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Speaker 2: you're like writing down the furor's language and you're speaking it.

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Speaker 2: They will be putting Gitmo under the auspices of Stephen Miller,

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Speaker 2: Cash Patel and Tiffany Trump forever.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you brought Tiffany into this well.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, you know. I mean, I don't like to say

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Speaker 3: John, I hope you'll come back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll come back. When have I ever said no?

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Speaker 1: Mitch Landrew is a White House senior advisor and the

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Speaker 1: former mayor of New Orleans. Welcome back to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Landrew, Where are you at, baby?

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Speaker 4: People are not going to understand that it's been better

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Speaker 4: if you're from New York. Where yet I'm doing great?

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Speaker 4: Thank you for asking.

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Speaker 1: It's a year since you became senior Advisor and the

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Speaker 4: high speed internet, clean air, safe water.

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Speaker 1: So I know what you guys have been up to

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Speaker 1: because I listened to c SPAN. But for the people

436
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Speaker 1: who don't listen to c SPAN, last week was a

437
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Speaker 1: big week for trains.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about trains.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you live on the Northeast cor this is

440
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Speaker 4: something that you know very very well. And by the way,

441
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Speaker 4: the only way that I can start off talking about

442
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Speaker 4: trains is to say that the President of United States

443
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Speaker 4: is a train guy. People should know his story fairly

444
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 4: well that when he was twenty nine he was elected

445
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Speaker 4: to the United States Senate, there was an incredible tragedy

446
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 4: in his family. His wife was killed in a car accident.

447
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 4: He traveled back and forth on Amtrak home at night

448
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Speaker 4: to take care of his two younger sons, and essentially

449
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: did that pretty much every day he was in the

450
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Speaker 4: Senate until he became Vice president. That is a familiar

451
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Speaker 4: experience traveling on the Northeast Corridor from Washington, d C.

452
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Speaker 4: To Boston. And last week, the President and downd sixteen

453
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Speaker 4: point four billion dollars, which is just a piece of

454
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Speaker 4: the investments we're making to trying to have world class

455
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Speaker 4: rail in the United States of America, so you can

456
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Speaker 4: live anywhere along the northeast Corrida all the way from

457
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Speaker 4: Boston down to Washington, d C. The Frederick Douglas Tunnel

458
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Speaker 4: in Baltimore, the Susquehanna Bridge, the thirteen bridges in that

459
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Speaker 4: area that over one hundred years old that are going

460
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Speaker 4: to get replaced. Everybody knows what the choke points are

461
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Speaker 4: in New York around the hug And Tunnel and the

462
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Speaker 4: Gateway Project, eleven billion dollars invested in finally fixing that

463
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Speaker 4: really difficult situation that, by the way, is still suffering

464
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Speaker 4: from some kind of saltwater intrusion from Sandy. A lot

465
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Speaker 4: of investments there to make people's lives better. And then,

466
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 4: of course they're huge numbers. More than that, high speed

467
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: internet's critically important. I just got off a call with

468
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Speaker 4: the Majority leader about two hundred jobs that are being

469
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Speaker 4: created in Syracuse by a company called PPC that is

470
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Speaker 4: going to start making fiber optic cable there. And we

471
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Speaker 4: have examples like that all over the country, and every

472
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Speaker 4: one of the different kinds of investments that are being made.

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Speaker 4: Everybody now knows, by the way, how beautiful it looks

474
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Speaker 4: to have a great airport. Laguadia is just throwing it,

475
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: knocking it out the park. That is what the future

476
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: looks like for aviation in America, and we're investing in

477
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Speaker 4: airports all over the country.

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Speaker 1: What does this mean for me when I take my assella?

479
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Speaker 1: Will my ascella be faster?

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Speaker 2: Like?

481
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Speaker 3: How will this affect me?

482
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Speaker 4: It's an excellent question. And how it affects me? That's

483
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: pretty much what American citizens ask about. Well, what's this

484
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Speaker 4: really mean to me? Not macro sets, but in the

485
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Speaker 4: micro sets. Essentially, there are a couple of things going on.

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Speaker 4: You know, Amtrak is a big player in the space

487
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Speaker 4: along the Northeast cord Or. They have been given a

488
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: substantial amount of money to do a number of different things.

489
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Speaker 4: One of them is to buy and have manufactured in

490
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Speaker 4: the United States new train sets. Those are the cars

491
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Speaker 4: that everybody rides on with the engine that moves it

492
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Speaker 4: from place to place, and so those are in the

493
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Speaker 4: process of being constructed as we speak. I think that

494
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Speaker 4: we are going to purchase over a thousand new train

495
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Speaker 4: cars that have to be manufactured that are going to

496
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Speaker 4: be much closer to being net zero than the ones

497
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Speaker 4: that we have right Now the second thing that they

498
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Speaker 4: are trying to do is along that a tie Northeast

499
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Speaker 4: cord or they're trying to as best as they can

500
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Speaker 4: find out where they can straighten some of the tracks

501
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Speaker 4: without impeding on people's homes and businesses unnecessarily so that

502
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Speaker 4: the trains can actually go faster, and then the trains

503
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Speaker 4: themselves will do that. On top of that, they are

504
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Speaker 4: going to hopefully retrofit a lot of the stations that

505
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Speaker 4: people have to use to make them handicap accessible. The

506
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Speaker 4: other day out for example, I was in Wilmington, Delaware

507
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Speaker 4: cutting the ribbon on a new trains station reproduction project.

508
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Speaker 4: Where folks used to have to carry their bags up

509
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: and downstairs and folks that had physical challenges couldn't move.

510
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Speaker 4: That's all been you know, fixed, and that's going to

511
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: happen across the Northeast Corrida. So the experience should get safer,

512
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 4: it should get faster, it should get better, it should

513
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: need more climate friendly on top of that, outside of

514
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Speaker 4: the Northeast Corrida, which I know that you're equally concerned about.

515
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Speaker 4: Equally if you were in the southern part of the

516
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Speaker 4: United States of Baracka, where I'm from.

517
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Speaker 3: I went there once.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like not Florida, right, Yeah, exactly Are you

519
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: happen to be on the West coast? Are you happen

520
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: to be someplace in between? There are opportunities to create

521
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Speaker 4: a really high speed rail that is gonna mirror maybe

522
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Speaker 4: what you see in Japan or in China, and there

523
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Speaker 4: are a lot of different proposers across the country that

524
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Speaker 4: we're considering that way as well.

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Speaker 1: Could that actually happen? I mean, is that a real

526
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Speaker 1: thing that could actually happen.

527
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Speaker 4: It can happen from New York to Los Angeles. It

528
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: can happen from Vegas to Los Angeles. It can happen

529
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Speaker 4: from Sanford, just go to Los Angeles. It can happen,

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Speaker 4: for example, maybe one day between Georgia and North Carolina.

531
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Speaker 4: You know, I think you have regional things that look

532
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 4: like that. It just depends on, at the end of

533
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: the day, how much you want to invest to get

534
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Speaker 4: us from here to that. But I don't think there's

535
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Speaker 4: any doubt. So I'm from New Orleans, we don't really

536
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Speaker 4: have high speed rail, and we don't We've got some

537
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: am track, but not the way that you guys in

538
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Speaker 4: the Northeast live on this and it just turns out

539
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: that I think eight hundred thousand folks travel every day

540
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Speaker 4: on the Northeast Corridor and you wouldn't even think about

541
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 4: necessarily taking a car or taking a plane. The President's like, look,

542
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Speaker 4: we got to make this faster, better and easier for everybody,

543
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Speaker 4: which is what the goal is. So for the first

544
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Speaker 4: time really in the last fifty sixty years, the President

545
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: was able to get this money in place. We're trying

546
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Speaker 4: to get it down to the ground, which the President

547
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: announce the other day. Biggest announcement on the on the

548
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Speaker 4: whole thing was for the Hudson Tunnel to eleven billion

549
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: dollars a piece of change to fix the old tunnel

550
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Speaker 4: and to build a new one, and then to fix

551
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Speaker 4: all the gateway projects that everybody up there has been

552
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Speaker 4: arguing about forever. So the President finally brought you know,

553
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Speaker 4: New York and New Jersey together. The governors were there

554
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: the other day, the majority of Leader and Senator Gillibrand

555
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: were there, all of the secretaries for DOT and everybody's

556
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: as I like to say, gihunt and working together. And

557
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: this is going to be a real deal thing going

558
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Speaker 4: forward in your Life's hopefully going to be a little

559
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Speaker 4: bit safer, fast, easier, and cheaper.

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Speaker 3: That's a good So talk to me about the lead pipes,

561
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Speaker 3: because you guys are dealing with the drinking water situation

562
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Speaker 3: too well.

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Speaker 4: The other thing, too, is the President and the Vice

564
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Speaker 4: President are adamant that everybody in America are to have

565
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Speaker 4: clean and safe air and water. And quite frankly, of

566
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Speaker 4: all the projects in this bill, the three hundred and

567
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Speaker 4: seventy five of them, and as I told you, they

568
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: criss crossed the country. I've actually, by the way, traveled

569
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Speaker 4: to one hundred and thirty one cities, towns, and counties

570
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Speaker 4: and tribal communities and traveled over one hundred and ten

571
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Speaker 4: thousand miles. I've talked to a lot of folks about

572
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Speaker 4: a lot of things. I have to say that the

573
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Speaker 4: clean air and clean water pieces of this are so

574
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Speaker 4: basic that people just can't believe that in the United

575
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Speaker 4: States of America we're not there yet. And so there

576
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: are happened to be some places in America two million

577
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Speaker 4: people don't have into a plumbing. I know this sounds

578
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: kind of amazing, but that is in fact true. So

579
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Speaker 4: you know, I've been down to Lowndes County in Alabama

580
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: and working on projects like that. I've been as far

581
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Speaker 4: north as in the Pokiok, Alaska, which is like, way

582
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Speaker 4: the hell up there? All right, prob committed me. That's

583
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Speaker 4: the best way I can describe it.

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Speaker 3: How do you even get there?

585
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Speaker 4: By the way my boat?

586
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Speaker 3: Oh wow?

587
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: Oh it's insane. I mean, you fly and then when

588
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 4: you get in anchorage, You're like, okay, well I got

589
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 4: to get up there. And they're like, well, let's put

590
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: you in a little bitty plane. And then the plane

591
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 4: lands on a dirt runway and then I'm like, we're

592
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: we there yet, and they're like, no, you got to

593
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Speaker 4: get in the boat. And I'm like, oh man.

594
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Speaker 3: And it's cold when you get up there, right.

595
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Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't. I went. I went when it wasn't cold,

596
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: because I'm smart. But it was wonderful and wet. We

597
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: met the tribal community up there. And of course, the

598
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: point here is that nobody is too far away for

599
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Speaker 4: the president, whether it's in the Black Belt or whether

600
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: it's down in the Delta, or whether it's in a

601
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: tribal community in northern Alaska, which by the way, you

602
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: can actually see Russia from. That's true.

603
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Speaker 1: Actually I feel like if you're stealing somebody else's stick here,

604
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 4: When I was there, I felt bad because I thought

606
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 4: that was a joke. But it actually turns out the

607
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: big clothes. So in any of that, the ability to

608
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: get clean air and clean water to people is critically important.

609
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 4: Now we know about this a lot in the country

610
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Speaker 4: because of what happened in Flint, Michigan, which by the way,

611
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Speaker 4: they're all new piping in Flint, Mishigan. That project is lead.

612
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: Thank god. It took way too long, but the President

613
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 4: the Vice President were able to put in this bill

614
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Speaker 4: fifteen billion dollars to help eradicate all the lead pipes

615
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Speaker 4: in America and I and we're well on the way,

616
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: working with cities and states to get this done. We

617
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: have twelve hundred drinking and wastewater projects, including funding to

618
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: replace hundreds of thousands of lead service lines. So we're

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Speaker 4: on track. But again, this is a hard thing, and

620
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Speaker 4: by the way, it's done by cities and counties. Federal

621
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Speaker 4: government's not doing this work. This money gets pushed down

622
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Speaker 4: to the states, it gets pushed down to the mayor's

623
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Speaker 4: and they have to do the work. And they're in

624
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Speaker 4: the process of doing it as we speak.

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Speaker 3: So interesting, Yeah, crazy, it's a lot of work. Let's

626
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Speaker 3: go to broadbands and.

627
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: When you live through COVID, if you didn't understand it before,

628
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: you understand it now that nothing happened. And if you

629
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: don't have access to knowledge, and the access to knowledge

630
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: is through Internet. And the President made a commitment to

631
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: make sure that everybody in America is stressing everybody is

632
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: going to have access to it. And so that two

633
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: things going on here. One of them is making sure

634
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: that we lay fiber optic cable everywhere in America where

635
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: it is not or some other kind of technology that

636
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: is absolutely necessary, for example at a far away place

637
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: like the Pockeyac if you can't get five of there.

638
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 4: And the second is connecting people who actually have access

639
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: to high speed INNT but can't afford it. So just

640
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: in the past two years, through what they call the

641
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: Affordable Connectivity Program, which you can find that get Internet

642
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: dot go. If you're living at our below two hundred

643
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: percent of the poverty level, you actually can get free

644
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: internet for one hundred bag of bytes per second. And

645
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: we're signed up twenty one million Americans for this project

646
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: is called Internet for all, and we're going to keep

647
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: doing that, and we're going to keep laying fiber op

648
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: to kid. Now, every governor in the state has already

649
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: received what they know is their allocation the federal money

650
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: they're going to get to actually start putting fiber in

651
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Speaker 4: the ground. And you can see that on our website

652
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Speaker 4: invest dot Go as well. And by the way, every

653
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Speaker 4: project in America is on that website. If you want

654
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: to find out what a project is, go on there's

655
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: a map. It's got a bunch of dots on it.

656
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: It looks like a serot painting. You can just push

657
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: the dot and the project will come up and you

658
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: can tell how much it is, where it is. And

659
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Speaker 4: we did that for transparency for the taxpayers of America.

660
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Speaker 4: You know, the governors are in their process of submitting

661
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Speaker 4: their plans to us about where they're going to lay it.

662
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: We're going to say, yes, they're going to get to work.

663
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Speaker 4: But there's already been billions of dollars that have been

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Speaker 4: sent to the states through the Department of Agriculture and

665
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Speaker 4: the Department of Treasury to start a lot of this work.

666
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Speaker 4: And as I said just today, like ten minutes ago,

667
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Speaker 4: I just got off of a press call with Seid

668
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Speaker 4: of the Schumer about a company in Syracuse. It's going

669
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Speaker 4: to manufacture the stuff that you need to put to

670
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: build fiber so you can put it in the ground.

671
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Speaker 4: It's going to create a five hundred plus job, which

672
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Speaker 4: was one of the points of all all of this

673
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: stuff anyway, not just to give people better roads and

674
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Speaker 4: bridges and airports and ports, which are all critical, but

675
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Speaker 4: to build them in a way that created lots of

676
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Speaker 4: high pay of jobs so people could build generation well,

677
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Speaker 4: have some dignity in their life. And by the way,

678
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: use products that have made in America so we can

679
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: rebuild communities that have gotten burnt out from offshore. That

680
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: was President Biden's vision. And the truth of the matter

681
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: is he's bringing receipts. There have been lots of people

682
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Speaker 4: that have been in both public office, some of them

683
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Speaker 4: that sat in the White House that said they did

684
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Speaker 4: things that they didn't do, took credit for stuff that

685
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Speaker 4: they and this president can bring you receipts in chapter

686
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: and verse and instead of just talking about an infrastructure week,

687
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Speaker 4: we're actually in the midst of a massive rebuilding that's

688
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Speaker 4: going to be an infrastructure decade.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what project. Are you the sort of most

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Speaker 1: excited about or what is a project that we don't.

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Speaker 3: Know about that we should know about.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I wouldn't be doing my job

693
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Speaker 4: if you didn't know about it. But the big cathedral projects.

694
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Speaker 4: The bread Spence Bridge is a massive bridge that connects

695
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Speaker 4: Ohio and Kentucky to Red States by the way, that

696
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: carries about three percent of the nation's gross domestic product

697
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: on any given day, moving goods from ships to shelves.

698
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: That project is a really big project that is pretty

699
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: symbolic of what the whole thing is we're doing. I

700
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: don't need to tell you about the symbolism of a bridge,

701
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: but it actually connects people and then it spiritually connects

702
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: people as well. We've put a billion dollars into the

703
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: restoration of the Great Lakes, So if you live anywhere

704
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Speaker 4: in or around that, you understand the significance of that

705
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: a billion dollars into the Everglades. The biggest project really

706
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: is one in New York in the Hudson Tunnel. That's

707
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: the big one. That's the one that is going to

708
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: touch more people than any singular project in the country.

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Speaker 4: We're rebuilding the Frederick Douglass bridge. So if you're coming

710
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: from New York into Washington, d C. And you know

711
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: you kind of heading towards Baltimore, that train slows down

712
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: to thirty miles an hour.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have some experience with that.

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Speaker 4: Well, here you go. Here's how it's going to improve

715
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: your life. You're going to have to do your homework

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00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: faster because that's trying to go one hundred and ten

717
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: miles an hour, not thirty around that turn turn running

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Speaker 4: into that. But then, and let me just say this,

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Speaker 4: those are big, big, big. There are some small projects

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Speaker 4: that are exciting, like making sure that we get into

721
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Speaker 4: a plumbing two folks in Lowndes County, Alabama, or you

722
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: meet somebody like Diana Branch and are two kids eight

723
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: in Jada in Milwaukee that make sure they've got to

724
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: have clean water and you see their faces. Are the

725
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: guy named Walter who was a tribal leader up into

726
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: Pockiac who we met. Or a guy named Slim if

727
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: you can believe this, who is the mayor of a

728
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: small town in New Mexico called Hatch, which by the way,

729
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: has the best chili in the world, who really is

730
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: concerned because it's flooding too much. To me, those are

731
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: the things because that President Biden said, look, we got

732
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: to see everybody. This is really easy, you guys. If

733
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: we can do things together, we can do big things.

734
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Speaker 4: If we can't do big things together, we can't do anything.

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, don't leave anybody behind. So Mitch,

736
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Speaker 4: get your butt out there and go find these people

737
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Speaker 4: and talk to them and make sure that they're involved

738
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Speaker 4: in the work that we do on And for me,

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Speaker 4: that's been the most uplifting part of this entire process.

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Speaker 1: What do things look like now from this point on,

741
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Speaker 1: is just watching these things get finished?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. You got to first of all,

743
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: remember when we started, I said, we haven't done something

744
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Speaker 4: this big in a long long time. And so from

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Speaker 4: my perspective as a mayor, which is a more of

746
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: a not what you want to do, but how to

747
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: do stuff job kind of where the pedal hits the

748
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: metal or the rubber wrists the road. You got to

749
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Speaker 4: get stuff done. You have to set up what I

750
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: call a mouse trap or scaffolding. You got to make

751
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 4: sure the federal government and all the cabinet secretaries are

752
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: working together. You got to make sure they're working every

753
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: day with the governors. The governor's cabinets have to be

754
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: working together. You've got to be working with the mayor's

755
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: you got to be working the community leaders. That takes

756
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: a lot of work. If you ever raise a lot

757
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: of kids, you kind of understand what I'm saying here

758
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: where you got to get everybody dressed at the same time,

759
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: because I got five kids and I had four of

760
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: them in different schools, and you got to know what

761
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: you're on, on what you're doing, or you lose a kid

762
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Speaker 4: like in the parking lot, that's not a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have some experience with this.

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Speaker 4: So in other words, if you can think about how

765
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 4: to herd cats, you have to do that every day,

766
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: all day to make sure one of the kids running

767
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: the street all right. So you can put some technical

768
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: language around all of that, but it's about what I

769
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: call horizontal and vertical integration across federal, state, and local authorities,

770
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: both horizonally and vertically. And that is the team of

771
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: people that have to get stuffed doune of it. They're

772
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: not communicating, collaborating, coordinating every day, then you're not. Nothing's happened.

773
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: So that's important we do that every day. It's like

774
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: running drills, running stadium steps. We work on that. The

775
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: second part is, okay, well, if that team's ready to go,

776
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: they got they can't do anything and they don't have

777
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: the money. So you got to get the money out

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Speaker 4: the door. And in order to do this in a

779
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: transparent way where we do these projects on time and

780
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: on task, on budget, with no wayte fraud and abuse,

781
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: you've got to make sure that the applications are good,

782
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: that they're smart, that if you give these folks money,

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Speaker 4: they'll actually be able to make it happen. Then you've

784
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: got to get the money to them, and the money

785
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: gets them in two ways. Some of the money goes

786
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: straight to the governors, and then some of the money

787
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: you have to apply for that goes to the mayors

788
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: and the county executives. So you got to run that

789
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: whole process. And then the third thing you got to

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00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: do is what you and I had done today, which

791
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: is telling people about it so they know it's coming.

792
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: They can kind of check on how we're doing. Pick

793
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: us in the butt when we're not doing it the

794
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: right way, demand that we go faster, and then when

795
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: it looks good, say, oh my god, I love that.

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 4: Can we have more of it, and so that's it,

797
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: and so that requires nurturing every day. I do think

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: that we are organizationally in a much better place. The

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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: country's going to be learning now how to build big

800
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: things again. We have to prove its people because nobody

801
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: believed that we can do it. And I'm just really

802
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 4: hopeful that as we go forward in the country. Remember

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00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: we only end this two years. It takes a long

804
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: time to build a strong foundation that can't ever be reversed,

805
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: and so we're in the early stages of that and

806
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: a lot more work to do, and we're at the

807
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: point where as my grandma would say, she would say,

808
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: it needs a lot of elbow grease. You gotta work it.

809
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: I call it the hard work of governing well and

810
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 4: demanding that people get off of their high horse and

811
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Speaker 4: quit arguing about extremes and get focused on the thing

812
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: that we all care about, which is a road, filling

813
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: the damn pothole, getting home as fast as we can

814
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: so we can do homework with our kids, to do

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: the things that people need to do in a way

816
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: that makes our lives easier. And that's what the presidents

817
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: wanted to do from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Mitch Landrew, thank you, thank thank you.

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Speaker 4: We thank you for everything. I appreciate it. You take care,

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: you two.

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Speaker 1: Danielle Nickinyon is editor in chief and founder of Bolts magazine.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Too Fast Politics. Daniel Thank you so much. You

823
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Speaker 3: are here.

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Speaker 1: Because you are the editor of this very good magazine

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00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: called Bolts. It does local elections, but on a micro level.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think the goal is to connect these local

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00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 6: indued elections with all the issues that readers' voters would

829
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: care about and would look at Washington Floor usually, but

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Speaker 6: in fact it's also happening, you know, at the county level,

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Speaker 6: at the municipal level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this is something I'm very interested in, and we

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Speaker 1: should all be interested in what's happening on the local

835
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: level because ultimately it has enormous national implications, as we've

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Speaker 1: seen again and again. So I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you first. We're going to talk about an election that

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Speaker 1: no one has heard about.

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Speaker 3: To accept you and people who live in Pennsylvania, the

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00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania judiciary elections, because there were three judges elected in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Tell us a backstory. Explain to us the situation.

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Speaker 5: Right, So, Pennsylvania was the only state last week that

843
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 5: was holding elections for its for its court system. You know,

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: in a lot of the country judges are elected, not everywhere,

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Speaker 5: but in most places. Obviously, Pennsylvania really is the swing

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Speaker 5: state I think, I would say for twenty twenty four

847
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 5: to watch. You know, it really is so important for

848
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Speaker 5: deciding the presidential race.

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Speaker 3: You really think that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Pennsylvania is sort of like largely blue

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Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it is such a huge part

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Speaker 5: of the blue wall that if Democrats exactly Democrats kind

854
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: of secure Pennsylvania, they don't need that much more or

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00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 5: all of the other states Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada, Wisconsin ate,

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00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: they only at that point really need one perhaps, which

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: which is a big, big style. But Pennsylvania really is essential,

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Speaker 5: and I think Mali very importantly. It is the state

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Speaker 5: in twenty two that Trump kept trying to go after

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Speaker 5: in the court system. You know, he kept filing all

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Speaker 5: these lawsuits in Pennsylvania. Obviously did it everywhere, but Pennsylvania

862
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Speaker 5: was arguably the state that sought the most lawsuits, and

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Speaker 5: a lot of these lawsuits went to die in the

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Speaker 5: state Supreme Court. In November December twenty twenty and what

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Speaker 5: one of the seats was empty on This was vacant

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Speaker 5: because a Democrat had passed away last year, and that's

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Speaker 5: the seat that voters in Pennsylvania were going to sail.

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Speaker 5: So Democrats were sure to keep the majority. On the

869
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: corporate matter of the result, it was in me five

870
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: two or four to three. But there have been instances

871
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: on this court that things don't exactly go according to

872
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: party line, and especially when it comes to mail voting.

873
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: There's been so many cases in recent years in Pennsylvania

874
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 5: around whether mail ballots should be tossed, should be counted.

875
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 5: We're talking about an advocate in Pennsylvania told me tens

876
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: or thousands of bad ballots could be affected in twenty

877
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: twenty four depending on the result of this election. So

878
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: all of these have made it very important for just

879
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: voting rights. I'm not even going to go into all

880
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 5: the other issues that are important. And Democrats won that seat.

881
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 5: They won all three, right, there were actually four to

882
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 5: judge SIPs on the ballot, so there was one for

883
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: Supreme Court and then there were three for intermediate courts

884
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 5: that are right below the Supreme Court. Democrats swept all

885
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 5: four and they actually flipped what's called the Superior Court

886
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: of Pennsylvania, which is right below the Supreme Court. A

887
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: lot of cases that end up in the Supreme Court

888
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: go through it, so obviously it's very important that that

889
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: cases be be prepped for a side or on the

890
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 5: other on lower courts. And what's really interesting is that

891
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: it's not at all usual for Democrats to sweep these

892
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: down ballot elections on an off year. In twenty twenty one,

893
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: Republicans that very well in judge elections in Pennsylvania. Those

894
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 5: are not years where Democrats usually are eager to go vote.

895
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 5: So this was very yeah election results.

896
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: Do you think that.

897
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: Speaks to a Democratic electorate that is enthusiastic about the voting.

898
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: I mean to look at Pennsylvania specifically, I think definitely,

899
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: because you saw that same pattern County, per County. You

900
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 5: saw Democrats do very well in Pennsylvania. So they really

901
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 5: kept control of the suburban areas of Pennsylvania. They even

902
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 5: flipped the new Republican areas blue, and in place after place,

903
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: there was heavier enthusiasm and turnout in blue areas than

904
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: there was elsewhere. So for instance, and in Philly, the

905
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 5: electorate was a third higher than twenty twenty one, whereas

906
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 5: in the state at large only ten percent higher. Now

907
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 5: that's not going to exactly hold into twenty twenty four,

908
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: but in vacations definitely are that Dobbs, Trump's comeback and

909
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: a bunch of factors have really energized the base of

910
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 5: Democratic Party.

911
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm thinking about this is because and

912
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: now we're going to go to Kentucky in this Kentucky

913
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: gubernatorial so there were two off your Googer tutorials. And

914
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: in Mississippi, obviously that was a little bit different circumstances.

915
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: It's very red state.

916
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: There was sort of a hope that Brandon Presley could

917
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: break through what is a very whatever an R plus

918
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, very high numbers twenty thirty forty, but

919
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to.

920
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: But in Kentucky, one of the things.

921
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: We saw Burscher grew his electoral margins, he won by

922
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: even more, and he ran on abortion unapologetically. But the

923
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: point I wanted to make was that Republicans had a

924
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: real turnout problem in Kentucky.

925
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: Can you talk about that.

926
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 5: We saw the same pattern in Kentucky as we saw

927
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: in other states. I discussing Republican parts of the state

928
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 5: just didn't turn out as much as they should have

929
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: for the Republican to have a strong chance.

930
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: You know.

931
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: One a little addendem to this as well in Kentucky

932
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: is that the governor of Kentucky was a Democrat. When

933
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: he came into office in twenty nineteen, he did a

934
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 5: couple of things. One, he signed an executive order that

935
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: restored the voting rates of about five percent of residents

936
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 5: of the state. Just got their voting rights back, just

937
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: like that, with one stroke of the pen of the governor.

938
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: And there was a lot of efforts by organizers this

939
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: year by bye, by people who used to be in

940
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 5: prison and have regained their rights to reach out to

941
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: people who informed people and get them to Tornado as well.

942
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: And the other other is that there was an alliance

943
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: between the governor Bashir and the Republican and some Republicans

944
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: to make it easier to vote by mail, to make

945
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: it easier to vote in some ways. And you know

946
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: that there were efforts done by Democrats with some alliance

947
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: with says as centrist Republicans to make it easier to vote.

948
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: So it's a little too early to tell, you know

949
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: what produced what effects last week. But those things aren't random.

950
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 5: They were definitely efforts by Democrats, even in the state

951
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 5: like Kentucky, which is very difficult for them to make

952
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: voting voting easier last week.

953
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a really interesting situation because you really

954
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: do have a red state with a governor who grew

955
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: his margins and also ran on choice. Let's look at Virginia,

956
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: because Virginia is so interesting to me. My opinion was

957
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: I was very worried about Virginia because I had seen

958
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, Virginia is a purple state. It's maybe getting

959
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more blue. But I really thought young

960
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: Kin he puts.

961
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: On that vest.

962
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: He says some stuff that sounds like a moderate. Remember

963
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: that fifteen week ban had been very well tested, right, Like,

964
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: this guy sticks to his talking points.

965
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: He's not like Trump. He goes out.

966
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: There, he says, I'm you know, give me the legislature

967
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: and I will enact this very well polled fifteen week

968
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: abortion man, which was really made in a lab to

969
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: appeal to moderates. And he couldn't do it. If anything,

970
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: he lost the other chamber.

971
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: Talk to me about that, No, I mean, you're absolutely

972
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: right that Governor. Youngkin put a huge effort into recruiting

973
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: into this new vision of the Repulican Party that he

974
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 5: thought he was building on the backs of like very

975
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: conservative policies, Like he went out and said that he

976
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 5: will introduce new restrictions on abortions and was hoping that

977
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: that message would make him seem like a centrist, which

978
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: is a bit odd and didn't work at the polls

979
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 5: because it was odd he was going out and saying actively,

980
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: I'm going to make abortion on an issue. If you

981
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: give me power, I'm going to use new restrictions. But

982
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: that's a compromise position, so obviously there was something here

983
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 5: that didn't quite add up. But you're right, Ted, it

984
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: was very suspenseful, right.

985
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: At least like he's a little bit disciplined, whereas Republicans

986
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: usually have like Trumps.

987
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: No, definitely, But I think one thing that's important to

988
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: remember is that his own election in twenty twenty one,

989
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: the story behind it and was that there was a

990
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: lot of anger around schools and rental choice in twenty

991
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: twenty one.

992
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: Really peak COVID education fuckery.

993
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 5: There was this idea by young Kin that the cultural

994
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 5: wars are going to help him, which actually we saw

995
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: not not just so Republicans failed to flip the state Senate,

996
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: the actually lost the state House in Virginia, but we

997
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: also saw similar results if you go further down, were

998
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 5: school board elections did not go well for conservatives last

999
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: week in Virginia. They were trying to overtake a bunch

1000
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: of suburban school boards, really increased the presence of Moms

1001
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 5: for Liberty, book bands, and all these issues that were

1002
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 5: supposed to have been central in twenty twenty one, and

1003
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: that also failed. You know, so I think if you

1004
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: combine the abortion result and the school board result again,

1005
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 5: what we see the same thing as we saw in Pennsylvania,

1006
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: where the left side of the spectrum was there and

1007
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 5: did not want the book bands, did not want abortion restrictions,

1008
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: and showed that itself is not going to sleep through

1009
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: these issues.

1010
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Moms for Liberty, because this is

1011
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: a fascinating little bit of fuckery. Republicans got very excited

1012
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: that COVID restrictions were going to lead to school choice,

1013
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: which is going to lead to book bands, which was

1014
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: going to lead to them taking over the world.

1015
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: Moms for Liberty, you know, they sort.

1016
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: Of got the most crazy people they could find it

1017
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: didn't work for them, did it.

1018
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: This is so important to follow because my Momum's Liberty

1019
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 5: has this sort of smart underd rat or strategy for

1020
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 5: their purposes of going in at the last minute and

1021
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 5: endorsing candidates in the final week seven elections. And it's

1022
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 5: very hard. There were so many elections for school board, Molly,

1023
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 5: We're talking about hundreds in the state.

1024
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: It seems like a nightmare. Yeah, to keep track of on.

1025
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: A given day. There were one hundreds in many states

1026
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 5: at once. It's very hard to keep track of, including

1027
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 5: for local media, because the candidates are very good at

1028
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 5: not necessarily saying what they think until there, like self,

1029
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 5: last endorsement at the last minute.

1030
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: It's very misleading, right, the idea is I love normal,

1031
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: but that at the last minute they're like, yes, I'm crazy.

1032
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: And what we saw this year on like priories, is

1033
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: there was much more effort on the other side against

1034
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: Mom's Liberty to put the spotlight on people before even

1035
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: they had the chance to do their play. And what

1036
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 5: we saw in the result obviously there's so many elections

1037
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 5: that of course Conservatives won some school boards. They want

1038
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 5: some seats that are important, but overall, in so many states,

1039
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: the slates for candidates for conservative school board candidates did

1040
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: very poorly.

1041
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: And I think.

1042
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 5: Wherever you are listening to this, you you can go

1043
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 5: online and search for your own state. And you know,

1044
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: I was just yesterday reading articles on Kansas, on Iowa,

1045
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 5: so not you know, we're not We're not talking about

1046
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 5: loose states here. We're talking about states where the cultural

1047
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 5: wars are supposed to be very important, and overall, conservative

1048
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: slates did very poorly. I think the epicenter of this

1049
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: was in suburban Philly. There were school boards that had

1050
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 5: already been or overtaken by by by the right in

1051
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: recent years, and that we're reading the headlines for policies

1052
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: on book bands, policies on transgender students, especially in Bucks County,

1053
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: which is a very large suburban county in Philly. These

1054
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 5: these two school boards slipped back away from conservatives. So

1055
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 5: you know, those are a very important election. We're talking

1056
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: about so many students who are going to be affected.

1057
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: I want you to.

1058
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Talk for a minute about trans panic, because this is

1059
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: an amazing thing that Republicans ran on. They basically decided

1060
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: that parents would and again this was based on some

1061
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: polling which is why I think we should all remember

1062
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: that polls are not necessarily the best indicator that parents

1063
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: really got upset if their kid was doing sports against

1064
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: a kid which they where they felt their gender was

1065
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: giving them an advantage, that they thought they could win

1066
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: elections on that and they did not.

1067
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was always kind of skeptical of

1068
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 5: that narrative because sort of the first big national moment

1069
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: where these issues, you know, captured the national imagination was

1070
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 5: a law in North Carolina about seven eight years ago.

1071
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 5: Now that was the bathroom Billy had got a lot

1072
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: of attention. The governor lost the following year, not to

1073
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 5: say that that is why he lost exclusively, but Hueenly

1074
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: became the embottom and of that issue. There was a

1075
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 5: lot of business backlash at the time. A lot of

1076
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 5: businesses left the state and that was definitely a big issue.

1077
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 5: And in a good year in twenty sixteen, that Republican

1078
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 5: governor lost the election, and I think we saw the

1079
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 5: same It's so easy to I think when the media

1080
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: expects that something is true, like when you expect that

1081
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 5: there will be a backlash against tread treat trans rights,

1082
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: or when there will be a backlash against reformation of

1083
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 5: a crual justice reforms. Any example of that backlash then.

1084
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: Becomes confirmation bias.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it becomes a momage, right, it becomes gospel, and

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Speaker 5: then it becomes used in every story as, oh, you

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Speaker 5: know that that famous election, And I think that's sort

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Speaker 5: of what we saw in twenty twenty one around those issues,

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Speaker 5: when in fact, what we're seeing, I think in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty three, which is reassuring on the issue of trends rights,

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Speaker 5: that it's not just that people are at best indifferent

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Speaker 5: towards the rights of trans people. But there again, they

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Speaker 5: were definitely organizing in the school board elections, people who

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Speaker 5: came together, formed slates of candidates, campaigned in their communities

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Speaker 5: on this issue and wanting to protect the rights of transtudents.

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Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of dumb Republican issues, but

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Speaker 1: this one happens to also be deeply cruel and evil,

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Speaker 1: and so that's why I wanted to bring it up.

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Speaker 1: You know, the gas stoves also didn't work, but people

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Speaker 1: aren't necessarily affected by an obsession with gas stoves the

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Speaker 1: way that children are affected by being targeted by Republican politicians.

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Speaker 5: With the new Speaker of the House who are a

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Speaker 5: very anti gay agenda and hi gay past. You know,

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Speaker 5: at this point Republican Party is going to bring back

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Speaker 5: anti game measures of all sorts that really go beyond

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Speaker 5: the trans rights and trans Americans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that will be a real disaster, which for them electorally,

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Speaker 1: which will be well deserved, so because they've done it

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Speaker 1: to themselves. The Virginia races were quite expensive, really you

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Speaker 1: know important If Democrats were to sort of take a

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Speaker 1: message from those races, what do you think it is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it seems like the one message that our

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Speaker 5: guys are getting out of every election for the past

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Speaker 5: twelve month is that abortion is very important to people.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think there was this I think there was a

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Speaker 5: fear on a part of people who you know, were

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Speaker 5: very worried about Dobbs that just by virtue the fact

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Speaker 5: that twenty twenty two was a midterm with the Democratic president,

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Speaker 5: that Republicans would just happened to do well because that's

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Speaker 5: what happens on the midterm, and then they'd be this

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Speaker 5: like story that forever that that Dobbs didn't create a

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Speaker 5: backlash and that would be there bad for abortion policy. Instead,

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Speaker 5: what we've seen in every election in the midterms, in

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Speaker 5: the Wisconsin elections in April last week, that abortions is

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Speaker 5: really on Deepo's mind, and that is true in places

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Speaker 5: that have abortion bans, and that is true in places

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Speaker 5: that where the abortion ban is a threat that obviously

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Speaker 5: could come in the future, and that is going to

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Speaker 5: be the messaging that the Democrats are going to continue using.

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Speaker 5: Another messaging lesson is that in Virginia and in Kentucky,

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Speaker 5: Republicans were very again like last year, messaging around the

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Speaker 5: issue of crime, and they were trying to put the

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Speaker 5: blame on rising crime rates on on Democrats. Echrinal justice

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Speaker 5: reforms that in some places aren't even like Kentucky, haven't

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Speaker 5: even been a big a big storyline and that and

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Speaker 5: Democrats are sometimes a bit defensive on it, but sometimes not.

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Speaker 5: And in fact, in Virginia right now, the new speaker

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Speaker 5: of the Virginia House was going to be incoming is

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Speaker 5: someone who had a criminal record himself and in the past.

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Speaker 5: So it's interesting to see that that that that issue

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Speaker 5: also isn't playing out the way that Republicans were expecting

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Speaker 5: it to.

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Speaker 3: So interesting. Taniel, I hope you'll come back, of course whenever.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: No moment, Jesse Cannon.

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Speaker 7: Molly drunk Fast. I'm going to tell you I had

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Speaker 7: to like look up if there was a full moon

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Speaker 7: and people were turning into werewolves. Because the fighting in

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Speaker 7: Congress today was out of hand. Every hour or there

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Speaker 7: was something new.

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Speaker 1: So it was a normal Tuesday on Capitol Hill. McCarthy

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Speaker 1: shoved but later denied it. Congressman Burchett in the hallway,

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Speaker 1: Senator Mullin, who was an MMA fighter who knew tried

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Speaker 1: to fight Teamster. President Sean O'Brien Comer called Congressman Moscow,

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Speaker 1: it's a liar and a smurf, and then MTG said

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Speaker 1: that darryl Isa lacked mail anatomy. Congratulations Republicans. We were

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Speaker 1: told that Trump is a doesn't scale. We were in

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Speaker 1: fact wrong. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics.

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Speaker 1: Tune in every Monday, Wednesday and Friday to hear the

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