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Speaker 1: and obviously you guys have a new defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: Brian Flora's will I know a little bit about. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing that he can always work with is

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Speaker 1: BBS that can play everywhere. Which assets do we have

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Speaker 1: that we can still work with, What do we need

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Speaker 1: to keep, what can we keep and what do we

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Speaker 1: need to move on from? And it just feels like

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Speaker 1: there is that calculated angle and it's only year two

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Speaker 1: of whatever this plan is going to be a fl

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Speaker 1: free agency is often racing us. Over one hundred deals

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Speaker 1: just the first week of free agency. Welcome to episode

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Speaker 1: number two h six of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by PEPSI. We got the full band back together today.

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Speaker 1: I'll take them every Jay Nelson, Eric Davidson on the

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Speaker 1: ones and twos, and my name is Gabe Henderson, and

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Speaker 1: the four of us are knee deep and by far

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Speaker 1: one of the wildest free agency periods we have ever seen.

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Speaker 1: And in my opinion. I'll started off with just saying

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Speaker 1: I felt like that the NFL offseason unofficially kicked off

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Speaker 1: this past Friday, like around thirty pm March tenth, Adam

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Speaker 1: Scheffer tweeted, the Carolina Panthers are moving up in the

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Speaker 1: draft to acquire the number one overall pick from the Bears.

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Speaker 1: In every turn, the Bears received the first and second

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Speaker 1: I thought that was it. I thought, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the craziness started in my eyes for you guys,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like every single year it gets crazy

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Speaker 1: let alone anything else of guys that are complete free agents,

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Speaker 1: It goes back to the old question of hey, what

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Speaker 1: do you guys do in the offseason. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like Kevin O'Connell, Quasia Dopomenza. They are

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432
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Speaker 1: very cold weather, different climate for him moving forward. Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: I think the good thing is for Byron is you know,

434
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: he played in the Dome, so now he gets to

435
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Speaker 1: play in the Dome again. So yeah, it is cold,

436
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 1: but at least he doesn't have to worry about that

437
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: for home games. But one thing I want to ask

438
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Speaker 1: you about is Brian Flores, you played for him. You

439
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: played in New England that twenty eighteen year, And yeah,

440
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are saying, you know

441
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Speaker 1: where Brian Flores never had defensive coordinator title even though

442
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Speaker 1: he was a head coach. But that twenty eighteen season

443
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: he did called plays for that defense. So what do

444
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Speaker 1: you remember about that Brian Flores led defense in twenty

445
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Speaker 1: eighteen in New England. Flow, that's my guy in a

446
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: title or not. He was our defensive coordinator in eighteen.

447
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: I played thirteen years in the NFL. Everything a defensive

448
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: coordinator does, Flow did. He led every single defensive meeting.

449
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: He did all of those things. So it was no

450
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Speaker 1: different than any other coordinator I had. And the one

451
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Speaker 1: thing I think, as players, not myself myself includive, we

452
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Speaker 1: loved about Flow was he was aggressive and you knew

453
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Speaker 1: what he was thinking. I can remember being in games

454
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Speaker 1: where we get I would reference the Super Bowl for example,

455
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: we get to a situation where a second and long,

456
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Speaker 1: and throughout the entire season and those situations, Flow was

457
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Speaker 1: being aggressive and he was sending pressure and I remember

458
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: getting on the sideline and earlier in the game we

459
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Speaker 1: had that opportunity and we didn't blit. And he could

460
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Speaker 1: see him thinking about it. I think it was maybe

461
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Speaker 1: my brother said to him, my school of Flow, let's

462
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Speaker 1: go after him, and he was like, y'all, all right.

463
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Speaker 1: And I think that his ability to not only the

464
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Speaker 1: exes and ols and all of those things of spending

465
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Speaker 1: countless hours in the film role, but his ability to

466
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Speaker 1: connect with players and them to have a relationship with him.

467
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Speaker 1: As I look back at that two and eighteen season,

468
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Speaker 1: he challenged us throughout the entire year. We started the

469
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Speaker 1: season out one and two came off bad performances. I

470
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: remember having a meeting with only the core players in

471
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Speaker 1: there and some of the coaches, and him letting us

472
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Speaker 1: have it and letting us know that expectation was much

473
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Speaker 1: higher than that. I think guys want to play for Flow.

474
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to play at a high level for him.

475
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Speaker 1: In part is that why he is good at getting

476
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Speaker 1: the most out of players who are not necessarily the

477
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Speaker 1: most highly sought after, the most recruited, have had the

478
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: longest resumes, but they're able to be a part of

479
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Speaker 1: a strong defense. What is it about his coaching style

480
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: that helps with bringing the best out of players. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: I think that's part of his ability to be honest

482
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Speaker 1: and be transparent. But then I think also what the

483
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Speaker 1: definition of coaching is to me, You look across your room,

484
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Speaker 1: You see the talent, we see the strengths and the weaknesses,

485
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Speaker 1: and you find a way to bring those things together

486
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Speaker 1: to put a finished product on the field. I think

487
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Speaker 1: throughout my years playing, you'll have coaches that show up

488
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Speaker 1: and say, all right, this is my system. We run

489
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Speaker 1: at three four where a fire zone defense, and this

490
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: is what we're going to do. And then you look

491
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like, well, you don't have any of

492
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Speaker 1: the personnel to do what you're seeing your system is.

493
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Speaker 1: So I think, to me, coaching is being able to

494
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Speaker 1: adjust and be able to do it on the run

495
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Speaker 1: for what is in your room. And I think that's

496
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Speaker 1: what flow obviously with so much New England ties in

497
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: his history, that's what they've always been really good at

498
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: figuring out, how are we going to be able to

499
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: mold these guys and this defense of room to fit

500
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Speaker 1: whatever it is scheme that we need to do to

501
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Speaker 1: win a football game. And one week that could be

502
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: Bayern Murphy and those guys in the back end playing

503
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Speaker 1: predominantly man to man. The very next week, it could

504
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Speaker 1: be Hey, we're gonna have to move to his zone

505
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Speaker 1: scheme to be able to win this game. So determining

506
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Speaker 1: what it is how you're going to win that game

507
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Speaker 1: and how the pieces are going to fit into that

508
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Speaker 1: game plan. I think that's what Flow has the ability

509
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Speaker 1: to do and that's what we'll be able to do

510
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Yeah. I really like that point of the

511
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: versatility of not only the players but the coaching staff.

512
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Speaker 1: And that's something that you can tell that Brian Flores

513
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Speaker 1: just just I guess makes it known that that's what

514
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Speaker 1: he's big on. So just just hearing that. When it

515
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Speaker 1: comes to just addressing more holes on this defense, what

516
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: stands out to you that the Vikings could address via

517
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: free agency versus via draft. I think for them, you

518
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: look at last year the amount of points that they

519
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Speaker 1: put up from an offensive standpoint, and I think when

520
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Speaker 1: you do that, you have a guy like Justin Jefferson

521
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins spreading the ball around and you're able

522
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Speaker 1: to put points up. Defensively, from a philosophy standpoint, you've

523
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Speaker 1: got to have guys that can not only cover, but

524
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Speaker 1: guys that can get after the quarterback. And they were

525
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Speaker 1: able to do that a little bit last year, but

526
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Speaker 1: kind of sustaining that throughout the entire season. I think

527
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Speaker 1: it's going to be the main thing. Jerry Smith had

528
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Speaker 1: a great season on one side of the other defense

529
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Speaker 1: for them. How do you compliment that and find other

530
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Speaker 1: guys to go in there and get after the quarterback?

531
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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson was a guy who had a really good year.

532
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Speaker 1: He's now in Pittsburgh, so I think filling some of

533
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Speaker 1: those holes he brought in Bayern Murphy, who's gonna be

534
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: on the other Side's gonna be in the slot? Dancer

535
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: was released earlier in the off season, so I think

536
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Speaker 1: in the back end, you're going to need a good

537
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Speaker 1: mix of veterans and some of those young guys as

538
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Speaker 1: you start to build your nucleus. Who's going to be

539
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Speaker 1: your middle linebacker? Now? Kendricks is a guy that was

540
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: a staple in that franchise and it does a lot

541
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Speaker 1: of good things and a leader in the lockerman. So

542
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: when you lose a guy like that, how do you

543
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: replace him? Do you draft somebody it took go on place?

544
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Do you bring in the better I think those are

545
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: the decisions that have to be made, and the one

546
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: thing for the Vikings. They scored high as hell, and

547
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: the free agency survey dumb by the player. So the

548
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: cree agents, if you're looking at that, you may want

549
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: to head into that new building and get there. So

550
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Speaker 1: I think as exciting times, I will say I think

551
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin is a really good player. And when you

552
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Speaker 1: want to be able to win, your players that want

553
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: to win, you have to go somewhere where they have

554
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. And I think Kirk Cousins doesn't always get

555
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Speaker 1: the love that he deserves because he's not maybe of

556
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Speaker 1: the elite of the elite in the league, but he's

557
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Speaker 1: a guy that weekend in week out, he's able to

558
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Speaker 1: get the job done. Yeah, we know Good Morning Football

559
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: shows a lot of Kirk Cousins love, and we obviously

560
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. You know, you mentioned it though, that there

561
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Speaker 1: are several several guys that are no longer with the team.

562
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: There's new faces coming in. You've got a new defensive coordinator,

563
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Speaker 1: as a veteran player, someone who's been on this team,

564
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Speaker 1: or what is the mindset that they have approaching all

565
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: of this newness around them. Guys that have been here

566
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota for a little while from your perspective as

567
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: a former player, how do you attack all of that

568
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Speaker 1: newness and make sure guys like you know, Louis Scene,

569
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Speaker 1: Andrew Booth Junior, Caleb Evans are learning at a higher

570
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Speaker 1: rate with not so many veterans around. Yeah, I think

571
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: that's the challenge, and I think the veterans that are

572
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: left there, you're trying to continue to build on that culture.

573
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Speaker 1: And I think the one thing when I got to

574
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Speaker 1: New England that I truly appreciated. You had a nucleus

575
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Speaker 1: of guys that I played together for a while and

576
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: knew what the culture needed to be. And we're able

577
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: to set the example for a lot of the younger

578
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: guys walking into the building where it didn't need to

579
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: be a whole sit down conversation. We're just like, hey,

580
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Speaker 1: just go watch Matthew Sleeton and see what he does.

581
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Watch Devin mccordy, see what he does, Julian Ellum and

582
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: all of those guys, and you got to see the

583
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Speaker 1: example of what it looks like to be a prowle

584
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Speaker 1: on what it looks like to win. And I think

585
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: the one thing that we know is constant in the

586
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: NFL has changed. So you look at a guy like

587
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling, who's been really good there. He's now moving off.

588
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: But now you have guys that can step up. You

589
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: have a guy like kJ Oslin's coming off a really

590
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: good year, who got a chance to learn from Adam

591
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Speaker 1: Feeling in his time there in Minnesota. So now when

592
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: you bring young guys in, they're able to see kJ

593
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: Osborne and he was able to learn from Feeling, so

594
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: was Jefferson. So those examples are passed down and you

595
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: try to just hit the ground running. The one thing

596
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: when guys leave, you don't want to head to reset button,

597
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: have to start all over. So I think for them,

598
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: you got a new GM, you got a new head coach,

599
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: and you found the right guy. So the only way

600
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: to go from here is off. Up is the only

601
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: way that the Minnesota Vikings plan on going, And I

602
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: guess going up right now? Is this Aaron Rodgers news.

603
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: It's been reported, well, I guess he not reported at

604
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: this point. He even said it that he intends on

605
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: playing for the Jets. So for this Minnesota Vikings team,

606
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: what does that mean for us? In this division? It

607
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean much. And the reason I say that is

608
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota dominant last year throughout the regular season, had one

609
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: of the best records in the NFL throughout most of it.

610
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: They were able. They obviously broke even with the Greenway

611
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Packers that dominated them early on in the season. And

612
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: I think for Minnesota the question isn't in the division

613
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: of what they can or can't do. Then they show

614
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: last year that they can win a ton of games

615
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: and put themselves in position to make a run Adjescu.

616
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Speaker 1: The role for them is going to be more about

617
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: what everybody is saying about them. Can they show up

618
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: in the big game when you get to the playoffs?

619
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Speaker 1: Can you win those games? Can they build off of

620
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: what they did last year? But they able to figure

621
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Speaker 1: out why they weren't able to get over the hump. So,

622
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: of course Aaron Rodgers being out of the division, He's

623
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: bought so much hurting tears that whether Minnesota, Detroit, or

624
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Chicago throughout the years, saying bye to him is something

625
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure nobody is sad or upset about. But I

626
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: think for Minnesota Alarms, it wounds much bigger than just division.

627
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: For them is looking at the entire NFC and saying, hey,

628
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: those guys over in the AFC, like Get's a lot

629
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: tough to get to where we want to get to.

630
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: This is a great opportunity in this NFC to make

631
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: sure that we're pried and we're in a position to

632
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: make a run and get over the hump of what

633
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: we weren't able to do a year ago. Yeah, definitely.

634
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, the Vikings are

635
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: no longer going to be the underdogs in the NFC North.

636
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: You gotta target on your back after winning that championship,

637
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: and obviously still pieces and decisions to be made about

638
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: this roster as we move forward a little bit more

639
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: into the official time of free agency. She said, is

640
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: there a name out there that might be floating around

641
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: you think would be a good fit for this Vikings team? Oh? Wow,

642
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: there's so many guys. I think figuring out the right

643
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: fit is something that's always tough to do, especially when

644
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: you look at free agency because you don't really know

645
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: who guys are. I think for them, it would be

646
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: nice to see them get a receiver, and this is

647
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Speaker 1: a market that is not huge on wide receivers. They're

648
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Speaker 1: losing a guy like dealing and getting kJ Osmar an

649
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to step up into that position. But also trying

650
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: to maybe get a guy like DJ Charge that's coming

651
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: over from the Detroit minds and earned getting a guy

652
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: that possibly can show up in the slot or outside

653
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: when they go to the three wide receiver says. There's

654
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: been a lot of conversations around Dalvin Cook and his contract,

655
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Speaker 1: whether they going to do there, are they going to

656
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: need to possibly get a running back as all of

657
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: those guys are still available in free agency and probably

658
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: don't need a ton of money from a contract standpoint,

659
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: So I think those are some of the moves on

660
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball that they can make. Yeah,

661
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: that's a really good point. I'm just thinking of, you know,

662
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: still the open holes on the defensive side of the ball.

663
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Speaker 1: And I guess you've kind of been in Harrison Smith's

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Speaker 1: shoes right now, right you know, the veteran making plays

665
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: staple of a defense. But at the end of the day,

666
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: you know there's a you know, you probably got you know,

667
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: four or three or four really good years left and

668
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: you're helping build up a young safety. What was your

669
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Speaker 1: mindset as a player when you were reaching some of

670
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: those I guess, fine wine years. I think you're trying

671
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Speaker 1: to maximize your career at this point. And I think

672
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Speaker 1: for a guy like Harrison Smith, who's been so good

673
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: for the Viking, you want to be able to finish

674
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Speaker 1: your career. I just watched my brother do a player's

675
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: entire career with any my Patriots. But you also want

676
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: to make sure you're not selling yourself short. So you

677
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're getting the most that you

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Speaker 1: can out of your career from a contract standpoint and

679
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: then also from a winning standpoint. So I think a

680
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Speaker 1: guy like Harrison Smith is so big for them in

681
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: that organization because it goes beyond just the production that

682
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: you see that shows up in the stat sheet is

683
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Speaker 1: what he's able to do in the locker room, what

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Speaker 1: he's able to bring to the team. So he's a

685
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: guy as you get up there, you're trying to continue

686
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Speaker 1: to build on your legacy end the best way to

687
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: do so is trying to figure out what's the best

688
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: way to get a Super Bowl ring. I think for him,

689
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: he meant so much to them in that secondary. I

690
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: know for me, whenever I turned the film on, you

691
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: see him out the line of scrimmage and he looks

692
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: like he's about the blitz and on the sni app

693
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: of the ball he's haul and but to get back

694
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Speaker 1: to the middle of the field to play a safety position.

695
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Speaker 1: He's always been a ton of fun to watch. I

696
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Speaker 1: know someone who has a ton of fun watching the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings is your Good Morning Football co host Jamie Urtle,

698
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Speaker 1: who's a Minnesota native. Probably a little tired of talking

699
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: about the Purple and Gold a little bit, or I

700
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe she was good luck this season on

701
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Speaker 1: the show thirteen Wins. We Love, We Love especially I

702
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: love to get Jamie a hard time. It's like this

703
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: past season was like an emotional roller coaster for She'd

704
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Speaker 1: come in one day wearing all her purple and gold

705
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys they can She'd come in and

706
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: go on or rant early in the morning on what

707
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Speaker 1: Minnesota needs to do. But yeah, Jamie's been a joy

708
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: to have around, does such a great job for us

709
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Speaker 1: on the show. And I don't know if there's a

710
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: bigger Minnesota Vikings fan than her. You guys gotta get her.

711
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure she'll be going to breakdown and tell you

712
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: every single player that they need to bring it to

713
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: get to where they need to get. But yeah, she's

714
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Speaker 1: been She's been awesome on the show, and she surely

715
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Speaker 1: surely loves our Minnesota. Yeah, I guess who's who's a

716
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Speaker 1: bigger fan? Is Kyle Brand a bigger fan of Kirk

717
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Cousins versus Jamie Urdall and just the Vikings overall? Oh, Kyle,

718
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: Bryan Kirk Cousins. But if Kyle could move in and

719
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Speaker 1: just live with the entire one, he would. He'd come

720
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: in with his stammy pack on, shirt tucked in and

721
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: he personified everything that is Kirk Cousins. Whenever he gets

722
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: a chance to mention Kirk Cousins and Applebee's or chain

723
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: restaurant or get his car, uh, he always does. So

724
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Speaker 1: he loves himself and Kirk Cousin. I mean, you can't

725
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Speaker 1: knock Kirk. He's got a brand. He has a brand brand.

726
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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much Jason mccordy for

727
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Speaker 1: being on the Minnesota Maakings podcast with us today. You

728
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Speaker 1: can catch him as the host of NFL Networks Good

729
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: Morning Football Arey Monday through Friday at six am Central Time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and have a great week next

731
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Speaker 1: week at your at your brother's retirement ceremony. Well, I'll

732
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Speaker 1: give him a hard time to congratulations. Congratulations huge, Thank

733
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Speaker 1: you too. Jason mccordy from NFL Network. You can see

734
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: him every morning on Good Morning Football, like six am,

735
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: like Tatum everytte just said. But now we move to

736
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: just the free agency frenzy around the league and not

737
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: just the Vikings in just looking at the North and

738
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: some of the other teams. The biggest news right now

739
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he's never going to be right right.

740
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: I think everybody in Wisconsin outside of the city of

741
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: Green Bay loves that Aaron Rodgers isn't there. So when

742
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: you look at just the state of this NFC North Division,

743
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears spend one hundred million dollars on defense

744
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: in the first day. The Packers don't have Aaron Rodgers.

745
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: The lines are trying to figure things out and build

746
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: through the draft and free agency. What is the state

747
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: of this? Oh boy, I think the state of this

748
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: division so much unknown? Right, yeah, well but but legitimately

749
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Speaker 1: because you know, well, the Aaron Rodgers side of it is,

750
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a changing of the guard there, you know.

751
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I think when we initially saw Jordan Love when he

752
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: first got his chance, when Aaron got injured, he kind

753
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: of struggled a little bit and everything, but then last

754
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: year he got into a game and he looked kind

755
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: of good. And that's the whole thing of going, well,

756
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of the recipe they had before with Aaron

757
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: sitting for a couple of years behind fire and he

758
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: walked in the door, same kind of thing. Now you're

759
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: kind of watering it with Jordan Love, and we're all

760
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of gritting our teeth, going, I don't want to

761
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: deal with another ten to fifteen years of quarterback play

762
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: that way. But you know, again, there's gonna be a

763
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: lot of question marks happening there. But in Green Bay,

764
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: their front office obviously feels like transitioning and making this

765
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: move to Jordan Love is going to be their future

766
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: Bears wise, you know, spending as much as they've spent.

767
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I see a Kyrie blazing game there. He was a

768
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: guy that was originally a camp guy for the Vikings,

769
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: and he went on to have some successes a couple

770
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: other franchises, and now the Bears jumped on him here

771
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: for a two year extension. Even more so you're seeing him.

772
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: They add DJ Moore and then to get in a

773
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: couple of the big linebackers there as well to bring

774
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: them in. I just free agencies weird for me because

775
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: at first I used to be the guy that was

776
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: that loved the splash plays of all the free agent guys.

777
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, look at all these big name guys

778
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: and the big name talent that's coming in. And then

779
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: over the years I have converted to the free agencies

780
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: nice and you can add those little those bigger name pieces,

781
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: but you really do need to have the lifeblood of

782
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: your organization be through the draft. So whenever I see

783
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Speaker 1: organizations like you remember a couple of years ago when

784
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: the Jaguars did a similar bit where they drop, you know,

785
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty some million or fifty million dollars

786
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: in free agency, even the Bengals. But but the thing

787
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: with the Jags when they did it, Everyone's just like,

788
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: how is this going to work? You know, they're just

789
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: throwing money at the situation. But they seemed like they

790
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: found their coach and their orderback to help with that

791
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: augmentation of adding those top tier players in free agency.

792
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Speaker 1: So I'm skeptical when I see teams spend like crazy

793
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Speaker 1: in free agency, especially initially, but if they have a

794
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: solid foundation. That's when it gets scary. They had the money.

795
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Speaker 1: What else would they do though? But that's the thing

796
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: is they you have the money, but if you're going

797
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: to throw a massive contracts like this, then you're going

798
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: to get to a point where you're gonna be pushing

799
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: up against a salary cap similar to some of these

800
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: other teams, as these guys get older. My whole point

801
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: is you have to have that younger group of talented

802
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: players on the lower contracts to offset that. But the

803
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs are a little different and that Yeah, the giant

804
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: chunk of their salary cap is eaten up by their quarterback,

805
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: but because of his talent and his success, you have

806
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: veteran players who will come in on league minimums in

807
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: order to then potentially chase a ring. So it kind

808
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: of depends what your organizations like. If your organization is

809
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: on the come up and it feels like they're going

810
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: to have success and chase rings, you will get guys

811
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: to sign for lesser dollars to make it fit under

812
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: the salary cap. But for teams that are struggling, it

813
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily spending big contracts in free agency that tends

814
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: to fix their overall roster. They also have ten picks

815
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, Yeah, they're gonna be fine. Yeah, they're

816
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: ten picks, four in the first three rounds, and three

817
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: of them are from trades. So I think that's been

818
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: a lot of creativity. But that's as much as restraint

819
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: as Poles has practiced the last year. I think this

820
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: is his time to like really put his plan into action.

821
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Speaker 1: And that's the point I was talking talking before the podcast,

822
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: even just saying the thing about the Bears is you

823
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: have to figure out they have struggled. They made a

824
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: run to the Super Bowl, They've had issues with quarterbacks

825
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: over the years. They had a great defense, and the

826
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Speaker 1: whole thing got completely blown up in the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: You know, they made the Khalil Knack trade and we

828
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: all were shaken in our boots going that defense is

829
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: unbelievably scary, and yet they did nothing formally with it

830
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: and completely imploded to the point where they're head coach

831
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Speaker 1: got fired, the GM got fired, and now they're trying

832
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: to figure it out again. Yeah. So the question with

833
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the Bears is is the new front office with the

834
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Speaker 1: GM and the new head coach and kind of building

835
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Speaker 1: around the quarterback or the future that they feel like

836
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: they currently have trading the first round picks or number

837
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: one pick, etc. Is it a systemic issue with the

838
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: Bears or was it the previous regime with the Bears?

839
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: And that's what's going to be fascinating to watch play out,

840
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: because if it is systemic within the organization, all of

841
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: the money that they're spending and all those draft picks,

842
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: they still have to hit on those and to fix

843
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: the problems that they've had for the years. Versus if

844
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: they do have the right people, then they are they

845
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: are completely on the launchpad to completely go crazy within

846
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: this division, especially now that as topsy turvy with Aaron Rodgers,

847
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, walking out the door. The Lions are probably

848
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the team almost worried about. Like they have four picks

849
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: in the top fifty five this year in a draft

850
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in cap space. I mean one of

851
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Speaker 1: their their fifty fifth I guess they're second round pick

852
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: is our second round pick and TJ. Hockinson who we

853
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: traded for last year, and I'm just looking at that,

854
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: and you know, they got David Montgomery. They have just

855
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: certain pieces that they're building and I'm like, man, like

856
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: they're They're really trying to make some noise in the

857
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: NFC North. So there are other teams in this division

858
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: basically saying, hey, why not us. They're the example of

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about with the Bears. They feel like

860
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: they finally got their footing. They feel like they have

861
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: a head coach, they feel like they have a front office,

862
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: they have coaching staff around him, and they've got and

863
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: identified a bunch of young players. The biggest question what

864
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: the Lions is is goff their future for at quarterback

865
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: or do they make a move to try and address

866
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: and find a super stud quarterback for the future with

867
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: given all those different kind of picks that they have.

868
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like what the Lions did at the

869
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: end of last season spoke for itself. I think everybody

870
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: feels like they figured something out for the second half

871
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: of that season after going one for on the front

872
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: half and then basically just going bananas in the back end.

873
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I think they are a scary team. They just have to.

874
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: You knew that success in this offseason, and man, I

875
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: think they look at as the divisions right for the picking,

876
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: which I mean, I think it was kind of could

877
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: the NFC North be like really good in two years

878
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: one year, Like, could this be like a hyper right?

879
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Could this be like the AFC A couple east? Sorry,

880
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: what is the one at the east? The one with

881
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the sorry west East? But to your point,

882
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: But to your point, the East is probably going to

883
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: be the West this year. So I think the East

884
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: is going to be good. The NFC West was that

885
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: way a few years ago too, when you had Russell

886
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Wilson back in Seattle. Still the Niners were loaded. The

887
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals had just had Kyler and they were loaded. Like

888
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: this stuff all kind of gets cyclical, and um, you know,

889
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: the NFC North hasn't been completely competitive for gosh, it's

890
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: probably been close to a decade. But and I think

891
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with the fact

892
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: that everyone always kind of felt like, well, the Lions

893
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: are the Lions and the dormat. I mean, if now,

894
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all potentially all four organizations are

895
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: really doing the reload and getting set up for the future,

896
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: I think that could be really fun and exciting because

897
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: it means every single week is going to be a

898
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: competitive game, especially within the division. Yeah, it's like two

899
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: teams are you know building I guess by imploding when

900
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Lions, and then you have the

901
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Packers and then us that are trying this competitive rebuild

902
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: and getting wins, getting draft picks, getting free agents in

903
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: so far as working. At least it worked for us

904
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: last year we were thirteen and four, trying to running

905
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: back and win a division again. But I wrote down

906
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: some names on this on this free agency script for today,

907
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you guys, out of all

908
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: the name even if there aren't names on this list,

909
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: in your opinion, who is the biggest free agents signing

910
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: or one of the biggest or surprising signings that you've

911
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: seen thus far. I don't want to say that Aaron

912
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers surprises me, because like, oh, I've been on the Jets.

913
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: I've thought that for some time now. I think Alan

914
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: Lazard surprises me a little bit, especially at the price

915
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: that he's getting. Um. Not that I fully believe that

916
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to the Jets and was like I

917
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: need these four players or I'm not coming here, but

918
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: I really feel like the Jets were such a competitive

919
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: team to begin with that they really were only missing

920
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: that quarterback piece. So if they looked him and they

921
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: were like, no, we have all the pieces, Like what

922
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: would have happened? I don't know, no clue wasn't you know,

923
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: obviously not privy to those conversations. So I think for

924
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: me probably Alan Lazard. Okay, I think the Lazard thing

925
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: was very interesting because if the ideas Aaron Rodgers is

926
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: going to the Jets and he's been complaining that the

927
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: packers didn't surround him with enough playmakers, and then he

928
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: was potentially advocating for Lazard, Cobb and Mercedes Lewis to

929
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: show up in New York. Like those are like the

930
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: guys that you were working with before, So what is

931
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: new exactly? That's my point. So that's a good point.

932
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: And that's and that's the thing. It's a comfort thing. Oh,

933
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: he just needs his friends staying out with them. But

934
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: that's my thought is like if the complaint has been

935
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had the weapons, but now he wants

936
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: the similar weapons in New York. It just felt interesting

937
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: to me that that was a thing. I didn't want

938
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: to talk about him. He nates me. Hey, he's nauseating

939
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: the entire media. A couple of weeks he is, he

940
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: is driving eyeballs to the pat McAfee show at this point.

941
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Pat pet enjoys it. At this point, I

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: think the most surprising. I'm not going to say one

943
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: specific thing, but there were two moves that happened within

944
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the same organization that really was intriguing to me. The

945
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: fact that Dallas finally cut the chord for Ezekiel Elliott

946
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: and they traded for Gilmore, who's thirty two years old.

947
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: That you know, his pedigree speaks for itself given everything

948
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: that he's done in this league. But the fact that

949
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: they traded for a thirty two year old cornerback in

950
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: in Stefan Gilmore, and then they let Zeke go and

951
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: they also then franchise tagged Pollard, but Pollard broke his

952
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: leg at the end of the season. So like the

953
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys always have the headlines, every chaos, all the

954
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: all the sanity with them, but for that to be

955
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: what happened in free agency, Like on the contrast, think

956
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: about what we just talked about with our guys that

957
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: we let go early and giving them that kind of

958
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: respect to be like, hey, guys, go find what you

959
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: can and you wait until the final hour and then

960
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: you finally cut zeke I know that Zeke was always

961
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: a guy that Jerry Jones was constantly championing for, even

962
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: when Pollard was playing better. He's like, Nope, Zeke's our guy.

963
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: He's the one that we're gonna you know, he's gonna

964
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: be our bell cow and this is what we're gonna

965
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: do for them to finally cut the chord at this

966
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: point at his age, but to wait till the last

967
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: second was surprising to me as far as that whole

968
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: respect thing goes as an organization. And maybe they were

969
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: literally waiting till the last second, trying to negotiate, trying

970
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: to restruct the thing. Maybe they were trying to find

971
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: a way to make it work, and he just couldn't

972
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: let it happen. But it was still surprising to me

973
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: that at the very last moment was when you found

974
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: out that that move was made. Now we look at

975
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Zeke as the guy who snapped the ball in the

976
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: last play of the game when the Cowboys played the

977
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers last year and got bull rushed in

978
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: the league of what have you done for me lately?

979
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: That does not make Zeke look good? You know what

980
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I saw some tweet and I was

981
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe this is what it was referenced to. They did

982
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: not remember that, but it was his final play as

983
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: a Cowboy. It was that whoever went Zeke will get

984
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: a good center. And I was like, oh no, oh,

985
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: Now on their depth chart, who do they have besides Pollard?

986
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: They have oh, I don't know off the top of

987
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: my head. But the Cowboys always have had a really

988
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: good offensive line, so they can make anyone running back

989
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: look good, like I can. I can see you when

990
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: they weren't, and they just kept drafting him every single year.

991
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Like I've seen Alexander Maddison's name linked to the Cowboys

992
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: and hopefully that doesn't happen. But at the same time,

993
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I could see him Malik Das, Malik Davis, that's it,

994
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: that's it, okay, Malik Well, and they did, they did

995
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: resign a you know, Vander Esh That's good. I mean,

996
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: but is it not the most Cowboys move ever to

997
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: try and get up in the draft and take b

998
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Jehan Rabinson just running backwise, I mean, well from Texas, yea,

999
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: from Texas. The Longhorn, I mean, he's belt in. I

1000
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: can see Jerry Jones like salivating right now over genre

1001
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: no matter, no matter what their needs are, that's who

1002
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: if he I feel like, if Jerry Jones has an

1003
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: eye on one point, no matter what the need, that's

1004
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: who they're gonna get. Is going to be the thing

1005
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be the thing where everyone's trying to

1006
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: pry the phone away from from Jerry Jones hand, like,

1007
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: do not make this back this is what he wants

1008
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: or he signs full Lovis, Yeah, that would be a

1009
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: Dallas thing. My biggest I would say, my biggest surprise

1010
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: is just the Atlanta Falcons. Like in general, they spent

1011
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: over two hundred and sixty million in free agency on

1012
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: day one, and uh, I have a weird theory that

1013
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: they're making all these moves to sign Lamar Jackson, like

1014
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: they're clearing cap space while still extending guys, and then

1015
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: they had they still have enough room to sign Lamar

1016
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: to his deal. And when you get a blocking tight

1017
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: and you sign a blocking tight end and John hu

1018
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Smith resign a fullback, you got Chris Lyndstrom uh signing

1019
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: a one hundred and five years, one hundred and five

1020
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: million dollars extension, by those are small moves to get

1021
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future. So meanwhile, they're putting out

1022
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: reports that they're not interested. So I like the game

1023
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: they play if that's the case. Right. Look, I mean

1024
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: whenever certain people tweet certain things, I'm not going to

1025
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: name names about teams not interested or teams really leaning

1026
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: towards another player, I'm like, believe the opposite of whatever

1027
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: they so it would be nice. I mean, Taylor Honeke

1028
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: just signed a two year, twenty million dollars deal with

1029
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. I have to go back home, exactly.

1030
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: But you know they have Desmond Ritter also, so I

1031
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: just see Lamar making that move this year. Who knows,

1032
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: but they've made a lot of a lot of transactions

1033
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: and free agency for me to feel that way. I

1034
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: know that the Lamar situation is weird just in general,

1035
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: given his current or lack of representation when it comes

1036
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: to agents. But I am curious about that one because

1037
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: if you're the city of Baltimore, in the the Ravens organization,

1038
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: your fan base, you do not want to see that

1039
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: man leave, given what he could be. But it just

1040
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: seems so weird given that there really is nobody there

1041
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: that we know of that's negotiating on his behalf. I

1042
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: know there's the discussion that he's got family people that

1043
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: understand the mo of how all that works and can

1044
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: help him negotiate. But it is a weird deal to

1045
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: have somebody that big and to have it get to

1046
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: where it is currently, to have a Lamar Jackson as

1047
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: a player negotiating for himself, and just to feel like

1048
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: there's been publicly at least no traction that's been seemed

1049
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: to be made at this point. It was such a

1050
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: high profile athlete. It just reminds me of like, what's

1051
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: his name, Richard Sherman was his own agent for a

1052
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: while and he negotiated his big time deal in Seattle.

1053
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people were saying, well,

1054
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: he was a corner back instead of a quarterback and

1055
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: wasn't dealing with that kind of money. But at the

1056
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: same time, with Lamar and his family kind of knows

1057
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: what to do. Then, hey, they figured out three years,

1058
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three million. They figure that out,

1059
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: So maybe he does need an agent, who knows. But

1060
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: it's just a weird situation overall, very much, just a

1061
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: weird situation overall, which I'm gonna just sit here in

1062
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: my popcorn. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here for all of it.

1063
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: Give me my icy popcorn, laffy taffy's. I don't eat

1064
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: chocolate or peanut butter, So give me whatever candy you

1065
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: got and we'll go from there. Here's my curveball. Yeah,

1066
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Darren Waller trade Giants. Yeah, to the Giants for a

1067
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: third round pick, and that was basically the pick that

1068
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: they got and Darius Tony move. And so I did

1069
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: see somebody saying, So, what you're telling me is that, uh,

1070
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: in exchange they got Darren Waller and the Eagles not

1071
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, then they're okay with everything,

1072
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: because that's true. I'm just upset that Darren Waller just

1073
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: got married to Kelsey Plum and then traded his gift

1074
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: is Hey, you're moved to New York, New York. So

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00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like they always bring that

1076
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: all brings us back to you, this Minnesota Vikings team.

1077
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Ko and Quacy at the

1078
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: combine and them just saying their awareness of what other

1079
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: teams are doing helps them make decisions that are best

1080
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: for this Minnesota Vikings team. And just from you guys's standpoint,

1081
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: how would you just assess just Quacy and Kevin's offseason approach.

1082
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: When it comes to free agency, I think they're just

1083
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: very calculated. They don't pull the trigger super fast. They're

1084
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: very particular with who they go and get who they're

1085
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: interested in signing, and I think that they rely a

1086
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: lot on Reprezinski to move the salary cap around and

1087
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: crunch all the numbers. I don't think they're done by

1088
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: any means, and I'm excited to see how they play

1089
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: this game on the long run, right like they I

1090
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: feel like they're playing a long term game, which is

1091
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: nice to see. They're not just like selling it all

1092
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: because they had thirteen wins and they're like, oh, we

1093
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: can wear a team that can win now. Yeah, They're

1094
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: like you think about any other form of business. Whenever

1095
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: there's some sort of a leadership change that happens, typically

1096
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: there's the throw the baby out with the bathwater attitude

1097
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: on a lot of things. And it feels like these

1098
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: guys are much more calculated when it comes to which

1099
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: assets do we have that we can still work with,

1100
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: what do we need to keep, what can we keep,

1101
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: and what do we need to move on from. And

1102
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: it just feels like there is that calculated angle, and

1103
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: it's only year two of whatever this plan is going

1104
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: to be. I think it's going to be probably three

1105
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: to four seasons before they can fully implement what they want.

1106
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: And so we're only in year two of of a

1107
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, kind of restructure on their end. And even

1108
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: think about the fact that not only are you doing

1109
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: it on the player side, but then you have a

1110
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: brand new defensive coordinator coming in looking at a completely

1111
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: different scheme of what they want. You're just going to

1112
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: see a lot of moves, in my opinion, that are

1113
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: going to be like the word that keeps getting thrown around,

1114
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: intentional as far as what they're looking for. And I

1115
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: for one of them, just you know, willing to sit

1116
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: here and watch it all play out because it is.

1117
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting just to see the shift in dynamics what

1118
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: we had for essentially sixteen seasons and to now go

1119
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: into year two with the new leadership into Kennessee kind

1120
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: of what direction they're going to take the team. It's

1121
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: something we haven't had for a very long time. Yeah,

1122
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: it's always well, at least the last year, it's been

1123
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: tough to kind of figure out Quacy and Kevin's identity

1124
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to just free agents. But I feel

1125
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: like as days go on, we're starting to figure out

1126
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: how Quacy and Kevin view free agency and like work

1127
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: certain guys, how certain guys fit to certain pieces of

1128
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: the puzzle, and it'll be interests and see how it

1129
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: all shakes out. But I think that my last thing,

1130
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: my last question for you guys is what would be

1131
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: the ideal free agent out there that would make sense

1132
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: for this Minnesota Vikings team or position group? Position group.

1133
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Let's not talk players, position group just for free agency,

1134
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: won't talk draft, So for me, I'll start with just linebackers.

1135
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: I do think there are linebackers in free agency that

1136
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: are out there that you probably won't the pay as

1137
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: much as you think, that could definitely have some value

1138
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: for this Brian Floor as a defense. You have to

1139
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: think about it that way because Brian Asomoda and play

1140
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: a full season linebacker and they want too more dependable

1141
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: someone to play alongside h because I do think that's important.

1142
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: I would also say receiver would be good to see. Yeah,

1143
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: I think receivers big right now. You know you want

1144
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: to find someone that's a little bit less expensive than

1145
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Adam Delon, same impact, or someone that can really challenge

1146
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: kJ and see who kind of takes that number two

1147
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: spot during camp. I think the most glaring subtraction from

1148
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: this roster has been probably the Delvin Tomlinson piece. And

1149
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: so as much as last year the discussion was lack

1150
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: of you know, pass rush at times, and especially holding

1151
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: that defensive line and not given up two three yard

1152
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: push from the opposing offensive line coming at you. You know,

1153
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: just different different phases of certain games. I think trying

1154
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: to find somebody that can help Harrison Phillips and those

1155
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: guys be that anchor in the middle um that Delvin

1156
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, was holding on for us. I think that's

1157
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: a crucial part that hopefully you can go out and

1158
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: find somebody else I can come in and making him impact.

1159
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: And just depth, yeah, depth in general, and a lot

1160
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: of those spots that you've already signed guys in well, corners, linebackers,

1161
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you guard would be good. Tone. I think

1162
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: all the things that we had talked about at RAND

1163
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: the last season, every single position except for one just

1164
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: kidding which one quarterback we're going to QB right now,

1165
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver were terms of Nick Mullins, Okay, yeah we're yeah,

1166
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: we should be good there. I think we're okay. In

1167
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: special teams, cana is fine punter kicker. We might need

1168
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: to figure out who the punt return Baker's back, right,

1169
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean that could be a competition there, true, true, yeah.

1170
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's second season, second season for this this

1171
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: front office and these coaches, and I think they they

1172
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: now know officially what they're working with. You know, like

1173
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: you can come in in the off season as a

1174
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: brand new coaching staff and go like, I think we

1175
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: know what we got here. But after you've put him

1176
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: through kind of your paces for the first year and

1177
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: they understand where you're at, and then you start to

1178
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: see what you get out of them, hopefully doing things

1179
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: like you know, resigning at Kenny Wilkis and and looking

1180
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: at some of the other guys that you have, uh

1181
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: you know already currently on roster that were rookies or

1182
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: second your your players depth wise, thinking about it's your

1183
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: time to step up and you know, let's see what

1184
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: you guys can do for us, you know, thinking about

1185
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: like a tong type player, having those guys step up

1186
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: into some of these positions and really, uh, you know, flourish.

1187
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: This was funny. This is this is only week one

1188
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: a free agency literally forty five minutes into free agency

1189
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: at this point, like this, like it's the most I'm

1190
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: not even gonna say, wowdest but like this is a

1191
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: wild time of the year. Yeah, and it's exciting, very

1192
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: much so, but it's also nerve wrecking if you're just

1193
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: like a rube and you're trying to figure everything. Were

1194
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: just like, man, where he's where's he going? Where's he going?

1195
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how it all shakes out.

1196
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: Next week we'll talk more free agency. I'm sure there'll

1197
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: be more moves. Stay tuned the Vikings dot com. There

1198
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: will be interviews coming up with some of the recent

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Speaker 1: free agent signing, So just stay tuned. Every day is

1200
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: going to be a new day. Every hour is going

1201
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: to be a new hour, So expect news at random times,

1202
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: but just stay tuned. There's also a tracker online. There

1203
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: is a tracker. Yeah, I definitely want to help Pump Craig.

1204
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: Peter's working really hard on. If you want like a

1205
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: rundown of it all without really having to do a

1206
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: ton of reading, check out this tracker online. Yeah, for

1207
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: all you visual visual learners out there, the tracker is

1208
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: for you. Everyone that listens to today's podcast, would appreciate you,

1209
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: and for Eric Davidson, Tatum, Everett, Jay Notson. My name

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Speaker 1: is Gabe Henderson. We'll see you all next week.