1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck. Get's going 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: right now, and we've got a couple of big stories 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: this hour to hit you with, and also a great guess, 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: David's Wig will be with us on how Democrats were 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: completely wrong on everything when it came to COVID, school 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: locked school shutdowns on lockdown, which play and I have 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: said for a long time. But you know the you 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: know the meme that goes around always of Schwarzenegger and 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Carl Weather's hand in hand from Predator. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Clay that was like us on COVID. You know that's right. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: We were just just two guys with giant biceps locking 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: locking hands to come together on an issue. And David's 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Wig apparently with us there too on this one, saying 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: that this is total madness. By the way, Predator, I 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: think all in top five action movie of all time. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm even persuadable. It may be my favorite action movie 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: of all time. Side note, but it's that or die 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Hard for me, Predator or die Hard, I don't know. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: I could go out. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: I think Diehard is the best action movie ever made, 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: and I know we're gonna get I can't disagree. I 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: know what it is but blown up like Gladiator and 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 3: Brave Heart. There are other movies that are higher level 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: filmed historical epic. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Those are historical epic. I don't consider those pure action. 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: In the old VHS store they would I don't think 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: they would have gone. And I don't think you put 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Gladiator in action. Gladiator is almost like like ben Hur 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: or The Ten Commandments. It's like a timeless historical epic 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: that I think is one of the best movies in 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: my for my money, one of the best movies ever made. 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: And I think, oh, I tell you that when I 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: was in the hospital with my wife and we were 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know what we're going to 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: watch to pass the time as we were there for 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: days waiting for a little baby to come out. She's like, 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, I haven't seen Blackhawk Down in 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: a while, such a good movie. 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, let's do that. 40 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: So we're in the hospital, well watching black Hawk that 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: another great movie. 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Anyway, I forget what I was. 43 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, we're going to dive into that with David's 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: why coming up here in a little bit, And I 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: agree Clay's take on Diehard is strong. Let's get into 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the other two big stories right now, Pete Hegseth still 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense. We knew exactly what this was. They're 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: trying to come up with the city. You know, they're 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: running the same play hoping that they catch the opposing 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: team in a moment of disarray, meaning Trump's team. And 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. But there's something 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: weird going on there because a bunch of people around Pete. 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's Secretary of Hegseth, but to Clay, 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: to me, he's always. 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Going to be Pete at some level. Right Pete is 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: he's fired, he went on Fox this morning. We'll get 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: into this. 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: People around him have been fired pending investigation for leaks. 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: But were these people that Pete knew before and trusted? 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: Something is going on. I don't actually, Clay, do you 61 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: feel like you have a really good read on this 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: yet as to what's going on? Something funky is happening 63 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: in the upper reaches of the Pentagon right now. There 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: are clearly some people who are trying to recap our buddy, 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Pete the Secretary of Defense. 66 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: The only thing that makes sense to me, and I 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: don't want to go too far into the conspiracy rabbit hole. 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: But there seems to be an internal debate right now 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: over how we handle Iran, and I'm not taking either side. 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you what I think the 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: two sides are. One is, hey, we're going to try 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: to peacefully work out a deal that is not going 73 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: to require the use of force as it pertains to 74 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: nuclear weapons in Iran. Right That is what I would say. 75 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: The pathway we are on right now is as it 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: pertains to the negotiations. The other side is you can't 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: trust Iran at all. We need to hit them while 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: they are at their weakest. Syria has collapsed. Hesbill has 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: basically done. The hamas Terrists are done, the Hooties are done. 80 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Iran has never been weaker. Now is the time to 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: ensure that they're never able to get a nuclear weapon. 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Those are the two sides. Hag Seth seems clearly to 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: be on the side of, hey, let's try to limit 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: our use of force here, and there do seem to 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: be people inside of the Trump administration that want to 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: use force the only reason, like does that seem like 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: there could be like kind of the underlying essence of 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: what's going on here that and that also ties into 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: what some of the of the leaks have have been. 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: I find myself and again, Pete went to a rock 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: for his country, remember the military. I went to a 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: rock for our country, remember the CIA. 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: And there'll be more cool CIA stories, by the way, 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you because now the book has been cleared, 96 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: so as the book gets closer. Actually, that was why 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I had to be held up, because I talked about 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: some of the stuff from back in the day because 99 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: it's been a long time now, and the Agency's like, yeah, 100 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you can talk about that stuff that I've never talked 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: about before, that none of you ever heard before. So 102 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: that's an exciting little preview of yeah, there'll be some 103 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: good There'll be some good stuff, some good story that. 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm actually curious to see. The stories. 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: I haven't even necessarily told my man Clay some of 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. That's what I'm saying. I'm classified, but now 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: it's not classified because I got it cleared, So I'm 108 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: excited to talk about some of this stuff. But anyway, 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: back to speaking classified not classified. Pete has said that 110 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: there were leakers and that he had to get rid 111 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: of them. 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: This is cut too. He was on. 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: This is from Fox and Friends, right guys this morning, 114 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of a lot of chatter 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: around this. This is cut to Here's Secretary of Defense, 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: hegseeth on this latest attempt to let's be honest, to 117 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: oust him play it. 118 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: What was shared over signal then and now, however you 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: characterize it was informal, unclassified coordinations for media coordination other things. 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: That's what I've said from the beginning. 121 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: At the beginning, it was left wing reporters from the 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: Atlantic who got a hold of it and then wanted 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 4: to create a problem for the president. 124 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: This is what it's all about. 125 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: Trying to get at President Trump and his agenda. And 126 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 4: so when we had leaks, which we have had, we 127 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: did a serious leak investigation, and through that leak investigation, unfortunately, 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: we found some folks that we believe we're not holding 129 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: to the protocols that we hold dear here at the 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Defense Department. Through that investigation, they had been moved on 131 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: and that investigation continues. 132 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: So you is there anything else that could be going on. 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's clear Hegseth is not like 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: one of the cool kids who has spent his whole 135 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: career in the Pentagon, and there's an outsider insider dynamic 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: that's clear right that it's going on. But is it 137 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: iron Do you buy into me that it being Ultimately 138 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: this is a battle over what our response to Iran 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: should be or is it something more that we're missing? 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: He will well let yes, yes, based on some of 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the leaks. Also, our friend Under Secretary of Defense Bridge Colby, 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: who I was very in favor of because I've known 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: him forever and he's brilliant and he's one of us. 144 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: There was a little bit of. 145 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: Resistance to him now, to be fair, like Senator Cotton 146 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: voted for him, and you know, it all went through, 147 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: but there were questions about where he was on Iran. 148 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: There were concerns that he was too duvish on Iran. 149 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Knowing Bridge, Well, I would never consider him duvish on anything. 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: He's a he's an America first patriot, right, He's like, 151 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: whatever America has to do to protect ourselves, our interests 152 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: in our people, is what we're going to do. On 153 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the issue of use of force against Iran, though it's 154 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: not as clear as just yeah, blow up their stuff 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: because they're bad and there's no blowback on us. And 156 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I think those of us who come from the what 157 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: I consider the nine to eleven generation, a lot of 158 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: you and a lot of you paid a very serious 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: price in being away from your family, away from your 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: wife or your husband, you know, twelve maybe even fifteen 161 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: months if you got extended deployment in Iraq. Maybe some 162 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: of you have been wounded, maybe some of you lost 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: brothers in arms. It's like, you all know what I'm 164 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: talking about here. We don't want to get into some 165 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Mid East war that we shouldn't be getting into. That 166 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: is a lesson that our generation, Clay people your age, 167 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: my age in particular, learned because we were the ones, 168 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: age wise who surged into this. 169 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: It was really you know. 170 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Millennials, gen X, They were the ones who were predominantly 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: serving in the Middle East and Iraq specifically. So, but 172 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: I just want this debate to be happening. I don't 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: want this debate to be knife fights behind closed doors 174 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: in the e ring of the Pentagon. I want this 175 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: to be out in public so we know what's going 176 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: on here. And so that's part of this makes me. 177 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: It makes me uncomfortable because I see that there's this 178 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: little war of leaks, and there's this this, these games 179 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: going on, and this stuff is deadly serious. If we're 180 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: really talking about use of force against Iran, the American people, 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, this needs to be out there so we 182 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: understand what the implications are. I don't think that we 183 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: should wake up one day and just find out that 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the reactors are smoldering and let's see what happens next. 185 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I do not like that approach to this. 186 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Now. 187 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Trump's going to do that, but I 188 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: do get the sense there are some people in the 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: upper echelons of the Pentagon who do want that to happen. Well, 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: I think the danger is just this. We have no 191 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: idea what Iran's gonna do, and in the same way 192 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: you can if you're being honest. The reason why North 193 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Korea and Iran want nuclear weapons is because once you 194 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: have nuclear weapons, the regime in power is basically protected 195 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: from external threats forever. This is some people call the 196 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Libya lesson, or even the Ukraine lesson. I might add Ukraine, 197 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: third largest nuclear power in the world, signs the Budapest Memorandum, 198 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: and Russia, the UK, and the US say don't worry, 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: give up your nukes. And we'll protect you. Yikes, that 200 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: didn't work out well for them, so you might have Kadafi. 201 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Kadafi thing I think is even more visceral because of 202 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: what happened to him, and he was trying to play 203 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: ball on the WMD front after what happened in Iraq 204 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: did not work out well for him. 205 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I think that's the lesson. 206 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: If you're out there, I think you have to consider 207 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: the goals of the other side. And I don't buy 208 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: that Iran's going to give up nuclear weapons because why 209 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: would they. So my only thought is I don't trust 210 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: them to negotiate fairly. I also don't trust them to 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: give up their ultimate goal, which is nuclear weapons. If 212 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: I was in charge of Iran, if I were the 213 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Iatolic Clay, can you imagine the Iotolic Clay would want 214 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: nuclear weapons because the way that you protect your power 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: from external threats is by everybody being afraid that you 216 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: might use a nuclear weapon on them. Now, Iran has 217 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: all sorts of challenges internally because the theocracy that took 218 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: over through the Iyatola really destroyed the freedoms of the 219 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: vast majority of the Iranian people, and that tension is 220 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: out there Buck. Have you seen some of the videos 221 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: of Iran in like nineteen seventy eight, when people are 222 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: just women are just walking around in skirts and dresses 223 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: and like in modern cities. 224 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: It was a hip happened in place before the Ayatola 225 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: came along. 226 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: And then suddenly you can't be walking around without wearing 227 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: a burka. You cannot go watch a soccer match if 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: you're a woman. 229 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: The way the same thing was true about Afghanistan pre 230 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Soviet invasion and Taliban. It was far more westernized and 231 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: liberal on the streets of Kabo, not as much as 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: Iran was, but they didn't have them dressing like full beekeepers. 233 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: So there's a lesson here. 234 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: I mean, my point on this is, and look, we're 235 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: gonna have to make a decision, and there's gonna be 236 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: a lot of smart people arguing a variety of different perspectives. 237 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: I am just highly skeptical that Iran is going to say, oh, 238 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: you know what, you're right, we shouldn't really have nuclear weapons. 239 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: I think they're just going to lie to us and 240 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: continue to try to create nuclear weapons. 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: Well here is I actually see this strategically, I think 242 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: largely the same way that you do on this, I 243 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: would say the options are lettern go nuclear, right, whether 244 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: people say that should be an option or not, the 245 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: reality is they could and we've been told that they 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: are very close to it. 247 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: Now. 248 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Part of this is that we've been told they're very 249 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: close for more than a decade, and so what is 250 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: very close even mean at this point? And how accurate 251 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: is our assessment of their program. I'm sure the Israelis 252 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: are probably telling us a whole lot. They have better 253 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: intel on this than anybody else, But how accurate is it? Okay, 254 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: that's part one of it. There's strike and just try 255 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: to remove this threat forever, or there's status quo, which 256 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: is can we box them, you know, box them out 257 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: from going all in with negotiation. This was a little 258 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: bit of the Obama approach. It was actually worse than that, 259 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: because Obama sold out all other US policy in the 260 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Middle East to get an Iran deal that didn't actually 261 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: have worthwhile enforcement mechanisms and the incentive structure necessary for 262 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: the abandonment of the program. It's like, do we want 263 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: to live on the knife's edge here essentially, or rather, 264 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: should the Middle East live on the knife's edge for 265 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future? 266 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: Clay. 267 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Really, So there's three pathways, right, strike, let them get it, 268 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: or status quo, which is waiting to see if they're 269 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: going to get it, orf we're going to strike. It 270 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: doesn't because I don't think there's any world in which 271 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: we say, oh, we've got such an ironclad deal with them, 272 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: They're never going to do this. 273 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: That's just insane. 274 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, they're just trying to extract the maximum concessions 275 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: possible before they because once they go nuclear. 276 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: You know, guess what, that's it. 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: There's no they're protected forever from anybody trying to externally 278 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: remove their positions, people from positions of power. But I 279 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: understand and I share the overall sentiment that we don't 280 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: want to warn in the Middle East. We don't want 281 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: another war in the Middle East. We really really don't. 282 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: And you know, iron has seventy million people, It's a 283 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: sophisticated country. We don't want it. 284 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Now would Iran be able to people say, well, if 285 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: we struck their reactors, that's that right then with isn't 286 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: it over? What if Iran does What if the regime 287 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: decides that it's break the glass time for them, and 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: now they're just gonna push all their proxies, and now 289 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: the proxies are in a weaker position. As you can see, 290 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: this gets very complicated. But if they engage in a 291 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: bunch of mass casualty attacks against US interests or forces 292 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: or allies in the region in response to it, do 293 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: we let that regime stay in power? It starts to 294 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: look like an Afghanistan situation with al Qaeda, right it. 295 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: So it's messy, but something clay is going on at 296 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the Pentagon, and we'll continue to watch this and we'll 297 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: see if you know, we can get Sean Parnell, our 298 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: buddy who's also over at the Senior Echelon's there. I'll 299 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: reach out to him and see if he can come 300 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: on and talk to us about what's going on. 301 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: He may. 302 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are limitations, of course, and there is 303 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: classified concerns here, but he can tell us what he's 304 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: allowed to tell us. There's a phrase you're gonna hear 305 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: later this year in the news cycle, maybe even before 306 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: Memorial Day. The term is sovereign wealth funds, and it 307 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: refers to a fund that all citizens of a country 308 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: benefit from after the nation invests in the development of 309 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: an asset. In our nation's case, there are more than 310 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: a few informed people who believe that our nation has 311 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: an asset worth one hundred and fifty trillion dollars and 312 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: has been buried on American soil. This endowment, so to speak, 313 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: is so large it could pay off our national debt 314 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: four times over. 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Sorry, I got my guest 391 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: timeslots confused here, but he's fantastic and weciate and being 392 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: here with us. Congressman Roy, appreciate you, and let's talk 393 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: about this. Why are your colleagues all of a sudden 394 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: taking these taxpayer funded boondoggles down to l Salvador. 395 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: What do they think they're going to prove with this? 396 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 5: Well, let's kind of hope we're going to talk about 397 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 5: A and M and UT baseball and Austin, but we'll 398 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 5: get to that in a little bit. But look, we've 399 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 5: got we've got my Democratic colleague are doing what they 400 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: do best right now. And what I mean by that 401 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 5: is they very much believe, and I believe they mean this. 402 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: They believe that non citizens should vote. They believe that 403 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: non citizens should be able to flood into the United States, frankly, 404 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: at whatever level they see fit, regardless of the law. 405 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: And they believe that they're they're in better standing to 406 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 5: try to go defend somebody who has very obvious ties 407 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: to MS thirteen, with two courts having acknowledged that very 408 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: strong reality or likelihood, and they're fine going down to 409 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 5: try to defend them rather than standing up for the 410 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: Americans who were hurt. Now, I mean a lot of 411 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 5: people have been saying this. I mean, that's nothing new 412 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: about what I'm saying. But look, I got to be 413 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: very personal here. When I've gotten to know Alexis Nunger At, 414 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 5: the wonderful twenty eight year old woman whose daughter Jocelyn 415 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: was murdered last summer by Trende and Agua outside of Houston. 416 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 5: That's a real person, A real individual who lost their 417 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 5: life directly. It's consequences the people released into our country. 418 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 5: And now Democrats want to go to Al Salvador to 419 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 5: hold up as a poster child an individual who has 420 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 5: an order of removal, who had his wife go like 421 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: file charging against him, who was stopped transporting a car 422 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: load of illegals in a car, and who has non 423 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 5: affiliation on MS thirteen. And that is the poster child 424 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: for who Democrats would have put front and center. Not 425 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: Rachel Morandon her family, not Joscelyn Hungary's family, not Kaylea 426 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: Hamilton's family. And that's how out of touch Democrats are. 427 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: But the good news is President Trump is trying to 428 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: do the right thing, and Republicans in Congress hopefully are 429 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: waking up to try to support what President Trump is doing. 430 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: How much of this is just a big structural issue. 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: We were talking earlier in the show Congressman about the 432 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: fact that this is just basically a math problem. If 433 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: Biden is going to have, as he did, let in 434 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: around ten million illegals, and if you look at the 435 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: rate with which Trump is able to deport, let's say 436 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: he's going to be able to get three hundred and 437 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: fifty thousand people from inside the country out. Basic math 438 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: would say it would take thirty years of that to 439 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: get the ten million that just came in in the 440 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: last four years, to say nothing of all the people 441 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: who've come in before. How much of this is structural 442 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: in that the president has to have the ability to 443 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: get people out of the country as easily as the 444 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: prior president had to let people into the country. 445 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: That's the real battle here in essence, isn't it. 446 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where very well stated. And so for those 447 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: of us who in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, even under 448 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: the Trump administration, who was dealing with the complexities of 449 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: the law to try to secure the border himself, and 450 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: ultimately COVID was a part of that as well. But 451 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 5: then all through the Bide administration when we were all saying, guys, 452 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: they're doing this on purpose. They're violating and abusing parole 453 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: and asylum in our country. We put in place these 454 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: laws to try to help people, and they're abusing these 455 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: to flood the zone. It's intentional because they know how 456 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: hard it will be to remove them. Right now, think 457 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 5: about this, Democrats are doubling down on this guy. Imagine 458 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 5: what they'll do when it is the you know grandmother, 459 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 5: you know who is not a criminal or doesn't have 460 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 5: a criminal history, who came here illegally and was wrongfully 461 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: paroled into the United States, put ahead of other people 462 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: flooding our zone, burdening our systems and medicating the hospital 463 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: and all that. But isn't a criminal. You know how 464 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 5: that will go. And to your point about the numbers, Okay, 465 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: this is why the president and why its team are 466 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: fighting this so hard. The president needs to have significant authority, 467 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: and I believe does to push back and release people 468 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: who were wrongfully put into the United States to or 469 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 5: citizens of other countries. It is the only way to 470 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 5: have a sovereign nation. I believe that the president. I 471 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 5: believe the Vice president. I believe Stephen Miller, I believe 472 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 5: Tom Mahoeman. I believe they are all correct when they 473 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 5: are trying to push back on that notion. 474 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Speaking to Congressmanship Ruy out of Texas a congressman, and 475 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: what is it that they I asked Clay this yesterday. 476 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: We tried to walk through this so to make the 477 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Democrats who were going down to El Salvador not for 478 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: vacation but to meet with Abrago Garcia. To make them happy, 479 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: Trump would negotiate a I guess a deal or put 480 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: it in a request with Buquali, the president of Elsalvador, 481 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: to bring this illegal back to America, so that then 482 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: we could say, hey, he's an illegal and send him 483 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: back to El Salvador. Or or is it just that 484 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: they want to bring him back and then try to 485 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: jam up the process so he gets to stay, Like 486 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: what is their preferred outcome? 487 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: The goal of Democrats is to empower courts to be 488 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: able to process every single individual who was parolled into 489 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 5: the United States or released into the United States under 490 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: ASTYLO laws under Biden, which is a million people, and 491 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: to be able to say that each one of them 492 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: has an individual claim and do process right to get 493 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 5: into court to adjudicate the claim. And I don't believe 494 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: that is accurate. Right, they had an administrative process we're 495 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 5: going through and determining what their status is, but they 496 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: do not like this is not due process in the 497 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 5: sense for all your listeners out there right there, these 498 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 5: individuals aren't charged with a crime like murder as a 499 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: non citizen. They come in here and they murder somebody, 500 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: or I mean some of them, by the way, But 501 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 5: in this question, it's not that as to whether, okay, 502 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: are they getting to process, are they getting a lawyer, 503 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: are they getting a chance to go into court and 504 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: prove their guilt or innocence. This is literally a question 505 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: of status and it's an administrative process and they're trying 506 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: to get into court. So yeah, I mean, Steven Miller 507 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: outlined this pretty well when you describe the situation with 508 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 5: Garcia down in l Salvador is saying, well, okay, you 509 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: want to fly him back here, Well, we can release 510 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 5: them to some other country. Right, So even if you 511 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 5: accept that we can't send him to Al Salvador because 512 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 5: he's threatened by some other game, which was his position 513 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: five years ago, he would still be deportable to another 514 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 5: country because a judge has already issued an order of removal. 515 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 5: And that is not the best of my understanding, appealable 516 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 5: other than in the context of the administrative proceedings in questions, 517 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 5: it's not a due process claim. So this is what 518 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 5: democrats are trying to do. They're trying to gain the 519 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 5: system in order to achieve the objective. They're objective of 520 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 5: NGOs going into court and filing suit on every individual 521 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 5: who has released into our country, so the president cannot 522 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: release or remove them by class as Joe Biden allowed 523 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: them to come in by class. 524 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: Congressman Hip Roway with us right now. Earlier this show, 525 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: we started off with a clip that I bet you've 526 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: seen that has gone viral of Elizabeth Warren trying to 527 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: explain why she in any way backed the mental and 528 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: physical fitness of Joe Biden. I'm curious what is the 529 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: long term fallout in your mind of the biggest why 530 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: that's been told in a very, very long time when 531 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: it comes to the legacy media and also behind the scenes. 532 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: Were Democrats in Congress were they acknowledging that they thought 533 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: there were issues with Biden but they wouldn't say it publicly. 534 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: How much discussion do you think there was among Democrats 535 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: about what all of us, and certainly we've been talking 536 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 3: about on this show for years, could clearly see. 537 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: Well to the second question, which relates to the first. 538 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: For the most part, my Democrat colleagues I've met had 539 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: a handful of friends who would very honestly and openly 540 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: acknowledge their concerns when you'd have a privateversation. But They 541 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 5: were very tight lift about it publicly because the overwhelming 542 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 5: motivating factor for Democrats for the last nine years has 543 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 5: been hostility to Donald Trump. Sid that has literally been 544 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: their entire motivating factor. So it did not matter to 545 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: them that Joe Biden was very clearly mentally not present. 546 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if you all remember, but last July 547 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 5: after the debate, when. 548 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: I think we lost it there for a second, broke up, 549 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: see if we can get him back here sec to 550 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: finish up the interview. The other thing that's that's floating 551 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: around out there, buck is all these books coming out. 552 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: I wonder on. 553 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: Some level whether the Breio Garcia conversation and everything else 554 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: is a desperate attempt to keep people from looking at 555 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: all of these stories that come out. 556 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: I understand it's in. 557 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 3: The past, but it's such a miscalculation to me to 558 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: focus on a Breio Garcia as the front facing element 559 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 3: of the Trump deportation policies that I just find it 560 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: almost incomprehensibly dumb that this could be as calculated of 561 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: a decision as it appears to be, that you could decide, Hey, 562 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: this is the ground upon which we want to fight, 563 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: and I think we've got Congressman Chip Roy back with 564 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: us right now. 565 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Clay. All I would say 566 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 5: was Irew's resolution calling on the Vice President to carry 567 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: out the to the amendment, right, And why I did 568 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: that was because it was very I wanted to call 569 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: the question, because it was important that the question get called. 570 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: But to your point, Democrats, let's get back to the 571 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: core basis, which by the way, relates to the border 572 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 5: issue and immigration. They don't care. It's all about political power. 573 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: It is literally all about political power. And I wish 574 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: I didn't have to say that, right. I mean, it 575 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 5: oughtn't be that way, all right, to be able to 576 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: sit down with some of my Democrat colleagues and figure 577 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 5: out like issues that are important for our people. But 578 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: right now it is animus towards Trump, and it is 579 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 5: about opening the floodgates to people to try to build 580 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: a political base for themselves for power. And that's it. 581 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: That is driving everything they are doing. It's about political power. 582 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: Congress and Roy appreciate you being with us, Surah, thank you. 583 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 5: Thanks you guys. 584 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: We'll break down a little bit more of that we 585 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: come back. We'll take more of your talkbacks as well. 586 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: But I want to tell you a Tunnel to Towers 587 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: does incredible work. I was down at the West Palm 588 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: Beach Trump Golf Course a couple of weeks ago. He 589 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: raised millions of dollars there. I know they're going to 590 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: be having a big event at Bedminster, another event here 591 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: in Nashville. 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Travis 612 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: at buck Sexton. 613 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 614 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 615 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: A story that I was talking about off air that 616 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: I want to mention here. OutKick has got a story 617 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: of Buck about Nike, and we're going to continue to 618 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: chase this, but I want to fill you guys in 619 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: a little bit about it because I could not believe 620 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: that this would be possible for an American sports apparel 621 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: brand and shoe brand. 622 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: To be doing. 623 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: Nike is evidently Buck, and I'm reading from an OutKick 624 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: story Dan Zach Sheesky wrote, and he did a good 625 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: job on this. Nike is funding research on children that 626 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: are receiving puberty blockers and or hormone therapy and gender 627 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: change surgeries to see how that can impact. 628 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: Their athletic performance. 629 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: Allegedly, they will not issue a full statement, but this 630 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: has been It's in a New York Times story this 631 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: weekend that they wrote about a trans athlete and Nike 632 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: is funding. According to the way this story is written, 633 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: Nike is funding gender change. Gender I mean, frankly on kids, 634 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: this is I think it's barbarism. I mean, I think 635 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: it should be criminal. But for a major company like 636 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: Nike to be funding this research is to me beyond 637 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: the pale. And this is again a According to a 638 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: New York Times story that came out over the weekend, 639 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: OutKick requested a comment from Nike. They will not respond 640 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: about whether they're funding this research, but the New York 641 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: Times story said they were. And I'll just say, if 642 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: you weren't, wouldn't know we're not doing this be a 643 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: pretty easy answer to give, and so far they're refusing 644 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: to answer. 645 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: I think we just we. 646 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Need a bunch of like college guys who played a 647 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: little high school ball, maybe got some beer bellies going 648 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: on to just challenge like the women's basketball team at 649 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: their school and to videotape this or something like. I 650 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: don't know what I think we have to show the 651 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: absurdity now more so than it already is being shown. 652 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what else can stop this or what 653 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: is it going to take for Nike. The people who 654 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: are pushing this at Nike are delusional, They're insane. There's 655 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: something wrong with them. Listen to this quote, Buck. This 656 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: is from the person who's doing the study, which to 657 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: me shouldn't be allowed. Recently, we got some money from Nike. 658 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: They wanted to study transgender folks who are going through 659 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: transition younger. So we're talking about athletes pausing puberty, gender 660 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: affirming care, cross hormonal treatments, what happens to them over time, 661 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: funded by. 662 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: Nike to see how it impacts athletics. This is barbaric. 663 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 3: And look, I understand people got upset about bud Light 664 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: and I'm not drinking bud Light still because of the 665 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: ridiculous trans thing they did, But they didn't fund a 666 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 3: study of pre adolescent kids to see how hormone therapy 667 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: and chopping off their genitals impacted their athletic performance. I mean, 668 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: this is some truly evil, sinister stuff. And again Nike's 669 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: not commenting on this at all, but a bunch of 670 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: different people, including the New York Times have reported that 671 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: they have funded this research. This is beyond the pale. 672 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I read this and I was in disbelief. 673 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: And again I give credit to dan Zach Sheesky for 674 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: writing this, and by the way, but nobody else in 675 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: the entire sports media would even cover this because they think, 676 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: probably this is a good thing. But ninety percent, I 677 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: would imagine if parents think like I do, that this 678 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: is barbaric. Kids under the age of puberty having gender 679 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: surgeries done to them which could sterilize them forever. Is 680 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: I mean mean to me, it's criminal. You should go 681 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: to prison for doing this. And the fact that a 682 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: major athletic company would be funding it is I mean 683 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: that they should fire executives who signed off on this. 684 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: I don't even see this as a remotely defensible position 685 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: for them to have taken. Again, we're going to continue 686 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: to cover it, but I wanted to share it with 687 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: you guys because I think the spotlight needs to be 688 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 3: shown on this to understand exactly how diabolical it is. 689 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: Why is Nike doing this? Now, What's what's the thinking? 690 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: I think their argument is is they're trying to figure 691 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: out how trans athletes should be involved in sports. Wait, 692 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: I mean this is crazy. I think they're trying to measure. 693 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: Their argument here would be, we're trying to measure how 694 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: gender impacts athletic performance, and we all, I just think 695 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: it's diabolical. Well we do know that's the Yes, I agree, 696 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: but I think a lot of crazy people out there 697 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: have bought into this idea that this is that this 698 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: is something that should be studied because well, what is 699 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: the actual impact of men playing women's sports and hormones 700 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: and everything else. I think that's what they're trying to justify. 701 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: Crazy world. 702 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: We've got David's wide coming up here on an Abundance 703 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: of Caution its new books stay with us