WEBVTT - Ric Flair's Last Match/Becky Lynch Shoulder Separation 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.960 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:15.520 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody. Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.040 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:23.320 Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.119 sixth Eastern. Well, it's Monday here on this program, and 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.120 we got a lot of news to get into here 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.080 today because it was a very busy weekend. As I'm 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:37.159 sure you're all well aware, Summer SLAMO is in the books. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:46.239 We've got the Rick Flair's Last Match show, and I 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.440 think it's pretty safe to say that was Rick Flair's 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.240 last match. And if it's not, I don't know what 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:54.720 to say about that. But we're gonna go with the 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:59.280 presumption that that was Rick Flair's last match, so we 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.560 can do full results of both of those shows. We 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.000 have got Raw coming up tonight, and of course this 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.240 is the first, this is really the first I would say, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.160 Triple H show. Granted, Vince had been gone for well 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:18.160 over a week, but Vince Vince had been booking towards SummerSlam, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:24.000 and they made some changes obviously at SummerSlam. Eo Sky 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:29.840 has debuted, Dakota Kai has been rehired, Bailey has returned, 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.360 Becky Lynch has turned baby face. They're going full bore 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.760 into that women's division, and it's not There were some changes, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:39.920 but there were also a lot of things on the 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.040 show that it was Vince McMahon's vision. But the show 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.920 is now over and so we have got Rudd to night, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.400 We've got SmackDown coming up on Friday. We have Nobody 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.440 coming in to tear up the scripts, and things are different. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.240 How different they will be is a story we can 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.440 talk about six months down the road, a year down 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.720 the road. We'll see little changes here and there, little positives, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.720 and I'm sure perhaps some negatives as well, but we'll 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.480 talk about that here today. We've also got well, let's see, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.480 I watched Tom versus Lance Archer, Tom versus Jonah, Zach 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:19.080 Saber Jr. Versus Hiroshi, Tonahashi, and uh SmackDown and Rampage. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.560 I watched a lot of stuff this weekend. I did 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.880 a lot of driving, but I'm back and ready to go, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:42.919 so back in a moment Wrestling Observer Live Wreck on 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.320 the show, Bry now is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.240 sumbur Vi also Wrestling observer dot Com. Before we get 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.600 to the shows, I do want to say that on Saturday, 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.960 I was watching Summer Slam and Becky Lynch took the 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:02.359 Jaded and landed sideways it on her side, and having 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.960 separated my shoulder twice wrestling, I knew immediately that was 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.760 not good. And she started grabbing her shoulder, and she 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.320 was grabbing her shoulder throughout the rest of the match, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.480 and uh, we can confirm today that she did suffer 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:21.440 a shoulder separation. I don't know the uh extent of it. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:27.280 There are several grades of shoulder separation. If you if 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.320 you end up with the I think it's like a grade. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.919 I think it's grade three is the worst and grade 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.200 one is the least bad. Might be the other way around, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.520 but regardless, if you get the worst version, then your 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.680 coat at boushey and you can't bench press the bar 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.760 after months and months and months. If you get the 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:51.520 the lowest grade, you may be able to work through it. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.320 So it depends on on how serious. She did finish 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.400 the match, and she was using her arm and she 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.400 was fave ring it, but she was lifting and doing 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.480 all of her spots. I'm hoping it is uh. It 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.920 is an injury that she can come back from very quickly. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.560 So that's the update there on Becky Lynch. And with 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.160 that out of the way, would you guys like to 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:20.240 talk about Summer Slam or Ric Flair's last match? First? Anybody? 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.320 Are you taking an instant pole, I'll take an instant poll. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.400 What do you say, Well, you don't get a vote now, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.360 because the chat just exploded. Everybody was talking about Rick 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.800 Flair's last feeling. I had a feeling. We'll talk about 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.920 Summer Slam next, everybody, But yes, yesterday was Rick Flair's 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:43.679 last match. And with the exception of the women's match, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.039 because I was busy referring my own women's match here 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.159 at the house, I saw every match on the show 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.160 and the under card. The under card was a solid 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.719 undercard where nobody really got a lot of time. With 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:02.359 the exception of the h The Ray Phoenix, Bandido Laredo 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.839 Kid and Black tor Roost, they did give eleven minutes 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.400 and fifty seconds, and man, you never saw so many 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.320 spots in eleven minute, fifty seven or fifty second match. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:12.640 And I'm not even saying that a bad way. It 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.280 was awesome. It was by far the best thing on 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.279 the show by miles. But other than that, it was 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.240 just a bunch of of shorter matches. Motor City Machine 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.159 Guns beat the Wolves ten minute match, good solid match, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.840 Killer Cross beat David boy Smith Jr. Five minutes, just 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.320 two big dudes dropping each other on their heads, choke finish. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.680 It was fine. Jonathan Gresham, Allen Angels to Keshta and 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:42.800 Nick Wayne five minutes. They did everything you could do 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:48.000 in five minutes, which is not a lot. Bryan Pillman Jr. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.160 And Brock Anderson versus Ricky Morton and Carrie Morton seven 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.400 minutes and just a lot of heat on Carrie. Ricky 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.240 got the hot tag and then he uh, I think 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.760 he might have got hit by by a gimmick. He 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.719 would hit from behind for sure, and then brock Anderson 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.279 pinned him. So Ricky Morton doing the job here. And 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.120 before we go any further, I just want to mention 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:15.919 then only eight years separates Ricky Morton and Rick Flair. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.880 For those of you that saw this show, eight years 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.560 was all that separated these two men. And it's not 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.560 like Ricky Morton lived. You know what I'm saying. Ray 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.599 Phoenix be Bndito Laredo kid in Black to Rouse. He 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.200 hit his finish runt of all people Black to Rouse, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.000 which was quite the physical feat. Match was fantastic. Got 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.320 your way to watch that one. Josh Alexander and Jacob Fatto. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.320 This match was really good and then they had a 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.800 horrible finish. They went ten minutes and then dudes just 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.200 ran in. Everybody booed. It was a d Q. It 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.400 was the lamest finish you ever saw in your life. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.520 Jacob Fatt two looked awesome in this match. Josh Alexander 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.960 is always excellent. This was very good until this horrific 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.320 finish and then uh Diamond Della's page jumped the rail 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.679 and hit a diamond cutter on Matt Cardona and DDP 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.800 sixty six years old. Everybody sixty six years old, which 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:22.239 means seven years separates DDP and Rick Flair seven years. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.840 For those of you that watched this show, Briscoe's beat 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.920 the Von Eric's. They got about seven minutes. It was fine. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.880 The Briscos are fantastic, and you know Von Eric's. You know, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.160 it's the Battle of Farmers, That's what this really was. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.160 Then we had Jordan Grace meeting Diana Parazzo and Rachel 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.000 Eller ring. I did not see that match. And then 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:48.240 the main event, Rick Flair android al Low against Jay 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.320 Lethal and Jeff Jarrett. And you want to see a 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.080 physical specimen who could still work. Jeff Jarrett, that dude 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:01.120 impressed me years old, and boy he was that guy 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.960 can throw punches, he can move and he's not even 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.600 a regular. That's that's that's that's looks like a part timer. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.960 That's that's doing like executive work for w W. E. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.080 Let's talk about Rick the moment he came out on 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:19.560 the ramp, God bless him. He looked about a hundred 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.280 years old and he was not moving well at all, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.920 and he did not look healthy at all. And dude, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.600 I actually made a cameo on the show that I 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.760 was unaware of where I was on this show, and 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.319 I was talking about what he was doing and when 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.480 he was training with Jay Lethal and how impressed I 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.520 was when I saw that footage and you know, he 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.719 was taking bumps and he was doing spots and and 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.600 it was a totally totally different Ric Flair that got 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.240 in the ring on on Sunday night, and is as 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:02.680 appalled as people are that watch that match, because Rick Flair, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.760 I mean, when the match was over, he said to Andrade, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.480 I passed out, and uh and I think for a 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.200 while he may have actually been unconscious in that match. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.760 It was it was not good and his appalled as 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.520 people are, and there are a lot of people appalled 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.040 at what happened on Sunday night. The fact of the 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.920 matter is if the Rick Flair that had done those 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.000 training videos with Jay Lethal, if that Rick Flair, and 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.839 that was not that long ago, that was like a 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.920 month ago, two months ago, if that guy would have 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.480 been in the ring on Sunday night, I don't think 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.319 people would have been appalled. And I think honestly that 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.640 if the Rick Flair that was there Sunday, if that 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.679 Rick Flair had been in those training videos, I'm not 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.120 even sure this match would have ever taken place. So 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.360 I know people are are very upset with, you know, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.000 Flair being allowed to go in the ring and everything 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.800 like that, but I mean, honestly, if you watch those 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.679 training videos, it was it was I don't want to 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.920 say night and day, but it was very, very different, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.559 and what we got on Sunday night. I was terrified. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:08.120 I was petrified the entire match. I was wondering why 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.520 there was no one there to keep an eye on 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.200 Rick Flair when he would go down and not move 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.000 for extended periods of time when everybody else is doing 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.160 spots in the ring. And uh, he was lifted up 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.800 to the top rope for his superplex, he decided even 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.959 want to take it, and so he went back down 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.760 to the man j Lethal gave him a vertical suplex, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.920 and as God is my witness, he never he never 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.920 got to his feet again the entire match. Everything from 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.360 that point forward was crawling and laying there, and that 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.959 probably was when he passed out, as he claimed to Androide, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.440 And Uh, this has got to be the end, dude, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.480 It's got to be the end. You forgot about the 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.559 fact that he was bleeding like a stuck pig. Well, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.960 yeah he did. He did bleed, which also is probably 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.079 one of the reasons he was laying there like that. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.360 And he was drinking all weekend long. I'm sure there 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.920 was a drug alan dump. I'm sure he was banged 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.199 up during training, but it was a long emotional weekend 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:10.319 that then ended with the match, and there were a 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.400 lot of people I know that benefited from this weekend, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.640 so you know the fact that they put the whole 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.760 convention on and everything that was surrounding it, that was 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:23.199 cool with me. I never needed to see Rick Flair 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.839 back in the ring, you know, after Shawn Michaels let alone, 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.360 after the deal he did with Hulk Coogan in Impact. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.600 But that's Rick Flair. So it's one of those things 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.280 where you can't stop this man from doing what he 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.199 wants to do. A medical board could, but there was 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.640 none that did. And we see his training for what 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.320 he's been through. It was amazing, But I still didn't 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.600 need to see it. But it was as simple as 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:53.959 either ordered it or you didn't. And everything seems to 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.320 be okay coming out of it. We haven't heard anything 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.560 about anything with Rick Flair, but for me, the way 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.160 I was able to tolerate it because I hated watching it. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.160 I hated it. David Crockett was so happy and Doug 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.559 Dillinger was there, and for a guy that grew up 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.320 on all of that, that mid Atlantic Championship wrestling, that stuff, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.600 to celebrate that that that was good. The match itself, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.600 it goes down in history with what it was back 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:41.880 in a moment Observerer Live right in the show. Brian 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.240 Eilber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike'snumber viv also of 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:51.480 Wrestling Observer at dot com. Well, hey, at the end 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.920 of the day, I mean there was a lot of 0:12:54.000 --> 0:13:01.080 people there and I was told that I is Keith Mitchell. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:06.280 Was he the the Impact guy? Keith Mitchell, Right, Keith Mitchell, Yeah, 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.480 I mean confused him and Kevin Sullivan for some reason. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.920 But Keith Mitchell, he had retired and uh he actually 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.120 came back to do this show. And you could you 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.400 could tell watching it. I mean it looked packed and 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.400 the production looked very much like an Impact show, and 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.440 you know, there were all sorts of of names from 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.520 the past that were brought back and nostalgia wise, I 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.520 mean I enjoyed the show. I like the nostalgia. You know, 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.840 A huge fan of David Crockett. I watched all those 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:44.520 I'm the biggest fan maybe of Dave are Yeah, and uh, hey, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.000 you know what Onraida and Jay Lethal and Jeff Jarret. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.440 They did a great job in the match. Undertaker was there, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.480 Mick Foley was there obviously DDP because he made a 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.520 run in. Uh, Dolph Ziggler is Nick Nemo was there, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.840 so they had a lot of names backstage. Jimmy Valley 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.320 was there whenever saw somebody was there. So I think 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:09.480 at the end of the day, I think, at the 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.599 end of the day, Rick Flair, honest to god, I 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.960 don't think he's ever gonna wrestle again. And uh, you know, Charlotte, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.520 she was there, and she didn't put her foot down 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.800 on this match, but she did put her foot down 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.240 on certain things like the dive of the outside, which 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.000 in hindsight, she didn't need to bother because it wasn't 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.200 gonna happen. But I'm pretty sure that his family would 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.640 put their foot down if he tried to do this 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.960 again after I would hope, just for what everybody else 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.760 I think in the world, I don't know. Maybe look 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.880 some people, I guess we're dying for a snuff filding. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:46.320 But this was like watching like the Walendas, like Carl 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.840 Wolendo when he was old, like you know, and that 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.800 didn't end well. And it's like there was part of 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.000 this where it was being and it wasn't. They weren't 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.320 selling it directly this way, but when you watched the 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.720 videos and everything, and you know what this guy has 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.400 been through, and you think about what Rick Flair would 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.960 do in a match, including blade when you have a 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:13.480 heart that I mean, it was being sold for a 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.880 lot of people on will this guy die? Or we 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:21.080 could see news or history or whatever you'd want to 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:27.640 call it. And it was maccabre it was. But the 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.160 flip side of watching Rick Flair my entire life. If 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.200 that would have been it for Rick Flair, would he 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:40.080 have been incredibly content with that? You see how he 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.680 talks about how at this point is it was so 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.840 important for my career that Vince put the wou back in. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.080 It was so important, this match was the most important 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.480 of my life. This is what he is. He is 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.560 never anything else besides Rick Flair, and he was he 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.920 when he stopped being Rich Morgan Flair a long time ago. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.840 This is this is what he is. So in that way, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.400 if it was going to be the end, I don't 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.560 think could he have went out any other way? With 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:17.160 his entire family, his whole wrestling family and really everything 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.760 that how he looks at himself, whether for good or 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.760 for a lot of times really bad. He's nature boy, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.280 Rick Flair. Well, I will say this. My my point 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.560 and all of this is I don't think you can 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.480 see another Rick Flair match, but I would not be 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:38.480 surprised that. Well. My point is Flair can finish Flair, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.080 go ahead, Flair's Flair is not going to wrestle again. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.280 But I am quite confident that Conrad is going to 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.360 promote another show because you know, the Flair match, aside, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.480 the whole weekend was a big success and I think 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.440 everybody did very well. And I think that he's gonna 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.600 want to do this again. Will he do another show 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.080 like this? Will he just do another independent show? What's 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.800 he gonna do? I have no idea, but this was 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.080 to me clear and actually apparently they're During the they 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.000 had all those q and a' s and uh and 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.240 I think during the Q and A he jokingly asked 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.920 mcfoley if he wanted to do another match, which I 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.320 think would be a bad idea, But you know, I 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.359 looked up and down that show, and you know, it 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.720 wouldn't be the worst thing to see d DP do 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.760 one more match. Dude, I saw that guy. I wouldn't 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.359 be worried about him doing another match. And you know, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.320 I'm sure there's some other guys that you know, they could, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.720 they could arrange something to do something similar to this. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.760 So I think we will see another show of this nature, 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.120 But I don't think you're gonna see the Nature Boy 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.600 doing a match again. And by the way, you guys 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.200 can take that to the bank. You guys don't believe this. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.080 You don't believe this. You didn't believe me when I 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.040 told you things to be fine with Bianca bell Air. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.800 I told you guys this. I told you guys this 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.280 in December, and nobody believed me. I told you this 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.080 once you won the Royal Rumble, nobody believed me. I 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.880 told you this, and WrestleMania, nobody believed me. Now she's 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.240 beat Becky Lynch clean in the middle at Summer Slam 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.480 in front of thirty eight thousand people. Unless you're a 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.800 king that it was forty eight thousand people. Are you 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:16.240 gonna tell me you're not doing well now? Huh? I 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.560 talk about Summer Slam or do you have more to 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.800 say about the Nature Boy. I'm just amazed that you 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.520 had to really ram home the bridge of Rick Flair 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.359 is not gonna have a lot to get to the 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.040 fact that Conrad is gonna promote another show again, No 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.760 kiddning he's going to this was his fifth? Was he 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.639 booked it? I mean, no kidding. Cars, We're gonna have 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.119 another match, do you know what? Maybe it's gonna be 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:46.040 Brian Alvarez his last match. Are you free? I could 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.159 use an opponent. Hey listen, I have to is lay 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:57.280 on the mat for fifteen minutes. Huh? What kind of 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.680 rules is this under? Can we wait for a g 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.080 c W type of weekend and we can actually do 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.680 what you want to do, a barbed wire match? No? Yeah, yeah, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.280 I mean we could actually mix things since we could, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.639 we can merge blood sport with that. What are you 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.359 just talking about? How you're trying to talk to your 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.240 kid out of wanting to cut himself, and now you're 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.040 you want to do your only match as a barbed 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.040 wire match. I I don't guess you to cut himself. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.719 As far as me cutting others, I mean, in certain cases, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.880 I think that would be fine. That would be fine. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.000 Why don't you talk about SummerSlam right on? Bianco? But 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.640 I gotta match me and John Moxley against you. Who 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.640 do I want for your partner? Oh? No, I get 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.200 to choose maybe Craig choose no no no, no no 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.800 no no no. I anyway, Moxley is gonna hold that blade. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.800 You ain't gonna be cutting nobody. I'm gonna bring in 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.040 the ripper. Hey, one of us is a lot more 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.720 vain about our looks than the other is pal So 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.480 if any about that match, it would be you. Okay, 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.800 let's talk about SummerSlam. So this show was really good 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.920 for about an hour and a half, and then it 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:08.399 became an old school Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn excruciatingly along 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:14.160 video packages, dudes coming out to fake the attendants insufferably, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.160 along ring entrances, the whole nine yards. But it started 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.320 out really good, Old man River, I was so excited. 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:25.840 I was so excited when the show started because it's 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.119 the first Triple H pay per view, and literally the 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.159 show starts and Becky's music kids. They didn't have a 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.840 video package, we didn't have fifteen minutes or rigmarole. It 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.119 was like they got her down to the ring, then 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.760 they got Bianca down to the ring, and then they 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.800 had a very very good match, and they got fifteen 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:50.080 minutes and Bianca beat her clean in the middle after 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.840 going back and forth, and then when it's over Bailey's music. Kids. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.480 So Bailey comes down the aisle, and then the Code 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:03.040 of Sky, who had been fired, she got rehired. She 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.600 comes down the aisle and then the music hits and 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:13.160 outcomes the former EO Sharai who is now EO Sky, which, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.880 like a lot of people are furious about. But listen 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.440 to everybody, this is it's some of this is a 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.760 Vince thing, like when Vince gets weird about you know, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.600 I don't want anyone to be called junr okay, but 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.520 I'm sure that Nick con and Stephanie they're probably the 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.840 ones behind. Listen, we gotta brand these people. They all 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.080 have to have a new name. We don't want them 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.640 leaving and using their w W E names somewhere else. 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.639 Everybody's gonna get a new name. And EO Sharai was 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.879 the Queen of the Sky right that was her gimmick, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.080 So now she's EO Sky. I don't think this is 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.320 the end of the world. I don't know why everybody 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.399 is up in arms about this one. You should be 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.240 happy that she got immediately signed to a main roster 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.520 contract and got called up the second Vince was out 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.520 of there. Should be happy about that Who cares what 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:02.280 her name is. You could call her hot Dog Ferguson 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.399 for all I care. She's on the main roster and 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.200 she's gonna be wrestling. So they came out and I 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.800 was like, my god, look at this. He brought back Dakota, 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:17.240 he brought up Eo Bailey's back. Becky has turned baby face. 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.080 She's a baby face again. Thank god. Bianca beat Becky 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.119 and is a big, huge star like this, Women's Divisions 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.159 on fire. It's the first thing to happen on SummerSlam. 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.359 I was over the moon with joy. Then Logan Paul 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:36.159 beat the Miss in a good match fifteen minutes. And 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.359 you know, Logan Paul are great at WrestleMania, but bro, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:44.000 he's in there with you know, Ray Mysterio and and uh. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.560 But this was a singles match with the Miss, who 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.240 was not renown for his singles matches, and they he's 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.440 not and they had a good match. Logan Paul beat him. 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.320 He did so much impressive stuff that, believe it or not, 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.159 they actually cheered Agan Paul beating the Miss. He was 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.639 a baby faced. When this is over, we'll see how 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:10.080 long that lasts. But a good match. Give him his credit. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.840 He may not be great when it comes to your 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.679 average everyday wrestling match, but when he comes to these 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.520 celebrity type of deals, he is very, very good. And 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.520 he did his job with Logan Paul perfectly, including getting 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:28.080 that crowd to turn the heat back on himself more 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.639 Summer Slam. After this break, everybody this commercial break to 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.800 pay the bills for this national radio show, which is 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:51.920 called Wrestling Observer Live. Bagging the show. Ran Alba is 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.199 here Wrestling Observer Live, Maxemberviti also Wrestling Observer dot com. 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.920 Where were we well? 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