WEBVTT - Draft Show: Combine Reunion 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.679 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:11.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. He's the Dallas 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.560 Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for incenter 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.119 news and crafted analysis from deep within the confines of 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:27.440 Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco. And now your 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:34.680 hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeoman, and David Hellman. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.360 Good morning and welcome. It is Tuesday, March the first 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.840 Happy Marti Gras got to throw that in there. Very 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.360 self serving everywhere else, it's just Tuesday. We are not live, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.800 but guys, we are back at the Indianapolis Convention Center. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.480 It's been a long time coming, not just because we're 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.600 back at the NFL Combine here on the Draft Show, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.320 but we are back with our friend Dame Brugler, Draft 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:05.000 Show alum, Draft Show originator. I think a lot of 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.240 people excited to see on the show man. Welcome back. Oh, 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.880 it feels so good. It feels right. You know, we 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.400 didn't get the combine last year, so it feels good 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.160 to be back in Indianapolis. Feels good to be be back 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.720 with you guys. Uh, we got plenty to talk about, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.240 so I'm excited. It is like it's like a warm 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.280 hug took a year off. Everybody feeling a little bit 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.720 better about that first bite into that riverby at Saint Almo's. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.920 I mean, it's yeah, it's it's good. That's good cocktail. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.840 It just clears your sciences of everything that doesn't matter 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.360 except for the draft. I mean, and that's the thing 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.479 is you talk about it's been a year in between, 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.880 but think about how all that has changed in that year. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.960 I mean, last time we were here, we were talking 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.800 to Joe Burrow at the podium, and now Joe Burrow 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.520 has been to a Super Bowl. Crazy. I mean, there's 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.360 a lot of things that have gone on since then. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.600 Last time we were here there was a fresh powdered 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.320 snow on the ground while we were walking around Indianapolis. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.600 It's been like mid forties. So we've gotten lucky in 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.880 that regard this this time around. But things have changed 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.160 over the last couple of years in a number of 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:03.920 different ways. I almost feel like I've been through a 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.520 time warp, like I lived. I lived those two years, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.200 but I've just I'm not convinced that it ever actually happened. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.440 At least you don't want to convince yourself that it happened. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.720 Got so excited about Dane, I forgot to mention I'm 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.799 David Hellman. I think you know that, joined by my 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.639 buddy Kyle Yeoman's Jeff and Brian taking the week off 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.480 because they're slackers. They didn't want to come up to Indianapolis. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.440 They definitely wanted to come up to Indianapo. You're right, well, 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.400 easy money, sending our love to them, but I'm very 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.360 happy to trade them in for Dane. So, Dane, I 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.240 just want to I want to set the stage with 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.120 you that it's kind of an awkward thing. We're at 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.880 the combine. We're excited to be here here on Tuesday morning. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.760 We still haven't actually done a whole lot, you know. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.360 Steven Stephen Jones talked yesterday to Cowboys media. There's some 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.840 Cowboys news that maybe we can get too later. But 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.600 in terms of the draft, no interviews yet, no testing. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.320 So I just I kind of want to set the 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.920 stage with you since we haven't checked in with you 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:02.280 this year about the storylines about maybe the guys that 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.720 have the most to gain, or the narratives that can 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.800 kind of shape this draft class the most. Because I 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.080 do think it's Kyle brought up Joe Burrow. We don't 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.600 have that guy, like, we don't have that guy that 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.919 dominates the draft talk the way we did with Joe 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.160 or with Kyler Murray. I mean, we're basically talking about 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.560 edge rushers and offensive tackles, and so how do you 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.200 how do you think this week might shape that? I 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.720 think the main storyline is exactly that, the fact that 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.519 we don't have that obvious storyline. It's just a very 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.400 different draft. And every draft class has its own identity, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.000 you know, its own It's usually driven by the quarterbacks. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.680 This year, the quarterback after five in the top fifteen 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.280 last year, this quarterback class. You know, it's it's just 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.840 all over the place, and you know, you're looking for 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.040 the high floor guy and Kenny Pikett. You're looking for 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.920 the guy that five years from now hopefully is that 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.640 top fifteen quarterback in the NFL. And like a Malik 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.600 Willis or Matt Corrall. It's hard to have conviction about 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.800 any of these quarterbacks, it really is. And I don't 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:03.520 know that we're going to get any real information here 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.560 that's going to help us. You know, Matt corral the 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.040 one quarterback that wasn't at the Senior Bowl, not working out, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.040 still working his way back from that ankle injury from 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.640 the ball game. So quarterbacks, I'm not sure that this 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.000 week's gonna change all that much based on what we know. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.120 So it's going to remain kind of a tough position 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.040 to sort out. But some other positions will will I 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.240 think it'll be important context here, the receivers, the corners, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.120 the stop watch positions. You know, I want to see 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.839 how some of these pass rushers move, and you know, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.240 so the three cone and short shuttle drills. To me, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.960 I don't know how you guys feel. There's one position that, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.839 above all is the deepest and the best position in 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.800 this draft, and that's pass rusher ed rushers. To me, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.599 it is by far the deepest position. And so you know, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.960 I was doing my pre combined rankings last night, putting 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:53.440 that all together, and I'm going through and I'm like, okay, well, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.919 how many pass rushers in the top one hundred. I 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.040 do my top ten. I'm like, now there's more, all right, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.040 top fifteen, there's more top twenty, And I'm still leaving 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.800 guys out that I'm like, man, he Beach should be 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.440 in the top one hundred so pass rushers this week. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.719 I'm excited to see him see how these guys test. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.440 My guy, Trevon Walker from Georgia, want to see if 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.760 he lives up to the hype I've been putting on 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.760 his name. So it's gonna be a fun week that 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.960 hopefully adds context to these evaluations we've been working on. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.599 I'm glad you brought up edge rusher because having those 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.200 conversations around the draft class and kind of looking at 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.800 these rankings back and forth, it feels like one of 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.680 the only positions that's complete this year because you do 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.640 have that high, top heavy talent pool like a Cavon 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.159 Thibodeau out of Oregon, the Aidan Hutchinson's of the world 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.600 out of Michigan, and then even after that you've got 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.880 late first round guys. You have a complete board off 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.839 of your edge rushers around that it really doesn't feel 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.800 like there's not a whole lot of positions elsewhere because 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.280 you can talk about quarterbacks. You mentioned there's not going 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.200 to be that high end, high profile quarterback at the 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.400 top of this draft. So with all of that being said, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.120 where does this rank from a draft class? Excitement for 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.160 you because I mean, with me, I'm looking at edge rusher, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.560 maybe wide receiver just because it's deep. Again, not really 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.040 the top heavy guys at that position. But I really 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.680 don't get as excited about this draft just based off 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.920 of the fact of the top heavy star power, right, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.640 But there's a lot of ways you can make your 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.680 team better because of how deep it is in a 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.400 couple areas, no doubt. And yeah, this is not relative 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.000 to past years. This is not a great year to 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.680 be picking top fifteen. It's just not a top heavy draft. Now, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.000 you're still gonna get good players there, but relative to 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.280 past years, we're missing those blue chippers at the top. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.640 But that doesn't mean that it's not a good draft. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.919 And so I've heard so many people characterize as a 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.000 bad draft or a down draft, and it's just that's 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.640 just not true because when you see the value, there's 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.080 Pro bowlers in this draft, future Pro bowlers, and you 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.000 just go find them, go go go get them. And 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.440 so yeah, I think pass rusher, I think I think 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.400 your point is valid. Pass rusher at every stage of 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.839 the draft, you feel like it's a it's a good position, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.040 where you can't really say that about every other position. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.080 Wide receiver. To me, there's six receivers in the top 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.760 twenty five this year. But then you know, it takes 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.680 a little bit, there's a little of a lull, you know, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.200 later on corner I really like the corners in the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.880 first round. I think we could see three in the 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.520 top fifteen and then but then there's a little bit 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.080 of a lull before we get to some other levels 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.840 of the cornerback position. So I think, I think what 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.600 you said is fair pass rusher. The only position that 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.560 you point to and say, okay, it's deep at the 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.000 top or strong at the top, deep in the middle, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.920 and then it'll stretch out so you still feel like 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.560 you're getting good players well into day three. Let me 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.720 ask you this, and it's what I find so fascinating 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.520 about this class. And I know, I mean you you 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.200 have your own grades and your own process and your 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.920 own confidence every year. But the recurring talking point on 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.840 this class is like, outside of maybe eight prospects at 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.240 the top right, it's like set your own board, you know, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.840 And is that more fun or more stressful as somebody 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.480 who does this all year round, who wants to be 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.920 as right as possible, This seems like it could be 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.320 a stressful class where you know you gotta stack these tackles. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.800 You got to figure out how you feel about all 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.440 these addreshers in corner. It just seems like we talk 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.320 about this all the time. A guy could go to 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.000 the Cowboys at twenty four that somebody else has graded 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.200 in the top ten or vice versa, Like maybe the 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.400 Cowboys draft a guy at twenty four that everybody else 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.640 is like you picked him in the first round. Like 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.160 it just seems more so than any year. It kind 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.960 of seems like this is a year where everybody is 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:24.440 fending for themselves. Yeah. Absolutely, I think it speaks to 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.240 you have you have to have confidence in what you 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.760 what what you see. You know, there's a reason why 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.360 you gave this player a a second round grade and 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.240 then oh see him in the first round and other 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.880 mocks and things like that, and it's well, okay, well 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.520 why do you have him the second And you have 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.240 to have confidence in what you're doing. Um, there are 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.160 certain players where you know, I think you can come 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.840 around on or like you other people, you you don't 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.480 don't just take what everyone else says. I mean to me, like, 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.960 just from speaking from my experience, I've got you know, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.160 my my short list of people that I trust what 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.199 they say, and I'll take what they say and take 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.520 it to heart and listen and try tore it out. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.760 But yeah, it's just it's just one of those drafts. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.200 And to me that makes it fun because I use 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.959 the baseball analogy all the time. Like, if you expect 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.320 me to hit a thousand percent on you know these players, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.440 you're gonna be disappointed, just like if you expect Mike 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.800 Trout to you know, hit about a thousand. And I'm 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.320 not trying to compare myself to mat Mike Trout in anyway. Hey, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.600 you're the Mic Trout of the draft. I'll take that. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.600 But again, if you're a baseball player and you got 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.400 on base four times out of ten, you're doing a 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.600 heck of a job. And so you know, it's not 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.720 the same quite the same, But you know you're gonna 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.680 miss on some of these guys and that's fine. Um, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.160 but that's what I love about the Draft Guide, or 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.200 you know why, being able to put all my opinions 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.839 out there on hundreds and hundreds of players. Um, you know, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.200 I put a lot of confidence in that, and it 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.880 served me well to this point and I really like 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.000 what you said about there's gonna be a lot of 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.480 prospects in this draft where people are gonna come around 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.000 on them, because I feel like this draft more than others. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.640 I'm looking at my board and I'm like, Okay, I'm 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.959 confid and where I have this guy, But maybe I 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.480 need to go back and watch him again. We were 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.560 talking about a couple of prospects even before we went 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.400 on air, about how, hey, maybe I need to go 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.800 back and watch this guy because somebody else an example, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.960 the sky More wide receiver out of you were gonna 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.319 try and say that you were going to say for 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.720 the third, but let's just get out of the way 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.360 because he's the only player Jeff Kavanaugh wants to talk about. Dude, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.040 he's so let's just put it to everybody for hearing 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.800 for now. What do you think about sky Moore? I 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.880 think he's the heag of a player, um I think, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.760 And he might think he's gonna surprise people that this 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.280 week he's not a burner, but don't be surprised heroes 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.559 in the low four force. Uh like that That's what 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.040 I was told. So, um, I what I love most 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.439 about him, and I think he'll also be one of 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.760 the I love the Gauntlet drill. I think he'll be 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.680 one of the best performers in the Gauntlet drill because 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.600 he's so good with those quick hitters of slants, catching 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.120 the ball away from his body. Um, he's so tough 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.600 squares up the catch point. Um uh there's I mean, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.520 I don't know when you list the reasons not to 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.800 like him, it's like you're kind of like nitpicking more 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.000 so than like a fatal flaw with this guy. So 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.000 I don't think he's a slot only but I do 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.800 think he is projects best in the slot where he 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.840 can do the most damage. So in my opinion, yeah, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.679 I see a top top sixty, top seventy five guy 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.840 in this drafting. He's my ninth receiver in my rankings. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.720 So that makes me feel a little bit better because 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.199 I was talking to Dave earlier and I said I 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.560 had him seventeen, which is really low. Like I'm looking 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.439 at some of these guys in front of him that 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.080 I really like more than him. But you're talking about 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.079 fatal flaw. I agree with you. I don't have a 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.079 fatal flaw with him. And if I'm nitpicking at his 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.520 cons like you said, I thought he was a slot 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.679 only guy, and he may be moving forward, but if 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.000 he's able to show some versatility and if he runs 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.440 in the four fours, that could potentially change my thought 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.760 process too, because at least looking at him, he plays fast, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.760 he doesn't play exceptionally fast, and if he comes out 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.080 and runs in the low four fours, then I might 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.280 have something there to look at. Something we always talk 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.679 about these players is understanding their journey where they came from. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.040 He wasn't a receiver in high school. Here's a quarterback 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.160 and cornerback, so you know there was an adjustment period 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.920 for him, and that I feel. I still think there's 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.959 upside there. I still think he's learning how to be 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.400 a more polished receiver and he's gonna get better and better. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.800 So um yeah, I think with sky Moore, you feel 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.760 really good about the player you have now, but you 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.079 feel even better about what he's going to be two years, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.319 three years from now. And as long as we're at this, 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.480 let me tell you something about my buddy Jeff Kavanaugh. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.959 Like when when he gets excited about something, you know, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.640 caution goes out, Caution goes to the wind. That's why 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.839 we waited until Jeff's not on the show. Yeah, and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:40.440 then we have Dane Brooke, I think to talk to this. Yeah, Dane, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.679 Dane Will Dane shot him down and pretty quicker. You 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.640 shot Jeff down. You kind of killed his dream. I 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.199 give Jeff credit because he when he sees a guy 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.520 he likes, he's not afraid, he buys in and he 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.520 honestly I would rather make Jeff stand on the table 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.880 and be wrong or rather than Dan. I think Dane 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.559 gave a very similar scouting report as Jeff. Dane is 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.880 just a rational human being, whereas Jeff is just all 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.960 excitement all the time. Right, You're exactly right. I wanted 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.439 to hit on this too because and I'm curious, I'm 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.839 not I'm I'm asking this more than stating it. It 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.360 feels to me like the testing pool is going to 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.520 be a little bit disappointing here, just in the sense, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.400 you know, at the top of my mind, obviously because 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.679 of who I am as a person. Derek Stingley is 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.120 not going to work out this week. Um, I saw it. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.000 You mentioned Drake London might not work out. It seems 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.319 like we're going to be missing some sex appeal and 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.840 Evan Neil I believe isn't going to do anything at 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.319 this combine, right, So top tackle for a lot of 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.839 a lot of people. Do you do you feel like 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.120 it's less than most years or am I exaggerating? I 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.360 think it happens every year where and most of these 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.439 guys are injurily. If Derek Stingley working his way back 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.440 from the foot injury, not quite ready, Drake London working 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.600 his way back from injury, not quite ready. Jeremy Ruckert 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.960 Ohio State tight end foot injury at the Senior Bowl, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.280 not quite ready. So we have that every year. Um 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.400 with this year, I think we still will have some 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.800 like the wide receivers and corners. I think we're gonna 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.640 have a lot of a lot of guys test really well. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.240 Chris Olive from Ohio State. I don't think people understand 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.599 how fast this guy is. Uh ten eight guy in 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.360 high school in one hundred meters, He's gonna blaze. Um, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.600 you know, I think Baylor, Baylor brought a track team. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.960 It's crazy with Baylor the athletes they have most some 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.200 of them are on the defensive side of the football 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.120 as well. With Barns the corner, He's he's my vote 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.120 for the fastest forty this week. Should be in the 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.280 four threes. Wow, maybe gets lower than that. Even um JT. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.520 Woods the safety. He can fly a very fast linear athlete, 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.560 So those guys will test really well. Treill Bernard the 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.560 linebacker from Baylor. Taekwon Thornton the wide receiver, so Baylor 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.520 mentioned Jalen Petrie in there as well. Yeah, and I 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.960 hope he runs well. I don't know they's gonna run well. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.600 I don't think that that's necessarily his strength as a player, 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.360 But I think he'll be okay. I think he'll do 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.640 well for himself. And he's to me he's in the 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 top fifty mix as one of the better safeties this year. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.080 But you know, I don't I don't know that it's 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.440 necessarily that much different than past years. I think that 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.880 you with no Evan Neil, it's an opportunity for Ricky 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.040 stay Tackle to say, hey, this is why I belong 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.560 number one. I put him at number one of my 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.760 mock draft, and wow, uh hey, I don't obviously the 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.480 Jaguars and I don't think they have any idea who 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.960 they're taking number one, but uh, you know, it's a 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.880 chance this week to show what he can do in 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.000 this show that he's, you know, not just one of 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.040 the top players, he is a top player. It's ironic 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.760 because drafting Jamar Chase clearly worked out for the Bengal 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.240 But the Jags situation at one reminds me of the 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.040 Bengals last year, where I'm like, just just draft to tackle, please, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.920 please protect, please protect that long haired quarterback taking any 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.400 more damage. It's exactly right you want to find. And 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.360 that's one of the things I want to talk to 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.880 Dan about too, is where you have those tackles ranked. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.320 You talked about a quantu, but we've talked about Charles 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.240 Cross at Neil Cross being from Mississippi State, Neil of 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.080 course from Alabama. But then you've got a quantu who 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.160 really seems like he's jumping up draft boards as just 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.600 I've heard the word nasty thrown around with him, and 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.520 his tape certainly stands up to the billing there as well. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.120 But is that where you see kind of what we 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.440 were talking about with edge rusher early, those top heavy 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.840 players that could certainly make an immediate impact at the 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.120 top of this draft, maybe in those top fifteen players. Yeah, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.240 and with a quantu, he's just He's so explosive at 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.640 contact in the run game, it's really a sight to behold. Um, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.760 and he's a better athlete. Thank people give him credit 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.120 for Uh in a lot. I mean, he's never been 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.160 called small in his life, but in a lot of ways, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.040 he's kind of a smaller McKay Beckton with the way 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.960 he moves out there. And uh, you know, I wrote 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.920 my report how you watch his tape and and there's 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.720 more pancakes than iham. I mean, it's just he he 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.280 finishes to the ground and he does not apologize for it. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.520 And that's the type of guy you want to coach. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.040 And I think he's got the most refined player in 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.520 the world. No, but he he showed this year, at 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.760 least in my mind, he proved he could play tackle. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.360 He could stay on the outside, but he could also 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.879 move inside play guard. So when you have his combination 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.159 of all the traits that he offers, with the explosiveness, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.800 the power, and the fact that you think he's only 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.680 going to get better as he develops it and gets 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.680 more experience, I'm all in on a quando. I like 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.600 to think if you're not if you're not aware, Dane 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.680 is going to spend this entire week doing draft interviews. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.119 Probably I just imagine you standing in your mirror at 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.119 home working on your draft analogies more pancakes than I 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.080 bringing a track team to the comment sitting here, coming 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.800 ready with the word play, and I'm not gonna lie. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.840 I'm gonna probably use that on the blitz or something 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.280 down the road. That's the finest form of flattery, my friend, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.880 real quick before we take this break. That So, from 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.200 what I'm hearing from you, and especially without without a 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.600 quarterback who is, it's probably not going to change a 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.600 whole lot with what happens with them this week. From 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.440 what I'm hearing with you is it sounds like there's 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.840 anywhere from like ten to fifteen guys that could really 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.400 jump onto the radar in terms of like big time 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.080 first round prospects when this week is over. Whether it's 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.720 an Aquanu jumping up as as a favor to be 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.520 number one, or whether it's a cornerback or a receiver 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.840 who maybe we're not talking about as much as we 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.840 should kind of. Alave is a perfect example, Like this 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.960 whole time, we've been talking about him as like a 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.880 fringe first round guy. If he does the right stuff 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.520 this week, he could completely change that narrative. You think 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.919 that's fair to say. I think the way we need 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.959 to look at this draft is there's gonna be very 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.119 little consensus, and so like in our minds, you know, 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.440 because I'm with you, I'm I'm seeing Olave as a 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.719 late more of a late one. Don't be surprised if 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.720 a team thinks he's one of the best receivers in 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.400 this draft and would take him top you know fifteen. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.760 You know, I just when you They're just not going 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.359 to be very much consensus, and so I think, you know, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.359 we have to have an open mind, all the viewers 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.200