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Speaker 1: So so I'm seeing it being promoted. I know. In fact,

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Speaker 1: thousands of others and they're all working actors. And so

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Speaker 1: these are working models. And the problem with the mauling

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Speaker 1: industry is it is about modeling, yet the models have

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Speaker 1: become secondary to their own industry. They're they're sitting on

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Speaker 1: the purple edge. And then you've got like an agency,

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Speaker 1: like a traditional agency or an agent who's negotiating everything

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Speaker 1: on their behalf, hopefully in their best interests, but many

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Speaker 1: times not in the model's best interests um with the

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Speaker 1: client that wants to book them, and the model just

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Speaker 1: agency that says they're going to handle it form and

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Speaker 1: is happening correctly. And so the ball is pretty much

651
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Speaker 1: relinquishing the control over his or her career to the agent.

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Speaker 1: And the model doesn't set their rates, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a say on whether they get the job or to,

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Speaker 1: you know, to in the negotiation process. And we'll say,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna change all of that. We're gonna put the

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Speaker 1: models in the center of their universe as they should be.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna empower them, We're going to give them the

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Speaker 1: tools to guide their own careers. We aren't even going

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Speaker 1: to require them to have contracts with us. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be with us because they want to be with us.

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Speaker 1: That's a novel idea, right, That's that's the way I

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Speaker 1: like it. That's where I like it. Isn't that like

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Speaker 1: the way of like? That's I mean, truly, it's like

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Speaker 1: these contracts come into place and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: in handcuffs basically, and if they don't even know what

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Speaker 1: they're signing half the time, because it's like and we're like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. They're gonna be with

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Speaker 1: us because they want to be with us. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: we don't even care with a traditional agency. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter to us. We are going to be that foundation

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Speaker 1: for every model, that that uh stability from the first

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Speaker 1: day of modeling to the last day of modelings for

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Speaker 1: every single model, and we're the people they can turn to.

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Speaker 1: We're the ones that have their back. We do things

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Speaker 1: crazy weird, um from the standpoint of disruption. So we

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Speaker 1: we do this weird thing called back contracts on every

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Speaker 1: single client. Uh not so weird. Really. We do criminal

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Speaker 1: we do sex offender checks. We do a ID verification,

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Speaker 1: we do a verification of needs to they actually need

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Speaker 1: a higher model, I mean someone's you know, depending on

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Speaker 1: what they're who with this person and why they need

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Speaker 1: to hire a model, and they have to so the

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Speaker 1: clients actually have to apply just like the models need

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Speaker 1: to apply. And we want to create the safest environment

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Speaker 1: models in the world. As you mentioned, we're on the

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Speaker 1: way over twenty registered models already. Yeah, that's amazing market.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you just say twenty because I you know,

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Speaker 1: that means that this is this is this is resonating

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Speaker 1: with with with the industry. You know, it's a need

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Speaker 1: and that's why I can't let you just go twenty No, no,

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Speaker 1: that's in it because we know how all it is

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Speaker 1: the lunch. Launch an app and then also create a

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Speaker 1: trust to the environment. And that's what you're doing. You're

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Speaker 1: creating a trust to the environment with agent Ink. That's

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Speaker 1: the app. You can download it Google Play Store, Apple

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Speaker 1: Store is available on all the platforms. Can I share

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Speaker 1: a quick story with your mark about my experience as

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Speaker 1: UH a guy who represented UH models in the industry.

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Speaker 1: UH early on in the early two thousands, UH represented

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Speaker 1: several models. They were video models and UH so videos

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Speaker 1: are really popular and especially in the urban industry. UH

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Speaker 1: and BT. You could always just turn on be E

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Speaker 1: Tea and to see UH how dominant the video models were.

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Speaker 1: And when you get on set, they had no dressing rooms,

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Speaker 1: they had no they had they generally had no food.

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Speaker 1: UH they and I wou was always have to go

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Speaker 1: to set with my clients to make sure they would

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Speaker 1: treat it with respect. You know, you get there, you

710
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Speaker 1: basically had the stage till the shoot was over with.

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Speaker 1: There was no time window. It really was not a

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Speaker 1: comfortable environment and plus a lot of times the women

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Speaker 1: will have on bikinis, so they will be dressed with

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Speaker 1: a limited amount of clothes. Sometimes these video shoots are

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Speaker 1: at night and it can be cold, So I am

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Speaker 1: really champion. I'm sure you've heard these type of stories before.

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Speaker 1: That's why you started this app. But this is the

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Speaker 1: reality of why it's important to understand why Mark app

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Speaker 1: is blowing up, why it's needed because as a professional,

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Speaker 1: and I consider myself one of the top managers in

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Speaker 1: I had to protect them not only from the environment,

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Speaker 1: but of certain situations so they would come home safe

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Speaker 1: because they can be bad at there. Correct, Mark, that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely correct. Your story is is pretty much the norm.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was not, and that's that's what we're

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Speaker 1: out the change and emailed it. I mean, we we

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Speaker 1: we looked at the big picture of this industry and

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Speaker 1: we said, the fabulous. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: great industries out in the industries one of them. But

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Speaker 1: over two years ago. We launched just you know this year,

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Speaker 1: and we did this with these the intent of making

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Speaker 1: it better to about the clients and the models. So

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Speaker 1: this isn't really a two sided thing. We said, let's

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Speaker 1: look at the entire industry that we put on the whiteboard.

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Speaker 1: How would we redesign the industry today and not just

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Speaker 1: try to put bandies on a ship that has a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of holes in it. And so we kind

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Speaker 1: we weren't us support foundation, we could provide value to everyone.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just to the models. Although without the

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Speaker 1: to fall apart. And we definitely, you know, came in

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Speaker 1: that one the traditional payment cycle for a model after

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Speaker 1: job is thirty days, sixty sometimes ninety and even sometimes

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Speaker 1: this far out as a hundred and eighty days after

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Speaker 1: good Lord dot com. She's on the phone. This is

864
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Speaker 1: an old friend. I've been seeing it on TV. You know.

865
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm kind of jealous and I see people on TV

866
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: that I like, you know, but it's kind of like

867
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: a good jealous, you know, because you go you see

868
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: them developer, you see their career, and she has a

869
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: beautiful smile and she's but she's always eating. That's why

870
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm jealous, because everybody knows me, knows I'm a foodie,

871
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: and I've seen her do a lot of these little

872
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: shows where she's doing desserts and or nothing makes me

873
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: mad when I see a great dessert on TV and

874
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I can't eat it. My next guest is a celebrity

875
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: chelf and she's a regular own the Food Network. She

876
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: not co host a show on the Food Network and

877
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: it's a popular digital on pop very popular on the

878
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: digital platform on the Food Network. And then show it's

879
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: called Let's Eat. She's also an entrepreneur and the name

880
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: of her program or company, I should say, it's called

881
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Life of the Party. Please welcome to money Making Conversation.

882
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: Chef Jamaica, beautiful introduction. Thank you. You know I didn't

883
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: say your last name because you know nowadays you know

884
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: that's you know, you celect your celebrity that you know,

885
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: celebrities only just do the chef and then the first name.

886
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: You know that now right, Well, if it's almost like

887
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: the Oprah, you don't need it anymore. I feel like

888
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm the only Jamaica, right. I've learned this in life.

889
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: You're right with people gonna here and they shift to me.

890
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Has always been. Let me just here a little background

891
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: about my relationship with her. When Steve Harvey Nour did

892
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: our adio short moved from New York to Atlanta with

893
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: officers and Buckhead and so we had this deal with

894
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: this agency with here Shot Farm that was right correct,

895
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Here Shot Farm Sausage, and we had a little kitchen

896
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: and she would come over and she cooked these meals.

897
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: I showed my little kitchen and she'd be back there

898
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: and then we sample of food on air. That's how

899
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: I met her, and so and so and so. That

900
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: was just just seeing her back then. She's always tell me, Rashan,

901
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I want my on TV show. I go, okay, go

902
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: for it. I'm gonna be big in this business. And

903
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm just telling the truth. And she just but she

904
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: was focused and she knew it. She didn't know how

905
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: she was gonna do it, but she knew that that

906
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: was that was a goal of hers. And I'm just

907
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: telling you. I would just see you on TV doing

908
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: these doing these little guest segments being a guest judge.

909
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Tell people how it all really got rolling for you.

910
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: I know you started, you know, you started with me.

911
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Back there there was like two thousands, two thousands, eight

912
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: nine nine, and and you you came in first of all.

913
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: This was still that professionalism. Okay, I knew her brand.

914
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Beautiful smile. She always had a face for TV. To

915
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: let your note, I always had a face to smile

916
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: for TV. So when she talked with you doing TV,

917
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: some people tell me they're gonna do TV. I go. Really,

918
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I didn't say that with her. Well, I appreciate that,

919
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: but no, it's funny how I actually got started, because

920
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people think, oh, I just fell right

921
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: into the to the chevro of culinary world. I started

922
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: Corporate America right out of college, like I have a

923
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: degree in marketing and business, and I was in Corporate

924
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: America for several years and it was just you know how,

925
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people can identify with this.

926
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: You you get into a career, you think it's going

927
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: to be so outstanding, and then I just got there

928
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is not me. I quickly

929
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Speaker 1: realized I don't want to be in a meeting after

930
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: a meeting talking about meetings while we're having so many meetings,

931
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: And it was just like I felt changed to my desk.

932
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was being fulfilled and utilizing

933
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: my full talent. So it was back in with two

934
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Speaker 1: thousand one and I was working at PR Company in Atlanta,

935
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: and it was right after nine eleven and they started,

936
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, losing clients and laying people off. And they

937
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: came to me and said, we can either demote you

938
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: or you can go. And I was like, wait a minute,

939
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: this is my chance. At first I was like, wait,

940
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I got bills to pay, I got student loans,

941
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I need to stay. But in the instant, I said,

942
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: this is my time to take that leap of faith.

943
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: I gotta jump right now. And I took it, and

944
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: I said if I just let me go, and everybody

945
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: in the room looked at me like I was crazy.

946
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: And I didn't really have a plan in mind. I

947
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: just knew that I could not go to that job

948
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: or do that career for the rest of my life.

949
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: I knew there was so much more for me. And

950
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: right after that, I went to UM the Art Institute

951
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: of Atlanta for culinary school because I always loved to cook.

952
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I grew up with my grandmother showed me how to cook.

953
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I was that little chunky kid. Everybody was on the

954
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: playground like I was in the kitchen with my grandmother,

955
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: been learning how to like need dough and stuff like that.

956
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: But I never really considered it as a career. So

957
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: when I went to the culinary school, I said, this

958
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: is what I love to do. Let me just see

959
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: what happens. And it was the best decision that I

960
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: ever made. So it was like I took hay cut

961
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: and my parents didn't understand what I was trying to do.

962
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Everybody thought I was crazy, but I knew that was

963
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: the path that I had to take. And a lot

964
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: of times when people think it's crazy, that's a decision

965
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: that that's the best decision for you because you can't

966
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: let everybody. Everybody can't understand what you're trying to do.

967
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: You gotta know for yourself. And that was the one

968
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: thing I always love to do, and it's a career choice.

969
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Everybody's eating all the time, so I knew I would

970
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: never be laid off. I would never be out of

971
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: a job because everybody's always eating. So that's really what

972
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: I said. Let me do the chef thing you right

973
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: there before we go, I'm gonna get more into her

974
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: because she's really a great person as you can tell

975
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: about her motivation. Let's talk about the show you're currently

976
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: starting off the Food Network, Let's Eat. I want you

977
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: to break it down because you have two other additional

978
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: celebrity co host on the show. Let's talk about that

979
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: because now it used to be just on Sundays, but

980
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: now you can catch seven is on the digital platform.

981
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Young People love me on the go with you all

982
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: the time. Chef Jimika on the Go write that right there.

983
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: The show is called Let Eat, and as I describe it,

984
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: it is the most delicious thirty minutes you will ever experience.

985
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: I saw that I saw yesterday with a man. Did

986
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: you get hungry? A girl? A man? Man? Because I'm

987
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: just I'm just like that. All my friends know me, chef,

988
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: they go ra Sean, you don't get no way. You

989
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: eat with it. You want to eat. You know, I

990
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: go to Buffet's, I my dessert before I eat my meal.

991
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like that. In fact, you're this morning, I

992
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: had Stirs talking about let's see, let's talk about your show.

993
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: We were talking about food and let's focus myself because

994
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: we can talk food all that. But no, it's it's

995
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: the talk show style, and I mean it's the three

996
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: of us. It's another host, Brandon Malloyd, she's a Internet sensation,

997
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: and Chef Steward O'Keefe's an Irish chef. So it's a great,

998
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean diverse panel. And we all come from different

999
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: walks of life and we all bring a little bit

1000
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: of ourselves to the table. So for me, I am

1001
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Southern and Caribbean, and I'm just silly. I love having

1002
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: a good time in the kitchen. Start bring the realness,

1003
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: I bring those one liners, I bring it. I just

1004
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: make it fun. If you can't have fun with around

1005
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: your food and with your food, then you shouldn't be

1006
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. So I mean, I give you recipes,

1007
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: we give you hacks, we give you tips. It's really

1008
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: about making your life more simple in the kitchen. And

1009
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: it's a little something for everybody. I mean, we're going

1010
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: for a younger demographic. Could we have a lot of

1011
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: digital um components to the show, a lot of like

1012
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: the most instagram noble foods and crazy things you see online.

1013
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: But we also have it for the moms and the dads,

1014
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: and we have recipes to get the kids involved. Holiday recipes,

1015
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: good fall recipes when it's coming up it's getting cold out,

1016
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: starting to get cold outside, Like those are the types

1017
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: of recipes that you need, a quick, easy, affordable and

1018
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: your family and your friends are gonna love it. Like

1019
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: that's what we really do for on this show. Well,

1020
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: that's why I love about the show, because see, I'm

1021
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: a see I'm a person that I I can cook

1022
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: and I can bait. I hate complicated recipes, like it

1023
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be complicated, cooking to never be and that's what

1024
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: and and and videos and food videos are the most

1025
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: popular videos and social media they are. So now you're

1026
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: saying something that was really interesting. You're saying that the

1027
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: the young young cooks, the young people, this show is

1028
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: engaging them. How do you engage the younger generation. I

1029
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: have a daughter who twenty one. You know, she's trying

1030
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: to cook. She's always talk calling me every day, Dad,

1031
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: I made this to day. You know. I've told her

1032
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: to watch your show, you know, and I don't know

1033
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: if she's watching you because you gotta watch this shows.

1034
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: The show is really cool. You can pick up some

1035
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: nice little hits because I like to show because there

1036
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: are three different points of views. And that really helps

1037
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: me out because it lets me know that everybody who

1038
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: cooks are bake has their own take on something. And

1039
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: sometimes when I watch the show, by looking at a

1040
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: different persons take, I said, oh yeah, I would have

1041
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: done it that way. That's why I really like to

1042
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: show one of the layers, several layers of the same meal.

1043
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: It is and it takes a lot of the classics

1044
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: that you're you may have grown up on it with

1045
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: as a kid, or you may be aware of you

1046
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: tasted before. But we put a little twist to it

1047
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: and kind of bring it into where we are current

1048
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: flee and how people eat and with their time and

1049
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: their budget. I got my Quip electric toothbrush. I love

1050
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: my smiles, I love my teeth. When was the last

1051
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: time you replaced your toothbrush? Do you always brush twice

1052
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: a day for four or two minutes? Paying attention to

1053
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: these good habits as a huge impact on your health.

1054
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: That's right. I'm introducing Quip spelled Qui pole, the new

1055
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Speaker 1: electric toothbrush that helps to fix the brushing habits that

1056
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Speaker 1: most people get wrong. Equip does this with a lightweight

1057
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Speaker 1: and sleep design. Simple time vibrations and god In pulses

1058
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Speaker 1: give you a perfect too. Many clean Bolkia electric toothbrushers

1059
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