Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody. Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern. Well, it's Monday here on this program, and
Speaker 1: we got a lot of news to get into here
Speaker 1: today because it was a very busy weekend. As I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're all well aware, Summer SLAMO is in the books.
Speaker 1: We've got the Rick Flair's Last Match show, and I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty safe to say that was Rick Flair's
Speaker 1: last match. And if it's not, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say about that. But we're gonna go with the
Speaker 1: presumption that that was Rick Flair's last match, so we
Speaker 1: can do full results of both of those shows. We
Speaker 1: have got Raw coming up tonight, and of course this
Speaker 1: is the first, this is really the first I would say,
Speaker 1: Triple H show. Granted, Vince had been gone for well
Speaker 1: over a week, but Vince Vince had been booking towards SummerSlam,
Speaker 1: and they made some changes obviously at SummerSlam. Eo Sky
Speaker 1: has debuted, Dakota Kai has been rehired, Bailey has returned,
Speaker 1: Becky Lynch has turned baby face. They're going full bore
Speaker 1: into that women's division, and it's not There were some changes,
Speaker 1: but there were also a lot of things on the
Speaker 1: show that it was Vince McMahon's vision. But the show
Speaker 1: is now over and so we have got Rudd to night,
Speaker 1: We've got SmackDown coming up on Friday. We have Nobody
Speaker 1: coming in to tear up the scripts, and things are different.
Speaker 1: How different they will be is a story we can
Speaker 1: talk about six months down the road, a year down
Speaker 1: the road. We'll see little changes here and there, little positives,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure perhaps some negatives as well, but we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that here today. We've also got well, let's see,
Speaker 1: I watched Tom versus Lance Archer, Tom versus Jonah, Zach
Speaker 1: Saber Jr. Versus Hiroshi, Tonahashi, and uh SmackDown and Rampage.
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of stuff this weekend. I did
Speaker 1: a lot of driving, but I'm back and ready to go,
Speaker 1: so back in a moment Wrestling Observer Live Wreck on
Speaker 1: the show, Bry now is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike
Speaker 1: sumbur Vi also Wrestling observer dot Com. Before we get
Speaker 1: to the shows, I do want to say that on Saturday,
Speaker 1: I was watching Summer Slam and Becky Lynch took the
Speaker 1: Jaded and landed sideways it on her side, and having
Speaker 1: separated my shoulder twice wrestling, I knew immediately that was
Speaker 1: not good. And she started grabbing her shoulder, and she
Speaker 1: was grabbing her shoulder throughout the rest of the match,
Speaker 1: and uh, we can confirm today that she did suffer
Speaker 1: a shoulder separation. I don't know the uh extent of it.
Speaker 1: There are several grades of shoulder separation. If you if
Speaker 1: you end up with the I think it's like a grade.
Speaker 1: I think it's grade three is the worst and grade
Speaker 1: one is the least bad. Might be the other way around,
Speaker 1: but regardless, if you get the worst version, then your
Speaker 1: coat at boushey and you can't bench press the bar
Speaker 1: after months and months and months. If you get the
Speaker 1: the lowest grade, you may be able to work through it.
Speaker 1: So it depends on on how serious. She did finish
Speaker 1: the match, and she was using her arm and she
Speaker 1: was fave ring it, but she was lifting and doing
Speaker 1: all of her spots. I'm hoping it is uh. It
Speaker 1: is an injury that she can come back from very quickly.
Speaker 1: So that's the update there on Becky Lynch. And with
Speaker 1: that out of the way, would you guys like to
Speaker 1: talk about Summer Slam or Ric Flair's last match? First? Anybody?
Speaker 1: Are you taking an instant pole, I'll take an instant poll.
Speaker 1: What do you say, Well, you don't get a vote now,
Speaker 1: because the chat just exploded. Everybody was talking about Rick
Speaker 1: Flair's last feeling. I had a feeling. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Summer Slam next, everybody, But yes, yesterday was Rick Flair's
Speaker 1: last match. And with the exception of the women's match,
Speaker 1: because I was busy referring my own women's match here
Speaker 1: at the house, I saw every match on the show
Speaker 1: and the under card. The under card was a solid
Speaker 1: undercard where nobody really got a lot of time. With
Speaker 1: the exception of the h The Ray Phoenix, Bandido Laredo
Speaker 1: Kid and Black tor Roost, they did give eleven minutes
Speaker 1: and fifty seconds, and man, you never saw so many
Speaker 1: spots in eleven minute, fifty seven or fifty second match.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying that a bad way. It
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was by far the best thing on
Speaker 1: the show by miles. But other than that, it was
Speaker 1: just a bunch of of shorter matches. Motor City Machine
Speaker 1: Guns beat the Wolves ten minute match, good solid match,
Speaker 1: Killer Cross beat David boy Smith Jr. Five minutes, just
Speaker 1: two big dudes dropping each other on their heads, choke finish.
Speaker 1: It was fine. Jonathan Gresham, Allen Angels to Keshta and
Speaker 1: Nick Wayne five minutes. They did everything you could do
Speaker 1: in five minutes, which is not a lot. Bryan Pillman Jr.
Speaker 1: And Brock Anderson versus Ricky Morton and Carrie Morton seven
Speaker 1: minutes and just a lot of heat on Carrie. Ricky
Speaker 1: got the hot tag and then he uh, I think
Speaker 1: he might have got hit by by a gimmick. He
Speaker 1: would hit from behind for sure, and then brock Anderson
Speaker 1: pinned him. So Ricky Morton doing the job here. And
Speaker 1: before we go any further, I just want to mention
Speaker 1: then only eight years separates Ricky Morton and Rick Flair.
Speaker 1: For those of you that saw this show, eight years
Speaker 1: was all that separated these two men. And it's not
Speaker 1: like Ricky Morton lived. You know what I'm saying. Ray
Speaker 1: Phoenix be Bndito Laredo kid in Black to Rouse. He
Speaker 1: hit his finish runt of all people Black to Rouse,
Speaker 1: which was quite the physical feat. Match was fantastic. Got
Speaker 1: your way to watch that one. Josh Alexander and Jacob Fatto.
Speaker 1: This match was really good and then they had a
Speaker 1: horrible finish. They went ten minutes and then dudes just
Speaker 1: ran in. Everybody booed. It was a d Q. It
Speaker 1: was the lamest finish you ever saw in your life.
Speaker 1: Jacob Fatt two looked awesome in this match. Josh Alexander
Speaker 1: is always excellent. This was very good until this horrific
Speaker 1: finish and then uh Diamond Della's page jumped the rail
Speaker 1: and hit a diamond cutter on Matt Cardona and DDP
Speaker 1: sixty six years old. Everybody sixty six years old, which
Speaker 1: means seven years separates DDP and Rick Flair seven years.
Speaker 1: For those of you that watched this show, Briscoe's beat
Speaker 1: the Von Eric's. They got about seven minutes. It was fine.
Speaker 1: The Briscos are fantastic, and you know Von Eric's. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the Battle of Farmers, That's what this really was.
Speaker 1: Then we had Jordan Grace meeting Diana Parazzo and Rachel
Speaker 1: Eller ring. I did not see that match. And then
Speaker 1: the main event, Rick Flair android al Low against Jay
Speaker 1: Lethal and Jeff Jarrett. And you want to see a
Speaker 1: physical specimen who could still work. Jeff Jarrett, that dude
Speaker 1: impressed me years old, and boy he was that guy
Speaker 1: can throw punches, he can move and he's not even
Speaker 1: a regular. That's that's that's that's looks like a part timer.
Speaker 1: That's that's doing like executive work for w W. E.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Rick the moment he came out on
Speaker 1: the ramp, God bless him. He looked about a hundred
Speaker 1: years old and he was not moving well at all,
Speaker 1: and he did not look healthy at all. And dude,
Speaker 1: I actually made a cameo on the show that I
Speaker 1: was unaware of where I was on this show, and
Speaker 1: I was talking about what he was doing and when
Speaker 1: he was training with Jay Lethal and how impressed I
Speaker 1: was when I saw that footage and you know, he
Speaker 1: was taking bumps and he was doing spots and and
Speaker 1: it was a totally totally different Ric Flair that got
Speaker 1: in the ring on on Sunday night, and is as
Speaker 1: appalled as people are that watch that match, because Rick Flair,
Speaker 1: I mean, when the match was over, he said to Andrade,
Speaker 1: I passed out, and uh and I think for a
Speaker 1: while he may have actually been unconscious in that match.
Speaker 1: It was it was not good and his appalled as
Speaker 1: people are, and there are a lot of people appalled
Speaker 1: at what happened on Sunday night. The fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is if the Rick Flair that had done those
Speaker 1: training videos with Jay Lethal, if that Rick Flair, and
Speaker 1: that was not that long ago, that was like a
Speaker 1: month ago, two months ago, if that guy would have
Speaker 1: been in the ring on Sunday night, I don't think
Speaker 1: people would have been appalled. And I think honestly that
Speaker 1: if the Rick Flair that was there Sunday, if that
Speaker 1: Rick Flair had been in those training videos, I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure this match would have ever taken place. So
Speaker 1: I know people are are very upset with, you know,
Speaker 1: Flair being allowed to go in the ring and everything
Speaker 1: like that, but I mean, honestly, if you watch those
Speaker 1: training videos, it was it was I don't want to
Speaker 1: say night and day, but it was very, very different,
Speaker 1: and what we got on Sunday night. I was terrified.
Speaker 1: I was petrified the entire match. I was wondering why
Speaker 1: there was no one there to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: Rick Flair when he would go down and not move
Speaker 1: for extended periods of time when everybody else is doing
Speaker 1: spots in the ring. And uh, he was lifted up
Speaker 1: to the top rope for his superplex, he decided even
Speaker 1: want to take it, and so he went back down
Speaker 1: to the man j Lethal gave him a vertical suplex,
Speaker 1: and as God is my witness, he never he never
Speaker 1: got to his feet again the entire match. Everything from
Speaker 1: that point forward was crawling and laying there, and that
Speaker 1: probably was when he passed out, as he claimed to Androide,
Speaker 1: And Uh, this has got to be the end, dude,
Speaker 1: It's got to be the end. You forgot about the
Speaker 1: fact that he was bleeding like a stuck pig. Well,
Speaker 1: yeah he did. He did bleed, which also is probably
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he was laying there like that.
Speaker 1: And he was drinking all weekend long. I'm sure there
Speaker 1: was a drug alan dump. I'm sure he was banged
Speaker 1: up during training, but it was a long emotional weekend
Speaker 1: that then ended with the match, and there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people I know that benefited from this weekend,
Speaker 1: so you know the fact that they put the whole
Speaker 1: convention on and everything that was surrounding it, that was
Speaker 1: cool with me. I never needed to see Rick Flair
Speaker 1: back in the ring, you know, after Shawn Michaels let alone,
Speaker 1: after the deal he did with Hulk Coogan in Impact.
Speaker 1: But that's Rick Flair. So it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where you can't stop this man from doing what he
Speaker 1: wants to do. A medical board could, but there was
Speaker 1: none that did. And we see his training for what
Speaker 1: he's been through. It was amazing, But I still didn't
Speaker 1: need to see it. But it was as simple as
Speaker 1: either ordered it or you didn't. And everything seems to
Speaker 1: be okay coming out of it. We haven't heard anything
Speaker 1: about anything with Rick Flair, but for me, the way
Speaker 1: I was able to tolerate it because I hated watching it.
Speaker 1: I hated it. David Crockett was so happy and Doug
Speaker 1: Dillinger was there, and for a guy that grew up
Speaker 1: on all of that, that mid Atlantic Championship wrestling, that stuff,
Speaker 1: to celebrate that that that was good. The match itself,
Speaker 1: it goes down in history with what it was back
Speaker 1: in a moment Observerer Live right in the show. Brian
Speaker 1: Eilber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike'snumber viv also of
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer at dot com. Well, hey, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I mean there was a lot of
Speaker 1: people there and I was told that I is Keith Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Was he the the Impact guy? Keith Mitchell, Right, Keith Mitchell, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean confused him and Kevin Sullivan for some reason.
Speaker 1: But Keith Mitchell, he had retired and uh he actually
Speaker 1: came back to do this show. And you could you
Speaker 1: could tell watching it. I mean it looked packed and
Speaker 1: the production looked very much like an Impact show, and
Speaker 1: you know, there were all sorts of of names from
Speaker 1: the past that were brought back and nostalgia wise, I
Speaker 1: mean I enjoyed the show. I like the nostalgia. You know,
Speaker 1: A huge fan of David Crockett. I watched all those
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest fan maybe of Dave are Yeah, and uh, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what Onraida and Jay Lethal and Jeff Jarret.
Speaker 1: They did a great job in the match. Undertaker was there,
Speaker 1: Mick Foley was there obviously DDP because he made a
Speaker 1: run in. Uh, Dolph Ziggler is Nick Nemo was there,
Speaker 1: so they had a lot of names backstage. Jimmy Valley
Speaker 1: was there whenever saw somebody was there. So I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Rick Flair, honest to god, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever gonna wrestle again. And uh, you know, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: she was there, and she didn't put her foot down
Speaker 1: on this match, but she did put her foot down
Speaker 1: on certain things like the dive of the outside, which
Speaker 1: in hindsight, she didn't need to bother because it wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I'm pretty sure that his family would
Speaker 1: put their foot down if he tried to do this
Speaker 1: again after I would hope, just for what everybody else
Speaker 1: I think in the world, I don't know. Maybe look
Speaker 1: some people, I guess we're dying for a snuff filding.
Speaker 1: But this was like watching like the Walendas, like Carl
Speaker 1: Wolendo when he was old, like you know, and that
Speaker 1: didn't end well. And it's like there was part of
Speaker 1: this where it was being and it wasn't. They weren't
Speaker 1: selling it directly this way, but when you watched the
Speaker 1: videos and everything, and you know what this guy has
Speaker 1: been through, and you think about what Rick Flair would
Speaker 1: do in a match, including blade when you have a
Speaker 1: heart that I mean, it was being sold for a
Speaker 1: lot of people on will this guy die? Or we
Speaker 1: could see news or history or whatever you'd want to
Speaker 1: call it. And it was maccabre it was. But the
Speaker 1: flip side of watching Rick Flair my entire life. If
Speaker 1: that would have been it for Rick Flair, would he
Speaker 1: have been incredibly content with that? You see how he
Speaker 1: talks about how at this point is it was so
Speaker 1: important for my career that Vince put the wou back in.
Speaker 1: It was so important, this match was the most important
Speaker 1: of my life. This is what he is. He is
Speaker 1: never anything else besides Rick Flair, and he was he
Speaker 1: when he stopped being Rich Morgan Flair a long time ago.
Speaker 1: This is this is what he is. So in that way,
Speaker 1: if it was going to be the end, I don't
Speaker 1: think could he have went out any other way? With
Speaker 1: his entire family, his whole wrestling family and really everything
Speaker 1: that how he looks at himself, whether for good or
Speaker 1: for a lot of times really bad. He's nature boy,
Speaker 1: Rick Flair. Well, I will say this. My my point
Speaker 1: and all of this is I don't think you can
Speaker 1: see another Rick Flair match, but I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised that. Well. My point is Flair can finish Flair,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Flair's Flair is not going to wrestle again.
Speaker 1: But I am quite confident that Conrad is going to
Speaker 1: promote another show because you know, the Flair match, aside,
Speaker 1: the whole weekend was a big success and I think
Speaker 1: everybody did very well. And I think that he's gonna
Speaker 1: want to do this again. Will he do another show
Speaker 1: like this? Will he just do another independent show? What's
Speaker 1: he gonna do? I have no idea, but this was
Speaker 1: to me clear and actually apparently they're During the they
Speaker 1: had all those q and a' s and uh and
Speaker 1: I think during the Q and A he jokingly asked
Speaker 1: mcfoley if he wanted to do another match, which I
Speaker 1: think would be a bad idea, But you know, I
Speaker 1: looked up and down that show, and you know, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the worst thing to see d DP do
Speaker 1: one more match. Dude, I saw that guy. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be worried about him doing another match. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some other guys that you know, they could,
Speaker 1: they could arrange something to do something similar to this.
Speaker 1: So I think we will see another show of this nature,
Speaker 1: But I don't think you're gonna see the Nature Boy
Speaker 1: doing a match again. And by the way, you guys
Speaker 1: can take that to the bank. You guys don't believe this.
Speaker 1: You don't believe this. You didn't believe me when I
Speaker 1: told you things to be fine with Bianca bell Air.
Speaker 1: I told you guys this. I told you guys this
Speaker 1: in December, and nobody believed me. I told you this
Speaker 1: once you won the Royal Rumble, nobody believed me. I
Speaker 1: told you this, and WrestleMania, nobody believed me. Now she's
Speaker 1: beat Becky Lynch clean in the middle at Summer Slam
Speaker 1: in front of thirty eight thousand people. Unless you're a
Speaker 1: king that it was forty eight thousand people. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna tell me you're not doing well now? Huh? I
Speaker 1: talk about Summer Slam or do you have more to
Speaker 1: say about the Nature Boy. I'm just amazed that you
Speaker 1: had to really ram home the bridge of Rick Flair
Speaker 1: is not gonna have a lot to get to the
Speaker 1: fact that Conrad is gonna promote another show again, No
Speaker 1: kiddning he's going to this was his fifth? Was he
Speaker 1: booked it? I mean, no kidding. Cars, We're gonna have
Speaker 1: another match, do you know what? Maybe it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez his last match. Are you free? I could
Speaker 1: use an opponent. Hey listen, I have to is lay
Speaker 1: on the mat for fifteen minutes. Huh? What kind of
Speaker 1: rules is this under? Can we wait for a g
Speaker 1: c W type of weekend and we can actually do
Speaker 1: what you want to do, a barbed wire match? No? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we could actually mix things since we could,
Speaker 1: we can merge blood sport with that. What are you
Speaker 1: just talking about? How you're trying to talk to your
Speaker 1: kid out of wanting to cut himself, and now you're
Speaker 1: you want to do your only match as a barbed
Speaker 1: wire match. I I don't guess you to cut himself.
Speaker 1: As far as me cutting others, I mean, in certain cases,
Speaker 1: I think that would be fine. That would be fine.
Speaker 1: Why don't you talk about SummerSlam right on? Bianco? But
Speaker 1: I gotta match me and John Moxley against you. Who
Speaker 1: do I want for your partner? Oh? No, I get
Speaker 1: to choose maybe Craig choose no no no, no no
Speaker 1: no no no. I anyway, Moxley is gonna hold that blade.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be cutting nobody. I'm gonna bring in
Speaker 1: the ripper. Hey, one of us is a lot more
Speaker 1: vain about our looks than the other is pal So
Speaker 1: if any about that match, it would be you. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about SummerSlam. So this show was really good
Speaker 1: for about an hour and a half, and then it
Speaker 1: became an old school Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn excruciatingly along
Speaker 1: video packages, dudes coming out to fake the attendants insufferably,
Speaker 1: along ring entrances, the whole nine yards. But it started
Speaker 1: out really good, Old man River, I was so excited.
Speaker 1: I was so excited when the show started because it's
Speaker 1: the first Triple H pay per view, and literally the
Speaker 1: show starts and Becky's music kids. They didn't have a
Speaker 1: video package, we didn't have fifteen minutes or rigmarole. It
Speaker 1: was like they got her down to the ring, then
Speaker 1: they got Bianca down to the ring, and then they
Speaker 1: had a very very good match, and they got fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes and Bianca beat her clean in the middle after
Speaker 1: going back and forth, and then when it's over Bailey's music. Kids.
Speaker 1: So Bailey comes down the aisle, and then the Code
Speaker 1: of Sky, who had been fired, she got rehired. She
Speaker 1: comes down the aisle and then the music hits and
Speaker 1: outcomes the former EO Sharai who is now EO Sky, which,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are furious about. But listen
Speaker 1: to everybody, this is it's some of this is a
Speaker 1: Vince thing, like when Vince gets weird about you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to be called junr okay, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Nick con and Stephanie they're probably the
Speaker 1: ones behind. Listen, we gotta brand these people. They all
Speaker 1: have to have a new name. We don't want them
Speaker 1: leaving and using their w W E names somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna get a new name. And EO Sharai was
Speaker 1: the Queen of the Sky right that was her gimmick,
Speaker 1: So now she's EO Sky. I don't think this is
Speaker 1: the end of the world. I don't know why everybody
Speaker 1: is up in arms about this one. You should be
Speaker 1: happy that she got immediately signed to a main roster
Speaker 1: contract and got called up the second Vince was out
Speaker 1: of there. Should be happy about that Who cares what
Speaker 1: her name is. You could call her hot Dog Ferguson
Speaker 1: for all I care. She's on the main roster and
Speaker 1: she's gonna be wrestling. So they came out and I
Speaker 1: was like, my god, look at this. He brought back Dakota,
Speaker 1: he brought up Eo Bailey's back. Becky has turned baby face.
Speaker 1: She's a baby face again. Thank god. Bianca beat Becky
Speaker 1: and is a big, huge star like this, Women's Divisions
Speaker 1: on fire. It's the first thing to happen on SummerSlam.
Speaker 1: I was over the moon with joy. Then Logan Paul
Speaker 1: beat the Miss in a good match fifteen minutes. And
Speaker 1: you know, Logan Paul are great at WrestleMania, but bro,
Speaker 1: he's in there with you know, Ray Mysterio and and uh.
Speaker 1: But this was a singles match with the Miss, who
Speaker 1: was not renown for his singles matches, and they he's
Speaker 1: not and they had a good match. Logan Paul beat him.
Speaker 1: He did so much impressive stuff that, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: they actually cheered Agan Paul beating the Miss. He was
Speaker 1: a baby faced. When this is over, we'll see how
Speaker 1: long that lasts. But a good match. Give him his credit.
Speaker 1: He may not be great when it comes to your
Speaker 1: average everyday wrestling match, but when he comes to these
Speaker 1: celebrity type of deals, he is very, very good. And
Speaker 1: he did his job with Logan Paul perfectly, including getting
Speaker 1: that crowd to turn the heat back on himself more
Speaker 1: Summer Slam. After this break, everybody this commercial break to
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Speaker 1: Where were we well? Hot Dog ferguson Bonnie Lashley in
Speaker 1: Theory Man, I gotta love hate relationship with the way
Speaker 1: they book theory on this show because I'm sick of
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm glad that he didn't win the title,
Speaker 1: but golly, holy smoke, am After after having to sit
Speaker 1: through forty five minutes of us in theory segments on
Speaker 1: every show for the last month, what was the payoff?
Speaker 1: Try out all that time up ninety minutes a week
Speaker 1: for four weeks, three sixty minutes at six uh six
Speaker 1: hours of austin theory I sat through for the last month,
Speaker 1: six hours, and what was the payoff? Well, he faced
Speaker 1: Bobby Lashly, Lashly squashed him, meet him with hurt lock
Speaker 1: in five minutes. Then as we'll get too later during
Speaker 1: the main event, he ran out this idiot God bless
Speaker 1: a guy. But in storyline he's an idiot. This idiot
Speaker 1: sees Roman reigns down and he decides now is a
Speaker 1: great time to cash in. He runs down the ring,
Speaker 1: rocks right there. Well, Bamn kills him. He's dead. That
Speaker 1: was the whole Austin theory gimmick on this show. In
Speaker 1: a last man standing match, all he had to do
Speaker 1: was wait till both guys were down, then run down
Speaker 1: and do that I guess, and him both in the
Speaker 1: head if he can join mid match like he was
Speaker 1: planning on doing. He could have waited to see what
Speaker 1: would have happened, but no, So I liked you know,
Speaker 1: there was the aspect of me that liked that they
Speaker 1: didn't do anything with him on the show. There was
Speaker 1: an aspect of me that was like, God, I sat
Speaker 1: through six hours for nothing, and now there's the aspect
Speaker 1: of well, now he's still got the briefcase. They're gonna
Speaker 1: keep going. Somebody by the way, I had a great idea,
Speaker 1: which it doesn't really work because you don't actually have
Speaker 1: to give the contract of the referee. But after the
Speaker 1: briefcase was obliterated, they were like, man, you know, Roman
Speaker 1: should get beat up and he's down and he's he's dead,
Speaker 1: and Theory goes to cash in, but he tries to
Speaker 1: open the briefcase of his jam shut because has been
Speaker 1: smashed so badly in the Last man Standing match and
Speaker 1: he can't cash in, and you're not You're not looking
Speaker 1: at the Theory Lashly thing, with the fact that Lashly
Speaker 1: didn't have to lose at any point to Austin Theory,
Speaker 1: with the way that Theory is really happy that Bobby
Speaker 1: Lashley's the champ of the guys super Over. The fans
Speaker 1: love him exactly and it and it looked awesome with
Speaker 1: him doing the role into the ring and jumping up
Speaker 1: and then getting caught in the press lamb down into
Speaker 1: the full Nelson. I thought that was that was cool.
Speaker 1: So I have no issue with this. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: Theory cram down your throat anyway, so at least again,
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's see how it goes tonight. They
Speaker 1: have made him look like a goofball, and yes, they
Speaker 1: made him look like less of a goofball in some ways,
Speaker 1: I guess on Sunday night, but I I if it
Speaker 1: continues on TV, they have got to be doing the
Speaker 1: thing where they're tearing him down to build him back
Speaker 1: up again, because otherwise, like tonight should be the night
Speaker 1: theory starts actually like kicking some ass and not being
Speaker 1: such a geek. Because Drew comes out there, He's a star,
Speaker 1: Bobby Lashley's a star, Roman reigns as a star. You know,
Speaker 1: brock Leszar is a star. They're looked at his stars,
Speaker 1: even Riddle, you know Orton who was not there, but Rollins,
Speaker 1: those guys, all of them are looked at, I think
Speaker 1: in a better length than theory is. And people believe
Speaker 1: in all of those other people far more than austin theory.
Speaker 1: So at some point he's your guy in the future.
Speaker 1: You need to build stars. Let's start getting it going
Speaker 1: and actually making this guy a serious figure. We had
Speaker 1: the Mysterios beating the judgment day in a notice qualification
Speaker 1: match when is expected Edge returned, who is not, by
Speaker 1: the way, the fiend. He returned. He helped them Stereos win.
Speaker 1: He's a baby face. And I was watching the match
Speaker 1: and he came back intought my gud with his new
Speaker 1: haircut everything like that. I was like, this guy looks
Speaker 1: exactly like d D. Penny Moose like him too, and
Speaker 1: then Scott's my witness. I saw DDP the next day
Speaker 1: on the uh Rick Flare's Last Match show and it
Speaker 1: was uncanny. So yoga, he should be doing yoga. If
Speaker 1: that's not doing yoga now he should because it's done
Speaker 1: wonders for all d d P. Uh Pat McAfee beat
Speaker 1: Happy Corbin. It was all right. It was not a
Speaker 1: great Pat McAfee match. He was sloppy on a lot
Speaker 1: of things. It wasn't bad match at all. I mean
Speaker 1: it was you know, the match they did was was
Speaker 1: like a you know, good match. I'd say it was
Speaker 1: pretty good, but he did he was sloppy on things,
Speaker 1: and he looked like a green wrestler as opposed to
Speaker 1: before when he was like an outsider who blew you
Speaker 1: away with how good he was. Now that he's been
Speaker 1: doing matches, now he's gonna be judged and this weapon
Speaker 1: to Logan Paul as well to the same standards of
Speaker 1: everybody else in the company. And uh, this was not
Speaker 1: a great Pat McAfee performance here. Yeah, but to be
Speaker 1: fair for a lot of people that didn't see, that's
Speaker 1: not like this was a botch of Mania type of
Speaker 1: match because McAfee is such a great athlete he was
Speaker 1: actually able to overcome it, like you know, jumping up
Speaker 1: and he lands on his knees on the ropes, but
Speaker 1: then he's back up on his feet and the wobble
Speaker 1: when he was going to do the dive to the outside,
Speaker 1: which you know that was you know that tourists was
Speaker 1: a tourists and bandido no its tourists and uh oh
Speaker 1: god during the pay per view where he he saved
Speaker 1: a man from breaking his neck that dive by McAfee,
Speaker 1: I wish Corbyn was a little bit more underneath him,
Speaker 1: because okay, I should uh, I should mention here very
Speaker 1: quickly that I am not one hundred percent confirming this,
Speaker 1: but since everybody is asking about it, I do have
Speaker 1: one source who was saying that, yes, Sasha and Naomi
Speaker 1: have made a deal to return, So we'll know more,
Speaker 1: i'm sure within two hours. But I'll just say I
Speaker 1: think it's true. I'm pretty sure, but I can't say.
Speaker 1: I can't say, and if anybody you out there though,
Speaker 1: until it breaks you know, if you have any questions
Speaker 1: at all at Brian Alvarez, he loves answering questions about
Speaker 1: the boss. Don't start this stuff. We had the USO's
Speaker 1: beating the street profits and they just beat him, so
Speaker 1: I think, I think they must be splitting them up,
Speaker 1: which is a funny story, but I don't I told
Speaker 1: the story on the bright of any show. But essentially, like,
Speaker 1: can they both go hell? Then if that's what this
Speaker 1: is about, because I would break up and both go hell,
Speaker 1: because I would rather just have them somehow break up
Speaker 1: because I want to see Angelo Dawkins with m v P.
Speaker 1: So he has somebody besides almost, and I don't think
Speaker 1: montes Ford needs anyone, And I just I would rather
Speaker 1: see it that way than have montes the way this
Speaker 1: is being framed right now, turn on Dawkins and then
Speaker 1: I don't know Dawkins is. Look, he's gotten a lot
Speaker 1: better and I think he can be something. He's big,
Speaker 1: there's Willie an upside to him. But I would love
Speaker 1: to see him with m v P as somebody. I
Speaker 1: think that again, it helps out m v P immensely too.
Speaker 1: By just have an almost around and you can actually
Speaker 1: I can think of Dawkins and like Bobby Lashley would
Speaker 1: be something I would like to see Live more Agan
Speaker 1: versus run Da Rousey. They had like four minutes. I
Speaker 1: got their time cut. I was told because of Logan,
Speaker 1: Paul and them miss but they just it was Rhonda
Speaker 1: putting on one arm bar after another. Live kept getting
Speaker 1: the ropes. Runna got mad. Finally she puts her in
Speaker 1: a straight arm bar and Live Morgan taps, but the
Speaker 1: referees counting run his shoulders and so even though Live
Speaker 1: Morgan tapped out before the pinfall, only the pinfall count
Speaker 1: because that's where the referee saw. So Live retained the
Speaker 1: title and then Run to beat up Live, which is
Speaker 1: a heel move. Then she beat up the baby face,
Speaker 1: which was a baby face move. So we'll find out
Speaker 1: tonight or Friday or the referee. What I say, the
Speaker 1: baby face beating up the baby past is not a
Speaker 1: baby paste move. Well, it's a baby face reff meeting
Speaker 1: up the ref is a baby face move. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out tonight or Friday what the deal is
Speaker 1: with a Rousey. But I think everybody knows the WrestleMania
Speaker 1: Big Match is gonna be a Ronda Rousey versus Becky Lynch,
Speaker 1: and if Becky Lynch is going baby face round a,
Speaker 1: Rousey should be turning heel sooner rather than later. She
Speaker 1: should just have done it anyway for sure. And then
Speaker 1: Roman Reins and brock Lessner last man standing tables chairs,
Speaker 1: a tractor, a tractor that was used as a forklift
Speaker 1: to elevate the ring, and you know, Roman Reins tumbled
Speaker 1: out of it, which led to uh, exactly one half
Speaker 1: of the people who paid for front row tickets being
Speaker 1: unable to see the rest of the match because there
Speaker 1: was a ring. It was worth it, and uh, I
Speaker 1: liked it. I mean, you know, some people didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I'll put it this way. Then
Speaker 1: he really didn't like the match. I was watching with
Speaker 1: Vinnie at the time. I was very irritated watching the
Speaker 1: match because there have been an hour, with the exception
Speaker 1: of the Rhonda Rousey Live Morgan five minute match, it
Speaker 1: was an hour of videos entrances. Here comes Kane to
Speaker 1: lie about the attendance. Another video. Here's Roman Reigns taken
Speaker 1: six minutes to walk to the ring. Here's brock Lesner
Speaker 1: taking twelve minutes to drive a tractor. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm it's hot in this room. Get the show on
Speaker 1: the road, dude. So as I'm watching, I'm I'm irritated.
Speaker 1: But then you know, after it's over, and then you
Speaker 1: think back about what they actually did. I like the match.
Speaker 1: You know, it was fun. They did all sorts of
Speaker 1: crazy things. They're teasing that's the last time they love
Speaker 1: a wrestle. Which this is a key because I've been
Speaker 1: writing a lot and people don't like to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: I realized we've seen this match seven times. I realized
Speaker 1: that if somebody gets hurt, y'all think they're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to bruck Lessner and Roman Reigns. Okay, I know
Speaker 1: you all think that, but listen, Vince is gone. He's done. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gone. They don't need to ever go back to
Speaker 1: this match again. Someone else in charge can find somebody
Speaker 1: else to face Roman Reigns or whoever. And if you
Speaker 1: don't believe me, you don't believe me. I believe that
Speaker 1: Paul Hayman, who is a really smart guy who's been
Speaker 1: around the block, I believe that he believes that this
Speaker 1: is the last time they're ever doing a match. Because
Speaker 1: that dude took an F five through a table and
Speaker 1: he ain't doing that if he thinks in three months,
Speaker 1: are just gonna do this match again. So I think
Speaker 1: everybody believes, and I think there's actually a very good
Speaker 1: chance and we don't ever see this match again. Okay.
Speaker 1: And they pulled out all the stops, they destroyed a ringside,
Speaker 1: they killed everybody, so uh, I thought it was fun.
Speaker 1: I think we could see this match again, but not
Speaker 1: for a few years, and not until a WrestleMania. I
Speaker 1: don't even think they'll break this one out. And if
Speaker 1: the Saudis asked for it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I think it's better at this point the Saudi's already
Speaker 1: saw it at least once. Well you know again, if
Speaker 1: they wanted to pay for it again, Like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even put that one on the table because it's one
Speaker 1: of those things you have where God bless them if
Speaker 1: their bodies don't break down. I bet you in like
Speaker 1: three years, four years, brock still looks pretty much the same.
Speaker 1: And even if he didn't, who cares it would be
Speaker 1: brock lessner if he came out there with a gigantic
Speaker 1: beer gut. But in even bigger hat. Nobody would give
Speaker 1: a crap because it's Brock. Roman is probably gonna look
Speaker 1: the same in like four years. You can go back
Speaker 1: to it. Then there are too many other people, There
Speaker 1: are too many other things you need to do and
Speaker 1: build up, and there are far there are just a
Speaker 1: ton of other ideas out there. Romans still your champion.
Speaker 1: Brock is still Brock. Paul got lay it out, which
Speaker 1: was awesome, and the match was a spectacle, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't all that great, but it's the whole show. It
Speaker 1: was okay, but the spectacle aspect of it is what
Speaker 1: made it for me. Even with the time, even with
Speaker 1: it being along and all that stuff, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: great wrestling show. But as far as ww egos, when
Speaker 1: you have Logan Paul and you have the mysterios winning
Speaker 1: clean and like a lot of that stuff, well I
Speaker 1: guess not clean with edge, but regardless, look, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a decent enough night if you're trying to
Speaker 1: put it up against Tokyo domes or old manias or
Speaker 1: something like that. Like I don't know what to tell you,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's it's this is w w E
Speaker 1: now and prepare for two or three celebrities if they
Speaker 1: can fit them in on every tent pole show guaranteed. Well,
Speaker 1: that's uh, those shows we had smacked in as well,
Speaker 1: which is uh, you know, at this point, it's a
Speaker 1: lame duck show. Tom Filthy, Tom and I are gonna
Speaker 1: be up at four Pacific seven Eastern today and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about his g one matches in this week's show.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a pot pourri whatever we were
Speaker 1: able to watch, each of us we're gonna review. So
Speaker 1: there's no set schedule. So anyway, we'll talk about that
Speaker 1: more for the break. Observer Live back in the show.
Speaker 1: Brand Albert is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simper viv
Speaker 1: also Wrestling Observer dot com ros tonight. It feels like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot. Hot. Yeah, the whole company feels
Speaker 1: hot right now. I'm so happy Vince's gunn Have I
Speaker 1: mentioned that? Hey, Look, it was just time, dude, it
Speaker 1: was and look and look besides all the other stuff,
Speaker 1: By the way, nobody I like more than DJ con
Speaker 1: Way on the board and on Twitter and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Always been a great supporter of everything I've ever done.
Speaker 1: And I see him out there and it's like he's
Speaker 1: got the same timeline you must do right now with
Speaker 1: some of the knuckleheads he has to deal with, and
Speaker 1: I think he's got to deal with people that are
Speaker 1: celebrating like everything is different, everything is changing, And no,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be it's going to be a
Speaker 1: slow process. But at least there's something because as they
Speaker 1: showed with EO and Dakota coming back, Okay, at least
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna at least try, You're gonna at least
Speaker 1: hear some of this, and at least I'm not expecting
Speaker 1: the world. I'm not expecting w W to ever be
Speaker 1: my favorite wrestling promotion in any way. But as long
Speaker 1: as the shows are more fun and entertaining and easier
Speaker 1: to watch when they're three hours long, I'm for it.
Speaker 1: Give me some new stars, give me some new stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm a wrestling fan. I'm willing to buy
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