WEBVTT - 072024 Why Do Black Kids Sit Together at Lunch? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you back to another episode of Civic Cipher, where

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<v Speaker 1>our mission is to foster allyship, empathy and understanding. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, ramses.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, he is Ramsey's jah, I am q Ward. You

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<v Speaker 2>are tuned in the Civic Cipher and bid you are

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<v Speaker 2>and listen. We know that there was an assassination attempt

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<v Speaker 2>on the former president. We know that he has picked

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<v Speaker 2>a VP. We know, we know, we know. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear our thoughts on this, our takes on it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have done quite a number of things for the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Information Network, and we've shared a lot on our

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<v Speaker 2>social media. Today, however, we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about some things that we've been wanting to get to

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<v Speaker 2>for this show. The first one, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>answer the question why are all the black kids sitting

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<v Speaker 2>together at the lunch table right. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation about culture, conversation about race, and a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about the difference and how you can find yourself welcome

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<v Speaker 2>at that lunch table. For the second part of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to be talking about what it means

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<v Speaker 2>to be blinded by privilege. This is another thing that

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<v Speaker 2>folks have a tough time with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like this statement, can't see the forest

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<v Speaker 1>from the trees, you can't see the picture from inside

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<v Speaker 1>the frame, that sort of thing. So we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to break down those two things, especially because just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of conceptual topics, these are things that we've needed

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<v Speaker 1>to get to. So my hope is that the show

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound dated because again we've addressed some of the

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<v Speaker 1>goings on in media, but this is something that we've

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get to because we feel like that is

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<v Speaker 1>more consistent with the premise of this show right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get there, as always, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>Stories like hers are important for so many obvious reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>should aspire to get there one day themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. That's such a fantastic story. Okay, why

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<v Speaker 1>are all the black kids sitting together at the lunch table?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is just how we're broaching this subject.

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<v Speaker 1>But this could be a number This could be asked

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<v Speaker 1>a number of ways. Why are all the black kids

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the back of the bus laughing? Why are

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<v Speaker 1>all the Hispanic kids congregating at the handball courts every

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<v Speaker 1>day at lunchtime? This is like high school mentality? Or

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<v Speaker 1>why are all the the black employees? Why do they

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<v Speaker 1>all take their their breaks in the parking lot at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time every day? This sorts of thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And my understanding, you know, having lived in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>is that when a non black person sees black people congregating,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than seeing that as a celebration of culture, as

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<v Speaker 1>letting their hair down in a place that's familiar around

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<v Speaker 1>people in audience that is familiar, it feels like that

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<v Speaker 1>group is somehow intentionally excluding them. The observer right. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing holds true with you know, when you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic people and they're talking in Spanish or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or in.

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<v Speaker 2>More straightforward examples HBCUs. That's a great Black fraternities and sororities.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Fearless Fund that was set up to

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<v Speaker 2>provide funding for minority women entrepreneurs or founders, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things, Black Student Union, the NAACP, we can go on.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these organizations created out of the necessity for

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<v Speaker 2>there to be a safe place for excluded groups, and

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<v Speaker 2>that WE has somehow been flipped to be an exclusionary

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<v Speaker 2>term itself instead of the self reaffirming inclusive WE. So

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<v Speaker 2>those all those organizations that we just named, when they

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<v Speaker 2>say we, they mean that very inclusively for people who

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<v Speaker 2>are otherwise excluded from every other space that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, and I respect that for non black people

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at black people congregating in the lunch room.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the example that we're going to go with.

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<v Speaker 1>Most everyone's had that experience at high school. You see

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<v Speaker 1>all the black kids sitting at the lunch table, and

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<v Speaker 1>they sit there every day and they laugh, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you're not in on the joke, right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, am I a part of am I what

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<v Speaker 1>they're laughing at? You feel like, how come I can't

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<v Speaker 1>sit there? Why does that feel so exclusive? These people

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<v Speaker 1>are excluding me? Right? And this is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that you know, you might you the listener

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<v Speaker 1>might not have had that direct interpretation of your experience,

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<v Speaker 1>but you understand that some people may have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when your lived experience has provided you with inclusion

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<v Speaker 2>at every step, when you step into a space that

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<v Speaker 2>seems to exclude you, you feel it in a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very pronounced way. They're used to walking in a space

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<v Speaker 2>or into a room that is not curated specifically for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, keep going? How dare they keep going?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the type of feeling that I think people get,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we'll touch on that actually in the

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<v Speaker 2>second segment of our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, absolutely so. I wanted to paint that picture

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<v Speaker 1>for you because I feel like it's important to dissect this.

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<v Speaker 1>Those small groups congregating and they look the same or similar,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, oftentimes those groups are a segment of

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<v Speaker 1>the culture that exists on a given campus or in

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<v Speaker 1>a given environment. Right, it might be work, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be school, it might be whatever. But what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily race. You're seeing culture, right. Culture is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you can celebrate, and culture and race often

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<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand because you tend to have the

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<v Speaker 1>same culture as people who look like you. That's a tendency.

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<v Speaker 1>But these two things are very different. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>you come to respect and understand and maybe even celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>a culture, that is the degree to which you might

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself welcomed. And not because someone has to welcome you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you generally don't feel as tense walking past the

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<v Speaker 1>group every day, right, you might feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more welcome than that circle, in the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>if you learned Spanish and you overheard some people speaking Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>it might not feel as scary because you know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying. Indeed, you might not feel like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>are they talking about it? And if they are, you

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to pick up on you, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can read between the lines instead of just defaulting to

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<v Speaker 1>fear and anger.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, as an English speaking American, I've had that

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<v Speaker 2>bit of being used to walking in spaces where everybody

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<v Speaker 2>speaks English and there's an entitlement that comes with that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then walking into spaces where there is a group

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<v Speaker 2>speaking the language most comfortable for them. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard Americans get mad at people speaking their

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<v Speaker 2>native language and their presence. And I flipped this scenario

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<v Speaker 2>every time I hear it. If you were in a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign land where your language was not the language of

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<v Speaker 2>the native speakers, and you heard someone speaking English, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how excited you would be, And imagine it's someone you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are going to engage in a excited, exuberant

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<v Speaker 2>conversation in your native tongue because not only is it

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<v Speaker 2>most natural to you, but the relief finally I can

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<v Speaker 2>speak and freely without having to translate in my own

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<v Speaker 2>mind this language that is not native to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, my children, as some of our listeners know,

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<v Speaker 2>are Black and Mexican. My son's first language is English,

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter's first language is Spanish. So I have that dichotomy.

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<v Speaker 1>In my own home.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are times when they have family over and

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what's being said, and I've had

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<v Speaker 2>that moment of wondering, was that conversation and that laughter

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<v Speaker 2>all about me? Which is kind of a crazy way

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<v Speaker 2>to process things, but it comes from then almost entitlement

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<v Speaker 2>and being used to always being included, even in something

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as a conversation in a language that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't speak.

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<v Speaker 1>See and and I think that's really important is because

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<v Speaker 1>understanding where your default setting is, Understanding that did I

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<v Speaker 1>go to fear? Did I go to concern? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>ready assumption that they are talking bad about me, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're laughing at me, is the ready assumption that I

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<v Speaker 1>am somehow being intentionally excluded from this conversation. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a great point to catch yourself and then rework your

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<v Speaker 1>mental framework around your predicament, because the truth of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is you pointed out a great example. Que imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being in another country where everyone around you is speaking

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say Vietnam. I've been to Vietnam, so I love Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful place. It is a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 2>The way when trying to go back, let me know,

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<v Speaker 2>Southeast Asia is wow.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, if I'm walking around in the mall

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<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam, I'm hearing Vietnamese everywhere. The moment I hear English,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be in a commercial, it can be just

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation across the way. My ears perk up right

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<v Speaker 1>and there's someone that I can talk to, and we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll learn a little bit later that that language is

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of culture. Right, I'm going to use

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<v Speaker 1>the word that. I don't know if this is the

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<v Speaker 1>right way to say this, and I've had a back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth relationship with this word, but we will say

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be called ebonics. More recently it's called

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<v Speaker 1>African American vernacular English AAVE, basically black talk. Don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>say that I can say that I'm black. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever say that. You can say it, I can say it,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't say that. But that's like a language unto ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, there's an unfortunate thing happening with regards to quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote our langue whiche. It's becoming homogenized because of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>because of social media, people who are not a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the culture speak like they are. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to an article on a podcast that I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to Shout to Shout Out to Bomani Jones where they

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<v Speaker 2>were speaking about how once upon a time, you knew

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<v Speaker 2>where you were with the person based on that shared vernacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And now a middle aged white person might use some

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<v Speaker 2>teenage black people vernacular because they saw it on their

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<v Speaker 2>social media and they've co opted it. And now you

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea when speaking to someone, if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>interact with them that we are not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way that's most comfortable. I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, and I'm glad you brought that up, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the homogenization of what we would consent like it is

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<v Speaker 1>a distinct language. Right now, you're hearing me speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you in the King's English, right, this is a language

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<v Speaker 1>that I won't say I've mastered, but I have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid command of the English language. If you heard

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<v Speaker 1>me and Q talking with these mics off and there

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<v Speaker 1>were these cameras was off and there was no lights,

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<v Speaker 1>we sound like we're speaking the way we normally speak. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Q is from Detroit, Michigan. RAS is from Compton, California.

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<v Speaker 2>So make no mistake. You could imagine, yeah, Nobe, you're

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<v Speaker 2>using our same.

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<v Speaker 1>Voices, but the words that we use, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit more relaxed, right. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>true when I'm around my family. This is true when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm around people where the steaks aren't high, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one to judge me. These people come from where

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<v Speaker 1>I come from. If I ate expired oatmeal, they ate

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<v Speaker 1>it too, you know what I mean. If I got

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<v Speaker 1>food stamps, they got it too. There's no there's no

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<v Speaker 1>big eyes in little US, right. So now we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to delineate culture, right and again being in a space

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that you're comfortable with, where you can speak

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<v Speaker 1>your own language, and it's it's a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>to follow when we talk about we're in the southwest

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, so we're close to Mexico down here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's very easy for us to use Mexican people

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<v Speaker 1>who speak Spanish as the example here because we've grown

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<v Speaker 1>up around well I've certainly grown up around Mexican people,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a significant population of Mexican books in in

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit as well, and Middle Eastern people in Detroit as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one time for south West Detroit, one time

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<v Speaker 2>for dearborn Michigan. There you go shout out to Michaldean friends,

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<v Speaker 2>my Palestinian friends all day, and of course my Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>family there you go to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Look all there, right, So have this come up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna share a bit from you, a bit from

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<v Speaker 1>Cora I know, don't jump down my throat, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just came across this and I thought it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>how this came about, So I'm gonna share just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit the question says, I saw black students sitting separately

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<v Speaker 1>from white students and dining halls of the University of Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that? Do blacks feel ill at ease near whites?

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a respec from a gentleman named brother Nikosi. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who this is, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the kids are stopped conversation going, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to necessarily take these words. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting our conversation here. Brother Nikosi says, I was

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<v Speaker 1>also visiting that day at the university, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed was that all the white kids were sitting separate

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<v Speaker 1>and apart from the black kids. Kids feel ill at

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<v Speaker 1>ease around blacks. Historically, there is a group that has

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<v Speaker 1>told another group that they could only sit in one

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<v Speaker 1>area of the bus, not eat in the same restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>use the same bathroom, etc. Do black people have a

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<v Speaker 1>history of that. It might have been a nice gesture,

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<v Speaker 1>considering that history for the white kids to come over

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<v Speaker 1>and then invite the black kids to sit with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously it's being funny and kind of turning the

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<v Speaker 1>situation on its head. Also, graciously understand if the black

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<v Speaker 1>kids declined, because if those white kids had learned anything

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<v Speaker 1>about black history while they were in high school, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have come to the same conclusion that many black

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<v Speaker 1>people have that racial healing is a process, not an event.

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<v Speaker 1>So to answer your question, given the historical relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>current climate, maybe they did feel a little ill at ease.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, lastly, to be of most benefit for you,

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<v Speaker 1>the question has to come has to become why did

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<v Speaker 1>you feel the onus of mingling was on them under

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<v Speaker 1>the circumstances. If you can be honest with yourself as

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<v Speaker 1>to the framing of this question, you will have moved

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<v Speaker 1>forward as a person. So that's a couple of ways

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<v Speaker 1>to process a situation like that, not mad in any

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<v Speaker 1>of those. And again we're providing thought experiments just so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can again grow as a person. But also

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<v Speaker 1>our hope is that we're empowering people who can empower

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<v Speaker 1>other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love his proposition of critical thinking there. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't shoot this person down. He just raised some very

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<v Speaker 2>straightforward questions as to the reframing of the question itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but not just the words on the paper or the

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<v Speaker 2>words in that forum, the thoughts that led to that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did your mind it that way? And here are

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<v Speaker 1>some reasons. Who's responsible, who's responsible for why why it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like this, and who's responsible for.

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<v Speaker 2>Fixing who should actually be accountable with here?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Right? And and that's a great place to start,

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<v Speaker 1>because now we're going to talk indeed about culture and

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<v Speaker 1>race and the difference. So for us we understand, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be very careful when I say this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Yeah, I'll say it this way. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if in all of the years that I've been alive,

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<v Speaker 1>if I have ever been at an event or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that to celebrate my race. But I have, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know this full well, been to several events places,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera to celebrate my culture. Right, So race and

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<v Speaker 1>culture are two different things, right, because I so, how

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<v Speaker 1>about this culture? Culture is black? American race is black? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there are black people who are in Brazil, and black

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<v Speaker 1>people of course in Africa, black people in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>black people in Southeast Asia. I have nothing in common

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<v Speaker 1>with them. I don't speak the language. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>too much or nothing about what they got going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that we have in common is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we share a significant amount of melanin in

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<v Speaker 1>our skin.

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<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing about race as a social construct is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's lacking in so many ways of the connective

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<v Speaker 2>tissue that people think they are assigning when they say

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<v Speaker 2>all of those people are black. Denzel Washington made an

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<v Speaker 2>example when I asked about, you know, race versus culture

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<v Speaker 2>or color versus culture, and the example that he used

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<v Speaker 2>was the sound of a straightening calm going through You're

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<v Speaker 2>the hair of a child where he grew up. That

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<v Speaker 2>is not a race thing. That is a culture there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just one example. But I remember that's sticking out.

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<v Speaker 2>That is perfect so poignantly, like Yo, everyone I know

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<v Speaker 2>knows what that sound. Then I get this conversation. However,

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<v Speaker 2>RAMS just knew exactly where it was. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>give my hair straighten. My sisters take care of my.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair for me. You know, for those that have seen

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<v Speaker 1>my face, you know that I have a big afro

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<v Speaker 1>that I wear. My sisters care for my hair. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my my friend's moms care for my hair, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And this is the part of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And they know that smell, and I know that smell,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know this sound. And I'm old school, so

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the hot comb used to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>on this stuff, set it on the stove. Yeah, sto,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it is. Yeah. So let me obviously we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about our lived experience, but let me share with you

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<v Speaker 1>some like real definitions that you can take with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So culture, the first definition says the arts and other

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<v Speaker 1>manifestations of human intellectual achievement, regarded collectively. An example is

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century pop culture. The second definition says the customs, arts,

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<v Speaker 1>social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or

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<v Speaker 1>other social group. An example is Caribbean culture. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at race. The first definition says, and the

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<v Speaker 1>only will that we'll share each of the major groupings

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<v Speaker 1>into which humankind is considered in various theories or context

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<v Speaker 1>to be divided on the basis of physical characteristics or

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<v Speaker 1>shared ancestry. Right, so, those are two different things. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you may be seeing when you see a small

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<v Speaker 1>group of people who all look the same, sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner of the cafeteria or some equivalent. In your

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<v Speaker 1>journey is you are seeing a celebration of these people

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<v Speaker 1>partaking in enriching, in developing, withdrawing from exchanging with others

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<v Speaker 1>who share indeed their culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And you might even see some people that don't share

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<v Speaker 2>physical similarity, absolutely that absolutely experienced the same cultural, lived experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, there's twentieth century pop culture, right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the pop club after school, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a lot of different people, right. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's often easy to find folks that share your language.

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<v Speaker 1>You know your upbringing and they know the smell of

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<v Speaker 1>a hot comb, and so don't fill off put by it,

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<v Speaker 1>learn in and grow