WEBVTT - Ep 219 - Black Lives Matter. Periodt.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, you don't forget all that. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>talking because girl is about to get real. It's how

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<v Speaker 1>you do a mandra.

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<v Speaker 2>No time for intros. How are you well? Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for asking, Tiffany. I'm hanging in there. I am hanging

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<v Speaker 2>in there. I am. All I can say is thank

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<v Speaker 2>God for my child, who was the best to reprieve.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have every couple hours just playing with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it wrong to feel really excited? I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone through my deep funk and I am on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side and feeling a bit optimistic. Dare I

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<v Speaker 2>say the word optimistic? I feel like the response to

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened. First of all, a lot has happened to

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<v Speaker 2>the last show that feels like we stopped recording, and

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<v Speaker 2>the most exciting news story was the Central Park Karen

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<v Speaker 2>and Amy Cooper's probably like thank you, which is so

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<v Speaker 2>terrible because don't forget about her, because she's a hot

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<v Speaker 2>mess and deserves all the you know, whatever she gets.

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<v Speaker 2>But then this news broke, and doesn't it feel like

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<v Speaker 2>in the last week this I don't think this would

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<v Speaker 2>have happened if it hadn't been for the COVID pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people would have been as connected to

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<v Speaker 2>virtual world, like to social media and sitting around their

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<v Speaker 2>houses with nothing better to do. And thank God in

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<v Speaker 2>a way for this virus. I mean, it's so complicated,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm kind of grateful that people have had all

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<v Speaker 2>this free time to dig in and speak out and

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<v Speaker 2>get galvanized around this this this social injustice and this

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<v Speaker 2>moment in our history. But at the same time, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm optimistic, but I'm also scared. I'm scared for

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<v Speaker 2>people out there protesting. I don't want there to be

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<v Speaker 2>another wave of the coronavirus. I am dealing with my

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<v Speaker 2>own internal demons. I don't know if you guys know,

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<v Speaker 2>but half my family is white, and I don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to very many of them anymore. And I've been distancing

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<v Speaker 2>myself for years now, and I realize I am I

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<v Speaker 2>complicit by distancing myself by not engaging with them when

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<v Speaker 2>I have a seat at their table potentially, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could be engaging with them. And so I've been slowly

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<v Speaker 2>dipping my toe back into the family Facebook wars, which

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<v Speaker 2>it's its own thing. But yeah, that's it. I'm coping.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel optimistic, I'm scared I'm worried, but I'm hopeful.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing? What's happening in your end of

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<v Speaker 2>the your side of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I've just been like so angry. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>realize how much anger there was, you know, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>things happen all the time, and honestly, as a black woman,

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<v Speaker 1>like who was like, I guess you could call overtly black,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, some people are like, oh, what I say, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't wonder I'm black.

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<v Speaker 2>No, let's acknowledge that you walking through the world is

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<v Speaker 2>very different than me walking through the world company and

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<v Speaker 2>I am not. I am not afraid to admit that

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And that's another emotion I have tied up

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<v Speaker 2>in this keep going though.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just it just hit me with rage, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I usually don't feel rage, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like what the entire hell? Honestly, like what like I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been so angry. I'm not even gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know where to place it, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't sleep with it. It's just and to see folks reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>who I mean, black folks already know they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>tif hey, you know I got you like I. But

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<v Speaker 1>some of the reaction to some of the white folks

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<v Speaker 1>that follow me not a bunch either. White people have

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<v Speaker 1>been silent because they're like, yikes, we've never seen militant tiffty,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Cause you know I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>I want to. I already know. I'm very conscious. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in an all white neighborhood. We literally, me

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<v Speaker 1>and my best friend Ron were the only two black

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the whole middle school. I'm talking about middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>six seventh, eighth grade, okay, And so I'm very conscious,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, I used to be super comfortable in

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<v Speaker 1>all white spaces, well comfortable as much as you can be,

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<v Speaker 1>just as someone who grew up in white spaces. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I know I have an air about me that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me black safe. So I was conscious that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew there were a lot of white women. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that following me. I know my core audience is black,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been doing a lot more white podcasts and things,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was getting just as influx. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell a story. I told the story about

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<v Speaker 1>the neighbor so they could see that, Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you claim that you think I'm so great, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like I got it all together. Look what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with this neighbor calling the police?

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Ken? We're talking about Keith? Oh Ken? Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we called me.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably name is Ken, and you know what, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Say in a whole different context, say his name. And

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<v Speaker 2>for those who haven't listened, Tiffany, and you had your

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<v Speaker 2>brother in law, right, Superman's twin brother had an altercation

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<v Speaker 2>with the white male neighbor who was very offended that

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<v Speaker 2>he dared to have to park his car near his dress.

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<v Speaker 1>And so after kicking his car and threading him in

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<v Speaker 1>the street and cursing him out and jumping up with

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<v Speaker 1>his fists up, and my brother in law, who was

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<v Speaker 1>six six and could have smashed him with like one fist,

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing. It was like all right, man and walked inside,

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<v Speaker 1>screamed to his partner, called the police, called the police,

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<v Speaker 1>because what else do you do as someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a rise out of a black man. Oh no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this can't be, this can't be. We have to call

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<v Speaker 1>the police. So I told that story and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, and I'm gonna say it felt it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was flooded with so many women, white women who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote out to me, you know, just expressing like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to say, but that's wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so and I did that because honestly, black folks

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<v Speaker 1>already know that story's not for you. That's the least

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's a small I mean, there has been

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<v Speaker 1>way worse that happen to most of the black folks

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Like, if you are non black, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are a non black man listening to this topic, ask

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<v Speaker 1>any black man in your life, ask them about that

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<v Speaker 1>one time with the police, that two times with the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally every single black man in your life has a

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<v Speaker 1>scary police story. Now that always pulled over and I

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<v Speaker 1>got a ticket has a scary police story. Think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single black man in your life, I would centure

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<v Speaker 1>to say, over the age of seventeen, has a scary

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<v Speaker 1>police story. What other race can say that? Nobody? And

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<v Speaker 1>so these were things were like building up in me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then watching people's reaction to the looters, I call

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<v Speaker 1>it rebellion. And when Kaepernick neil it was oh disrespect,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was hey, this is not right, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are too loud and now that they're burning stuff down,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what else could you? What else is necessary?

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<v Speaker 1>And then to really piss me up, I had posted

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King, who because everybody loves to lean back

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<v Speaker 1>on Martin as if white folks didn't murder him, murder him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I posted and where he said riot is the

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<v Speaker 1>language of the unheard. Literally, someone's in the comments going,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Martin, to believe that? Did you just see what

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<v Speaker 1>this man said? I'm the video of literally Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 1>King using the words from his mouth, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what would Jesus say? And then I posted John two

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen Jesus enters into the temple with whips and turns

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<v Speaker 1>over the tables of the money exchangers because Jesus rioted

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes people don't hear, so they got to feel

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Jesus did, and they were like, oh, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just want to tell you the level of rage.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like really trying to because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no I don't want the anger to just spoil.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've just been like meeting with my team and

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<v Speaker 1>even just myself and asking, Okay, what proactively can I

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<v Speaker 1>do other than donating and things like that. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>what can I do? And so there are some things

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<v Speaker 1>I have in place, like I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to mentor other black, brown and black business owners because

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<v Speaker 1>we create a really safe space in our environment. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that so many people don't have safe spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>So if more there were more brand and black business owners,

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<v Speaker 1>they can hire more brand and black people so they

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<v Speaker 1>can have safe spaces if they don't feel safe in

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<v Speaker 1>corporate America, which so many people don't or don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>fairly treated. So yeah, it's just honestly to say all

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say. I've been mad as hell. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been mad as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm soaking that in And the last thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>said hit me, hit me hard. I didn't realize because

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you who have listened to the show

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, you know tiffany entrepreneur, runs her own business,

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<v Speaker 2>built her own empire. Mandy Woodruff has been in the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate world her Why am I talking about something the

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<v Speaker 2>whole third person, just stop it. I worked for corporations

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<v Speaker 2>like most of Americans for a long time. I have

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<v Speaker 2>carved out this very unique space for myself at my

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<v Speaker 2>company where I am the main hiring manager for my team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the senior leader for my team, and that means

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<v Speaker 2>I hire the people for my team. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>proud and it's not an accident, and I'm not afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to say that that I have one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>racially diverse, ethnically diverse teams in our company, and a

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<v Speaker 2>company that has acknowledged this. That is no secret. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a public company. You can see for yourself. Above my level,

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<v Speaker 2>almost everybody is a white man, and this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that the company has acknowledged. My mentor, the man who

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<v Speaker 2>hired me, is a white man, and I was speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to someone I was told my mom earlier today something

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't never told her, which is that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I hadn't had that endorsement from my mentor

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<v Speaker 2>this white man, if I would be where I am today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been afraid to say that. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I also feel like that is the proof

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<v Speaker 2>and the putting of the idea of allyship, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being an ally because unfortunately, a woman of color

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<v Speaker 2>walks into a room as I have been, and has

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<v Speaker 2>been given a leadership role and his second guest at

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<v Speaker 2>every turn for a long time. I got to skip

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<v Speaker 2>go or whatever. I got a couple steps ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>the game by having the endorsement of a white man

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<v Speaker 2>who was respected. And it's a damn shame. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make me any less qualified for the work that I have,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has fast tracked me to the scene I am.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not afraid to admit that I've never spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy, to this man about it, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is the story that I believe to be true. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>When I showed up to work today, I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a team that is largely female, mostly white,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I said, diverse. We have people who are black,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Latinos on our team, we have anyway, just

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<v Speaker 2>a wide variety of people. And I could not bring

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<v Speaker 2>myself to show up to work today and not acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>it in some way. And we just happened to have

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<v Speaker 2>our all team meeting on the first Monday of each month,

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<v Speaker 2>and that happened to be this Monday. And I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to my number two and I was like, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of doing a moment of silence, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get her. I felt like I needed her support.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not black, but she's also a minority. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistani and Muslim, and she's written about this. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big secret. Anyway. I kind of felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>needed her support because as a woman of color, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize this, but I am sometimes afraid to or

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<v Speaker 2>as a way of protecting myselfs in those rooms where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the only one, you don't always want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>up back that, Oh, by the way, remember me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the brown one. You want people to just take you

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<v Speaker 2>as you are, and by me acknowledging what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in our country right now, it was almost like reminding

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<v Speaker 2>our team, Oh hey, hey, y'all, I'm Mandy and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>black and I'm a woman. So anyway, she was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we should do that. At the top of my at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the meeting, I said, Okay, team, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to acknowledge the fact that there are there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much going on. We're in the middle of a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys have been killing it. We've been working business

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<v Speaker 2>as usual, but I want you guys to know this

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<v Speaker 2>is not business as usual, and especially what's been going

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<v Speaker 2>on the past week with so much anger and frustration

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<v Speaker 2>over social injustice in this country. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that it's happening, and I want to know that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't expect you to come to work and pretend

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not a human being. And so let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a moment of silence, and you can turn off your video,

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<v Speaker 2>which some people chose to turn off their video. And

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<v Speaker 2>I saw some people praying, and I saw some people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of just closing their eyes for a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so glad that I did it, But I

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<v Speaker 2>also felt like I held back, Like I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, black lives matter. I didn't say George Floyd's name.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt this like I still felt like I was

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<v Speaker 2>censoring myself a little bit because I didn't want people

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<v Speaker 2>to complain, Like I was a little worried that someone

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<v Speaker 2>on my team might go above me and or to

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<v Speaker 2>HR or something complain because you don't want to bring politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that it's a political issue, it's a human rights issue, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but they might claim that there was some like political

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<v Speaker 2>tone to what we're doing or what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was a little cognizant of that, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>never done it before, so I was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>nervous but I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And but there's so much fear involved in sons, and

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<v Speaker 1>like speaking, I'm not gonna lie, so like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>worry that you'll lose people, yes, because even like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been posting like heavily on the budget needst to page

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonnae. I hesitated at first, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, and they're gonna just say just stick

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<v Speaker 1>to finance, Tiffany. And then I was like, yo, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly have a black son the hell. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my dad coming home one day like enraged

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<v Speaker 1>and so angry, and I'm like, what happened? He said

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<v Speaker 1>he was in a car accident that this woman hit

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<v Speaker 1>his car, so they both got out. She said she

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<v Speaker 1>was so sorry. He said, no problem. They're exchanging like information.

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<v Speaker 1>A police officer pulled up and said, what seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be your problem, asked the woman. She okay? She said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah fine. He told my father why are you

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<v Speaker 1>bothering her? And he was like, what we got to

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<v Speaker 1>a cark? So he said, no, you're harassing this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And she even was like, no, I hit his car. Beout.

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<v Speaker 1>He said no, no, don't worry and basically bullied my father

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<v Speaker 1>to get back in the car, and my father did.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just that's what I'm just saying, do you

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who are not, what is that

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<v Speaker 1>life for you? I can remember in college, me and

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<v Speaker 1>my friend downtown New Brunswick talking to these cute guys

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<v Speaker 1>who were outside. We used to call the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the town in New Brunswick Counties because New

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<v Speaker 1>Brunswicks were Ruckers. It's a very college town, so these

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<v Speaker 1>were townies so they lived there. We're like, ooh, they're cute.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just outside talking and it probably was like eight

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock at night. Police pull up. I'm not thinking anything

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<v Speaker 1>of it because what I don't got none to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about for the police. I didn't do anything. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the police pull up, the guys stand up, go

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<v Speaker 1>against the gate, leg spread, hands up, and I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>did they do Oh my god, they did something.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>The police apparently packed them down two or three times

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<v Speaker 1>a day. That's the life that these people live. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the life that these men live, that these boys live,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, yo, I it's incredible to me

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<v Speaker 1>that folks I get it, because if you don't, I

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<v Speaker 1>get if you don't see it, you don't realize it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a different world out here for other people. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>All my black male friends are scared. Every day they

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<v Speaker 1>leave the house if the police pull up, are scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being in a car I hadn't pulled over before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, please sometimes talk a little crazy, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>different even as a woman. I've been in a car

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<v Speaker 1>with my three male friends and one of them makes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ooh ooh, wrong turn, wrong term, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes a youth turn. Wooooo the police car. I'm like, god, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my bad I'll pay for the ticket because

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna get a ticket for this U turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we didn't get a ticket. We got pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out of the car, the car got flipped and searched.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I am talking like, yo, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that, and my friends are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me with terror. The three black men i'm with error

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<v Speaker 1>like Tiffany, shut up. And I didn't get why, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why should I shut up? This is not right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you can't do get it? And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like but the look in their eye, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are big dudes. The look in their eye

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<v Speaker 1>was so scared. They look like two year olds that

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<v Speaker 1>I just shut up. I shut up, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped talking back to the police officer, tell him that

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<v Speaker 1>he had no right to do that. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why did you? Why did you? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>When he finally were allowed to get back in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you? Oh, there was a robbery or something,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and I was like what. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>got in a car, they were like, Tiffy, don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. I'm like, yeah, but it's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, yeah, but it's more important for that we

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<v Speaker 1>get home safely. And I'm just like, yo, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is to live like that day in

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<v Speaker 1>day out. That's how people treat you. And I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to just smile at work. I'm supposed to just pull

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<v Speaker 1>myself up by the bootstraps whatever bullshit that people tell you. Honestly, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm like, burn that shit down. I don't care. Oh, Anista,

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<v Speaker 1>you condone violence? Are you kidding me? Racism is violence? Right? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Slavery wasn't violent, y'all didn't loot every other country. It's violence.

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<v Speaker 1>You're worried about Target. I haven't seen the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have messages message me that they're so disappointed that I

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<v Speaker 1>have no problem with with the rebellion, not the riot.

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<v Speaker 1>With the rebellion. Those same people I look on their

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<v Speaker 1>page and they're not once mentioning the death of someone.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're worried about Target, but somebody died, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yo, honestly, I'm all one. I'm like, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can get it. I been lightened asses up all week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it's just I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing, but I'm also no like and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>you have every right to be over it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it is the bubbling over of so many

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<v Speaker 2>people who have lived what you just subscribed and haven't

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<v Speaker 2>shared it because, like I said, sometimes it puts you

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<v Speaker 2>at a disadvantage to acknowledge your blackness, to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>you have come into the world at a disadvantage purely

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<v Speaker 2>by the skin tone that you were born with, which

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<v Speaker 2>was not in your control. People don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>that mess People don't want to hear or that something

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<v Speaker 2>they had that they didn't you know, they just were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, born into gives them a privilege they want

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<v Speaker 2>to believe the story they've told themselves, that they are special,

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<v Speaker 2>that they are better, that we are weaker, that we

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<v Speaker 2>are that we are less educated, and it's our fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you share these stories, I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like we have a safe space to share

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<v Speaker 2>them now in my little small way, which afterwards, I

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of was like, that was kind of a cop out.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't I just say what I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I pointed people toward the charity platform that my company supports,

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<v Speaker 2>where you match donations, and I knew that they had

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<v Speaker 2>a fund a platform where you could literally you could

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<v Speaker 2>donate specifically to funds they curated that support Black Lives

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<v Speaker 2>Matter and social injustice movements, which was amazing. But I

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<v Speaker 2>chose not to point that specifically out to my team

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<v Speaker 2>because again, I just was I held back, so I

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<v Speaker 2>put a foot forward, but I still feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>could have gone a bit, I could have gone a

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<v Speaker 2>bit harder. And what happened thirty minutes after that meeting

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 2>is that we got an email from our CEO. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is Doug Lepta, it's not a secret, and he

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<v Speaker 2>emailed the entire company and it was a very heartfelt email,

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<v Speaker 2>and the long and short of it is that he

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledged that he acknowledged that he was a white man.

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<v Speaker 2>He acknowledged the pain of our black employees at our company,

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<v Speaker 2>and he gave us space to speak on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's small things, creating a slack channel, talking about being open,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that he wrote that email, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sad to admit it, but I felt safe. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like no one can complain that I said what I

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<v Speaker 2>said now because the CEO, a white man, has endorsed

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<v Speaker 2>it and he has supported it, and he's given us

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.280
<v Speaker 2>permission to be angry, and that means something. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to say that you know our CEO, you

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<v Speaker 2>know he has he you know he supported Republican causes

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, and that's sometimes an issue with people

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<v Speaker 2>with the company. Whatever he But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I give him credit because it does matter what white

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<v Speaker 2>people in power do in the wake of this crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I feel, what I feel what's shifting right

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<v Speaker 2>now is I'm hearing less from people of color and

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<v Speaker 2>more from people who are white, and even friends of

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<v Speaker 2>mine who are Asian like talking to their people, talking

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<v Speaker 2>to their communities, and explaining the history and how they've

0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.399
<v Speaker 2>benefited from the civil rights movement, And that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to not be just our conversation. We need

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<v Speaker 2>people who are not black to stand up and be

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.879
<v Speaker 2>enraged as well, because they should be. Any human should be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not their problem, our problem where the others we

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<v Speaker 2>deserve it. Whatever, everyone should be enraged, and I at

0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:54.720
<v Speaker 2>least feel heartened by that. That presents another issue, though,

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>have you had what you said, like you had white

0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 2>followers who reached out to you. But the the other

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 2>issue is, you know, and I've been posting on social too,

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to like speakle what's on my heart. And

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<v Speaker 2>what happens now is anyone who has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>white friends or has friends who are not black, or

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<v Speaker 2>family or whatever. They come to you and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you about their black cousin or their black

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<v Speaker 2>nephew and how they get it and how sorry they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to pour into you and they want

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to pour out how they feel, and they want to

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.359
<v Speaker 2>ask you what can I do? Can you talk to me?

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a level of exhaustion with that, and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do the work for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>fucking go educate yourself, and I'm going to share in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. A couple of some people have taken

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<v Speaker 2>it upon themselves to put together a publicly available list

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<v Speaker 2>of resources documentaries, books, films, articles that any person, but

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 2>mostly people who are not of color, should read, can

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 2>read to educate themselves. Before you come to us and

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 2>ask us to do the work, give you the girl notes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, spark notes, version of our history so that

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<v Speaker 2>you understand the deeper issue. And that's the next It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the rage, but then the exhaustion, and that's where

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you hear people of color, like black people, we're fucking tired,

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<v Speaker 2>tired of having to be the ones on top of

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<v Speaker 2>our shit to explain to you the larger issue, the

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.880
<v Speaker 2>fact that it's not just one man with the knee

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<v Speaker 2>in his neck. It's about decades, decades of complicity, decades

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<v Speaker 2>of law enforcement not being held accountable for treating some

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>people differently than others. And beyond that, forget decades, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about centuries of an entire race being being bloodied,

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<v Speaker 2>being bruised, being treated unfairly. And it's exhausting, And listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not We're not a history teacher. We're not here

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<v Speaker 2>to educate you. We need people who are willing to

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<v Speaker 2>do that work for themselves and not put that burden

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<v Speaker 2>on us. You know. Yeah, it's just and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I've kind of like been getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I told myself that I was going to give myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a week to kind of rage on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like this week, I really want to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on solutions, you know. That's why I was telling my team.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I've been raging on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a place to constructively put this energy. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>like the teacher and me, like, whenever i'm like something

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<v Speaker 1>goes wrong or bad, the only thing that sets things

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<v Speaker 1>right with me is to be of service. It's literally

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing. Like, so I'm just like, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>can you do, Tiffany, How can you help? Who can

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you help? How can you serve? And so I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>really like I'm creating like kind of like a three

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<v Speaker 1>point plan for myself of ways to serve, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even more women, especially women of color, black women, creating

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<v Speaker 1>a plan of how I can serve especially black women

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<v Speaker 1>that have businesses So one of the things where I

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<v Speaker 1>did my first today kind of with like a friend

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of ours, she mine, Oh you know her too, but

0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>she has a small business and she had some struggles

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 1>with her team and trying to figure out, like, you know,

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>how best to be a leader. And so every Monday

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a lead team call with with my lead

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>team CFO, COO managers all of that, but really the

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Monday's just mental health checking Mondays. So I've spoken about

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>before where I just check in. Like we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about you know, like cause we're a largely black team,

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>so we talk like in black. I'm like, how y'all

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>doing we you know, like we have not minceed any

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<v Speaker 1>words about how we feel. People are telling us how

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they joined marches and anyways. So she joined us today,

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<v Speaker 1>my business friend, and we were basically coaching her if

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>she had a finance question. My COFO was here. You've

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>got an organization oh question, My CEO is here. You've

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>got a question about content, my content managers here, you

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>got a question about about your online school, your online plub,

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.640
<v Speaker 1>my literature academy managers here, you got a question about

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>leadership overall, I'm here. So it was just really it

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>felt really good to pour into another business that it's

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<v Speaker 1>on its way because because I posted this post that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was so potent on my ig. It was

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>by this attorney named Takara, and Takara said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the reasons why you've heard the you know,

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I meta you've heard like I think it

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>was a New York Times that did that article that said, like,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.439
<v Speaker 1>black women are the are the fastest growing population of

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<v Speaker 1>business owners of entrepreneurs.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 2>It was like it was Forbes, Yeahbes, Yeah, of course, yeah,

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago, and so.

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<v Speaker 1>So to Car wrote that part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>there's such a surch in black owned businesses and black

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>women being the number one group of rising entrepreneurs is

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the blatant bias and racism we experience in corporate America.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Your best talent is leaving in droves because you won't

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>kill the cancer of racism in your leadership. You won't

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>give us raises due to pettiness and gossip. We worked

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>twice as hard to get half the pay, but outwork

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>and outwit almost everyone. Economic freedom is one of the

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>ways that we're going to get free and financial boycott

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>move the white populace's hand. When the kettle of racial

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>injustice broiled over in Martin's day, Remember he marched and

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that's basically shut down that bus, that bus company that

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was racist to black folks. Right, so she writes, people

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>claim that our needing and seeking out black owned institutions

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to support is racist. It's not its survival. Your coaching

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>programs want black money, but do not want black pain

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and black problems. You do not realize it's your problem too.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>We see you. We are tired. We demand more than

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you're telling us to wait for justice. Your status is

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>of This is not the way fall on deaf ears

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>after seeing so much death, Once you feel the knee

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of the black dollar on your neck, you will cry

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>out and gas for air. That's the only way, folks, listen.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>It is the only thing that moves governments and societies

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>as a whole, the almighty dollar. I can attest to

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of my team are black women, and they

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 1>are almost all of them corporate refugees, people who have

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>fled corporate America because of the abuse, the mistreatment, the

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>overlooking of their skills and talent. And they've come here, weary, abused,

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>and scared at first. It takes them a few months

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to realize it's real here, that we do care about

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>what you think and say. You are in charge here,

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you have autonomy. Here, I trust that you know what

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. I don't double check and nitpick that you

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>run this company. Here, that we actually serve women that

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>look like you with integrity and kindness, it's real and

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it takes the months to acclimate to that. And honestly,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it's the loss of corporate America. Racism means you lose too,

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>because these amazing women that literally were pushed out, you know,

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>or dragged out of their past positions have helped me

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to grow a seven figure a month a month company.

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>So think about that, this small but mighty team. How

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>is it that in four years, like one of the

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>company that makes its eight figures a year, we've done

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that in four years with the team of women were

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>there're places where they were before folks told them that

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they weren't quite good enough. What a loss for them,

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, they're not deserving of these amazing women. And

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it just like a light bulb went on and something said,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to help other folks like me to create

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>environments for us, because when I posted that on Takar's

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>message on Instagram, what really instantly hurt me and hit

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>me was the messages of so many women who are like,

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck in a place like that. Now they're basically

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>choking me, like I'm dying here, Like so many women,

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I just randomly quit. I couldn't take it anymore. Someone

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, are you hiring? I would love

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>to come work for you. And I wish I had

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars so I could scoop up all the

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>all the sisters that needed. But I thought, well, I

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>don't need to. What if I could help other people

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to be financially successful enough and to help them create

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>environments for folks like us, a safe space to grow,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>learn and to love working. And so that's what I've

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>committed myself to do, is we're going to figure or

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>what that kind of mentorship looks like. So, you know,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>because I want to be I just I don't want

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to just be angry. You know, I don't mind the anger,

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>but I want to I want to filter it towards solutions.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's definitely one of the ones I've been thinking about.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't. I don't know how to. Also,

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>people are going to ask hipy oh girl, do me

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, honestly, I haven't figured out what

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that program looks like. But I need something. I need solutions.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like I said, I don't want to just

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be angry.

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>You need the liverag or challenge for businesses. What you

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>need and you'll do it. And Tiffany, what you've done

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and what you've built, You've already done so much. You

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>have you are putting food on the table for the

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>families of black women who can go to work and

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>not feel like they need to hide who they are,

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>like me often, and who don't feel when they come

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to work they have to pretend like things aren't bothering them,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that's happening, or like that means so much. And for me,

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'm going to be a refugee from

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>the corporate world anytime soon. And for me, and for

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>people I would say who have risen to a level

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>of leadership in corporate America feel this. I feel this

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>responsibility with the position I am in. Somehow I got here?

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? How?

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I know?

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 2>In part it was because I was endorsed by a

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>respect in why man, who I love a lot. He's amazing.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>But I'm in this position and I feel a responsibility

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>to be the budgetista in my company, and I feel

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>my responsibility now. I'm not naive. Do I think I'll

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>be here forever? Probably not. I know I'm talented, I

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>have other ambitions. But I want to say, and not

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>to be corny, but you hear that Beyonce song, I

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was here. I want to be able to say I

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>was here and what I did mattered and I made

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>an impact and I don't feel like I can leave

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>until I have done that. But at the same time,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I did have to come to work today, which your

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>employees did not have to do, and check myself before

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I acknowledge what's happening in the world and get I

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>felt like I needed buy in from someone else on

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>my team, and I did it. But then, of course

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>to have the CEO's support that meant something as well.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>But I say all this to say that for those

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of you who are working for companies, I think now

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>it is a time for you to stand up and

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>speak to your colleagues. It seems like something has shifted

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>in the way that people are being open to hearing

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>from us right now. So use this opportunity. Speak up,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>use your voice, you know, use it to your advantage.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Ask for the recognition that you deserve. Bring up the

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 2>fact that, well, okay, this is what's happening in the

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>larger world, but what's happening in our company is that

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>we I've noticed in what position you have that there

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>is pay inequity along racial lines. Like use whatever platform

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to create change in your small pocket, wherever

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you fall on the corporate ladder, because I know so

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 2>many of you guys are out there, and I can't

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>wait till the world is filled, full fold filled with

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>budget needs to inks, and I feel like we can

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely get there, but we need Unfortunately, the reality is

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>that we need non black business leaders because they are

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>the majority to feel our pain and hear us and

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>think that our cause is worthwhile. And I sincerely hope

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that you know those this does not end here, and

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I hope that it continues and we have to hold

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>our business leaders accountable. Ask those questions at your town halls.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Send the anonymous you know notes to your your companies.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>You know they always have these like comment boxes or

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>whatever ask the tough questions, acknowledge that there's inequities, and

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>hold your leaders accountable because if you were afraid to

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>do it before, I think now there is something shifting

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and there is an opportunity for you to do it now.

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm exhausted now, but I uh, yeah, I that's all.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I that's all. I that's all.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's a lot, yeah, And I just I'm

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>just glad that there's a place to like express that here.

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And you guys, like, you know, come along with the

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>r for.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Brown ambition, Thank God, because what if bron ambition mean

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>like this is it? It's the fact that brown ambition

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>is different. You need to want it even more. You

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>need to fight for it even more. You need to

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>have bigger balls than everybody else, because you have to

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>go in there thinking with the Just today, I was

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>talking to someone on my team and I was like,

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about tackling a new project that neither

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 2>of us had much experience in, and I was like, listen, today,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>my name is Mark and your name is Ian and

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>we are going to approach this project with the confidence

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of a mediocre white man. Because the mediocre white man

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>has never been told or has no one assuming that

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>they're not good at something. So let's just pretend today

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that we're that person. I'll be Mark, you be Ian,

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to kill this because you know what, dude,

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>we can do it, you know. And it's sad, but

0:33:54.240 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it's true. And yeah, I just feel I something shifting.

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I support the anger, fuck the looters, like I don't

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 2>support anyone burning out businesses. That it's unnecessary and it's

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>heartbreaking to see that, but like we can't get distracted

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>by that. People are always gonna commit crimes. Forget about looting.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of people, all races right now.

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>There's so many folks that have infiltrated pretending to be

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>yet I've seen that over and over. They're like, you

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>know that so many folks, And it happened in Ferguson,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>but people were ignoring it and like, you know, I don't.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess it wasn't as much video proof. But now

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing video at the video after video where we're like,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that's not brown folks looting, that's not

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>brown folks walking out, you know. And it's so crazy

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>because there was a woman who was calmly walking out

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>of I forget what it was, what store it was,

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>like Gucci or whatever, with all the stuff in her hand,

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and the news anchor while she's talking about the other

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>looters saying, oh my goodness, here's a woman come up.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's an employee, of course, because she's a white woman,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>so she can't possibly be looting. Imagine maybe she's an

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>employee walking through the glass and the rubble with clothes

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>on her hand, leaving. So it's just I'm here's the thing,

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>like I I I don't care about that. I don't

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, I don't know what it's like to,

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, have a storefront and for it to be

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>broken into. But I assume that's what insurance is for.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing, he'll be fine, exactly. And here's

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I think that as much as everyone's saying,

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like I have my my three my four year

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>old nephew, Roman nephew was over yesterday and he was

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my attention, but I didn't notice. So

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>he said, Auntie, Auntie, Auntie. I didn't hear him. I

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>was talking to my sister Auntie. Next thing I know,

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Roman goes to the table and pushes my pushes something

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like I had like my phone on the ground and

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I look, I'm like, Robert, what are you doing? He said, Auntie,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I was asking you. That's what people do. You ignore,

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you ignore, you ignore, then you'll feel. And so that's

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 1>where we are now that folks have spoken, they have Neil,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they have Marsh, they have done all the things. The

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>only reason why the world is listening now is because

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the world is burning. And so I am like you know.

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And it had to burn again and again and again,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>and it took so many George Floyd's and it's happening

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>every day off camera. Yes, and that's it's any depressing thing, exactly.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I wanted to share really quick something and I

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to make this point because it's so important. We

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 2>just got an absentee ballot for our local elections this summer,

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.479
<v Speaker 2>and I want to say is this is a quote

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>from Barack Obama's email that he sent out, his statement

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>that he made in response to what's going on right now.

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>And I want people to get this because this is

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>why it matters, not forget who the president is. Yes

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>it matters, Yes we must vote in November, but it

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>is the smaller elections that truly matter, So, as Obama says,

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it's mayors and county executives that appoint most police chiefs

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and negotiate collective bargaining agreements with police unions. It's district

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>attorneys and states attorneys that decide whether or not to

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>investigate and ultimately charge those involved in police misconduct. Those

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>who are those are all elected positions. In some places,

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>police review boards with the power to monitor police conduct

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 2>are elected as well. But unfortunately, voter turnout in these

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.959
<v Speaker 2>have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>that who wins and who loses those seats is often

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>determined by just a few thousand or even a few

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred votes. You guys have got This is the end

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of the quote, y'all. This is me saying this is

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe y'all have got to vote in the non headline

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>elections because that shit matters, and I can't. We need

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that people understand that in our communities,

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>especially young people. That's where we can start shifting things.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to run for president, run for your

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>local city government that matters, that impacts people's lives locally

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>where you are exactly.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think that we need basically yeah, because you're right,

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the local election and that's what folks are counting on,

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that people won't be oh where during those times. And

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I'm just tired.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you guys have information to be tired. We're

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>tired af but we're here and I'm so glad to

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>be doing this podcast with you. We couldn't. We need

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to be here. We need to make people. We need

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to share our experiences with people because they're having the

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>same experiences themselves. And you guys have been sending notes

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to Brand Ambition and to me on my ig account.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Continue sending us notes, send us emails. We're going to

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 2>take a couple of questions in the next segment of

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the show, as we always do, we want to hear

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>from you guys. We want to hear what you're experiencing.

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 2>What is it like for you at work today, What

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 2>is it like for you in your small business? What's happening.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like things are shifting? How are you

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 2>feeling feel like we're a safe space for you? To

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 2>come to I certainly feel that way. I may not have,

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I may not have the support that people

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>on the budgets this team have at my job every day,

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>but I know I can come to you each week

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Monday or Tuesday or whenever we decide to record, and

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll have someone who understands what I'm going through and

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 2>that that means something. Should we just end the show there,

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's take questions. That's what I come from. When I'm

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 2>saying I'm excited, it's just like, okay, finally, it's almost like, okay, cool,

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna sit back and let the white people debate.

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>How you know terrible? This is like, y'all got it?

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, educate yourselves is cool. Everyone else should be talking.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>All right, but let's take a couple of questions. We'll

0:39:36.440 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>take a quick break and be right back with questions.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, y'all, we are back again. You can shoot

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 2>us your questions on Instagram. Our Instagram handle is brand Ambition.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>You can also hit us up on email at broad

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com dot com. All right,

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>so this is actually a good question. This comes from

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a listener from Instagram, and when I saw this question.

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I immediately responded and I said, yes, we will take

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 2>your question. She She says, Hey, Madian Tiffany, I love

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and Kate wait to listen every Wednesday. I

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 2>have a question and would like to remain anonymous. I'm

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 2>currently in an interim role at work and just interviewed

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>for a permanent position. I work at a university and

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>budgets have been shrinking. Even still, my predecessor earned twenty

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars more than I am, and they had

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>a doctorate which I'm in the process of finishing. Do

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 2>you think, if offered the position, it's wise to negotiate

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of a pandemic or should I just

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 2>be grateful and take what's offered? Can you guess what

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>we're going to say to you? I had good question,

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>right right right. Don't let a pandemic get in your way.

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not They're going to find a vaccine. It's going

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to be okay. And also, you know what's hard, it's

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>hard to ask for more during a pandemic as an employee.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It's also hard to hire during a pandemic, okay, because

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>not like companies are either. If you're not laying off

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>people you may be in the middle of a hiring freeze,

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>which means if you have someone who is eager and

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>talented like yourself at this job, you're not going to

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 2>want to lose you that person because you may not

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 2>be able to rehire that position. So you have more

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.919
<v Speaker 2>power than you might think than you do. And one

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>thousand percent, I think you should negotiate forget the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I absolutely agree that negotiating what you're worth

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>is because I think many you said it in a

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>podcast earlier that it's not just this time, that it's

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>going to set the stage for when you get paid

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the time after, the time after, the time after. You

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>know that you know that you're Typically salaries are built

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>upon like the salaries from before. So if you don't

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>get if you don't get your twenty five thousand, then

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know next time. Let's just say, as a woman,

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you're already getting less anyway, and it's five thousand less,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 1>it's really not five thousand less, it's thirty thousand dollars less.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a compounding problem. So going for what you're worth,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>people are always going to try to give you less.

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I am actually kind of like I we were talking

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>about this earlier Mayda about like how I kind of

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>blew the lid up. Well, I didn't even tell you

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I blew the liddle off. I was just like, you

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm just gonna blow the little fin Con.

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of it. The founder of fincinn posted some

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>really insensitive tweets, and I think, you know what, because

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>people were like, oh, you know, don't crucify.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Him for these few me tell the folks for fin

0:42:58.600 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>con is if they're not familiar.

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a it's a big financial educator's conference.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>That's actually where me and manager met. Well no, well

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>we met kind of just because you did a story

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>on me, but in person, right, But in person we went.

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>It was the Finncon in New Orleans. It was like

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>such a beautiful city anyway. So yeah, so big financial conference,

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>lots of literally thousands of people go. It's actually a

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. But I started to notice some changes

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like. The founder is a big, huge

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>supporter of Heisha who shall not be named it's forty five,

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>which I'm like, okay, but some of the things that

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>he would tweet, because I'm you know, I'm an elevate

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>which is a brown inclusive group for financial educator. So

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a fincon Facebook group which I'm a

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>part of, but then there's this brown Brown Elevate group

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>that I'm also proud of. So basically it's everyone non

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>white male in that group. That's when we have Asian folks,

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>we have Spanish folks. It's great. And so we would

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>share those tweets and be like, yeah, this makes me

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 1>really uncofortable, and people would share stories, but every everything

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was always hush hush. But someone from the group, Tasha,

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 1>who I don't know, she's got like balls of steel,

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>posted some of his tweets today in the FINCN group

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and said, let's discuss this ain't okay. And so it

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>was the leaded and she said, ha ha, actually I

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>think my post was deleted. Let's discuss this ain't okay.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And so people started to talk about it in the

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>comments and then story started to come out of previous

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 1>bad behavior and I wasn't gonna say anything, but I'm like,

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>why are you not saying something, Tiffany. Why is it

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that we always get to be quiet? So I was like,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, earlier this year or like late last year,

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I was asked to do a keynote for fin Con.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this before, but I didn't say it was

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>fin Con because I guess. I don't know. If I

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was afraid, I don't know. I just didn't feel like

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the smoke. But I want the smoke now. And I

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was offered two hundred. Oh no, I was offered twenty

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.959
<v Speaker 1>five hundred, which is egregiously low. So much so like literally,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>churches pay me more. They will take a collection and

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>pay more, and especially knowing that other other white men

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>from years ago were paid up to fifty thousand dollars

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred for Tiffany, fifty thousand for a white man,

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And we are you talking to me about? So I

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>reached out to you, Manny, Yes we did. I was like, Pandy,

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>can you find out what other folks? So I reached

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>out to everyone to find out what other folks were paid,

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just so to see if I'm my bucket. And people

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>were like, literally, I got a list from someone who

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>was like this person twenty thousand, this present thirty, this

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>person fifty, this person forty, and then Tiffany twenty five.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And there was another sister who spoke at fin con

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I said, let me reach out to her keynote,

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:34.760
<v Speaker 1>let me reach out to her. She was paid thirty

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. So there's a clear pattern here. And so

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I posted it in that thread and then I posted

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and it's probably went viral and yeah, and

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>then instead of saying oops, my bad, he came back

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and doubled down. It was like, actually, that's not the deal.

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>We approached Tiffany with. We said we would buy a thousand,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 1>two thousand of her new books Happy Birthday Molly Moore

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>for three thousand and fifty cents. Meanwhile, me and I

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 1>told him it cost me five dollars just to print

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the book. So you offer so I can lose two

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars in every book? I'm sorry, how is that? And

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he was like, that's seven thousand dollars right there, oh,

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand that you give me, while I come at

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>five thousand out of my pocket. Got it? And then

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:22.959
<v Speaker 1>thank you pay and that he offered that. I said,

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, before he gave me his number,

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, I could totally bring three

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>hundred Dream Catchers to fin Conn. They would love to come,

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know they would pay. And he was like, oh, okay, great,

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>we will. Finn Conn in general has a affiliate program

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you bring like a certain group of people you get

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>basically you earn some of the money that was given

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to fin Con, and he put it in this offer

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that that would be some of my money. So he's

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>telling me my pay is going to come from the

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>money I give him. So I'm going to give you

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars and you gonna give me back twenty

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>five hundred? What in the and the fact what was

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so crazy to me is that he shared a screenshot

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of the email he sent like, oh no, we didn't

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>just offer tifany twenty five hundred. We offered her even

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>these work. I had not I would say, I'm not

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>evn gonna fully play him. I had not even shared

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>the full egregiousness of the offer, but he shared it,

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, do you even see how crazy

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>this is? And you still have yet to address what

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>were other people paid. So someone was like, so she

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was right, you offered her twenty five hundred dollars. You

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, you offered her for her to

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have a loss on the books that you were going

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote buying and then on top of that,

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you also offered her to a piece of her And

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I told him distinctly, like me, bringing my audience doesn't

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>benefit me, it benefits your bottom line and your full diversity,

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like because you know my artist is going to be

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>largely black women that come. And so someone just actually

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>messaged me today, another woman, another woman of color, was like, girl,

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you better than me. He offered you twenty five hundred

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>years ago. He offered me a Starbucks card and some

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and some book sales. I'm like, no, he didn't. Not

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a Starbucks card, not a Star Wars card. Can you imagine?

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So the lid is being blown off, and I mean

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>it's time and so many women like literally messages me

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like I have stories too, and I'm afraid to say,

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to speak up for myself and even I'm

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, even with my platform now I feel

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I was nervous to say, and I was like, well, Tifny,

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>what can he do to you? Like, I mean, is

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>he gonna tell Dreamcatchers on follow Tiffany? But still there's

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a nervousness about standing up for yourself. And I to

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>bring it back to the question, asked that if we

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>don't stand up for ourselves. Then who then when you

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>know that had maybe someone said something earlier, wouldn't have

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>happened to me, And had maybe I not maybe, had

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe I said something earlier, I wouldn't have had it

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>happen to someone else. And it's like, I just don't

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>want to be afraid to say when something is wrong.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, I mean sometimes it is hard,

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But I want us to practice as women, as brown

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>ambition folks, to stand up and say we deserve this,

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and to say when something thing is wrong, because enough

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>is enough already.

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 2>And also it's unfortunate, but in this position you you

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 2>were in, it's fortunate that you were in a position

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>to be able to turn down such an offer and

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 2>expose it for what it is, so that the next

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 2>person who comes behind you. Now, I don't know if

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:19.919
<v Speaker 2>they will be ginning people behind you because of what's

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 2>happened on Twitter. I've caught up since you told me

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>about it. Now, I who knows, we'll come after you,

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 2>But at least it'll make the runners of this conference

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 2>think twice before they try and short change somebody who's

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>worth so much more and try to make assumptions about someone.

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to know your own value and sometimes it

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>is hard. You have to like, you have to do

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the power pose, you have to talk, you have to

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 2>prot you know, to right, I give myself the white

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 2>man name. I'm like today I'm gonna be Mark and

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go in. I'm going to destroy this

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>bro because like we can do it. You need to

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 2>pack yourself up in that way because unfortunately, what society

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>has told us is that oh, you're a woman, you're

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 2>a person of color. You know, things aren't there's not

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not unfairness out there. It's just that they're better

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 2>than you and you're just not as talented. And that's

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>not fucking true. It's a lie. It's a lie that

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>we've been sold to justify the success of other people

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>for doing less work because they are privilege in ways

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that were not. And I'm glad that you spoke up.

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's just another reason why. Yes, this is pain

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's heartbreaking that a man had to be stolen

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 2>from his family and God, I pray that the people

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 2>who were responsible, including the man who held his need

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to that to George Floyd's neck, I hope I pray

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>that they are held accountable. But at the same time, Ugh,

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>so many people have had to perish, and I just

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 2>hope that their deaths are not in vain and we

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 2>really finally start to see some change. Like dear God,

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 2>we need we need meaningful results from this. We need

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>those lives to matter. They do matter, but we need

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 2>them to matter in their deaths as well. And I hope,

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and you may it's a small you know, a small win,

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 2>but I just hope that in some way, by encouraging

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 2>people like you, Tiffany, to speak out about how you've

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 2>been impacted in the world and other people, that we

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 2>will see some real, some real progress. There needs to

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.280
<v Speaker 2>be an acknowledgment that the starting line is not the same.

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not it is not the same. Fuck your bootstraps.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You have gold bootstraps if you're born into this world,

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.320
<v Speaker 2>white and male, Okay, and it's it gets less the

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 2>bootstraps get less nice from there. Okay, I don't even

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>know what a bootstrap is. I'm just taking this, you know,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 2>it's on American terminology and just trying to you know.

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.439
<v Speaker 1>What, just it. What's so frustrating is that And because

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I honestly didn't want to say, but

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, Tiffany, you are you are in a position

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of privilege honestly when it comes to this, that like,

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>there's very little that can be done to you, at

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>least from him, because I mean what he could tell

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a brand, Hey, brands, if you want to work with me,

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>don't work with Tiffany. I'm good. I actually make literally

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of my money from the people that I serve.

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I did that on purpose. I was very conscious

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>when I started the Budgetissa that I didn't want. I

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted that I earned my money from my from the

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>very community that I promised to serve, and that if

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the only way I can mess that up is to

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>not be a good steward of my service, and then

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I would deserve to lose dreamcatchers not following me or

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>not not you know, not not patronizing my business. I

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>would deserve that. So I really had to run through it.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Like Tiffany, everyone can't say, girl, but you can say,

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>because what's what's he gonna do. He's gonna call own

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and be like, saw you had a Tiffany on own?

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that no more like you on black ball me.

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm black already, Like there's no. And honestly, when I

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>looked at the thread of everyone that he reached out

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to about, like you know, basically he was like kind

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of like battling against everyone and it was like, hey,

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.879
<v Speaker 1>tiff would love, would love to chat with you. Hey,

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>tif The tone totally changed, and I know why because

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yikes, she's not the one, the two, or

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the three, because Tiffany, there's bullying that can really happen here.

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Not really, Like I said, even if he kicks me out,

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going back to Fankard. It's a rap for that,

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, but I just thought, like, Timmy,

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>this is why you have to say something. And this

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>is what with everyone in positions of privilege, it's not

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be easy. That's why I told myself. I'm like, Oh,

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you're scared, you're nervous, you don't want to smoke today,

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.399
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you don't want to get in the mix. Yes,

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly how you're supposed to feel. And you're supposed

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it anyway because if you don't, there are

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:30.320
<v Speaker 1>people whose platforms are not as big that that genuinely

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 1>would be negatively impacted if they went against him, that's

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:37.879
<v Speaker 1>not you, Tiffany. You know, you're just feeling a little uncomfortable,

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and so that's why that's what because I was, I'm

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>telling you, I vacillated, like I don't know if I

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>should say. I don't know if I should say. But

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 1>when I tell you, Mandy, how many hundreds of tweets

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>people sent me, I didn't even you know, I just

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's just me, my sisters, my mom, my dad,

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and like like my three friends. So I don't really

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>look outside of myself. It's just me at home. But

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 1>so many tweets of people being like what you but

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>to you're the reason so many people say, you're the

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>reason why I started teaching financial education. I'm talking about

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>women of every shade and color and hue. You know,

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>my heart was so full, like Tiffany, you this happened

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to you, and I thought, this is why you had

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to say something, Tiffany, because people need to know that

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>no one is exempt if we don't say anything. I

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize the impact that, like with what I had

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>grown had, I mean, I know on my audience, but

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize on the financial community as a whole.

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Just looking at some of the comments. It's just really,

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said, wore, how many women were like yo,

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I started teaching financial education because of you. Yo, Tiffany,

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:38.799
<v Speaker 1>You're my mentor in my head. You know, you're my

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>best friend in my head. That came up over and

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 1>over because you know I'm crazy, and so everyone's just like, yeah,

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just I made the right decision. It's not easy.

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it'll be some backlash and I'm still vacillating

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and fight even take the call. I don't. To me,

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no excuse for it. But I'm like, well, maybe

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it's an opportunity for him to learn and grow. I

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I feel about. I also want to

0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>protect my piece, so I'm also not looking to be

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:04.240
<v Speaker 1>further aggravated. But yeah, it just we have to say something.

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>We have to say something enough of the silence. Silence

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>emboldens people and makes something they can continue to abuse others.

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>No more.

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, but you made a good point. It's protecting

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 2>your peace and it's deciding when to engage and when

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to pull back. And each of us has to make

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 2>the decision for ourselves. And it's fine if today you

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 2>decided to put your head under a pillow and not

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 2>engage with the world, and you have no idea what

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 2>happened to the news. That's fine. I feel like we're

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 2>all entitled to cope and handle it in our own way,

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so happy that you chose this moment to

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>speak out. But I also want to acknowledge the fact

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that some people are just so tired and they don't

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>have And it's like you said, we have to speak

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>out because we are in a place of privilege for

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, and there are people who are too tired

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and can't take the risk who are out there and

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>that's why you do what you do, and it's definitely

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 2>why I do what I do as well, and that's

0:55:54.560 --> 0:56:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a privilege in itself. Thank God for this show. Okay,

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 2>what do we even do now? Do we want to

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>do a brown boost?

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I do want to take a break. I want

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to do a brown boost.

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, we'll be right back, guys. We're gonna

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 2>do brown boost, brown break, brown boost brow all right. Test.

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 2>There's only one option tonight when you must brown boost.

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am going to brown boost. You know what,

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going to brown boost. So for the very

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>first time ever, I hosted something, so CBS News reached

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>out to me and they asked me to host something

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 1>about insurance fraud. And I've never been a host before

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.399
<v Speaker 1>where like I interviewed the experts, what do they say?

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, I'm a whole ass anchor.

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>It was so strange, okay, because insurance frog can be

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of boring, and they really they've reached out to

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>me because they were like, we want somebody who's gonna

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>jazz it up. And so it was so crazy. It

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 1>came on primetime Sunday morning, right after the mayor had

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like a live address and I came on right after.

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It was freakish because honestly, I didn't know. I never

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:00.840
<v Speaker 1>know if something's gonna be a deal. I never know

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>until the thing. And so it comes on and it's like,

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about an insurance fraud special with Tiffany the Budgetiesta.

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait what, Like I'm thinking, like, I'm

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 1>just part of the special, not the special. So yeah,

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it just honestly, it wore my little, my little brown heart.

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 2>And so you're reporting live from Newark, New Jersey, with

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the face Masacon, with like a burning building behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>No that was so cute to my dad's like will

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it be live? I'm like, daddy noo. But yeah, it

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was just cute to have my parents watch and just

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so you know, for them to be like, oh my goodness,

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>they just can't believe, you know, because for Africans, anything

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not a doctor, lawyer, engineer is a drug dealer.

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that I make drug dealer, so yeah,

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that was just as much as I've done. That was

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:54.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the cooler things because I'd never done anything

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, I've been like an expert on

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>a show or like whatever on the show, but to

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 1>literally like host and move things along and ask questions,

0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it just yeah, I have to say it was a

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>very very very cool experience, and you know, I felt

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 1>good about it.

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So that is my boost, all right, beautiful. My boost

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a couple different things. So one

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 2>thing is I'm going to Okay, fine, CALLI will do it,

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>because Calli is amazing, and they're going to hear this

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and they're going to go find the links. I'm going

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to send you the links CALLI to these two Google

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:30.000
<v Speaker 2>docs that contain resources for anyone looking to educate themselves

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.680
<v Speaker 2>about the long history of social injustice against black Americans

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>in our country. They are the like, instead of engaging

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>with any white person, any Becky or any Keith or

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>any Karen who tries to come to you and ask

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 2>you please, you know, help me understand, just put a

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 2>smile in your face and send them these links instead,

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 2>and just give yourself the day off. It's not our

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.919
<v Speaker 2>job to educate people. And these Google docs, I don't

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.479
<v Speaker 2>know who. They were curated by someone magical. I want

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 2>people to share them because I've shared them, and I've

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>heard from friends of mine who have taken advantage of

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>them and actually gone through them, which is beautiful. And

0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I have to go and tell

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you to go watch the documentary Thirteenth by Aba Duverne

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. It's awesome, So that

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll be in the show notes. Please take the burden

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 2>off yourself to explain to people what they can do

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>their own work to educate themselves on. And then next,

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you guys have seen by now there is this.

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 2>So I guess this boost is for my baby. I

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know just he deserves a boost. He's sleeping on

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 2>his own in his own room right now for the

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>first time ever. So he's on my heart. But there

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>is this clip of I guess this kid was like

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 2>on some reality show. But his name is Keidrin. Is

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>that how you say it? Kedrin Bryant k ee d

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 2>r O. Anyway, So Kedrin Bryant his mom, which I

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 2>think is also beautiful. So he's twelve year old, twelve

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>years old, young black boy, and he has a pretty

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 2>big platform because he's on this reality show. But his

0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 2>mother wrote this song and he sings these lyrics that

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 2>are so powerful and the line that ricochet is through

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<v Speaker 2>my head is I just want to live. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is such a beautiful song. He only posted like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds of it, but there's already like remixes and will

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<v Speaker 2>I will I Am did a remix.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. So I listened to it, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know sometime over the last few days solid blur. This

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<v Speaker 2>morning though I was listening to I was just I

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<v Speaker 2>had the Today Show one because I love me some

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Hoda and it's my little guilty pleasure. So I turn

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<v Speaker 2>on the Today Show and I was, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>the baby, and he was whatever and as and she

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<v Speaker 2>happened to have key drawn on the show with his

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<v Speaker 2>mom and they played a clip with that song and

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<v Speaker 2>my and Rio starts crying and I'm looking at him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first it's a funny thing. He starts to smile, he's

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<v Speaker 2>watching the TV, and then he starts to cry as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as Kedron gets to the line I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to live. And you know, I'm like, what is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this because of the song or is he just

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<v Speaker 2>like does this diper poopy or what's happening? So I

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<v Speaker 2>rewound it and I played it again, not because I'm mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but just I did it again. And every time he

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<v Speaker 2>got to that line, Rio just burst into tears, burst

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<v Speaker 2>in a tears. They know and he knows, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just I felt so much. It was just really powerful

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like my son is like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>he gets things and he's like every parent. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>my son is the most special baby ever and he's

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<v Speaker 2>so intelligent and so smart. But he's my constant reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that I have to do better and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>teach him. And to anyone, whether you're a parent or

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<v Speaker 2>not a parent, your an aunt, an uncle, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a child in your life, there is a responsibility, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do a big boost for anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>has helped raise beautiful humans who respect and love one another.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have got to do better. I think our generations,

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<v Speaker 2>I millennials like we okay, but we can do so

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<v Speaker 2>much better for the next generation. And I commend those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who are out there trying to be a

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<v Speaker 2>better example for our young people. It's it's exhausting to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, to have those conversations with children. Even Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you're talking to Supergirl about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's old enough to be there in social media and

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<v Speaker 2>to be exposed to all this. And I will just say,

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<v Speaker 2>give yourself grace to parents, aunties, uncles, god, parents, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>give yourself grace. There's no perfect way to help explain things,

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<v Speaker 2>but having that dialogue is so important, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that I just hope that one of the silver linings

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<v Speaker 2>here is that people do feel like they can have

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<v Speaker 2>those conversations at the dinner table. And it's so important

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<v Speaker 2>for us to tell our stories to our young people

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<v Speaker 2>and not let them hear whatever, you know, altered version

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<v Speaker 2>of the truth they're getting from social media or their

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<v Speaker 2>friends or you know, the media in general. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'll I think I'll stop it there because this

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<v Speaker 2>has been a very long episode and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>three classes of wine, and I need a force.

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<v Speaker 1>Like knowing that I was going to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chat with you today like I feel because I was

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<v Speaker 1>on one when I talk about you know that I

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<v Speaker 1>never understood that Drake song free smoke, free smoke, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>free smoke, girl, free smoke. I said, Oh, I'm Drake

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<v Speaker 1>up in this piece, free smoke. Who want the smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little annoyed that Instagram is not serving me

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<v Speaker 2>this budgeties to content because I'm like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>see these posts up in my feed. No, it's also

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<v Speaker 2>the Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I just this type of thing. Got It'll come up.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, I'm gonna catch up. Yes, So why you

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<v Speaker 2>have three hundred and twenty five thousand followers and you're

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<v Speaker 2>verified on install.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just you know what I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>please y'all, Please y'all, please y'all. I'm just gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>one minor break. It's just that there there are more

1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:44.960
<v Speaker 1>spam accounts that are pretending to be Budgenisa would like

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<v Speaker 1>the underscore before or after in the middle or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any underscores in my name. It's a scam,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel really bad because someone actually gave one

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<v Speaker 1>of the scam artist money. So they enter into your

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<v Speaker 1>DM say hey, this is Tiffany's private account because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to answer everything for my business this account,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they say something like, you know, I can

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<v Speaker 1>help you make money with bitcoin. I you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a company that I use. You know, for every thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars you invest, you get back eight thousand dollars something

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<v Speaker 1>to that effect. Hey, I you know, what's your phone number?

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<v Speaker 1>Are WhatsApp? You the link? And then they steal your money.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been There's literally like six accounts floating out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I'm not going to do any more

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<v Speaker 1>social posts about it because it just I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>I would just post every day. I only can say

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<v Speaker 1>that not just for me, but don't give anybody on

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<v Speaker 1>ig just random money. So folks have been messing g

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<v Speaker 1>me like is this you I'm like, it's not. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else to say honestly, other than.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, nont end well, okay, fine, interrupting, not to interrupt,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's exactly what I'm doing. My brother told me

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<v Speaker 2>because I was telling him I was going to donate

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<v Speaker 2>to a couple of there's these nonprofits that are legal

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<v Speaker 2>defense funds that you can donate to, and they use

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<v Speaker 2>the funds to bail people out who are arrested by

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<v Speaker 2>doing protests and things like that, and the Minnesota Freedom

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<v Speaker 2>and Fun was one that people were donating to. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother was like, well, be careful because some of

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<v Speaker 2>these funds are actually run by white supremacist groups and

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<v Speaker 2>who are diverting the funds. So you definitely want to

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<v Speaker 2>do your googles and do your research before you donate

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<v Speaker 2>to charities. And I'll shoot a couple of links to

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<v Speaker 2>include in our show notes of where you can start

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<v Speaker 2>to find some charities to donate to. Because Tiffany, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about you, but I've chosen not to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there protesting, and it kind of has been hard

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<v Speaker 2>because my sister, who's white and lives in Wisconsin, was

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<v Speaker 2>out there protesting, and my little brother, who lives in Atlanta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>was out there. He walked seven miles yesterday peaceful marching

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. I I don't know how to do it

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<v Speaker 2>in a safe enough way for my child, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't, and I fear for people who are there

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<v Speaker 2>protesting because the second wave of coronavirus, I just God,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it just be terrible, you know, to sicken our

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<v Speaker 2>people even more by protesting, you know. So I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been out there marching, although if I think if I

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<v Speaker 2>was a year ago, I definitely would have been. But

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I'm choosing is like using my platform

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about issues and then to donate to some causes.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, all this is to say that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to donate, pull out your wallet, be sure you

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<v Speaker 2>do your due diligence, and you're giving to the right groups,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the last thing you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is give money to someone who's not going to use

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<v Speaker 2>it for the right for the right reasons, the right cause.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what I've been because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>donate like a good amount of money, and I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to figure out, oh, what's a definite place

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<v Speaker 1>it's really going to go to help people? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'm going to look at those links because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing links. But that was my nervousness too.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I know, I don't want to give ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars and it's like this like crappy thing that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go to help anyone. I really honestly want to

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<v Speaker 1>give to people to get bailed out. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find like an organization that I'm like, oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>definitively and definitely build people out. Maybe you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do. I'm gonna Callbikate like she's my

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<v Speaker 1>friend who's an attorney. It helps out folks out like this.

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<v Speaker 1>If she'd is like, oh no, no, girl, this is legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'll do because I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>to your point that we're making putting our money where

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<v Speaker 1>we're really going to be helpful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. The platform that my company UH does charitable UH

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<v Speaker 2>does charitable donations through is called Brighter Funds or sorry

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<v Speaker 2>Bright Funds, and they have like a curated list of

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<v Speaker 2>nonprofits that you could donate to. But I will try

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<v Speaker 2>and give some good links so that wherever you are

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<v Speaker 2>in your because it's important to donate to like a

1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:32.080
<v Speaker 2>local organization too. National ones are very important a c

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<v Speaker 2>LU for sure, but also if you can just support

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<v Speaker 2>the local funds in your back in your backyard? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that even an expression? Whatever? Three glasses fine? Uh, that

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<v Speaker 2>will make you know a small difference in your community.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll include some links for you guys to check

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<v Speaker 2>out for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>WEREE smoke, Please smoke? Hey? Were smoke Please smoke? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>We leave it out on that