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Speaker 1: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now.

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Speaker 2: We are joined now by Senator Rick Scott, who is

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Speaker 2: working on the big beautiful bill which Trump would like

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Speaker 2: to have signed by July fourth. So we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a sec. But first, Senator Scott, what have

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Speaker 2: you thought of President Trump's diplomacy in the Middle East

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Speaker 2: and how this has all played itself out so far.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was with the President when he announced the

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Speaker 3: ceasefire yesterday and he was, of course, this is very happy. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm proud of decision he made that a lot of

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Speaker 3: people probably would have a very difficult time making. But

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Speaker 3: it's going to preserve our safety and the safety of

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Speaker 3: people throughout them, not just an Israel, but throughout the

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Speaker 3: Middle East. So the decision he made to stop the

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Speaker 3: importons in a round with a big deal and then

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Speaker 3: to work to work to get the ceasefire happening. It's

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Speaker 3: I mean, if look at what this guy has done.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know people up here they own and say,

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Speaker 3: oh he wants you know, he wants to go to war.

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Speaker 3: This is the last person who wants to go to war.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like war, he wants peace. He doesn't want

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want anybody you know killed now he doesn't know.

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Speaker 3: His job is to defend our freedom and defend the

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Speaker 3: safety of American citizens. But I'm very proud of him,

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Speaker 3: and and I hope this this is fire works and

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Speaker 3: the ranst An opportunity. Now they can decide to be

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Speaker 4: Senator Scott, can we get you to can we get

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Speaker 4: you to call back on a We got to try

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Speaker 4: to sell connection here again in a second, because I

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Speaker 4: claim I don't I can't pick up about half of

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Speaker 4: what he's saying there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's breaking it out. Let's get him, Let's get

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Speaker 2: him back. But what he's talking about is he says

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Speaker 2: he was with President Trump for the announcement of the

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Speaker 2: ceasefire yesterday, and when he get we get him back in,

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Speaker 2: we will ask him about the decision and the timeframe

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Speaker 2: of the so called Big Beautiful Bill, which is the

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Speaker 2: crown jewel of the Trump legislative plan.

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Speaker 4: I do think a point here, Clay, is that the

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Speaker 4: fact that Trump is in a position knowing what he knows,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of conversations clearly with our allies in

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Speaker 4: Israel about how things are going that Israel was able

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Speaker 4: to degrade Iranian nuclear and conventional military capacity so much

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Speaker 4: is just indicative of how fast these operations were able

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Speaker 4: to achieve the success that they needed. Senator Scott, thanks

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Speaker 4: for calling back. What is next you think, though? So

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Speaker 4: if the ceasefire holds, what are the administration's hope for

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Speaker 4: get to a more peaceful and stable Middle East?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we've got to continue to do what

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Speaker 3: President Trump did his first term is just continue build

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Speaker 3: relationships with all the countries to say, look, let's all

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Speaker 3: get along, let's all figure out how do we all

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Speaker 3: build our economies. Let's make sure that we all respect

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Speaker 3: the sovereignty of true uh, and let's build our economies

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Speaker 3: which helps all of our citizens. And so uh. The

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Speaker 3: Abraham Accords were a big deal and that we need

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Speaker 3: to expand them. But yeah, look, I think all of

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Speaker 3: us hope for peace. All of us hope you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, we we want we want peace in in

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Speaker 3: in Iran and everywhere. We don't want who wants to

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Speaker 3: go to war? I mean that, you know, I served

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Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen. It's up to Iran, though,

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Speaker 3: it's it's they're you know, if you look around the

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Speaker 3: world around the world, who are the destabilizing groups. Well,

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Speaker 3: in Latin America it's Cuba. UH. In the Middle East

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Speaker 3: get it, but they do. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go into the decision being made on the big

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Speaker 1: What's the timeframe?

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Speaker 3: I'm very optimistic that we'll get there. Now we're not

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Speaker 3: there yet. The you know, we have we have to do,

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Speaker 3: so we ought to be doing those things. The other

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Speaker 3: thing prisident Trump wants is he wants to bounce budget.

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Speaker 3: We just passed thirty seven trained dollars for the debt,

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Speaker 3: how to get our spending under control. We've had a

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Speaker 3: So we still have a lot of work to do

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Speaker 3: in the Senate. So that's what we're working on. We're

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Speaker 3: working hard to find other ways to save money because ultimately,

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Speaker 3: every American taxpayer is going to pay for this fiscal insanity.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you something to think about. So if

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Speaker 3: we were we were running around two train dollar deficits, right,

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Speaker 3: so if we said everybody's just going to pay there,

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Speaker 3: you know, everybody's all the taxpayers. You pay your share

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Speaker 3: to cover that deficit just for this year, not the

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Speaker 3: depth thirty seven trillion. How much of a tax increase

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Speaker 1: Oh? I mean in order to pay our share?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's thirty seven trillion dollars and we

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Speaker 4: Three hundred No, just the deficat, Oh, just the deficit,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty eighty percent more eighty pikes. Okay, I could

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Speaker 3: they say, oh, just tax the rich, you know, just

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Speaker 2: It have to be like ninety five percent all their income.

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Speaker 2: What's you're going it have to be like ninety five percent.

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Speaker 2: It's a crazy stat because the top one percent pay

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred thousand, Yeah, it would take one hundred

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Speaker 4: This is this is where I'm reminded of Senator Scott

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Speaker 4: that and this is true. This is a New York

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Speaker 4: Senator Scott, because everyone gets all, we've got to do

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Speaker 4: something about the spending, But then we can't do anything

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Speaker 4: in this circle all the time. You ran a big business,

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Speaker 3: I'm probably the only guy that since done this. I was.

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Speaker 3: I became a governor in a budget deficit, and guess what.

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Speaker 3: I cut taxes over one hundred times. And guess what happened.

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Speaker 1: But where is all that money going?

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Speaker 4: how much waste there can be. New York City Senator,

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Speaker 3: It's every it's it's it's everything, and so everybody says

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Speaker 3: it's not. If you took if you took Clinton's budget,

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Speaker 3: there's no accountab. There's no accountability. So this is all fixable.

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Speaker 3: But guess what. When I was governor of Florida, there's

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Speaker 3: saying they don't care that inflation is going to get worse.

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Speaker 3: They don't care that intrates are going to go up.

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Speaker 1: Senator, That's what they're.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, all of this is true, and you know

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Speaker 2: basic economic common sense, which is something you can't say

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Speaker 1: This is Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a title. But what we want

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Speaker 2: Talk about the evisceration of left wing arguments that came

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Speaker 5: Yes, this was incredible. I think the legal term is

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Speaker 5: That was not the case today. She wrecked Justice Jackson

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so this was a huge one. Also, it's not enough.

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Speaker 2: This is an incredible series of wins. President Trump has

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Speaker 2: Right decisions, But I guess maybe I've just gotten so

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Speaker 5: I am surprised. Nationwide injunctions is something that the justices

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Speaker 5: May Yeah, this is the swampiest of the swamp thing

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Speaker 5: It's not a real This is purely, as you said,

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Speaker 5: Oh man, they love traditions so much. So I think

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Speaker 5: say the Senate Parliamentarian's ruling saying these things are two

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Speaker 2: to act.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge win.

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Speaker 2: It also implicates in some way the decision about birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 2: which at some point will likely reach the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: Now I know I'm asking you to read tea leaves

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Speaker 2: here because it is not directly addressable, But I said

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Speaker 2: on the show a little bit earlier that it made

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Speaker 2: me think the Supreme Court may be more open to

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Speaker 2: the President's interpretation of the birthright citizenship amendment analysis than

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: Is that a crazy take?

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Speaker 2: Or would you sign on potentially with that take, with

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Speaker 2: the understanding that we're trying to predict something that hasn't

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Speaker 2: yet happened.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think it's a crazy take. I think,

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Speaker 5: on one hand, we knew that the Supreme Court was

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Speaker 5: going to be skittish to address this issue because it

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Speaker 5: is such a big issue, and so that made it

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Speaker 5: a really good vehicle to focus on nationwide injunctions. Right,

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Speaker 5: this is something that the Supreme Court is going to

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Speaker 5: move heaven and earth to just focus on that procedure

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Speaker 5: vehicle and not just say, oh, you know what, let's

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Speaker 5: just dive into the substance and said and forget about

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Speaker 5: the process. So this is something that they would love

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Speaker 5: to avoid thinking about for a little bit. Now, it's

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Speaker 5: a it's difficult because even though birthright citizenship is terrible policy,

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Speaker 5: and the United States is unique in the globe in

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Speaker 5: offering it, other countries don't say, oh, you were here

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Speaker 5: to visit you know, a Disney World equivalent like now

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Speaker 5: you're child's a citizen. That's not a thing anywhere else.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, there are some

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Speaker 5: bad court rulings in the past that have interpreted the

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Speaker 5: Fourteenth Amendment to basically give that. Now, past court rulings

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Speaker 5: that are bad are overturned when they need to be.

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Speaker 5: But it's a big decision. It's a weighty decision. So

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Speaker 5: I think you're right. Actually, maybe if they knew for

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Speaker 5: sure they hated this, they would have just said so.

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Speaker 5: But they seem to want to avoid it. And that

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Speaker 5: avoidance I think either indicates willingness or it indicates true openness,

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Speaker 5: and they're just trying to bide their time to make

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Speaker 5: such a big ruling.

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Speaker 2: May we appreciate it? I got a hot take here.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty pleased with the Supreme Court. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that ever gets said very often. I bet a

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Speaker 2: lot of people in the Trump team are as well.

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Speaker 2: Have a good weekend, Good July fourth. We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck,