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Speaker 1: Honestly, I've just been like so angry. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: mostly people who are not of color, should read, can

428
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Speaker 2: read to educate themselves. Before you come to us and

429
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: ask us to do the work, give you the girl notes,

430
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: you know, spark notes, version of our history so that

431
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 2: you understand the deeper issue. And that's the next It's

432
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: like the rage, but then the exhaustion, and that's where

433
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: you hear people of color, like black people, we're fucking tired,

434
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: tired of having to be the ones on top of

435
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: our shit to explain to you the larger issue, the

436
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: fact that it's not just one man with the knee

437
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: in his neck. It's about decades, decades of complicity, decades

438
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: of law enforcement not being held accountable for treating some

439
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: people differently than others. And beyond that, forget decades, we're

440
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: talking about centuries of an entire race being being bloodied,

441
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: being bruised, being treated unfairly. And it's exhausting, And listen,

442
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm not We're not a history teacher. We're not here

443
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: to educate you. We need people who are willing to

444
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: do that work for themselves and not put that burden

445
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: on us. You know. Yeah, it's just and that's that's

446
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: what I've kind of like been getting.

447
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: I told myself that I was going to give myself, like,

448
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: you know, a week to kind of rage on it,

449
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: and then like this week, I really want to focus

450
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: on solutions, you know. That's why I was telling my team.

451
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I've been raging on Facebook and

452
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: Instagram a week.

453
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm tired.

454
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I need a place to constructively put this energy. And so,

455
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: like the teacher and me, like, whenever i'm like something

456
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: goes wrong or bad, the only thing that sets things

457
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: right with me is to be of service. It's literally

458
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: the only thing. Like, so I'm just like, Okay, what

459
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: can you do, Tiffany, How can you help? Who can

460
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: you help? How can you serve? And so I'm just

461
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: really like I'm creating like kind of like a three

462
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: point plan for myself of ways to serve, you know,

463
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: even more women, especially women of color, black women, creating

464
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: a plan of how I can serve especially black women

465
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: that have businesses So one of the things where I

466
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: did my first today kind of with like a friend

467
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: of ours, she mine, Oh you know her too, but

468
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: she has a small business and she had some struggles

469
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: with her team and trying to figure out, like, you know,

470
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: how best to be a leader. And so every Monday

471
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I have a lead team call with with my lead

472
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: team CFO, COO managers all of that, but really the

473
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: Monday's just mental health checking Mondays. So I've spoken about

474
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: before where I just check in. Like we talked a

475
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: lot about you know, like cause we're a largely black team,

476
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: so we talk like in black. I'm like, how y'all

477
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: doing we you know, like we have not minceed any

478
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: words about how we feel. People are telling us how

479
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: they joined marches and anyways. So she joined us today,

480
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: my business friend, and we were basically coaching her if

481
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Speaker 1: she had a finance question. My COFO was here. You've

482
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: got an organization oh question, My CEO is here. You've

483
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: got a question about content, my content managers here, you

484
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: got a question about about your online school, your online plub,

485
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: my literature academy managers here, you got a question about

486
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: leadership overall, I'm here. So it was just really it

487
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: felt really good to pour into another business that it's

488
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: on its way because because I posted this post that

489
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: I thought was so potent on my ig. It was

490
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: by this attorney named Takara, and Takara said that, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: part of the reasons why you've heard the you know,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm sure I meta you've heard like I think it

493
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: was a New York Times that did that article that said, like,

494
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: black women are the are the fastest growing population of

495
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Speaker 1: business owners of entrepreneurs.

496
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Speaker 2: It was like it was Forbes, Yeahbes, Yeah, of course, yeah,

497
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and so.

498
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Speaker 1: So to Car wrote that part of the reason why

499
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Speaker 1: there's such a surch in black owned businesses and black

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: women being the number one group of rising entrepreneurs is

501
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: the blatant bias and racism we experience in corporate America.

502
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: Your best talent is leaving in droves because you won't

503
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: kill the cancer of racism in your leadership. You won't

504
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: give us raises due to pettiness and gossip. We worked

505
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: twice as hard to get half the pay, but outwork

506
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: and outwit almost everyone. Economic freedom is one of the

507
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: ways that we're going to get free and financial boycott

508
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: move the white populace's hand. When the kettle of racial

509
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: injustice broiled over in Martin's day, Remember he marched and

510
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: that's basically shut down that bus, that bus company that

511
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: was racist to black folks. Right, so she writes, people

512
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: claim that our needing and seeking out black owned institutions

513
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: to support is racist. It's not its survival. Your coaching

514
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: programs want black money, but do not want black pain

515
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: and black problems. You do not realize it's your problem too.

516
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: We see you. We are tired. We demand more than

517
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: you're telling us to wait for justice. Your status is

518
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: of This is not the way fall on deaf ears

519
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: after seeing so much death, Once you feel the knee

520
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: of the black dollar on your neck, you will cry

521
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: out and gas for air. That's the only way, folks, listen.

522
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: It is the only thing that moves governments and societies

523
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: as a whole, the almighty dollar. I can attest to

524
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: ninety percent of my team are black women, and they

525
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: are almost all of them corporate refugees, people who have

526
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: fled corporate America because of the abuse, the mistreatment, the

527
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: overlooking of their skills and talent. And they've come here, weary, abused,

528
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: and scared at first. It takes them a few months

529
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: to realize it's real here, that we do care about

530
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: what you think and say. You are in charge here,

531
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: you have autonomy. Here, I trust that you know what

532
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: you're doing. I don't double check and nitpick that you

533
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: run this company. Here, that we actually serve women that

534
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: look like you with integrity and kindness, it's real and

535
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: it takes the months to acclimate to that. And honestly,

536
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: it's the loss of corporate America. Racism means you lose too,

537
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: because these amazing women that literally were pushed out, you know,

538
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: or dragged out of their past positions have helped me

539
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: to grow a seven figure a month a month company.

540
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: So think about that, this small but mighty team. How

541
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: is it that in four years, like one of the

542
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: company that makes its eight figures a year, we've done

543
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: that in four years with the team of women were

544
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: there're places where they were before folks told them that

545
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: they weren't quite good enough. What a loss for them,

546
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: But honestly, they're not deserving of these amazing women. And

547
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: it just like a light bulb went on and something said,

548
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I want to help other folks like me to create

549
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: environments for us, because when I posted that on Takar's

550
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: message on Instagram, what really instantly hurt me and hit

551
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: me was the messages of so many women who are like,

552
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in a place like that. Now they're basically

553
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: choking me, like I'm dying here, Like so many women,

554
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I just randomly quit. I couldn't take it anymore. Someone

555
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know, are you hiring? I would love

556
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: to come work for you. And I wish I had

557
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: a billion dollars so I could scoop up all the

558
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: all the sisters that needed. But I thought, well, I

559
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: don't need to. What if I could help other people

560
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: to be financially successful enough and to help them create

561
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: environments for folks like us, a safe space to grow,

562
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: learn and to love working. And so that's what I've

563
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: committed myself to do, is we're going to figure or

564
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: what that kind of mentorship looks like. So, you know,

565
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: because I want to be I just I don't want

566
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: to just be angry. You know, I don't mind the anger,

567
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to filter it towards solutions.

568
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: And that's definitely one of the ones I've been thinking about.

569
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't. I don't know how to. Also,

570
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: people are going to ask hipy oh girl, do me

571
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, honestly, I haven't figured out what

572
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: that program looks like. But I need something. I need solutions.

573
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't like I said, I don't want to just

574
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: be angry.

575
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: You need the liverag or challenge for businesses. What you

576
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: need and you'll do it. And Tiffany, what you've done

577
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: and what you've built, You've already done so much. You

578
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: have you are putting food on the table for the

579
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: families of black women who can go to work and

580
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: not feel like they need to hide who they are,

581
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: like me often, and who don't feel when they come

582
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: to work they have to pretend like things aren't bothering them,

583
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: that's happening, or like that means so much. And for me,

584
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to be a refugee from

585
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: the corporate world anytime soon. And for me, and for

586
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: people I would say who have risen to a level

587
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: of leadership in corporate America feel this. I feel this

588
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: responsibility with the position I am in. Somehow I got here?

589
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: Who cares? How?

590
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I know?

591
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: In part it was because I was endorsed by a

592
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: respect in why man, who I love a lot. He's amazing.

593
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: But I'm in this position and I feel a responsibility

594
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: to be the budgetista in my company, and I feel

595
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: my responsibility now. I'm not naive. Do I think I'll

596
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: be here forever? Probably not. I know I'm talented, I

597
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: have other ambitions. But I want to say, and not

598
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: to be corny, but you hear that Beyonce song, I

599
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: was here. I want to be able to say I

600
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: was here and what I did mattered and I made

601
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: an impact and I don't feel like I can leave

602
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: until I have done that. But at the same time,

603
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: I did have to come to work today, which your

604
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: employees did not have to do, and check myself before

605
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I acknowledge what's happening in the world and get I

606
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: felt like I needed buy in from someone else on

607
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: my team, and I did it. But then, of course

608
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: to have the CEO's support that meant something as well.

609
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: But I say all this to say that for those

610
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: of you who are working for companies, I think now

611
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: it is a time for you to stand up and

612
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: speak to your colleagues. It seems like something has shifted

613
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: in the way that people are being open to hearing

614
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: from us right now. So use this opportunity. Speak up,

615
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: use your voice, you know, use it to your advantage.

616
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Ask for the recognition that you deserve. Bring up the

617
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: fact that, well, okay, this is what's happening in the

618
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: larger world, but what's happening in our company is that

619
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: we I've noticed in what position you have that there

620
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: is pay inequity along racial lines. Like use whatever platform

621
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: you have to create change in your small pocket, wherever

622
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: you fall on the corporate ladder, because I know so

623
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: many of you guys are out there, and I can't

624
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: wait till the world is filled, full fold filled with

625
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: budget needs to inks, and I feel like we can

626
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: definitely get there, but we need Unfortunately, the reality is

627
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: that we need non black business leaders because they are

628
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: the majority to feel our pain and hear us and

629
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: think that our cause is worthwhile. And I sincerely hope

630
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: that you know those this does not end here, and

631
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I hope that it continues and we have to hold

632
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: our business leaders accountable. Ask those questions at your town halls.

633
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Send the anonymous you know notes to your your companies.

634
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: You know they always have these like comment boxes or

635
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: whatever ask the tough questions, acknowledge that there's inequities, and

636
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: hold your leaders accountable because if you were afraid to

637
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: do it before, I think now there is something shifting

638
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: and there is an opportunity for you to do it now.

639
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted now, but I uh, yeah, I that's all.

640
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: I that's all. I that's all.

641
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: No, it's it's a lot, yeah, And I just I'm

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Speaker 1: just glad that there's a place to like express that here.

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Speaker 1: And you guys, like, you know, come along with the

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Speaker 1: r for.

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Speaker 2: Brown ambition, Thank God, because what if bron ambition mean

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Speaker 2: like this is it? It's the fact that brown ambition

647
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Speaker 2: is different. You need to want it even more. You

648
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Speaker 2: need to fight for it even more. You need to

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Speaker 2: have bigger balls than everybody else, because you have to

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Speaker 2: go in there thinking with the Just today, I was

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Speaker 2: talking to someone on my team and I was like,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about tackling a new project that neither

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Speaker 2: of us had much experience in, and I was like, listen, today,

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Speaker 2: my name is Mark and your name is Ian and

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Speaker 2: we are going to approach this project with the confidence

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Speaker 2: of a mediocre white man. Because the mediocre white man

657
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Speaker 2: has never been told or has no one assuming that

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Speaker 2: they're not good at something. So let's just pretend today

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Speaker 2: that we're that person. I'll be Mark, you be Ian,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to kill this because you know what, dude,

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Speaker 2: we can do it, you know. And it's sad, but

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Speaker 2: it's true. And yeah, I just feel I something shifting.

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Speaker 2: I support the anger, fuck the looters, like I don't

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Speaker 2: support anyone burning out businesses. That it's unnecessary and it's

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking to see that, but like we can't get distracted

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Speaker 2: by that. People are always gonna commit crimes. Forget about looting.

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of people, all races right now.

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Speaker 1: There's so many folks that have infiltrated pretending to be

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Speaker 1: yet I've seen that over and over. They're like, you

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Speaker 1: know that so many folks, And it happened in Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: but people were ignoring it and like, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't as much video proof. But now

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Speaker 1: we're seeing video at the video after video where we're like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's not brown folks looting, that's not

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Speaker 1: brown folks walking out, you know. And it's so crazy

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Speaker 1: because there was a woman who was calmly walking out

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Speaker 1: of I forget what it was, what store it was,

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Speaker 1: like Gucci or whatever, with all the stuff in her hand,

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Speaker 1: and the news anchor while she's talking about the other

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Speaker 1: looters saying, oh my goodness, here's a woman come up.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's an employee, of course, because she's a white woman,

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Speaker 1: so she can't possibly be looting. Imagine maybe she's an

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Speaker 1: employee walking through the glass and the rubble with clothes

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Speaker 1: on her hand, leaving. So it's just I'm here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: like I I I don't care about that. I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know what it's like to,

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Speaker 1: you know, have a storefront and for it to be

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Speaker 1: broken into. But I assume that's what insurance is for.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, he'll be fine, exactly. And here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that I think that as much as everyone's saying,

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Speaker 1: it's like I have my my three my four year

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Speaker 1: old nephew, Roman nephew was over yesterday and he was

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Speaker 1: trying to get my attention, but I didn't notice. So

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Speaker 1: he said, Auntie, Auntie, Auntie. I didn't hear him. I

695
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Speaker 1: was talking to my sister Auntie. Next thing I know,

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Speaker 1: Roman goes to the table and pushes my pushes something

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Speaker 1: like I had like my phone on the ground and

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm like, Robert, what are you doing? He said, Auntie,

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Speaker 1: I was asking you. That's what people do. You ignore,

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Speaker 1: you ignore, you ignore, then you'll feel. And so that's

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Speaker 1: where we are now that folks have spoken, they have Neil,

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Speaker 1: they have Marsh, they have done all the things. The

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Speaker 1: only reason why the world is listening now is because

704
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: the world is burning. And so I am like you know.

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Speaker 3: And it had to burn again and again and again,

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Speaker 3: and it took so many George Floyd's and it's happening

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Speaker 3: every day off camera. Yes, and that's it's any depressing thing, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I wanted to share really quick something and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to make this point because it's so important. We

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Speaker 2: just got an absentee ballot for our local elections this summer,

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Speaker 2: and I want to say is this is a quote

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Speaker 2: from Barack Obama's email that he sent out, his statement

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Speaker 2: that he made in response to what's going on right now.

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Speaker 2: And I want people to get this because this is

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Speaker 2: why it matters, not forget who the president is. Yes

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Speaker 2: it matters, Yes we must vote in November, but it

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Speaker 2: is the smaller elections that truly matter, So, as Obama says,

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Speaker 2: it's mayors and county executives that appoint most police chiefs

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Speaker 2: and negotiate collective bargaining agreements with police unions. It's district

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Speaker 2: attorneys and states attorneys that decide whether or not to

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Speaker 2: investigate and ultimately charge those involved in police misconduct. Those

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Speaker 2: who are those are all elected positions. In some places,

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Speaker 2: police review boards with the power to monitor police conduct

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Speaker 2: are elected as well. But unfortunately, voter turnout in these

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Speaker 2: local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people,

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Speaker 2: which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices

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Speaker 2: have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact

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Speaker 2: that who wins and who loses those seats is often

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Speaker 2: determined by just a few thousand or even a few

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Speaker 2: hundred votes. You guys have got This is the end

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Speaker 2: of the quote, y'all. This is me saying this is

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Speaker 2: maybe y'all have got to vote in the non headline

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Speaker 2: elections because that shit matters, and I can't. We need

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Speaker 2: to make sure that people understand that in our communities,

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Speaker 2: especially young people. That's where we can start shifting things.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to run for president, run for your

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: local city government that matters, that impacts people's lives locally

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Speaker 2: where you are exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think that we need basically yeah, because you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's the local election and that's what folks are counting on,

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Speaker 1: that people won't be oh where during those times. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just tired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you guys have information to be tired. We're

744
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Speaker 2: tired af but we're here and I'm so glad to

745
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Speaker 2: be doing this podcast with you. We couldn't. We need

746
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: to be here. We need to make people. We need

747
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: to share our experiences with people because they're having the

748
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Speaker 2: same experiences themselves. And you guys have been sending notes

749
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Speaker 2: to Brand Ambition and to me on my ig account.

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Speaker 2: Continue sending us notes, send us emails. We're going to

751
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: take a couple of questions in the next segment of

752
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Speaker 2: the show, as we always do, we want to hear

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Speaker 2: from you guys. We want to hear what you're experiencing.

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Speaker 2: What is it like for you at work today, What

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00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: is it like for you in your small business? What's happening.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like things are shifting? How are you

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Speaker 2: feeling feel like we're a safe space for you? To

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Speaker 2: come to I certainly feel that way. I may not have,

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Speaker 2: you know, I may not have the support that people

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Speaker 2: on the budgets this team have at my job every day,

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Speaker 2: but I know I can come to you each week

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Speaker 2: Monday or Tuesday or whenever we decide to record, and

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Speaker 2: I'll have someone who understands what I'm going through and

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Speaker 2: that that means something. Should we just end the show there,

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Speaker 2: Let's take questions. That's what I come from. When I'm

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Speaker 2: saying I'm excited, it's just like, okay, finally, it's almost like, okay, cool,

767
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit back and let the white people debate.

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Speaker 2: How you know terrible? This is like, y'all got it?

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Speaker 2: You know, educate yourselves is cool. Everyone else should be talking.

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Speaker 2: All right, but let's take a couple of questions. We'll

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Speaker 2: take a quick break and be right back with questions.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we are back again. You can shoot

773
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Speaker 2: us your questions on Instagram. Our Instagram handle is brand Ambition.

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Speaker 2: You can also hit us up on email at broad

775
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com dot com. All right,

776
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: so this is actually a good question. This comes from

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Speaker 2: a listener from Instagram, and when I saw this question.

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Speaker 2: I immediately responded and I said, yes, we will take

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Speaker 2: your question. She She says, Hey, Madian Tiffany, I love

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Speaker 2: the podcast and Kate wait to listen every Wednesday. I

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Speaker 2: have a question and would like to remain anonymous. I'm

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Speaker 2: currently in an interim role at work and just interviewed

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Speaker 2: for a permanent position. I work at a university and

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Speaker 2: budgets have been shrinking. Even still, my predecessor earned twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars more than I am, and they had

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Speaker 2: a doctorate which I'm in the process of finishing. Do

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Speaker 2: you think, if offered the position, it's wise to negotiate

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a pandemic or should I just

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Speaker 2: be grateful and take what's offered? Can you guess what

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Speaker 2: we're going to say to you? I had good question,

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Speaker 2: right right right. Don't let a pandemic get in your way.

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Speaker 2: It's not They're going to find a vaccine. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be okay. And also, you know what's hard, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to ask for more during a pandemic as an employee.

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Speaker 2: It's also hard to hire during a pandemic, okay, because

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Speaker 2: not like companies are either. If you're not laying off

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Speaker 2: people you may be in the middle of a hiring freeze,

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Speaker 2: which means if you have someone who is eager and

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Speaker 2: talented like yourself at this job, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: want to lose you that person because you may not

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Speaker 2: be able to rehire that position. So you have more

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Speaker 2: power than you might think than you do. And one

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Speaker 2: thousand percent, I think you should negotiate forget the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I absolutely agree that negotiating what you're worth

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Speaker 1: is because I think many you said it in a

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Speaker 1: podcast earlier that it's not just this time, that it's

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Speaker 1: going to set the stage for when you get paid

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Speaker 1: the time after, the time after, the time after. You

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Speaker 1: know that you know that you're Typically salaries are built

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Speaker 1: upon like the salaries from before. So if you don't

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Speaker 1: get if you don't get your twenty five thousand, then

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Speaker 1: you know next time. Let's just say, as a woman,

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Speaker 1: you're already getting less anyway, and it's five thousand less,

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Speaker 1: it's really not five thousand less, it's thirty thousand dollars less.

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Speaker 1: It's a compounding problem. So going for what you're worth,

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Speaker 1: people are always going to try to give you less.

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Speaker 1: I am actually kind of like I we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this earlier Mayda about like how I kind of

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Speaker 1: blew the lid up. Well, I didn't even tell you

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Speaker 1: I blew the liddle off. I was just like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna blow the little fin Con.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of it. The founder of fincinn posted some

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Speaker 1: really insensitive tweets, and I think, you know what, because

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Speaker 1: people were like, oh, you know, don't crucify.

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Speaker 2: Him for these few me tell the folks for fin

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Speaker 2: con is if they're not familiar.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a it's a big financial educator's conference.

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Speaker 1: That's actually where me and manager met. Well no, well

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Speaker 1: we met kind of just because you did a story

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Speaker 1: on me, but in person, right, But in person we went.

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Speaker 1: It was the Finncon in New Orleans. It was like

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful city anyway. So yeah, so big financial conference,

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Speaker 1: lots of literally thousands of people go. It's actually a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. But I started to notice some changes

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Speaker 1: I didn't really like. The founder is a big, huge

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Speaker 1: supporter of Heisha who shall not be named it's forty five,

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Speaker 1: which I'm like, okay, but some of the things that

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Speaker 1: he would tweet, because I'm you know, I'm an elevate

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Speaker 1: which is a brown inclusive group for financial educator. So

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a fincon Facebook group which I'm a

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Speaker 1: part of, but then there's this brown Brown Elevate group

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Speaker 1: that I'm also proud of. So basically it's everyone non

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Speaker 1: white male in that group. That's when we have Asian folks,

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Speaker 1: we have Spanish folks. It's great. And so we would

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Speaker 1: share those tweets and be like, yeah, this makes me

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Speaker 1: really uncofortable, and people would share stories, but every everything

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Speaker 1: was always hush hush. But someone from the group, Tasha,

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Speaker 1: who I don't know, she's got like balls of steel,

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Speaker 1: posted some of his tweets today in the FINCN group

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Speaker 1: and said, let's discuss this ain't okay. And so it

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Speaker 1: was the leaded and she said, ha ha, actually I

852
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: think my post was deleted. Let's discuss this ain't okay.

853
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: And so people started to talk about it in the

854
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: comments and then story started to come out of previous

855
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: bad behavior and I wasn't gonna say anything, but I'm like,

856
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: why are you not saying something, Tiffany. Why is it

857
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: that we always get to be quiet? So I was like,

858
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you know what, earlier this year or like late last year,

859
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: I was asked to do a keynote for fin Con.

860
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I mentioned this before, but I didn't say it was

861
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: fin Con because I guess. I don't know. If I

862
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: was afraid, I don't know. I just didn't feel like

863
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: the smoke. But I want the smoke now. And I

864
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: was offered two hundred. Oh no, I was offered twenty

865
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: five hundred, which is egregiously low. So much so like literally,

866
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: churches pay me more. They will take a collection and

867
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: pay more, and especially knowing that other other white men

868
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: from years ago were paid up to fifty thousand dollars

869
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred for Tiffany, fifty thousand for a white man,

870
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: And we are you talking to me about? So I

871
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: reached out to you, Manny, Yes we did. I was like, Pandy,

872
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: can you find out what other folks? So I reached

873
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: out to everyone to find out what other folks were paid,

874
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: just so to see if I'm my bucket. And people

875
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: were like, literally, I got a list from someone who

876
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: was like this person twenty thousand, this present thirty, this

877
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: person fifty, this person forty, and then Tiffany twenty five.

878
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: And there was another sister who spoke at fin con

879
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: and I said, let me reach out to her keynote,

880
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: let me reach out to her. She was paid thirty

881
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: five hundred. So there's a clear pattern here. And so

882
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: I posted it in that thread and then I posted

883
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter and it's probably went viral and yeah, and

884
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: then instead of saying oops, my bad, he came back

885
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: and doubled down. It was like, actually, that's not the deal.

886
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: We approached Tiffany with. We said we would buy a thousand,

887
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: two thousand of her new books Happy Birthday Molly Moore

888
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: for three thousand and fifty cents. Meanwhile, me and I

889
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: told him it cost me five dollars just to print

890
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: the book. So you offer so I can lose two

891
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: dollars in every book? I'm sorry, how is that? And

892
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: he was like, that's seven thousand dollars right there, oh,

893
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: seven thousand that you give me, while I come at

894
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: five thousand out of my pocket. Got it? And then

895
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: thank you pay and that he offered that. I said,

896
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, before he gave me his number,

897
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I could totally bring three

898
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: hundred Dream Catchers to fin Conn. They would love to come,

899
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: and you know they would pay. And he was like, oh, okay, great,

900
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: we will. Finn Conn in general has a affiliate program

901
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: you bring like a certain group of people you get

902
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: basically you earn some of the money that was given

903
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: to fin Con, and he put it in this offer

904
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: that that would be some of my money. So he's

905
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: telling me my pay is going to come from the

906
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: money I give him. So I'm going to give you

907
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and you gonna give me back twenty

908
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: five hundred? What in the and the fact what was

909
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: so crazy to me is that he shared a screenshot

910
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: of the email he sent like, oh no, we didn't

911
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: just offer tifany twenty five hundred. We offered her even

912
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: these work. I had not I would say, I'm not

913
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: evn gonna fully play him. I had not even shared

914
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: the full egregiousness of the offer, but he shared it,

915
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, do you even see how crazy

916
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: this is? And you still have yet to address what

917
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: were other people paid. So someone was like, so she

918
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: was right, you offered her twenty five hundred dollars. You

919
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: on top of that, you offered her for her to

920
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: have a loss on the books that you were going

921
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: to quote unquote buying and then on top of that,

922
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: you also offered her to a piece of her And

923
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: I told him distinctly, like me, bringing my audience doesn't

924
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: benefit me, it benefits your bottom line and your full diversity,

925
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: like because you know my artist is going to be

926
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: largely black women that come. And so someone just actually

927
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: messaged me today, another woman, another woman of color, was like, girl,

928
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: you better than me. He offered you twenty five hundred

929
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: years ago. He offered me a Starbucks card and some

930
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: and some book sales. I'm like, no, he didn't. Not

931
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: a Starbucks card, not a Star Wars card. Can you imagine?

932
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: So the lid is being blown off, and I mean

933
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: it's time and so many women like literally messages me

934
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: like I have stories too, and I'm afraid to say,

935
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to speak up for myself and even I'm

936
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, even with my platform now I feel

937
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: I was nervous to say, and I was like, well, Tifny,

938
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: what can he do to you? Like, I mean, is

939
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: he gonna tell Dreamcatchers on follow Tiffany? But still there's

940
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: a nervousness about standing up for yourself. And I to

941
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: bring it back to the question, asked that if we

942
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: don't stand up for ourselves. Then who then when you

943
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: know that had maybe someone said something earlier, wouldn't have

944
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: happened to me, And had maybe I not maybe, had

945
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe I said something earlier, I wouldn't have had it

946
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: happen to someone else. And it's like, I just don't

947
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: want to be afraid to say when something is wrong.

948
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I mean sometimes it is hard,

949
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: But I want us to practice as women, as brown

950
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: ambition folks, to stand up and say we deserve this,

951
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: and to say when something thing is wrong, because enough

952
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: is enough already.

953
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: And also it's unfortunate, but in this position you you

954
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: were in, it's fortunate that you were in a position

955
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: to be able to turn down such an offer and

956
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: expose it for what it is, so that the next

957
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: person who comes behind you. Now, I don't know if

958
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: they will be ginning people behind you because of what's

959
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: happened on Twitter. I've caught up since you told me

960
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: about it. Now, I who knows, we'll come after you,

961
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: But at least it'll make the runners of this conference

962
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: think twice before they try and short change somebody who's

963
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: worth so much more and try to make assumptions about someone.

964
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: You have to know your own value and sometimes it

965
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: is hard. You have to like, you have to do

966
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: the power pose, you have to talk, you have to

967
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: prot you know, to right, I give myself the white

968
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: man name. I'm like today I'm gonna be Mark and

969
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to go in. I'm going to destroy this

970
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: bro because like we can do it. You need to

971
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: pack yourself up in that way because unfortunately, what society

972
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: has told us is that oh, you're a woman, you're

973
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: a person of color. You know, things aren't there's not

974
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: it's not unfairness out there. It's just that they're better

975
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: than you and you're just not as talented. And that's

976
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: not fucking true. It's a lie. It's a lie that

977
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: we've been sold to justify the success of other people

978
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: for doing less work because they are privilege in ways

979
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: that were not. And I'm glad that you spoke up.

980
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: And that's just another reason why. Yes, this is pain

981
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: and it's heartbreaking that a man had to be stolen

982
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: from his family and God, I pray that the people

983
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: who were responsible, including the man who held his need

984
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: to that to George Floyd's neck, I hope I pray

985
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: that they are held accountable. But at the same time, Ugh,

986
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: so many people have had to perish, and I just

987
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: hope that their deaths are not in vain and we

988
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: really finally start to see some change. Like dear God,

989
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: we need we need meaningful results from this. We need

990
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: those lives to matter. They do matter, but we need

991
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: them to matter in their deaths as well. And I hope,

992
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: and you may it's a small you know, a small win,

993
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: but I just hope that in some way, by encouraging

994
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: people like you, Tiffany, to speak out about how you've

995
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: been impacted in the world and other people, that we

996
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: will see some real, some real progress. There needs to

997
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 2: be an acknowledgment that the starting line is not the same.

998
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: It's not it is not the same. Fuck your bootstraps.

999
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: You have gold bootstraps if you're born into this world,

1000
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: white and male, Okay, and it's it gets less the

1001
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: bootstraps get less nice from there. Okay, I don't even

1002
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: know what a bootstrap is. I'm just taking this, you know,

1003
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: it's on American terminology and just trying to you know.

1004
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: What, just it. What's so frustrating is that And because

1005
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: like I said, I honestly didn't want to say, but

1006
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: I said, Tiffany, you are you are in a position

1007
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: of privilege honestly when it comes to this, that like,

1008
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: there's very little that can be done to you, at

1009
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: least from him, because I mean what he could tell

1010
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: a brand, Hey, brands, if you want to work with me,

1011
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: don't work with Tiffany. I'm good. I actually make literally

1012
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: ninety percent of my money from the people that I serve.

1013
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: And I did that on purpose. I was very conscious

1014
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: when I started the Budgetissa that I didn't want. I

1015
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: wanted that I earned my money from my from the

1016
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: very community that I promised to serve, and that if

1017
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: the only way I can mess that up is to

1018
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: not be a good steward of my service, and then

1019
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: I would deserve to lose dreamcatchers not following me or

1020
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: not not you know, not not patronizing my business. I

1021
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: would deserve that. So I really had to run through it.

1022
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Like Tiffany, everyone can't say, girl, but you can say,

1023
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: because what's what's he gonna do. He's gonna call own

1024
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: and be like, saw you had a Tiffany on own?

1025
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Don't do that no more like you on black ball me.

1026
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm black already, Like there's no. And honestly, when I

1027
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: looked at the thread of everyone that he reached out

1028
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: to about, like you know, basically he was like kind

1029
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: of like battling against everyone and it was like, hey,

1030
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: tiff would love, would love to chat with you. Hey,

1031
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: tif The tone totally changed, and I know why because

1032
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: he's like, yikes, she's not the one, the two, or

1033
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: the three, because Tiffany, there's bullying that can really happen here.

1034
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Not really, Like I said, even if he kicks me out,

1035
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going back to Fankard. It's a rap for that,

1036
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: and so you know, but I just thought, like, Timmy,

1037
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: this is why you have to say something. And this

1038
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: is what with everyone in positions of privilege, it's not

1039
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: supposed to be easy. That's why I told myself. I'm like, Oh,

1040
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: you're scared, you're nervous, you don't want to smoke today,

1041
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: you feel like you don't want to get in the mix. Yes,

1042
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly how you're supposed to feel. And you're supposed

1043
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: to do it anyway because if you don't, there are

1044
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: people whose platforms are not as big that that genuinely

1045
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: would be negatively impacted if they went against him, that's

1046
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: not you, Tiffany. You know, you're just feeling a little uncomfortable,

1047
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: and so that's why that's what because I was, I'm

1048
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: telling you, I vacillated, like I don't know if I

1049
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: should say. I don't know if I should say. But

1050
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: when I tell you, Mandy, how many hundreds of tweets

1051
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: people sent me, I didn't even you know, I just

1052
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: to me, it's just me, my sisters, my mom, my dad,

1053
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: and like like my three friends. So I don't really

1054
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: look outside of myself. It's just me at home. But

1055
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: so many tweets of people being like what you but

1056
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: to you're the reason so many people say, you're the

1057
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: reason why I started teaching financial education. I'm talking about

1058
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: women of every shade and color and hue. You know,

1059
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: my heart was so full, like Tiffany, you this happened

1060
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: to you, and I thought, this is why you had

1061
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: to say something, Tiffany, because people need to know that

1062
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: no one is exempt if we don't say anything. I

1063
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't realize the impact that, like with what I had

1064
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: grown had, I mean, I know on my audience, but

1065
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I didn't realize on the financial community as a whole.

1066
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: Just looking at some of the comments. It's just really,

1067
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: like I said, wore, how many women were like yo,

1068
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: I started teaching financial education because of you. Yo, Tiffany,

1069
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: You're my mentor in my head. You know, you're my

1070
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: best friend in my head. That came up over and

1071
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: over because you know I'm crazy, and so everyone's just like, yeah,

1072
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: it's just I made the right decision. It's not easy.

1073
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be some backlash and I'm still vacillating

1074
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: and fight even take the call. I don't. To me,

1075
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: there's no excuse for it. But I'm like, well, maybe

1076
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for him to learn and grow. I

1077
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about. I also want to

1078
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: protect my piece, so I'm also not looking to be

1079
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: further aggravated. But yeah, it just we have to say something.

1080
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: We have to say something enough of the silence. Silence

1081
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: emboldens people and makes something they can continue to abuse others.

1082
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: No more.

1083
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but you made a good point. It's protecting

1084
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: your peace and it's deciding when to engage and when

1085
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: to pull back. And each of us has to make

1086
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: the decision for ourselves. And it's fine if today you

1087
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: decided to put your head under a pillow and not

1088
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: engage with the world, and you have no idea what

1089
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: happened to the news. That's fine. I feel like we're

1090
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: all entitled to cope and handle it in our own way,

1091
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy that you chose this moment to

1092
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: speak out. But I also want to acknowledge the fact

1093
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: that some people are just so tired and they don't

1094
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: have And it's like you said, we have to speak

1095
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: out because we are in a place of privilege for

1096
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: whatever reason, and there are people who are too tired

1097
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: and can't take the risk who are out there and

1098
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: that's why you do what you do, and it's definitely

1099
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: why I do what I do as well, and that's

1100
00:55:54,560 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: a privilege in itself. Thank God for this show. Okay,

1101
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: what do we even do now? Do we want to

1102
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: do a brown boost?

1103
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do want to take a break. I want

1104
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 1: to do a brown boost.

1105
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll be right back, guys. We're gonna

1106
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: do brown boost, brown break, brown boost brow all right. Test.

1107
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: There's only one option tonight when you must brown boost.

1108
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I am going to brown boost. You know what,

1109
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to brown boost. So for the very

1110
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: first time ever, I hosted something, so CBS News reached

1111
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: out to me and they asked me to host something

1112
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: about insurance fraud. And I've never been a host before

1113
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: where like I interviewed the experts, what do they say?

1114
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm a whole ass anchor.

1115
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: It was so strange, okay, because insurance frog can be

1116
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of boring, and they really they've reached out to

1117
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: me because they were like, we want somebody who's gonna

1118
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: jazz it up. And so it was so crazy. It

1119
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: came on primetime Sunday morning, right after the mayor had

1120
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: like a live address and I came on right after.

1121
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: It was freakish because honestly, I didn't know. I never

1122
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: know if something's gonna be a deal. I never know

1123
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: until the thing. And so it comes on and it's like,

1124
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: let's talk about an insurance fraud special with Tiffany the Budgetiesta.

1125
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: I was like, wait what, Like I'm thinking, like, I'm

1126
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: just part of the special, not the special. So yeah,

1127
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: it just honestly, it wore my little, my little brown heart.

1128
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: And so you're reporting live from Newark, New Jersey, with

1129
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: the face Masacon, with like a burning building behind you.

1130
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: No that was so cute to my dad's like will

1131
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: it be live? I'm like, daddy noo. But yeah, it

1132
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: was just cute to have my parents watch and just

1133
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: so you know, for them to be like, oh my goodness,

1134
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: they just can't believe, you know, because for Africans, anything

1135
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: that's not a doctor, lawyer, engineer is a drug dealer.

1136
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that I make drug dealer, so yeah,

1137
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: that was just as much as I've done. That was

1138
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: one of the cooler things because I'd never done anything

1139
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I've been like an expert on

1140
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: a show or like whatever on the show, but to

1141
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: literally like host and move things along and ask questions,

1142
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: it just yeah, I have to say it was a

1143
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: very very very cool experience, and you know, I felt

1144
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: good about it.

1145
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: So that is my boost, all right, beautiful. My boost

1146
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: is going to be a couple different things. So one

1147
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: thing is I'm going to Okay, fine, CALLI will do it,

1148
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: because Calli is amazing, and they're going to hear this

1149
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: and they're going to go find the links. I'm going

1150
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: to send you the links CALLI to these two Google

1151
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: docs that contain resources for anyone looking to educate themselves

1152
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: about the long history of social injustice against black Americans

1153
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: in our country. They are the like, instead of engaging

1154
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: with any white person, any Becky or any Keith or

1155
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: any Karen who tries to come to you and ask

1156
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: you please, you know, help me understand, just put a

1157
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: smile in your face and send them these links instead,

1158
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: and just give yourself the day off. It's not our

1159
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: job to educate people. And these Google docs, I don't

1160
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 2: know who. They were curated by someone magical. I want

1161
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: people to share them because I've shared them, and I've

1162
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: heard from friends of mine who have taken advantage of

1163
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: them and actually gone through them, which is beautiful. And

1164
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I have to go and tell

1165
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: you to go watch the documentary Thirteenth by Aba Duverne

1166
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. It's awesome, So that

1167
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: I'll be in the show notes. Please take the burden

1168
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: off yourself to explain to people what they can do

1169
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: their own work to educate themselves on. And then next,

1170
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys have seen by now there is this.

1171
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: So I guess this boost is for my baby. I

1172
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: don't know just he deserves a boost. He's sleeping on

1173
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: his own in his own room right now for the

1174
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: first time ever. So he's on my heart. But there

1175
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: is this clip of I guess this kid was like

1176
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: on some reality show. But his name is Keidrin. Is

1177
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: that how you say it? Kedrin Bryant k ee d

1178
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: r O. Anyway, So Kedrin Bryant his mom, which I

1179
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: think is also beautiful. So he's twelve year old, twelve

1180
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: years old, young black boy, and he has a pretty

1181
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: big platform because he's on this reality show. But his

1182
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: mother wrote this song and he sings these lyrics that

1183
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: are so powerful and the line that ricochet is through

1184
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: my head is I just want to live. And it

1185
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: is such a beautiful song. He only posted like fifty

1186
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: seconds of it, but there's already like remixes and will

1187
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: I will I Am did a remix.

1188
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw it.

1189
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. So I listened to it, I don't

1190
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: know sometime over the last few days solid blur. This

1191
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: morning though I was listening to I was just I

1192
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: had the Today Show one because I love me some

1193
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: Hoda and it's my little guilty pleasure. So I turn

1194
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: on the Today Show and I was, you know, with

1195
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: the baby, and he was whatever and as and she

1196
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: happened to have key drawn on the show with his

1197
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: mom and they played a clip with that song and

1198
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: my and Rio starts crying and I'm looking at him. Well,

1199
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: first it's a funny thing. He starts to smile, he's

1200
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: watching the TV, and then he starts to cry as

1201
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: soon as Kedron gets to the line I just want

1202
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: to live. And you know, I'm like, what is he?

1203
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: Is this because of the song or is he just

1204
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: like does this diper poopy or what's happening? So I

1205
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: rewound it and I played it again, not because I'm mean,

1206
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: but just I did it again. And every time he

1207
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: got to that line, Rio just burst into tears, burst

1208
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: in a tears. They know and he knows, and I

1209
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: just I felt so much. It was just really powerful

1210
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: and I feel like my son is like it's just

1211
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: he gets things and he's like every parent. I'm like,

1212
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: my son is the most special baby ever and he's

1213
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: so intelligent and so smart. But he's my constant reminder

1214
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: that I have to do better and I have to

1215
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: teach him. And to anyone, whether you're a parent or

1216
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: not a parent, your an aunt, an uncle, you have

1217
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: a child in your life, there is a responsibility, and

1218
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: I want to do a big boost for anyone who

1219
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: has helped raise beautiful humans who respect and love one another.

1220
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: And we have got to do better. I think our generations,

1221
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: I millennials like we okay, but we can do so

1222
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: much better for the next generation. And I commend those

1223
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: of you who are out there trying to be a

1224
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: better example for our young people. It's it's exhausting to

1225
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: think about it, to have those conversations with children. Even Tiffany,

1226
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're talking to Supergirl about it.

1227
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: She's old enough to be there in social media and

1228
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: to be exposed to all this. And I will just say,

1229
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: give yourself grace to parents, aunties, uncles, god, parents, whatever,

1230
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: give yourself grace. There's no perfect way to help explain things,

1231
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: but having that dialogue is so important, and I hope

1232
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: that I just hope that one of the silver linings

1233
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: here is that people do feel like they can have

1234
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: those conversations at the dinner table. And it's so important

1235
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: for us to tell our stories to our young people

1236
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: and not let them hear whatever, you know, altered version

1237
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: of the truth they're getting from social media or their

1238
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: friends or you know, the media in general. So I

1239
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: think I'll I think I'll stop it there because this

1240
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: has been a very long episode and like I said,

1241
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: three classes of wine, and I need a force.

1242
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: Like knowing that I was going to, like, you know,

1243
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: chat with you today like I feel because I was

1244
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: on one when I talk about you know that I

1245
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: never understood that Drake song free smoke, free smoke, Hey,

1246
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: free smoke, girl, free smoke. I said, Oh, I'm Drake

1247
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: up in this piece, free smoke. Who want the smoke.

1248
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm a little annoyed that Instagram is not serving me

1249
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: this budgeties to content because I'm like, I'm going to

1250
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: see these posts up in my feed. No, it's also

1251
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: the Twitter.

1252
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: I just this type of thing. Got It'll come up.

1253
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: But okay, I'm gonna catch up. Yes, So why you

1254
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: have three hundred and twenty five thousand followers and you're

1255
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: verified on install.

1256
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: But I just you know what I do want to

1257
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: please y'all, Please y'all, please y'all. I'm just gotta do

1258
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: one minor break. It's just that there there are more

1259
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: spam accounts that are pretending to be Budgenisa would like

1260
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: the underscore before or after in the middle or whatever.

1261
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't have any underscores in my name. It's a scam,

1262
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: and I feel really bad because someone actually gave one

1263
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: of the scam artist money. So they enter into your

1264
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: DM say hey, this is Tiffany's private account because I

1265
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: don't get to answer everything for my business this account,

1266
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: and then they say something like, you know, I can

1267
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: help you make money with bitcoin. I you know, it's

1268
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: a company that I use. You know, for every thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars you invest, you get back eight thousand dollars something

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Speaker 1: to that effect. Hey, I you know, what's your phone number?

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Speaker 1: Are WhatsApp? You the link? And then they steal your money.

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Speaker 1: So that's been There's literally like six accounts floating out there,

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Speaker 1: and I just I'm not going to do any more

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Speaker 1: social posts about it because it just I mean, we

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Speaker 1: I would just post every day. I only can say

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Speaker 1: that not just for me, but don't give anybody on

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Speaker 1: ig just random money. So folks have been messing g

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Speaker 1: me like is this you I'm like, it's not. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say honestly, other than.

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Speaker 2: Well, nont end well, okay, fine, interrupting, not to interrupt,

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Speaker 2: but that's exactly what I'm doing. My brother told me

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Speaker 2: because I was telling him I was going to donate

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Speaker 2: to a couple of there's these nonprofits that are legal

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Speaker 2: defense funds that you can donate to, and they use

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Speaker 2: the funds to bail people out who are arrested by

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Speaker 2: doing protests and things like that, and the Minnesota Freedom

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Speaker 2: and Fun was one that people were donating to. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: my brother was like, well, be careful because some of

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Speaker 2: these funds are actually run by white supremacist groups and

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Speaker 2: who are diverting the funds. So you definitely want to

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Speaker 2: do your googles and do your research before you donate

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Speaker 2: to charities. And I'll shoot a couple of links to

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Speaker 2: include in our show notes of where you can start

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Speaker 2: to find some charities to donate to. Because Tiffany, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about you, but I've chosen not to be

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Speaker 2: out there protesting, and it kind of has been hard

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Speaker 2: because my sister, who's white and lives in Wisconsin, was

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Speaker 2: out there protesting, and my little brother, who lives in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 2: was out there. He walked seven miles yesterday peaceful marching

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I I don't know how to do it

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Speaker 2: in a safe enough way for my child, Like I

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Speaker 2: just don't, and I fear for people who are there

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Speaker 2: protesting because the second wave of coronavirus, I just God,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it just be terrible, you know, to sicken our

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Speaker 2: people even more by protesting, you know. So I haven't

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Speaker 2: been out there marching, although if I think if I

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Speaker 2: was a year ago, I definitely would have been. But

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Speaker 2: the way that I'm choosing is like using my platform

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Speaker 2: to talk about issues and then to donate to some causes.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, all this is to say that if you're

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Speaker 2: going to donate, pull out your wallet, be sure you

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Speaker 2: do your due diligence, and you're giving to the right groups,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the last thing you want to do

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Speaker 2: is give money to someone who's not going to use

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Speaker 2: it for the right for the right reasons, the right cause.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I've been because I want to

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Speaker 1: donate like a good amount of money, and I've just

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Speaker 1: been trying to figure out, oh, what's a definite place

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Speaker 1: it's really going to go to help people? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm going to look at those links because

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing links. But that was my nervousness too.

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Speaker 1: How do I know, I don't want to give ten

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars and it's like this like crappy thing that

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Speaker 1: doesn't go to help anyone. I really honestly want to

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Speaker 1: give to people to get bailed out. So I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to find like an organization that I'm like, oh, they

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Speaker 1: definitively and definitely build people out. Maybe you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do. I'm gonna Callbikate like she's my

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Speaker 1: friend who's an attorney. It helps out folks out like this.

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Speaker 1: If she'd is like, oh no, no, girl, this is legitimate,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll do because I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: to your point that we're making putting our money where

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Speaker 1: we're really going to be helpful. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. The platform that my company UH does charitable UH

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Speaker 2: does charitable donations through is called Brighter Funds or sorry

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Speaker 2: Bright Funds, and they have like a curated list of

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Speaker 2: nonprofits that you could donate to. But I will try

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Speaker 2: and give some good links so that wherever you are

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Speaker 2: in your because it's important to donate to like a

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Speaker 2: local organization too. National ones are very important a c

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Speaker 2: LU for sure, but also if you can just support

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Speaker 2: the local funds in your back in your backyard? Is

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Speaker 2: that even an expression? Whatever? Three glasses fine? Uh, that

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Speaker 2: will make you know a small difference in your community.

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Speaker 2: So we'll include some links for you guys to check

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Speaker 2: out for sure.

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Speaker 1: WEREE smoke, Please smoke? Hey? Were smoke Please smoke? Hey?

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Speaker 1: We leave it out on that