Speaker 1: Walk up to NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sports Book,
Speaker 1: where we're out of our walking boot. I am Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesleyan Podcast studio with Steve
Speaker 1: Weisch and Patrick Claybond.
Speaker 2: Maybe Justin Herbert's back this week, Baby, he's not.
Speaker 3: Who knows it's it'd be tough to imagine.
Speaker 4: We had this conversation with Jordan Love, Like last week
Speaker 4: we were watched a guy like hobble out there and
Speaker 4: throw one pass a practice. Some people like Love's back
Speaker 4: and it's like, wait, why would why would they do
Speaker 4: that here so early in the season. I understand they
Speaker 4: lost last week, Steve, but this, this is.
Speaker 5: What Jim Harbaugh was like, Well, we had him up
Speaker 5: there gats Alex High School with the TJ.
Speaker 3: Why what's right?
Speaker 5: You know, let's go ahead and put him out there, get Stone,
Speaker 5: Cole Jones and at George, Carl Aftis and and Dana
Speaker 5: and all of you know.
Speaker 3: He could ticket handle it.
Speaker 2: It is crazy. We'll get to that game soon.
Speaker 1: But yes, Justin Herbert is progressing, according to Harbor, and
Speaker 1: that just was was sticking in my mind. How badly
Speaker 1: like these teams want to win this game for to us,
Speaker 1: it feels early week four, But like if you've just
Speaker 1: had a loss in your Jim Harbaugh or you're one
Speaker 1: of these zero to three teams, it feels late.
Speaker 2: They gotta gotta get a w.
Speaker 3: You never have to balance out anything to say Jim Harbaugh. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now when you're you're watching Taylor Heinekee you practice, you
Speaker 4: look over herbo and you're like, all right, man, let's
Speaker 4: get that hyper hyperbolic chamber. Not the hyperbolic chamber.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's DVZ. What was What was t o
Speaker 3: N is the.
Speaker 5: You're killing Greg though. I mean if you don't mention
Speaker 5: an Eastern stick's name like.
Speaker 1: Greg, No, No, that's good. No, I'm glad it should
Speaker 1: be Taylor Heineke. That's not the first game we're gonna
Speaker 1: mention it. It's the second. Because we're going from the
Speaker 1: biggest to the smallest spreads this week, we're just we're
Speaker 1: just flipping it on its head.
Speaker 4: Because the league has been flipping it on its head
Speaker 4: because man, big favorites have been coming up short time
Speaker 4: after time again, including a team that we saw win
Speaker 4: in Week one and that is the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: But they're having to come all the way out here
Speaker 4: to Santa Clara to take on the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 4: who are a ten point favorite. Despite all of the injuries,
Speaker 4: we spent portions of the game with no Trent Williams,
Speaker 4: no George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk was playing, Deebo Samuel wasn't.
Speaker 4: Of course, Juwan Jennings goes off Greg ten points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Although I'm afraid of taking the Patriots in any scenario
Speaker 1: after me and you Patrick both took them straight up
Speaker 1: last week and it was the most one sided game
Speaker 1: this side of Buffalo Jacksonville. Yeah, that's too much for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to choose it, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the points there. And yet I certainly would take the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers because look, their quarterback is playing outstanding.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go positive and say that was one of
Speaker 1: the best Black Black party games I ever saw. When
Speaker 1: I turned on that tape and I went through, I
Speaker 1: was like, did he have almost a perfect day? I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's running the ball, well, the guys aren't that open.
Speaker 1: He had the second highest tight window throw rate in
Speaker 1: the league so far this season, so you haven't seen
Speaker 1: a lot of open receivers. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: yak right now, so their offense is a little off.
Speaker 1: But Jordan Mason is a good running back. They're moving
Speaker 1: the ball, and perty I think is showing he actually
Speaker 1: can elevate. He just needs some help from his defense
Speaker 1: and special teams. The offense really hasn't been the problem.
Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't hurt if Brandon Ayuke held onto the ball. Yes,
Speaker 5: he is off to a tough start, and once he
Speaker 5: gets going, then this offense is going to open up.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 5: Ten is way too big of a number because his
Speaker 5: Patriot's defense is pretty good. I mean, for everything you
Speaker 5: just said about Brock Purt, his Patriots defense is not bad.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I push back on that just a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I thought coming into the year, But
Speaker 1: in reality the last two weeks, their front's been pushed
Speaker 1: around a little bit. Christian Gonzales is good, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. They were kind of dominated last week against
Speaker 1: the Jets and just up front.
Speaker 2: I wasn't thrilled against this.
Speaker 5: I'm checking that. It's just like, Okay, Week three was nuts.
Speaker 5: I think they'll be better this week. I just the
Speaker 5: ten points is a lot that over unders thirty nine
Speaker 5: point five probably on the mark, because I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: surprised if by the fourth quarter we are seeing Tom
Speaker 5: Drake May a lot more conversation about Drake May getting
Speaker 5: playing time, getting thirty percent or more of the first
Speaker 5: team reps. In practice, you can see Jacoby Brissett is
Speaker 5: back on that turnstyle.
Speaker 4: Well, then the thing is, maybe Jacoby is looking over
Speaker 4: at this forty four point eight percent pressure rate that
Speaker 4: the offensive line right is allowing. It says, all right, Rook,
Speaker 4: go ahead there, get in there and try to make
Speaker 4: it work, because it's I too would say that ten
Speaker 4: points is too many. But then, having as Greg mentioned,
Speaker 4: picked the Patriots to the Jets, I don't know if
Speaker 4: ten points is going to be enough considering just how
Speaker 4: poorly they protected Jacoby present throughout that game. And then
Speaker 4: on the other side, brock Party he and Joe Burrow
Speaker 4: have legitimate complaints as two guys that played spectacular football
Speaker 4: in Week three and still came up with the loss.
Speaker 4: It's just the universe collaborating to make sure it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Right, So this is, you know, the a two time
Speaker 1: NFC championship team in the forty nine, coming off a loss,
Speaker 1: knowing that they need a win, you kind of trust
Speaker 1: them in this spot. But the case for the Patriots
Speaker 1: keeping it close is, hey, this is one front actually
Speaker 1: that the Patriots might be able to protect Jacoby. This
Speaker 1: has been a bad defense. They haven't been able to
Speaker 1: rush the passer. It's Bosa and not much else up front.
Speaker 1: They have some weaknesses in coverage with Campbell and Isaac
Speaker 1: Yadam has been struggled. Their special teams is among the
Speaker 1: worst in the league, killing them every week. So it's
Speaker 1: a game where they could they could. I think Jacoby
Speaker 1: is going to survive and play maybe his best game
Speaker 1: of the year because of the matchup.
Speaker 5: Remember Javon Hargraves out for the year too, tourist triceps,
Speaker 5: so you know, the stud interior tackle that's an issue.
Speaker 5: But I was about to say that one thing about
Speaker 5: the Niners defensively, they have got to be sick. They
Speaker 5: could not get the Rams off the field in the
Speaker 5: second half, especially on third down last week. They're getting
Speaker 5: hit on all kinds of intermediate routes. They're going to
Speaker 5: have to tighten some things up if they're going to
Speaker 5: continue to be the supposed dominant team in the NFC.
Speaker 2: Then again, that was Sean mcaher running it up.
Speaker 1: Show me something, Alex van Pel, I need to see
Speaker 1: a little something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what if I told you got your lunch taken
Speaker 4: sixty percent of the time that you walked into the cafeteria.
Speaker 4: The Patriots are getting hit behind the line of scrimmage
Speaker 4: fifty eight percent of the time on their carriers. It's
Speaker 4: bad at ten points. Ten points, might be might be irrational.
Speaker 4: The second biggest spread of the week is right over there,
Speaker 4: across the other side of the building and across the
Speaker 4: street from US at SOFI Stadium. The Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 4: seven and a half point favorites at the Chargers. Jim Nantz,
Speaker 4: Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson on the call, they're probably
Speaker 4: in meetings looking at Justin Herbert's ankle. We're going to
Speaker 4: be doing that all week, trying to figure out who's
Speaker 4: actually going to start Steve. Regardless, the Chargers could be
Speaker 4: in a tough situation.
Speaker 5: Seven and a half is too big for me, just
Speaker 5: because the Chiefs are going to make it tight no
Speaker 5: matter what.
Speaker 3: They're just that team.
Speaker 5: They don't wipe teams out, you know, Jim Harball will
Speaker 5: have the Chargers regardless if it's Taylor Heineke, whomever fired
Speaker 5: up to play this game. You know, the Chiefs are
Speaker 5: having to grind out every win. I do think this
Speaker 5: is gonna be a big Travis Kelcey game. The Chargers
Speaker 5: number Derwin James is suspended for this game, so they
Speaker 5: don't have the matchup that's gonna afford, you know, to
Speaker 5: put a man on Kelsey.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be zone.
Speaker 5: We know Kelsey is the big zone beater, so for
Speaker 5: all the questions about him, I think he's gonna go off.
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna see more of that guy there,
Speaker 5: Rashie Rice, who's outstanding. But seven and a half just
Speaker 5: too big of a number. I think the Chiefs went
Speaker 5: out right, but to seven.
Speaker 3: And a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're I should have mentioned at the top
Speaker 1: last week we were bold, we were united, and we survived.
Speaker 1: We picked as a Seattle Seahawks as a team together.
Speaker 1: After yeah, it didn't go so well the first few weeks.
Speaker 1: We wanted to jump back in and help everyone in
Speaker 1: their survivor polls. That wasn't the biggest spread of the week,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna pick up again today as a team.
Speaker 1: As a team preview show team, I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are great option. You're saying that the Chargers might keep
Speaker 1: it close. Taylor Heineke is either he's starting this game,
Speaker 1: and he actually had a very high PFF scored last week.
Speaker 1: I was like, how did that happen? Then I went
Speaker 1: back and watched he threw two passes in the game.
Speaker 1: One of them was nice. I was like, that was
Speaker 1: a nice pass. So they you know, that's how the
Speaker 1: grades work out. I guess it's sort of perfect.
Speaker 3: Might only right.
Speaker 2: It was very nice, kind of second level over the
Speaker 2: defender type of throw.
Speaker 1: I'd give them a chance with Taylor Heineke to keep
Speaker 1: it close, but not much of one eastern stick.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give him any. But here here's the problem.
Speaker 3: Your favorite player.
Speaker 1: Joe Alt might be missing this game. Is going to
Speaker 1: miss this game. Rayshawn Slater might miss this game. Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa might miss this game. Herbert is clearly not right.
Speaker 1: Those are their five best players, Like, make a list
Speaker 1: of their best players. I'm I'm happy getting the Survivor pick.
Speaker 2: Are you guys? Are you guys with me on this one?
Speaker 3: I'm with you? On this one. OK.
Speaker 4: Again, I'm somes been touchy this. It's gonna be Steve,
Speaker 4: because again Steve, we're gonna have to do this.
Speaker 5: Because you guys let me come in and cheat on this.
Speaker 5: You let me come in week two, so.
Speaker 1: We're all we're all cheating and if we lose, it'll
Speaker 1: it'll end. But I think we're going to go rest
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 3: But it's not just us.
Speaker 4: It's about the folks who have somehow managed to survived
Speaker 4: to this point in this chaotic Survivor League season thus far.
Speaker 4: We want to give them an option, and I feel like,
Speaker 4: considering the injuries mounting on the Chargers, their difficulty dealing
Speaker 4: with this team in general, it feels like a safer
Speaker 4: pick for me.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is that the Chiefs have kind
Speaker 1: of become a running team, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: good way to beat this Chargers team.
Speaker 2: Like they're number one in the NFL and success rate.
Speaker 1: There's like a stat where it's rushing attempts over expected,
Speaker 1: just like in certain situations, would you expect them to
Speaker 1: run or pass the ball? And the Chiefs are always
Speaker 1: you know, they're way over you know, in terms of
Speaker 1: they pass way more than they run than you would.
Speaker 2: Expect this year. Actually, they run even in passing situations.
Speaker 2: They run because.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just playing back and they're they're great at running
Speaker 1: the ball and picking up those four to five yards
Speaker 1: even with Carson Steel number one running back in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of success right.
Speaker 3: And Kareem Hunt could be playing this week. It sounds
Speaker 3: like he's gonna play this.
Speaker 2: That would be cool.
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes, it's like he's not really dazzling right now,
Speaker 1: but he's he's a humble man and he's just happy
Speaker 1: to take those four yards handing.
Speaker 4: The ball off because it's it's working and much to
Speaker 4: his chagrin, and he talks about, you know, disappointing performances like, okay,
Speaker 4: Patrick won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: It's like trying to enjoy.
Speaker 2: Things, but he's kind of been dil of disappointing.
Speaker 5: It's the same stuff we were saying, No, this is more,
Speaker 5: this is more, this is more, but it's it's it's
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna happen. It's it's gonna open up.
Speaker 1: I just got I just say when when it's Juju
Speaker 1: and Kelsey out there, that's one of the slowest teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but way too worthy in Hollywood. Caron come back.
Speaker 3: It's still early.
Speaker 4: Big Big Red said, don't worry, Travis doesn't washed the
Speaker 4: defense are not treating it.
Speaker 5: Patrick Creank's got the guys who need a tugboat to
Speaker 5: get off the line of scrim Wow.
Speaker 2: I definitely have some juju bitterness about the New England Days.
Speaker 4: Got men zone last week's speaking of a success last week,
Speaker 4: let's go to the Denver Broncos who went on the
Speaker 4: road down to Tampa Bay and got a win over
Speaker 4: the previously unbeaten Tampa Bay Buccaneers and now they are
Speaker 4: seven and a half point underdogs at Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 4: the New York Jets. Ian Eagle Charles Davis or dear
Speaker 4: friend and Evan Washburn on the call. Greg was that
Speaker 4: the Patriots or was that the Jets?
Speaker 2: It was both. That was the best Jets game.
Speaker 1: It was a short week Thursday night football, But most
Speaker 1: importantly it was Aaron Rodgers showing that he can be
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and that the Jets defense. I'll bring up
Speaker 1: the defense first. I think can be flexible, Like maybe
Speaker 1: they don't have the peer pass rushers that they need
Speaker 1: to beat the top level competition. But in the last
Speaker 1: two weeks you've actually seen Robert Sala, who kind of
Speaker 1: runs what he runs usually get very creative, show very
Speaker 1: different fronts against the Tennessee where they only had a
Speaker 1: couple of linemen and then they're doing all sorts off
Speaker 1: and then blitz like crazy against the Patriots, and you
Speaker 1: know what, it worked like he can mix it up.
Speaker 1: You have an outstanding secondary. Maybe you don't have TJ.
Speaker 1: Moseley at linebacker this week. We'll have to go see.
Speaker 1: But you have a lot that you like.
Speaker 2: Going up against BONICKX.
Speaker 5: Seven and a half is too small for this one. Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna wowa peel the layer back had a
Speaker 5: conversation with Sala this summer or the spring, I should
Speaker 5: say they're still they're still feeling though. Sean Payton remarks,
Speaker 5: spot Nathaniel Hackett. Remember, oh, even though the Jets got that,
Speaker 5: even though the Jets beat him last year, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: didn't get to play. Remember keep my coach's name out
Speaker 5: of your mouth, Aaron Rodgers. He gets to play in
Speaker 5: this one. So if you, hey, they made Nate Nate
Speaker 5: Hackett might be like, hey, Aaron taking knee right here,
Speaker 5: We're up twelve. Aaron's gonna be like check can can right,
Speaker 5: going to play too, and he sent a Garrett Wilson
Speaker 5: on the on the bus you canna get past Pats
Speaker 5: or Tan. I think if the Jets have an opportunity,
Speaker 5: they are going to exercise tail whipping in this one.
Speaker 1: So Sala's talking about this matchup back in July.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's still a little bitter takes. There's still a
Speaker 3: little bitter taste. Hey, they're gonna try extra hard.
Speaker 4: Glad Glad that that that's carried on throughout a couple
Speaker 4: of seasons. Now I'm just Patrick tretan this this this season,
Speaker 4: Mike Evans, George Pickens, DK Metcalf, he kind of they
Speaker 4: kind of all got certained. And so now what we've
Speaker 4: seen in the past couple of weeks like much too.
Speaker 4: You know, which has been a problem for Garrett Wilson
Speaker 4: fantasy managers is it doesn't have to be all Garrett
Speaker 4: Wilson like it was for substantial points of last season.
Speaker 4: Rogers can spread the ball around and so like the
Speaker 4: biggest issue that the Broncos will will bring in, which
Speaker 4: is certain con becomes a non issue. The way that
Speaker 4: the Rogers and getting the ball out of his hand
Speaker 4: are pretty quickly, And we're gonna have to figure out
Speaker 4: if that was a one week blip or if if
Speaker 4: bo Nicks in this offense are just this unders unstoppable.
Speaker 5: Non non touchdown throwing bow knicks in this offense.
Speaker 3: He came very close, though, he came very close.
Speaker 4: I think Courtland Sutton was down at like the three
Speaker 4: foot line and he.
Speaker 1: Hit a couple of throws down the field in the
Speaker 1: very first drive. After that, they let him work underneath.
Speaker 1: They got it done. They're a very interesting matchup. They've
Speaker 1: been blitzing like crazy more than any team in the league.
Speaker 1: They will probably do that to Aaron Rodgers. We'll see
Speaker 1: how he does. He fared well against pressure last week.
Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the most noteworthy performances
Speaker 1: of the young season. Just Rogers making plays outside the pocket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looked at and looking like the old Rogers. And
Speaker 1: to your point, Patrick, that the secondary guys and by
Speaker 1: that I mean the other weapons, you know, Lazard and Conklin.
Speaker 1: How Braylen Allen might be a better like it down
Speaker 1: and down running back than Brece Hall. Breeshall is more explosive.
Speaker 1: But I just mean, like he can be consistent and
Speaker 1: maybe make brees Hall better by not having to give
Speaker 1: him twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's a hell of accommodation.
Speaker 5: Remember, they're not going to have Morgan MoES just to
Speaker 5: right tackle this game, so that's something to look out for.
Speaker 5: But the fact that they're running the ball and they've
Speaker 5: got two running backs who can break tackles and hit
Speaker 5: you know, some big chunk plays with their speed and shiftiness,
Speaker 5: I think that's something that's you know, going to allow
Speaker 5: them to beat that.
Speaker 3: Spread, right.
Speaker 1: I trust I trust Rogers against these crazy defenses like
Speaker 1: that was it like against New England. He knew what
Speaker 1: they were doing when, whether they were in zone, whether
Speaker 1: they're in man, whether they're moving before the step. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: that dude was like a coach out there, knowing what
Speaker 1: they're going to do. So I think he could probably
Speaker 1: handle the splits. The Broncos, I did want to mention,
Speaker 1: will be without their leading tackler one of their better
Speaker 1: defensive players, Alex Singleton, is out for the season with
Speaker 1: a torn acl came as a big surprise to the
Speaker 1: Broncos and the team. He got hurt in the first
Speaker 1: quarter last week, played the entire game with a torn
Speaker 1: acl complained of knees soreness after the game or I
Speaker 1: think even on Monday, and then it turned.
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, he's out for the years. So that's a
Speaker 2: tough loss.
Speaker 3: These guys are tough, dude, tough loss. Different. Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's brutal, and it's tough to even imagine not
Speaker 4: just playing but finishing the game going through.
Speaker 2: Fifty he didn't miss a snap, not even one.
Speaker 3: That's that's bananas. Bananas.
Speaker 4: Also bananas was the performance from the Jacksonville Jaguars are
Speaker 4: Monday Night Football. Thankfully everybody had a second viewing option
Speaker 4: on that one. They are going on the road after
Speaker 4: getting blown out on the road in Buffalo to the
Speaker 4: division rival Houston Texans, who are a seven point favorite.
Speaker 4: But who's Steve also had a struggle fest performance against
Speaker 4: Brian Flores's defense.
Speaker 3: What else is new? Everybody's doing? Right? How do they
Speaker 3: bounce back here in this one?
Speaker 5: Steve, I have to tell you, first off, the seven points,
Speaker 5: I don't know, it seems a little why just because
Speaker 5: division game, well a division game. The Jags have won
Speaker 5: the last two times they've played in Houston. But the
Speaker 5: thing is, you know, as much as we like to
Speaker 5: say every game players are motivated, nothing means more. This
Speaker 5: is a very fragile time for the Jags. The next
Speaker 5: two weeks, Houston and then the Colts. They have got
Speaker 5: to win these two games because then they go to
Speaker 5: London and where they play the Bears and Patriots. Okay,
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens here. Then they come back against
Speaker 5: the Packers, Eagles, Vikings Alliance. If they don't get some
Speaker 5: momentum going right now, that stretch post London is going
Speaker 5: to be a glee that's resume updating time.
Speaker 3: So I think this is one Houston is they got.
Speaker 3: They got embarrassed last week.
Speaker 5: I mean, they played terrible on offense, their defense got
Speaker 5: dragged just things that we hadn't seen. I mean, they
Speaker 5: got completely carved up. So I expect Houston to play better.
Speaker 5: But this is one where the Jaguars, if they don't
Speaker 5: play their best game, they're in trouble and they're gonna
Speaker 5: be out there leading Tacker Foyer, Luacun the inside linebacker,
Speaker 5: and the way that defense just got out schemed Monday night,
Speaker 5: I mean Josh Allen found every one on one matchup
Speaker 5: in the intermediate passing game to gash them. If they
Speaker 5: don't tighten some things up, it's gonna get real hot
Speaker 5: for a lot of folks down there in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They look like a poorly coach team. Yes, I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about on offense. I mean a bad defensive performance.
Speaker 1: The first couple of weeks, we're solid. It's a new coordinator.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're very talented, and they're down their
Speaker 1: top three cornerbacks potentially for this week. They were last
Speaker 1: week once that game started and they had another injury
Speaker 1: in the back. So you're just not fighting with a
Speaker 1: full deck. You're expecting your offense to at least keep
Speaker 1: you in games. And that's where I think they haven't
Speaker 1: looked like a well coached team because players aren't in
Speaker 1: the right spot. Guys aren't making blocks that they're supposed
Speaker 1: to make, there's formation penalties, there's confusion, and Trevor's not
Speaker 1: making it better either. He's not playing well. He's kind
Speaker 1: of playing down to the competition, and so that's a
Speaker 1: tough spot. I know they beat Tamiko Ryans and the
Speaker 1: Texans last year in Houston, but they split. Both games
Speaker 1: were closed it's a division game. You would expect that
Speaker 1: on some level. It's tough. This team has no identity.
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough spot. So I always actually
Speaker 1: think it's almost a worse spot. When you're going up
Speaker 1: against team that just lost, like a good team, like,
Speaker 1: it always freshens you up a little bit. I feel
Speaker 1: like the Texans will be on there. He's in cues
Speaker 1: for this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The reason for concern would I mean, the reason for
Speaker 4: optimism for Jacksonville would just be the familiarity. Yeah, other
Speaker 4: than that, the play calling is not in syanc. In
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, there were questions to Doug
Speaker 4: Peterson whether he or press so who's actually making the calls,
Speaker 4: like who's putting the game plan together? As the season
Speaker 4: goes on and we've come up to a situation where
Speaker 4: the Jags have the second deepest route depth in the
Speaker 4: league right now. They got Gabe Davis and BTJ running
Speaker 4: these deep routes. Yeah, Trevor's not being protected. He's negative
Speaker 4: eleven and completion percentage above expectation when they don't run
Speaker 4: reaction and so it's just all of these combinations.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny though, because that was the thing
Speaker 1: everyone got on them a year ago. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is a dank and dunk offense, and then okay, let's
Speaker 1: get two burners. Let's like listen to the criticism almost
Speaker 1: and overreact the other way and just like make it
Speaker 1: a bombs away offense. And they've over corrected too much
Speaker 1: and they look like a team that don't know who
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I do want to just say something about the texanstuff
Speaker 1: I've been I'm into this team. I like him. Offensive No,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be great. I think they're one of the
Speaker 1: AFC offensively.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud Like there's something like they're not in sync with
Speaker 1: their offense. He's playing well, but they're not consistently making plays.
Speaker 1: Success rate is as a stat that measures just on
Speaker 1: a play debate play basis, were you successful. He is
Speaker 1: thirty second out of thirty five quarterbacks this year now,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other metrics and eye tests like
Speaker 1: PFF is more about the great day to day great
Speaker 1: or play to play great. He's doing well, QBR he's great,
Speaker 1: Like he's playing well, but the passing game is just
Speaker 1: relying on like great plays. But then there's a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes there's a lot of penalties, there's some miscommunicate.
Speaker 1: Offensive line guys are good. There's a lot of negative plays,
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, a lot of interceptions, a lot
Speaker 1: of negative runs. So they they're kind of like this
Speaker 1: boomer Bus offense. I think they're gonna get it together.
Speaker 1: This is about early in the season. But it's just
Speaker 1: interesting because they had a lot of continuity. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have expected them to be so uneven to start.
Speaker 5: Once they get mixing back and pierced back. You know,
Speaker 5: both their starting running backs have been out. That changes things. Okay,
Speaker 5: it changes your protections and things like that. How you
Speaker 5: do it? How are teams adjusting? Just Stefon Diggs right now,
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to start shifting their attention to Nico Collins.
Speaker 5: That's going to open up some other things as well.
Speaker 5: But you're right, some of the negative players are having.
Speaker 5: Laramie Tuntal has had I think a decent amount of
Speaker 5: penalties here at left tackle. They will tighten that up.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they tightened in a big
Speaker 5: time this week. No with at stake, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean preseason's over, right, we can get through all that
Speaker 5: stuff now where we say the first three or four
Speaker 5: games in the preseason, for these guys, it's over.
Speaker 3: It's real now.
Speaker 4: And it's also it's difficult to get healthier playing football.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the people forget because Tank Dell had that broken
Speaker 4: leg right last season, working his way back, actually got
Speaker 4: shot in an incident. Yeah, in the off season, but
Speaker 4: those these things take time. Unfortunately, the season is kind
Speaker 4: of coalescing with that. But if he's able to get
Speaker 4: kind of closer back to where he was last year
Speaker 4: than I think the worries are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is the week they get healthy.
Speaker 1: Those matchup problems for yeah, the Jaguars on the outside.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on NFL Daily to crank through this
Speaker 1: week for Slate. It's it's kind of like a show
Speaker 1: me week for a couple of teams.
Speaker 2: I'm just confused about. Get to that in a bit.
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily. Excited to talk about the second
Speaker 1: Monday night game. We got Gino in primetime.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's primetime Gino and Geno Smith and the Seattle
Speaker 4: Seahawks visiting the Detroit Lions, who are a four point
Speaker 4: favorite at home. The over under is forty six and
Speaker 4: a half. And if you go all the way back
Speaker 4: to twenty two and me two, every single time these
Speaker 4: two teams have played, that would not even be close
Speaker 4: to enough. It was fifty one to twenty nine, and
Speaker 4: twenty it was forty five to forty eight in the
Speaker 4: second time they played, and then last year it was
Speaker 4: thirty seven to thirty one in overtime. Craig, whenever you
Speaker 4: get Gino and Jared Golf linked up, it's gonna be points.
Speaker 1: It's been the games that I've enjoyed Among the games,
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed Gena the most watching him carve up this
Speaker 1: Lions defense. But it's a better Lions defense this year.
Speaker 1: They're great stopping the run, and so I don't think
Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna even try that hard to run because
Speaker 1: they have really struggled to open up holes. And against
Speaker 1: Miami last week, they didn't look right for most of
Speaker 1: the game trying to run the ball, And so I
Speaker 1: think they look at this man coverage that Detroit likes
Speaker 1: to play and they say, bet, you know, like all right,
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis, like go try, Terry and Arnold go try
Speaker 1: like we got Jackson Smith and jig. But we got
Speaker 1: dk Metcalff running choice routes like fifty yards down the field.
Speaker 1: Whoever heard such a thing, And you got Tyler Lockett,
Speaker 1: And that's just the way they're going to have to win.
Speaker 1: I know the line isn't playing that well, but I
Speaker 1: think Geno and his receivers can make up for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look the four points here.
Speaker 5: I think that's that's probably about right, because I think
Speaker 5: that Detroit has the ability to mix it up right here,
Speaker 5: right because you because again one thing, the one thing
Speaker 5: that that that Seattle has to say, you got so
Speaker 5: much speed in the secondary, right, so they can run,
Speaker 5: you know, with some of Detroit's wide receivers. So I
Speaker 5: think you're gonna see a lot of run game. Dave Montgomery,
Speaker 5: Jamiir Gibbs are gonna mix it up, and then they're
Speaker 5: gonna take some shot plays they've got. You can't play
Speaker 5: all the undernease stuff with Jered Goff all the time.
Speaker 5: So I like Detroit in this one at home. This
Speaker 5: is gonna be another shootout. I'm patrick one hundred percent
Speaker 5: with you that that forty six point five, Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: that's not gonna be up.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be another offensive dandy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, forty six point five is in severe danger. I
Speaker 4: do think in terms of the historical matchup, we're not
Speaker 4: gonna get the numbers that we have seen in the
Speaker 4: past because I believe both of these defenses, despite the
Speaker 4: injuries that Seattle has dealt with, are better, uh, And
Speaker 4: things are gonna get a little bit better for both defenses.
Speaker 3: But it's still gonna It's still gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of points.
Speaker 4: We're still gonna be see points uh in this game,
Speaker 4: especially considering the style and the matchup where I love
Speaker 4: Tareik Woolland, but particularly with i'man Ross, Saint Brown and Jamo.
Speaker 4: It seems like if you're gonna put high weight speed
Speaker 4: guys out there to deal with Treik Woolland, you would
Speaker 4: have those guys to be able.
Speaker 2: To see Jamo Tarik Willand would be like quite a.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of talented, it's a lot of speed. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's for you're gonna I think. And to that point,
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see something where the lines. You're
Speaker 5: gonna try to get Weatherspoon on Saint Brown, even though
Speaker 5: they don't do a ton of man, but they're gonna
Speaker 5: try and do things because Saint Brown is more the
Speaker 5: intermediate guy to to keep things underneath.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: These offensive coordinators are gonna be scheming some stuff up.
Speaker 5: I think in the short to intermediate pass game with
Speaker 5: the occasional shot played, I don't think there's gonna be
Speaker 5: a ton of them.
Speaker 4: And so something that has kind of bolstered the way
Speaker 4: we feel about the Lions defense is they're not necessarily
Speaker 4: getting that many pressures, but they are converting those pressures
Speaker 4: into sex and so there's something where you look at
Speaker 4: the you look at the sack numbers, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: Ayden Hutchson had those five, Like the Lions are putting
Speaker 4: a lot of guys on the dirt, But how often
Speaker 4: are they getting consistent pressure, which is something because you know,
Speaker 4: take a side, Yeah, but if you're not getting consistent pressure,
Speaker 4: you're gonna get those bombs like we saw last week.
Speaker 1: This is a bad Seattle offensive line. Like Charles Cross
Speaker 1: is playing great at left tackle. The people that are
Speaker 1: smarter than me are saying this guy could be an
Speaker 1: All Pro now that that's how well he's playing. But
Speaker 1: on the interior right like the rest of the group's
Speaker 1: not good. But this line, I actually don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you that I don't know if it's going
Speaker 1: to be a shootout, because, first of all, this is
Speaker 1: what I was talking about before went to break, like,
Speaker 1: this is a test for Seattle's defense. On paper, this
Speaker 1: has been the best defense in the league, just about
Speaker 1: them and the Vikings. But they've played you know, bo Nicks, right,
Speaker 1: they played Jacoby Brissett, and they played Skylar Tom and
Speaker 1: Tim Boyle, and that's not their fault. They did what
Speaker 1: great defenses should do. They dominated for the most part.
Speaker 1: But this is a much bigger test. The Detroit running
Speaker 1: game will test you the passes over the middle. In
Speaker 1: terms of the Seattle linebackers, they can test you there.
Speaker 1: But it's also to me a test a little bit
Speaker 1: of for this Lions offense. I've been banging this this
Speaker 1: drum the last few weeks, just like they're running the
Speaker 1: ball great and that they have a great offensive line,
Speaker 1: and so that what a foundation to start with. But
Speaker 1: they're not quite where they've been the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: They are thirteenth overall in DVOA efficiency as an offense,
Speaker 1: twentieth in passing. You saw it in the game last
Speaker 1: week with the Cardinals, they just got they didn't score
Speaker 1: in the second half. That was a weird game where
Speaker 1: every time they got the ball, you think, okay, they'll
Speaker 1: put the game away here. It just never happened, like
Speaker 1: they couldn't they couldn't score now, and I know they
Speaker 1: had a good first half, so it's not like they're terrible,
Speaker 1: but that would never happen last year. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of a show me something for both these you and
Speaker 1: it's Seattle defense, Lions offense very intriguing.
Speaker 5: And this is where okay, now we have two years
Speaker 5: of tape on Ben Johnson, right, that's where I think, Okay,
Speaker 5: if they come out in three tight this is.
Speaker 3: What they like to do.
Speaker 5: Before they could trick you with some of those formations
Speaker 5: where they would spread it out on third nine and
Speaker 5: then run it. Right now, teams are like, okay, we've
Speaker 5: got personnel now to match up a little bit more
Speaker 5: of what they like to do offensively. So it could
Speaker 5: be that it could be just they just haven't hit
Speaker 5: their groove. This is just gonna be I'm you guys
Speaker 5: are both saying those points. I think this is gonna
Speaker 5: be another burner g.
Speaker 2: You know, in prime time.
Speaker 1: Remember that Cowboys gave me out last year. He has
Speaker 1: been on fire. Just one small note if you're a
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks fan, Rodrigo, he's a starter now.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: Derek Barnes is hurt, he's out for a little while.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Rodriguez is playing every down.
Speaker 3: There it does there he is Rodrigo.
Speaker 4: Last time Marke McDonald saw Jared Goff, it was thirty
Speaker 4: eight to six, by the way, and they Ravens blow
Speaker 4: out of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3: Oh good cost here.
Speaker 1: I think that that game, than any game, might have
Speaker 1: got him that job.
Speaker 2: It might have got him a job.
Speaker 3: Let's go to our next game.
Speaker 4: It is the defeated as of thus far in the season,
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals, who are a three and a half point
Speaker 4: favorite Greg Rosenthal at Andy Dalton's Carolina Panthers the over
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty seven. And I have the Panthers
Speaker 4: not favorite it in the revenge game.
Speaker 1: Well no, and I've actually I noticed that that number
Speaker 1: is going down during the week, so people are in
Speaker 1: on the Panthers. I don't know about that. Because this
Speaker 1: Bengals offense looks good. Can they really be this bad defensively?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Again, it is Dalton, and there is something about him
Speaker 1: playing the Bengals in him basically digging dirt on their
Speaker 1: entire season that is delicious. I'm excited for this game
Speaker 1: just because if Dalton did that, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dalton must have played the Bengals before and from our
Speaker 1: research department. Yeah, this is actually the fourth team that
Speaker 1: he's played against the Bengals with.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: I think every team, I think every.
Speaker 2: Tea's two and one, by the way, and I think last.
Speaker 5: Week and every team he previously played for lost except
Speaker 5: for the Panthers.
Speaker 3: No, this is this is the week the Bengals get right. Guys.
Speaker 5: Remember Adam Feeling is now down. One of the Red
Speaker 5: Rifles targets favorite target is not playing in this game. Uh,
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow on this offense, look fine, they look find
Speaker 5: me the run game, everything looked fine.
Speaker 3: It's the defense.
Speaker 5: I was stunned at how easily that lou Anarumo's defense,
Speaker 5: which is so good at making halftime with justice, was manipulated.
Speaker 5: Cam Taylor britt right there. They're gonna keep his butt
Speaker 5: quiet this week. He got roasted twice after popping off,
Speaker 5: so you know, Trent Scott though, keep an eye on him.
Speaker 5: Well whoever's Washington this week? Uh, but I their their
Speaker 5: defense seems undisciplined. I'm surprised. We know they still have
Speaker 5: some issues. They have to work out the secondary, but
Speaker 5: up front, yeah.
Speaker 2: They don't have much. It's Trey Hendrickson and that's it.
Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard is Sam Hubbard's.
Speaker 1: Not playing well and they delivered their short on defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: It's a bad Their run defense looks lost, So this
Speaker 1: could be a Chub of Hubbard game.
Speaker 4: It's one of those scary moments where you laud the
Speaker 4: veteran defense and how well they've played, and now you're
Speaker 4: watching through the first three weeks in the season. Did
Speaker 4: everybody get old all at the same time. That's the
Speaker 4: dangerous territory that we're in, considering the way that they
Speaker 4: looked on Monday night. But I'm there's nothing wrong. I
Speaker 4: know there's been some ludicrous conversation about Joe Burrow in
Speaker 4: the offense. Come on, there's nothing more that they could
Speaker 4: have done other than Evan McPherson making a field goal.
Speaker 1: There's really a little better in the red zone. Maybe
Speaker 1: call some more runs in the reds or have more
Speaker 1: effective runs in the red zone. The ones they caused
Speaker 1: weren't working, but they had to be perfect, yeah, point.
Speaker 4: They had to be absolutely perfect. And I think t
Speaker 4: Higgins is going to get better. It was clearly some rust.
Speaker 4: He comes up short on I think two plays right
Speaker 4: within the the end zone. And so yeah, Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: is back. Everybody's gonna get healthy taking deep shots against
Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders. And I don't think that this one
Speaker 4: week boost for the Carolina Panthers, Like we're to the
Speaker 4: point now where we're talking about Adam Thelen's injury, Like
Speaker 4: that's how much better things are, because we would have
Speaker 4: previously just said, hey, it's the Carolina Panthers, Like well
Speaker 4: he's saying it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you think they're gonna win the Panthers, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. Theeling, by the way, is uninjured reserve
Speaker 1: he's gonna have because of a hamstring injury. And then
Speaker 1: Trent Brown, we haven't mentioned it on NFL Daily, is
Speaker 1: out for the season, very unfortunate, a torn patel attendant.
Speaker 1: So they'll have their first round pick, Amarius Mims takeover
Speaker 1: at right tackle, which is a good position to be
Speaker 1: in to have a first round pick there, but he struggled, yes,
Speaker 1: in the brief time he was out there.
Speaker 2: So that's that's something to watch.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons that you sometimes the
Speaker 1: losing teams are more intriguing for some of these games
Speaker 1: because if we get to the Witching Hour and Scott
Speaker 1: Hansen's voice is rising on Sunday and he's talking about
Speaker 1: the Red Rifles got the ball with the chance to
Speaker 1: go win the game, to put the Panthers in a
Speaker 1: tie for first in the NFC South and basically end
Speaker 1: the Bengals season. Those are some September stakes there, Patrick
Speaker 1: like that, that's some real stuff and.
Speaker 3: We could get there.
Speaker 4: And the only thing really keeping that from happening, what
Speaker 4: would be this Carolina Panthers see for them where it's
Speaker 4: it's it's been a struggle and we we still got
Speaker 4: to figure out how much of that because it takes
Speaker 4: it takes an entire unit to be as bad as
Speaker 4: the Las Vegas Raiders were. I guess the Panthers last week.
Speaker 4: So was that a zero? Was that the defense was
Speaker 4: that the Raiders? This is something for us to figure out,
Speaker 4: but it will be the revenge opportunity. I will be very,
Speaker 4: very exciting, not as exciting as things will be for
Speaker 4: the scoreboard operator at State Farms State where the over
Speaker 4: under is fifty and a half points.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 4: Washington Commander's coming off of the best rookie performance that
Speaker 4: I've seen. My god, I think on Monday Night football
Speaker 4: for Jade Daniels against the Arizona Cardinals, who are putting
Speaker 4: all kinds of points on the board. Steve, the Commander's
Speaker 4: defense can't stop anybody points points, points, points points.
Speaker 5: It's it's funny, you know. I talked to someone with
Speaker 5: the commanders this week and it was like, yeah, so
Speaker 5: our DBS man, you know, And and it's true. I mean,
Speaker 5: you had you had the rookie Mike Saint Russell, who's
Speaker 5: been a slot corners whole off outside because they're just
Speaker 5: trying to figure he got beat on a deep play,
Speaker 5: really good player, but he's small, and you know, for him,
Speaker 5: I just don't know. Marvin Harrison, man, he might really
Speaker 5: go extra.
Speaker 2: Ham okay, and he's been a little inefficient.
Speaker 1: Now you're talking a guy from Washington and he's complaining
Speaker 1: about the DBS. Aren't they sky high that they found
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, it's one of these
Speaker 5: things like, Okay, we won the ball game, but when
Speaker 5: we look at the big picture, he's not gonna deal
Speaker 5: like that every week. Like at some point the defense
Speaker 5: is going to have to bail out. And you know,
Speaker 5: their defense are just just trying to find their way.
Speaker 5: They're trying to find some groupings.
Speaker 3: And things like this.
Speaker 5: But let's you know what we talk about Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 5: I mean, Patrick, do you see him not granted he
Speaker 5: might not be able to throw for a game like this,
Speaker 5: but I don't see him slowing down.
Speaker 3: This is that's a type of performance.
Speaker 5: I think he's going to continue in this offense, will
Speaker 5: continue to build on especially since Cliff Kingsbury is going
Speaker 5: back to Arizona. Oh yeah, because Cliff was in his bag.
Speaker 5: I have not seen him call a game as aggressively.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what he called the throw a generational throw
Speaker 1: into a tight window like that a great receiver, it's
Speaker 1: going to catch play.
Speaker 2: Let's not get too much credit.
Speaker 4: Well also in taking the way credit for Cliff on
Speaker 4: that play, it was Terry McLaurin that called that play.
Speaker 4: After the game, Terry said he went over to Cliff
Speaker 4: and asked for the.
Speaker 3: Double move over at least for a couple I'm not I.
Speaker 4: Mean all due respect because during the game, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: all do apologies to Cliff Kingsbury. I wasn't familiar with
Speaker 4: your game. I don't know how many that was Cliff
Speaker 4: and how much of that was his players with suggestions.
Speaker 4: But we just haven't seen Terry McLaurin over on that
Speaker 4: right side a whole bunch. Now, what a time to
Speaker 4: come up with a debut for it. And really, Jane
Speaker 4: only missed two passes in the game. The other one
Speaker 4: was a wide open shot to Terry that he would
Speaker 4: have made in his sleep. I don't know what happened
Speaker 4: is one of those things. Because he completed the ninety
Speaker 4: one percent of his passes, everybody's oh, he can't throw.
Speaker 4: He didn't miss pass the rest of the game after that,
Speaker 4: But there's who knows what can happen if the if
Speaker 4: the airs on the Cardinals cannot get pressure in and around
Speaker 4: Jane and Daniels like the Cincinnati Bengals did, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: then they're gonna score it for time again.
Speaker 2: Right, it's been two weeks. I mean the stats are crazy.
Speaker 1: The Commanders are first in the league in plays and
Speaker 1: yards per drive on offense, and they're dead last in
Speaker 1: the league and plays in yards for I have on defense,
Speaker 1: So like they are a walking forty burger. And I
Speaker 1: did want to throw something by you when it comes
Speaker 1: to Jane Daniels, because I do think this can continue.
Speaker 1: Not at that level, but I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be really efficient and smart. How they use him in
Speaker 1: the running game and when he scrambles it's so effective,
Speaker 1: and that he'll have enough big shots, big plays to
Speaker 1: compliment all the dinking and dunking that they like to do.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Jayden Daniels if you're watching
Speaker 1: on YouTube the All twenty two version, the end zone
Speaker 1: angle and the shot that he took on that throw
Speaker 1: to Terry McLaurin to win the game. I propose to
Speaker 1: you guys, last week, in terms of throw of the year,
Speaker 1: a candidate to possibly pass Anthony Richardson that was Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2: We stuck with Richardson.
Speaker 1: Now I'm personally willing to consider the game situation and
Speaker 1: the moment and the throw and the play that that
Speaker 1: essential game winner from Jaden Daniels before taking the hit
Speaker 1: knowing that the blitz is coming. Is now the throw
Speaker 1: of the year. What are you guys think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw it to the crew. So it's either this or
Speaker 1: it's Anthony Richardson the bomb from week one that would
Speaker 1: have the belt.
Speaker 5: Currently, Yeah, Richard's Richard's got the spectacular play. But I
Speaker 5: mean this was, like you said, the moment, the circumstances,
Speaker 5: this this, this broke the back and look at the
Speaker 5: corner right, he sees Hilt, he knows Hilton's count blam,
Speaker 5: let's it rip.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we know McLaurin may have called the play,
Speaker 3: but you.
Speaker 5: Got the sideline as a defender and the corner trail
Speaker 5: on him and he just dropped it right in the bucket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the security guy in the blue shirt standing
Speaker 4: like six feet away from Terry McLaurin. If you put
Speaker 4: me right there and gave him the football, I could
Speaker 4: not have thrown the ball where Jayden Daniels did getting smashed.
Speaker 4: I felt like the only time he was hit as
Speaker 4: he threw the entire game. I will say that Jaden
Speaker 4: Daniels had the better play, uh, the the decision, the circumstances,
Speaker 4: but in terms of throwing the football. It's it's gonna
Speaker 4: be tough for me to say if we're purely talking
Speaker 4: about interpretation.
Speaker 1: So either way, So yes, you're going Richardson. I think
Speaker 1: you're the deciding vote here, Steve, I don't even know.
Speaker 5: Okay, my thing is the spectacular goes to Richardson. I
Speaker 5: mean talk about the throw of the year.
Speaker 1: He retains about he retains THEO. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense not something we talk about a lot. They've
Speaker 1: been okay this year. Yeah, I mentioned the Lions.
Speaker 3: Stop it.
Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna be a little overmatch.
Speaker 1: I know Kyler had a bad game last week. I
Speaker 1: expect their offense to bounce back. If their defense can
Speaker 1: be okay, they can be in the mix for a while.
Speaker 1: I think they could bounce back here.
Speaker 3: I like them.
Speaker 1: I like them to win this game. If I if
Speaker 1: I had to choose one, O the Cliff cliff Is
Speaker 1: Cardinals fans. Though Cliff is good in September, Cliff does
Speaker 1: create a running game like that's the one thing that
Speaker 1: you can say he has a running game that travels.
Speaker 2: This is a really fun game.
Speaker 6: Well, he gets his quarterbacks hit like that. Ain't the
Speaker 6: last time, Jane's gonna take a shot and I don't
Speaker 6: want to hear revenge game. He's his contract is only
Speaker 6: in year two. The contract that he got from the
Speaker 6: Cardinals is only entering year two, like it didn't start
Speaker 6: until after they fired him, or maybe it's year three now,
Speaker 6: but the contract extension they gave him did not start
Speaker 6: until after they fired a year after they fired him,
Speaker 6: So he's still making money from that.
Speaker 4: He's coaching. He's coaching for free. No offset the revenge game.
Speaker 4: There is Kyler Murray against the true of Kingsbury. Good
Speaker 4: go all right, So here's what.
Speaker 3: Tom it is. Guys.
Speaker 4: It's time for the Sneaky good Game of the Week,
Speaker 4: presented by Draft kings Sportsbook. A two and a half
Speaker 4: point home favorite Chicago Bears going up against the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles Rams.
Speaker 3: The over under Steve is forty one.
Speaker 4: That the Rams or Matthew Stafford too too at well
Speaker 4: and some duct tape and band aids salvage a win
Speaker 4: in so far last week, but they're not favorites against
Speaker 4: since this good Bears defense.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. It's because the Bears defense.
Speaker 5: You know, you see some of the injuries that the
Speaker 5: Rams have on the offensive line. The fact that the
Speaker 5: Bears do have a good secondary and the Rams are
Speaker 5: just spreading it to whomever. I mean, Afford was unbelievable
Speaker 5: in the second half of that game. And I guess
Speaker 5: maybe they're looking at the Rams defense saying that they
Speaker 5: can't get pressure on Caleb. All I saw every play
Speaker 5: when Rock Perdy, who had a good game, had the ball,
Speaker 5: was Jared Verse walking the left tackle back into the Latin.
Speaker 3: Now, this is where the Rams won the game.
Speaker 5: Special team SA if you're Smith fam you you know
Speaker 5: they had the fake punt. They had very good special
Speaker 5: teams play and then you know Stafford again they got
Speaker 5: the benefit of this call here sets up the field goal.
Speaker 5: But I guess when you look at the points as
Speaker 5: Chicago's the favorite, you're just saying they still aren't going
Speaker 5: to have problems getting into the end zone against this defense.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, man, I think when I see
Speaker 5: Jared Vers and Braden Fisk, they're going to be able
Speaker 5: to put pressure on Caleb.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I think that
Speaker 1: is a silver lining for this Rams season so far,
Speaker 1: that I do think they hit on those first Yes,
Speaker 1: that they're both going to be really good players and
Speaker 1: how good we'll find out they're already going to be
Speaker 1: plus players and they could be special. I think Caleb
Speaker 1: just has to cut out the negative plays. A lot
Speaker 1: of miscommunications again where him and the receivers not on
Speaker 1: the same page, turnovers, turnover where he plays, sacks, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But the big plays were back last week.
Speaker 1: He did make some really impressive throws in this Rams
Speaker 1: defense has struggled now they needed a matchup like this again.
Speaker 1: I keep talking about week four. Sometimes what you think
Speaker 1: about a team has a lot to do with the schedule.
Speaker 1: The Rams defense has played the Lions, Cardinals forty nine
Speaker 1: ers offenses back to back to back, and they've been
Speaker 1: totally overmatched, especially in the secondary. So Keenan Allen is
Speaker 1: expected to return in this game. He was limited at
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, but it's trending positive. That's a big
Speaker 1: mismatch against the Rams secondary. But the Rams might be saying, hey,
Speaker 1: here's an offense we can actually maybe handle for ones.
Speaker 1: Keep it close, and I tend to trust when push
Speaker 1: comes to shove. I think quarterbacks, and I think coaching staffs,
Speaker 1: I think organizations, and the Rams have it all over
Speaker 1: the Bears in those categories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially considering the just how difficult things have been
Speaker 4: on offense, especially protecting Caleb Williams early on this season
Speaker 4: the benefit of the for the Chicago Bears, there's been
Speaker 4: four different players that have got at least twenty different
Speaker 4: pass blocking snaps for the Rams at the left tacklefish
Speaker 4: this season, it's kind of been a turnstile over there.
Speaker 1: Although now you know Alec Jackson who came off suspension,
Speaker 1: but he struggled last week.
Speaker 2: He might not be a world beater either. He struggled.
Speaker 1: So even the guys they have out there that they
Speaker 1: know haven Stein is at right tackle like they had
Speaker 1: benched him the other guys, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 5: Well and you see that that the nine had flipped
Speaker 5: Bosh over to the right side too, So Alerc Jackson
Speaker 5: is going up against Bosha. Let me ask you this though,
Speaker 5: when it comes to the Bears, right, I think a
Speaker 5: lot of us we're thinking, if they've got the number
Speaker 5: one pick and they're taking Caleb Williams, why are they
Speaker 5: hanging on to Maddyberfluss and was supposed to be the
Speaker 5: last year of his deal, Because if this doesn't work out,
Speaker 5: now Caleb's in that situation.
Speaker 3: Like Trevor was right, we'll all daftin fields like.
Speaker 5: Justin fields where you're flipping coaches, And do you think
Speaker 5: that conversation if they lose or if this offense continues
Speaker 5: to look scattered when you have Caleb throwing at fifty
Speaker 5: two times and after the game he's like, I threw
Speaker 5: it fifty two times, do you think this is something
Speaker 5: that once again is going to put wash Rent Repete
Speaker 5: on the Bears organization.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's it's unfortunate, and that was the risk.
Speaker 1: I think once once the ball started rolling downhill last
Speaker 1: year and they kept winning at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: it just was taken as a FATA complay that they're
Speaker 1: going to keep them because they've finished the season hot.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it doesn't continue that way. It's a long
Speaker 1: way to go, but they need to defense has been fine,
Speaker 1: it has his side of the ball hasn't been the problem.
Speaker 1: But they got to fix the offense. They got to
Speaker 1: get DeAndre Swift going. They got to get a running
Speaker 1: game to help Caleb Williams out. DeAndre Swift is averaging
Speaker 1: under two yards per carry him and that that's hard
Speaker 1: to believe.
Speaker 5: Think about this game. Bearish play caller was whose right
Speaker 5: hand man two years ago.
Speaker 7: Good callan Shane Waldron in some heat because there was
Speaker 7: a question to Matt eueber Flews because they have Taekwon
Speaker 7: Lewis down there in a blocking situation with the defensive end,
Speaker 7: got mauled and then they ran that speed option the
Speaker 7: next play, which is one of the worst play that
Speaker 7: we've seen all week.
Speaker 4: The coach is answering questions about the play caller. They're
Speaker 4: not able to score points. I got the number one
Speaker 4: overall pick. We're in dangers over Shane.
Speaker 1: Shane is missing life with Gino Smith. He didn't know
Speaker 1: how good he had it. And it's not a revenge
Speaker 1: game for him though Sean McVay got helped to get
Speaker 1: him a job just by association.
Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's out of jail no longer asked to commentate
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboy with slowouts, although they made it interesting.
Speaker 1: I was actually happy for Tom that he had a
Speaker 1: fun and fourth quarter at the end.
Speaker 2: But no, he's heading to Tampa.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The broadcast wilded into existence when they showed a fan
Speaker 4: that was obviously a plant wearing a twenty eight to
Speaker 4: three T shirt at the Cowboys Ravens game.
Speaker 2: Wait, really, I missed that.
Speaker 4: It was coming back from breaking there's this guy in
Speaker 4: a twenty eight three T shirt. It's like, all right,
Speaker 4: who'd y'all put that shirt on? I'm calling I'm throwing
Speaker 4: a flag on that. But yeah, Tom Brady will be
Speaker 4: in the stands and a lot of us be watching
Speaker 4: as the Philadelphia Eagles are two and a half point
Speaker 4: favorites at the Tampa Bay Bunkers, who just lost to
Speaker 4: the Broncos. These two teams have playoff history. Jalen hurts
Speaker 4: two to one against the Buccaneers in his career, I
Speaker 4: mean one and two against the Buccaneers in his career
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But this is the regular season. Greg, They've got a
Speaker 3: whole lot of injuries.
Speaker 4: Don't know if it's aj Brown advante Smith, it may
Speaker 4: just be Saquon and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: Not enough.
Speaker 1: Maybe because this Bucks defense isn't what they've been in
Speaker 1: previous years. You think Todd Bowles defense, you think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: there's some of the best run defenses of all time. Literally,
Speaker 1: yeah and great every year. This year they really struggle
Speaker 1: on the ground. Part of that is Vidavea has been
Speaker 1: banged up, was back at practice on Wednesday. They also
Speaker 1: get Luke Getiki, their right tackle, back at practice on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: which are really positive because if you watched that Bucks
Speaker 1: game last week, they couldn't stop the run consistently enough
Speaker 1: and they really couldn't protect Baker Mayfield, so that would
Speaker 1: be big for them. Yeah, this is another like what's
Speaker 1: real about this team? Eagles get pushed around for two weeks,
Speaker 1: then suddenly they show up in New Orleans and they're
Speaker 1: wrecking shop against this great running game like set in
Speaker 1: the edge, playing really fierce, and then what's real about Baker?
Speaker 1: Because you know not to yeah, celebrate here, Patrick, but
Speaker 1: you're talking MVP. Last week for Baker, I'm like, let's
Speaker 1: calm down, and he played one of his worst games
Speaker 1: as a buccaneer. I thought he kind of was the
Speaker 1: problem last week for the Bucks. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of old Baker stuff of leaving the pocket early, just
Speaker 1: missing some throws, some crazy decisions, and then it kind
Speaker 1: of collapsed on him in the second half. But the
Speaker 1: first half it was actually I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it was on Baker. I was surprised to see that
Speaker 1: because he had been really consistent throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the end of last season and certainly to start this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see the.
Speaker 5: Eagles, you know, their two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 5: I like the number. I like the Bucks to beat
Speaker 5: the number. I just think that, you know, Tampa, if
Speaker 5: they get Vita Via back right, it's going to help
Speaker 5: out in the run defense. But you know, you look
Speaker 5: at the Bucks secondary. I don't know if Winfield's going
Speaker 5: to be back yet.
Speaker 1: He is only running like on the side at practice,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like he's at least a week away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just you know, the the Eagles offensive line
Speaker 5: is good, They're gonna have to run it. I mean,
Speaker 5: they had they they looked very good defensively against the Saints. Right,
Speaker 5: they're able to stop that outside zone and Saints didn't
Speaker 5: have a left hand so to speak of where they
Speaker 5: could go, but they didn't score. I mean, they had
Speaker 5: fifteen points right against a pretty good defense. So I
Speaker 5: just think I think the Bucks at home in this one,
Speaker 5: I Philadelphia just doesn't seem like the type of team
Speaker 5: to me that's gonna also and rip off three or
Speaker 5: fourth to three games.
Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that the Bucks hurts matchups in the past. Patrick,
Speaker 1: which I think is for Eagles fans, is like a
Speaker 1: big part of this game that he's had the two
Speaker 1: most embarrassing moments of his career against Todd Bowles's defense.
Speaker 1: So do you think this is a different Hurts. Maybe
Speaker 1: they've been good against the Blitz.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they've been much better against the Blitz. And
Speaker 4: we saw last year they had no answers. They had
Speaker 4: absolutely no answers against the defense against the Blitz. And
Speaker 4: now Kellen Moore comes in. There are some questions about
Speaker 4: like Nick Sirianni saying that he's gonna step in and
Speaker 4: call some plays in some situations that eyes kind of
Speaker 4: popped out reading that this week.
Speaker 1: Well, well you talked about the fourth he was talking
Speaker 1: about that fourth down decision. I wonder if he was
Speaker 1: just like, was he just taking the bullet for Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and trying to be like a good Hey, there's
Speaker 1: something maybe I don't know that'd be a cool guy move.
Speaker 4: Like shout out to Nick Sirianni. If that's you know,
Speaker 4: we'd have to wait for a book after his career
Speaker 4: or something, you know, if things go the other way.
Speaker 4: But it's gonna a lot, it's gonna depend on the statuses.
Speaker 3: Like A. J.
Speaker 4: Brown and Devonte Smith or so much of this passing game,
Speaker 4: they're both there.
Speaker 3: I'm picking the Eagles regardless.
Speaker 1: So they were both out of practice. That generally a
Speaker 1: guy coming off a concussion who misses practice entirely on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: that that's not a good sign for them, and you
Speaker 1: just you don't know for sure, but both him and
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson. And Johnson, you know, I'm a little worried
Speaker 1: about longer term because of some history that he's had
Speaker 1: with concussions and saying how it's really affected him in
Speaker 1: his mental health. So those are two situations. They were
Speaker 1: both out of practice.
Speaker 3: A J.
Speaker 2: Brown was also out of practice. I think this was kind.
Speaker 1: Of the week where maybe he could come back and
Speaker 1: maybe not if it was it was next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean again, that's a lot of talent. That's
Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot of talent, you know.
Speaker 5: And again with concussion protocols, just you see different guys
Speaker 5: handle different ways. Some guys maybe out on Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 5: they're back Friday, they pass all the protocols and they
Speaker 5: have a full practice.
Speaker 3: Good gotcha. So that's just something you know, you really
Speaker 3: have to keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Davante played every single snap, which is not out
Speaker 4: of the question before he got hurt in Week three.
Speaker 4: But in the game against the Science, he's always out
Speaker 4: on the field. He is always a big part of
Speaker 4: that passing game.
Speaker 2: But I do want to make one note here about
Speaker 2: the Bucks.
Speaker 1: I just want to give some pop to Zion McCollum
Speaker 1: and Tyke Smith. I feel they're not getting mentioned on
Speaker 1: a lot of Zion McCollum playing his ass off in
Speaker 1: the secondary, Todd Bowles can coach him up, and Tikey Smith,
Speaker 1: who's like I think he's a rookie nickel. He's playing
Speaker 1: pretty well too. So they got some young players to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: Well, Collum has more passes defended than he does completions.
Speaker 3: Whoa right now he's at that's a pop? That's a pop?
Speaker 4: Or Zion McCollums Z Why oh, by the way, good
Speaker 4: shot by Greg Rosen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big time.
Speaker 4: What about a big matchup in the NFC North at
Speaker 4: lambeau Field where the Packers, the loveless question mark Green
Speaker 4: Bay Packers we'll find out are two and a half
Speaker 4: point favorites against Sam Darnold. Get those bees buzzing in
Speaker 4: my ear and the Minnesota Vikings on over under of
Speaker 4: forty three point five.
Speaker 1: There they go, Greg the high They're they're attacking me,
Speaker 1: They're coming at me. This is another test room. But
Speaker 1: he's had tests and they passed them all. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Packers defense is playing better lately. Their defensive line
Speaker 1: now is against the Colts and and the Titans, but
Speaker 1: they've been getting after kind of a more than the
Speaker 1: sum of their parts type of group where Rashaun Gary
Speaker 1: is great, Preston Smith is solid, but just they're getting
Speaker 1: production from a lot of different guys and so that'll
Speaker 1: be a challenge for them.
Speaker 2: We'll see JJ though he's just crazy man.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna go against JayR Alexander this week, who's
Speaker 1: kind of back to being the old Gyr examder having
Speaker 1: a good year. He beats, he gets, he doesn't just
Speaker 1: beat double teams like he gets open to the point
Speaker 1: where like Sam Donald's like, oh he's open even though
Speaker 1: there's a double team.
Speaker 2: I'll throw it to him.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. It's crazy, he's he is so elite.
Speaker 5: He is, he is so really, I think it's interesting.
Speaker 5: Is this a third consecutive game where Brian Flora is
Speaker 5: a Vikings defensive coordinator, is coaching against either a Shanahan
Speaker 5: or a McVeigh disciple. Right, so they've got some of
Speaker 5: the staples defensively against the scheme on what works now
Speaker 5: Malik Willis and Jordan Love. That's very different, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: he hadn't coach. He gets a running quarterback, right, so
Speaker 5: that's something. But I even Paige could be back an
Speaker 5: inside linebacker for the Vikings this week. That could be
Speaker 5: getting healthier. Looking at somebody. I just think the Vikings defense,
Speaker 5: I mean what they did. I mean to go out
Speaker 5: there and kick Houston's ass the way it did with
Speaker 5: Jonathan Grenard and Andrew van Ginkel. How great of assignings
Speaker 5: that Flores had him in Miami gets him up to
Speaker 5: Minnesota has already got three sacks. A ton of pressures
Speaker 5: sets the edge, which is key.
Speaker 3: In the scheme. I don't know.
Speaker 5: This is where I think of Malik Willis actually gives
Speaker 5: Green Bay an edge.
Speaker 3: Patrick. I'm one hundred percent with you, Steve.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine the situation where you have a guy
Speaker 4: with an MCL spring that has to get on an
Speaker 4: international flight and come back. We saw him kind of
Speaker 4: hobble out in practice and throw a few passes last week.
Speaker 4: And now we're playing a defense that's getting pressure on
Speaker 4: thirty five percent of dropbacks and is converting eleven percent
Speaker 4: of those to sex right their top three in that
Speaker 4: particular step. Pressures coming from every which way, you're having
Speaker 4: to keep your head on the swivel constantly. Why am
Speaker 4: I gonna send my two hundred million dollar quarterback fresh
Speaker 4: off like he's explaining that he's getting better. I don't
Speaker 4: want to hear that you're getting better. Like we have
Speaker 4: a season to think about here. Why not mix things up?
Speaker 4: Because as you know, you guys have mentioned, this offense
Speaker 4: has proliferated its way literally from sea to shining Sea
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Brian Flores has it, he's got it,
Speaker 4: he's got the players. Why not do something different. He
Speaker 4: was commenting about the way that Matt Lafleur has gone
Speaker 4: from West coast to run in this countertrait power like
Speaker 4: the bib of offense, like flora' Floraes wants Jordan Love
Speaker 4: to play this game like the do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bold statement. So you think they'd have
Speaker 1: a better chance to win with with Willis?
Speaker 3: Then then would Jordan Love limping around?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know if he's gonna leave a limping out.
Speaker 1: So he was at practice on Wednesday. He did more
Speaker 1: and more practice last week. He said he was very
Speaker 1: close to playing. Yeah, last week, which would and to
Speaker 1: make you think he's playing this week. They also had
Speaker 1: him speak to the media. He was in good spirits,
Speaker 1: usually a sign that he's playing. And Patrick, you think,
Speaker 1: you think they should caution here and think about the
Speaker 1: long term and just benjam in a week even if
Speaker 1: he seems ready to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've seen the way that this team can play,
Speaker 4: and I think with Jordan Love that there's a chance
Speaker 4: that the Green Bay Packers can win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I don't want to risk him if it's close. If
Speaker 4: he's saying he was close last week, that they don't
Speaker 4: have a buye until week ten. Right, there's just so
Speaker 4: many things that could go wrong here. They're hot right now,
Speaker 4: you play the hot hand. I'm not saying that Malik
Speaker 4: Willis is a better quarterback than Jordan Love. I just
Speaker 4: think if it's if he's not one hundred percent, I
Speaker 4: don't want him play against this defense.
Speaker 1: You know, one way to maybe beat that those blitzes
Speaker 1: just keep handing the ball off and do some design
Speaker 1: runs with Malik Willis, who was very I mean, he
Speaker 1: ran so well last week you forget of it just
Speaker 1: reminded me of what you see at Liberty and you
Speaker 1: just forget what a crazy talented runner he is. Just
Speaker 1: a natural runner he is. And then how do you
Speaker 1: beat the blitz I mean we're asking a lot here.
Speaker 1: He hit some big plays over the top. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what Jordan Loved to him, did to him last year.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's in they both throw the deep ball.
Speaker 5: I got something for you, Okay, what about you have
Speaker 5: Malik Willis package? Yeah, at all I'm not saying platoon
Speaker 5: these guys, but all of a sudden, okay, wait, Jordan
Speaker 5: Love's going out to wide receiver Malik Willis is in here.
Speaker 3: Okay, what are we looking at?
Speaker 5: You know they're I'm not big on doing something like
Speaker 5: that before a game like this early in the season.
Speaker 3: Put it on film. It's tough.
Speaker 1: I do think you can maybe neutralize a little bit
Speaker 1: of Flores's craziness by rolling with what's been the number
Speaker 1: one ground game in the NFL this season is the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. I mean Emmanuel Wilson. They found another one.
Speaker 1: He really looks like a dog like this, Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: It's not a revenge game.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Read his article on the Players Tribune. It's really great.
Speaker 1: He's one of my all time favorite players that we've covered.
Speaker 1: We had him on the Round the NFL podcast previously.
Speaker 1: I just love it, Like Wes was such a huge
Speaker 1: fan of just how he is as a player. He
Speaker 1: seems like a better person. So I'm sure he's gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of love from the Packers. Faithful and
Speaker 1: it's worked out for both sides. The Packers got the
Speaker 1: number one running game and the Vikings got one. Of
Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great matchup, looking forward to it, and
Speaker 4: everybody's looking forward to our next game.
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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bill's going at the Baltimore Ravens, who are
Speaker 4: two and a half point favorite, despite almost being h
Speaker 4: and three and having one of the worst losses late
Speaker 4: collapses in recent regular season history other than theirs I
Speaker 4: guesst the Miami Dolphins a few years ago forty six
Speaker 4: and a half points. It's gonna be the Sunday night
Speaker 4: game with to Rico, Chris Collinsworth and Melissa Stark on
Speaker 4: the call. The Ravens got in the win column. They
Speaker 4: could easily be oh and three, Greg, they could easily
Speaker 4: be three and oh. How do you see them doing
Speaker 4: against Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take them to win in the end. I
Speaker 1: don't feel strung with the Ravens. No, the Ravens, they're
Speaker 1: the favorites. They're at home. This is not your normal
Speaker 1: one and two team. I think that number reflects what
Speaker 1: the underlying numbers would say about this Ravens team.
Speaker 2: For in Dvoa.
Speaker 1: This is the best team in the league, the Bills
Speaker 1: versus the number five team in the league, the Ravens.
Speaker 1: That the Ravens have been that good. Like I just
Speaker 1: mentioned the Packers have the best running game in the
Speaker 1: league statistically they do, but the Ravens, I think I
Speaker 1: might take them in the like if I just had
Speaker 1: to choose one. Lamar Jackson is running really well this year.
Speaker 1: He is second in the league in success right. Derek
Speaker 1: Henry is breaking about as many tackles yards after contact
Speaker 1: as anyone.
Speaker 2: So it's coming along.
Speaker 1: And I do think over the years, if you want
Speaker 1: to beat a Sean McDermott defense, you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to overpower them and run the ball because they they're
Speaker 1: on their p's and q's. When you throw the ball
Speaker 1: against them, and they're very sound, it's hard to get
Speaker 1: big plays, but you tend to be able to have
Speaker 1: some long drives.
Speaker 2: I do think Lamar and Derrick Henry show up in
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're gonna have to, right because the
Speaker 5: Ravens defense that front, when they were able just to
Speaker 5: pin him back last week against the Jags, I mean,
Speaker 5: you can't stop them. They made the Jags one dimensional
Speaker 5: early Monday night, and that was that if you make
Speaker 5: them start to, you know, work with that run game.
Speaker 5: As we're saying Dereck Henry, I think he's averaging like
Speaker 5: six yards of care. It's crazy. And they got him
Speaker 5: involved last week, right, they used him in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 5: something that they had not done, mixing some Lamar and
Speaker 5: Justice Hill. I think you can keep this Buffalo Bills
Speaker 5: defense off balance. The one thing that worries me, and
Speaker 5: this is why I like Buffalo in this game, is
Speaker 5: you have seen the Ravens, especially in the second half
Speaker 5: of games, get mismatched with their linebackers against opposing receivers,
Speaker 5: whether it's tight end running backs. And where are the
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills where they make their money yep, with knocks
Speaker 5: and with kincaid and we usually Ty Johnson in the past. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And you have seen in every game with the Ravens
Speaker 5: that have been close, you're seeing ro Kwan Smith chasing
Speaker 5: somebody and a mismatch. You're seeing a linebacker Trent and
Speaker 5: and Himpson race chase somebody in a mismatch. They've got
Speaker 5: to figure out how to work that because teams, you
Speaker 5: better believe that Joe Brady's up there looking at because
Speaker 5: that's what you saw all game against Jacksonville. You saw
Speaker 5: them matching up against the inside linebackers against the Jags
Speaker 5: and having them chasing somebody. You better believe that's something
Speaker 5: that's coming the Ravens way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Allen has only missed three passes this entire
Speaker 4: season when targeting the slot. He's twenty three or fix
Speaker 4: and four touchdowns. This is safety Josh. This is the safe,
Speaker 4: not making mistakes version of Josh Allen that we've wanted
Speaker 4: to see for years, and the Jags could do absolutely
Speaker 4: nothing about it. I have real concerns about this this
Speaker 4: Ravens defense in dealing with that because of the issues
Speaker 4: that they've we saw the blown cover against Worthy in
Speaker 4: the opener, the comeback last week, all of the difficulties
Speaker 4: with Davante Adams and the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I'm actually picking the Bills in this game.
Speaker 4: When when I made the picks for gdv hythen emails
Speaker 4: got you're picking against Baltimore, and.
Speaker 2: It's just I can't remember the last time if it's
Speaker 2: ever happened.
Speaker 3: I think once in the past couple of seasons, and
Speaker 3: that was just it was a matchup.
Speaker 4: Then it's it's kind of a matchup now I don't
Speaker 4: know how much of the of the comeback on the
Speaker 4: offensive line. Was the offensive line getting better and falloile
Speaker 4: they played a great game, or was that just the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big time test.
Speaker 3: Ed Oliver is not overmatched.
Speaker 1: No, No, they've That's been one of the stories of
Speaker 1: the season, how much they're getting out of von Miller
Speaker 1: and ed Oliver and Greg Russo. I think they're getting
Speaker 1: more than that because they blitz the least amount in
Speaker 1: the league, but they still can get enough pressure.
Speaker 2: And what an advantage that is.
Speaker 1: I don't think though the Buffalo defense, their linebackers, some
Speaker 1: of their cornerbacks, you know, after Christian Benford.
Speaker 2: Who's he's playing lights out. He's a hell of a player.
Speaker 1: But I think the rest of the other cornerbacks because
Speaker 1: Tarron Johnson is probably out again, and the safety position
Speaker 1: Toamar Hamlin's playing great. But they've only played you know,
Speaker 1: I know they played the Dolphins and they did well
Speaker 1: against Tua there for two and a half quarters. But
Speaker 1: you know that Cardinals moved it up and down on them.
Speaker 1: So I'm not counting on this defense that they're just
Speaker 1: like locked down. It's a test. I believe for them too.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Ravens more, just for stupid reasons. One,
Speaker 1: they tend to be bad in the games where they're
Speaker 1: big favorites or where they have a big lead, but
Speaker 1: they show up for big games.
Speaker 2: This game is really important for them. They're one and two.
Speaker 1: I think it means more to them, and and they're
Speaker 1: at home, and so I probably would pick the Bills
Speaker 1: of if they were at home. I just needed a
Speaker 1: little more from Justin Tucker. If you look at yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that, not just that he's missing kicks. Actually,
Speaker 1: if you look at how when he missed the kick
Speaker 1: in the field position that they gave up, and how
Speaker 1: the other teams went and scored right afterwards, he was
Speaker 1: kind of the reason that Cowboys comeback started. If he
Speaker 1: hits that kick, they're up thirty one six. Instead, it's
Speaker 1: a great field position, and the comeback starts. The week
Speaker 1: before the exact same thing. He was about to put
Speaker 1: the game away, he missed it, the Raiders get great
Speaker 1: field position, comeback start, and the week before it was
Speaker 1: a huge miskick against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: So can you let's go Justin Tucker.
Speaker 3: We need to being in the position of like Hey, justin,
Speaker 3: it's just not happening.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're not Ben, and he's not missing like
Speaker 2: short kicks or anything crazy.
Speaker 3: But he's pushing him all the same side as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Horball said it was a mechanical issue, a
Speaker 4: technique issue, hopefully because you were the one that pointed
Speaker 4: it out weeks ago. It keep going up against kickers
Speaker 4: where the other kickers better. Brandon Aubrey Tyler Bass is
Speaker 4: not in the Brandon Aubrey Kenny. Now, if anybody is
Speaker 4: kicking matchup, I do think favors. The Ravens are at
Speaker 4: the game. They're gonna have to see hope, I hope.
Speaker 1: So I am really really excited for this one Sunday
Speaker 1: night football did it again. They always managed to get
Speaker 1: the best ones.
Speaker 3: They get first.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't get Titans Dolphins. That's coming up after the break.
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Speaker 1: It's Saints, It's Falcon or it is the best rivalry
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And to that, you say, for.
Speaker 3: Forty four years they battle to figure out who wasn't
Speaker 3: the worst eights versus the Alcins.
Speaker 4: It's Steve trying to unite these fan bases, which is
Speaker 4: they've had some moments the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah, good moment.
Speaker 4: It's it is the fifty five right now to fifty
Speaker 4: four all time. The Saints have a one game lead
Speaker 4: can the Atlanta Falcons tied up in Mercedes spin Stadium
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, New Orleans visiting the Falcons, who are a
Speaker 4: two point favorite. Both teams coming off of late, last minute,
Speaker 4: heartbreaking losses. The Falcons saw their star tailback Bejon Robinson
Speaker 4: get tackled for a loss when they needed a couple
Speaker 4: of yards. Greg, do they get a couple of points
Speaker 4: and beat the New Orleans Saints?
Speaker 2: I like the Saints. It's a toss up.
Speaker 1: Just I think they're highs this year have been so
Speaker 1: much higher obviously than the Falcons. But it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: You know, we hadn't talked about it on NFL Daily
Speaker 1: that Eric McCoy is going to be out six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks to flow. And if you're if you're picking
Speaker 1: indispensable players on that Saints offense, he's right near the top.
Speaker 1: You know, he's making the calls, he's setting the protections.
Speaker 1: He was taking a lot off of Derek Carr's plate
Speaker 1: and doing it at a very high level, one of
Speaker 1: the very best centers in the league. And so does
Speaker 1: taking him out make everyone around him a little weaker?
Speaker 1: It certainly looked like that last week when he got
Speaker 1: hurt early in that game, and so that that's real
Speaker 1: concerning for the Saints, as is the fact Alvin Kamara's
Speaker 1: out of practice Wednesday. He finished last week's game, So
Speaker 1: I would tend to think he'll be okay, but that
Speaker 1: would be pretty devastating.
Speaker 2: Two heading on the road.
Speaker 5: Falcons one and two at home lost five of the
Speaker 5: last six to the Saints in Atlanta, but they didn't
Speaker 5: have what.
Speaker 2: Are the crowds like in these I mean the Atlanta
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Look, there's a ton.
Speaker 3: Of Saints fans in Atlanta.
Speaker 5: That happened after Katrina, when a lot of folks were displaced,
Speaker 5: so you're gonna have a whole bunch of hood ads
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 3: But you know, and the Falcons have to earn their owner,
Speaker 3: Arthur Blake, with toys.
Speaker 5: They've got to earn our fans to come back, so
Speaker 5: it's gonna be an interesting crowd. But boy, with this
Speaker 5: one here, I think Atlanta. I'm gonna take Atlanta in
Speaker 5: this one. I just think their offense is finally starting
Speaker 5: to click, even though I just freaking hated that play
Speaker 5: call at to end the game where you're trying to
Speaker 5: stretch it on fourth down with Bijon, But I just
Speaker 5: think that the way that the Falcons offense is starting
Speaker 5: to click, Kyle Pitts is starting to be used right,
Speaker 5: that Drake London is really starting to emerge a player
Speaker 5: we projected to do. So now they've got some things
Speaker 5: against a very good Saints secondary. The only thing that
Speaker 5: I'm afraid of for the Falcons is, you know, Ti
Speaker 5: Mathe and these guys are taking the ball away right
Speaker 5: and you get that pressure on Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3: He's gonna give you one.
Speaker 2: So where was that there? They got dudes, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: got dudes.
Speaker 3: In that secondary.
Speaker 4: They do, and I'm My main concern would be for
Speaker 4: Atlanta personnel wise, because there's been all everybody's looking at
Speaker 4: what Vic Fangio did last week against the offense I
Speaker 4: was playing better than any almost any other offense ever
Speaker 4: to the first couple of weeks of the season, going
Speaker 4: six to one front. Everybody knows like six to one
Speaker 4: against against that that zone run game causes problems. But
Speaker 4: I don't know that everybody has the personnel the Jalen
Speaker 4: Carters of the world, right, the Jordan Davises of the world,
Speaker 4: to do what the Eagles did to the Saints. It's
Speaker 4: the Saints, and I know Eric McCoy being out is huge,
Speaker 4: but I still believe in Clin Kubiak in this offense
Speaker 4: to get the points where it's kind of I could
Speaker 4: pick every single Falcons game wrong this season because it's
Speaker 4: it's coming down to the wire, right, So the question
Speaker 4: of whether Kirk makes the play. Kirk made the play
Speaker 4: against the Eagles, and then I know that we could
Speaker 4: talk about the DPI call. If he gets that ball
Speaker 4: up to Kyle Pitts, then they probably get that rag
Speaker 4: in the first one rown, right, And and so like
Speaker 4: I'm going with Derek Carr because I do think Derek
Speaker 4: Carr is playing better football than Kirk cause wow, And here's.
Speaker 5: One thing I'll say about the Saints offense. If you
Speaker 5: watch the Falcons front, like kayen Nellis, the former st
Speaker 5: Anti linebacker, is a stud. Elsewhere on that second level,
Speaker 5: they have shoes, they are not physical. They've got some
Speaker 5: chase linebackers. And if the Saints are able to run
Speaker 5: the ball like they wore those first two games, Kamara
Speaker 5: or whomever is run the ball might be able to
Speaker 5: pound and get some yards. Because again, kayen Nellis is
Speaker 5: a is an unheralded stud, an INTI linebacker. It's a
Speaker 5: nice pickup, nice pickup to use him a lot on
Speaker 5: the edge to rush the quarterback as well. But they've
Speaker 5: had Trey Anderson in there and he's he's a chase linebacker.
Speaker 5: He is not someone and teams are going right at him. Right,
Speaker 5: That's something that the Saints could do.
Speaker 1: When you see a weakness like that, you go after it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a lot of carry over here because
Speaker 1: the front offices, you know, for the Atlanta comes from
Speaker 1: New Orleans and David Odiamada's over there, and I love it.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite rivalry because of the fans, because they're
Speaker 1: funny and they truly hate each other. It's way more collegiate,
Speaker 1: like not collegiate being friendly, but like the CC. You know,
Speaker 1: it feels like the fans of the SEC who.
Speaker 3: It's secunt I get it.
Speaker 1: And it's like when the Saints are having a bad season,
Speaker 1: if you if they can just beat the Falcons or
Speaker 1: vice versa, or if the Falcons have a bad loss,
Speaker 1: that's almost as good for Saints fans as a Saints win.
Speaker 1: And so hey, these are two teams trying to figure
Speaker 1: each other out. I trust the Saints defense in the
Speaker 1: end more than any other group in this game. To me,
Speaker 1: the Falcons are kind of a middle of the road team.
Speaker 1: We'll see what the Saints are. They're gonna have some
Speaker 1: ups and downs, but I think that defense is gonna
Speaker 1: travel and I really like them. Carl Granderson is playing
Speaker 1: out of his mind. He's a Pro Bowl he always has.
Speaker 1: He always seems like a whole other level.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was good. He took a step last
Speaker 2: year and he's taking another step.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a good player. And one thing about the
Speaker 5: Falcons defense too typical Raheem Morris. They're gonna give up
Speaker 5: five hundred yards between the twenties, but they don't allow touchdown.
Speaker 3: They got something to watch as well, a team that
Speaker 3: gave up both yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Last week, the Las Vegas Raiders got Dalton at home,
Speaker 4: and now they're back at home in a two point favorite.
Speaker 4: Somebody's got a win because the Cleveland Browns got done
Speaker 4: up by the Leak Neighbors and the New York Giants
Speaker 4: last week. Should the Raiders be a two point favorite?
Speaker 5: Steve, This is tough, especially wh your head coach college
Speaker 5: y'all for making business decisions. But Antonio Pierce has that
Speaker 5: right because he was a badass player, right. He knows
Speaker 5: what's up. He knows when guys are not tough, playing
Speaker 5: tough football. I'm gonna give I'm gonna give the Raiders
Speaker 5: the two points here because Cleveland they're so banged up.
Speaker 5: I mean, right now they're talking about both tackles are
Speaker 5: nicked up again, Miles Garrett is nicked up, David Njoku
Speaker 5: is nicked up, and frankly, they look a mess. Right,
Speaker 5: They're an incredibly talented team, but Patrick, you mentioned earlier
Speaker 5: about some team not knowing what they are like they
Speaker 5: have not established themselves identity wise. We knew what they
Speaker 5: were last year is a great defensive football team that
Speaker 5: hasn't shown up consistently this year, and so I don't
Speaker 5: know them traveling. It's a game that that that the
Speaker 5: Browns should win, right, It's a game.
Speaker 3: They should win.
Speaker 2: Can't believe they're underdogs.
Speaker 3: I mean I can't either.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't tell you that you need to bench
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson sooner than later.
Speaker 2: And I had all though, yes, he's terrible.
Speaker 1: He he's missing throws when when he is protected, he's
Speaker 1: completely panicking when he's not. I granted about it for
Speaker 1: five minutes on Yesterday's NFL Daily, so I'm not going
Speaker 1: to repeat it there. But I think he is a
Speaker 1: huge part of the problem based on how we've seen
Speaker 1: every other quarterback literally that Kevin Stefanski's ever coached in
Speaker 1: Cleveland operate.
Speaker 2: He's not making quick decisions.
Speaker 1: But to your point about the injuries, and this is
Speaker 1: probably why Miles Garrett now has an achilles injury ANAS
Speaker 1: and he's not practicing at all, and they said he'll
Speaker 1: make the trip to Vegas and hopefully he'll play. But
Speaker 1: Garrett Jack Conklin Jedge, your Quills, David and Joku, Jordan Hicks,
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford all out of practice in my Wyatt Teller
Speaker 1: landing on injured reserves. So that's a lot of injuries,
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive line.
Speaker 3: And well Max Crosby playing hurt last week as well.
Speaker 4: That's stuff both Max Crosby and Miles Garrett dealing with
Speaker 4: the injuries, two guys whose franchises have really underperformed for
Speaker 4: them throughout their careers.
Speaker 3: Let's go over to.
Speaker 4: Another game where there's a bad matchup in terms of style.
Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers one and a half point favorites, bringing
Speaker 4: that run game into Indianapolis, who has not stopped anybody
Speaker 4: on the ground the over under thirty nine and a
Speaker 4: half points. Anthony Richardson had some head scratchers last week. Greg,
Speaker 4: does he get it figured out enough to deal with
Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Sh I've gotten back and forth.
Speaker 1: I can't decide on this game because something tells me
Speaker 1: the Colts are like a two and two type of
Speaker 1: team and that the Steelers aren't really a four to
Speaker 1: oh type of team.
Speaker 3: So usually the.
Speaker 1: Schedule, like the record gods just kind of decide, Okay,
Speaker 1: they'll get one here the Colts, and yet when you
Speaker 1: watch them, Athy Richardson just isn't taking the check downs.
Speaker 1: He's not getting the easy stuff. The thing that gets
Speaker 1: me the most. He's clearly in his own head. You
Speaker 1: feel for him, he said after the game. He's so
Speaker 1: hard on myself. I got to give myself grace. But
Speaker 1: he's not, like he's saying. You can almost see him
Speaker 1: second guessing himself that it really stuck out to me
Speaker 1: on the RPO decisions. But you would think that would
Speaker 1: be something he could do well. He keeps giving the
Speaker 1: ball when he should keep it. He keeps keeping the
Speaker 1: ball when he should give it, and it's just scrambling
Speaker 1: things up. And it's too bad because Jonathan Taylor's looks
Speaker 1: like one of the best players in the league right now,
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the league.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, I've got Pitchburg that, you know, beating
Speaker 5: that number. Because when you have a quarterback who's in
Speaker 5: his head and the RPA RPO game is his thing,
Speaker 5: and you've got TJ. Watt and now Nick Herbig because
Speaker 5: Heismith is not two stud outside linebackers who can game
Speaker 5: you up in the rush or in the RPO game.
Speaker 5: That's problematic. So he better jump out of his head
Speaker 5: big time starting on Wednesday and get ready because they
Speaker 5: you know, you're gonna see just some base four man looks.
Speaker 5: They're probably not gonna do anything crazy in a passing situation,
Speaker 5: So heat him up a little bit. But the fact
Speaker 5: he's completing less than fifty percent of his passes, I
Speaker 5: don't think they're nervous at all, especially with Minka Fitzpatrick
Speaker 5: and those guys in the back end.
Speaker 4: I think one thing that makes it difficult for Anthony
Speaker 4: Richardson to work out of this slump is getting the
Speaker 4: possessions that they need because they just haven't been able
Speaker 4: to be on the field very long. Because the defense
Speaker 4: is seeing teams march up and down the field. Joe
Speaker 4: Mixon goes for one fifty three in the opener. They've
Speaker 4: given up more rushing yards to running backs than any
Speaker 4: other team in the league right now, and he's gonna
Speaker 4: be nit or miss sometimes right right.
Speaker 3: It's that's just a circumstance that he's gonna have to
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, on the other side, as they've started with this
Speaker 4: justin fields package, it's evolved more and more looking pretty good,
Speaker 4: you know, Mike Tomins gonna be Mike tom He's not
Speaker 4: going to say, hey, this is just Justin Fields job now,
Speaker 4: but it seems like he's getting more and more comfortable
Speaker 4: every single week.
Speaker 3: Can contrast this where it's like Michael Pittman Junior is
Speaker 3: a on a milk carton right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just I trust the Steelers passing game more,
Speaker 4: or trust their running game more. It's hard to go
Speaker 4: against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: So I don't test their running game.
Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 1: They finished out last week strong against the Chargers. I
Speaker 1: think that was a big step forward.
Speaker 3: Wellanders has some dudes up front.
Speaker 1: Right, but really the running game has been erratic at best.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them in this matchup against the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: use Justin Fields a little more in the design running game,
Speaker 1: get naj Harris and Jalen Wore and going. The Colts
Speaker 1: were able to kind of stop a bad run team
Speaker 1: with the Bears last week so that they could feel
Speaker 1: a little better. So I think that's a key matchup.
Speaker 1: And then I think the Colt Colts aren't going to
Speaker 1: be consistent throwing the ball. They need to They need
Speaker 1: to keep hitting those big plays. Maybe you can use
Speaker 1: a little bit of Joey Porter, you know, his aggressiveness
Speaker 1: against them, who knows and hit a couple of those
Speaker 1: bombs and and let Taylor and Anthony Richardson do the
Speaker 1: rest on the ground.
Speaker 2: You know, they should be one of the best running games.
Speaker 3: In the league.
Speaker 4: If you want inconsistent passing games, do I have a
Speaker 4: matchup for you? It is the Tennessee Titans against the
Speaker 4: tool lists Miami Dolphins, who offered pretty much nothing. Greg
Speaker 4: on the road against the Seattle Seahawks with Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 4: Will Levis had to pick six, but he didn't do
Speaker 4: it throwing a doing a cartwheel or anything. Last week
Speaker 4: over under thirty six and a half points. Which offense
Speaker 4: is not going to make the mistakes?
Speaker 3: Greg? Whoa?
Speaker 2: Which one is not going to make the mistakes?
Speaker 1: I think they'll both make the mistakes, but I think
Speaker 1: the Titans are more likely to make good plays too.
Speaker 1: If I had to choose one, I feel for Orlovski,
Speaker 1: you know, Riddick and Laura Rutledge. I think this is
Speaker 1: a good group. I enjoy watching their broadcast too, and
Speaker 1: both of their last week they got a blow out
Speaker 1: that was you know, it was a fun blowout. It
Speaker 1: was a good team seeing an MVP type performance by
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and then this one not what they were
Speaker 1: hoping for. I continue to not know what the hell's
Speaker 1: up with Will Levis because he really looks pretty awesome
Speaker 1: for like eighty percent of the place, But you just
Speaker 1: can't I guess you can't live with that that the
Speaker 1: other twenty percent just goes so side.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's Jay Cutler. I mean that that's
Speaker 3: exactly what is like.
Speaker 1: They'd love it if he was Jay Cutler, like prime
Speaker 1: Jill Cutley's He's a ways from getting like, you know,
Speaker 1: a Jay Cutler type BEARSS contract.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is like he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 5: look good, he's gonna make these throws, and then he's
Speaker 5: just gonna do something where you're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: you know he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna give it.
Speaker 5: I actually like Miami in this game because their they're
Speaker 5: playmakers like they don't have. I think this is one
Speaker 5: where McDaniels could be like, Okay, I got a second week,
Speaker 5: whether Skyler Thompson or you know whomever. I think they're
Speaker 5: talking about Snoop Huntley.
Speaker 3: Possibly Kim Boyle. It's a mystery, right, but it's not
Speaker 3: a mystery to me. It's Snoop Huntley.
Speaker 5: I would start snoopomp Huntley, and he started games for
Speaker 5: the Ravens for years. I'd put him in and let
Speaker 5: him get the ball to the playmaker. Snoop is from Miami,
Speaker 5: go ahead and let him get his home game on.
Speaker 5: And I mean Tennessee, just the mistakes that they make.
Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Rams, you may score two touchdowns in
Speaker 5: this game for Miami playing against this so I like
Speaker 5: the Dolphins in this game. It's just tough for me
Speaker 5: to pick the mistakes. I recognize that they're going to
Speaker 5: continue happening, but if we're evaluating the teams and the
Speaker 5: circumstances that they're in, it's just having seen this team
Speaker 5: without Tua for multiple times over the past few years,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to pick this team like Tim Bowles
Speaker 5: either and Skyler Thompson. They used motion the third lowest
Speaker 5: rate of the Miman daniel era. They can't run Mike
Speaker 5: McDaniel's offense with those two.
Speaker 1: Players, and the Titans do one thing exceptionally well as
Speaker 1: a team which has stop the run, like no one
Speaker 1: can do physical, you know, And I know the Packers
Speaker 1: got some go into the outside, but they were created.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's going to happen this week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Dolphins had a lot of
Speaker 1: issues with to a healthy and that was something that
Speaker 1: was really on my run, That's what I mean. And
Speaker 1: they even the offense didn't play well for six and
Speaker 1: a half quarters with Tua and suddenly you take them
Speaker 1: out and you think, is this the worst team in
Speaker 1: the NFL, because you know, efficiency wise DVOA so far
Speaker 1: they are. They're dead last. And it's not just the offense,
Speaker 1: it's the defense. The defense is not playing well either.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where this team has any positives.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they're going to be in the primetime spotlight
Speaker 1: with everyone watching.
Speaker 5: Everyone's gonna be flipping over to the other game on
Speaker 5: ABC because that is a dandy Seattle in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, we only get how many games now?
Speaker 1: I used to know it was two fifty six, So
Speaker 1: now what is it? It's two seventy or something like,
Speaker 1: there's only two seventy four. There's only two seventy four
Speaker 1: of these uh babies, They're all beautiful. So I still
Speaker 1: love our Titans Dolphins Monday night game. Maybe it'll be
Speaker 1: so bad it's good. That's perfect. Uh, you guys are
Speaker 1: just so good, it's good.
Speaker 4: Uh.
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