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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Wednesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we

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Speaker 2: sit a mere eight days away from NFL Draft twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's my your explosion as you're walking towards the cameraechnic.

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Speaker 2: Things are just blowing up and exploding. They really should

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Speaker 2: do that, you know, just do like the slow mo

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Speaker 2: walk up with the explosions behind. I don't know, see

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Speaker 2: in the movies and there's mel Kiper's striding to the

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Speaker 2: desk along.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams coming down the tunnel behind him, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: It'll be entertained.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there. What'll do you know what will happen?

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Speaker 1: They'll put it on a green They'll put them walking

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Speaker 1: down a green screen and they'll put all that behind them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can do that, c g I.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that somewhere else before.

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Speaker 1: Everything else is fake. Why not make the walk fake? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Uh, there's some goings on around the league. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in short order. I'm really hoping Detroit puts

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Speaker 2: on a good show, you know what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure they will. And let's face it, it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not Detroit, it's the NFL. I mean they

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Speaker 1: all right, but they try to incorporate. There's like it's

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Speaker 1: not like they're work city in which they're operating. They're

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Speaker 1: not like working within a budget, right, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do you want? I want cranes, I want explosions. I

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Speaker 1: want fireworks.

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Speaker 2: I want a giant Farns wheel that can roll down

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Speaker 2: the street.

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Speaker 1: I want a three hundred foot ferris wheel down Main

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Speaker 1: Street in Detroit. Okay, we'll see if we can do,

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Speaker 1: made of neon. We'll do it. We got it. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear that? All right? Write it down, make it happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the shot I want. I want parachuters right now,

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Speaker 1: Detroit's gonna be I come in with a parachuter. Let's

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Speaker 1: face it, here, here's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Because I have a remote unit on a plane.

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Speaker 1: There's a certain there's there's certain towns. Detroit is not

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Speaker 1: one of those towns because they have had a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Buffalo is not going to get a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl because you know they'll tell you because we

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Speaker 1: don't have enough hotel rooms, blah, blah blah, go on

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Speaker 1: on and on on. We could get the draft. Yeah, right, sure,

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Speaker 1: so we can get the draft, so we get something

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Speaker 1: like that. But this is you know, I like it

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Speaker 1: that they're you know, they spreading this thing around. It

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Speaker 1: was in New York every year for a long time.

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Speaker 1: They start moving it around. It's a great idea. I'm

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Speaker 1: all about it. Let's go to you know, don't you

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Speaker 1: and I aren't driving over there. We're gonna work. Well,

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Speaker 1: we could drive over there and work, it's my point.

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Speaker 1: But take the show on the road. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you all right, how m hm? Now, even if it

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Speaker 1: happened during the trade, like if it was just Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: if we had a traded for somebody's first and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden we got the first pick of the draft,

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Speaker 1: do we go? Do we take the show over there?

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Speaker 1: I think we got to, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose and throw the first pick on the

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Speaker 2: show and.

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Speaker 1: Come on, right we did. We'd take the show on

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Speaker 1: the road, Jay, we would take the show on the road. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's not the budget. That's a good one. We would go.

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Speaker 1: We would be there, right, that would be fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: not listen. I want to I know people, you're going

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Speaker 1: to be doing the drag. We're gonna be You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be on live streaming and stuff for the after that

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Speaker 1: first round, first night anyway, and we'll be doing the show,

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Speaker 1: I think on the first date, day one of the

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Speaker 1: draft war on for three hours. There'll there'll be no right,

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Speaker 1: So we'll do that. But I'm I have not been

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Speaker 1: told yet that I've got any responsibilities in and around

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Speaker 1: the buildings. They're gonna give to the professionals that you

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Speaker 1: and Maddie. So I'm going to be, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, kicked up with a beer in your zero gravity

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Speaker 2: chair and a beer and a cigar.

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Speaker 1: Let's go bear a cigar and of me and my buddies.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? I'm thinking, unless I unless I

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Speaker 1: get the call, okay, and I have to work, which

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Speaker 1: I should have gotten by, we'll be back on Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going. Yeah, I'm not gonna pull

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Speaker 1: looking forward to people that might be our Twitter question

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Do you have draft plans? Do you tail you?

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Speaker 1: Do you draft gate for the Do.

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Speaker 2: You watch the draft in your driveway with fire pit

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Speaker 2: and a big screen hooked up to a portable generator.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'll tell you what not at number and now

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Speaker 1: here's the thing not at number twenty eight. I don't

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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a wait. But if you're like

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver ten or above, yeah, I think he got to,

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Speaker 1: don't you? Like in twenty eighteen, weren't we all doing that?

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Speaker 2: Top ten? You're pining for hope anyway?

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Speaker 1: Weren't we all doing that anyway in twenty eighteen? Sure,

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Speaker 1: because you knew they were gonna, you know, let's go,

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Speaker 1: because there are like five guys in the pool and

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Speaker 1: you had to get one. So I was that was

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Speaker 1: a big deal. That was I was actually MC in

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Speaker 1: the party here in the building. That a huge You like,

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Speaker 1: there's three thousand people in this joint.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can pack him in here. Oh yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: So that we did that for Joshu Man but and Tremaine.

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Speaker 2: I remember I introduced Marcel Darius to the fans waiting

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Speaker 2: here in the Yeah Feel House in twenty eleven, and

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Speaker 2: I let's just say, I'm I'm short to begin with,

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Speaker 2: I looked supremely smaller, bro standing next to that guy.

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Speaker 1: Stand between Tremaine and Josh, dude, I just pictured that.

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Speaker 1: That is glorious. It was, Yeah, it was awe inspiring.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I walked up there, crazy.

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Speaker 2: I walked up there with Marcel and I'm standing there going,

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Speaker 2: I must look like I am from the shallowest end of.

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Speaker 1: The Jean pool that is out there. You look imaginable.

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Speaker 1: You look like a world class soccer player, though.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I even looked like anything like that either.

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Speaker 1: Messy you're taller than Messi by yeah, by two inches,

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Speaker 1: So you know you got that going for you. You're

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Speaker 1: in the wrong sport. Well it should be the problem.

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Speaker 2: The problem is I'd never had skills that came even

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Speaker 2: what he does now. So yeah, it's an interesting time

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Speaker 2: and people will be waiting with baited breath to see

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Speaker 2: what the bill's at, especially you know, in the wake

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Speaker 1: It's, you know, eight days away, closer, eight days away,

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Speaker 1: it's getting closer. We are tomorrow, We're a one week

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Speaker 1: let's go fine.

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Speaker 2: And there is there is some draft visit news that

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Speaker 2: we need to pass along as we go around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: and we'll begin with the latest Bill's thirty visit that

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Speaker 2: leaked out NFL Network see and Rapaport reporting that the

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Speaker 2: Bills hosted Iowa defensive back Cooper dejen on a thirty visit.

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Speaker 2: He also visited the Steelers, the Eagles, and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: He is expected to be a late first round pick

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Speaker 2: had one of the last pro days. I think it

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Speaker 2: the deadline, which I think it was just this week

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Speaker 2: that it came up. Might have been yesterday that was

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Speaker 2: the last day for visits, or maybe it's it might

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Speaker 2: be today, forgive me. It might be today, the last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: So he was he was rehabbing, rehabbing, rehabbing all the

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Speaker 2: you know, we're fitting of where people believed his draft

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Speaker 2: every time I watch him on tape, even though he

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Speaker 1: And Bills fans have this affinity for, you know, because

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Speaker 1: of Poorer and Hide and their stretch. Here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: front office who's picking guys, we're gonna talk a lot

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Speaker 1: enough to being a roster that they can take the

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Speaker 1: But I don't I don't have a problem if they

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Speaker 2: Boy that that yeah, and that's accounted for and the

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Speaker 2: value on the board. That's why they get the grades

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Speaker 2: that they do.

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Speaker 1: So if it turns out and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: it's an ongoing process. It's not over even after this draft.

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Speaker 1: They still got a ton of guys. They got to

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Speaker 1: sign a ton of guys. So I'm I hate to

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is gonna deviate from his overall philosophy of

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Speaker 1: trying to take the best guy out there. But need

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Speaker 1: always rears its head when you get this close to

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Speaker 1: Good player. Yeah, the Bengals, I mean every team is

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he has. I do not know.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of the going thing now. And

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Speaker 2: Not expected to be back with the Bengals, though.

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Speaker 2: One other pre Draft thirty visit to pass along, the

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Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler on thirty visits this week. Being interested in

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Speaker 2: these prospects, Steve would indicate the Giants or at least

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Speaker 1: No, you don't think they're gonna do that. They're lying.

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Speaker 1: I think they could move back from six somewhere. One

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Speaker 2: No, Spencer Rattler, you can get on day two, but

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Speaker 2: bo Nicks, you slide back from six to maybe I

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Speaker 1: In there, all right, So you're thinking they're in the

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Speaker 2: Who think bo Nicks might not go in round one, right,

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Speaker 2: all you need is one team.

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Speaker 1: But Mike Pennix. They're thinking Mike Pennix.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen the the Giant. There's absolutely,

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Speaker 2: The question is if four come off the board in

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Speaker 1: They might be maybe maybe you know that.

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Speaker 2: That's what these visits say to me looking at Bonicks.

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Speaker 2: Having Bonnicks in your building, Spencer Ratler in your building

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Speaker 1: Well, there's there's guys in there. Listen. I like Mike

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Speaker 2: They're talking, they're talking about him possibly going to Washington

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Speaker 2: it's off the chain with JJ McCarthy. I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: they're the Chicago Bears. They're not gonna take Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: to think about the Bears. Can you believe he's getting

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Speaker 1: of who knows. This is all a lot of conjecture.

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Speaker 1: When you start hearing crazy stuff like this, like crazy

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Speaker 2: Well, bow Nicks and Spencer Ratler makes some sense as

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Speaker 1: I just say them looking to move out. Spencer Rattler

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Speaker 1: two pick at best, probably early day th bo Nicks

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Speaker 2: They're not getting picked sixth over.

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Speaker 1: They're not getting picked six over. And now, hey, Baker

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Speaker 2: And he's six footing chain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray did first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: So did Bryce Young And I'll just say those names

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere in the NFL, we saw the big story about

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Speaker 2: That's an ESPN report. The Patriots have since denied said report.

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Speaker 2: There is other news from ESPN. They say Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: Is it any.

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Speaker 2: Surprise that Bill Belichick went exclusively NFC East here Number one.

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Speaker 1: For him, I think as well, well, well, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: And those three spots are ripe to be switched out, ripe.

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Speaker 1: And he knows it.

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Speaker 2: He's no dummy.

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Speaker 1: Dummy.

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Speaker 2: Red Fox used to say on Sanford and Son, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So somehow this guy is not going to coach

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Speaker 1: He is going to be in the headlines.

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Speaker 2: He's probably four or five times between like Halloween and Christmas.

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Speaker 1: put him so he could loosen up and have a

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Speaker 2: Get the most out of.

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Speaker 1: It's not sitting it's not sitting next to you know,

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Speaker 1: luck to that producer. Yeah right, I just pokes Bills

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Speaker 2: Please be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's more. That's the likely scenario, right.

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, if he's out, if he's out

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Speaker 1: So he's got to find a way to get back

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Speaker 2: Which is why he's maintaining a presence in the television

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Speaker 2: rusher Jalen Phillips. That is not a surprise, not a

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Speaker 2: surprise on the Wattle front. Maybe a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of a surprise for Jalen Phillips because he's coming off

437
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Speaker 2: the Achilles injury. But all signs are pointing to a

438
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Speaker 2: pretty positive recovery for him. We'll see if he still

439
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Speaker 2: has the same burst you know that made him a

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Speaker 2: high draft choice. Here's the other thing, you still got

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Speaker 2: the two extension coming down the pike here. Now you're

442
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Speaker 2: on the hook for sizeable money for both Waddle and Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be able to find a way

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Speaker 2: to extend both of those guys too? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, you're assuming Tyreek could potentially it could

447
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Speaker 2: be out the door after the twenty five seasons. So

448
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Speaker 2: maybe you can make it work bringing pulling that money

449
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Speaker 2: off the books, because Tyreek has said, but I hit thirty,

450
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Speaker 2: I'm done right.

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Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this, though, I think about where

452
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Speaker 1: you're at, if you're Miami, it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: real big question. One. You've got Tua who's been good

454
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Speaker 1: at moments, he's been really good, really elite because of

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Speaker 1: a lot of people believe it's because of the weapons

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Speaker 1: around him. Tyreek Jalen Waddle helps and yes, and his

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Speaker 1: head coach has kind of giving him what he can do.

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Speaker 1: You've got that guy at quarterback who you're trying to

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Speaker 1: coach around and scheme around and weaponize or going out

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Speaker 1: into a wilderness again trying to find a guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's hard. But I'll say this, it says something

462
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Speaker 1: when you talk to Bills fans cold not cold things.

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans, Patriot fans, Jet fans who are going I

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Speaker 1: kind of would be okay with him extending to a

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Speaker 1: you know that your division rivals like going on, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't scare me.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, the Dolphins are like, you have

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Speaker 2: to give him the extension because the guy just led

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Speaker 2: the league in passing. He's been ultra productive. You can

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Speaker 2: are I mean, believe me. I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: difficult argument for people like you and me to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the guy doesn't come up clutch in big games

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Speaker 2: because he's limiting. To this point, he.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't he's limited physically.

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Speaker 2: Now supposedly he has trimmed down and is not as heavy.

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Speaker 2: Last year he kind of insulated himself with extra weight

477
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Speaker 2: to take the hits. Now he's trying to trim down

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Speaker 2: and slim down so he's more mobile. We'll see if

479
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Speaker 2: that's a wise choice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but at least he's not. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot in that. There's a lot in the two justion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that easy. I think he's in

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Speaker 1: the realm of like a Kirk Cousins guy. Yeah, it's

484
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Speaker 1: it's you know, he's got so much around him. Certainly

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Speaker 1: he has done everything they've asked him to do. But well,

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Speaker 1: that's not really that can't be the case. That's not

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Speaker 1: really true. I don't think he's elevated guys around him.

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Speaker 1: I think they've elevated him. That's the that's the sense

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Speaker 1: I get. And they're paying a guy thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: They're paying a wide receiver thirty million dollars who's an

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Speaker 1: elite difference maker in the league. They got all kinds

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Speaker 1: of talent around him, offensively, speed and all that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know, And you're gonna pay the guy.

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Speaker 1: This is a Daniel Jones situation right here. Not. No,

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Speaker 1: it's even worse because Daniel Jones only put up like

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Speaker 1: mediocre load numbers to a like you said, led the

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Speaker 1: league in passing, but against really good football teams, they're

498
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Speaker 1: just not good enough. And that comes down to number one.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so you know that he'll get his extension.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get over fifty million a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way you can't pay him that you

503
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Speaker 1: have not there has to be. Why do you not

504
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: he let the league in pass because it doesn't because

505
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get worse, not better. That's why you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have fifty million tied up in a guy who's not

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Speaker 1: helping you win enough. I don't think they look at

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Speaker 1: the Bills, look at the Buffalo Bills compared to the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. When things go bad, the guy taking snaps

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Speaker 1: puts the cape on and does it. Yeah, Tyreek can't

511
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Speaker 1: put the cape on if he doesn't have the ball,

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Speaker 1: or if you got double team, you got somebody over

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Speaker 1: the top of him. Tyreek can't do it without the ball.

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Speaker 1: Tua can't do it even with the ball. You can't

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Speaker 1: give him fifty million bucks because you're gonna get worse

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Speaker 1: over time, not better.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you in any way, shape or form,

518
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Speaker 2: but I am convinced that the Dolphins see it differently.

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Speaker 2: They see a guy who led the league in passing,

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Speaker 2: and they say, look, we've made progress. We'll get the

521
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: we've made the playoffs each of the last two years.

522
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Speaker 2: Will take it step by step. I think they will

523
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Speaker 2: put themselves in a precarious cap situation because this contract,

524
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Speaker 2: coupled with whatever you have to do to hold on

525
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Speaker 2: to waddle if you want to hold onto Jalen Phillips

526
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Speaker 2: because he comes back successfully from achille surgery, what have you? Fine?

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Speaker 1: You know, But no, it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be tricky because the Bradley Chubb contract.

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Speaker 1: You've got ticket sales to think about. You've got you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got what's your alternative? That's right, you don't have

531
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Speaker 1: a better alternative right now.

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Speaker 2: You got to pay him, and you got to pay

533
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Speaker 2: fair market value for a guy who led the league

534
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Speaker 2: in passing. I don't see how they There's no way

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00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: around it for them kind of back.

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Speaker 1: To franchise him. You'd have to franchise. You could do that,

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00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: but I think he and his agent revolt. Well don't

538
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: let they can do that. You want to know.

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00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Why, because some other team will pay him.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's fine, that's fine. In fact, I hope

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Speaker 1: it's the Jets or the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Right well, the Dolphins better without Tua this year.

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Speaker 1: No, in the future probably, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if you can guarantee that.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, who I'll go, I go on on about that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Let me just I'm just they were

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Speaker 1: They're the sixth seed in the playoffs last year to

548
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Speaker 1: eleven and six six seed. Yep, there were five four

549
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Speaker 1: teams in the conference that were eleven and six. They

550
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: were behind three of them the other three. Then there

551
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Speaker 1: was a ten and seven Houston team.

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Speaker 2: That was they probably lost games to all of Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what did they have one win against the

554
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Speaker 2: team with a winning record last year? So that's right,

555
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: and that's the problem. But I don't think the Dolphins

556
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: see it that way. I think they see it as

557
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: glass half full, not half empty. So it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today is draft related and

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Speaker 2: Bills related.

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00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: Of course, what is the.

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Speaker 2: Minimum needed from this Bill's draft class? You heard Brandon

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Speaker 2: being say it back in January. We got to hit

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Speaker 2: on this draft class. What is the minimum they need

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Speaker 2: to pull out of this draft class? Whether you think

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Speaker 2: it's a player perspective, a position perspective, or a production perspective,

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, you let us know. Eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one, eight of eight, five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty the number to join us

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there and we've got nothing but

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Speaker 2: your phone calls the rest of the way here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Klida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back One Bill's Live here on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you, and we heard Brandon

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Speaker 2: Being say it back in January in his season wrap

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Speaker 2: up press conference. He said, in no uncertain terms, we

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Speaker 2: really have to hit on this draft. So with that

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Speaker 2: in we are asking you today what is the minimum

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Speaker 2: needed from this Bill's draft class? What do you believe

579
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Speaker 2: that must be? And you could take this from any

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Speaker 2: perspective you wish. This could be from a production perspective,

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00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: could be from a position perspective, could be from a

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Speaker 2: specific player perspective. Maybe you're thinking they need a minimum

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Speaker 2: number of starters as rookies out of this draft class.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're thinking you.

585
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Need a minimum number of contributors in terms of something

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00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: on defense, in the back end, something at the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you think it might be, you let us know

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Speaker 2: eight h threeho five to fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 2: We got open lines for you. If you don't have

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Speaker 2: time to give us a phone call, you can always

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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweetsheet at One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Because I think this could cover a wide range of

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Speaker 2: what people believe the Bills have to come out of

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Speaker 2: this draft class with at a minimum.

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Speaker 1: So could be solid starting wide receiver, could be a

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: couple of starters at various positions. Could be a safety,

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00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: could be a defensive tackle, could be a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: and wide wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is for me.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, there's a bunch of things you could And if

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00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: you go back to their twenty eighteen draft, they got

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Speaker 1: like five really good players. Obviously Wyatt Teller ended up

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Speaker 1: getting traded because they had a spot where they had

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00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: some depth at that moment. Yeah, but all those guys

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Speaker 1: and then Raymray McLoud still banging around the league, so

607
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Speaker 1: even though he was a sixth round pick, So that

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Speaker 1: would be nice, That would be nice.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would my answer to this

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Speaker 2: question would be two wide receivers. I think they got

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Speaker 2: to come out of this draft with a minimum of

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Speaker 2: two wide receivers. Now that doesn't mean they don't need

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00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: some other things too, but if I had to put

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Speaker 2: a prerequisite on it, that's what it would be for me.

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Speaker 2: Let's get two guys at the receiver position coming out

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Speaker 2: of this thing.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was one if

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Speaker 1: they picked the receiver at twenty eight. I thought it

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Speaker 1: would be one if it was if they didn't take

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Speaker 1: one with their first pick at twenty eight or trade

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Speaker 1: up to get one earlier than that. I thought you

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Speaker 1: had to come out at least with two. Now that

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Speaker 1: was before Steph Diggs got traded, so you can imagine

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Speaker 1: where I'm at now. I'm kind of with you. You

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00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: got to come out with two, and you better pick

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Speaker 1: one at twenty eight, and if you don't pick it

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight, you better pick it before sixty. So

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Speaker 1: I think you got to go high and get some

629
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Speaker 1: trades in this draft. So we'll see. I'm I'm with you, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: I think it wide receiver is of the utmost importance

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Speaker 1: and I think you got to get him high in

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Speaker 1: this draft, and if you don't get him at the top,

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Speaker 1: you got to get a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: We should mention that our a friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: Dane Brugler, who just came out with his draft guy

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Speaker 2: The Beast on Theeathletic dot Com and we had him

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Speaker 2: on the show earlier this week. He came out with

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Speaker 2: a seven round mock draft, and he had the Bills

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00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: trading up to pick seventeen Jacksonville, which is an area

640
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: we noted in recent weeks as a possible landing spot

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00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: if the Bills feel they needed to trade up, and

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00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: he had them taking Brian Thomas Junior with the seventeenth

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Speaker 2: overall pick. I saw another mock draft, and the name

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Speaker 2: and the credit escapes me, so forgive me for that.

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: But they had the Bills trading up from twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to twenty two with the Philadelphia Eagles and taking Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas Junior. So it's interesting that the range for Brian

648
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior has been vacillating somewhat for a while. It

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Speaker 2: was like eleven to eighteen. Now it's more like fifteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty three. So it seems like there's been a

651
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: little bit of a shift there, and whether that's because

652
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: some of these draft gurus have gained more intel on

653
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: what teams think of the player, or you know, maybe

654
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: they're hearing things. If there is somewhat of a shift

655
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: and it's somewhat down the board, that would help Buffalo

656
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: if they in fact are interested in this guy. And

657
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be so

658
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: I found that interesting. Some of the more recent mocks

659
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: have the Bills making a move, but they also have

660
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas lower in round one than we've seen, you know,

661
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: a month ago. For example.

662
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Speaker 1: Right you're seeing Maleague neighbors move. I think up and

663
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: down the top ten. Marvin Harrison Junior is far and

664
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: away the consensus locked in as the top fives. Whichever

665
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: receiver goes first, it will be Marvin Harrison Junior, Myleikue Neighbors,

666
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Roma Duns are virtually just you can flip them back

667
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: and forth as to who likes who and who thinks

668
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, who thinks who's better. And then Brian Thomas Junior,

669
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell, Lad McConkie comes somewhere down now. Brian Thomas

670
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Junior seems to be in a very thin slice of

671
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: number two.

672
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: He's like the second tier all by himself.

673
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: He's a second tier by him self. Hard to hard

674
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: to understand how that gets cut up that to those levels,

675
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: But there you have it. Who knows. And here's the thing.

676
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: We can all be right about what we think about

677
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: these wide receivers, and we don't because obviously we don't

678
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: matter the teams have their own opinions, and they're gonna

679
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna act on those and we're gonna see the

680
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: results of those opinions when it comes to the draft night.

681
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Brownie, I think that's as high

682
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: as it goes. I'm thinking, and I've said it. I

683
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: said it yesterday. I think the Bills move up four

684
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: or five spots, not ten, yeah or eleven. I think

685
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: it's four or five forward or back. I think they're

686
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna either pick at twenty eight or they're

687
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: gonna be picking that range late second, late first, early second.

688
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: What I think more likely they'll trade up.

689
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: What is the minimum needed from this Bill's draft class

690
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four season. You let us know

691
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: at eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight

692
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get on board.

693
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: Got open lines for you. But we're going to crack

694
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Speaker 2: open the tweet sheet in the meantime. Sweet sheet brought

695
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Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

696
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills, and Seth leads off and says,

697
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: two wide receivers early, maybe first, and then trade into

698
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: the third for another there defensive tackle, defensive end in

699
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: the second, and then depth guys at safety, O line,

700
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: running back, and linebacker. Hoping to see about three to

701
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: four of the late round picks used for trade ups.

702
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: That's a lot of things for the minimum, but a

703
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: lot has to happen in this draft. Yeah, I mean,

704
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: I think that's what Brandon Bean was getting at when

705
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: he said it back in January. He and his personnel department,

706
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: they knew some of the salary cap casualties that were

707
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: on the horizon based on where their caps stood, So

708
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: he knew there was going to be a bit of

709
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: a gutting of the roster with high salaries moving off,

710
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: free agents moving out, and you're gonna have to replace

711
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: a lot of that with youth.

712
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Speaker 1: They could see it coming, they knew, I mean, they're

713
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: the ones who set this whole thing up, so they

714
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: could see it coming. During the season and probably before

715
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: the season regular season even started, what was coming down

716
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: the pipe. And then they probably started having hard conversations

717
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: about Mitch Morris, about Micah, about Jordan, you know, and

718
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: certainly when Tradevius got hurt about Tredavious, all of that stuff. Milano.

719
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing. As Brandon Bean will tell you,

720
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: nothing can be sacred. You know nothing can be sacred.

721
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: You gotta have these hard conversations, even ridiculous conversations. So

722
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: they could see all of this coming. But they knew

723
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: this team's gonna look way different when it lines up

724
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four than it did in twenty twenty three,

725
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: way different. So they had to prepare for it. They

726
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: had to prepare for it. And this draft is I

727
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: roll your eyes and say it's crucial for their success

728
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: this coming year.

729
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Now, Jack on the tweets, she says two wide receivers

730
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: one on day one. I refuse to accept a chop

731
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: mabn or some offensive lineman. Allen needs weapons. If it

732
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: were me, I'd take a wide receiver around two also,

733
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: but understanding other needs at safety, defensive line, guard, slash, center, corner,

734
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Speaker 2: running back, I do think they need to get another

735
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: wide receiver on day three. Check out Marcus Rosamie Jack Saint. Yeah,

736
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: Roseamie Jack Saint, nice player. I think he's I think

737
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: he's towards the back of the draft. To be honest

738
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: with you, did a decent job at Georgia. Ran a

739
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: lot of their over routes, middle of the field guy,

740
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: good size, decent hands, not great hands, a little bit

741
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: of a body catcher. So I think the general consensus

742
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: on him is late day three. So if you want

743
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: to use one of your sixes or seventh or your seventh,

744
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: he might still be there.

745
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: And there could be some surprise surprise moves and surprise trades.

746
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: I've it out there a couple of times in the

747
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: last week or two that it could be a player

748
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: for a pick, particularly given the Bill's success in recent

749
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: times where they've got some guys that other teams really covet.

750
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Speaker 1: I think one of the things we're stuck in in

751
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: this draft cycle that maybe I can distill it. There's

752
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: two things working on the Bill's draft this year. One

753
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. You can almost like, hey,

754
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: take your pick, pick draft a guy, maybe not a

755
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: linebacker because you've got Bernard and Milano, although Milana, you know,

756
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: Milana has his own question marks, but Dorian Williams flashed,

757
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: so you know. But other than that, take your pick corner, safety,

758
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: defensive line, edge, defensive tackle. You can take your pick

759
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: over there. On offense one, yeah, I.

760
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: Mean they might draft some line depth or a late

761
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: running back, and it's.

762
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: An arms race. So that's where we're stuck. We may

763
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Speaker 1: be stuck there. I don't know that Brandon Bean is,

764
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: but that's what we're all thinking, right. Well.

765
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you said earlier, in the wake of

766
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: the digs trade, I think it's only become more pronounced.

767
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: So that's the difficult thing for fans to get around.

768
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: They were thinking receiver before the digs move. Now in

769
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: the wake of it, it's almost an absolute, you know,

770
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: So I think it makes it even more pronounced in

771
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: terms of what the Bills.

772
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Have to do.

773
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but still taking your

774
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: phone calls. At eight oh three five point fifty, what

775
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: is the minimum needed from this bill's draft class? You

776
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: let us know when we return here on One Bill's Live,

777
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: presented by Colt of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio and

778
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: gonna get right to the phones here for some people

779
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: waiting patiently. Where we have been asking you today, what

780
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: is the minimum needed from this bill's draft class?

781
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Let us know.

782
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: At eight oh three five fifty, we lead off with

783
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Tim and Charlotte.

784
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

785
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: Tim?

786
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, thanks for having me on. I just wanted

787
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: to say that I think that at minimum, the Bills

788
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: need to come out of this draft class with two

789
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: defensive ends. I'm not saying that it has to happen

790
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: early by any means, but I do like the idea

791
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: of Chop Robinson if he drops, you know, gets there

792
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: to twenty five, twenty six, whatever the case may be.

793
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: But I've been driving the wide receiver train just like

794
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: everybody else. I really think that.

795
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: They need two of them.

796
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: But I also think that a low key need for

797
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: the Bills is defensive end. I really think they need

798
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: two of those as well. I could see a scenario

799
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: where potentially Von Miller is not on this roster for

800
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: next season, and then you only have AJ and Greg

801
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: on a fifth year option. AJ only would have one

802
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: year left on his deal at that point. I just

803
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: think the depth and the long term plan at that

804
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: position hasn't been figured out yet, and I think that

805
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: they could address it in this draft, all.

806
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: Right, not a bit had point, Tim. And we've heard

807
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean say over the years, you can never have

808
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: enough pass rushers. I've heard those words come out of

809
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: his mouth a number of times.

810
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: I'll say this to Chop Robinson's side. I mean, you'll

811
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: get a lot of people that are pretty violently against

812
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Chop Robinson because of the Aaron Maybin incident from the

813
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: same school, same as all that stuff. Whether you like

814
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: the prospect or not, the Bills aren't going to take

815
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: a prospect they don't like. So if whoever it is,

816
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I think it's the idea of a defensive end that

817
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: we can talk about without getting into a specific guy.

818
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I'm I'm far We're far enough

819
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: down this road that the Bills have always been. They've

820
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: always had a plan and they've always executed it pretty well.

821
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: They do a lot of things really well, all the

822
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: way around from the from the building all the way

823
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: to the field, from the top of the organization, all

824
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: the way down to Brownie and I. So they do

825
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things well. So I do have this

826
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: kind of level of faith in Brandon Bean. I'm a

827
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: problem who he takes. But I want to hear what

828
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you say, and I get it. I'm kind of with you.

829
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: There's a big there's like three guys. Usually they go

830
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: into a game with eight, and we have like dressed

831
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: with like four. So they need some guys and we

832
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: have no idea who those guys are gonna be.

833
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: Just to remind everybody, they did sign Casey two Hill

834
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: in free agency from Washington. I would say, if you

835
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: need a description of him, I would call him a

836
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: rich man's Trent Murphy, who was a free agent signing

837
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: of the Bills earlier in the McDermot been era. I

838
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: think he's a more athletic version of Trent Murphy who

839
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: is a solid player for them. Not a dynamic ten

840
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: sack a year guy, but a steady, solid player. And

841
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: you know, Steve and I are still pretty high on

842
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: the prospects for Kingsley Jonathan, But yeah, I think in

843
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: Ed Rusher could firmly be in the mix for this

844
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: draft class, no question about it.

845
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Speaker 1: To Gary in Cheek Dewaga, what's up, Gary, Yeah.

846
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 5: You know I think we should we should really help

847
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 5: Josh Allen in this draft. You know, you say defensive

848
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 5: ends and pass rushers, but the good teams they have

849
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: quarterbacks to get rid of the ball quick and you

850
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: can't sack them anyway. So I say, let's get this

851
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 5: center from Oregon and a couple pass rushers or a

852
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: couple receivers rather and a running back, and let's concentrate

853
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: on the offense and make sure your defense can you know,

854
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: stop the run, and don't worry about the pass rushers.

855
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 5: Don't concentrate on that so much because they're good against

856
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: the lesser teams. But the top teams, you know, like

857
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 5: Cincinnati and Kansas City and Miami, they you barely rarely

858
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: get a chance to sack them because they get rid

859
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: of the quarterbands get rid of the ball too quickly.

860
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 5: So that's that's the way I feel. I mean, I think, uh,

861
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 5: you know, they can come up with a decent above

862
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 5: average defense, but you got you gotta, you gotta help

863
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: out Josh Allen. I mean, that's that's the main priority

864
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Speaker 5: of the draft. I think.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Jerry. I'll say this, Jerry. One of

866
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: the reasons you see teams getting rid of the ball

867
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: fast is, for instance, like the Miami Dolphins and two

868
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: it led the league in passing and Brown He's always

869
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: saying that, and it's true. They get rid of the

870
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: ball fast with two because he doesn't have the arm

871
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: to get it down there. He's got to put a

872
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of air under it and heave it to get

873
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: it down the field any length of any length of

874
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: any length of throw. Teams build their offense and their

875
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: schemes around what their players do well. Two is ultra accurate,

876
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: and he can get rid of the ball and see

877
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: it really quickly. They use that in Miami to a

878
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: certain extent where it almost renders some of what Tyreek

879
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: Hill does is irrelevant because they got to do this

880
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: for two of they That's the way teams are if

881
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: they get rid of it fast. One reason is because

882
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: a they don't have a very good offensive line, or

883
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: b their quarterbacks got an arm that needs to get

884
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: rid of it quick and he's got the ability to

885
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: do that and see it and read it. So don't

886
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: think that the trend in the league is to have

887
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: everybody get rid of the ball fast. You do what

888
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: your team does best. The Bills have got a really

889
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: good offensive line and they got a quarterback with a

890
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: big a big arm, so they can do things other

891
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: teams don't. They can build their offense around schemes that

892
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: other teams don't want to build their offense around. So

893
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: don't get caught up that the trend in the league

894
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: is this or that. The trend in the league is

895
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: to get your guys to do what they do best

896
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: and give them the weapons to do it. Now, when

897
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about Josh, yeah, the more the merrier, give

898
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: him the most guys that can get open and the

899
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: most in the least amount of time, and get make

900
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: them fast, putting a lot of pressure on the defense.

901
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: I get all of that, But a pat you got

902
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: stopping the run is is it kind of a given?

903
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: In the NFL, sooner or later they're gonna figure out

904
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: a way to stop the run. And even in the

905
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: Bills worst outing in the last couple of years where

906
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: they lost that that that Hurricane game to the Patriots,

907
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: they lost that because of the wind in the in

908
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: the stadium and their inability to score points in it

909
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: rather than stop the Patriots run game. So, yeah, you

910
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: gotta have a My point is, you got to have

911
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: a pass rush, bro. You can't just let leave it

912
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: to the leave it to the chance that you're gonna

913
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: be able to have guys stand up in bat balls down. No,

914
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you got to get after the passer. The ball has

915
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: to come out. And for all those teams that get

916
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: rid of it fast, that's because that their offensive line

917
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: can't hold up. And that's why your pass rush has

918
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: to overcome that. So I'm I get it, and I

919
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: understand your logic, but I'm not quite there with you.

920
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jim in Webster next.

921
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: What you got for his Jim, So, if if the

922
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 2: Bills hadn't gotten Curtis Samuel, I'd agree with you guys

923
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: on two wide receivers.

924
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 6: But I really think we just need one bonifid starter

925
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 6: to replace Gabe Davis and you know, a bigger guy.

926
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 6: But the second would be the defensive line at rusher.

927
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 6: So whichever you know in the draft the first round,

928
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 6: if an edge rusher drops to them and it's a

929
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 6: bonified stud, then go that route. And if you know,

930
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 6: if a wide receiver that's a stud like you know

931
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 6: that drops down a Donis Mitchell or somebody, then go

932
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 6: that route. But whichever the better one is.

933
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could, you could slice it any

934
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: way you want. Jim, I get what you're saying. I

935
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: don't think edge rusher should be dismissed. I would almost

936
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: argue it's a more important position than defensive tackle right now,

937
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: because you know they have fortified their ranks at both spots.

938
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: Austin Johnson and Deshaun Williams to play on the defensive

939
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: interior as backups to Daikwan Jones and Ed Oliver. That's

940
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: not to say they wouldn't draft a defensive tackle as well,

941
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: but you know you're talking about minimums. I would think

942
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: you got to come out of this draft with one

943
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: edge rusher, maybe one defensive tackle too. I mean, you

944
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: got ten picks. I'm not saying you're going to end

945
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 2: up with ten, but if you finish with eight, still

946
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: think you have to come up with an edge rusher,

947
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. And I'm still pounding the table for

948
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: two wide receivers, and then if you want to get

949
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: a corner in, a safety or a linebacker.

950
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: I'll listen to that. Yeah, I would agree. I think

951
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: you can. If the Bills have all ten of these

952
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: picks and they end up taking all of them, you're

953
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna I think three of them. I think there's no

954
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: question three of them are going to read wide receiver.

955
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: If they don't take a wide receiver at twenty eight.

956
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: If they take a wide receiver at twenty eight, and

957
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: maybe only one later on, but if they don't take

958
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: him at twenty eight, if everything's gone off the board

959
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: and nothing falls their way, they're taking three and you

960
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: can take your pick who else the other picks are.

961
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: But if you get to twenty eight, you're right. And

962
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: this is what we don't know. If there's a bona

963
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: fide stud on the board, you're taking him. I don't

964
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: care if he's you know, if he's a punter, you're

965
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a stud a guy who's gonna be

966
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm obviously being facetious. They're not gonna take a punter

967
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: at twenty.

968
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Being hyperbolic to rate that word.

969
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: But if there's a difference maker at edge russer rusher,

970
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver or wide receiver, or safety or corner, they're

971
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna take that guy. They're gonna take that guy, and

972
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: they should.

973
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we're wide

974
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: open for phone calls when we return. So Mike in Rochester,

975
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: Danny and Millberry, Mike and East ro or a hang tight.

976
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 2: You guys will lead us off when we return.

977
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: What is the minimum.

978
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Needed from this Bill's draft class? You tell us at

979
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty when we come

980
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: back Here on One Bill's Live presented by Collide of Health,

981
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

982
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

983
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: All right, welcome in to you hour number two here

984
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you one

985
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: Bill's Live is your program of choice.

986
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing that.

987
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back to the phones where we are

988
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: asking you today, what is the minimum needed from the

989
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: Bill's twenty twenty for draft class? Could be from whatever

990
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: perspective you choose, production specific player specific position. You let

991
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: us know at eight oh three five point fifty where

992
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: we have open lines for you. In the meantime, though,

993
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: we lead off with Mike in Rochester.

994
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: What's up Mike?

995
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 7: Hi, guys to you, good good. I completely agree with that.

996
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 7: We got to keep getting weapons for Josh and I

997
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 7: know say you want to leave the draft with two receivers.

998
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 7: But my question was, do you guys think there's any

999
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 7: veteran out there that we could maybe on a one

1000
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 7: year prove it deal? Because Curtis Samuel's twenty seven and

1001
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 7: then we got we got Shakir, we got Shorter, and

1002
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 7: we got some young guys, but I think someone like

1003
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 7: I know I was looking at the list, we got

1004
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: a Michael Thomas or DJ Charker, Corey Davis, someone that's

1005
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 7: a little more, it has a little more veteran, president's

1006
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 7: a little older. That may help. In addition to yes,

1007
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 7: I still think we need the lights out X receiver

1008
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 7: in the first round. If there's someone that Bean can

1009
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 7: go get, if we go get one of the top

1010
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 7: three or a Thomas and I think those two pieces

1011
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 7: would be good because there are other needs DM D

1012
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 7: line stuff like that.

1013
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

1014
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: I think I don't think you would rule it out.

1015
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: Perfect example, Mike would be if the Bills only come

1016
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: out of the draft with one receiver, and I think

1017
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: then that enhances the likelihood that Brandon Bean, you know,

1018
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: sniffs around in May and June to try to find

1019
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: a receiver still out there in the market and maybe

1020
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: signs them to a cat friendly one year deal where

1021
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: for the most part the market's dried up for free

1022
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: agents and a veteran that's still drifting in the abyss

1023
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: out there would be happy to take it.

1024
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's and that's what you're talking about. You

1025
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: go down that list of you know, the Michael Thomas's

1026
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: and the you know.

1027
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: Corey Davis isn't an option. He actually retired from football

1028
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: at age twenty eight.

1029
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: So you got either Hunter Renfros out on Robinson's and

1030
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: he'be Jay's out there. I mean, you've got some guys

1031
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: out there, and what Brandon might be and no doubt

1032
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: what he's doing is kind of hanging out. He's in

1033
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: no her He's got the draft to look at. They're

1034
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna get some some fresh legs on the roster from

1035
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: this draft, and guys like you know, Michael Thomas, he's

1036
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: out there out of work.

1037
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Now he's injury issue, but yes.

1038
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: He's coming off an injury. So Michael Thomas will come

1039
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: in and they'll say, listen, we'll we'll give it, give

1040
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: you a look, but you got to work out for us,

1041
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: and then they'll give him an offer him and you

1042
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: may get a guy like Michael Thomas for a one

1043
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: year deal on a relatively affordable contract because he wants

1044
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: to get back in the league and prove he can

1045
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: still play now he's thirty one. But nevertheless, he's not

1046
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna have a major role in your offense. He doesn't

1047
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: need to have in this, you know. But if he

1048
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: comes in and can be a sliver of what he

1049
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: was at one point, dude, you got a guy. So

1050
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: there's guys like that out there, uh, you know, and

1051
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: you're like, we've been talking about Tyler boys out there.

1052
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: DJ Clark, JJ Shark. I'm sorry, you can go down

1053
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: the list. Randall Cobb, how ja Kim grant me? You know,

1054
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: Miko Hardman, I mean, the people are gonna look at him,

1055
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna give him a look because he's twenty six.

1056
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: You know, some of that goes on. There's a ton

1057
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: of guys out there who were in the league a

1058
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: year ago or recently out of the league. But to

1059
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: come in to have those guys come in that you've

1060
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: got to go down to the guys who are fresh out,

1061
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: like the objs, Alan Robinson's, Michael Thomas is like we said,

1062
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: those guys are in their early thirties and have a

1063
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: chance to, you know, maybe give you a little something

1064
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: or whatever they have left. But that's what, you know,

1065
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: that's all you're gonna get. Maybe they come in and

1066
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: they're you know, they got to spring in their step.

1067
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there's that whole list

1068
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: is going to be available later on, maybe right up

1069
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: till training camp, and they'll say, okay, finally they got

1070
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: to take what is out there now?

1071
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: What is the minimum needed from this Bill's draft class.

1072
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: You let us know at eight oh three five point

1073
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1074
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 2: got open lines for you, so be sure to chime

1075
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: in if you have a minute or two. We go

1076
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: to Denny in Millbury next. What you got for his Denny, Hey,

1077
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: thanks for accepting my call.

1078
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Speaker 8: So I am in a weird camp. I am in

1079
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 8: the trade down camp. I want to start with a

1080
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 8: little statistics. At twenty eight. The last player to make

1081
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 8: the Pro Bowl was mark Ingram in twenty eleven, So

1082
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 8: staying at twenty eight is you So it's Calvin Benjamin,

1083
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: by the way, was in twenty fourteen.

1084
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: Twenty eight.

1085
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 8: So my thing is, we need, we need to we

1086
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 8: need to use these draft picks. So I want us

1087
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 8: to trade down, utilize some of those later draft picks

1088
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 8: to sweep in the pot, and really like take advantage

1089
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 8: of the first, second, and third. Our second day is

1090
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 8: looking pretty pretty because of the fact that we're not

1091
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 8: having that third round draft pick, so I think it

1092
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 8: would be a really good for us to trade down

1093
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 8: get some extra picks. When it comes to the players

1094
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 8: I want. I want to speedster at wide receiver, I

1095
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 8: want to be able to blow the top off the defense,

1096
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 8: which is gonna open up stuff for coaching Concade even

1097
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 8: secure and speaking up, blowing off the top of the defense.

1098
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 8: Safety is a huge issue. We haven't thought about that

1099
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 8: in like a decade since we signed Hide employer. But

1100
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 8: if people start, you know, doing something along those lines,

1101
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 8: it's gonna change all of the things that deft inst

1102
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 8: to do. So I really wanted to lock down safety

1103
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 8: and get one wide receiver and just make sure we

1104
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 8: get the most draft picks earlier than we can't, you know,

1105
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 8: trade out of the foot, but try to keep trading

1106
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 8: up into the second day if we can't as well,

1107
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 8: and make sure these picks us this year, not twenty

1108
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 8: twenty five. Sis up.

1109
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you all right a lot in there, Jenny,

1110
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call.

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in the like nobody ever goes

1112
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl from pick twenty eight. Yeah, because

1113
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: you got like ten guys every year that go to

1114
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl who were drafted after number twenty eight,

1115
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: So you know, don't don't let that alter your opinion.

1116
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. I like casting a wide

1117
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: net because particularly for the fact that the Bills have

1118
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: gotten quality above not even quality great players in the

1119
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: middle rounds of the draft four, five and sixes and sevens.

1120
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: They've got some great players from those spots in the draft.

1121
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: So the more you have, the more likely it is

1122
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: you get another one. So I'm I'm kind of with

1123
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: you on that, but you're going to be passing up

1124
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: some really good prospects if you skip the first round

1125
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: and trade out of it.

1126
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: I yeah, I think they do move around the board

1127
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I I think they're in an

1128
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned in an effort to get a third round pick.

1129
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: I think they move up knocked back because with the

1130
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: draft capital they have in round four, I think they

1131
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: use that to get up into the bottom of round three.

1132
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: You know what, do they have three fours now? Now

1133
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: two fours, three fives, that's what they have. They have

1134
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: three fives and two fours, So I think they packaged

1135
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: some of those to try to get into the bottom

1136
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: of day two. In round three, we know how ticked

1137
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean was that they were awarded a compensatory fourth,

1138
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: not a third, as all indications were up until the

1139
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: eleventh hour that they were going to get and then

1140
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: that fell by the wayside, they tried to appeal it,

1141
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: didn't get it overturned, and here they are no third

1142
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: round pick. So I would anticipate they're going to package

1143
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: some of those early day three picks and parlay that

1144
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 2: into a late three to try to, you know, get

1145
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: in the top one hundred with a third choice.

1146
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got five picks between one twenty eight and

1147
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: one sixty three. They got one twenty eight and one

1148
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: sixty three and three between them, and so they that's

1149
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the meat of this draft if and when

1150
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: if they move, it's gonna be because they have assets

1151
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: in that spot. Now I'm talking about moving the up

1152
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: in the top of the draft, some of those spots

1153
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: are gonna get used up because they're the ones that

1154
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: are valuable. Now you can talk about next year. They

1155
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: got two two's, which so next year maybe one of

1156
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: those goes away with this draft. But I'm I'm with you.

1157
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Cast a wide net, get a bunch, and trust your

1158
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: process of picking the better players than other teams are

1159
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: able to pick at that because I don't think I'm

1160
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know other teams like I know

1161
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: the Bills obviously, but I don't know how you can't

1162
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: be happy with the way the Bills draft in the

1163
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: middle of the rounds.

1164
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in a car next. What's up, Mike?

1165
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I'm looking at from the standpoint of the

1166
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 9: Bills need to decide if the guy that they're going

1167
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 9: to get at twenty eight or if they trade back,

1168
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 9: is going to be a number one wide receiver in

1169
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: this league because they need a number one. I mean,

1170
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 9: Shakira and Samuel are great and kay, but they need

1171
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 9: a number one, and they need a guy that they

1172
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 9: perceive is going to be a number one. Because if

1173
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 9: the guy that get at twenty eight or thirty three

1174
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 9: or whatever the number is they don't think will ever

1175
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 9: really be a number one, will be nothing more than

1176
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 9: a good number two, then you need to trade up.

1177
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 9: And either if they think la Get is going to

1178
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 9: be the guy at twenty eight and they can get

1179
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 9: him and they're convinced that he's a number one guy,

1180
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 9: then you stay. But if they don't think that Laguette

1181
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 9: or Brian Thomas or whoever else are going to get

1182
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 9: at twenty eight is going to be more than a

1183
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 9: number two, then this is your opportunity and you've got

1184
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 9: a wide open spot for the number one. You got

1185
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 9: a five years that he can grow, trade up and

1186
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 9: I try to get one of the big three.

1187
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'm not there. I just saw for

1188
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: two years in a row a team win the Super

1189
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: Bowl without a number one. In fact, they traded at

1190
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: number one and then went to two super Bowls and

1191
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: won them.

1192
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: And you've got a receiver until round two last year.

1193
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm and I I know that this sounds like I'm

1194
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of it falls on Josh. I get that,

1195
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: but that's that's the way the world turns this offense.

1196
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: Whether they draft zero wide receivers or ten wide receivers

1197
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: in this draft, this offense falls on Josh. And they're

1198
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna be good. With or without. They're gonna be good

1199
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: either way. Ten receivers in this draft or zero receivers,

1200
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be good, really good. They're gonna be hard

1201
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: to beat again. Nobody beats nobody in three years. Nobody

1202
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: has beaten this team by more than one possession in

1203
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: the regular season. Nobody. So they're gonna be there again.

1204
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: And if if you're gonna spend assets, spend them on

1205
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: the whole roster and know that The strength of your

1206
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: roster is the guy taking snaps and those guys you've

1207
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: already got there, the five guys in front of him,

1208
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: the tight end, the running back, and a bunch and

1209
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers and Khalil Shakir and Curtis

1210
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: Samuel who are pretty good in their own right. Let's go,

1211
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: because we've seen teams win the Super Bowl with less.

1212
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: So Donald, I'm not there. I mean, I'm I'm all

1213
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: for it, right, I don't get I'm not. I'm not

1214
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: saying don't do it, but I'm not saying that there's

1215
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: you are you got your hands? You know I'm not.

1216
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: We've had chaining myself to the desk.

1217
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: We've had multiple draft gurus come on our show here

1218
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: and confirm I mean, from Daniel Jeremiah to Jim Naggy

1219
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl to Dane Brugler this week tell

1220
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: us that the depth in this receiver class goes three

1221
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: rounds and you can get somebody that can contribute in

1222
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: their rookie season as late as round three. So to

1223
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: trade up for one of the top three would be great,

1224
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: but all is not lost if you don't do that.

1225
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: And I think if you pick one at twenty eight,

1226
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: you're probably getting a future number one wide receiver because

1227
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: it's that deep this year, they're already talking about how

1228
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: they might set a record for most receivers ever taken

1229
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: in round one.

1230
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: The record at seven.

1231
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: We got people mocking that they'll be eight. So yeah,

1232
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think all is lost if you

1233
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: don't go up and get one of the top three guys.

1234
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: Right, I'm yeah, certainly, Let's face those guys have the

1235
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,959
Speaker 1: You have reason to believe one of those three guys.

1236
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: Maybe all three of those guys are difference makers, no

1237
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: question about it, but that no more so than you

1238
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: ever have in any other draft. So and believe me,

1239
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: if Malik neighbors are Marvin Harrison Junior or Roma Doonza

1240
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: go to the Minnesota Vikings or the New York Jets,

1241
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: or pick pick your school, pick your pick your team,

1242
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: or your logo, there's no guarantee they're gonna be able

1243
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: to help that team or pull him out of the depths.

1244
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: You know they're not gonna. I mean, if if Marvin

1245
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior gets taken by the Arizona Cardinals, it's gonna

1246
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: be hard for him, even with Kyler Murray at quarterback

1247
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: to have the kind of career that that any other

1248
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: great receiver has had. You know, even Larry Fitzgerald they're

1249
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: in Arizona.

1250
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: Now, he had a Hall of Fame career, did get

1251
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: to play with Kurt Warner for two years, three years,

1252
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: and Carson Palmer.

1253
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: So it was it's a you know, the receivers are great,

1254
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and they may make a difference, but I'm

1255
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: telling you what. The guy that's important is the guy

1256
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 1: taking snaps. It's been proven year after year after year.

1257
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: Look back at the great like even Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh,

1258
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: that guy was special. And Antonio Brown found out he

1259
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: was special. Juju Smith Schuster found out he was special.

1260
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Uh heinz Ward found out knew he was special. Uh

1261
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, he elevated a ton of guys who went

1262
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: other places and could not get it done. It's the guy.

1263
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: He's there, the and there. That's why you can't find him.

1264
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: They're just you know, they just turn up some sometimes.

1265
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: So I'm all, I'm I'm listen. I'm leaning out the window,

1266
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 1: blowing the horn on the wide receiver train. But I'm

1267
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm smart enough to know one way or the other.

1268
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: This this team's gonna be good anyway, even if he's

1269
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: not twenty eighth pick or the seventeenth pick if they

1270
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: trade up.

1271
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones into Pablo in Rochester.

1272
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: What's up, Pablo, Guys, I watch you every day.

1273
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 10: It's nice to finally get on the phone with you.

1274
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: Glad you did it.

1275
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: Looking at more.

1276
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 10: Generally building a roster, I would love to see every

1277
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 10: one of these picks at least be worthy of the

1278
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 10: practice squad, and of that, I think four to six

1279
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 10: of them probably need to make the fifty three. The

1280
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 10: Bills only really need a couple of starters out of

1281
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 10: this draft, but they need guys who can start maybe

1282
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 10: by next year.

1283
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a more realistic way to look

1284
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: at it, Pablo. I mean you're right, Get four five

1285
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: guys on the roster on game day from the rookie class. Yeah,

1286
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: that's pretty good, and then have them be ascending and

1287
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: maybe have all ten guys hanging around the building for

1288
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: the for the all year on the practice squad or injured,

1289
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: what have you. I think that's a realistic way to

1290
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: look at it, no question about it. It's hard to

1291
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: get on an NFL roster and to hang around the

1292
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: building to give yourself a chance to develop and then

1293
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: hone your skills and use the traits that you're drafted

1294
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: with and get polished enough to say, oh yeah, now

1295
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: he can play. Yeah, I think that's really realistic.

1296
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: Think about James Cook, you know, second round pick two

1297
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: years ago, back up to singletary his rookie year and

1298
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: then second year bang starter. You know, top five in

1299
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: total yards from scrimmage last year. So yeah, you keep

1300
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: doing that, your team's going to be pretty healthy in

1301
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: terms of talent and playmaking ability, especially on the offensive

1302
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: side of the ball. So, Roxanne and Ken Moore, what's up,

1303
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: Rock Sanne.

1304
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 11: Hi, nice to speak with you, Love you both. I

1305
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 11: am not understanding why the guys that are on the

1306
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 11: practice squad that have only been brought on the team

1307
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 11: within the last couple of years, why are they not

1308
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 11: considered a little bit more heavily in the decision to

1309
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 11: move up onto the first squad.

1310
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's a good question, Roxanne, and thanks for calling.

1311
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: So I'll I'll just say this, Basically, your practice squad

1312
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: is additional depth for your roster in the event of

1313
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 2: rash of injury. It is also a haven to develop

1314
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: players that you believe, if they're not quite ready to

1315
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: be a player worthy of a roster spot on your

1316
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, you believe, with good coaching and

1317
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: development and their want to and desire to be better,

1318
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: can get to that level and contribute to your football team.

1319
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: Now, all that being said.

1320
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: This is a very hard team to make. It's a

1321
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: very hard fifty three man roster to make because it

1322
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: has been so flushed with talent. I would say if

1323
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: there was every year in the Bean McDermott era since

1324
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 2: maybe twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, for a practice squad player

1325
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: to prove they deserve a spot on the fifty three,

1326
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: it's this year. Because we've seen more offseason turnover, with

1327
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: veterans moving out the door, salary cap casualties of proven

1328
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: veteran players no longer here. I think there are going

1329
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: to be more openings for late draft choices and for

1330
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: practice squad guys to make the fifty three This year

1331
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: for the Bills, it's just been a tough roster to crack.

1332
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they don't like these guys. Tyrrell

1333
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: Shaver's justin shorter. Those are guys that are going to

1334
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: be right back in the mix this year, and it's

1335
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a different year for them because last year

1336
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: they come in they're trying to make it, and it's

1337
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: a big transition to go from a college player, particularly

1338
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: where those guys were playing and getting get up in

1339
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: the NFL where you got to find your own place

1340
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: to live, you got to make your own way, you

1341
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: got to make set up your own household, and then

1342
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, fumble and stumble your way through a regular

1343
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: season where you're on ir what are you allowed to do?

1344
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: Where are you allowed to go? What are you allowed

1345
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: to how are you allowed to be in the building?

1346
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: And then you come back and you'll watch these guys

1347
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: get drafted and it's be like you've seen it. They're

1348
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: going to be much more ready to attack training camp

1349
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: this year as a pro football player than they were

1350
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: a year ago, and you can you can imagine they're

1351
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna be in a much better headspace. Those guys tend

1352
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: to be forgotten by fans like like Brownie and I

1353
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: and and the regular people because we don't see, we

1354
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: don't think about them, and we think, well, they're not

1355
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: good enough. Well, like Brownie said, an NFL roster is

1356
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: really tough to make. All of them are, let alone

1357
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: one that's that's winning a playoff game every year, right,

1358
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: So it's hard to get on the field. But they

1359
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: do have the physical traits that you need to learn

1360
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: how to do it. We'll see how much they've learned

1361
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: from that last year. This year's training camp. Training camp

1362
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: kicks off, and that's that's basically. They're here because there's

1363
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: somebody in the staff, probably a lot of guys on

1364
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: the coaching staff who think, you know what, he's got

1365
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: a chance to really help us. I like that guy,

1366
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep him around. And there's probably more than

1367
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: one guy saying that about him. So take heart in

1368
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: that that they've got some guys on the roster they're

1369
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: given a chance to again who they've got hope for that.

1370
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: Shavers and Shorter are two guys that to me are

1371
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: very intriguing for this coming year and we'll see if

1372
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: they can make the most of it.

1373
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: Tremendous size, both of them, both of them ato three. Oh.

1374
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: If they drafted anybody in this draft who looked like

1375
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: Terrell Shavers and Justin Shorter, everybody should be excited about it,

1376
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: and there's room at the top of the roster now

1377
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver room. Let's let's see him.

1378
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody moves up with Peg.

1379
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,440
Speaker 1: Two Pegs Gabe and Yeah, Steph are both gone.

1380
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: Right Ato three oh five point fifty one, eighty eight,

1381
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty. Then I'm gonna get on board.

1382
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: What is the minimum needed from this Bill's draft class

1383
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: for the upcoming twenty twenty four campaign. You can let

1384
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: us know what that is. We'll check in on the

1385
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: tweets sheet. We're also going to have a discussion when

1386
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: we come back on the best receiver class in recent memory.

1387
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 2: Some people believe it was the twenty fourteen draft class.

1388
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: I would respectfully disagree. I'll make my submission when we

1389
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

1390
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's.

1391
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 12: Radio, to just run through some of these somebody wrote

1392
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 12: the twenty fourteenth draft classes.

1393
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1394
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you on a Wednesday, and with all

1395
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: of the hype about what a great wide receiver draft

1396
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: this is expected to be here in twenty twenty four,

1397
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: they're saying one of the best in recent memory. Someone

1398
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: put a piece together online and basically said, it's the

1399
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen draft class. That's the best receiver class ever,

1400
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 2: and don't say anything different. It's not even up for debate.

1401
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: And I would argue, well, you might not be very

1402
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: old then, yeah, right, because you clearly don't remember some

1403
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: classes of the past. So I'll run down the twenty

1404
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: fourteen draft class, which Bills fans should remember well, because

1405
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: that was the draft that the Bills traded up to

1406
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: four to take the first receiver off the board that year.

1407
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins at pick four, Mike Evans, who has had

1408
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: a thousand yard season every season he's been in the league.

1409
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: I think it's ten or eleven now, OBJ at twelve,

1410
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks at twenty, Kelvin Benjamin at twenty eight, pretty

1411
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:29,520
Speaker 2: darn good. Round one, Round two, Marquise Leeugh, Jordan Matthews,

1412
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: Paul Richardson come again, Davante Adams, good, Cody Latimer, Alan Robinson,

1413
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: decent career, Jarvis Landry. And then I'll just give you

1414
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: a few in round three Josh Huff, Dante Moncreef, John Brown,

1415
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: Dree Archer. So that's your twenty fourteen class. Now, some

1416
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: have said the twenty twenty class was pretty good. Okay,

1417
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll run that down real quick. Henry Ruggs unfortunate. Jerry

1418
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: Judy on his second team, Ceed Lamb top three receiver

1419
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: in the league. Jalen Rager bounced around a little bit,

1420
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, Brandon I YUK second round, T Higgins, Michael Pittman,

1421
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: k J. Hamler, Chase Claypool, Van Jefferson, Denzel Mims, Lynn Bowden,

1422
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: Brian Edwards, Devin Duverney. What do you think of those

1423
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: two in comparison to one another? Ah, I've got a

1424
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: receiver class it's even better, but than those, Yes, which

1425
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: one do you think is better of those two? It's

1426
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: probably twenty fourteen, right.

1427
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: I would say yes, because well here's the goes a

1428
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: little deeper, more complete. Yes, and you yes, I would

1429
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: say that. Well, yeah, when we're four years in, I mean,

1430
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: you know what T.

1431
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: Higgins is, You know what Justin Jefferson is, you know

1432
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 2: what Michael Pittman is. Also know you also know what

1433
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool is.

1434
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: That's right, And yeah, Denzel Mim, you forget the hype

1435
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: that Mims and Claypool came out with just like the

1436
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: rest of those guys, I mean, just like some of

1437
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: these guys this year. So I'm yeah, the ones that,

1438
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, the more complete career of are the ones

1439
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: that are.

1440
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 2: I still maintain that the gold standard for wide receiver

1441
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: class is nineteen ninety six. I will run down the

1442
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:38,919
Speaker 2: list for you. Keishawn Johnson, Yeah, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison,

1443
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, Yeah, okay, Eric Molds round two, Alex van

1444
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: Dijk just dismissed it.

1445
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: It was a Jets pick.

1446
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: Amani Tumor okay, Brian still don't know who that is.

1447
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: Mussin Muhammad, Oh yes, very good play.

1448
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: Bobby Ingram, long career, Derek Mays eh round three, Terrell Owens,

1449
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: Stepford Williams, and in round five Joe Horn. Oh yeah,

1450
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: that's nineteen ninety six.

1451
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: That's that's the gold standard. Yeah. And I'll say this too.

1452
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: You got you know, Terrell Owens in the third round

1453
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: as a you know, Hall of famer, and the rest.

1454
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: Of those Jevin Harrison Hall of Harrison, Hall.

1455
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: Of Famer, Eric Moulds, Hall of Fame caliber player who

1456
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: was on the wrong team at the wrong time.

1457
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean Amani Tumor number one named Busen Mohammed number

1458
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: one receiver was also a Hall.

1459
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: Of Fame nominee kind of guy, one of those guys.

1460
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: That that injuries kind of got him at the end.

1461
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: That's right, that's a that's a big class right there.

1462
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: To me, that's still the gold standard.

1463
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, guy, Old guys like us can always

1464
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: pull out better guys than the young guys can because

1465
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: they you know what they can. What do you say,

1466
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen.

1467
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: Was twenty fourteen, which I mean, there's some names there

1468
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: twenty four teen, but you know, Davante Adams in round two, nice,

1469
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: Alan Robbins, Jervis Landry, Okay, careers, you know, yeah, but

1470
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't. It's not ninety nineteen ninety six.

1471
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: So hopefully we've convinced you.

1472
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise.

1473
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

1474
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: oh five fifty, where we're asking you what is the

1475
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: minimum needed from this bill's draft class.

1476
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: We go to Steve and Syracuse next. What's up, Steve?

1477
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. We're taking my call. I'm regarding

1478
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 4: the wide receivers. I think I think uh in the

1479
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 4: first round, if we stay Pat if we stay pat

1480
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 4: we got it. We gotta give McConkie. I think he's uh,

1481
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 4: he's intelligent, great rev Warner, great hands, and he's got

1482
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 4: four to three nine speed. He will fill it real nicely.

1483
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 4: And then hires the second pick. I think they said,

1484
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 4: we get another wide receiver somewhere in the draft, but

1485
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 4: be toward the top. Also Worthy. Now they might not

1486
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 4: be too too keen and Worthy, but I'll tell you this.

1487
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 4: We got to realize is that no kickoff system now

1488
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 4: and put him back there kicking return kicks. Besides being

1489
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 4: a receiver. I'm telling you that you're gonna be a

1490
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: lot of defenses that we're very nervous about.

1491
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: That you're talking about Worthy, Yeah, Worthy, Yeah, exact. Unworthy

1492
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: will be long gone by the time you get to

1493
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: pick sixty for the Bills.

1494
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, right, So we get to we

1495
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 4: get another receiver anywhere somewhere, all right, But then we

1496
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 4: got if we come away, I figure, if we come

1497
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 4: out of a draft with six players, even just six players,

1498
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna be very good. You're gonna have two wide receivers,

1499
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Speaker 4: the linebacker, safety, defensive end, defensive tackle, and running back.

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Speaker 4: And that'd be a successful draft right there.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true. You're right. If if we got

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: a starting caliber player at all those spots, you would ask,

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01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: that might be a little be a Grand Slam home

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: run and you can circle the bases twice after that one.

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve using a baseball reference, I didn't expect that.

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01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes, including doing something stupid like circling the basis twice. Yes,

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01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: six out of ten guys that can make the roster

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: and contribute is would be unprecedented. Almost. There's probably it's

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01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: probably happened at some point, but on a roster is

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: like the Bills, that would be unbelievable. So that it's

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01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a pipe dream like we always

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01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of do in this We always kind of overshoot. Like,

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01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, Xavier Worthy and Lad mcconkee are not going

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01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: to the same team in this draft. Yeah, probably not.

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: And look, I wouldn't be unhappy if they took McConkey.

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't because I think he can be a producer

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: in any defense.

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think he's closer to being pro ready

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: than a lot of these other guys are, at least

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: confidently pro ready. There's certainly guys that are going to

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01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: be ready to step on the field, particularly the top

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: three or four guys. But McConkie is a guy who

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: is gonna carve out a niche in the league and

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: play for you know, he's gonna put together a nice

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: decade of a career. I think because of his ability

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: to get open. His football IQ seems to jump out

1527
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: at you, and he he runs routes, catches the ball.

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01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a wide receiver.

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01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: I see Wes Welker when I watch him play.

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01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: He's he's way bigger than Wes. He's five or eleven, yeah,

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: and you know, and he's four to three nine speed.

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01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Wes Welker never ran that. But yeah, that's the kind

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: of guy you're He's a slot receiver, so he's a

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01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: niche guy. He's not going to be in a big

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01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: time outside receiver like a Darell Owens or a Calvin Johnson,

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: somewe of those jokers, or a Jamar Chase, but he's

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01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: going to be a very good guy. I think the

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: problem with Ladd is I think they just found out

1539
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: they got a guy like that on the roster already

1540
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: in Kali shak Shakir really played well for them down

1541
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: the stretch last year, and I think, you know, they

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01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 1: trust him, and I know Josh does. The touchdown he

1543
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: caught in that Chiefs game was spectacular at the pylon.

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 2: And don't forget the one he got against Pittsburgh and.

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01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: The yeah, the the shaking bay. Yeah yeah, the one

1546
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: where he gave the stick move in between the hash more.

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: I was that was.

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01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: Elite sos Michael Walker on his rear end.

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01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: So I'm so they've got kind of lad McConkie already here.

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01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only that's the only thing that stands

1551
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: in the way of me saying, yeah, take them. I

1552
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: think they need someone that can line up outside full

1553
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: time polished route runner, you know, and can stretch the field,

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: be explosive, because that's all we've heard from Brandon Bean

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott all off season. We heard it from

1556
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: them at the combine talking about explosive plays and how

1557
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: they need to take the top off a defense again,

1558
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: because a lot of what we saw in the Bills

1559
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: passing game last year was at or near the line

1560
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 2: of scrimmage or at best in the intermediate area. Is

1561
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: now part of that is the way defenses are playing them.

1562
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: But it's also because they didn't have anybody to threaten

1563
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: defenses and stretch the field. So you need a more

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: explosive player that can deliver, if not explosive plays at

1565
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: the catch after the catch.

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01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you need somebody that can do something nobody

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01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: else on your roster can do right, and do it

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: at a high level, at the pro level. That's what

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01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting to me, Steve, is right after

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: the Digs trade, ninety percent of the calls we took

1572
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: basically said you got to get up into the top ten,

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01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: get one of those top three guys. Now you have

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01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: to do it. And now as we've gotten further removed

1575
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,919
Speaker 2: from that trade happening, you got guys like Steven Syracuse

1576
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 2: saying let's just stand pat and be able to get somebody.

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: It's almost like everybody had to calm down, you know

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01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, Yeah, I get it.

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: They've got some guys and you and I I mean

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01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: we probably and maybe for no good reason.

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Well I think we fell victim to it a little ourselves.

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for no good reason. We're giving a lot of

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 1: credit to the guys they've got. You know, Curtis, Samuel Shavers, Shorter,

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Shakir Kincaid, Cook knocks. They got some guys that are

1585
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: proven to be really productive in this league and some

1586
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: guys that have some potential to be and have been

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01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: kept around because somebody in the building thinks, somebody who

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01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: watches them practice thinks they can do it. If and

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01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: I say it again, if we drafted some guys anybody,

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01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 1: even if it's at twenty eight, with the same physical

1591
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: skill set as Shavers or Shorter, everybody going crazy. Those

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01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: guys have got They've got. Those guys bring something to

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: the table, and their injuries and the strength of the

1594
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: roster a year ago wouldn't allow them to flourish or

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: be a part of it. So now that deck has

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01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: been cleared and they're gonna that table's been set for

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01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: them to sit down and have a meal, and I

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01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna eat. In this training camp and in

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01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: these offseason workouts, they're gonna get a chance some opportunities

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: they did not get last year.

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01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: Jumping back on the tweet sheet, Jmax says, two solid

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01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: starters and some solid depth with replacement potential in a

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01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: year or two. I'm pro trading back to add capital

1604
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: and trading for Ayuk or Higgins. As of right now, Higgins,

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01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: all indications are he is staying on their roster for

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01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The Bengals want to run it back

1607
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: with a healthy Joe Burrow and take one more crack

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01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: at it with Higgins and Chase on their roster. So

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01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound as though he's going to be able

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01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 2: to get pried away from Cincinnati. And the forty nine

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01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 2: ers are claiming that Brandon Ayuk is not up for trade.

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: I think they want to keep him on his fifty

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01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: year option. I don't know if they want to sign

1614
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: him to an extension, but they certainly don't want to

1615
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: trade him at least those are the indications coming from

1616
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: GM John Lynch, so doesn't look like they are options

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01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: as of right now. Cherry Red says, hey, hey, hey,

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01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: Brownie and mister Tasker. We need two good wideouts and

1619
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: one sleeper at any position. Would love to somehow get Romadunze,

1620
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: but moving up to seventeen to twenty two to get

1621
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: big game AD or Brian Thomas, or getting mcconkei, or

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 2: if we're lucky, ad at twenty eight and Laget or

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01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: Piersall at sixty. Wow, you want to get me excited?

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01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: Get a d.

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01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: Mitchell at twenty eight and then get leget or Piersol

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: at sixty. Oh my gosh, I'd be doing laps around

1627
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: this building if that happens. Oh my gosh, I really

1628
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: like Pearson.

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01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: Well, our guy Cherry red here chiman that he knows

1630
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: all the number, he knows what buttons to push on, Brownie.

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01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: Let me let me say that, because yeah, you hit

1632
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: all the high spots, Piersol, Legette, a D. Mconkey, Brian Thomas. Yeah,

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01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: that's yeah, you hit all the highlights. There you go

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,879
Speaker 1: and anyone, if you get any two of those six guys,

1635
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Brownie will go home and take a nap. Yeah, and

1636
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: wait for training camp.

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01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: Chucking the ball all over the field. Let's go, gotta

1638
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: take a break here. Some final thoughts on the tweetee

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: when we return on One Bill's Live presented by col

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01:27:47,479 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Some final thoughts

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01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: on the tweets sheet here on a Wednesday edition of

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: One Bills Live. In terms of the minimum needed out

1643
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: of the Bills twenty twenty four draft class, Connor says

1644
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: be able to prove to the coaching staff that they

1645
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: can be week one starters. As we all know, McDermott

1646
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: is not one that likes to start rookies week one,

1647
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: but this year it is a definite need. The youth

1648
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: movement is absolutely necessary, but it only works if the

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01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: young players can prove it. John says this needs to

1650
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: be a generational draft for the Bills. End of discussion.

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: John serious as a heart attack. Larry says, two or

1652
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 2: three immediate starters, with others being valuable. Depth with starting

1653
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 2: ability definitely needs starting wide receiver must get faster as

1654
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: a team too. What do you say to the team

1655
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: that's a speed element.

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01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: That's I'll listen to. That I'll to that's hold on.

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: A second, Curtis, Curtis Samuel runs a four to three

1658
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: to one. We know Isabella runs a four to three

1659
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: to one. You get an a d Mitchell or a

1660
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas that runs in the low four threes too.

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty fast, as Rasul Douglas. How fastest Christian Benford?

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Though kyer Elam's fast.

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01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: He is, but we'll see if he gets on the field,

1664
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: and plus Mike Edwards, you got rap team speed goes

1665
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and we'll listen to that.

1666
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: But yes, you're right, and I'm not saying just one

1667
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: fast guy at the top of the draft's gonna do it.

1668
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 1: You need some guys you need. You need to stay

1669
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: fresh out there, no question about it.

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01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Don on the tweets sheet says, a down the field

1671
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: threat that can stretch the defense so safeties can't be

1672
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 2: in the box and win fifty to fifty balls and

1673
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 2: a safety in front seven help on defense. Carl says,

1674
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: X receive rotational three technique defensive tackle, potential, starting caliber safety, center,

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01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: and depth.

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01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh is that all, Carl, that's presto change. Oh we're done.

1677
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: Good lord. Oh yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, not of them.

1678
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: They'll get. You need some starter. You need at least

1679
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: one starter, don't you. I don't know. That's it for

1680
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: us today.

1681
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow more draft coverage.

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Speaker 7: He