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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Hey, everybody, welcome to the wire to Hunt

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Speaker 1: Foundations podcast, which has brought to you by First Light.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tony Peterson, and today I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about how shed antler hunting helps you learn to

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Speaker 1: really look for details, which is a skill all deer

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Speaker 1: hunters should work to development. This is actually my favorite

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Speaker 1: time of year to shed hunt. The snow is sort

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Speaker 1: of looking like it might kind of sort of almost

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Speaker 1: melt away soon, and that means every day that the

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Speaker 1: old sun is shining, there's a chance for me to

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Speaker 1: look past the bootprints of all the other shed hunters

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Speaker 1: to maybe see some times poking out of the snow.

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Speaker 1: It's that sweet window where the ticks come out, and

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Speaker 1: it's usually comfortable to walk for quite a while. With

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Speaker 1: the most productive shed days happening between now and Turkey season,

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Speaker 1: it's also a good time to work on your war's waldo.

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Speaker 1: Looking skills which not only benefit you as a shed hunter, obviously,

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Speaker 1: they really come into play when you're actually hunting, Dear,

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Speaker 1: in the fall, When I'm driving somewhere with my family,

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Speaker 1: like many of you, I'm sure if we are near

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Speaker 1: fields or woods and not right in the old concrete jungle,

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking for critters, dear, mostly, but you never

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Speaker 1: know what you'll see, and I suspect most of you

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Speaker 1: probably do the same thing when you're driving. If you

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Speaker 1: also happen to have a wife who grew up in

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Speaker 1: the cities and two daughters who are following that regretful

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Speaker 1: life path that I try every day to change, you'll

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Speaker 1: notice they can't see for shit. No, no, I mean

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Speaker 1: their vision is fine technically, but their ability to see

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Speaker 1: animals is pretty rough, really rough. I remember driving up

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Speaker 1: north to the lake about four years ago and looking

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Speaker 1: out my driver's side window to see a pretty good

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Speaker 1: black bear standing in a hay field not very far

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Speaker 1: off the highway. Like any good dad, I freaked out

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Speaker 1: and yelled for everyone to look at the bear, and

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Speaker 1: it was the miracle of all miracles, but my entire

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Speaker 1: family saw the bear. Now last year, after leaving Lake

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Speaker 1: Malax with the whole family. I spotted another bear at

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Speaker 1: the back of another hayfield. Now it wasn't as visible

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Speaker 1: as the first bear, but it was still a real dark,

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Speaker 1: dark like a shadow kind of spot in a bright

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Speaker 1: the untrained eyes of my family members, that bear was

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Speaker 1: like the predator when that dude who dry shaves during

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Speaker 1: the movie is sneaking up to kill him, only to

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Speaker 1: get And this is a spoiler here bested by the

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Speaker 1: most invisible intergalactic trophy hunter kind of guy out there,

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Speaker 1: which the whole series is based on, the same thing

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Speaker 1: happens when we're in the woods. Hell, it happens all

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Speaker 1: the time on the water. In fact, maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: better example to highlight this. I've spent most of my

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Speaker 1: life looking into water to see what finned creatures might

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Speaker 1: be looking back from site fishing bass like a fiend,

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Speaker 1: to fly fishing crystal clear trout streams, and even bow

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Speaker 1: fishing a variety of water across the Midwest. I've stared

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Speaker 1: into a lot of fish's eyes, and when I fish

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Speaker 1: with people who haven't, which is pretty often, they seem

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Speaker 1: like they can't see a freaking thing. It's not that

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Speaker 1: I'm so much more awesome than them, although that could

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Speaker 1: be the case, the reality is that they just haven't

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Speaker 1: spent hundreds and hundreds of hours honing that skill. Learning

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Speaker 1: to look for specific details is one of the cornerstones

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Speaker 1: of being a good hunter. I'll never forget being in

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Speaker 1: Argentina several years ago and staring at the sky looking

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Speaker 1: for rose bills and other random Southern Hemisphere ducks, only

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Speaker 1: to be totally humiliated by the guides with us, some

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Speaker 1: of whom weren't born yet when I was already finishing college.

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Speaker 1: It was humbling. But those dudes grew up on those

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Speaker 1: rivers that carry waters through the heart of the Amazon rainforest.

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Speaker 1: They also stake their paychecks and more importantly, their tips

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Speaker 1: to shoot. This is a learned skill. But you're not

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Speaker 1: and guess what you can do that right Now, my friends,

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Speaker 1: with a purpose. And now I probably should explain that

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Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm advocating guerrilla warfare or style el

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Speaker 1: of shed hunting should make you feel it, but not

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Speaker 1: the way an elk hunt, or maybe pouring concrete all

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Speaker 1: day would make you feel. It's fun and should be

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Speaker 1: viewed as such. But you should also do some things

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Speaker 1: you walk right on buy and miss them. Now, before

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Speaker 1: I tell you how to do that, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: tell you how you should shed hunt to learn you're

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Speaker 1: Remember at the beginning of the podcast, when I not

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Speaker 1: so humbly told you how awesome I am at seeing

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Speaker 1: bears and fish and other assorted creatures. Well, I miss

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Speaker 1: a lot too. I was filming a shed hunting episode

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Speaker 1: when I stop to talk into the camera, which is

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Speaker 1: something you're supposed to do often, but it feels kind

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Speaker 1: of like taking a bath with your grandpa. I guess

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Speaker 1: Another time, I was shed hunting with a good buddy

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Speaker 1: think about myself versus how I am is actually pretty different,

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Speaker 1: you too, trust me. You walk by sheds just like

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Speaker 1: you see more deer. Here's how you have to look more.

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Speaker 1: How's that for disappointing? Okay, I'll elaborate on it. When

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Speaker 1: but they also, especially in nice even light during cloudy

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Speaker 1: Once you've learned that you're not the antler spotting machine

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Speaker 1: right now, slow walker, I am not. I don't know

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Speaker 1: at least as hard as anything else to just walk slow.

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Speaker 1: It's almost as hard for me as it is to

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Speaker 1: get a song that's stuck in my head unstuck. I

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Speaker 1: recently started listening to a band called bad Omens, and man,

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Speaker 1: their songs. Fortunately, they are just as annoying as me,

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Speaker 1: so it all kind of shakes out pretty evenly. We

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Speaker 1: all just annoy each other in this nice little family. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Try to walk slow, even if you're a born speed

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Speaker 1: walker like I am. Slowing things down allows you to

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Speaker 1: take in your surroundings. Now. Sure, if you're shed hunting

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Speaker 1: and alfalfa field, you can probably book it pretty fast.

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Speaker 1: a still hunt. Walk slow stop, look, walk slow stop, look,

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Speaker 1: take your time. The best way to do this is

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Speaker 1: to shed hunt spots where you know there's a concentration

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to shed hunt where there are no deer,

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Speaker 1: But that's not what I mean. Spend your time in

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Speaker 1: an overgrown homestead. If you get yourself into a place

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