1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,199 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcast. Oh and we got some great stories 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: My boss shared confidential information with me in it unknowingly 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: spread out. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 3: Who leaked it? 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: So this happened today and I really need to get 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: it all out because I am honestly anxious about going 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: into work tomorrow. I twenties female, have a bad history 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: with my coworker, who I will call Jess's thirties female. 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Jess has always been unprofessional and erratic. Everybody knows this 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: about her. She also does not like me for reasons 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: I genuinely do not understand. By the way, this comes 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: from original throwaway and if you want to submit your 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: I am Savannah, I'm Sophia, I'm Curly, and we are 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: here to give good advice. Goofly, But obviously we don't 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We just know what we would 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: do in this situation, but we would love to know 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments. As Peace says, 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: our manager has been trying to put an end to 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: gossip and drama since she started with the business about 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: six months ago. I thought I had a decent relationship 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: with my boss, forties female, but lately things have felt strained. Yesterday, 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: I had a meeting with my boss regarding a change 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: at work. This change would affect another coworker, Sarah. During 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: the meeting, my boss specifically asked me not to discuss 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: the change with anyone. Yet I did not say anything 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: at all to anybody. You would just have to believe me, 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: which is why I am so nervous about this entire situation. Today, 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: my boss called me into her office and aggressively accused 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: me of telling Jess about the change. Apparently, Jess then 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: told Sarah about it, and Sarah was extremely upset. Jess 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: also told my boss that I was the one who 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: told her this information. Whoa spreading lies about you? 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: What dreading lies about you? 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Like I said? My boss was aggressive and continued accusing 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: me even after I denied it. I refused to take 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: responsibility for something I did not do. I am terrified 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: of the fallout from this, especially because it is something 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: I had no part in. I do not know how 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: Jess found out about the change and frankly, I do 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: not care. I do not want to be involved in 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: any of this. This kind of thing has been happening 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: for months now. I just want to go to work, 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: do my job, and come home. What do I do now? 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: And there's comments, I'd go for the truth and show 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: respect and calmness while talking, even though people won't believe it. 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: OPI responds, I'm mostly concerned about potentially being written up 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: over the situation. Rod fifty seven says, sounds like you 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: work with a bunch of kids, including your boss. Opie responds, 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: that's certainly how it feels. I am job hunting and 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: have some promising leads, but I want to preserve this 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: in the meantime because I work for a great international company. 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: New Life C. 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: Thirteen says, I'm sorry that you're in an uncomfortable situation. 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I know you told me about admin change and confidence, 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: and I did not say anything to anyone, including Jess. 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't know why she would lie, but I have 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: behaved with integrity here. Maybe you say otherwise or stay 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: something incorrect rather than lie. Lie is a bit of 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: an aggressive accusation. OPI responds, I told boss yesterday. I 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: don't know how Jess found out, but I did not 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: tell her. She did not tell you the truth deleted 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: says I know this probably isn't helpful, but why did 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 2: your boss tell you about the change before he told 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: the employee that it affects I don't understand that part 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: of it. 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: I was thinking that too. 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: All you can do is be honest and stand your ground, really, 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: OPI responds, boss told me about change because I requested 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: it in a private meeting with her the day before. 74 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Natalie twenty seven twenty seven says, it's my guess that 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: someone was listening at the door when your boss told 76 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: you about the change, then blamed you for telling LSD 77 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: saved my life, said, or maybe they were guessing. The 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: term i've heard is throwing crap at a wall and 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: seeing what sticks. It could be that the drama queen 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: just decided just guessed what was going on, and once 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: she got some feedback for it, she ran with it, 82 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: and OPI is now. 83 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: Getting blamed for it. 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: I cannot stand that type of person. I have worked 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: with a few, and they are the worst type of 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: people on this planet. It's a shame management doesn't see that. 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: OPI responds. Both of these would be very likely Jess 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: was sitting on the floor across the hall when I 89 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: was told about the change. 90 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay, then yeah, I would just say, hey, like, is 91 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: there any chance that she just heard overheard this? Because 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: I did not tell her. 93 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: It's the fact that she was sitting on the floor. 94 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: That's what really gets. Why is she sitting on the floor. 95 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: Don't they have chairs in this office? 96 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: No, she's sitting on the floor. 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: In the hallway. 99 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah some floor time. 100 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: It's completely changed. Okay, you're right, you're right, Sorry for 101 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: you floor. 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: We had a couple of days in my last job 103 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: where we would lay on the floor with our feet 104 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 5: up against the wall. 105 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: And that's nice, good for you, it is. It gets 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: all the blood flowing. But there were two closed doors 107 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: between us, so I'm not sure. Oh there's an update. 108 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Oh boy, should we just go Let's go into it. 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: I need to know how she found out, what's gonna happen. 110 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: I think OP just needs to tell boss I didn't 111 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: do it. 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: You don't have moo. 113 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Weeks later, Oh, my original post got more attention than 114 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I was expecting and helped me realize I need to 115 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: get serious about finding a new job. I took a 116 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: long weekend vacation and came back home prepared to quit 117 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: job or no job. Luckily, the day after I got 118 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: back from my trip, I interviewed and accepted a new job. 119 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to work in a new department and 120 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: I'll be working at a nonprofit. 121 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: Okay, seems like the quitting seems like that way the 122 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: boss did, Dad listen, I don't like nonprofits? 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: What? 124 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh, that's what the BOS was for. 125 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I've worked with a bunch of different nonprofits and 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: I have just never liked them. 127 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: It's just like, I feel like you should say, like 128 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: you like nonprofits in terms of they were Yeah, I 129 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: don't profits. 130 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't like working at a nonprofit. It's really hard 131 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: to like figure everything out because like you can't take 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: funding and you can't do it's like so much work 133 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: and you're like, we just need to figure out what 134 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: to do with zero money. And then gets people to 135 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: do stuff for us, and it's just like getting a 136 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: lot of people involved and a lot of people are 137 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: like I'm not getting anything out of it, huh, And 138 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: then they're like, uh yeah, it's just like it's a 139 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: whole new world. But I hope this nonprofit's good. As 140 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: for my other job. I gave my two week notice. 141 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: I very professionally and unemotionally told our HR rep what 142 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: happened when I quit. I told him that I loved 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: working for the company and hoped to come back to 144 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: the company in another location. Sub day afterwards, I gave 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: my notice to my boss. She was very happy to 146 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: see me leave and handle it professionally until the HR 147 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: rep told her what I said. My schedule was completely cut. 148 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: I have two days left and then I have a 149 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: fourteen day gap between employment. WHOA Also turns out the 150 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: company wide surveys went out today. I'm going to really 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: enjoy filling it out. 152 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: It goes to my. 153 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Boss's boss's boss, boss's bosses, a lot of that's a 154 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: lot of different people, a lot of boss It goes 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: through and is completely anonymous. Well, I would think. 156 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: If you gave a really yeah, they're like this boss 157 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: was really terrible about handling a situation where someone accuses 158 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: you of doing something and you didn't do it and 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: they don't believe you. 160 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: The thing is, she doesn't have to go out. She 161 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: just just bored. You're just a bored donut. 162 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: Get over yourself. 163 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 164 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're so cute. I can't you anyway? Top 165 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: comments Jixi one says in the US, if you give 166 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: two weeks notice and they tell you to leave earlier, 167 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: then they have to legally pay you for two weeks. 168 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: Make sure you get your money. 169 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Opie says, I'm an at will hourly employee, so I 170 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: don't think I qualify Annett Exyz. 171 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: If you are at a place where you're on salary 172 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: and you give your two weeks and they say we 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: don't want you to work those two weeks, then yeah, 174 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: they have to pay you. 175 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes you do. 176 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: What did HR say about them cutting off your hours? 177 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: You told them right, Opie says, what would I even say? 178 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't find any sources online, But as far as 179 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: I understood, I could be wrong. A two week notice 180 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: is notification of immediate resignation, but the two weeks is 181 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: a courtesy and the only way to be considered eligible 182 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: for rehire in most places. 183 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 184 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: Insane one of them. 185 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: I heard about it. There is a way where if 186 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: you quit. 187 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: You're not getting that no matter how long they ask 188 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: you to work or not work. That could be state 189 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: to state, though but I know that some states for 190 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: sure if you quit and they're like, you can just leave. 191 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 5: Actually they don't owe you anything. 192 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Hmmm interesting, too many aunts comments. You can get unemployment 193 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: for those two weeks, but that's about it. 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 195 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: OK, that's true, that's what you can do, but that 196 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: also takes five years. 197 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: Opie response. 198 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: I am financially stable enough to not need assistance at 199 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: this time, but thank you for letting me know my options. 200 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Extra catchup. Thanks, responds. You might consider going for it anyway. 201 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: You never know what emergency may come up and wipe 202 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: your savings. You already pay into this assistance every paycheck 203 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: you have ever worked. If you do not end up 204 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: needing it by the time your next job begins and 205 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: you receive your first paycheck, you can donate it if 206 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: you like, but do consider that this is assistance you 207 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: currently have paid in for and are entitled to take. 208 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: It only hurts when you don't do it. Opi responds, Okay, 209 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: so I did a little research and for my state, 210 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: it says that I qualify if I quit and my 211 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: hours are reduced by more than twenty five percent. They 212 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: have I just don't want to have to work the 213 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: last two weeks out, so I'm not sure if I 214 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: should mention this to HR in hopes that they will 215 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: simply schedule me again. 216 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: Extra Ketchup replies. 217 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: If it were me, I would tell HR anyway so 218 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: they know what kind of manager they have. Did she 219 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: change the schedule or just not schedule you the normal hours? 220 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Not sure if it matters at the company, but is 221 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: curious if you'd be willing to work new shifts that 222 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: would obviously be awkward and it would get you more money, 223 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: then I would definitely talk to HR about how you 224 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: qualify given the hour situation, OPI responds. Yearly employee surveys 225 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: that go to the district manager of the branch just 226 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 2: went out today, smiley face with a weird nose. I 227 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: don't like the smiley faces with the noses. Sorry, they 228 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: will definitely hear about what kind of person is running 229 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: the place. 230 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: I think it's probably best that you do not wear 231 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: keyar anymore. 232 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well, yeah, it's just like it sucks. Yeah, 233 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: you didn't do anything wrong exactly, like you didn't even 234 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: like do anything, so it like, you know, they're just 235 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: going off of this girl's word, I guess, but I 236 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: feel like it's also the manager or the boss's fault 237 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: for like telling another employee about something that's going to 238 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: affect someone when not telling the person that it actually affects. Yeah, 239 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: that was weird and just be like, hey, don't say anything, 240 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: but this is happening, Like why if you're not if 241 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: you're not involved, like I would understand. If you're involved 242 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: in it, then yeah, then you have to know. 243 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: But like I don't know. It's kind of weird. 244 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a management issue, especially just seeing how 245 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: they handled it was pretty unprofessional. 246 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, more comments observe it. But Rakuda says, I 247 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: would tell HR, and I would apply for unemployment. What 248 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: your boss did was retaliation and it's illegal. This is 249 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: the kind of thing HR is intended to handle. You 250 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: pay into the UI system, take it without guilt. Don't 251 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: ask for more hours, although if they offer and you 252 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: turn them down, you might lose the unemployment benefits. Don't 253 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: forget to leave a review on glassdoor. 254 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: It's like an employment website. 255 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Op responds, I decided that on my last day tomorrow, 256 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: I am going to file unemployment and I am going 257 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: to submit a complaint on our corporation's ethics line for retaliation, 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: it goes to the HR representatives manager, who is off 259 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: property and has to investigate all claims. I'm not going 260 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: to talk to HR because they have made themselves very 261 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: clearly unhelpful. Oh and that's the end of that story. 262 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: I accidentally offended a sensitive coworker and. 263 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: It's been awkward ever since. 264 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Please, you've got to tell me that accident. 265 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: He is in his sixties. I'll call him Rick. He's 266 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: really bad at his job. He knows it too. The 267 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: job requires a lot of movement which you cannot keep 268 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: up with, and a lot of knowledge of nuanced situation 269 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: which he cannot keep straight. By the way, this comes 270 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 3: from Rude Different sixty nine ninety six. And if you 271 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: want to sumit your own stories, go to the r 272 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime suburt it. 273 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia and I'm Savannah, I'm Carly, and we're. 274 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: Here to give good advice. Goofy, but we don't have 275 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: all the answers. We only know what we do, So 276 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 3: let us know what you do. In the comments, and 277 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: Op says his training was one week long, an absolute garbage. 278 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: I know this because I was trained the week prior. 279 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: The difference is that I am not new to this field, 280 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: so I already know what I was doing. The trainer 281 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: did not train worth a daying and I had to 282 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: fill in my own knowledge gaps. After one week of 283 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: on the job training, you are supposedly good to go 284 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: with zero aptitude tests to see what you actually retained. 285 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: Rick retained nothing. Not a good start. Rick and I 286 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: work alone on site together four out of five work days. 287 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: I've been helping him constantly. I created a flow chart 288 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: style walkthrough for him, which he does not use. We've 289 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: also worked through real situations together so he could get 290 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: a feel for the job. I would say I have 291 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: helped him a lot. I would also say he is 292 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: still not getting much of it. After more than a month. 293 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: I have taken him from zero percent to maybe twenty percent. 294 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: He has a long way to go. Easily the most 295 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: frustrating work partner I've ever had, and I have been 296 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: extremely patient because he is incredibly sensitive. At one point, 297 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: he accused me of jumping down his throat when I 298 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: firmly explained that he had messed up again for the 299 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: twelfth time that day and needed to slow down and 300 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: review his work before confidently hitting enter on mistakes. He 301 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: responded by throwing a tantrum, classic rick. He became starky, uncooperative, 302 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: and a distraction, mumbling grumpily about this and that while 303 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: I handled my workload. Despite all of this, he is 304 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: very appreciative of the help I give him. Almost daily 305 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: he brings me a snack as a thank you, usually 306 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: a candy bar. I welcomed it because it was nice, 307 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: and I understood that he was grateful. I had been 308 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: working twice as hard to cover for him and train him, 309 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: so it felt that he recognized it. I did make 310 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: it clear that it was unnecessary, but it seemed to 311 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: bring him joy. Every time he hands me something, he 312 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: says it's the one thing he can do right. Because 313 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: we work together so much, we have gotten to know 314 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 3: each other. We share some life and interests. He often 315 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: wants me to watch, listen to, or read things he 316 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: likes so we can talk about them. He was never married, 317 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 3: has no kids, is no contact with his family, and 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: barely tolerates people in general. But he took a liking 319 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: to me. I honestly worry that I am one of 320 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: his main outlets. 321 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: I appreciate his. 322 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Enthusiasm but I do not share his interests. When he 323 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: found out that a movie he considers an all time 324 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: stable was available to rent for three dollars, he tried 325 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 3: to give me five dollars to watch it. I declined, 326 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: what getting paid to watch a movie? 327 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: You declined? 328 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: Decline, I'd be like, thanks, Rick, talk next week. 329 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: Talking money like that made me feel extremely uncomfortable. He 330 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: was visibly upset. Wait what, I'm confused? Why did that 331 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: make you uncomfortable? He was like, Hey, if I pay 332 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: you five bucks, will you please watch this movie that 333 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: I love? That's really sweet? 334 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, people are just weird with money talk. 335 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: That's I don't know that one's like really weird. No, 336 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: it's definitely weird. 337 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of that got passed down 338 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: from par that we're uncomfortable with. 339 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that one. That one's not even 340 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: like how much money do you make? Or like hey, 341 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: can you pay me back? That's literally like I watch 342 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: you to watch this movie I love, and I know 343 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: it costs money to rent. 344 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: That's like buying someone. 345 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: A coffee, right, not even that's less than a god, 346 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: that's less than a coffee. 347 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: I don't know a p that you're weird. 348 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: He pays for a while, and then asked how I 349 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: could accept treats from him but not accept five dollars 350 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: over time, those treats cost more than the movie would have. 351 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: My heart dropped into my stomach. Internally, I immediately thought, wow, 352 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: he is absolutely right. I told him that he was correct, 353 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: and that because he pointed it out, I could no 354 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: longer accept the treats either. 355 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh Pete, what, I feel like you're just kind of 356 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: creating problem. 357 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, why are you? I agree? I'm confused. 358 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. 359 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Also, now that I'm thinking back to it, did he 360 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: offer to watch the movie together for five dollars? 361 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: Because then maybe I would decline be that's so weird? Yeah, 362 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: I'd be like, hey, hold on, it seems like to 363 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: me he just loves this movie. Was like, hey, I 364 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: would love for you to watch it, but I know 365 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: it's the so like here, keep the change, keep the 366 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: champ thing. 367 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: That's like, I don't know, get yourself a popcorn. 368 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: As long as he's not being weird about it, I 369 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: don't understand why you're not liking this. That did not 370 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: go over well. He thought I was trying to punish 371 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: him or get back at him. I'm not even entirely 372 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: sure what he thought I was retaliating for. He became 373 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: increasingly upset as he talked. He seemed to think I 374 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: was taking pleasure away from him by not letting him 375 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: bring treats or buy the movie, and that I was 376 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: denying him away to show appreciation. I left work that 377 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: day on an extremely awkward and stressful note. What made 378 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: it worse was that it had nothing to do with 379 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: the actual job. I spent my entire weekend dreading the 380 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: social interaction that would come when I returned. I keep 381 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: wondering if he would bring a treat and get upset 382 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: when I refused it. I genuinely enjoy my job, and 383 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: I want everyone to succeed. I applied for this position. 384 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Rick was transferred here after the area he worked and 385 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: was shut down, and there was nowhere else to send him. 386 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: I have worked with difficult people before, including other elderly coworkers. This, however, 387 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: is a completely new level of social anxiety for me. 388 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: From my point of view, his behavior feels borderline possessive 389 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: or controlling, but maybe it's a generational thing. I don't understand. 390 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: He is very adamant about being a gentleman while simultaneously 391 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: throwing tantrums. This is not even the worst interaction I've 392 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: had with them. I'm starting to think the most helpful 393 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: thing I could do for him is leaving Circle classifieds 394 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: on his desk. I should have never accepted that first treat. 395 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: But you didn't know. And also I feel like it's 396 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like, ope, you're kind of 397 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: making it weird. 398 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 399 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: I don't think that he's like doing it so that 400 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: he could like get something out of it. I think 401 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: it's like, I guess, yeah, because it's not like, well, 402 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: now he's asking me to do this for him, and 403 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: because I do. 404 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: That, it seems like you've done a lot for him 405 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: and he's trying to show appreciation for that. 406 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: And I personally would say though that if he can't 407 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: do his job properly, stop saving his butt. 408 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 409 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: I think that's a separate issue. Yeah, Yeah, I think 410 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: that's like, maybe you're doing too much right to help him. 411 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: I feel as though maybe there's more like resentment built 412 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: up from that and it's just coming out and he 413 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 5: keeps bringing me treats. I don't want that trait, right, 414 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: And it's like maybe you're just like, really upset that 415 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 5: you're doing his job. 416 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we actually upset about? Because the treats 417 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: thing seems pretty harmless to me. Again, there are situations 418 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: where it could bleed into being uncomfortable or you know, inappropriate, 419 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: but it doesn't seem like that. 420 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: Seems like he's just doing what Rick always does. 421 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: He's just doing classic Rick moves, being an old man 422 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: and being sensitive. 423 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: Update. 424 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: He failed the sink or swim test this game is 425 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: no surprise. He caused so many issues that HR had 426 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: to get involved, apparently on the one day a week 427 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: we do not work together. He has also caused problems 428 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: for other people. He has multiple complaints against him, none 429 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: of them officially from me. He is currently under evaluation 430 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: and it does not look good. I would have updated sooner, 431 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: but life happened. Thank you to everyone who responded to 432 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: the original post. I read all the comments and took 433 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: them into consideration for clarification. He will be seventy next year. 434 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: I only found that out recently because I was not 435 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: entirely sure of his As I mentioned before, I am 436 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: very familiar with this field. I used to do both 437 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: his job and my job, solow doing both now would 438 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: not be a problem for me. The company likely has 439 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: two people in the role to lighten the workload, but 440 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: having him here actually creates more problems. People rely on 441 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: us to do our jobs correctly. If I let him 442 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 3: do things wrong, the issues come back to us and 443 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: double the workload. When I returned from my weekend, he 444 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: insisted I take a treat. I declined. He was clearly hurt, 445 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: but there was no time to address it because we 446 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: immediately got slammed. It was so busy that I did 447 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: not even take a lunch break. I probably could have 448 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: if I trusted him enough to leave him alone, or 449 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: he could have gotten you lunch, I guess, but you 450 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't have accepted it. 451 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: I would have immediately accepted if anyone is buying me lunch. 452 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 3: I love free lunch, as long as he's not being weird. 453 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as he doesn't like ass he's like 454 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: a date and he's like, I want to go on 455 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: a date with you. 456 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: He's free lunch, that's weird. At one point I had 457 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: to politely push Rick to the side because he was 458 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: physically in the way I was doing. 459 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: SI not politely pushing him. I thought she was literally 460 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: like politely push him to the side just to like 461 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: talk to him. If she meant he no, he was 462 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: actually away. 463 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: Get out of my way, Rick, Rick, you're just gonna 464 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: have to move. 465 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: I don't want to break you, but you gotta just 466 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: go a little bit to the Nope, that's left a 467 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: little bit, Okay, you know what. 468 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: I'll just. 469 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: Around. 470 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: I was doing six times the work while he was 471 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: stuck on one task. During a brief loll I could 472 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: swear he saw tears in his eyes. He stared off 473 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: into space and kept asking himself how he was going 474 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: to do this, saying he did not think he could. 475 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: I was grateful that we were too busy to talk 476 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: about anything personal for the rest of the shift. I 477 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: got my steps in refuse the treat and avoided an 478 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: awkward conversation. The next day was calmer. He asked me 479 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: if I thought he should look for another job, or 480 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: if it was worth staying. I was honest with him. 481 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: I told him that this did not seem like a 482 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: good fit, that it was fast paced and nuanced, and 483 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: that he struggled to keep up. I said the job 484 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: was not worth the stress, and that there had to 485 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: be something out there better suited him. He thanked me 486 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: for my honor. Then he immediately said he hates jobs 487 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 3: urging and we'll probably stay. After that, he offered me 488 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: a treat. 489 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh see's like, thank you for your honesty. 490 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 3: Would you like you have to like, it's just like 491 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: poor Rick doesn't know. 492 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: He's like I did. 493 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: I don't have any money, but I can offer you. 494 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 4: Such you a little like mint. 495 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: I can give you sweet treats. 496 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: I emailed my manager about not being able to take 497 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: a lunch and explain that I could not rely on Rick. 498 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: I do not know if anything will come of it. 499 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 2: Honestly, just think that Rick's just old and he doesn't 500 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: really like I worked with like a very old person honestly, 501 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: probably around seventy and like he couldn't get around. He 502 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: was not good at his job, but they just kept 503 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: him there because he literally was ere though. Yeah, he 504 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: was like, well, my brother's passed. My you know, parents 505 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: are passed. I really don't have anyone with my wife, 506 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: and all she does is yell at me. It's my 507 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: life's just miserable, and I'm here making money. I'm like, 508 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: are you all right? But this was Bob, Yeah, like 509 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 2: you're right, Like he's great, but like to have around 510 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: just for like laughs, but like, boy. 511 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: You can't really do this job. 512 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, which that's the issue here, which I don't know. 513 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: It feels like, oh, he's kind of making the whole 514 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: treats thing a bigger issue when the real issue is 515 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: just that Rick can't do his job. 516 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the issues they're trying to like reach 517 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: for something else to be mad about. Yeah, but then 518 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: not actually like like because they don't want to just say, oh, 519 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: it's just this. No, he does more annoying stuff. I 520 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: swear guys. Yeah, it's like that's not really annoyed, that's 521 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: actually very sweet. 522 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 523 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: I also spoke with another coworker. He works with Rick 524 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: on the day I am not there and works with 525 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: me on the day Rick is not there. He agrees 526 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: that Rick is a headache, ignores boundaries, and acts childish. 527 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: Rick for the record calls it childlike, which is still strange. 528 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: This coworker has also raised concerns with his superior because 529 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: we are short staffed, Rick will be scheduled to work alone. 530 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: This is the ultimate sink or sweat situation. I did 531 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: what I could to help him learn and made others 532 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: aware of his struggles. I believe he will fail and 533 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: I take no joy in that. Rick asked if I 534 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: would come in on my day off to help him. 535 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 3: The audacity is overwhelming. 536 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story. 537 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: My coworker ruined a work party because of a hear 538 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: me out cake which you put on the gig trigger 539 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: warning workplace intimidation. I twenty three Mail have been working 540 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: a corporate office job for almost a year now as 541 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: part of their software development team. The work itself has 542 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: been fined, but anyone who has worked a developer role 543 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: in a corporate setting can imagine that office life is 544 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: pretty bland and unremarkable with the people typically drawn to 545 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: this line of work. It also does not help that 546 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: I am the youngest member on our team by a 547 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: wide margin. By the way, this comes from Klundi and 548 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 549 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I am Savannah, I'm Sophia, 550 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: I'm Carly, and we are here to give you some 551 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: good advice goof Lee, But obviously we don't have all 552 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: the answer. We would only tell you what we would 553 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: do in this situation, but we would love to know 554 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments. As op says, 555 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: With all that in mind, you can imagine my excitement 556 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: when several weeks ago, a few other members of our 557 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: team and I started collaborating on a new project with 558 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: members of our company's marketing and communications division. This was 559 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: a welcome change of pace because the marketing and communications 560 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: team is made up of younger and livelier employees compared 561 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: to who I was already working with. While I was 562 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: still the youngest employee on this project, at least I 563 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: was now working with people one to three years older 564 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: than me instead of ten to thirty years yikes. Almost immediately, 565 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: I started having more fun at work once this project 566 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: began thanks to my new co workers. Within a week, 567 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: members of the marketing team had adopted me into their 568 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: click and got me involved in their group activities such 569 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: as board games during lunch, after hours, drinks in karaoke, 570 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: and whatever random trips or parties someone planned for the weekend. 571 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: For the first time since getting this job, I was 572 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: actually looking forward to showing up for work because of 573 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: these people. However, I was not the only person they 574 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: extended this invitation to. Tagging along for most of these 575 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 2: activities was another member of the development team. My older coworker, 576 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Mitch thirty five. Mail, I will cut to the chase here. 577 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Mitch is a really awkward guy. Ah, classic Mitch. 578 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: Ah, Mitch. 579 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: I used to think I was fairly awkward, but working 580 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: alongside Mitch made me realize that the awkward guy rabbit 581 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: hole goes much deeper than I originally thought. Unless we 582 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: were talking about our assignments, Mitch could never quite read 583 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: the room, which made casual conversation with him difficult. 584 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, cough. 585 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: Still, I never got the impression that he was a 586 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: bad person, and it seemed like our new coworkers thought 587 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: the same when he tagged along for group activities. It 588 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: was not like everything automatically became worse. Most of the time, 589 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: his presence just led to a few uncomfortable moments here 590 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: and there. This brings us to what happened last week. 591 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: Oh for Mitch, our hybrid team hit the halfway mark 592 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: for the project we were working on, much faster than 593 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: and originally anticipated. To celebrate, one of our managers suggested 594 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: we get some cake and hold a small office party. 595 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: My co workers on the marketing team jumped on this 596 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: and wanted to record a hear me out cake TikTok 597 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: video where everyone takes turn sticking fictional characters on top 598 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: of a cake while saying hear me Out. The girls 599 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: on the marketing team were always recording tiktoks in the office, 600 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: so no one really objected to this idea or thought 601 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: it was out of the ordinary. The next day we 602 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: all got our work done early and the party started. 603 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: We printed out our hear me out selections and tape 604 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: them to the ends of sticks. Just as planned, we 605 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: started recording the TikTok before actually eating the cake. The 606 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: first round went by with no issues, and there were 607 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: some cake. 608 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: There's some cake on the cake. 609 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: There's some pretty funny picks. Off the top of my head. 610 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: I remember the candlestick from Beauty and the Beast, Poe 611 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: from Kung Fu, Panda, Haites from Hercules, Gloria from Madagascar, 612 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: Mister Clean, and the McDonald's arches You'll. 613 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: Be honest and be honest, Gloria from Madagascar, and what 614 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: was the second one, Poe from Kung Fu Panda Okay, okay, 615 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: I I don't know. I feel like those ones that 616 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: those ones aren't hear me out enough. 617 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: I've heard of the McDonald's arches on multiple at this point. 618 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's not even really I think that's hilarious. 619 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: The McDonald's arches. Oh, hear me out. You hear me out, Sweet. 620 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: James, See you gotta be more original. Hear me out 621 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: the O'Reilly's just the parts, just the jingle. 622 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: Hear me out. Merlin from the Old Guy. 623 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the wizard that I dressed up for last year 624 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: for Halloween. But to Bermuda, Merlin from Sword and the Stone, 625 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: I see it. Hear me the f owl. I'm sure 626 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: the problem occurred during the second round, misplaced the picture 627 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: of Eileen twenty six, female from the marketing team. 628 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I knew it was coming. She's like, yeah, guys, guys, 629 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 3: I know Aileen's ugly. 630 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 4: I know she's freaking worse. But hear me out. No, 631 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: I'm scared of Mitch. 632 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: This was accompanied by a comment along the lines of 633 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: here's somebody I want to add to my body caut Oh. 634 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, that's an HR. That's HR complaint. 635 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's an immediate HR situation. 636 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: The room went completely silent and everyone just stared at Mitch. 637 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: After he said that, people immediately started placing themselves between 638 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Mitch and Eileen, and. 639 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: The recording stopped. 640 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah fairen oh no. 641 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: I was pretty shocked by everything that was happening. I 642 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: remember some of the girls taking Eileen to the bathroom 643 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: while the rest of us confronted Mitch. At first, Mitch 644 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: tried to double down, saying he thought it would be 645 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: funny for the TikTok and that this reaction was an 646 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: honest misunderstanding. Another coworker and I immediately called BS on 647 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: that excuse. Mitch was very clearly trying to make a 648 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: move on because during the months we had all been 649 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: hanging out together he had a habit of creepily hovering 650 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: around her. Very quickly, a lot of Mitch's behavior within 651 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: the group was recontextualized, and as everyone confronted him, I 652 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: lost any remaining respect or sympathy I may have had 653 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 2: for him. Eventually, Mitch seemed to realize he was not 654 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: going to win by doubling down. He shrank into himself 655 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: and started apologizing repeatedly in an attempt to avoid punishment. Luckily, 656 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: our company has a very strict zero tolerance intimidation policy. 657 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: Some of the managers pulled Mitch aside and instructed the 658 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: rest of us to try to enjoy the cake before 659 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: heading home early for the weekend. This week, Mitch has 660 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: not come into office. He was told to work from 661 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: home while management figured out what to do with him. 662 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: HR representatives have been coming around collecting stories and asking 663 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: for our thoughts on Mitch as a co worker. I 664 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: have since learned that Mitch has had done a lot 665 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: more than just be awkward in the past. 666 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, yeah, I feel like it's going 667 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: to come out that he's been like really creepy to people. 668 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: H Okay, now I know. You know. 669 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: At first I felt really bad because I was like, 670 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: he's just so socially awkward. He can't help it. But 671 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: also that's not inappropriate. You have to like say something. Yeah, 672 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: And now it's just like, Nope, this guy's just creep 673 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: oh h. At first, I was worried he would face 674 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: a little to no repercussions because of his long employment 675 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: history and productivity. As the week has gone on, though, 676 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: it seems increasingly likely that Mitch. 677 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: Will be let go. 678 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Think thank god, Yeah, everything else about this week has 679 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: kind of sucked. I'm sitting at my desk on Friday 680 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: typing this and I am back to not really liking 681 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: this job. All the friends I made on the marketing 682 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: team understandably have a very different vibe in the office, 683 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: and we no longer hang out like we used to all. 684 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: Eileen in particular, has chosen to work from home by request. 685 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: There it sucks for her. 686 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: Based on her messages in our group chat, she seems 687 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: to be doing pretty well. Unfortunately, it looks like following 688 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: this incident, our managers will be swapping out all of 689 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: the marketing team members on this project for new ones 690 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: in the coming weeks. So thanks for that, Mitch. I 691 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: am helping everything returns to some sense of normalcy soon 692 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: and that no one ever has to do with Mitch again. 693 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep trying to stay friends with my 694 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: coworkers through all of this, but I understand that it 695 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: probably will not work out in the long run. But yeah, 696 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: that is about it. And we got some comments. Comment 697 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: one says they hear me out. Cake trend, a new 698 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: TikTok trend is allowing people to share their kookies. Crow 699 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: oh blah blah blah. That's for people who don't know 700 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: what it is, which we have explained it now. I'm 701 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: so sorry for you. This ruin the vibe and your 702 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: connection plus the nice the nice work opportunity. I couldn't 703 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: help myself from laughing a little bit because it sounds 704 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: like something David Brent from the office would do and 705 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: spoiling the vibe for everybody, but for you and Eileen. 706 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: This sucksprowning face. I really really hope another opportunity will come. 707 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: Maybe when time has passed, you can suggest another TikTok 708 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: trend to do that is more safe, or just don't 709 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: do anything. 710 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: Maybe we just don't do it. Yeah, I'm just annoying them. 711 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just you don't really need TikTok trend's just like, 712 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: just just be happy without Yeah. Comment two says, why 713 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: would you need to talk about any sort of crush 714 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: at work? There so many ways this could easily become 715 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: inappropriate and unprofessional as seen in your story. This is 716 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: a silly thing people do when socializing, but at work. 717 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: No. 718 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: Secondly for the people saying that Mitch was just a poor, 719 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: innocent guy. Shooting a shot a work party surrounded by 720 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: others is not the place to shoot your shot. Dating 721 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: coworkers is tricky. A lot of companies even banned co 722 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: workers from dating and coworkers who date often have to 723 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: keep the relationship a secret. Mitch should have found private 724 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: time away from a work party and co workers to 725 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: ask Eileen out. Doing it publicly makes things extremely awkward, 726 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: especially if they did wind up going on a couple 727 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: dates then breaking up. Everyone would know about a situation 728 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: that could have easily been handled privately. 729 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 7: Uh. 730 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: Another relevant update, Do we have anything. 731 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: Else we wanna say? 732 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: No? 733 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: It seems like HR is handling everything. I'm sorry that 734 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: this happened, especially Eileen. Yeah, she seems like a good Yeah, Eileen. 735 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about her, but I'm sorry Eileen. 736 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: I know Eileen just gets put in the middle, like, oh, 737 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: take her to the bathroom. Go yeah O added in 738 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: the comments, Hey everybody, I read some of the comments 739 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: and realized there was one very important detail I left 740 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: out of the original post. While the hear me out 741 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: trend is about sharing fictional crushes, Mitch interpreted as characters 742 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: you want to have spicy sleep with. 743 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 3: That is partially I mean like it kind of it 744 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: kind of is, but you also just don't. It doesn't 745 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: really matter what he interpreted it as. He shouldn't have 746 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: done real people. It's the issue here. Yeah, you did 747 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: a person that he works with. That was the issue. 748 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the issue. Thought the trend wasn't the issue. 749 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: It was the outcome of the tread of how people 750 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: responded was the issue. 751 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: I Mitch was the issue. 752 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Mitch really is and was the issue. When he placed 753 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: the picture of Eileen on the cake, it was accompanied 754 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: by a pretty nasty comment where he essentially said, here's 755 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: somebody I want to add to my body count. To 756 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: my understanding, this behavior lines up with other things he 757 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: had said behind closed doors, which is why this incident 758 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: was taken so seriously and punished under spicy related intimidation policies. 759 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: I apologize for leaving this information out Originally, that was 760 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: my mistake. And that's the end. 761 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host. 762 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 6: Here. 763 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 764 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 765 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: My boyfriend gave the wrong gift to his mother, so 766 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: I took it back. 767 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 8: You know what, I give a gift to your mom. 768 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: I twenty two female make really cool vases as a hobby. 769 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: These can take weeks to complete. 770 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: You take two weeks to complete a vase. 771 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: Weeks from my life, I can't get back reading that 772 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 6: sentence and are always made. 773 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 4: With the gift e in mind. 774 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: My mom, fifty female, and I have always been into 775 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: nature together. We hike, we own animals, we eat outside 776 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: if we can. I guess being into nature sounds weird. Oh, 777 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: and your ship show kreaky. 778 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: They get Oh, they look at me. I'm the only 779 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 4: person ever to like nature. 780 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: We just like being outside. By the way, this comes 781 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 2: from Putty. If you want to submit your own stories, 782 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: go to the ye slash Okay storytime subreddit. I am Savanna. 783 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: Claus, I'm the grn sh I'm Angie. 784 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: And we are here to give you good advice goofully. 785 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: But obviously we don't have all the answers. We would 786 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: only tell you what we would do in this situation. 787 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: But we would love to know what you would do. 788 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to know what you would do. 789 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, we would like to, we would we like So 790 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: I made my mom a Siamese cat urn. It looks 791 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: like a vase, but the top is the cat's ears. 792 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: It is super cute and I love the way it 793 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: turned out. No one passed away or anything. It was 794 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: just the style of the piece I had finished it 795 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: and taken it to my apartment, wrapped it up, and 796 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: been so excited about it. Well, my boyfriend's twenty two 797 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: male mother forty female came over and he didn't get 798 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: her a Christmas last Birthday present. She loves cats, so 799 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: he just gave her the piece I made, which she loved. 800 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: My boyfriend does not live with me. He has his 801 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: own apartment near his school. His mother came over before 802 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: we went over for dinner to see my new kitten. 803 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: She was in tears over how nice the present was, 804 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: and I ruined it. Oh no, I told her that 805 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: the presence must have gotten mixed up that was made 806 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: for my mother. She got a bit upset, gave it back. 807 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: Then my boyfriend went out to dinner with her. He 808 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: said it would be best if I didn't come. 809 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: WHOA, he's a little butt hed, isn't he. 810 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 6: I'd never get buttered if someone stole the presence that 811 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 6: I stole back, because I'd respect game. Game respects game. 812 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 4: You steal from me, I steal from you. It's an 813 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: ongoing cycle of thief. An ongoing cycle of thief. 814 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 3: You mean of theft? 815 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 4: No I a thief? 816 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 7: Oh? 817 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: Oh god? 818 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: I guess she cried the whole way, and he didn't 819 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: have a present for her, so he looked like a 820 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: bad son. Well, yeah, it sounds like a you problem. 821 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: Why didn't he have a present? I don't know. Then 822 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: you just steal your girlfriends. 823 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 6: Just steal another present. You've already done it once. It 824 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 6: can't be that hard. 825 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: I have trouble seeing where I am at fault. I 826 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: understand that the nice thing would have been to remake 827 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: a gift or let her just have it. 828 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: However, it was. 829 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: One of my best pieces, and I always give my 830 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: mother art I made. She loves it. She shows it 831 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: off to everyone. It is something she takes great bride in. 832 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: She has one from every Christmas and I never miss 833 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: a year. She even shows off the crappy lumps I 834 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: made as a kid. Oh, crappy lumps, grinch. 835 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: I mean, what, what? What? What is it? What is 836 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 4: your issue with this? Do you want to have a 837 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 4: problem with the phone? I don't know what you're talking 838 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: about it. I feel like you have a problem with everything. 839 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 4: You gotta complain to get comfortable. What's your biggest complaint? 840 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 6: My biggest complaint is that the air smells like farts. 841 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: Well, I wonder who did that. 842 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 6: Well, maybe you should have a purifier because you knew 843 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 6: I was coming and I only eat onion, So yeah, 844 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 6: sue me. 845 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 4: I've heard a bit. 846 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 6: I live in a cave so I don't have to 847 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 6: deal with the smell of my own farts. 848 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: Okay, there's a draft. Sure. Shit. 849 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: My boyfriend wants to talk talk tomorrow. I am not 850 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: sure if he's going to break up with me. Yeah, 851 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: wants to yell at me for it. Was I a knocklead. 852 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: Boyfriend seems to think I was. I love this guy 853 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: very much, and I really love his mom. She is 854 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: super sweet and kind and never really gets nice things. 855 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: I still don't think it is my job to cover 856 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: for his lack of foresight. Her birthday comes every year 857 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: on the same day. It's not like it surprised him. 858 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: I got her card and a book, which I thought 859 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: was nice. She thanked me for them later over text, 860 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: but she seemed really sad about the cat base. I 861 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 2: guess she was hoping I either made her something or 862 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: my boyfriend actually got her something she really liked. She 863 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: loves cats, and he has never gotten her anything cat themed. 864 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: It is always some cooking supplies or an apron okay, 865 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: which means he sucks. 866 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: A great Does she have like twenty five aprons every year? 867 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: I know, like you really one apron. I feel like 868 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: one apron would last you your entire tea. 869 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 4: If you have friends, I only need one. 870 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: But in your friend fiction, there's plenty. 871 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 4: Is my friend fiction, no one's wearing aprons or clothes, 872 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 4: So I am just not sure what to think. 873 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: Does anyone have an idea what to do in the situations? 874 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: Anna breakup? Break up with your boyfriend? I think they 875 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 4: should break up because I'm bored. That's not break up 876 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 4: with your boyfriend because. 877 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 8: I I want to leave him. 878 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: I a present. 879 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 2: I don't think you need to break up per se 880 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: before your boy boyfriend and no to jail to frame your. 881 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 4: Boyfriend because I'm bored. 882 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, we got an update. 883 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 4: Okay. 884 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: A few people advised that I should have just let 885 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: his mom have the gift. This is not something I 886 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: was comfortable doing. I don't make art to sell. I 887 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: make art to give to people who I love very much. 888 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: Me too, I get it. So each pieza has a 889 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: lot of love in it. 890 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 6: My now ex boyfriend ex boyfriend, he's gone. 891 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: Buy Wow, grinted, you really predicted that yeah, because I'm psychic. 892 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: Showed up around four pm and wanted to talk at me. 893 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: He just told me he was disappointed and that he 894 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: had taken a lot of sweet talking to make his 895 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: mother understand what happened. He told her I mixed up 896 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: the packages, but that I had one for her that 897 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: I just needed to get. I told him I didn't 898 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 2: have anything for her, and then I was not going 899 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 2: to be helping him out. He could go buy one 900 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: for her and pass it off his handmaid, but I 901 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: was not covering for him. I told him I felt 902 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: that his behavior was cruel to me, the effort I 903 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: put into my art and my mom, his mom, just everyone. 904 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: He told me that he expected better. He would not apologize. 905 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: He just kept getting angrier and angrier. He ended up 906 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: grabbing a piece I made earlier this year. I was 907 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: really proud of. It was a mermaid on a rock. 908 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: He said he would give this to her and that 909 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: I could find a new boyfriend. I told him if 910 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: he left. 911 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: With it, I would call the police. 912 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: We weren't screaming, but we were both really angry. He 913 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: slammed it back down on my table. He told me 914 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: that he never wanted to see me again, and I 915 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: should call him when I grow the f up. 916 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure was dating a minor? Is that your crime? 917 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 6: That's your crime, the only crime I say no, no, 918 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 6: no to. 919 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: I don't like when men get very very immature, like 920 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: they get like really hot headed real quick, and then 921 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: just say things in the moment andy be like, oh, 922 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't have But it's like, why don't you 923 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: just take a second to breathe and be like, this 924 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: isn't really that big of a deal. Let me just 925 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: like think through it. Understand, Like I understand emotions get 926 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: in the way and whatnot. But like, for the most part, 927 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: I like to think through things before I say it. 928 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 8: Whatever, Cranch, Oh you're giving real advice. Now, what do 929 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 8: you have a degree in sociology? Yep, I guess so, yeah, 930 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 8: a degree in stupid town population one, sorry population. 931 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 6: To your mom and you. 932 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, town, we got an update, so let's get going. 933 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: I told him we were over, that he was no 934 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 2: longer my boyfriend and I wanted nothing to do with him. 935 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: I said he could take the clay back if he wanted, 936 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: but I had already returned his Xbox to the store. 937 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: Whoa He told me to keep the effine clay, and 938 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have apologized if he knew I wasn't giving 939 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: him the present. 940 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 4: That's so. Oh, you have apologize if he wasn't getting the. 941 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 2: Xbox, yeah, he said, He said, Oh, well, I wouldn't 942 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: have apologized if, like I knew, this guy makes. 943 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 4: Me look like a saint. 944 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: And you're dating, well, not anymore. 945 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 6: Oh that's good. You can date me, but not I 946 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 6: don't actually want you. It seems strange. 947 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 2: He called me a liar and said I had ruined 948 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: his holiday whatever. According to the dribble coming out of 949 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: his mouth, his mom was really hurt and had left 950 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: town early. 951 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 4: She left town. 952 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: I guess she left town because she didn't get a caturn. 953 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: Yes, actually that's exactly. 954 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 6: If I left town every time I didn't get a caturn, 955 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 6: I'd never come home. 956 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 4: But that's just me. That's just me. 957 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: He thought giving her a piece and shifting the blame 958 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: to me for aginning would make it better. I told 959 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: him to just leave. So now I am single, with 960 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 2: a lot of clay and a lightly cracked Mermaid statue. 961 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to feel about this, but Dobby 962 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 2: is free. That's the end of the story, I refuse 963 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: to give my daughter's stuff to my sister and it 964 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: made her furious. 965 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 7: Just give her the stuff. 966 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: Come on, I'm thirty three and my husband and I 967 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: have two kids, eight male and seven female. We didn't 968 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: plan on having them back to back, but it happened. Oh, 969 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 2: my husband got a vasectomy and we're. 970 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 7: Set snip snoop. 971 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from. 972 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: Internal Soup nine zero six, And if you want to 973 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 974 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: story Time Separated And I am Savannah Claus. 975 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 7: I'm Riley Elf. Oh, I'm vincent. 976 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm still new here, and we are here to give 977 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 2: you some good advice. Gorufully, but we don't have all 978 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 2: the answers. We would only tell you what we would 979 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: do in this situation, but we would love to know 980 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: what you would do, he says. When I was pregnant 981 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: with our son, we were living in a rented two 982 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 2: bedroom house and decorated the nursery with olive in wood tones. 983 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: That sounds so pretty. We kept it the same when 984 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: we had her daughter and just made room for the baby. 985 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: When our son was six and our daughter was five, 986 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: my husband got a big promotion at work that allowed 987 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: us to look for and buy a four bedroom forever home. 988 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 2: Since it was permanent, we thought it'd be fun to 989 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: give the kids themed rooms. We asked them each what 990 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: they wanted. Our son picked dinosaurs. My husband likes to 991 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: joke that we have a mini Ross on our hands, 992 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: so we did a wilderness theme. My daughter picked Aurora, 993 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,479 Speaker 2: so we did a fairy tale theme. We went all 994 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: out since these would be their bedrooms until they were teens, 995 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 2: and we gave the nursery furniture away since we were 996 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: done having kids. We asked her families first, but none 997 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 2: of them were planning kids at the time, so it 998 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: went to friends. Presently, My sister is twenty one weeks 999 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: pregnant with a baby girl, their first all. She was 1000 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 2: over at our place and said she was leaning towards 1001 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: something like my daughter's room for the nursery, but nursery 1002 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: stuff is expensive. I told her she should go with 1003 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: neutral tones since it'll be used a lot as they 1004 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 2: want a big family. She was like, nah, I want 1005 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: themed ones for each baby like you did with my kids' names. 1006 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 7: Oh. 1007 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: I raised my eyebrows because that's going to be expensive 1008 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 2: but not died, because who am I to talk when 1009 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: I kind of did the same. We continued chatting for 1010 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 2: a while, and she grabbed my laptop and started going 1011 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: through the website I used and complained again, so I 1012 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 2: suggested that she puts some of the reasonably priced stuff 1013 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: on her baby shower list. She gave a non committal 1014 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: hum and then said that I could give her some 1015 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: stuff as well. I was confused because I thought she 1016 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: meant the old nursery and I reminded her that we 1017 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 2: gave it away. She shook her head and told me 1018 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: she meant stuff from our daughter's room. I asked her 1019 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: what she meant, because she's using that room. It's not 1020 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: like she doesn't live in it. She waved her hand 1021 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: and said it wasn't a big deal and that we 1022 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 2: could part with a few things. 1023 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 7: Dude, I don't get it. 1024 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: I feel bad, like I like, while I feel bad 1025 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: for OP because it's like I get that, you know, 1026 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: they're family, and you know, family always expects like you 1027 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: just provide for each other and are always there for 1028 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 2: each other and whatnot. But then like the child lives 1029 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: in that room, so they are using all of this 1030 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: stuff in the room. I'm guessing. So I don't understand 1031 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: why you would ask for Oh I need that from 1032 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: my daughter. 1033 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 9: But the kids now are like teenagers, and I thought 1034 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 9: they already gave all the nursery stuff away. 1035 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah they did, that's why. 1036 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's why she's like, I want the stuff. 1037 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 4: That you have now. 1038 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why, because because like that, I don't know. 1039 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: I feel like a newborn wouldn't need the stuff like 1040 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,959 Speaker 2: an eight year. 1041 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 7: Old that's entitled. 1042 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 5: Ye. 1043 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of icky. 1044 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: Literally taking furniture from a child, that's crazy. I asked 1045 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: her what she thought we could part with, and she 1046 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 2: casually said, stuff like the drapes, a lamp, the mirror, 1047 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: et cetera. Stop what taking the whole room from this child? What? Well, 1048 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: you don't need drapes and this mirror she doesn't even 1049 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 2: want to look at herself. 1050 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 7: She probably should. 1051 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 2: This slamp she doesn't need light. 1052 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, your child doesn't need privacy? 1053 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 7: Ud? What a in? 1054 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: I asked her, sarcastically if she wanted the sheets as well, 1055 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 2: or maybe the clothes our daughter's back. She just glared 1056 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: and told me I could tone down my greed and 1057 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: help out with this. I told her a flat no, 1058 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: it's unreasonable that she is even asking because she and 1059 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 2: her husband are well off just like us. It's not 1060 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: like she's struggling and I'm refusing to help. She told 1061 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 2: me it was different because they want a big family, 1062 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: so they need to save more. I told her, if 1063 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: that's the case, then they can save by using the 1064 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 2: same nursery for every baby. She just glared again, called 1065 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: me a greedy witch, and left. She's not replying to 1066 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 2: my texts, and my mom called to ask me what 1067 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 2: happened because she called her to complain about me without 1068 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: specifying anything. 1069 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 7: Oh God, just complaining. I don't understand calling people just 1070 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 7: to complain. 1071 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 2: My mom was just as bewildered as I was when 1072 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 2: I told her. My husband thinks I'm in the right, 1073 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: and I do too. I'm just confused and maybe there's 1074 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: something we're not seeing. 1075 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 4: Edit. 1076 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 2: Thank you everyone for your opinions and advice. After talking 1077 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: about it with my husband and my mom, I'm going 1078 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: to give my sister a couple of days to cool 1079 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 2: off before I try to reach out to her again 1080 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: and hopefully have a conversation. You may find this naive, 1081 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 2: but all three of us agree that this isn't like her. 1082 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 4: Maybe she and. 1083 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 2: Her husband are going through a rough financial patch, or 1084 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 2: maybe he pulled the plug on multiple theme nurseries. Whatever 1085 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: it is, I'm not ready to go scorched earth and 1086 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 2: cut my sister off after one bizarre, entitled demand. 1087 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 7: That's usually what people read it. 1088 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 9: Do I'll get rid of her, just just go to 1089 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 9: contact forever. 1090 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's a little thing. 1091 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 7: You guys can bounce back typical sibling rivalry. 1092 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: She's still my sister, the one I grew up with, 1093 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,919 Speaker 2: the one who held me down when I was going 1094 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: through stuff and kept me grounded. The one who let 1095 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 2: me nearly break her hand from squeezing too hard when 1096 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: I was in labor until my husband got there. All 1097 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 2: of that doesn't just go away. Oh there's an update. 1098 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 9: Sounds like you're just giving her reasonable advice. Hey, you're 1099 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 9: gonna have kids. They're gonna be in one room in 1100 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 9: and out for you know, two years max. It doesn't 1101 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 9: make sense to have a single nursery room dedicated for 1102 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 9: each kid unless you're like those Severance people. It's like 1103 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 9: it's traumatizing. 1104 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: For a kid, inyan and outy, a kid. 1105 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 9: To uh change beds, you know how they're like weird 1106 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 9: about that, like a child must stay in the same bed. 1107 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: Oh oh my god. 1108 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1109 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, people are like that. Now they're like, oh, like 1110 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: switching out beds, you know, like it's not gonna be. 1111 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 4: Like good for them. 1112 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: They need to stay like that. I know, like a 1113 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 2: person who is like that who was like, oh no, no, 1114 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: they need like the bed that they're going to be in, 1115 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 2: like for the rest of their lives. 1116 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 7: What I thought you're supposed to have a new bed 1117 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 7: every eight years. 1118 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like want I don't know. It's something something 1119 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 2: probably with like gentle parenting or something. 1120 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1121 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't agree with gentle parenting. 1122 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 4: If you do it, cool, I hope it works for you. 1123 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 2: Never ever were what. 1124 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 7: We're gonna say, Vincent. 1125 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 2: I think they might be more like the room that 1126 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: they're in, Like they should be in that one room. 1127 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, that makes sense, like staying in one room until 1128 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 7: you leave. I don't know. 1129 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 9: It sounds like you're trying to be reasonable and your 1130 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 9: sister wants a nice time and if she needs to 1131 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 9: express herself creatively, hush money, think differently than put up 1132 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 9: a different poster of Frege kid. That's in there for 1133 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 9: that three years. You get diet poster for a little 1134 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 9: spiry one. Yeah, you know, you get a cat. 1135 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 2: Get a cat. 1136 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 4: The update almost eight months later. 1137 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: My sister gave birth a few months back to an 1138 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 2: adorable baby girl. They're both healthy as can be and thriving, thankfully. 1139 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: She wasn't having pre natal psychosis like some people were suggesting, 1140 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 2: but she and her husband were having financial problems my 1141 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 2: mom and I weren't aware of. Her mother in law 1142 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 2: had been having a lot of health issues and her bills. 1143 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 4: Were racking up. 1144 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: My sister and her husband had stepped in and were 1145 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 2: supporting her, which they could easily afford to do, but 1146 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: they had to cut back a bit on their lifestyle. 1147 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 2: I didn't reach out for a while after my unanswered 1148 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 2: calls and text but Mom kept being on her case, 1149 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: and eventually she reached out and apologized and asked to 1150 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: come over. She apologized again in person and told me 1151 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: what had been going on with her husband, her mother 1152 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 2: in law, his brothers, and their lack of chipping in 1153 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 2: toward their mother's care. Her outburst was out of frustration 1154 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: with everything going on, and she knows it wasn't fair 1155 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: to aim it at me. She was stressing because her 1156 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: husband had also been putting off nursery talk, and it's 1157 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 2: the first baby, and she wanted the best. 1158 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 4: Of the best for her. 1159 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 7: Oh got it, I see, I get I get it. 1160 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 7: First baby struggles. I've seen some parents that get very like. 1161 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: Oh for sure, yeah, and then like after like a while, 1162 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: they're like, oh god, this is exhausting. 1163 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 7: But with the third kid, they're like, whatever happen me. 1164 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,959 Speaker 4: And that's how that here. I am. 1165 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm the third, the third, I'm the. 1166 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 4: Third of four. 1167 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 7: We're Sitdney at second. 1168 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 4: She's more, she's for it. She's Everyone thinks she's older 1169 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 4: than me. 1170 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what they do with my brother. Take Yeah, 1171 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 7: I always think he's older than me. 1172 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not. She is a year younger than me. 1173 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 2: There's an update. Unfortunately, it's been thing after thing for her. 1174 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 2: A month after she and her husband welcome their little girl, 1175 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 2: her mother in law passed away. 1176 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 4: Oh wow. And a month after. 1177 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 2: That, our own mom had a health scare. Ay, thankfully 1178 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 2: she's okay now, although it brought my sister and me closer. 1179 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 4: Well, that's good. 1180 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: So my sister and I are okay. My daughter's stuff 1181 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 2: is firmly hers and will always be unless she decides 1182 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,479 Speaker 2: she's outgrown it and gives it away to whoever she wants. Yes, 1183 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 2: just like bib right. Sorry if this is all over 1184 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 2: the place, I'm just typing this out as it comes 1185 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 2: to mind since it's been months. 1186 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 4: That's the end of that story. Here's johny og host here. 1187 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but he's a 1188 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: quick three minute break of ass form more sponsors. 1189 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 2: My boyfriend won't let me go on a friend's trip 1190 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 2: because he thinks I'll cheat. Ooh, boyfriend in security is showing. 1191 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: I female twenty seven, have been with my boyfriend, Richard 1192 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: male thirty nine for five years. We lived together, we 1193 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 2: both work, we hardly ever argue, and we have a 1194 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,240 Speaker 2: nice quiet life. By the way, this comes from most 1195 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 2: Stable twenty eight fifty three, And if you want to 1196 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: submit your stories, you can go to the Okay storytime subreddit. 1197 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: I am Savannah, I'm Carly, and we are here to 1198 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 2: give you some good advice. Goofully, But obviously we don't 1199 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We would just say what we 1200 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 2: would do in this situation, but we would love to 1201 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 2: know what you would do in the comments. As Opie says, 1202 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: when I was in university, I had a group of friends, 1203 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: both male and female, that I used to do a 1204 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 2: lot of activities with. We would go hiking, snowboarding, and 1205 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 2: traveling together. There was nothing romantic going on. After graduation, 1206 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: a few of them moved away and I met Richard, 1207 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 2: so we stopped hanging out. Recently, I got an email 1208 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: from one of my friends from that group who is 1209 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: organizing a reunion. I have been invited to join them 1210 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 2: on a trip to Whistler. We will be snowboarding, dining, sightseeing, 1211 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 2: and visiting Vancouver since they are renting a car. Richard 1212 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 2: hates these people, so I knew he would say no 1213 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: if I asked him to join. I asked anyway, and 1214 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 2: as expected, he declined. I told him no worries since 1215 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 2: I anticipated his response, and I figured I would just 1216 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 2: go home. However, he got upset and said, you are 1217 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 2: not in college anymore and your partying days are over. 1218 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 2: You are not going on a f trip with a 1219 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: bunch of wasted frat boys. I showed him the email 1220 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 2: with the itinerary, but he rolled his eyes and said, 1221 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 2: you are all going to end up cheating. 1222 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 4: Who are you kidding. 1223 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 2: Then he asked if the guys were married and whether 1224 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: their wives were coming. I told him I did not 1225 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 2: really know and that it did not matter. He responded, 1226 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 2: you are not going, and that is the end of it. 1227 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 4: I feel so sad. 1228 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 2: I do not want to email my friends and say 1229 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 2: I cannot come, But I also do not want to 1230 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 2: make my boyfriend uncomfortable. Am I an a hole for 1231 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 2: really wanting to go on this trip? Here's some comments. 1232 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 2: He's your boyfriend, not your master. He does not get 1233 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 2: to dictate where you go or what you do. Implying 1234 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: that you plan to cheat on him is incredibly disrespectful. Yeah, 1235 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: unless you've cheated on him before. He has no reason 1236 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: to insult your morals like this. I wouldn't stay with 1237 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 2: someone who spoke to me like this or attempted to 1238 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: control me like this. You aren't wrong, and it's time 1239 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 2: to plan your exit from this relationship. Ohp He says, 1240 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 2: I have never ever given him any reason to think 1241 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 2: like this. I have never cheated on him ever. 1242 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 4: A few questions. 1243 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: One, will you be the only female at the reunion? 1244 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 2: If not, how many females? 1245 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 4: Two? 1246 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: Is there anyone in the friend group you have any 1247 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: history with relationship slash hookup three. He called it an 1248 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 2: f trip. Have your past trips been just having fun 1249 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 2: and casual hookups? Everyone in the comments will be quick 1250 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: to call him controlling or insecure, but most won't even 1251 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: stop to ask for context and get the full picture. 1252 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure that dude whose wife cheated on him with 1253 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 2: her patience would have been called trolling an insecure if 1254 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 2: he didn't want his wife to go on that trip. 1255 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: Opie responds, no, three girls, four guys, if everyone shows. 1256 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: I did invite him to join us, but he said no. 1257 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 2: That's why I said, then I'll go alone. Update seventeen 1258 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: hours later, not even a full day. Uh oh, strap in. 1259 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 2: I keep getting asked the same questions over and over 1260 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 2: in dms or commons, So instead of repeating myself, here 1261 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 2: you go, no, you can't come on the trip instead 1262 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 2: of my boyfriend. Please stop dming. 1263 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 4: Me about it. 1264 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 2: If you keep asking, I will blog you. Why hasn't 1265 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 2: he proposed yet because he will do it when he's ready. 1266 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 2: Right now, he's focused on buying a bigger place. Do 1267 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 2: I work or does he pay for my expenses? I 1268 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 2: work and we split house expenses fifty to fifty, I 1269 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: pay half of his current mortgage. No, he is not 1270 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: my ATM, and I am paying for the trip myself. 1271 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: Why does he hate my group of friends? He thinks 1272 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 2: they're dumb and annoying. He came out for drinks with 1273 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 2: us once when we first met, and said afterwards that 1274 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 2: he couldn't stand them. They're very chatty and extroverted, while 1275 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: he is quiet, introverted and hates loud noises. Are other 1276 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 2: people bringing their spouses? I asked the organizer, and she 1277 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 2: can earned that everyone is except one girl and two 1278 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: single guys. Is my boyfriend invited? 1279 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 4: Of course? 1280 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: But he said hard pass because three days with these 1281 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: annoying people would be torture for him. He told me, 1282 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 2: you're better than these loud idiots. You've matured. Why are 1283 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 2: you still hanging out with them? First of all, you 1284 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 2: met them five years ago, so they might like obviously, 1285 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 2: people don't change that much, but maybe in the five years, 1286 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: like you know, might have done some growing up. 1287 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 5: You're like, they were really immature in their early twenties. 1288 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, really immature in college? 1289 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:43,919 Speaker 4: All right? 1290 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 2: I told you that. I think that's just a fact. Yeah, 1291 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: Like okay, I texted him, saying I wanted to talk, 1292 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 2: and he said, if it's about the trip, there's nothing 1293 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: to talk about. I replied, no, it's about us, and 1294 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: he never responded. He hasn't spoke to me since our argument. 1295 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 2: Does my boyfriend have some infidelity trauma? I have no idea. 1296 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 2: He had a long term ex before me, who is 1297 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 2: now happily married. They broke up because she met someone else. 1298 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was an affair or if 1299 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 2: she simply ended things with him to be with the 1300 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 2: new guy. That's all I know. Why am I low 1301 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: contact Elsie with my family? I'm Elsie with my parents 1302 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: because my dad never stands up for me when my 1303 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 2: mom is being awful to me. One example was at 1304 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 2: their anniversary dinner when my mom made a toast in 1305 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 2: front of everyone about how they were blessed to have 1306 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: a wonderful son my brother, and then pushed their luck 1307 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 2: by having me. She said we should have stopped while 1308 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 2: we were ahead. When I confronted my dad, he dismissed 1309 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: it as a joke. Later, my mom doubled down, saying, 1310 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 2: the truth hurts. You've been and underachieving disappointment. 1311 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 4: Your whole life. All right? Well, now I hate her. 1312 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 3: Now I understand, and that's why we went in low contact. 1313 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: Surprised we didn't go no content. Yeah, I'll talk to 1314 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 2: him later today. At this point, I more hurt that 1315 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 2: he assumed I would cheat. It's not even about the 1316 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 2: trip anymore. And there are some comments I'm curious to 1317 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 2: know who does the cooking and chores. Glad you have 1318 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 2: your own money. Your boyfriend is showing you very bad 1319 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: character to question your integrity. Op response. He loves cooking 1320 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 2: and does it all the time. I have OCD, so 1321 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 2: I do all the cleaning, grocery shopping, and other stuff 1322 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: we do together. They also responded, you pay half his mortgage, 1323 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 2: so he's using you, and what he said about your friends, 1324 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: he's a major knucklehead. Dump him and go on the trip. 1325 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Op response, it's actually much cheaper than what my rent 1326 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: used to be when I was living alone. They also responded, Okay, 1327 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 2: will he ever put your name on the deed for 1328 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: the place you're paying for? Op responds no, because he 1329 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: paid the down payment, so it's his house that I 1330 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: moved in. They respond, but you're paying half the mortgage. 1331 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a landlord's last tenancy agreement? If not, 1332 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 2: you are paying for his assets. He's using you as 1333 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 2: an atm OP responds, No, I do not have any 1334 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 2: written contract, formal agreement. 1335 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 4: Only update two. Here we go. 1336 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Richard and I talked last night. He broke up with me. 1337 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 2: I told him I was hurt that he assumed I'd 1338 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 2: cheat on him. He said he was disappointed that I 1339 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 2: didn't respect his boundaries and chose the trip instead. Then 1340 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 2: he hit me with I thought you were a mature, 1341 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 2: smart woman, but you are still a silly, immature little girl. 1342 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh and apparently I'm not wife material. 1343 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Stay broken up. 1344 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he sounds awful, and he's now that he's been 1345 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 5: like called out and you've actually done something that he 1346 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 5: really doesn't like. And he thinks that he can like 1347 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 5: finally control or whatever. He's spiraling, throwing anything he can. 1348 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 3: Out there, like yeah, terrible. 1349 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he thinks that he won. And honestly, you won 1350 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,959 Speaker 2: out of this. You won by not having to date 1351 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: this man. Yeah, you won by him letting you go 1352 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: go snowboard. He did go snowboarding with your friends, and 1353 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: then you could talk about how all of this happened 1354 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 2: in your friends one hundred percent will agree that you 1355 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 2: did the right thing. So you know, it's a loss 1356 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: for him, really, not for you. You get to go hang 1357 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 2: out with your friends while he gets to sit there alone. 1358 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 4: Oh no, darn, he did it to himself. 1359 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 7: What do you do? 1360 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you probably gonna have to fight a place to live. 1361 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's the tricky part. I'm sure this update 1362 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 2: will tell us a little bit about that. 1363 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 4: Here. 1364 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 2: He also said he wanted me out of his place 1365 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 2: a sap, and even threw in a snarky comment technically 1366 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 2: your name isn't on the deed. You're just a house guest. 1367 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 2: I would punt you out right now. I was like, wow, 1368 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 2: after five years, you're really kicking me out in a snowstorm. 1369 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 2: We had over thirty centimeters of snow yesterday. Luckily, my 1370 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: grandma is letting me stay with her until I find 1371 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: a new place. And when my mom finds out, oh 1372 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 2: she's going to love this more material to make fun 1373 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: of me. Aw And yeah, no trip for me. I 1374 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: have packing an apartment hunting to do instead. Oh oh, 1375 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 2: pey what No, there's a comment and they said, why 1376 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 2: are you embarrassed because you got rid of a harmful 1377 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 2: ex op responds because after five years my boyfriend threw 1378 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 2: me out like a piece of trash that my mother 1379 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: will say I was right. You aren't capable of holding 1380 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 2: onto a relationship. You are unlovable, You are just impossible 1381 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story.