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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollie here with Matt Williamson and.

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Speaker 4: The Rob King. I don't think I like that trend

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Speaker 4: them fighting words. Luckily I'm seated between you guys. You're

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Speaker 4: gonna fight me though, right, I didn't do anything.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Things were cope setic before you showed up. All right,

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Speaker 2: I'm here with the Matt Williamson and Rob King. I

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Speaker 2: have to use to There's only one Dale Lollie, f

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Speaker 2: Dale Lollie, because there aren't many Lolli's around. No King, however,

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Speaker 2: is a semi popular name. Williamson is a really popular name.

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Speaker 2: Nic said, you'd.

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Speaker 6: Think I got a lot of Matt Williams over the

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Speaker 6: years by accident or lack of caring by others.

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Speaker 3: No, Mike Williamson's or that's my son. I get a

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Speaker 3: lot of Dave's. I get a lot Dave Lolli's.

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Speaker 5: If if he had a band, it would be Dale

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Speaker 5: and the Lolligaggers.

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Speaker 3: That's my Yeah, the Lollygaggers is my fantasy football. Oh

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Speaker 3: it has to be the Lolly Poppers was my fantasy baseball.

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Speaker 5: Uh huh oh very good, not bad, that's very good.

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Speaker 2: Getting right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting some more rain here for the Steelers. However,

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Speaker 3: the practice window could not have been better.

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Speaker 5: To get incredible.

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Speaker 2: They nailed it.

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Speaker 3: It rained prior to practice like crazy. It didn't rain

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Speaker 3: at all during practice. Effect the sun came out and

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Speaker 3: now it's raining again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I drove the whole way here in really bad rains.

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Speaker 6: Ye flow, I mean took forever. I almost texted you

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Speaker 6: Dale about fifteen minutes out go and are they gonna

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Speaker 6: practice on the field when we're we doing that?

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Speaker 2: I kept checking my phone. Yeah, this morning I was.

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Speaker 3: I was home yesterday as well, so this morning I

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Speaker 3: got up and drove outy Or and so I kept

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Speaker 3: checking my phone this morning looking for, you know, an

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Speaker 3: update from Steelers pr that you know, practices has been

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Speaker 3: moved back or practice has been moved somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 3: And as it turned out, the sun shone on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers today because they were in pads. You know, I think, uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe being here at Saint Vincent College had a little

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Speaker 3: divine intervention very nice and that it was pooring so

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Speaker 3: they hit just just.

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Speaker 5: Right sideways rain windy.

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Speaker 6: That's all right. So really good practice today, though much different, feel,

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Speaker 6: much different feel.

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Speaker 3: We get to see some physicality with we had backs

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Speaker 3: on backers, we had one on one drills to the

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Speaker 3: offensive and defensive line inside run stuff and uh.

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Speaker 2: One on ones with receivers and corners. Seven shots.

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Speaker 3: That different because they came out running in seven shots

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Speaker 3: and nausea. Harris scoring a couple of touchdowns in the

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Speaker 3: seven shots period.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they did the four or.

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Speaker 6: Five plays sorry interrupted, four or five plays where there

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Speaker 6: was like seven defenders tackling the football.

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Speaker 2: I mean just ganged. Yeah. I don't think most training

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Speaker 2: camps were doing that still in July.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if any training Caps camps are doing

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Speaker 2: It's very rare. It's really it's really foreign.

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Speaker 3: And uh, our our intrepid producer here, Wesley Yuler is

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Speaker 3: waiting to go for food, and uh, it's a pretty

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Speaker 3: good haul too. Yeah, it's not not a short walk.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, Wes, do you have an umbrella?

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Speaker 6: I think there's one sitting on the fridge that you

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Speaker 6: could borrow. There's one where somebody took it.

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Speaker 2: There's one in my bag there if you'd like to

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Speaker 2: grab one. But wes, oh look at this. Oh I

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Speaker 2: get the Rob King though, Rob King coming in big.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 5: Remember I got to protect my hair going about to

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Speaker 5: the car West.

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Speaker 6: I forgot how pretty you have to sale with that

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Speaker 5: I gotta gotta keep that hair cofft.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the physicality was was there.

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Speaker 3: The offense once again wins seven shots, and I thought

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Speaker 3: it was interesting. Once again, it's three three going into

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Speaker 3: the final portion of it. Mike Tomin keeps track of this,

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Speaker 3: puts it pits the offense against the defense. He brings

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Speaker 3: Bob Bob Labriola as we're watching. So I came up

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Speaker 3: and watched practice today in the press box because it

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Speaker 3: and watching this. In laps goes he bring they bring fields,

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Speaker 3: but he goes, this is going to be a read option.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna tuck it. He's keeping it, and then he's

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Speaker 3: keeping it and it's exactly what happened. He goes around

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Speaker 3: right in for a touchdown. He did have a nice

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Speaker 3: over Joey Porter.

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Speaker 2: Perfectly thrown pass on that one.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was a really interesting play because I

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Speaker 6: think they had a lot of heavy personnel. I think

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Speaker 6: it was thirteen. I think there was three tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was split wide and then and the Harris was

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Speaker 3: out wide and then they condensed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you just saw, I mean everyone on

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Speaker 6: the planet could see it was a corner and Pickings

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Speaker 6: all alone. There's no way on a fade ball that

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 6: Really nice play by George one handed. I mean I

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Speaker 6: refer to this all the time, but it reminded me

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Speaker 6: of my pit days. I mean, there's number one in

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Speaker 6: the end zone. Just chuck it up the larry, see

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Speaker 6: what happens. You know, you can see that one coming

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Speaker 6: all the way.

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Speaker 5: And I believe that was Joey Porter Junior in coverage.

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Speaker 5: He was cool to his hip, so it was a

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Speaker 5: perfect throw in a one hand.

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Speaker 3: Grad pick and screened him off with his left arm

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Speaker 3: and reached up with his right and grabbed his feet

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Speaker 3: down control he does so well yeah, so uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's something to make note of real quick though.

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Speaker 6: I mean I'm not suggesting in any way, shape or

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Speaker 6: form that they should pull Russell Wilson out in short

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Speaker 6: yardage or especially near the goal line, because he's really

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Speaker 6: really good in the red zone historically.

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Speaker 2: But boy, that that fields by the goal line thing

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Speaker 2: is almost impossible to stop. Yeah, I mean once he

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Speaker 2: once he gets in the corner, it's done.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's gonna be less interesting.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Ray umbrella, wasn't wasn't enough?

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Speaker 5: Not good enough?

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Speaker 2: I have a piece of pineapple or something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it is going to be one of

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Speaker 5: the interesting side notes in camp. Look, you know there's

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Speaker 5: I think national people want to talk. Is it Russell Wilson?

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Speaker 5: Is it justin Fields? I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 5: in that Russell Wilson now, but will you use justin fields?

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Speaker 5: And can you use him in different ways? You know,

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Speaker 5: I think we've talked about this a little bit. Guys.

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Speaker 5: I would watch Saints games.

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Speaker 2: And because they're not the Saints, yeah you were.

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Speaker 5: You're bringing a Hall of Fame quarterback off the field

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Speaker 5: for basically a glorified tight end, right right? And Taysom Yeah,

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Speaker 5: is that really what you want to do? And is

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Speaker 5: that going to disrupt the rhythm of the offense. I

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Speaker 5: think there's a real case to be made that that

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Speaker 5: disrupts the rhythm of the of the offense.

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Speaker 3: So when they played the Steelers in twenty eighteen down

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Speaker 3: in New Orleans, they did that, and then they had

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Speaker 3: Taysom Hill throw a deep ball and of course it

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Speaker 3: was intercepted. And I'm like, why are you taking your

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame quarterback off the field to have this

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Speaker 3: guy come in and throw an interception seeep like forty

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Speaker 6: I have two perspectives on that, to be honest with you, like,

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Speaker 6: why on earth are we taking the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: Period? Ever? Ever, who why does that make any sense whatsoever?

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Speaker 6: However, if you're the defense and you have to prepare

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Speaker 6: for the Saints that week, yea, you that's fifteen percent

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Speaker 6: of practice you have to deal with. You know that

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Speaker 6: prep time is there's not as much as people think.

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Speaker 6: And to really nerd out, when Sean Payton and Hill

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Speaker 6: like six point two yards of carriage per play, not

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Speaker 6: per carry.

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Speaker 2: But Justin Fields is a better player and he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be that.

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Speaker 6: He's a complete more pass I I mean, we talked

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Speaker 3: When they made the trade for him, you know, I

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Speaker 3: said I would have a package for him. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that it would necessarily be a goal line package,

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Speaker 3: but it might be a short yardage like third and one,

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Speaker 3: third and two, stuff like that that I would use

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Speaker 2: I would even consider.

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Speaker 6: Hey, the fourth kickoff you get is a field series,

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Speaker 6: you know, just so you put it on tape and

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Speaker 6: it's hard to deal with. How does I mean Wilson

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Speaker 6: seems like a great guy and you know, but it's

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Speaker 6: you gotta check or you go to the door a

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Speaker 6: little with that stuff too. As a quarterback like Peyton

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Speaker 3: For that, you know, So I don't I don't want

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Speaker 3: to do it like in some ways, I would like

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Speaker 3: to do it like the Ravens did with Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: his rookie season. What I don't want to see, however,

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Speaker 3: is Russell Wilson splitting out.

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Speaker 6: Why that's the thing that made me crazy with the

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Speaker 6: raven Blacko just stands there, No, you're not gonna split

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Speaker 6: You're not gonna split Jackson out wide, So why give

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Speaker 2: You're playing ten on right, you're playing ten on eleven

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Speaker 2: because you know you're not.

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Speaker 6: He's not doing anything. So but you'd love to get

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Speaker 6: fields a jersey dirty too. Yeah, you know, it will

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Speaker 5: So I think that I would be concerned about disrupting

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Speaker 5: the flow of the offense. And I understand what you're

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Speaker 5: saying with Taysom Hill and getting six yards per carry.

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Speaker 5: I suppose it would be good to see, you know,

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Speaker 5: what happened in the next series for Drew Brees. You know,

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Speaker 5: so anytime we parse up numbers, there's always it always,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like a hydra, like you whack off

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Speaker 5: one set of numbers and another pops up, two more

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Speaker 5: know the answers to it. Sometimes I don't think you

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Speaker 5: you can know the answers to certain things, like for example,

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Speaker 5: just to use a baseball example, because I know Dane

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Speaker 5: is a baseball fan. You know, if you've got a

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Speaker 5: guy on they say, hey, if you can't be successful,

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Speaker 5: and they've got a parse out, eighty two percent of

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Speaker 5: the time, it doesn't make sense to try to steal

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Speaker 5: a base. Well, what about the pressure puts on the defense?

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Speaker 5: Are they rushing balls now? If guys are running, is

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Speaker 5: there is a catch the right? Is a catcher calling

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Speaker 5: more fastballs? Is the pitcher now stressed out? Is he

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Speaker 5: gonna lose his focus and his command? All those things

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Speaker 5: are I think hard to you know, constitute numerically and

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Speaker 7: The wildcat. The wildcats are running back. But the difference

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Speaker 7: I believe, and I think we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 7: You're at the forty one yard line. Let's get this

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Speaker 7: Let's let's get some rhythm established. But I think that's

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Speaker 5: This game doesn't have the field that I like justin

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Speaker 5: opposed to scripting it. But I don't know it's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: I think it's one of the intriguing things in camp.

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Speaker 2: You know, there there is you can give up something. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Not that Russell Wilson can't run himself, sure, but not

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Speaker 3: like that. We did get to see Russell Wilson a

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Speaker 2: I think largely because the field was wet. That makes sense.

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Speaker 6: But he didn't do any of the stuff where there

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Speaker 2: You know. He did one play, one play, one play

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got another statistical question for you now that

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Speaker 5: we're talking about running. I wonder if you could break

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Speaker 5: because Russell Wilson runs for a lot of first downs

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Speaker 3: I think Aaron Rodgers in his prime and oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: You know, I could find the numbers of what percentage

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Speaker 6: that's out there for running backs and quarterbacks. Right about Rogers,

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Speaker 6: Like if you played man coverage on him against third

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Speaker 2: Nobody gets to hit him, right, you know, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, Wilson's gonna do plenty of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson. Wilson can do that as well. I think

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Speaker 3: he's very adept at that. And yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 3: they've been searching for really since Ben in his prime.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he could do those kind of things for

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Speaker 6: And I want to get back to practice instead of,

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Speaker 6: you know, thinking about what they could do with fields.

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Speaker 6: But I've been thinking about this for a while too.

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Speaker 6: You know how I like my personnel groupings. If you

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Speaker 6: spread it wide and he could just sit there in

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Speaker 6: and just hold the whole planet. He's running ball behind

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Speaker 2: Like, that's a lot of free yardage problem.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of that, I was watching Van Jefferson blocking a

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Speaker 5: I asked him about that after practice the other day

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Speaker 5: successful receiver in the NFL in his own right, And yes,

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Speaker 5: that's probably something he learned growing up. And he said,

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Speaker 5: me too. You know, if you're if you're Van Jefferson

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Speaker 5: maybe you're going for seventy. So it's a sort of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just watching him do it today, it was kind

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Speaker 3: You know, he was Alan Robinson doing it today, you know,

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Speaker 3: and uh that that's sort He's a better player than

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Speaker 6: He's a better receiver, he's a better route runner, he's

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Speaker 6: more explosive, he's a better pass catcher.

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Speaker 2: Weapon. Robinson was a really good blocker.

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Speaker 6: I mean, not to sell him short, but to both

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Speaker 6: your guys points that that doesn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like you said, son of a coach, if

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Speaker 6: you're gonna be in that Atlanta scheme last year, you're blocking,

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Speaker 5: The great blocker. That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, between Cup and the KUPA they use him like

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Speaker 2: that makes any sense at all? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Who did that? That? The two plays they run right,

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Speaker 6: Great blockers. They come back on crackbacks bends right. No,

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Speaker 3: Of course, we also got to see excuse me, backs

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Speaker 3: on backers today. I thought Darnel Washington looked great. Washington

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's it's an extra stuff to get around him,

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Speaker 6: you know, especially in drill like that. I mean he's

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Speaker 5: No, I think Washington has looked good previous to that,

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Speaker 5: Like I think he's been. It looks like they're there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we're talking about throws out in

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Speaker 5: you don't go out and make a big splash and

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Speaker 5: make a trade before the season begins. Is it outrageous

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Speaker 5: to think he could have thirty thirty five catches? He

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Speaker 6: I bet he plays seventy five percent of snaps. I mean,

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Speaker 2: He had one today.

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Speaker 6: And that big body just shielding people off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also liked what I saw Michael Pruitt

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we hadn't talked about that, but I thought the

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Speaker 6: he's not a special you know, specimen or anything like that,

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Speaker 5: Well. The other thing is too with Rodney Williams out.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I mention him. Yeah, those three

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Speaker 5: I think, right, yeah, those three are locks. And then

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Speaker 5: you know you're looking at the battle for that for

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Speaker 5: that fourth spots. So you gotta you have to be

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Speaker 5: out there. And I'm sure Rodney Williams is frustrated and

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Speaker 5: wants to get out there. But and did you you

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Speaker 5: also mentioned Jalen Warren too, Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I thought he stood up really well and

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Speaker 6: back Forard.

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Speaker 5: He that guy loves to hit. I mean, I know

448
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Speaker 5: your breakdowns and what a great back he is and

449
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Speaker 5: how many tackles he's breaking and all that stuff, But man,

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Speaker 5: he relishes, he reblishes that, like I think he could

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Speaker 5: spend all practice down there, Yeah, happily banging into going.

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Speaker 6: Into the whistle and beyond.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Patrick Queen's considered a really good pass

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Speaker 6: rusher and that that when those reps weren't really even close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he still stunned him twice on those. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One other thing that stood out to me today was

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Speaker 3: when they went to the inside run stuff, we saw

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Speaker 3: fullback out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit, quite a bit.

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Speaker 6: I thought the same thing I'm like, there's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a fullback on this roster. I mean, hopefully that's a

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Speaker 6: good special team or I don't think Connor Hayward can

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Speaker 6: do the fullback stuff that.

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Speaker 2: They asked this guy to do. I mean he's kind

466
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Speaker 2: of a hammerhead. Yeah, I forget his name.

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Speaker 5: Still so and I think that's that will be really

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Speaker 5: interesting because you know, you look, you know, they're playing

469
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Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills in a couple of week weeks and

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Speaker 5: they have a full back, Reggie Gilliam on the roster one.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's competing for the spot. He's gonna make the team,

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Speaker 5: probably because they like to use a fullback. We've seen

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Speaker 5: years where we had Dan Kryder obviously, but we've seen

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Speaker 5: years where is there going to be a fullback even

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Speaker 5: on the roster.

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Speaker 3: There's probably like in all of college football forty I

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Speaker 3: would guess, Yeah, so you got six or seven coming out,

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Speaker 3: and I mean we do the draft stuff like crazy,

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Speaker 3: and you look at you look at the fullbacks are

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Speaker 3: in the draft over here, and there's.

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Speaker 2: Like six to get draft pick up the other guys

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Speaker 2: in free agency. I mean, it's a it's a dinosaur.

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Speaker 5: I think that the interesting point and you guys are

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Speaker 5: both bringing it up. Is like, if if Connor Hayward

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Speaker 5: can be that guy and Michael Pruitt, the two of

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Speaker 5: them combined can be that guy, then you probably don't

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Speaker 5: need a fullback on the roster unless that fullback ken

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Speaker 5: as you said, Matt, do a lot of really good

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Speaker 5: things for you on special teams. But if you feel

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Speaker 5: like a full back is an integral part of your team,

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Speaker 5: that's a that's a position that's gonna go to him

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Speaker 5: and then somebody else is going to be out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Can you keep four tight ends or I would think

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Speaker 6: you don't keep six receivers? I mean if the five

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Speaker 6: is probably the max there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think part of that too is with the new

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Speaker 3: kickoff rule, which we saw them start to rep today.

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Speaker 2: That was fine, that was interesting. You're gonna need bigger

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Speaker 2: bodies on that part of it.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna need as many You know, you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna have a Miles Boykin who's basically on the team

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Speaker 3: to play special teams because unless unless he's just an

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Speaker 3: outstanding gunner. Yeah, because you've you've taken that aspect out

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Speaker 3: of it with.

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Speaker 6: The kick return and maybe a James Pierre who was

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Speaker 6: super high in special team snaps last year, isn't as

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Speaker 6: valuable because he's not big and strong enough for kickoff now,

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Speaker 6: you know, yeah right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many defensive back now you see

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Speaker 3: out there, especially guys who were.

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Speaker 2: Less than two hundred pounds. I mean, if you're not

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Speaker 2: a gunner or one of the top two gunners. Stuff.

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Speaker 3: And Matt, we talked about last week about the you know,

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Speaker 3: Cameron Johnston the punter.

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Speaker 2: Are your gunners to be nearly as important as they

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Speaker 2: have been if he's you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: fair catches. There's a lot of fair catches.

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Speaker 3: He's angling the ball out of bounds and things of

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Speaker 3: that nature.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't know, I would think your slot corners

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Speaker 6: are set up for that or one of the young

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Speaker 6: maybe it's Rush or Trice or somebody like that. Who

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Speaker 6: knows the gunners there is a receiver though, I mean

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Speaker 6: usually it's one of the receivers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we were talking about this. I think,

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Speaker 5: Matt correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you

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Speaker 5: were there the day we were talking about Cameron Johnson.

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Speaker 5: I think you were talked about birthday. But I'm infatuated

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Speaker 5: with him the way I parsed it up for Dale

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Speaker 5: and and for fans, just to try to understand how

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Speaker 5: important that increase in the punter can be. So if

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Speaker 5: you abscribed his yards to your offense, and of course

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Speaker 5: you can't do that, he's not he's not an offensive guy.

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Speaker 5: But just to show you what twenty five yards a

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Speaker 5: game means. So that's the difference between his net average

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Speaker 5: and Harvin's net average a year ago. And if you

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Speaker 5: took that and gave it to the offense, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: give you that that extra twenty five yards we're getting

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Speaker 5: into the punt Gaber going to abscribe to the offense.

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Speaker 2: Instead of two hundred and seventy five yards offense, yeah,

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Speaker 2: three hundred.

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Speaker 5: The Steelers offense goes from twenty six in the league

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Speaker 5: in yards to nineteenth just with your punter. That's not

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Speaker 5: even that's not even improving your offense. It's not talking

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Speaker 5: about the quarterbacks, right. You talk about that hidden yardage

548
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Speaker 5: all the time, And I think that that's maybe one

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Speaker 5: way to look at it to underscore how valuable that

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Speaker 5: guy could be and the punting game could be for

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Speaker 5: your team.

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Speaker 6: Not to mention defensive starting average field position too. You

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Speaker 6: know that's massive. You know, you're hundred percent right. This

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Speaker 6: is super nerdy. But football siders, you know, formerly they

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Speaker 6: have a punting metric. Harvin was thirty second last year.

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Speaker 6: This guy was six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just just don't be the worst. It goes

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Speaker 6: a long way.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely guys.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to a break here as the ring continues

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Speaker 3: to fall here at Saint Vincent College where the Steelers

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Speaker 3: just wrapped up practice a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit ago.

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Speaker 3: Here, day number five, first day in pre and pads

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: He is Rob King. That's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: You're listening here live to us on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 3: and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back live at Saint Vincent College. Here

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Speaker 2: on the beautiful campus at Saint Vincent College, I should.

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Speaker 3: Say, here in lay Trope, and it is raining here.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers got their practice in earlier around the rain drops. Somehow,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how much longer this keeps up. Here kind

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Speaker 3: of kept the crowd a little bit smaller today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I a little scared off.

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Speaker 3: I thought today would be a big one because of

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Speaker 3: you know, the first padded practice.

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Speaker 2: But I do believe the rain probably scared some people away.

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Speaker 2: But guys, we saw.

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Speaker 3: Again Russell will and get out there a little bit today,

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Speaker 3: do a few things here and there, but nothing substantial

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Speaker 3: to yet to this point. I would expect maybe that

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Speaker 3: changes tomorrow if the ring gets out of the area

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Speaker 3: here and the field drives up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But he's still heavily involved. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about this.

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Speaker 6: Out there and drills today and he's you know, very

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Speaker 6: very involved. He has been in every practice. I'm not

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Speaker 6: super concerned with it. I am interested. You know, how

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Speaker 6: much is Field's getting out of these five practices that

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Speaker 6: Wilson hasn't been around.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure quite

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Speaker 2: a bit.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Rob, we were having a conversation earlier

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Speaker 3: about and it came down to the you know, we

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Speaker 3: were talking about some of the stuff with the pirates.

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Speaker 3: When you're used to being the quarterback in this situation,

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Speaker 3: usually Fields is coming in from Chicago, where he was

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Speaker 3: the unquestioned number one. He's used to taking all the snaps,

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Speaker 3: so all spring he's taking number two snaps. Now he

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Speaker 3: gets into this situation where he's taking number one snaps,

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Speaker 3: and I think he has gotten better each day in

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Speaker 3: doing so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought was it the last practice, I didn't

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Speaker 5: think he was sharp, but I thought today he was sharp.

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Speaker 5: There's one practice in that I can't remember it was

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Speaker 5: Saturday or Sunday. Right, I didn't think he looked particularly sharp,

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Speaker 5: but he is looked. I mean you can understand watching

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Speaker 5: him why he was a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean the wheels are explosive. The arm it can

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Speaker 5: be a rocket, he can throw some lasers. He can

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Speaker 5: do some great things out there. I also think that

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Speaker 5: this is another learning opportunity for guy. Right, So you

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Speaker 5: know you think about used to being the number one,

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Speaker 5: used to being the number one. Now you're the number two, right,

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Speaker 5: But now you want to be the number one, right,

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Speaker 5: don't you? I mean, obviously you want to be the

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Speaker 5: number one. So now you get an opportunity to get

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Speaker 5: number one. Sat. You know, reps, are you going to

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Speaker 5: try too hard to impress?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Are you going to try to they show everybody see.

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Speaker 3: It goes to what we were talking about with baseball,

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Speaker 3: where guys are used to playing every day right now,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're only playing three days a week,

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Speaker 3: and so you lose a some of your sharpness. But

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Speaker 3: be to your point, I think when you do get

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Speaker 3: in the lineup now, you're pressing a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you guys were talking about that off

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Speaker 2: the air of our listeners have no clue, So that's

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Speaker 2: off the air.

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Speaker 5: So if you're a veteran, But if you're a veteran guy, right,

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Speaker 5: you understand or at some point in your career, maybe

639
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 5: you're just born a certain way that it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: if you are the backup left fielder to Brian Reynolds

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Speaker 5: for the Pirates to use the Pirates analogy all star

642
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Speaker 5: left fielder, if you come in and go three for

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Speaker 5: three with a.

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Speaker 2: Home run, you're going back to the bet.

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Speaker 5: You're not playing tomorrow, right, So it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 5: it doesn't You know, you don't have to put undue

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Speaker 5: pressure on yourself. But I think even little instances like

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Speaker 5: this mentally can be a good opportunity for a player

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Speaker 5: to say, Okay, so how do I handle that? Because

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Speaker 5: how are you going to handle now being thrust into

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Speaker 5: a game, if there's an injury or for some reason

652
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Speaker 5: you're forced to play, are you still going to try

653
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Speaker 5: to be over the impressor you're going to think, Hey,

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Speaker 5: maybe I learned something back in the trope when I

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Speaker 5: was trying too hard to impress instead of just you know,

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Speaker 5: doing my and again, I'm I'm not I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 5: he is trying too hard. I'm just saying that anytime

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Speaker 5: you have an opportunity physical reps, but also mentality wise,

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Speaker 5: everything is a challenge, right, it's and and if it's

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Speaker 5: not a challenge, the coaches are going to create a

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Speaker 5: challenge for you. Right.

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Speaker 6: What would be interesting to me, and we probably won't

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Speaker 6: get those answers, is he's been a Steeler starter for

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Speaker 6: five practices? How does he handle the huddle? How does

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Speaker 6: he handle the checks? How does he handle a veteran

666
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Speaker 6: like Isaac Camalu blows a block?

667
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Speaker 2: Does hey that's not good? You know?

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Speaker 6: Like is this his team? You know, like that's houses

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Speaker 6: mentality on the field. I'd be curious about.

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Speaker 2: That, thanks question.

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Speaker 6: Things will never find out things just observing he looks

672
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Speaker 6: more and more comfortable, and I do think he's never

673
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Speaker 6: going to be Drew Brees in seven on seven where

674
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Speaker 6: the ball never hits a ground, But when bodies are

675
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Speaker 6: around him and he can use his legs and his physicality,

676
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Speaker 6: he's gonna feature him better. So these upcoming practices, including today,

677
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Speaker 6: are more his bag.

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Speaker 5: Going back to Russell Wilson and the sort of smart

679
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Speaker 5: running and Russell was listening earlier in his career is

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Speaker 5: a phenomenal runner, maybe below the upper level guys, but

681
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Speaker 5: always a good mobile, great athlete. He played professional baseball.

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Speaker 6: He's a great athlete, especially considered the game changed since

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Speaker 6: his rookie year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in that regard a big quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: So can can this be? Can justin fields be the

686
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Speaker 5: kind of guy who runs judiciously but also runs to

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Speaker 5: use his legs. I mean, you're gonna want him to

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Speaker 5: run more, But maybe there are times in which one

689
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Speaker 5: read and go and maybe either that's a maturation as

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Speaker 5: a player, maybe that's playing behind a lousy offensive line

691
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Speaker 5: and thinking if I don't run now, I'm gonna get killed.

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Speaker 5: But some of these things are things that you wonder

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Speaker 5: can he learn from Russell Wilson? You know, wes Uler

694
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Speaker 5: was saying that somebody found his draft, Dave was drafted.

695
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Speaker 5: You know, they talk to the guys, they get a

696
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Speaker 5: minute and a half or whatever, and hey, who's the

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Speaker 5: guy you looked up to? His guy was Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 5: And I hear he is playing with Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 5: in learning, maybe some of those nuances from Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: might be they might be really useful.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why you know those two talked.

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Speaker 3: I think when when the Steelers acquired Justin Fields, and

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Speaker 3: obviously Wilson was already with the team. To your point

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Speaker 3: about you know, him being a Russell Wilson fan, I

705
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Speaker 3: think that's why he's willing to take that back seat

706
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Speaker 3: right now and learn from Russell Wilson. This is a

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Speaker 3: great opportunity for Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: I would saying the same thing.

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Speaker 6: You know that the staggering of age and where they're

710
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Speaker 6: at in their career would be a heck of a

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Speaker 6: lot different if it was Fields, and pick it out

712
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Speaker 6: of your battling, you know, like, yeah, they'd respect each other,

713
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Speaker 6: they might be real good friends.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like I've seen this guy's body of work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's won super Bowls. He might go the

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Speaker 2: Hall of fame, you know, I mean, like I get

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Speaker 2: where my place is here.

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Speaker 5: I like that too, And again, it would be interesting

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Speaker 5: to know the mentality, Like I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: us have looked at the quarterback position. I just started

721
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Speaker 5: thinking about this a couple of days ago. You think

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Speaker 5: about the quarter back position in terms of talent, Like,

723
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Speaker 5: are you gonna so Mason Rudolph came in and did

724
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Speaker 5: a nice job for you, and you won the three

725
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Speaker 5: games in which you did a nice job for you,

726
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Speaker 5: Well what if you get a future Hall of Fame.

727
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Speaker 5: We're doing a nice job for you seventeen weeks out

728
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Speaker 5: of the season, and now you have a really talented,

729
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Speaker 5: intriguing backup quarterback and a really competent third quarterback. Okay,

730
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Speaker 5: so we're looking at it from a talent perspective, and

731
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Speaker 5: what can they do in the field? Well, how about

732
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Speaker 5: how about a team makeup? And how about a who's

733
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Speaker 5: gonna play? Like this time last year it was a

734
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Speaker 5: wide open battle between three different quarterbacks, and I would

735
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Speaker 5: think that not knowing your pecking order could be a

736
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Speaker 5: little bit disruptive. Perhaps, I mean, everyone's gonna pull together.

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Speaker 5: We get that Mason Rudolph is a great teammate. We

738
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Speaker 5: understand that, but you know, there's degrees of everything. Is there,

739
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Speaker 5: like a little subtle kind of churning of the waters

740
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Speaker 5: there that you would just as soon do without. That

741
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Speaker 5: certainly should not be the case this year.

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Speaker 6: I also think it interesting too about just Fields himself.

743
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Speaker 6: I'm not exaggerating. I think he's the best running quarterback

744
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Speaker 6: on the planet right now, you know, I mean, as

745
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Speaker 6: great as Lamar is.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't run quite as much as he used to.

747
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Speaker 2: Lamar is getting a little up in age.

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Speaker 6: Fields is as fast and bigger, and when he turns

749
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Speaker 6: a corner, he is gone and he can break tackles.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and I think the Bears handled this poorly.

751
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Speaker 6: But how do you bring them along as a total

752
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Speaker 6: package when you can rely on that cheek code.

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Speaker 2: All the time? You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing that you know, yes, exactly when

755
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: you think about it, Like early last year, well, Fields

756
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Speaker 3: isn't running, okay, They're trying to make him, you know,

757
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Speaker 3: trying to make him a pocket pass.

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Speaker 2: Steelers went through this with Cordell Stewart. I bet you know,

759
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Speaker 2: you try to. He needs to be better in the pocket, okay,

760
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Speaker 2: but he still has that ability to do this, and so.

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Speaker 3: You know, do you want to do you want to

762
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Speaker 3: tamper that or temper that because it's still a huge weapon.

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Speaker 3: It's still a big part of his game.

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Speaker 6: The goal is to win on Sunday, and that's why

765
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Speaker 6: helped you win one. Right, Yeah, seven shots. I mean

766
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Speaker 6: that's a touchdown, right.

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Speaker 5: I think that's why I go back to, like if

768
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Speaker 5: Fields is watching Wilson run and when he runs and

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Speaker 5: how he runs and why he runs, and then be

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Speaker 5: able to because no two players are exactly the same,

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Speaker 5: incorporate some of his own unique running skills that are

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Speaker 5: beyond Russell at this stage, maybe beyond Russell in his prime.

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Speaker 5: He's got a different skill set. How do you incorporate

774
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Speaker 5: all that stuff and bring it all together, get all

775
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Speaker 5: those skills simmering to the to the best of their ability,

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Speaker 5: because he's got an intriguing tool set.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you were talking about smart running and Wilson

778
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Speaker 6: and he's Rogers comparisons. Those guys never ran quarterback power though.

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Speaker 6: You know, like, right, he's getting a snap and he's

780
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Speaker 6: running behind a bunch of beef that's pulling all s right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, and you're crazy if.

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Speaker 2: You don't If he's in the game. You know it's

783
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Speaker 2: a fine line.

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Speaker 3: Yep, he is Matt Williamson. That's Rob King. I'm Dale Lelly.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

786
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Speaker 3: and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. Guys are earlier today. The Steelers

787
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Speaker 3: making a couple of roster moves. The cornerback count Kyler

788
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: McMichael and tight end Matt Sokel released. We're defensive back

789
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: Josiah Scott and wide receiver Marquez Callaway. We also saw

790
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Speaker 3: Roman Wilson go down today in seven seven shots.

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Speaker 2: Haven't heard.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it's serious. It's an ankle injury. Uh

793
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Speaker 3: doesn't look like it's going to be anything long term.

794
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Speaker 3: So that's that's a good a good note there, because

795
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Speaker 3: you don't want to see the young rookie receiver miss

796
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Speaker 3: a lot of time here.

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Speaker 6: I just hope you don't hear high ankle. You know,

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Speaker 6: those things really linger. If it is only a couple

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Speaker 6: of days, great that that would be phenomenal. There are

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Speaker 6: so many examples, though, of rookies who don't have a

801
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Speaker 6: normal off season. They get injured early in camp and

802
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Speaker 6: then fighted and fighted and are never quite the same

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Speaker 6: and are never comfortable.

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Speaker 2: That always scares me with new guys.

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Speaker 5: So Mark Wes Callaway was, you know a guy in

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Speaker 5: that mix of receivers. You know, Scotty Miller, you know

807
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Speaker 5: he caught passes for Tom Brady down for one year

808
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Speaker 5: in Tampa. He had thirty three catches one year. Marquz

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Speaker 5: Callaway has had some success, eighty three career receptions. You know,

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Speaker 5: Des Fitzpatrick was a fourth round pick. You know, there's

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Speaker 5: a Quez Watkins has ninety eight career catches. There's a

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Speaker 5: lot of guys. Van Jefferson I was a little surprised.

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Speaker 5: And again, you know they're evaluating and they're making the decisions,

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Speaker 5: but I was a little surprised that, you know, he

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Speaker 5: was sort of eliminated from the competition at this point

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Speaker 5: in camp. They didn't bring in another receiver. They did

817
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Speaker 5: bring in another tight end. Now whether that's related to

818
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Speaker 5: the Rodney Williams lingering shoulder issue or not, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And they brought in another defensive back, and I again,

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Speaker 5: Josiah Scott, you know, it's not my job to sit

821
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Speaker 5: here and evaluate talent, but some people seem to think, hey,

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Speaker 5: he's in the battle for the slot corner and is

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Speaker 5: he gonna be is he gonna be the guy? And

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Speaker 5: the answer to that appears to be no, because he's

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Speaker 5: not with the team anymore.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if this is true or not, but

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Speaker 6: just being with teams often the cases with guys like that,

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Speaker 6: they're not doing it in the in the meeting room,

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Speaker 6: you know that. Yeah, you go on tape and like

830
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Speaker 6: you're supposed to blitz here or you're supposed to play

831
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Speaker 6: outside leverage and you didn't. And you've been with the

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Speaker 6: team now for a couple of weeks, you know, for

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Speaker 6: a couple of months and a week here, I'm kind

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Speaker 6: of tired of coaching this guy. Not that he doesn't try,

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Speaker 6: or he's not smarter, any of those things, but if

836
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Speaker 6: you're not assignment sound, you often find yourself on the

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Speaker 6: street early in camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I also think when you know, when you look

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Speaker 3: at it, that Nickel corner spot, Grayland Arnold, yep is

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Speaker 3: it's a name to know.

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Speaker 2: Huh, that's a guy.

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Speaker 3: That's been making some plays. I think Thomas Graham has

844
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Speaker 3: made some plays there as well. You're looking at thirty

845
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Speaker 3: five and thirty seven. You also have being he Bishop there,

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Speaker 3: so they've got some guys there. We've also seen a

847
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Speaker 3: lot of Deshaun Elliott, the safety up in the slot

848
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: as well. They play that three safety look, you can

849
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Speaker 3: make a Fitzpatrick up in the slot. You know, Demante

850
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: Kayz has drifted up to the slot as well, so

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Speaker 3: they've got different options there.

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Speaker 2: So they real quick.

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Speaker 6: Every year we do this, about this time, a name

854
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Speaker 6: that we didn't think we were going.

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Speaker 2: To talk about, we start talking about, like Jayalen Warren

856
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Speaker 2: jumped off the page when he was a rookie, you know,

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Speaker 2: undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if it's Arnold could be. I mean, this

859
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Speaker 3: is a guy that has some gravitas in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's not played a ton, but he's played and you know,

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Speaker 3: oftentimes Smith brings him up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right, yes, for sure, no it and it's uh,

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Speaker 5: it's it's one of the fun parts of camp. And

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Speaker 5: I think it's one of the things that this year

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Speaker 5: there's always open to like Jalen Warren, like James Harrison,

866
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Speaker 5: like somebody plays in the past. Hey, right, they're they're

867
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Speaker 5: not just here. Aaron Smith talked about that when he

868
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Speaker 5: was with it. They're not just cannon fodder for practice.

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Speaker 5: They're here they've got an opportunity to hopefully show what

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Speaker 5: they can do.

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Speaker 3: I've talked with guys about that in the past, you know,

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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: the undrafted guys who have made this team and you know,

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Speaker 3: or you know, even just got to try out here.

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Speaker 3: And like, you know, do you look at that history

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Speaker 3: when you're looking at signing with the team you can pick,

876
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, unlike the drafted guys.

877
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: You get to pick where you go. You'd rather be

878
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 6: the top undrafted free agent than a seventh round And.

879
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: They also, you know, this is you know, knowing that

880
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: history here with the Steelers that there have been guys

881
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: who have not only made the team as undrafted guys,

882
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: but become stars. You know, they feel like that, you know,

883
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: the organization does give you more of a chance to

884
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: make it. They don't care how you got here, it's

885
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: just that you're here.

886
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: I did that that year the grounds.

887
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 6: You know, I was calling wide receivers knowing we drafted

888
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 6: one in the first round and we were going to

889
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 6: sign another. And you know, I've thought about it a lot,

890
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: just from the Steeler perspective, is what a recruiting tool

891
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 6: that is?

892
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: Is not only do we give these guys reps and

893
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: a lot of preseason tape that they could go somewhere

894
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: else to, but some of them have become stars here,

895
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, we just saw Willie Parker right

896
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: exactly two thousand and five Super Bowl. There's you know,

897
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: Dan Kryder is the fullback, Willie Parker's the running back.

898
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: You're got an undrafted backfield.

899
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: When the Super Bowl, you know, Matt Sokoll, the tight

900
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: end was picked up, and I was wondering about that.

901
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: You know, is it related to Rodney Williams being banged

902
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 5: up with his shoulder? And you would know this probably

903
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: more than anybody, Matt. Do you think that Omar Khan

904
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: and his scouting staff and maybe even the coaching staff

905
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 5: of some men putd have a short list of guys

906
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: always and maybe that they're keeping on the hook. Hey,

907
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: we're interested. If something happens, you're our guy. Is that?

908
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: How is that how a guy comes in so quickly?

909
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

910
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: And you're always in touch with those agents. I mean, frankly,

911
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: even on game day. If okay, let's say Rodney Williams

912
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 6: would have made the team and unfortunately in the first

913
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 6: quarter of Week four he breaks his leg. Omar gets

914
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: that call immediately he's on an agent. He's got a

915
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: short list of emergency they called it the emergency list,

916
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 6: emergency list.

917
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: Tight ends. You called the first one at the top,

918
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: and maybe by halftime he would deal. Wow, that's incredible. Yeah,

919
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: you need you hear on Monday.

920
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

921
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: Can I say, well, we got better of a good

922
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: relation with the agent too.

923
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: Is he really in shape or you just tell them

924
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: he's in shape?

925
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: You know? Yeah, that's right.

926
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: One more.

927
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: Thing that I think is neat at practice here and

928
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 5: again this is my practice experience. I haven't been to

929
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: Green Bay's camp. I haven't been to the RAMS camp.

930
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: I haven't been to other camps. But you know, you

931
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 5: always see, you know, who's going to be out there

932
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: first and who's working late in the drugs machine, like

933
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: you know, Calvin Austin must have caught you know, hundreds

934
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 5: of balls after practice. But I also like to see,

935
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: you know, the veterans and the young guys working together

936
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: in every day after practice. James Daniels and Mason McCormick

937
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: have worked with a pad and they've been working on

938
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: some drills and that's for both of them. So and

939
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: I talked to James about that today and he said

940
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: you know, Isaac Cimla did that with Spencer Anderson, so

941
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: he wanted a guy. So now he's working with Mason

942
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: McCormick and then on the other field and lasting so

943
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 5: long after practice.

944
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: That horrors of horror.

945
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: And if you know anything about media, you know that

946
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: missing lunch is I mean, lunch is sacricaying. I almost

947
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: missed lunch today. That's all on those guys were out

948
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: there for but Cam Sutton working with the young groups

949
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 5: of receivers out on the middle field, nobody around, nobody around, nobody,

950
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: no fans around, just working on techniques and drills. And

951
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: to see that passed along, and you know, Cam Sutton

952
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: was saying that Willy Gay did that with him and

953
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: a young Mike Hilton did that with him. And to

954
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 5: see that passed along, it's I mean, you've.

955
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: Just seen TJ and herbig last year. Yeah, I mean

956
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: her follow.

957
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 5: Right. I think that's great. And you know, if you're

958
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: if you're Cam Sutton or if you're James Daniels going into

959
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: the last year of year contract, you could very well

960
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: be grooming your replacement.

961
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: And that often happens here and guys talk about it

962
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: all the time. You know, it's paying it forward, and

963
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's it's been the Steeler way for

964
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: for so long. I don't know that it happens everywhere

965
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: like that. I think, you know, I think they they

966
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: foster that whatever you want to call it that. But

967
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: but guys aren't afraid to do it because they under

968
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: stand that, you.

969
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Know, especially if it was done for them. Yeah, when

970
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: it was done for them. I think they're being that

971
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: fourth round pick.

972
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: I think they have a you know, like I want

973
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: to do that. I want to do what what this

974
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: guy did for me? When when I you know, you

975
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: mentioned Willie Parker, Jerome Bettis takes Willy Parker under his wing.

976
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 3: He's an undrafted guy, doesn't have to do that, Yeah,

977
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: and just shows him the ropes and and you know,

978
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: talks to him about, you know, what it's like to

979
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: be a.

980
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: Pro and how to do this and how to do that.

981
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: And sometimes it even goes beyond the football field. You

982
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: know what what do you know? Where do I where?

983
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: Where should I buy a car?

984
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: At?

985
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: You know? How much money should I spend on an apartment?

986
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: And things of that nature.

987
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 6: Right Once, I mentioned Larry Fitzgerald earlier, but his rookie year.

988
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 6: Emmett Smith was a cardinal at the end of his career,

989
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 6: and he told Larry, I mean, if you're gonna be

990
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 6: a big time guy, you don't wear the same suit

991
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 6: before the game that you wear after. I mean, you

992
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 6: have some class be a star, you know. I mean,

993
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: like you don't just put that one back on. You

994
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 6: got two suits on game day.

995
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: You know.

996
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of stuff. Right, if you're Emmitt Smith,

997
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: that's what you do, right, end up in the Hall

998
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: of Fame. Guys.

999
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

1000
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: You mentioned Spencer Anderson earlier today and we got to

1001
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: see him running with the ones a little bit today.

1002
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: I think I can't remember who was in or out.

1003
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Daniels or Sayamalu, but

1004
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: I was watching him in the one on one pass

1005
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Block Era one on one drills over there.

1006
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: He's come a long way.

1007
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 6: He's like the Justin Fields, taken advantage of people ahead

1008
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 6: of him being out guy.

1009
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: You know. Really interesting. I mean.

1010
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 6: We were talking about Daniels and I always think big picture.

1011
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 6: I try to think like a GM. That's what I

1012
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 6: always wanted to do. I mean, as much as Daniels

1013
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 6: is going to make next year on the open market,

1014
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 6: between McCormick and Anderson, they might be like I understand,

1015
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: or hey, throw James Daniels in a wide receiver trade,

1016
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 6: like you might be fine, you know, I mean like

1017
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: they may have two diamonds in the rough.

1018
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Especially Anderson. He was really good in camp last year.

1019
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: I think that of the you know, we're we all

1020
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: want to see what's going to happen at the wide

1021
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 5: receiver position. And there's a lot of attention nationally on

1022
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: the quarterback position, and you're always interested in the rookies

1023
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: Zach Frasier and Faltanu and you know you mentioned we

1024
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: talked about Mason McCormick, and you know, how's Roman Wilson

1025
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: gonna do and how's the other well, Peyton Wilson going

1026
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: to do it linebacker and all.

1027
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: These different by the way he did, he did, but

1028
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: you can.

1029
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 5: Talk about so so I I think of the second

1030
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: year guys. There's some second year guys that I think

1031
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 5: are super intriguing, and Spencer Anderson the three guys, and

1032
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: maybe I'm missing one because you know Herbig's going to develop,

1033
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: but we saw something from him last year. We didn't

1034
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: see Anderson last year. We didn't see Darius Rush last year,

1035
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 5: and we didn't see Cory Trice last year because of

1036
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: the injury. Those are three guys that I am really

1037
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 5: really eager to see and see what they can do.

1038
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 5: Dante minimal investments, but again that's the last year there's

1039
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 5: have had great success with that. And so you bring

1040
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: in Dante Jackson, Well, he's up after this year. He's

1041
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 5: already talked about, Hey, I'd love to stay here for

1042
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 5: a long time. You know, he's he's a but listen, uh,

1043
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 5: who knows whether a James d Aniels or a Dante

1044
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: jacks Maybe they're back, maybe they price themselves out. Do

1045
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: you have the replacements right here in house or do

1046
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: you have to go out? But you hate to go

1047
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: into a draft. And I think this is one of

1048
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 5: the things that Steelers have done so well, going back

1049
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: to Kevin Colbert, is not absolutely having to pick one position,

1050
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: you know, maybe having two or three different positions open

1051
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: to you because you have at least plausible replacements at

1052
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: those positions. That allows you to maximize the return you're

1053
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: going to get in the draft. And those are three

1054
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 5: guys that that I think are really really intriguing too.

1055
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's definitely ability there and that that offensive line,

1056
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's gonna be really good this year.

1057
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 6: It was one rep, but I saw Frasier in seven shots.

1058
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: I don't know who he drove, but it was one

1059
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 6: of the defensive tackles five yards into the end zone.

1060
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 6: I was like, Fraser is a guy I've probably got

1061
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: the least feel for of the rookies, just because it's.

1062
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: It is watching something one on ones today and it

1063
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: wasn't great. But a lot of centers aren't great in

1064
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: one on one on ones.

1065
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: The center, they don't do that very often.

1066
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go out on a limb dale and say,

1067
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: for value adjusted offensive lines, a Steelers are in the

1068
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: top ten in football, Matt, would you agree with that?

1069
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: I was listening to.

1070
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: Your podcast, so this sounds familiar.

1071
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: I tapped out. He knew that was going good stuff

1072
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: on that podcast. By the way, I don't know if

1073
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 5: you guys brought that up in the drive. I have

1074
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: not caught up to that episode, but if you haven't

1075
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: heard it, check it out. Check it out.

1076
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: All kinds of good stuff fall over.

1077
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: But at this point, you look at that offensive line

1078
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: and Nate Herbig still still running with the ones out there.

1079
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: I've watched him as well in this stuff and he

1080
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: looks perfectly fine at.

1081
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: Center and doesn't sound like he's giving away that job anytime.

1082
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: No, No, it's gonna be I mean that's again. You know,

1083
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: fans think maybe it's a foregone conclusion that by the

1084
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 5: time they reach the opener, it's gonna be Proderck Jones

1085
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 5: at left tackle, fat Tana at right tackle, Frasier at center.

1086
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 5: Those guys don't want to lose their jobs, you know,

1087
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: we have.

1088
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: It's really seeing project Jones at left tackle in this camp.

1089
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 6: Quick question, just to pull back the curtain in the

1090
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 6: studio where in now Tons or I'm sorry, Wolf, Wolf

1091
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 6: and Starks. We're in here, and I guess what put

1092
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 6: a number on? Yeah, and which he will do, which

1093
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 6: he's bound to do. And you know there's three huge

1094
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 6: drills going on. That was in the far field, so

1095
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 6: I watched after and I guess he looked like he

1096
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 6: held up really well the next two reps. But they're

1097
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 6: in here at screaming Welcome to the NFL.

1098
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: That's bound to happen. Man.

1099
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: You know, there was so much going on at once

1100
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: pro football focused didn't give them a win on that time.

1101
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: You know, when you're when you're watching, you're trying to

1102
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 5: watch backs and backers. You're trying to watch the passing

1103
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: drills right, which is a real live coverage, and then

1104
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: the line drills over there, and you know how it

1105
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: is like some days you're trying to watch three games

1106
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: and like the minute you turn on the Pirates game,

1107
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: you cruise. It's what we don't have picture picture And

1108
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 5: in other days you're like you miss everything, right, Like

1109
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: I was trying to stay at top was going on.

1110
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: There was a lot going on at one time.

1111
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really we really need picture in picture in.

1112
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 5: Picture exactly exactly exactly what the rewind.

1113
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's no DVR going on here at all.

1114
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 5: Like to get ahold of tape, Yes, wouldn't that be nice?

1115
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been it's been interesting. Guys.

1116
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: You mentioned, uh the young linebacker Peyton Wilson. Boys, he

1117
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: flies around. Boy is he active?

1118
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, he really flies around. I noticed some of his

1119
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: backs on back or reps. He's gonna have to get

1120
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 6: his pads a little bit lower. He's a taller, he's

1121
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 6: a taller, skinny year type guy.

1122
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1123
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, and so he went up against Jalen Warst, which

1124
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: tells me, Okay, they wanted to they wanted to see

1125
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: how he You're gotta beat the champ. That's a compliment, Yeah,

1126
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: that's And.

1127
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: So Peyton Wilson at six four rushing against Jalen Warren

1128
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: at five to eight. Jalen Warren's got in the vantage

1129
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: here even though Wilson, Wilson's got ahead of steam. Well

1130
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: he's six you know, he's six inches shorter.

1131
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 5: It looked to me like the first Rep. Wilson kind

1132
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 5: of got around him, like he used a quick rush

1133
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 5: and got around him a little bit. He spun off

1134
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: of him. Yeah, he spun off him. And then the

1135
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 5: second exactly, then the second when he tried to pull

1136
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: rush him.

1137
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: And ready, the tough thing about that drill is determining

1138
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: who won and who didn't win. Yes, for the layman's eyes, Yeah,

1139
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: because a lot of times you look at him so

1140
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: well he got he got to the quarterback.

1141
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: Well it was four seconds, right, it was four seconds.

1142
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 6: Or he's eight yards past the quarterback, right, Yeah, you know,

1143
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 6: the offensive tackle is very happy if you run way upfield.

1144
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, or in a situation like that when Peyton Wilson

1145
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: spins off off of Jalen Warren.

1146
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: Did he spin himself out away from the quarterback? Things

1147
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: of that nature, But yeah, he he doesn't need to

1148
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: work on that pad level. But again, he's a six

1149
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: foot four linebacker that has just he's just everywhere. What

1150
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: I did notice is the reps that he lost.

1151
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: He fought until they dragged him off though, you know,

1152
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 6: like it wasn't like a high love, you know, and

1153
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 6: hang it up and you know, stroll back. I mean

1154
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 6: he was going five seconds in he's still fighting.

1155
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think he looks like a keeper there.

1156
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: You know, they they've really upgraded that, uh that linebacker

1157
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: room with Patrick Queen. You still have a Landing Roberts there,

1158
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson. We'll see what happens with Cole Holkom at

1159
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: some point. Mark Robinson, Yeah, he's still struggling and coverage.

1160
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: I just say I think he's he might be in trouble.

1161
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: Then Matti kavid signing to me was the writing on

1162
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: the wall, because Matti Kavich is going to make this

1163
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: team as a special teams guy.

1164
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, scoring too. Then Robinson played a ton of special

1165
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: teams snaps, but now all of a sudden, you're the

1166
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: sixth most valuable inside linebacker if comes in the mix

1167
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1168
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: You know, For for a guy like Matta Kaevitch, this

1169
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: new kickoff rule is perfect, bro, It's gold for him.

1170
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: You're playing you know five, you run five yards, beat

1171
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: the you know, you gotta beat the blocker there and

1172
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: get to the ball.

1173
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: That's exactly what he does.

1174
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're kind of that Barney

1175
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 6: rebel build. You know, he hasn't looked like.

1176
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: So.

1177
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: You know, I think that you know you're in in

1178
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 5: preseason football, we can all be fooled, right, pick it.

1179
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 5: Last year was five for five touchdown drive, right, and

1180
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: they would talk about, well, you know they're they're showing.

1181
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 5: What they're showing is vanilla. I mean, we all eat

1182
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 5: enough vanilla in the preseason. We've had enough vanilla by

1183
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 5: the time the season. But I think I think there's

1184
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 5: a really good possibility that the alignments we see on

1185
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: kickoffs in the preseason are going to be nothing like

1186
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: the alignments that we're gonna see.

1187
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: When the season started. Oh, nobody's showing any right, it's the.

1188
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: One opportunity for you maybe. Well, of course, there's always

1189
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: wrinkled on offense and defense, but maybe the biggest opportunity

1190
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: to try something completely different than what you showed in

1191
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 5: the preseason.

1192
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's gonna nobody's gonna show you anything on that

1193
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: kickoff role in the preseason. They've got they've all got

1194
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: plans right and schemes.

1195
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: What you told me the other day, the last I

1196
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: guess that was two days ago about the joint practice stuff.

1197
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: I thought was unbelievably interesting. Rob, you might be interested

1198
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: in this stuff.

1199
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 5: Too, Buffalo practice.

1200
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the league, the league has told all the teams,

1201
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: the thirty teams who are doing joint practices that if

1202
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: they rep the kickoff droll during those practices, the league

1203
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: wants the film from that so they could be better reps.

1204
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: They could be better. Like, it's just new for everybody.

1205
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: It's new for everybody, it's new for the league.

1206
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: So they so what the idea I guess would be

1207
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: that the league is then going to put together a

1208
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: film before the season starts.

1209
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what this is good. This is bad.

1210
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: They do this a lot with with different things in

1211
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: terms of like preseason, any new rules they do this with.

1212
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: But in joint practice, you're gonna show your real stuff.

1213
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: When the officials show up here, they always show a film.

1214
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: This is a new emphasis this year, and you get

1215
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: the hip drops. Yeah, here's here's a hip hop. You

1216
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: know this is a hip drop tackle. You can't do this,

1217
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: this is fine.

1218
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 6: Well, they don't have any film of this league, Y're none,

1219
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 6: and they don't know how special teams coaches are going

1220
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 6: to tap.

1221
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that will be part of this.

1222
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: They'll they'll put together a tape of this is this

1223
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: is the proper way to align on this.

1224
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: You can't move early, don't do this, do that that.

1225
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna put together, and that special teams

1226
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: tape would be gold for the coach. Special teams coach, absolutely,

1227
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: that whole thing. The film from all thirty teams that

1228
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: are doing it.

1229
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: Kidding me, the two that actually the two teams that

1230
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: aren't doing it are the are the ones that are

1231
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 3: going to be a disadvantage. That's why there's thirty teams

1232
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: doing his joint practices this year. I'm convinced of it

1233
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: because it's never been that high.

1234
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 5: But do you think they'll all be taped in league?

1235
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: They better if they if they rep it.

1236
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 6: If I'm No, they'll be shared with the league office,

1237
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 6: but not the team.

1238
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1239
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: But if I'm the Steelers and and you're the Bills,

1240
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: and we rep it and I send the tape in

1241
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: and you don't, the league's gonna be going, hey, what

1242
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: what where's your tape at?

1243
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1244
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 5: You know? Oh yeah, as long as they're not going

1245
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: to share it with the other teams.

1246
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: No, No, it just goes to the league office and

1247
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: they're gonna cut it up and say, okay, here, this

1248
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 3: is this is the proper way to do this.

1249
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: This is the bad way to do this.

1250
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 5: And I would assume all these teams are not playing

1251
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 5: each other, like the Steelers are not playing the Bills.

1252
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: They're all doing preseason and stuff against each other, Right, That's.

1253
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 5: What I would want to make sure I wasn't playing

1254
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 5: that team.

1255
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you do sometimes yeah, yeah, oh you know, let's.

1256
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 5: I think a couple of yeah, a couple of weeks

1257
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 5: into the season, things change, right, We're gonna see, wait, three.

1258
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Weeks into the season, it's completely different.

1259
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 5: Season, exactly, right, exactly.

1260
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 6: I bet Special Teams coach after Week one, we'll watch

1261
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 6: every kickoff in the.

1262
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: Whole absolutely absolutely. When I talked to Danny Smith the

1263
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: other day. He's like, I'm gonna watch every kickoff in

1264
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: the preseason everyone.

1265
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: And they still might not show you much, right, but

1266
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: you want to, but you want to.

1267
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: You want to see how gitar teams are like, okay,

1268
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 3: this get they're putting another extra guy out here. Maybe

1269
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: we have to look at doing that or things of

1270
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: that nature.

1271
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 6: Forty nine ers are stunting their kickoff returners or you know,

1272
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 6: treating it like a pass rusher.

1273
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 5: I am, I'm fascinated.

1274
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: Guys. There's a lot totally nobody knows. Nobody knows what

1275
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: this is going to look like.

1276
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 5: We were just talking just a quick gab about you know,

1277
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 5: do you so you know you have that the teams

1278
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 5: lined up with five yards apart from each other, right, yeah,

1279
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: you know you have what ten would be ten blockers

1280
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 5: against nine No, ten blockers against ten guys right at

1281
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 5: the kickers back in the and the lone return manage return. Yeah,

1282
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 5: So are you looking for somebody elusive enough to make

1283
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: one guy miss One guy's penetration could completely ruin say

1284
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 5: a running play, Like let's say you think of it

1285
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: in terms of, hey, this is going to be a

1286
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 5: running play. Let's get a running back out there. Let's

1287
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 5: get a big, physical running back out there, big fast guys.

1288
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 5: You can find a crease. Let's use some offensive linement

1289
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 5: out there. Hey, get a crease and he's gone, you know.

1290
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 5: And now you got a two hundred and thirty pound

1291
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 5: fast guy rumbling down in a five eighty pound kicker

1292
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 5: trying to tackle him, you know, or off.

1293
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: The second layer of defense as a kicker. That's scary. Yes,

1294
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: that's it's a problematic.

1295
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 5: Or do you want a Do you want an elusive guy,

1296
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 5: a punt returner type who can make one guy with

1297
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 5: one guy penetrates. I mean, how often are we gonna

1298
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: see one guy penetrating? And maybe you need to make

1299
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: that guy miss and be more elusive. I don't know.

1300
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: The idea is to have somebody who does both right,

1301
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: which I think the Steelers do.

1302
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 6: I also think I wonder if you're gonna try to

1303
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 6: kick it kick off right, are you gonna maybe take

1304
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 6: a second layer of your defense to create like a line,

1305
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 6: you know, Like I want to trust my kicker to

1306
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 6: be the second layer defense.

1307
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: One guy or two guys are going to drop back

1308
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: to be like the safety. We're gonna play it to

1309
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: that side. That'll be fun to see.

1310
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, let's get to a break. He is Rob King,

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00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: that's Matt Williamson and I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: to The Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: Sports Pittsburgh. We are live from Steelers training camp here

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00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College.

1315
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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this least.

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00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

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00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back.

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly here with the Rob King and

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: the Matt Williams and I don't want Chief matter out

1322
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: of his the title. Guys looking here on ESPN and

1323
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: they have a little, uh change some things up here

1324
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: a little bit.

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: The fifty most impactful.

1326
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: Offseason moves whoa this season and that's any you know, acquisitions,

1327
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: things of that nature. Now, Mike Clay put this together,

1328
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: and I always like what Mike does.

1329
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: He does good work. He does good work. In this instance,

1330
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: he messed up on.

1331
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: One, okay, because he has some other notable editions here

1332
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: at the bottom of this and for the Steelers he

1333
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: has Justin Fields and Isaac Samalu to the to the Steelers, Well,

1334
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: Isaac Samalo, Mike joined the Steelers last year.

1335
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I got edited up out of there. Yeah,

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: so somebody at the editors at the ESPN missed ellen.

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 6: So and Mike's a pa guy, he should know Eagles

1338
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 6: and Steelers. I mean, he's on the wrong side of

1339
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 6: the state, but he's a Pea guy.

1340
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Number fifty is DJ Reader signed by the Lions.

1341
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not comment on all of them. We'll

1342
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: be here all day. But that's a big pick. That's

1343
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: a big one.

1344
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: It's a big loss for the Bengal and it's a

1345
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: big loss for the Bengals. That's why I mentioned that one.

1346
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: Their yards per carry are way different when he's off

1347
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: the field. Forty nine is Jordan Poyer signed by the Dolphins.

1348
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 6: It's interesting that he's in so. I heard a little

1349
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 6: something about this too, that Ployer apparently came to camp

1350
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 6: with Miami and said, Buffalo, we always thought you were soft,

1351
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 6: you know, like he's brought a different attitude within the

1352
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 6: division of He's not wrong. We knew his little year

1353
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 6: went on, you guys are soft. You know we're gonna

1354
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 6: destroy you. Late in the year.

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00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: You need to change that. I'm like, okay, he's not wrong.

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00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 5: No.

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: Forty eight is Jordan Hicks, the linebacker signed by the Browns.

1358
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Really even a starter? He's thirty two years old. Yeah,

1359
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: he's just a guy. He's just a guy. Seven Bryce

1360
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Huff signed by the Philadelphia Eagles.

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 6: It's cool if they swapped out Reddick for Huff. Yeah,

1362
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 6: they got the better of that deal, and Reddick still

1363
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 6: isn't signed. I don't know about this one either. Forty

1364
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 6: six is Kalais Campbell signed by the Dolphins. Now that

1365
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 6: could be a Jordan Poyer like leadership. You're trying to

1366
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 6: bring out, you know, improve your toughness and things of

1367
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 6: that nature. He played the U but let's face it,

1368
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 6: a thirty eight year old defensive tackle wasn't.

1369
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: No, he's going to play twenty STAPs again. Forty five

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00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: is Eric Armstead signed by the Jaguars.

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00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 6: Their defensive front is pretty appealing right now. Yeah, he's

1372
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 6: a good player.

1373
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Forty four is Aroma Dunze drafted by the Bears.

1374
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 6: But we can't do every top ten draft pick. Well,

1375
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 6: they're all on the Yeah.

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Forty three is Xavier Worthy drafted by the Chiefs. Yeah.

1377
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: Forty two Keyon Coleman, wide receiver, drafted by the Bills.

1378
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah right, thirty second, thirty first three of the second round.

1379
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1380
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: Forty one is Morgan Moses acquired by the Jets.

1381
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 6: I guess it's a it's a starter changing teams.

1382
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: And to me it's one again.

1383
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: The Ravens trade away what had been a strength, and

1384
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that they have He was a quality

1385
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: raven for them. Yeah, I don't know what they have

1386
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: replacements on hand. That Ravens offensive line is going to

1387
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 3: be an issue.

1388
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 6: Gonna be an issue, right, and ros and Garden's taken

1389
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 6: over for him. They're much different players, much different experience

1390
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 6: and toughness.

1391
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Speaker 3: And you know, forty is Quinny Mitchell drafted by the Eagles. Yeah,

1392
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 3: the first round picks and stuff.

1393
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: We could go all day.

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01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: Thirty nine in Arnold drafted by the Lions. Thirty eight

1395
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: is CJ. Gardner Johnson signed by the Eagles.

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01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 6: Might be their best defensive back. Yeah, you know, it's

1397
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 6: Lays slipping. Bradford's really slipped.

1398
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: Thirty seven is a layout to Lay two drafted by

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Speaker 3: the Colts. Thirty six. This is an interesting one, Hassan

1400
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: red had traded to the Jets.

1401
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: Well, who didn't extend him? Who didn't extend them? And

1402
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: he's still holding out. It's so weird.

1403
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 6: He's holding out for the Eagles. They trade him because

1404
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 6: he's unhappy. If you're gonna trade for him, don't you

1405
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 6: think you'd have a deal in playing? And now he's

1406
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 6: just holding out for his new team. It's kind of

1407
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 6: a big doodle.

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01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: Makes me nuts.

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: Thirty five Eric Kendricks signed by the Cowboys. Mike Yeah,

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01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: Mike has a soft spot apparently for inside lineback aging, inside.

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: Aging inside linebackers. Right, made a good career, but he's

1412
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: shelled himself. Thirty four Tyler Geiton drafted by the Cowboys.

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: All right, first round packs. We could do thirty two

1414
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: of them, couldn't we? Yeah out a fifty year.

1415
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: Thirty three Telisi Flaga drafted by the Saints. I mean

1416
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: they're all big impact moves, but uh, thirty two is

1417
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: Tredavious White signed by the Rams. When we talk about

1418
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: a couple of Bills veterans on this list signed by

1419
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: other teams, Tredavious White hasn't been Tredavious White in several years.

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01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 6: I'm not picking on Alan Robinson, but that feels like

1421
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 6: one of those deals where we're gonna give you a

1422
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 6: chance because of what you used to be and hope

1423
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 6: we have nothing invested and if it works out, great,

1424
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 6: but you're not the player used to be.

1425
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: And that Bills team uh in that secondary in particular.

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01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 5: They signed Kareem Jackson.

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that they got rid of a bunch of

1429
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: old guys and signed an old guy, so a lot

1430
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: of change.

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: Thirty one is Keenan Allen signed by the Bears.

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 6: He could be the Woobie the best Friend. Yeah, Woobie

1433
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: mister mom reference never seen it?

1434
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: You never seen mister mom?

1435
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 6: Come on mom, Michael Keaton, Pittsburgh, Terry Carr, alright, Martin Maull,

1436
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 6: the kids.

1437
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: The kids got a name. Everybody who's in the movie,

1438
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: like his towel thing that he slobbers on, the little kid.

1439
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: Just get cultural references here, like you guys are giving

1440
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 5: me two TV shows to watch now.

1441
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: It's just mister mom. It might be a little outdated,

1442
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: but you know that's okay. Schooner Tuna, Yep, all right,

1443
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: schooner Tuna.

1444
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 5: Wooby's got you. Uh.

1445
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: Thirty Stefan Diggs traded to the Houston Texas.

1446
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 6: That's a huge one. Yeah, there's just no way around

1447
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: that huge. I mean it impacts two teams quite a bit. Yeah, again,

1448
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 6: another Bill Polestale change.

1449
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: I'm shocked that's not higher.

1450
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think that's really high. Yeah. I don't

1451
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: think Diggs is what he used to be.

1452
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 6: I don't either, But if he could be like the

1453
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 6: Keenan Allen move the chains guy for a young.

1454
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: Quarterback, and what do the dude the Bills do to

1455
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: replace him? Yeah, well he got Kean Coleman, who was also.

1456
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 5: You know that they're they're an interesting team. I mean

1457
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 5: they're going all in and and not anymore, you know.

1458
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 5: And then you know a few years ago, remember when

1459
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 5: Jacksonville the year that they beat the Steelers in the playoffs,

1460
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 5: and everyone's like, man, that's and I thought the same thing.

1461
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 5: It's seven Pro Bowlers or something. A team is sending

1462
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 5: a team on the rise. Well then you start playing

1463
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 5: a first place schedule and now you start having a

1464
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: target on your back, and it's a bunch of it

1465
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 5: is like like this team, we're looking out right here

1466
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 5: at Saint Vince. This team is used to having everybody

1467
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 5: serve all the time. They're used to winning, and that's

1468
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 5: a big step that Houston has to take huge to

1469
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 5: to try to prove that they can win.

1470
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: But now you're every you know, you're no longer everybody's

1471
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 3: homecoming game.

1472
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: You're now the rival game.

1473
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: That's a big difference between between being the homecoming opponent

1474
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: and the rivals.

1475
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 6: Second year head coach and quarterback too, right, no one's

1476
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 6: been around the block there, yep.

1477
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: Twenty nine is Frankie Luvu, the linebacker signed by the

1478
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: Washington Commanders. Good player, Mike's big on the linebacker. Yeah,

1479
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: linebacker's getting a lot of ink.

1480
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Jonathan Greenard signed by the Minnesota Vikings,

1481
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: but they swapped.

1482
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 6: Hunter for Greenard. Yeah, you know, could really put that

1483
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 6: stretch in there.

1484
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: Twenty seven Xavier McKinney, the safety signed by the Packers

1485
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: and then they drafted to Yeah.

1486
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 5: What is that defense ever going to be good? With

1487
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 5: all those first round picks that they got a new.

1488
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 6: Coordinator, coordinator, Their defensive coordinator, let's just say you was

1489
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 6: much maligned. I mean that's first round pick after first

1490
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 6: round pick. If this guy doesn't get it right, then

1491
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 6: it might be the Piers.

1492
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty six is Marquise Brown signed by the Chiefs. Yeah.

1493
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's a legit, dude. I agree, Yeah, that's

1494
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: a big one. Twenty five is Brock Bowers drafted by

1495
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They had a lot of weapons. I'm sure

1496
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: they're gona play a lot of double tight end sets.

1497
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: Twenty four is Patrick Queen signed by the Steelers.

1498
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 6: Of the linebacker ones, I think that's the most impactful.

1499
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 6: We've had a lot of linebacker one.

1500
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: You would think, so there's been a lot of linebackers

1501
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: one on on here. I glanced at this earlier. There's

1502
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: one that he put on here.

1503
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: Ahead of this, the linebacker one. Yeah, and I think

1504
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: he might be shocked. It was a good place. It

1505
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: could be White to the Eagles, no good.

1506
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: Twenty three is Deontay Johnson traded to the Carolina Panthers.

1507
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 6: I think that's huge from a Panther perspective. Just give

1508
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 6: me a receiver he can get open. Like I was

1509
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 6: never a bright young fan, but he didn't have anybody

1510
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 6: getting open for him last year.

1511
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, But Dante Jackson coming back in that trade doesn't

1512
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: make the list here, and I honestly, I think it's

1513
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: going to be impactful for the Steelers.

1514
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 6: I do too, but I mean so much as invested

1515
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 6: in the first overall quarterback.

1516
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I get it. Yeah, from their side.

1517
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: I get it in their.

1518
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: Side, And I think when you look at the secondary

1519
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 5: for the Steelers, it's it's Deshaun Elliott and Dante Jackson,

1520
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, just solidifying around. Think if

1521
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick and Joey.

1522
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: Porter Junie, their team speed is so much better, so

1523
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: much better. I'm glad Peterson those guys.

1524
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've talked a little bit about that, Like that's

1525
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 5: that's a huge deal. That's that should lead to more turnovers.

1526
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, should you know team speed, especially if you get

1527
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: the pass rushes you think you're gonna get in you're

1528
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: playing with more leads offensively.

1529
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

1530
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: Twenty two is Calvin Ridley signed by the Titans.

1531
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: It's a big move.

1532
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 6: I mean, another quarterback centric. Let's put a lot of

1533
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 6: stuff around our young guy and Steven Canziker swim.

1534
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: Twenty one is Russell Wilson signed by the Steelers. It

1535
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 3: has to be I mean starting quarterback moves.

1536
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty is JC Latham drafted by the Titans. I

1537
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: don't know about that.

1538
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 6: See, Like I was about to say, it's funny that

1539
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 6: that just came up, Like maybe this will come up,

1540
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 6: But I was going to say something like Callahan the

1541
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 6: offensive line coach going from Cleveland.

1542
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 7: Deal.

1543
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a huge deal to both teams. I mean,

1544
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 6: like if Munchak went from the Steelers to a rival team,

1545
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 6: that's a big deal.

1546
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Nineteen is Bo Nicks drafted by the Broncos. I'm sure

1547
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks are on here. Yeah.

1548
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: Eighteen is Joe All drafted by the Chargers. Seventeen is

1549
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: Kendall Fuller signed by the Dolphins. Is that the seventeenth

1550
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: most impactful move this offseason?

1551
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: I have a fuller blind spot because there's a lot

1552
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: of them.

1553
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 6: When I get like twenty seven of them, Yeah, but

1554
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 6: none of them are worthy enough of being the seventeenth

1555
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 6: biggest move of the offseason.

1556
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: No, No, I would agree with that. Sixteen is JJ

1557
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 2: McCarthy drafted by the Vikings. Fifteen is Drake May drafted

1558
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: by the Patriots. Fourteen is Carlton Davis traded to the Lions. No,

1559
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: he's a starting type corner. I mean they're giveing him money.

1560
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 6: Their their corners are really bad. Last year, Yeah, including

1561
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 6: something new. Was overmatched a little bit.

1562
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asked to do things that really weren't

1563
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: fair to ask him to do.

1564
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 5: They're trying to solidify that defense.

1565
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, draft two corners and trade for one thirteen Saquon

1566
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: Barkley signed by the Philadelphia Eagles. That'd be really interesting.

1567
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 6: I mean, they have never stressed the running back position

1568
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 6: there at all, super analytically and hind team.

1569
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get away with it and get away

1570
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: from get away from the push push and have him

1571
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: be the ball carrier? I mean Hurts usually doesn't throw

1572
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: the backs very much, or they change in their tune,

1573
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: who knows.

1574
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 5: I think that I agree with you, man. I think

1575
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 5: that's like it could be, you know what I mean,

1576
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 5: It could be hugely impact quite likely. Yeah, yeah, Or

1577
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 5: they could use him the way they used Miles Sanders

1578
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 5: and every other running back there.

1579
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 6: I mean some of these inn diivision moves, like Queen

1580
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 6: we talked about, we talked about Poyer. If you play

1581
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 6: against those guys twice a year and you really scout

1582
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 6: him hard and then you go out of your way

1583
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 6: to get him immediately says that always says something to me.

1584
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve is Derrick Henry signed by the Ravens.

1585
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 6: I think that's massive. I think he still has it.

1586
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 6: And I mean there are two, are there any there

1587
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 6: are two of the five or six best ball carriers

1588
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 6: in the last five years, Lamar and Henry.

1589
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 5: Is there any fear that he's a year older, he's

1590
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 5: got a lot of wear and tear in his body

1591
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 5: and he's running behind what what is he running behind?

1592
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: Well, the offensive line he ran behind in tennis last

1593
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: year was probably worse than this one. The thing about

1594
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: the Ravens and everybody looks at you know, this run

1595
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,879
Speaker 3: he ever was five yards of carry for the Ravens

1596
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: because of Lamar.

1597
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gus Edwards does too. Yeah, you know you're you're

1598
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: so if you watch how teams defend them, you have

1599
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: to be cogniz in a setting the edge against Lamar,

1600
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: so you're more willing.

1601
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: Hey, Lamar, go ahead and tuck the ball and Gus

1602
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: Edwards's stomach and let him get his four yards or

1603
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: five yards because that's better.

1604
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: Than you run a sixty with it.

1605
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 6: I mean, like, if you go back in history, like

1606
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 6: Duckett and Warren Dunn or work done when they were

1607
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 6: with VIC had massive yards per carry. Chris Johnson goes

1608
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 6: for two thousand when Vince Young's's quarterback, you know, like

1609
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 6: when when they weren't running quarterbacks back then the running

1610
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 6: backs gash you.

1611
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: Which brings me to the Steelers here.

1612
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 5: Great stuff.

1613
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 2: With the situation that the Steelers.

1614
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: Have with now more running from the quarterback or the

1615
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 3: you know, the potential for more running from the quarterback position,

1616
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: Should that help.

1617
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: Nausea Harris and Jaylen Warren? It should? It should?

1618
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 6: But rob to your point on Henry specifically, I've doubted

1619
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 6: him for three years that you know that the wear

1620
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 6: and tears are good them, but you know he's I

1621
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 6: don't know.

1622
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: I just think he's a special.

1623
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 5: I agree, it does it seems like and again seems

1624
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 5: like is not a good, good enough analysis, but that

1625
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 5: sometimes guys just stop being good all of a sudden.

1626
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: He sled the league and carries for of the last

1627
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: five years, including last year with two hundred and eighty.

1628
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he is insane high school and college

1629
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 6: wearing there. Yeah, but he's different everybody else. Nobody tackled

1630
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 6: him in high school.

1631
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: Right, So right, that's a good point. You've ever seen

1632
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: that tape?

1633
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, and they love and they loved the

1634
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator they brought him. It was monky. They run

1635
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 5: it last year, right last year they brought him in there,

1636
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 5: so they loved all that.

1637
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 6: So it's a different dimension for them for sure.

1638
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 5: Though.

1639
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Number eleven is Lugerious Sneed traded.

1640
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 6: To the Titans. The wholesale move. I mean, it's big

1641
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 6: Money's one of the highest paid corners in the league.

1642
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: Two ten is Brian Burns traded to the Giants.

1643
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, their front could be really good with Lawrence and Thibodeau. Yeah.

1644
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 2: Nine is Malik Neighbors drafted by the Giants the draft funds.

1645
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm kind of ignoring.

1646
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1647
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: Eight, this is the linebacker move that it was ahead

1648
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: of the Patrick Queen. You only want to head a

1649
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen. Bobby Wagner signed by the Commanders.

1650
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: I could only take this angle to defend it. It's

1651
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: like signing zach Ertz, like ding dong. The witch is dead,

1652
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: the owner's gone. Let's just bring in high character veterans

1653
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: to make the facility smell better. And you know what

1654
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: I mean, just change culture. Well, here's here's one.

1655
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: Of the things that he mentions as the the reason

1656
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: why he hasn't lost a step, having led to the

1657
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: NFL and tackles last season with one hundred and eighty three.

1658
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: As any listener, yeah, any listener to this show knows

1659
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: tackle stats are stupid.

1660
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: That's whatever.

1661
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: The guy in the booth feels like chocolate whatever, whatever,

1662
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: the stack crew in the booth feels like giving a guy, well,

1663
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 3: let's give him assist on that when he was close

1664
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: to that one hundred and eighty three tackles.

1665
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: It's a lot of tackles. That's a lot of tackles.

1666
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: Seventeen games. Yeah, let's just put it that way.

1667
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

1668
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: And we saw that that Seahawks team last year that

1669
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: you know they're okay. Yeah, the Steelers ran almost at

1670
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: will against the defense is bad? Yeah yeah. Seven Christian

1671
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: Wilkins signed by the Raiders.

1672
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll buy it's a big time player. Six is

1673
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter signed by the Texans. Okay, okay. Five is

1674
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith signed by the Jets. So it could be.

1675
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 6: I mean, Jets tackles make the top fifty here, and

1676
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 6: at least they backed it up with the first round pick.

1677
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 6: Give some insurance though, you have to, because hard to

1678
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 6: trust all that crude.

1679
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1680
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: Four Marvin Harrison Junior drafted by the Cardinals. I'm sure

1681
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 3: Kayla Williams is on there too, and three is Jayden Daniels.

1682
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 3: Two is Kayleb Williams. And the number one move of

1683
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: the offseason is Kirk Cousins signed by the Atlanta Falcons.

1684
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 6: Pretty rare to have a big times big times maybe

1685
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 6: a strong word, but a legit starting quarterback just be

1686
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 6: on the free agent market.

1687
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean in that Atlanta quarterback situation in

1688
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith's entire time there, Boy, the more I studied

1689
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: with atrocious their quarterbacks or the Arthur Smith Falcon quarterbacks

1690
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 3: were much worse than the Steelers quarterbacks over that stretch.

1691
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I really think he had the worst quarterback

1692
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 6: situation in the league.

1693
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 5: Now, let me ask you this. When you put the

1694
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: quarterback number one and again, this is where you know

1695
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 5: impactful talk about baseball, the most valuable player, what does

1696
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 5: that mean?

1697
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:19,919
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1698
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 5: Does it mean the best player? How do you?

1699
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 2: How do you because quarterbacks are always going to try.

1700
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 5: To Yeah, if if they don't make the playoffs, is

1701
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 5: that a valuable pick up?

1702
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. It's hard to say.

1703
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I see what you're asking, though, I mean.

1704
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 5: Let's put that position that much money.

1705
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: I just saw a thing today that the Falcons, for

1706
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: the first time in several years, sold out all their

1707
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 3: season tickets.

1708
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's got some value to Arthur.

1709
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: So you've created a buzz around your team by not

1710
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: only signing Kirk Cousins but also drafting one in the

1711
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: first round.

1712
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: And at least you would think, I mean, considering the investment,

1713
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,520
Speaker 2: you should at least feet middle of the road and quarterbacking.

1714
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1715
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 6: And you know, I find it funny with with the

1716
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 6: Steeler connections that I'm sure Arthur Smith's looking over his

1717
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 6: shoulder going, I would have liked.

1718
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: Kirk or Justin Field's going.

1719
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 6: I would have liked Keenan Allen and Roman Dunes. Yeah right,

1720
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 6: you know, like what were I chopple ever get all

1721
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 6: this stuff around me after I leave?

1722
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, after after I'm out the door, you go make

1723
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: all these kind of moves that quite frankly, I would

1724
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: have liked to have done that.

1725
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirk Cousin and Pennox, we've been a lot better

1726
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: than case Keenum and Mariota.

1727
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: Fields is really the one that I mean, you look

1728
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: at what Chicago goes this time around, all in on

1729
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: the We're all in on the first first overall pick.

1730
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: Now we go get Keenan Allen. Yeah right, Like, hey,

1731
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: coaching changes. He had nothing. I mean he had all

1732
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: two years ago. His receivers were junk.

1733
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're again back to the Atlanta thing. Desmond

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Speaker 6: Rider was one of the worst quarterbacks in the league

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Speaker 6: last year. The more I watched Atlanta stuff was like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how you know coach Smith could have

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Speaker 6: trusted him at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was a horrendous starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean that's that's what you're dealing with there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, interesting stuff there from Mike Clay. Again, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that I agree with necessarily with all of it.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna put all the draft picks on the

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Speaker 3: Trey Fatano, by the way, did not make the list, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean I didn't read the parameters, but I would

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Speaker 6: have had like Harbaugh going to the Chargers and the players.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I guess. I figured that as we went.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of moves that happened in the

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Speaker 2: league that are bigger than those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But Russell Wilson and Patrick Queen signings both make

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Speaker 3: the list, did as did the Deontay Johnson trade from

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Perspective makes sense, makes sense. I don't think. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that any others would have been in my top fifty,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: And again going back to the Cousins thing, I think

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Speaker 5: there's certain you know, like, if you are the Texans

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Speaker 5: and you got Stefan Diggs, you got him with the

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Speaker 5: idea that you're going to go deep into the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So if you don't go deep into the playoffs after

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Speaker 5: having made that acquisition, it's not as impactful, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. That's the same thing with the quarterback position. Now,

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Speaker 5: if he can't lead you into the playoffs, is that impactful?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We'll find out after the season,

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Speaker 2: I guess. Hey.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for our show today, guys.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back again tomorrow from one thirty three.

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