowing Jack Jones, 1537 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: he's looking to make a play. Yeah. Yeah, So I 1538 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,799 Speaker 1: thought that was strange. The Mike and I actually debated 1539 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: this a little bit on Sunday. I think we really agree, 1540 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: more so when you know, I have to watch the 1541 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: trash talk segment on on the TV show this week 1542 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 1: where we seem like we argue about But I thought 1543 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 1: there was some plays maybe that they could have taken 1544 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: a shot, maybe on first or second down. And I 1545 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: think that's what's missing for me, Like I think overall, 1546 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that the offense has been 1547 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 1: you know, I think the first couple of weeks it 1548 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: was so much like Oh, they don't even know what 1549 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 1: they're doing. Guys are running the same route like all that. 1550 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,560 Speaker 1: That stuff's kind of fallen by the wayside. For me. 1551 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 1: I just it's the specific moments is And I think 1552 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 1: that's what made Josh great was that he often knew 1553 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the right time to kind of push the button to 1554 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: change things up or maybe go in a different direction. 1555 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think it's totally crazy the 1556 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: development process that they've shown of all, right, they can 1557 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: execute an offense, but you know, do they have the 1558 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 1: right little plays at the right little time to push 1559 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that they need to work on. 1560 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 1: When hey, we need something here, we need something right here. 1561 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: We got to spring something on them, you know, find 1562 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 1: them more of those kinds. Right. We didn't get to 1563 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: talk to you in all serious about about this, Like 1564 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: what were your feelings on that overtime possession? So they 1565 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 1: take over on the forty nine, They take over run 1566 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: on the Patriots forty nine. They need a down probably 1567 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: fifteen yards to get into legitimate nick Folk territory, Like, 1568 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on what they did? I have 1569 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: to be honest, I can't remember thinking, you know, for 1570 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 1: really an instant. Oh, the play calling's bad here. I'm 1571 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 1: not just talking about the approach and John. I just 1572 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: think they know what they could do, and I think 1573 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 1: they were playing conservative, but I don't think they felt 1574 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 1: they had a choice. And I couldn't really disagree, you know. Okay, 1575 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: so if you're going to be conservative, I think that 1576 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: they were conservative backwards. Like if you wanted to just 1577 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 1: run it, like I had said to Hardy before the series, 1578 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: just run it three times, They're not going to stop 1579 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: you from getting a first down, and they didn't. Yeah, 1580 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 1: they threw it, And I think if you were going 1581 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 1: to throw it, but maybe in that situation they figured 1582 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: they would because they were loading up so much. Yeah. 1583 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 1: I just think on third and five, now you gotta throw, yeah, 1584 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, then the defense is more prepared for it. 1585 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: And that was the one time that I thought Bailey 1586 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Bailey zappy, not Jake Bailey. It really bugs me. Um, 1587 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: the first name thing bugs man. I don't know if 1588 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: you know that. Fred. Yeah, Um. I thought that was 1589 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,719 Speaker 1: one of the only times that he really looked flustered 1590 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 1: on that play. I thought he had hun right off 1591 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the right off the break and he didn't he like 1592 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 1: he escaped. I thought a reasonably clean pocket kind of 1593 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: got disoriented and threw it into harm's way. I mean 1594 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 1: that was that was a dangerous throw um. I thought 1595 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: first or second down was a time to to throw, 1596 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 1: like you load up, you got the actually got Marcus 1597 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Cannon out there, eligible hard play action, quick little toss 1598 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 1: to Stevenson in the flat, or maybe Hunter Henry, you know, 1599 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,280 Speaker 1: get a you know, a cheap eight yards and then 1600 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 1: you you just pound away or on third on third 1601 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: and five, so they stopped the second down run for nothing. 1602 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: Can you do it again? Because we're gonna do it 1603 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 1: two more times and I don't think you can stop me. 1604 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Now on fourth and five, I would have punted. I 1605 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 1: think he made the right moved down. I wonder on 1606 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: that on that third down play with Hunter Henry, that's 1607 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,679 Speaker 1: where the size kind of concerns me. With those quick 1608 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 1: in cuts. When you've got the frontier line right there, 1609 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,240 Speaker 1: can he see over those guys in and find that whole? 1610 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 1: And we should point out Pressian Paul Perillo coming through 1611 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 1: for those of us listening. Earlier in the show, Paul 1612 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: mentioned Garrett Gilbert as a potential in fairness, I mentioned 1613 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 1: Jake Dolgalla first. So but alas I covered, I played 1614 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Coverall reports have the Patriots signing Garrett Gilbert to the 1615 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 1: practice squad. San re reading, I just thought, I just thought, 1616 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 1: in terms of someone who's been here recently, Danny at 1617 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Ling would fall into that category, except for I don't 1618 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 1: think Danny Atling's a quarterback. Yeah, right, so I wanted 1619 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 1: a guy who actually, you know, a quarterback, who actually plays, 1620 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, quarterback. Yeah, so maybe, I mean it might 1621 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 1: be as probably a sign that that at least Hoyer 1622 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 1: is not going to be ready to go immediately, right 1623 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: very And I do wonder if because of that, see 1624 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 1: that no look Freddy, Yeah, if because of that, if 1625 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 1: you get some press on mac Jones, if he feels 1626 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 1: the pressure, not the pressure from the team, but he 1627 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: feels it internally and rushes back, I would that would 1628 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,760 Speaker 1: concern me. I think he has a chance to play 1629 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 1: because of the situation. If Brian Horror was healthy, I 1630 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: don't think there's any chance Mac Jones would play some day. 1631 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I think you're right, Paul, though, I mean, this is 1632 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point now where I think my 1633 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: biggest worry is is Mac gonna try to play when 1634 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: he shouldn't try to play and hurt the team and 1635 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 1: hurt himself, like I think he's going to be a 1636 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 1: sitting duck. Yeah, it's back to the phones. Brian's in Florida. 1637 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 1: What's up, Brian, Brian, Hey guys. Hey, Yes, I'm a 1638 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller here in Florida. Thank you, 1639 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,759 Speaker 1: and Paul to mention kind of what you were saying. 1640 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I thought to play calling at the overtime when they 1641 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 1: had the first and five, I thought they really should 1642 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 1: have thrown it to the flat on that second and 1643 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 1: five and got one on one with the back to 1644 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 1: get a couple of yards because you knew they were 1645 01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,639 Speaker 1: gonna We knew we're gonna run it at that point. 1646 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: We're going to run it. And I just wanted to 1647 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,600 Speaker 1: ask another thing, did Stevenson ever get to run it? 1648 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 1: I noticed they went with Harrison overtime, but I thought 1649 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Stevenson was a better back with the defense being up 1650 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 1: on the line. And I had one other thing with 1651 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I think we're reaching out looking for Zappie 1652 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: because we're not quite seeing what we want to see 1653 01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,400 Speaker 1: out of Mac. We're not comfortable with Mac and we're 1654 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 1: looking for the the next golden star. And that's why 1655 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: I think that we're not all saying, hey, we want 1656 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Mac back as soon as possible, I'll shut up and 1657 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 1: move on the thanks guy. It was Harris on the 1658 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 1: Two Runs. Stevenson, No, Stevenson, m Yeah, I mean I hear, 1659 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: and I thought Mike really articulated it. Well, you know 1660 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 1: sometimes like the new thing, that's the unknown thing. Well 1661 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: maybe he's actually a superstar. I just don't know how 1662 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 1: you can look at it and watch what he did 1663 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday and say, yeah, that's what we're missing. Like 1664 01:22:54,520 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones against Baltimore made more plays in that game 1665 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,640 Speaker 1: then I think he made in any game before that. Like, 1666 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: if you were, like, if you were at all a 1667 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 1: believer in Mac Jones, the Ravens game had to give 1668 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 1: you some hope. Yeah, yeah, I know he made mistakes. 1669 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: I know, you know, he threw interceptions. And that's why 1670 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I said, like, it's hard to say, like the best 1671 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 1: game you ever played is a game they had no 1672 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: touchdowns and three picks. It wasn't the best game you 1673 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 1: ever played, but there were times in that game where 1674 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: he's never looked better. Yeah, it's easy to come out 1675 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 1: of that game, and hen he not got hurt to say, 1676 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: just don't tell picks and I play it that way. 1677 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Don't tell picks. I think if they just you know, 1678 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I've said this before. He's gonna make mistakes. Let him 1679 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: make the mistakes. He'll get better. He'll, you know, if 1680 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 1: if what we're told about him is true, that his 1681 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, biggest asset is between the ears. He will 1682 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: learn from those mistakes. But you gotta let him make 1683 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 1: it because that's how you work. That's how it works 1684 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's through experience. You gotta you gotta 1685 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 1: see it for yourself and experience it for yourself. You 1686 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 1: can watch film all day, but until you get out 1687 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 1: there with that speed um you just you can't improve 1688 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: until you actually do it. Yeah, Paul, I saw you. 1689 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: I saw you clapping back a little bit at Tommy 1690 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Curran on the Brady two thousand and two things. Do 1691 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 1: you think there's there's any truth to that though? Of Yes, 1692 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 1: second year feeling it out, being aggressive good, That's what 1693 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Fred is talking about. Sometimes you have to just let 1694 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: the guy try to make plays and figure out what 1695 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,560 Speaker 1: doesn't work right, what can I what can and what 1696 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,640 Speaker 1: I clapped back about is he makes it sound like 1697 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: he was mistake prone that year. But the difference is 1698 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones just been mistake prone without the plays. Tom 1699 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: Brady was a mistake prone with more, more big plays 1700 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: than he had made the previous year. Do you know 1701 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I agree 1702 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: with Fred's mentality, Like this is why I like do 1703 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 1: you remember a long, long time ago, Tom Jackson made 1704 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: an idiotic comment on ESPN about Brett Farve, saying one 1705 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 1: thing I've always admired, I'm admired about Brett Farve, and 1706 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but this is pretty close. One thing I've 1707 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 1: always admired about Brett Farve is he's never afraid to 1708 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,719 Speaker 1: throw an interception. And of course, you know the cackling 1709 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 1: hyenas that have a spreadsheet here that says interceptions bad, 1710 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: We can't throw interceptions. Don't take into consideration how many 1711 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 1: times a guy trying to force one in there and 1712 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: getting picked off is outweighed by the fifteen times that 1713 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 1: he tried to force one in there and made a 1714 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 1: huge play that ultimately led to a lot of points 1715 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: being scored for your team. That's what Tom Jackson meant 1716 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 1: he's not going to be swayed out of his mentality 1717 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,400 Speaker 1: because he makes a mistake or two, because he knows 1718 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 1: he's good enough that more often than not, he's going 1719 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,520 Speaker 1: to make the play. Now, some guys have that mentality 1720 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 1: and they make more mistakes than plays. Brett Favre wasn't 1721 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 1: one of those guys. He made more plays than mistakes, 1722 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,759 Speaker 1: and Brady learned. I think Tom Karrn is right. Brady 1723 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 1: learned in two thousand and two the plays that he 1724 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: couldn't make. Yeah, but he laid a lot more than 1725 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,439 Speaker 1: he didn't, telling Aaron Judge, don't swing for the fences 1726 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 1: because you know you strike out. You know I'll take 1727 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 1: the strikeouts. Sorry, I gotta sneast bruin. Let's go to 1728 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 1: Mark and Florida. What's up Mark? Hey, guys, how are 1729 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 1: you doing? Hey? Mark? You're he's certainly around on the right, 1730 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 1: on the wall with everything. And what we're missing is 1731 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 1: someone great. Right now we have no one great. I 1732 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 1: was hoping that, you know, Bill could be great this 1733 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: year for us, but he's strung out too far, too 1734 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully Zachy gets it, wins one game, motivates mac 1735 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 1: let MACI man and maybe become great and helpless because 1736 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: it all someone great. You know, I'm going to go 1737 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,679 Speaker 1: much further than we are. Yeah, I mean you hate 1738 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 1: to say it, but like who is great on the Patriots? 1739 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, And like you can't honestly say anyone is 1740 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,120 Speaker 1: an all pro caliber type player? No, you know, nope, no, 1741 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 1: And I mean, and you know, and I wonder, you know, 1742 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 1: we want bar More to be great, you know, but 1743 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 1: he's not there yet, not there yet. Coach Range isn't 1744 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 1: there yet, you know what Stevenson I think, you know, 1745 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 1: but he's a running back and it's the NFL, and 1746 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 1: you know you have to be uh. Plus he's not 1747 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not bad. Yeah, it's such a weird 1748 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 1: he's not McCaffrey. It's such a weird street spot with 1749 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,840 Speaker 1: those that you're so good that you're the whole offense, 1750 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,800 Speaker 1: Like you got to live in that place where you're 1751 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 1: like you're not too good where you're the whole offense. 1752 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,959 Speaker 1: But he's more explosive than Harris, but he's not explosive 1753 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 1: like those guys. You know. Now, Thornton's great, but he 1754 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to show it yet. You all seriousness 1755 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 1: about Thornton. I'd be curious to see if he practices 1756 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: this week. He's back out there tomorrow. Neil and New Brunswick, 1757 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: with all due respect to moral victories, were one in 1758 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: three in last place in our division. My question is 1759 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 1: for fair statement right there, which version Bill actually calls 1760 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 1: the shots, because I think it would be really good 1761 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 1: if coach Bill would just fire GM Bill and hire 1762 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 1: an actual GM Sunday prove coach Bill is still the best. 1763 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the players to make it work. 1764 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: We're paying two tight ends a total cap hit of 1765 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: twenty three million, and I don't think they have ten 1766 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,840 Speaker 1: total catches in four games. What Deebo Samuel did last 1767 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 1: night caught a four yard pass and then took it 1768 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: fifty yards for a touchdown. No one on our team 1769 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: can do that. Until we have that, we're stuck in 1770 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 1: the bottom half of the league. I mean, I don't 1771 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: totally disagree. I mean, you know it's simplifying it, but 1772 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,559 Speaker 1: I mean you're right. I mean it's just I mean, 1773 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 1: do we at all go with anything that we've seen 1774 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 1: the last two games where they have at least made 1775 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: a couple of players down the field, especially the Baltimore game. 1776 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of gnoring this game. Like you 1777 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: can sit there and say you don't have anybody to 1778 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 1: make a play when you know you have your third 1779 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,599 Speaker 1: string quarterback in the field, Like it's hard to have that. Yeah, 1780 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that there is a good 1781 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 1: team in there, and I think you've seen it for 1782 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, small periods of time that they have been 1783 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 1: able to execute on both sides of the ball and 1784 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 1: look pretty good. But I mean, I think it just 1785 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: goes back to training camp where I think the phrase 1786 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 1: it kept just is not consistent. They'd have a play here, 1787 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,640 Speaker 1: play there, they'd have a bad play, and that's kind 1788 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 1: of carried over through the first four weeks of this. 1789 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that one thing that's kind of like coming 1790 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 1: out to me like last year and this year, is 1791 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 1: there were a lot of teams over the last twenty 1792 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,560 Speaker 1: years that I sort of looked at as kind of 1793 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,599 Speaker 1: like that they're no good. You know, they went seven 1794 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: and nine, you know, Minnesota Vikings, Yeah they're no good. 1795 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,599 Speaker 1: But what I'm kind of realizing is some of those 1796 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,840 Speaker 1: teams that you know, some weeks they win, some weeks 1797 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 1: they lose, you know, they they fall short, you know 1798 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 1: against Green Bay. You know, like in the Vikings case, 1799 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,280 Speaker 1: they have periods of time where they look pretty good, 1800 01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,599 Speaker 1: they played pretty well. They have talent, they have ability, 1801 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,559 Speaker 1: but they don't have enough ability to consistently stack up 1802 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,800 Speaker 1: when it counts against good teams. And that's why I 1803 01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,120 Speaker 1: look at the Patriots the last two years, Like I 1804 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: agree with Mike, I think there have been times with me, 1805 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,560 Speaker 1: all right, I see what they're doing, and I'll say this, 1806 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 1: the preparation, the first drive of every game. Yeah, it's 1807 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 1: been really good. So I know they can still put 1808 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 1: it together. I know Building still knows what he's doing 1809 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 1: because they come out and they put it drive together, 1810 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 1: they go right down the field. They're effective, but they 1811 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:12,919 Speaker 1: can't hang. They can't stay that way. Um, and especially 1812 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I think when the when the competition is tough, I 1813 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: look at them and they make mistakes, right, well, but 1814 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,840 Speaker 1: that's why you make mistakes, because the competition is tough. Yeah. Uh, 1815 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 1: Peter says. I think it's fair to say twenty twenty 1816 01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 1: two what a draft. Green Bay Packers were there for 1817 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,080 Speaker 1: the taking and New England Patriots are about to go 1818 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: five and three in a blink of an eye. Yeah, 1819 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what everybody expects. I don't. I mean, 1820 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 1: I hope I heard somebody say they're gonna go form 1821 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 1: one in their next five games. It's lined up that way. 1822 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do that, this is the stretch of 1823 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 1: the schedule where you could. But I mean, the quarterback 1824 01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,560 Speaker 1: issues a spot here. It was healthy and everything it 1825 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,639 Speaker 1: kind of unfolded the same. I might kind of agree 1826 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: with that, but with the uncertainty a quarterback right now, 1827 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea what it's gonna look like this 1828 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,680 Speaker 1: weekend and how you're you know, gonna match scores with 1829 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,840 Speaker 1: the Lions and we're trying to cobble some things together here, guys. Yeah, 1830 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: you just line up and run the ball against Detroit. 1831 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,680 Speaker 1: You should move the ball, you should show it in 1832 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 1: the game, and you should be able to win it. 1833 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. You really should be able to 1834 01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 1: beat these teams. Now, I don't know what the Colts 1835 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 1: are exactly. To me, that's the ultimate jackal and hide team. 1836 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw it on display Sunday. They looked 1837 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,400 Speaker 1: awful in the first half, then they blew doors off 1838 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,120 Speaker 1: in the second half and fell short because Jonathan Taylor 1839 01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 1: had an unfortunate fumble on a short yardage play. But 1840 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: that's not going to be an easy game. The other 1841 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 1: ones you should win. You should beat Chicago at home, 1842 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 1: you should beat Detroit at home, and I'm sorry, you 1843 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 1: should beat the Jacoby Brissette led Cleveland Browns. Hart Preet 1844 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 1: writes in can we talk about the third down and 1845 01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 1: something pops up and gets in the way? Ah fat fingers, no, 1846 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 1: hold on hold? Can we talk about what hobart? Can 1847 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 1: we talk about the third down? That Nellie dropped the 1848 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 1: third down pass. At first, the announcer said he threw 1849 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 1: it too low, but once they showed the replay, you 1850 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 1: could see it hit Nelly right in the chest. I 1851 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 1: think the reasoning behind this is because Nelson is used 1852 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,160 Speaker 1: to mac Jones and used to his peace shooter. Then 1853 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Zappy was thrown in and had to just for his cannon. 1854 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 1: You're out of your mind. Yeah, you're out of your mind. 1855 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 1: But that was a killer drop. That was one of 1856 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 1: the best drop. It was one of the better throws 1857 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Zappy made. It was the best throw he made. It 1858 01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 1: was a second and twelve play and it would have 1859 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 1: set up third and short. Um. But um, if you 1860 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 1: think that Bailey Zappy's arm strength is noticeably stronger than 1861 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is then you're not watching football because neither 1862 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,760 Speaker 1: one of those guys has a major league arm Tom 1863 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: and Northwest New Jersey. It was my initial feeling that 1864 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Zappy should start when Mac went down, but Paul's insistence 1865 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 1: it was a stupid idea made me abandon it and 1866 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: feel foolish for thinking it. Uh, it's not like we 1867 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 1: saw and then and then you watch Brian Hoyer go 1868 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 1: out march right down the field, going five or six, 1869 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,599 Speaker 1: and somehow that made you think that you were right after. Oh, 1870 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: he's saying he was wrong? Is he yeah? Doesn't sound different. No, 1871 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: he says he realized it was a stupid idea, but 1872 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,600 Speaker 1: that's laced with scat and he felt foolish for thinking it. 1873 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 1: I think he's that's laced with sara. I don't think so. 1874 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 1: I think I think he's saying you put him in 1875 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,680 Speaker 1: his place. I think it's true. It's not like we 1876 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: saw O seven Tom Brady or even seventy nine Steve Grogan, 1877 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: but I think we saw enough to be excited to 1878 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 1: see what comes out of the QB position during Mac's 1879 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,960 Speaker 1: injury I'm excited to see what this kid can do. 1880 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I don't wish injury on Hoyer, but I 1881 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: think allowing Zappy to start should be a no brainer 1882 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,599 Speaker 1: until Mac is back. And please, Fred's okay, So now 1883 01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,160 Speaker 1: do you do you now agree that it was laced 1884 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,519 Speaker 1: with sarcast The guy who handed off one hundred and 1885 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,960 Speaker 1: ten times was more impressive than the guy that threw 1886 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:09,719 Speaker 1: the ball five for six in leading a scoring drive. Yeah, please, Fred, 1887 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 1: stop calling the Jets New Jersey. It's insulting to the 1888 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 1: state I call home. Love the show, except when you 1889 01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,560 Speaker 1: bag on New Jersey. I used to live there. I 1890 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,160 Speaker 1: can bag on it. I mean it is where they are. 1891 01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean I mean they practice and play in New Jersey. Right, 1892 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 1: two and two? Yeah, here's where I'm gonna play. Fred's 1893 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,600 Speaker 1: side of the street. Yeah, this is where. This is 1894 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 1: the beauty of me. I can argue anything. So those 1895 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:44,599 Speaker 1: five games, right, it's Detroit, Chicago. No, it's Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, Jets, Indians. Okay, 1896 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,640 Speaker 1: three of those teams have a better record than you 1897 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,719 Speaker 1: right now, yea, the only team that wait a minute, 1898 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,640 Speaker 1: Chicago's two and two, four of them, two and four 1899 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 1: of them have a better record than the only team 1900 01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:02,799 Speaker 1: that has the same record is Detroit. So we're penciling 1901 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,800 Speaker 1: in five and oh against teams that have better records 1902 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:09,759 Speaker 1: than you. Now, that's people, it's not it's not twenty fourteen, 1903 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen with no idea who's playing quarterback. It's twenty 1904 01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 1: twenty two. It's a whole You have to rejigger everything, 1905 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, take the eraser and I just look at 1906 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 1: like I look at the defense against you know, you know, 1907 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,960 Speaker 1: decent not great offenses, especially this week, it's a bad offense. 1908 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay is averaging less than sixteen points a game 1909 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 1: coming into the game, and they've been able to move 1910 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: the ball at will against you like Detroit is high 1911 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 1: powered at least on paper. And we're just happy appy. 1912 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:47,760 Speaker 1: I think they should win the game. I don't think 1913 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,479 Speaker 1: there's any excuse to lose the game. Russell writes in 1914 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,200 Speaker 1: with what looks like changes being made to concussion protocols 1915 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 1: and players being let back in or out or held 1916 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 1: out of a game after exiting due to a head 1917 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 1: related injury, do you think there will be more time 1918 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 1: spent on backup quarterbacks being more ready to play. Also, 1919 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume a quarterback gets signed to the 1920 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 1: practice squad had already happened and elevated on game day. 1921 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,360 Speaker 1: But if Mac is seventy five eight percent more healthy 1922 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,439 Speaker 1: than last week, does he serve as the emergency backup 1923 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,640 Speaker 1: until fully healthy? I just, I mean it's such a 1924 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,320 Speaker 1: fine line of like how healthy is always healthy enough 1925 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,639 Speaker 1: to go, especially with an ankle. I man, Paul, you've 1926 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 1: said out a bunch of times already of if he's 1927 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,240 Speaker 1: going to go out there and give it a go, 1928 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 1: do you feel great about him? Not, you know, getting 1929 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 1: rolled up on having a move in the pocket. I 1930 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 1: based on what I saw Mac Jones three days ago 1931 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,000 Speaker 1: standing still, just I just don't worry about it. I 1932 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,879 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna sound really hypocritical because I've been somewhat, 1933 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, lukewarm on Mac Jones. I've said many times 1934 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,360 Speaker 1: I do not think he stinks. I think he's good. 1935 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. But I also don't want 1936 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: to risk like losing him for a longer period of time. 1937 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,639 Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily saying career threatening or anything dramatic, 1938 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 1: but I do worry about a guy. What if what 1939 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,599 Speaker 1: if he's like standing in the pocket and he says, 1940 01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: this is probably the time for me to get out 1941 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,720 Speaker 1: of here right now, but I know I can't. So 1942 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,599 Speaker 1: I'm going to stand in a half a second longer 1943 01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,519 Speaker 1: and get this out and bang he gets his light 1944 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 1: switch lowered. Then something bad happens. I'm not necessarily saying 1945 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,200 Speaker 1: something happens to his ankle. To further it, I'm saying 1946 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 1: he takes a hit that he wouldn't have normally taken. 1947 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and even normally he's getting get hit him, 1948 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 1: like even normally he's getting fit pretty hard. And like 1949 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 1: I said, with John ou Smith not available, maybe does 1950 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 1: that mean you can't just make the switch to Marcus Cannon. 1951 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, because when it struggled, and I just 1952 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,280 Speaker 1: think that there's some risk involved if you want to 1953 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,360 Speaker 1: turn it over to if you want to turn it 1954 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:56,720 Speaker 1: over to Mac Jones and just you know, hold him 1955 01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,040 Speaker 1: out and just say we know you're not one hundred 1956 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,519 Speaker 1: percent go out there like it. There's a lot of 1957 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 1: risk in there's a lot of risk in there, especially 1958 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 1: if he's your long term guy. I think I had 1959 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:05,760 Speaker 1: a seizure in the middle of that sence I kind 1960 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,559 Speaker 1: of forgot what I was even talking about. In the middle. 1961 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I'm back now, that's all right. 1962 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm used to it now, Pa I followed him. I speak, 1963 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 1: I speak. I don't know, Fred, I think, uh oh. 1964 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I thought he got a call from Fred Leaves and 1965 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 1: we don't know what to say. I thought he got 1966 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 1: a call from Big Cheddar. We just stand here and stay. 1967 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 1: That's usually the only the only way you ever see 1968 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 1: him leave the show in the middle is Big Cheddar. Yeah, 1969 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 1: someone with the last name beginning with K calls and 1970 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,679 Speaker 1: he has to go. But evidently it was just nature 1971 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:39,320 Speaker 1: and he's back. Godfred, are we doing. We're just sort 1972 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,720 Speaker 1: of reiterating mac feters of having Mac Jones play, which 1973 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 1: neither one of us rules out, by the way, Yeah, 1974 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't, but like against his like against my better 1975 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 1: judgment of letting him play. I mean, I didn't think 1976 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 1: I knew one thousand percent he wasn't playing last week, 1977 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 1: But beyond that, I don't know. Yeah, I don't, I really, 1978 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think now, I think it's a fair 1979 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,760 Speaker 1: guest to say the insistence was on his part that 1980 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 1: he could get out there sooner than that's kind of 1981 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,800 Speaker 1: I told you. I had that epiphany late last week. 1982 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 1: That's what it seems like. Yeah, he wants to get 1983 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: out there, which you know, good for him, you know, 1984 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,320 Speaker 1: but now the team, now, the team has to step 1985 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,679 Speaker 1: in and protect him. Right right, Um, phones are stacking 1986 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,160 Speaker 1: up here. Let's go to Eddie in Florida, our third 1987 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Floridian in a row. What's up, Eddie? Eddie? Not much? Hey, 1988 01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: so listen, I got too Hey. Can you hear me? Yeah? 1989 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Perfectly? Okay? Great? So I got 1990 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,719 Speaker 1: two points and then I got to follow up trivia 1991 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:41,360 Speaker 1: question football love. First point was second in five at 1992 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:46,840 Speaker 1: midfield in overtime, just two obvious play action pass. I 1993 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:52,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't get that. I mean, anyways, second point. Um, 1994 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,560 Speaker 1: just as easily as we could beat any of the 1995 01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,439 Speaker 1: following teams coming up, we could lose to any of 1996 01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 1: the following teams coming up. We have to play near 1997 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:04,600 Speaker 1: perfect foot wall, mistake free, well execution, high level. I 1998 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 1: don't think you point, but yeah, I mean I agree 1999 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you. Premise. I think they. 2000 01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 1: I think Fred is right. You can't just automatically say, 2001 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,880 Speaker 1: and I don't automatically say that they're gonna win all 2002 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: these games. I think they will win at least four 2003 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,439 Speaker 1: of them. But I don't automatically say there's no chance 2004 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:24,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna lose. I boyd, things have changed 2005 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,240 Speaker 1: this show, huh, Paul being more optimistic, Pau, I know, 2006 01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna wait for these games, I think, 2007 01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 1: but I think you're right. I don't think you can 2008 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,240 Speaker 1: pencil in Detroit is a win, Fred. The only one 2009 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: eye pencil in is a win is Chicago. They will 2010 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,920 Speaker 1: not lose to a guy who they will not let pass. Yeah, 2011 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 1: I agree they won't lose that game, but I think 2012 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 1: they can lose any of the other four. Yeah, I 2013 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,479 Speaker 1: mean the Jets. It's a Harry. I mean, but I 2014 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 1: don't think they will. Like, just because I don't think 2015 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna win, I don't think they're gonna lose, doesn't 2016 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,800 Speaker 1: mean that they will. I guarantee you that Jet game 2017 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,200 Speaker 1: is the dog match, A dog fight guaranty almost always are, 2018 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,519 Speaker 1: you know when when they play the Jets the Jet Now, 2019 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,880 Speaker 1: the scores have been out of control, but the games haven't, 2020 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, Like last year that game was more than 2021 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 1: competitive and Zeke Wilson just kept throwing picked after picked 2022 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,800 Speaker 1: right and eventually we pulled away, right, Yeah, that game 2023 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 1: and then we blew him out in Foxborough. We always 2024 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,040 Speaker 1: kill him here. Yeah, there's a lot of we talk there. 2025 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:25,559 Speaker 1: We first names. Eddie's got a trivia question for you, Paul. Well, 2026 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 1: it's a follow up trivia question based on the sixth 2027 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:33,400 Speaker 1: offensive lineman from the mid seventies. We rattled off. You 2028 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,160 Speaker 1: rattled off the names pretty damn easily, But can you 2029 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 1: do the numbers as well? So we're talking about the 2030 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 1: offensive line in the seventies. So John Hannah seventy three, 2031 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,160 Speaker 1: is that what you mean? Yeah, the one that set 2032 01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:51,479 Speaker 1: the record? Yeah, okay, So John Hannah was number seventy three, 2033 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 1: is that what you mean? Pete Rock was fifty eight, 2034 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,639 Speaker 1: Bill and Kindi sixty seven, Sam Adams was sixty one. 2035 01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:04,640 Speaker 1: Shelby Jordan was seventy four. Wow, right, you thought you 2036 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 1: had him right. Leon Gray was seventy. Wow. The only 2037 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 1: one I didn't get was Bill Ankitis. Great job. I 2038 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say that that's the sixth offensive linement that 2039 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 1: played regularly because Lankitis and Brock used to Altnay, that's right, Jocolitis. 2040 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,720 Speaker 1: Well that's what I was a kid. Then that's like, 2041 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 1: that's my wheelhouse. I'll never know anything like I do. 2042 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:32,240 Speaker 1: Like you know, I was ten roster back. Good stuff, 2043 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,200 Speaker 1: all right, guys, have a great all right, thanks Eddie. 2044 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:39,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Zamir in Maine. What's up, Zamir? Yeah, hey, guys, 2045 01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 1: that were you good? Good? I just had a question 2046 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,080 Speaker 1: about UM. I think something that Paul said needed last week. UM. 2047 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,639 Speaker 1: He had mentioned that the uh, the packing yards are down, 2048 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,240 Speaker 1: UM over the course of the year. Is that? Is 2049 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,640 Speaker 1: that right? Yeah? They were heading into last week. I 2050 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,160 Speaker 1: don't know where they stand now. I know there was 2051 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 1: some big performances over the weekend, but heading into last week, 2052 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 1: the passing numbers were down. Got you? And I had 2053 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,600 Speaker 1: the silly question. I don't know it make sense or not, 2054 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:11,439 Speaker 1: but are the penalty yards? No? Penalties? Are penalties are down? 2055 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:17,559 Speaker 1: I believe? Got Yeah. I think if you don't get 2056 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: the forty yard bomb, but you have a forty yard 2057 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,439 Speaker 1: passinger fearing, then yeah, no, it's a that's a fair point. Yeah, 2058 01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 1: that wouldn't count in passing yards. That's a fair point. 2059 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,720 Speaker 1: But no, I don't think penalties are up. I think 2060 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,640 Speaker 1: that the the premise that a lot of people are 2061 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,120 Speaker 1: going with and I don't know if if this is 2062 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,519 Speaker 1: valid or not, but there's been a u sort of 2063 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,760 Speaker 1: a change and a lot of teams that are doing 2064 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 1: the similar kind of things with too high safety looks 2065 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 1: and trying to keep everything in front um, and it 2066 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,519 Speaker 1: just it's not conducive to the deep game, the deep 2067 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 1: ball um. So, you know, I think that people are 2068 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,439 Speaker 1: getting pressure on the passer more frequently and taking away 2069 01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 1: the big play. So you're doing the whole Belichick thing. 2070 01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 1: Make them go ten, twelve, fourteen plays, and sooner or 2071 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,680 Speaker 1: later we'll get some pressure, we'll cause a you know, 2072 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 1: we'll cause an incompletion, we'll get off the field. Yeah, um, 2073 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 1: just god. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty spoiled. I started playing 2074 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 1: football when I was ten back in two thousands, So 2075 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,160 Speaker 1: this is all I've ever known as winning. But I 2076 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,400 Speaker 1: feel like you're right. The Patriots for the past twenty 2077 01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,080 Speaker 1: plus years have had They've always did everything in front 2078 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 1: of them, everything in front of everything in front of them. Ye, 2079 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 1: it's just it's been the normal, you know, That's all 2080 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,920 Speaker 1: I've ever known. Ye. Perfect, No, I appreciate the answer, guys. 2081 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,240 Speaker 1: You guys have a great day. Thanks. I was just 2082 01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna give you I know we talked about penalties. The 2083 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: updated Patriots penalties. They're twenty sixth overall and the number 2084 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: of penalties their third overall im pre snap penalt third 2085 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,240 Speaker 1: worst in pre snap penalties, and that was the seven 2086 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:43,960 Speaker 1: pre snap penalties. That was the point I was trying 2087 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,639 Speaker 1: to make, like, you know, you're good at get penalties, 2088 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 1: but you can't have the ones that can't be ignored. 2089 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,479 Speaker 1: Um although in this case they did have one that 2090 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:58,240 Speaker 1: was ignored got a touchdown out of it. Yea. So 2091 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 1: they're one of the least penalized teams in the league twelve. 2092 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 1: But but they have the third most pre snap penalties, 2093 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,040 Speaker 1: seven pre snap penalties. They're twelfth on offense, twenty sixth 2094 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,320 Speaker 1: on defense, sixteenth and special teams. But yeah, the pre 2095 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:16,200 Speaker 1: snap penalties are are a bugaboo. All right, let's go 2096 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,720 Speaker 1: one more call and we'll get back to the emails. 2097 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:26,760 Speaker 1: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey, Eldred, what's he listening to? 2098 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,960 Speaker 1: Sounds like he's cheating on us. Yeah, Eldred, We're supposed 2099 01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,599 Speaker 1: to be the only podcast he listens to. All right, 2100 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,000 Speaker 1: call back. It's very sad, it's very poor. Claire's writing 2101 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,559 Speaker 1: in Hello, everyone, Hello, Marin and me. I gotta say 2102 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 1: this felt this was a not win game rather than 2103 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,280 Speaker 1: a loss. I don't feel too bad about it, to 2104 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: be honest. So with what you guys were saying about 2105 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,439 Speaker 1: John od Smith possibly being out for a few games, 2106 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,479 Speaker 1: do you see the Patriots looking for a veteran tight 2107 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,120 Speaker 1: end to bring in, specially a blocking one. You know. 2108 01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: I hate to say, Claire, but ever since you kind 2109 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,680 Speaker 1: of came on board and started this whole tight end thing, 2110 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:08,080 Speaker 1: the completely devoid of tight end play, completely devoid of 2111 01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:12,040 Speaker 1: tight end play. Yeah, scared them away, Claire Pick. And 2112 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 1: I think the Hunter Henry thing is interesting to me. Yeah. 2113 01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,719 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry had nine touchdowns last year, and I always 2114 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:22,080 Speaker 1: a complete and total afterthoughts, there's nine target disconnect like 2115 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,120 Speaker 1: what happened? I don't know. And this isn't on the 2116 01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 1: tight end no, I mean, I don't know. I don't 2117 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 1: know if it's an offensive thing, if they're trying to 2118 01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:31,559 Speaker 1: push the ball down the field more. It's just they 2119 01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: seem like they are more focused on making those guys block, 2120 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,960 Speaker 1: and I just it's it's they're not good at it. 2121 01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 1: It's not it's not positive the win when they're forced 2122 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,639 Speaker 1: to block and come and pull and lead the way, 2123 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,640 Speaker 1: and they they get in the way kind of, but 2124 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 1: they don't really move anybody, and you know, it's it's 2125 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, to Claire's point, it's like I'd almost 2126 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,559 Speaker 1: rather have at least the guy who's a really effective blocker, 2127 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 1: because at least you know you're getting one thing out 2128 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,120 Speaker 1: of them for sure. But if you're not getting any 2129 01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,680 Speaker 1: receptions out of these guys, they're not really passive. This 2130 01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,080 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. They're just they're not contributing 2131 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,680 Speaker 1: really in any way. And in some cases in the 2132 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,679 Speaker 1: blocking game, I feel like they're hurting. Now that said, 2133 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,600 Speaker 1: we talked about third down. Hunter Henry was there, so 2134 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 1: I think there are moments that these guys are open. 2135 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,680 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't really say that with John. I don't 2136 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,439 Speaker 1: feel like they've missed on a lot of plays with JOHNU. 2137 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's a disconnect somehow. And that's 2138 01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,639 Speaker 1: one thing I think, when you know Mac does come back, 2139 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,600 Speaker 1: can that return, especially in the red zone as they 2140 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,320 Speaker 1: get down there and get more reps in the red zone, 2141 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,839 Speaker 1: get Hunter Henry some touchdowns. Philippe and Rio de Janeiro 2142 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 1: writes in as much as the Bailey's appy conversation is 2143 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,600 Speaker 1: interesting and revealing of what Patriots fans truly think of 2144 01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,479 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Can we talk about the other Bailey on 2145 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 1: the team, the most expensive punter in the league, Jake Bailey. 2146 01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,880 Speaker 1: He's now entering his second bad season and had a 2147 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 1: particularly bad game against the Packers after Belichick stress throughout 2148 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,479 Speaker 1: the week the importance of field position. Sorry if you 2149 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,880 Speaker 1: already discussed it, I missed the first part of the 2150 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: show and we'll have to catch up afterwards. Well, I 2151 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,200 Speaker 1: mean Andy treat tweeted out today which I noted that 2152 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,360 Speaker 1: Bailey's twenty nine think gross and net punting, So you know, 2153 01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,280 Speaker 1: it's just, I mean, that's tough for me to just 2154 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,720 Speaker 1: so you know, that's up, that's up from what he 2155 01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,280 Speaker 1: was last last week. So I don't know, I struggle 2156 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,720 Speaker 1: to really truly judge punters accurately based on these kind 2157 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,840 Speaker 1: of numbers, But I don't think he's really helped them 2158 01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,639 Speaker 1: a lot in terms of the field position. I think 2159 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,080 Speaker 1: the punt that he had at the end of the 2160 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,720 Speaker 1: fourth quarter was particularly bad, thirty six yard punt when 2161 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:38,200 Speaker 1: they were backed up. You know, sometimes the the gross 2162 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,559 Speaker 1: numbers can be misleading. If you're punting a lot from 2163 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,720 Speaker 1: around midfield, you know, you know, you could have a 2164 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 1: thirty five yard punt that gets down at the five 2165 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 1: and that's you know, it's a terrific punt, you know. Yeah. 2166 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,760 Speaker 1: But when you're punting from your own fifteen with I 2167 01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 1: don't know, three minutes left and you get a thirty 2168 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: six yards or off, you know only because Romeo Dubbs 2169 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,920 Speaker 1: dropped it touchdown? Did you survive that? That should have 2170 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,880 Speaker 1: been game set match? That was a bad punt in 2171 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 1: a big time, big in a big spot. Jack and Anaba. 2172 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,960 Speaker 1: Rome wasn't built in a day, nor will the post 2173 01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 1: Brady Patriots be built in a day. Nevertheless, from the 2174 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,120 Speaker 1: patriots gritty overtime lost to Green Bay at Lambeau, the 2175 01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,679 Speaker 1: outlines of the formidable edifice of the next championship Patriots 2176 01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 1: team began to appear. In vindication of Belichick's last three drafts, 2177 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:31,120 Speaker 1: young Patriots are emerging as consistent playmakers and potential difference makers. 2178 01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 1: Mike and When You Cole Strange, Damian Harris, Romande Stevenson, 2179 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore, Jack Jones, Marcus Jones, Bailey's Appy Mac Jones 2180 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,720 Speaker 1: too if he weren't injured. The Patriots still have a 2181 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,600 Speaker 1: way to go, But after last Sunday's performance, I have 2182 01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,920 Speaker 1: hoped for the future of this team. What do you 2183 01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 1: think I need more? I need more out of those guys. 2184 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,679 Speaker 1: I need to see them, you know, win, That would 2185 01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,680 Speaker 1: help too. But I mean, I you know, I think 2186 01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:59,639 Speaker 1: there's some truth in what he's saying with on when 2187 01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 1: you and I mean, I really liked him at right guard. 2188 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,160 Speaker 1: I think he's been effective there this year. But you know, 2189 01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,759 Speaker 1: I just I don't think any there's no nobody's developing 2190 01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,680 Speaker 1: into star players, you know, like and that's like my 2191 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,000 Speaker 1: hope of On paper, it doesn't look like they have 2192 01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,120 Speaker 1: those guys, But the hope would be that you've got 2193 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 1: a good team that's well coached, and they play together 2194 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,000 Speaker 1: and guys start to emerge from that and all of 2195 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, guys, you know, like a Rob Nikovich, you know, 2196 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 1: emerges and oh, all right, this guy knows how to play, 2197 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,880 Speaker 1: and we could he develops and he becomes an impact player. 2198 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 1: And as much as you want to say the last 2199 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 1: three drafts were great, I mean that was the twenty 2200 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 1: draft draft that great. I mean, I like Kyle Dugger. 2201 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't love him. I don't feel like that, 2202 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,320 Speaker 1: Oh he's a slam dunk safety for the next ten years. 2203 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,120 Speaker 1: Here he was playing like a guy who was a 2204 01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,840 Speaker 1: little injured. No, but and I litter you've seen from 2205 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger that like to Mike's point, like, I think 2206 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger's fine. I like, I don't have any problem 2207 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,120 Speaker 1: with Kyle Dugger, but he's not a guy that I 2208 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 1: look back and say, we've got Kyle Dugger back in 2209 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:59,639 Speaker 1: that twenty draft. Like, yeah, Michael Awhenio, Michael Lawhennu wasn't 2210 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,439 Speaker 1: playing in place of Ted Carriss last year, So now 2211 01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,960 Speaker 1: he's playing because you lost two offensive linemen and someone's 2212 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,320 Speaker 1: got to play, and it's Michael Lewen. You. I agree 2213 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,360 Speaker 1: with Mike. I think he's he's played fine at guard. Like, 2214 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,800 Speaker 1: that's not going to make the difference having you know, 2215 01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: a couple of good running backs and a couple of 2216 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,800 Speaker 1: good guards as your draft picks. That's not what championship 2217 01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,719 Speaker 1: foundations have built upon. I know that that sounds funny 2218 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,840 Speaker 1: because the old school way of you gotta build from 2219 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 1: within and be strong. Yes, you can't have a terrible 2220 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,559 Speaker 1: offensive line but you don't have to have first round 2221 01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:38,200 Speaker 1: picks in third round picks running the ball. In order 2222 01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,640 Speaker 1: to be a championship caliber team, you have to have 2223 01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 1: some playmakers along the way, and they really don't have 2224 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 1: any on either side of the ball. In my mind, now, 2225 01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,639 Speaker 1: maybe Jack Jones is a playmaker on defense. Maybe maybe 2226 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to say, like first game he 2227 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 1: goes out, causes two turnovers. Maybe maybe this is what 2228 01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 1: he is. Maybe he's just one of those guys he's 2229 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,240 Speaker 1: gonna make plays. If he is, that's a start. But 2230 01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,240 Speaker 1: do you think that you're gonna win a championship just 2231 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,519 Speaker 1: like lining up and running the ball? No, No, you 2232 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,640 Speaker 1: need you need the you need the big positions, right 2233 01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:16,200 Speaker 1: likeships that Derek Henry win zero. You know how like 2234 01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,439 Speaker 1: we play teams and we look at some of their players. 2235 01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:22,320 Speaker 1: He's a problem, he's a problem. Who on the Patriots 2236 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,280 Speaker 1: when other teams are planning for us say he's a problem. 2237 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean a little jude on. I mean I think 2238 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,799 Speaker 1: he's okay play. I think he's a good player. Yeah, okay, 2239 01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you that. You for some reason, when you 2240 01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,920 Speaker 1: just said that, I thought you said, uh, I thought 2241 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,120 Speaker 1: you said Ouch. I said Jude, and I was like, 2242 01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 1: how what was that? What? What was that facetious? But 2243 01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's the positions you need, Like you need 2244 01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,840 Speaker 1: a receiver, you need a quarterback, you need a pass rusher. 2245 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd throw him a linebacker in there that 2246 01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,679 Speaker 1: can make plays and you know, get sidelined to sideline 2247 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,320 Speaker 1: and you know they don't really have those. I mean 2248 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 1: you can say Jude on off the edge, and I 2249 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,639 Speaker 1: do think that that's app but there's not a lot 2250 01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,320 Speaker 1: of depth and not a lot of it's a problem 2251 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,800 Speaker 1: for the other team. Quick game to end the show. 2252 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get going. This is from Anthony for Shawn 2253 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,320 Speaker 1: Slater's out for the season. If interested, ideal win to 2254 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,560 Speaker 1: the Charges in a heartbeat for fourth or maybe a 2255 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,920 Speaker 1: third fourth swap deal. Um, that was just a comment. 2256 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,760 Speaker 1: We're not getting a third round pick, frisea win, just 2257 01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,160 Speaker 1: to say that, would you rather questions answer which you 2258 01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 1: think would make the team better. Would you rather have 2259 01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,760 Speaker 1: Judon and Barmark combined for thirty sacks or Harris and 2260 01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:34,600 Speaker 1: Stevenson combined for thirty touchdowns? Thirty touchdowns? That's crazy. You 2261 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,000 Speaker 1: gotta score a win. Mac averages three hundred yards, three 2262 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,559 Speaker 1: touchdowns and two turnovers a game, or he averages one 2263 01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,400 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards one touchdown in point to five 2264 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,479 Speaker 1: turnovers per game. The ladder, Yeah, the ladder. Do the 2265 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:52,360 Speaker 1: ladder over the former? Yeah, yeah, living on that edge. 2266 01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,599 Speaker 1: John U and Henry combined for fifteen touchdowns or Jones 2267 01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:02,960 Speaker 1: rookies combined for fifteen interceptions. Touchdowns. Touchdowns are more important 2268 01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 1: than anything. Yeah, I don't know. I don't got to 2269 01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 1: score touchdowns. Fifteen interceptions, I don't know. That's seven back 2270 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,839 Speaker 1: and forth touchdowns and then somebody else can score the touchdowns. 2271 01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,760 Speaker 1: Folk attempts fifty five field goals and misses only one. 2272 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 1: Or Folk attempts only twenty five but misses eight. So 2273 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,519 Speaker 1: what he's saying, we're kicking a lot of field goal Yeah, 2274 01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,639 Speaker 1: twenty five because I means they're scoring touchdowns. Yeah, we hope, 2275 01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,240 Speaker 1: and not even just they can just I'm gonna trap 2276 01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 1: away and say they're scoring touchdown. That's why he didn't 2277 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,000 Speaker 1: attempt any field goals, right, Otherwise I would say, well, 2278 01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,240 Speaker 1: fifty four field goals, that's a lot. It's a lot 2279 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,880 Speaker 1: of points, all right. That's gonna do it. For this 2280 01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,920 Speaker 1: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow at noon 2281 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:50,080 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Wednesday. 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