1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Walk up to NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sports Book, 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: where we're out of our walking boot. I am Greg 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesleyan Podcast studio with Steve 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Weisch and Patrick Claybond. 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: Maybe Justin Herbert's back this week, Baby, he's not. 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: Who knows it's it'd be tough to imagine. 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: We had this conversation with Jordan Love, Like last week 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: we were watched a guy like hobble out there and 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 4: throw one pass a practice. Some people like Love's back 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: and it's like, wait, why would why would they do 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: that here so early in the season. I understand they 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: lost last week, Steve, but this, this is. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 5: What Jim Harbaugh was like, Well, we had him up 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 5: there gats Alex High School with the TJ. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: Why what's right? 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 5: You know, let's go ahead and put him out there, get Stone, 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 5: Cole Jones and at George, Carl Aftis and and Dana 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 5: and all of you know. 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: He could ticket handle it. 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: It is crazy. We'll get to that game soon. 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: But yes, Justin Herbert is progressing, according to Harbor, and 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: that just was was sticking in my mind. How badly 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: like these teams want to win this game for to us, 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: it feels early week four, But like if you've just 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: had a loss in your Jim Harbaugh or you're one 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: of these zero to three teams, it feels late. 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: They gotta gotta get a w. 28 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: You never have to balance out anything to say Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: Now when you're you're watching Taylor Heinekee you practice, you 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: look over herbo and you're like, all right, man, let's 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: get that hyper hyperbolic chamber. Not the hyperbolic chamber. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: That's all. That's DVZ. What was What was t o 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: N is the. 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 5: You're killing Greg though. I mean if you don't mention 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: an Eastern stick's name like. 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Greg, No, No, that's good. No, I'm glad it should 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: be Taylor Heineke. That's not the first game we're gonna 38 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: mention it. It's the second. Because we're going from the 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: biggest to the smallest spreads this week, we're just we're 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: just flipping it on its head. 41 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: Because the league has been flipping it on its head 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: because man, big favorites have been coming up short time 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: after time again, including a team that we saw win 44 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: in Week one and that is the New England Patriots. 45 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: But they're having to come all the way out here 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: to Santa Clara to take on the forty nine Ers, 47 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: who are a ten point favorite. Despite all of the injuries, 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: we spent portions of the game with no Trent Williams, 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: no George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk was playing, Deebo Samuel wasn't. 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: Of course, Juwan Jennings goes off Greg ten points. 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: Although I'm afraid of taking the Patriots in any scenario 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: after me and you Patrick both took them straight up 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: last week and it was the most one sided game 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: this side of Buffalo Jacksonville. Yeah, that's too much for me. 56 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to choose it, I'm taking 57 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: the points there. And yet I certainly would take the 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers because look, their quarterback is playing outstanding. 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go positive and say that was one of 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: the best Black Black party games I ever saw. When 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: I turned on that tape and I went through, I 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: was like, did he have almost a perfect day? I mean, 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: he's he's running the ball, well, the guys aren't that open. 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: He had the second highest tight window throw rate in 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the league so far this season, so you haven't seen 66 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: a lot of open receivers. There's not a lot of 67 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: yak right now, so their offense is a little off. 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: But Jordan Mason is a good running back. They're moving 69 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: the ball, and perty I think is showing he actually 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: can elevate. He just needs some help from his defense 71 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: and special teams. The offense really hasn't been the problem. 72 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't hurt if Brandon Ayuke held onto the ball. Yes, 73 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 5: he is off to a tough start, and once he 74 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: gets going, then this offense is going to open up. 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 76 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: Ten is way too big of a number because his 77 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 5: Patriot's defense is pretty good. I mean, for everything you 78 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: just said about Brock Purt, his Patriots defense is not bad. 79 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: Okay, can I push back on that just a little bit, 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Like that's what I thought coming into the year, But 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: in reality the last two weeks, their front's been pushed 82 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: around a little bit. Christian Gonzales is good, but I 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know. They were kind of dominated last week against 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: the Jets and just up front. 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't thrilled against this. 86 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: I'm checking that. It's just like, Okay, Week three was nuts. 87 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: I think they'll be better this week. I just the 88 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: ten points is a lot that over unders thirty nine 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: point five probably on the mark, because I wouldn't be 90 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: surprised if by the fourth quarter we are seeing Tom 91 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: Drake May a lot more conversation about Drake May getting 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 5: playing time, getting thirty percent or more of the first 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 5: team reps. In practice, you can see Jacoby Brissett is 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: back on that turnstyle. 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: Well, then the thing is, maybe Jacoby is looking over 96 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: at this forty four point eight percent pressure rate that 97 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: the offensive line right is allowing. It says, all right, Rook, 98 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: go ahead there, get in there and try to make 99 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: it work, because it's I too would say that ten 100 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: points is too many. But then, having as Greg mentioned, 101 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: picked the Patriots to the Jets, I don't know if 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: ten points is going to be enough considering just how 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: poorly they protected Jacoby present throughout that game. And then 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: on the other side, brock Party he and Joe Burrow 105 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: have legitimate complaints as two guys that played spectacular football 106 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: in Week three and still came up with the loss. 107 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: It's just the universe collaborating to make sure it didn't happen. 108 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Right, So this is, you know, the a two time 109 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: NFC championship team in the forty nine, coming off a loss, 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: knowing that they need a win, you kind of trust 111 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: them in this spot. But the case for the Patriots 112 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: keeping it close is, hey, this is one front actually 113 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: that the Patriots might be able to protect Jacoby. This 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: has been a bad defense. They haven't been able to 115 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: rush the passer. It's Bosa and not much else up front. 116 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: They have some weaknesses in coverage with Campbell and Isaac 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Yadam has been struggled. Their special teams is among the 118 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: worst in the league, killing them every week. So it's 119 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a game where they could they could. I think Jacoby 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: is going to survive and play maybe his best game 121 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: of the year because of the matchup. 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 5: Remember Javon Hargraves out for the year too, tourist triceps, 123 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 5: so you know, the stud interior tackle that's an issue. 124 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: But I was about to say that one thing about 125 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: the Niners defensively, they have got to be sick. They 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: could not get the Rams off the field in the 127 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: second half, especially on third down last week. They're getting 128 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 5: hit on all kinds of intermediate routes. They're going to 129 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: have to tighten some things up if they're going to 130 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: continue to be the supposed dominant team in the NFC. 131 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Then again, that was Sean mcaher running it up. 132 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: Show me something, Alex van Pel, I need to see 133 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: a little something. 134 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, what if I told you got your lunch taken 135 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: sixty percent of the time that you walked into the cafeteria. 136 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: The Patriots are getting hit behind the line of scrimmage 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: fifty eight percent of the time on their carriers. It's 138 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: bad at ten points. Ten points, might be might be irrational. 139 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: The second biggest spread of the week is right over there, 140 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: across the other side of the building and across the 141 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: street from US at SOFI Stadium. The Kansas City Chiefs 142 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: seven and a half point favorites at the Chargers. Jim Nantz, 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson on the call, they're probably 144 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: in meetings looking at Justin Herbert's ankle. We're going to 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: be doing that all week, trying to figure out who's 146 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: actually going to start Steve. Regardless, the Chargers could be 147 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: in a tough situation. 148 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 5: Seven and a half is too big for me, just 149 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: because the Chiefs are going to make it tight no 150 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: matter what. 151 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: They're just that team. 152 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 5: They don't wipe teams out, you know, Jim Harball will 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 5: have the Chargers regardless if it's Taylor Heineke, whomever fired 154 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: up to play this game. You know, the Chiefs are 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: having to grind out every win. I do think this 156 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 5: is gonna be a big Travis Kelcey game. The Chargers 157 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 5: number Derwin James is suspended for this game, so they 158 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: don't have the matchup that's gonna afford, you know, to 159 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: put a man on Kelsey. 160 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna be zone. 161 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: We know Kelsey is the big zone beater, so for 162 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: all the questions about him, I think he's gonna go off. 163 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna see more of that guy there, 164 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: Rashie Rice, who's outstanding. But seven and a half just 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: too big of a number. I think the Chiefs went 166 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: out right, but to seven. 167 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: And a half. 168 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're I should have mentioned at the top 169 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: last week we were bold, we were united, and we survived. 170 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: We picked as a Seattle Seahawks as a team together. 171 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: After yeah, it didn't go so well the first few weeks. 172 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to jump back in and help everyone in 173 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: their survivor polls. That wasn't the biggest spread of the week, 174 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: but we're gonna pick up again today as a team. 175 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: As a team preview show team, I think the Chiefs 176 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: are great option. You're saying that the Chargers might keep 177 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it close. Taylor Heineke is either he's starting this game, 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: and he actually had a very high PFF scored last week. 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I was like, how did that happen? Then I went 180 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: back and watched he threw two passes in the game. 181 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: One of them was nice. I was like, that was 182 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: a nice pass. So they you know, that's how the 183 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: grades work out. I guess it's sort of perfect. 184 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Might only right. 185 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: It was very nice, kind of second level over the 186 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: defender type of throw. 187 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I'd give them a chance with Taylor Heineke to keep 188 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: it close, but not much of one eastern stick. 189 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give him any. But here here's the problem. 190 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: Your favorite player. 191 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: Joe Alt might be missing this game. Is going to 192 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: miss this game. Rayshawn Slater might miss this game. Joey 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Bosa might miss this game. Herbert is clearly not right. 194 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Those are their five best players, Like, make a list 195 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: of their best players. I'm I'm happy getting the Survivor pick. 196 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: Are you guys? Are you guys with me on this one? 197 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: I'm with you? On this one. OK. 198 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: Again, I'm somes been touchy this. It's gonna be Steve, 199 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: because again Steve, we're gonna have to do this. 200 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: Because you guys let me come in and cheat on this. 201 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: You let me come in week two, so. 202 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: We're all we're all cheating and if we lose, it'll 203 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: it'll end. But I think we're going to go rest 204 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: of the season. 205 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: But it's not just us. 206 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: It's about the folks who have somehow managed to survived 207 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: to this point in this chaotic Survivor League season thus far. 208 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: We want to give them an option, and I feel like, 209 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: considering the injuries mounting on the Chargers, their difficulty dealing 210 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: with this team in general, it feels like a safer 211 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: pick for me. 212 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is that the Chiefs have kind 213 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: of become a running team, and I think that's a 214 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: good way to beat this Chargers team. 215 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: Like they're number one in the NFL and success rate. 216 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: There's like a stat where it's rushing attempts over expected, 217 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: just like in certain situations, would you expect them to 218 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: run or pass the ball? And the Chiefs are always 219 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're way over you know, in terms of 220 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: they pass way more than they run than you would. 221 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: Expect this year. Actually, they run even in passing situations. 222 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: They run because. 223 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's just playing back and they're they're great at running 224 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: the ball and picking up those four to five yards 225 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: even with Carson Steel number one running back in the 226 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: league in terms of success right. 227 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: And Kareem Hunt could be playing this week. It sounds 228 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: like he's gonna play this. 229 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: That would be cool. 230 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes, it's like he's not really dazzling right now, 231 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: but he's he's a humble man and he's just happy 232 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: to take those four yards handing. 233 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: The ball off because it's it's working and much to 234 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: his chagrin, and he talks about, you know, disappointing performances like, okay, 235 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: Patrick won the Super Bowl. 236 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: It's like trying to enjoy. 237 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Things, but he's kind of been dil of disappointing. 238 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 5: It's the same stuff we were saying, No, this is more, 239 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: this is more, this is more, but it's it's it's 240 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna happen. It's it's gonna open up. 241 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: I just got I just say when when it's Juju 242 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: and Kelsey out there, that's one of the slowest teams 243 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 244 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but way too worthy in Hollywood. Caron come back. 245 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: It's still early. 246 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: Big Big Red said, don't worry, Travis doesn't washed the 247 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: defense are not treating it. 248 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 5: Patrick Creank's got the guys who need a tugboat to 249 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: get off the line of scrim Wow. 250 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: I definitely have some juju bitterness about the New England Days. 251 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: Got men zone last week's speaking of a success last week, 252 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: let's go to the Denver Broncos who went on the 253 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: road down to Tampa Bay and got a win over 254 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: the previously unbeaten Tampa Bay Buccaneers and now they are 255 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: seven and a half point underdogs at Aaron Rodgers and 256 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: the New York Jets. Ian Eagle Charles Davis or dear 257 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: friend and Evan Washburn on the call. Greg was that 258 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: the Patriots or was that the Jets? 259 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: It was both. That was the best Jets game. 260 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: It was a short week Thursday night football, But most 261 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: importantly it was Aaron Rodgers showing that he can be 262 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and that the Jets defense. I'll bring up 263 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: the defense first. I think can be flexible, Like maybe 264 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: they don't have the peer pass rushers that they need 265 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: to beat the top level competition. But in the last 266 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: two weeks you've actually seen Robert Sala, who kind of 267 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: runs what he runs usually get very creative, show very 268 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: different fronts against the Tennessee where they only had a 269 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: couple of linemen and then they're doing all sorts off 270 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: and then blitz like crazy against the Patriots, and you 271 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: know what, it worked like he can mix it up. 272 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: You have an outstanding secondary. Maybe you don't have TJ. 273 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Moseley at linebacker this week. We'll have to go see. 274 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: But you have a lot that you like. 275 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: Going up against BONICKX. 276 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: Seven and a half is too small for this one. Okay, 277 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna wowa peel the layer back had a 278 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: conversation with Sala this summer or the spring, I should 279 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: say they're still they're still feeling though. Sean Payton remarks, 280 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: spot Nathaniel Hackett. Remember, oh, even though the Jets got that, 281 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: even though the Jets beat him last year, Aaron Rodgers 282 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: didn't get to play. Remember keep my coach's name out 283 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: of your mouth, Aaron Rodgers. He gets to play in 284 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: this one. So if you, hey, they made Nate Nate 285 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 5: Hackett might be like, hey, Aaron taking knee right here, 286 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: We're up twelve. Aaron's gonna be like check can can right, 287 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: going to play too, and he sent a Garrett Wilson 288 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 5: on the on the bus you canna get past Pats 289 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 5: or Tan. I think if the Jets have an opportunity, 290 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: they are going to exercise tail whipping in this one. 291 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: So Sala's talking about this matchup back in July. 292 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Oh, there's still a little bitter takes. There's still a 293 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: little bitter taste. Hey, they're gonna try extra hard. 294 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: Glad Glad that that that's carried on throughout a couple 295 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: of seasons. Now I'm just Patrick tretan this this this season, 296 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Mike Evans, George Pickens, DK Metcalf, he kind of they 297 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: kind of all got certained. And so now what we've 298 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: seen in the past couple of weeks like much too. 299 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: You know, which has been a problem for Garrett Wilson 300 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: fantasy managers is it doesn't have to be all Garrett 301 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: Wilson like it was for substantial points of last season. 302 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: Rogers can spread the ball around and so like the 303 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: biggest issue that the Broncos will will bring in, which 304 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: is certain con becomes a non issue. The way that 305 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: the Rogers and getting the ball out of his hand 306 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 4: are pretty quickly, And we're gonna have to figure out 307 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: if that was a one week blip or if if 308 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: bo Nicks in this offense are just this unders unstoppable. 309 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: Non non touchdown throwing bow knicks in this offense. 310 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: He came very close, though, he came very close. 311 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: I think Courtland Sutton was down at like the three 312 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: foot line and he. 313 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: Hit a couple of throws down the field in the 314 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: very first drive. After that, they let him work underneath. 315 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: They got it done. They're a very interesting matchup. They've 316 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: been blitzing like crazy more than any team in the league. 317 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: They will probably do that to Aaron Rodgers. We'll see 318 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: how he does. He fared well against pressure last week. 319 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the most noteworthy performances 320 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: of the young season. Just Rogers making plays outside the pocket. Yeah, 321 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: he looked at and looking like the old Rogers. And 322 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: to your point, Patrick, that the secondary guys and by 323 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: that I mean the other weapons, you know, Lazard and Conklin. 324 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: How Braylen Allen might be a better like it down 325 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: and down running back than Brece Hall. Breeshall is more explosive. 326 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: But I just mean, like he can be consistent and 327 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: maybe make brees Hall better by not having to give 328 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: him twenty five. 329 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: That's a hell of accommodation. 330 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: Remember, they're not going to have Morgan MoES just to 331 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: right tackle this game, so that's something to look out for. 332 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: But the fact that they're running the ball and they've 333 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 5: got two running backs who can break tackles and hit 334 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: you know, some big chunk plays with their speed and shiftiness, 335 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: I think that's something that's you know, going to allow 336 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: them to beat that. 337 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: Spread, right. 338 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: I trust I trust Rogers against these crazy defenses like 339 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: that was it like against New England. He knew what 340 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: they were doing when, whether they were in zone, whether 341 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: they're in man, whether they're moving before the step. He's like, man, 342 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: that dude was like a coach out there, knowing what 343 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: they're going to do. So I think he could probably 344 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: handle the splits. The Broncos, I did want to mention, 345 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: will be without their leading tackler one of their better 346 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: defensive players, Alex Singleton, is out for the season with 347 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: a torn acl came as a big surprise to the 348 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: Broncos and the team. He got hurt in the first 349 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: quarter last week, played the entire game with a torn 350 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: acl complained of knees soreness after the game or I 351 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: think even on Monday, and then it turned. 352 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, he's out for the years. So that's a 353 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: tough loss. 354 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: These guys are tough, dude, tough loss. Different. Wow. 355 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's brutal, and it's tough to even imagine not 356 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: just playing but finishing the game going through. 357 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: Fifty he didn't miss a snap, not even one. 358 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: That's that's bananas. Bananas. 359 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: Also bananas was the performance from the Jacksonville Jaguars are 360 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: Monday Night Football. Thankfully everybody had a second viewing option 361 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: on that one. They are going on the road after 362 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: getting blown out on the road in Buffalo to the 363 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: division rival Houston Texans, who are a seven point favorite. 364 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: But who's Steve also had a struggle fest performance against 365 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: Brian Flores's defense. 366 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: What else is new? Everybody's doing? Right? How do they 367 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: bounce back here in this one? 368 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: Steve, I have to tell you, first off, the seven points, 369 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: I don't know, it seems a little why just because 370 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: division game, well a division game. The Jags have won 371 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: the last two times they've played in Houston. But the 372 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: thing is, you know, as much as we like to 373 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: say every game players are motivated, nothing means more. This 374 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 5: is a very fragile time for the Jags. The next 375 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: two weeks, Houston and then the Colts. They have got 376 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 5: to win these two games because then they go to 377 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: London and where they play the Bears and Patriots. Okay, 378 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: we'll see what happens here. Then they come back against 379 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 5: the Packers, Eagles, Vikings Alliance. If they don't get some 380 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 5: momentum going right now, that stretch post London is going 381 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 5: to be a glee that's resume updating time. 382 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: So I think this is one Houston is they got. 383 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: They got embarrassed last week. 384 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 5: I mean, they played terrible on offense, their defense got 385 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 5: dragged just things that we hadn't seen. I mean, they 386 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: got completely carved up. So I expect Houston to play better. 387 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 5: But this is one where the Jaguars, if they don't 388 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 5: play their best game, they're in trouble and they're gonna 389 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: be out there leading Tacker Foyer, Luacun the inside linebacker, 390 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 5: and the way that defense just got out schemed Monday night, 391 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: I mean Josh Allen found every one on one matchup 392 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: in the intermediate passing game to gash them. If they 393 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: don't tighten some things up, it's gonna get real hot 394 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 5: for a lot of folks down there in Jacksonville. 395 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: They look like a poorly coach team. Yes, I'm just 396 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: talking about on offense. I mean a bad defensive performance. 397 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: The first couple of weeks, we're solid. It's a new coordinator. 398 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they're very talented, and they're down their 399 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: top three cornerbacks potentially for this week. They were last 400 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: week once that game started and they had another injury 401 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: in the back. So you're just not fighting with a 402 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: full deck. You're expecting your offense to at least keep 403 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: you in games. And that's where I think they haven't 404 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: looked like a well coached team because players aren't in 405 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: the right spot. Guys aren't making blocks that they're supposed 406 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: to make, there's formation penalties, there's confusion, and Trevor's not 407 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: making it better either. He's not playing well. He's kind 408 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: of playing down to the competition, and so that's a 409 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: tough spot. I know they beat Tamiko Ryans and the 410 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Texans last year in Houston, but they split. Both games 411 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: were closed it's a division game. You would expect that 412 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: on some level. It's tough. This team has no identity. 413 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a tough spot. So I always actually 414 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: think it's almost a worse spot. When you're going up 415 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: against team that just lost, like a good team, like, 416 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: it always freshens you up a little bit. I feel 417 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: like the Texans will be on there. He's in cues 418 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: for this game. 419 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 420 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: The reason for concern would I mean, the reason for 421 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: optimism for Jacksonville would just be the familiarity. Yeah, other 422 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: than that, the play calling is not in syanc. In 423 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, there were questions to Doug 424 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: Peterson whether he or press so who's actually making the calls, 425 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: like who's putting the game plan together? As the season 426 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: goes on and we've come up to a situation where 427 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: the Jags have the second deepest route depth in the 428 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: league right now. They got Gabe Davis and BTJ running 429 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: these deep routes. Yeah, Trevor's not being protected. He's negative 430 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: eleven and completion percentage above expectation when they don't run 431 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: reaction and so it's just all of these combinations. 432 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny though, because that was the thing 433 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: everyone got on them a year ago. It's like, this 434 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: is a dank and dunk offense, and then okay, let's 435 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: get two burners. Let's like listen to the criticism almost 436 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: and overreact the other way and just like make it 437 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: a bombs away offense. And they've over corrected too much 438 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and they look like a team that don't know who 439 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: they are. 440 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: Now. 441 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: I do want to just say something about the texanstuff 442 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I've been I'm into this team. I like him. Offensive No, 443 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be great. I think they're one of the 444 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: AFC offensively. 445 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: CJ. 446 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: Stroud Like there's something like they're not in sync with 447 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: their offense. He's playing well, but they're not consistently making plays. 448 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Success rate is as a stat that measures just on 449 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: a play debate play basis, were you successful. He is 450 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: thirty second out of thirty five quarterbacks this year now, 451 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of other metrics and eye tests like 452 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: PFF is more about the great day to day great 453 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: or play to play great. He's doing well, QBR he's great, 454 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: Like he's playing well, but the passing game is just 455 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: relying on like great plays. But then there's a lot 456 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: of mistakes there's a lot of penalties, there's some miscommunicate. 457 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Offensive line guys are good. There's a lot of negative plays, 458 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, a lot of interceptions, a lot 459 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: of negative runs. So they they're kind of like this 460 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: boomer Bus offense. I think they're gonna get it together. 461 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: This is about early in the season. But it's just 462 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: interesting because they had a lot of continuity. I wouldn't 463 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: have expected them to be so uneven to start. 464 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 5: Once they get mixing back and pierced back. You know, 465 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: both their starting running backs have been out. That changes things. Okay, 466 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: it changes your protections and things like that. How you 467 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: do it? How are teams adjusting? Just Stefon Diggs right now, 468 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to start shifting their attention to Nico Collins. 469 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: That's going to open up some other things as well. 470 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: But you're right, some of the negative players are having. 471 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 5: Laramie Tuntal has had I think a decent amount of 472 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: penalties here at left tackle. They will tighten that up. 473 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they tightened in a big 474 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: time this week. No with at stake, but yeah, I 475 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 5: mean preseason's over, right, we can get through all that 476 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: stuff now where we say the first three or four 477 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 5: games in the preseason, for these guys, it's over. 478 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: It's real now. 479 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 4: And it's also it's difficult to get healthier playing football. 480 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes the people forget because Tank Dell had that broken 481 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 4: leg right last season, working his way back, actually got 482 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: shot in an incident. Yeah, in the off season, but 483 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 4: those these things take time. Unfortunately, the season is kind 484 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: of coalescing with that. But if he's able to get 485 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 4: kind of closer back to where he was last year 486 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 4: than I think the worries are. 487 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is the week they get healthy. 488 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Those matchup problems for yeah, the Jaguars on the outside. 489 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. 490 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: We'll be back on NFL Daily to crank through this 491 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: week for Slate. It's it's kind of like a show 492 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: me week for a couple of teams. 493 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm just confused about. Get to that in a bit. 494 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily. Excited to talk about the second 495 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Monday night game. We got Gino in primetime. 496 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: Yes, it's primetime Gino and Geno Smith and the Seattle 497 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: Seahawks visiting the Detroit Lions, who are a four point 498 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: favorite at home. The over under is forty six and 499 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: a half. And if you go all the way back 500 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: to twenty two and me two, every single time these 501 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: two teams have played, that would not even be close 502 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: to enough. It was fifty one to twenty nine, and 503 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 4: twenty it was forty five to forty eight in the 504 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 4: second time they played, and then last year it was 505 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: thirty seven to thirty one in overtime. Craig, whenever you 506 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: get Gino and Jared Golf linked up, it's gonna be points. 507 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: It's been the games that I've enjoyed Among the games, 508 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed Gena the most watching him carve up this 509 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: Lions defense. But it's a better Lions defense this year. 510 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: They're great stopping the run, and so I don't think 511 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna even try that hard to run because 512 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: they have really struggled to open up holes. And against 513 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Miami last week, they didn't look right for most of 514 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: the game trying to run the ball, And so I 515 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: think they look at this man coverage that Detroit likes 516 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: to play and they say, bet, you know, like all right, 517 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Carlton Davis, like go try, Terry and Arnold go try 518 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: like we got Jackson Smith and jig. But we got 519 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: dk Metcalff running choice routes like fifty yards down the field. 520 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Whoever heard such a thing, And you got Tyler Lockett, 521 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: And that's just the way they're going to have to win. 522 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: I know the line isn't playing that well, but I 523 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: think Geno and his receivers can make up for it. 524 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, look the four points here. 525 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: I think that's that's probably about right, because I think 526 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 5: that Detroit has the ability to mix it up right here, 527 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: right because you because again one thing, the one thing 528 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: that that that Seattle has to say, you got so 529 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: much speed in the secondary, right, so they can run, 530 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 5: you know, with some of Detroit's wide receivers. So I 531 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: think you're gonna see a lot of run game. Dave Montgomery, 532 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: Jamiir Gibbs are gonna mix it up, and then they're 533 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: gonna take some shot plays they've got. You can't play 534 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: all the undernease stuff with Jered Goff all the time. 535 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: So I like Detroit in this one at home. This 536 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: is gonna be another shootout. I'm patrick one hundred percent 537 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: with you that that forty six point five, Yeah, that's 538 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 5: that's not gonna be up. 539 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: This is gonna be another offensive dandy. 540 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, forty six point five is in severe danger. I 541 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 4: do think in terms of the historical matchup, we're not 542 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: gonna get the numbers that we have seen in the 543 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: past because I believe both of these defenses, despite the 544 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: injuries that Seattle has dealt with, are better, uh, And 545 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 4: things are gonna get a little bit better for both defenses. 546 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: But it's still gonna It's still gonna be a lot 547 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: of points. 548 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: We're still gonna be see points uh in this game, 549 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: especially considering the style and the matchup where I love 550 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: Tareik Woolland, but particularly with i'man Ross, Saint Brown and Jamo. 551 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: It seems like if you're gonna put high weight speed 552 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: guys out there to deal with Treik Woolland, you would 553 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 4: have those guys to be able. 554 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: To see Jamo Tarik Willand would be like quite a. 555 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 5: That's a lot of talented, it's a lot of speed. Yeah, 556 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: that's for you're gonna I think. And to that point, 557 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see something where the lines. You're 558 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: gonna try to get Weatherspoon on Saint Brown, even though 559 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: they don't do a ton of man, but they're gonna 560 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 5: try and do things because Saint Brown is more the 561 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: intermediate guy to to keep things underneath. 562 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 563 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 5: These offensive coordinators are gonna be scheming some stuff up. 564 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 5: I think in the short to intermediate pass game with 565 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: the occasional shot played, I don't think there's gonna be 566 00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: a ton of them. 567 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: And so something that has kind of bolstered the way 568 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: we feel about the Lions defense is they're not necessarily 569 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: getting that many pressures, but they are converting those pressures 570 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: into sex and so there's something where you look at 571 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: the you look at the sack numbers, it's like, oh, yeah, 572 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: Ayden Hutchson had those five, Like the Lions are putting 573 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: a lot of guys on the dirt, But how often 574 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: are they getting consistent pressure, which is something because you know, 575 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: take a side, Yeah, but if you're not getting consistent pressure, 576 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna get those bombs like we saw last week. 577 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: This is a bad Seattle offensive line. Like Charles Cross 578 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: is playing great at left tackle. The people that are 579 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: smarter than me are saying this guy could be an 580 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: All Pro now that that's how well he's playing. But 581 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: on the interior right like the rest of the group's 582 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: not good. But this line, I actually don't know. Yeah, 583 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you that I don't know if it's going 584 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: to be a shootout, because, first of all, this is 585 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: what I was talking about before went to break, like, 586 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: this is a test for Seattle's defense. On paper, this 587 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: has been the best defense in the league, just about 588 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: them and the Vikings. But they've played you know, bo Nicks, right, 589 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: they played Jacoby Brissett, and they played Skylar Tom and 590 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle, and that's not their fault. They did what 591 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: great defenses should do. They dominated for the most part. 592 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: But this is a much bigger test. The Detroit running 593 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: game will test you the passes over the middle. In 594 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: terms of the Seattle linebackers, they can test you there. 595 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: But it's also to me a test a little bit 596 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: of for this Lions offense. I've been banging this this 597 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: drum the last few weeks, just like they're running the 598 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: ball great and that they have a great offensive line, 599 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: and so that what a foundation to start with. But 600 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: they're not quite where they've been the last couple of years. 601 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: They are thirteenth overall in DVOA efficiency as an offense, 602 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: twentieth in passing. You saw it in the game last 603 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: week with the Cardinals, they just got they didn't score 604 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: in the second half. That was a weird game where 605 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: every time they got the ball, you think, okay, they'll 606 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: put the game away here. It just never happened, like 607 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: they couldn't they couldn't score now, and I know they 608 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: had a good first half, so it's not like they're terrible, 609 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: but that would never happen last year. So it's kind 610 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: of a show me something for both these you and 611 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: it's Seattle defense, Lions offense very intriguing. 612 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: And this is where okay, now we have two years 613 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 5: of tape on Ben Johnson, right, that's where I think, Okay, 614 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: if they come out in three tight this is. 615 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: What they like to do. 616 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 5: Before they could trick you with some of those formations 617 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 5: where they would spread it out on third nine and 618 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: then run it. Right now, teams are like, okay, we've 619 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: got personnel now to match up a little bit more 620 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 5: of what they like to do offensively. So it could 621 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 5: be that it could be just they just haven't hit 622 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: their groove. This is just gonna be I'm you guys 623 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 5: are both saying those points. I think this is gonna 624 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: be another burner g. 625 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: You know, in prime time. 626 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: Remember that Cowboys gave me out last year. He has 627 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: been on fire. Just one small note if you're a 628 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks fan, Rodrigo, he's a starter now. 629 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: Baby. 630 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Derek Barnes is hurt, he's out for a little while. 631 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Malcolm Rodriguez is playing every down. 632 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: There it does there he is Rodrigo. 633 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: Last time Marke McDonald saw Jared Goff, it was thirty 634 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: eight to six, by the way, and they Ravens blow 635 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: out of the Detroit Lions. 636 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: Oh good cost here. 637 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that that game, than any game, might have 638 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: got him that job. 639 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: It might have got him a job. 640 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: Let's go to our next game. 641 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: It is the defeated as of thus far in the season, 642 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals, who are a three and a half point 643 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: favorite Greg Rosenthal at Andy Dalton's Carolina Panthers the over 644 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty seven. And I have the Panthers 645 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: not favorite it in the revenge game. 646 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Well no, and I've actually I noticed that that number 647 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: is going down during the week, so people are in 648 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: on the Panthers. I don't know about that. Because this 649 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Bengals offense looks good. Can they really be this bad defensively? 650 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: Then? 651 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Again, it is Dalton, and there is something about him 652 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: playing the Bengals in him basically digging dirt on their 653 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: entire season that is delicious. I'm excited for this game 654 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: just because if Dalton did that, and I'm like, oh, 655 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Dalton must have played the Bengals before and from our 656 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: research department. Yeah, this is actually the fourth team that 657 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: he's played against the Bengals with. 658 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? 659 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: I think every team, I think every. 660 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: Tea's two and one, by the way, and I think last. 661 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: Week and every team he previously played for lost except 662 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 5: for the Panthers. 663 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: No, this is this is the week the Bengals get right. Guys. 664 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: Remember Adam Feeling is now down. One of the Red 665 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: Rifles targets favorite target is not playing in this game. Uh, 666 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow on this offense, look fine, they look find 667 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: me the run game, everything looked fine. 668 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: It's the defense. 669 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 5: I was stunned at how easily that lou Anarumo's defense, 670 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 5: which is so good at making halftime with justice, was manipulated. 671 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: Cam Taylor britt right there. They're gonna keep his butt 672 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: quiet this week. He got roasted twice after popping off, 673 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: so you know, Trent Scott though, keep an eye on him. 674 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: Well whoever's Washington this week? Uh, but I their their 675 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: defense seems undisciplined. I'm surprised. We know they still have 676 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 5: some issues. They have to work out the secondary, but 677 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 5: up front, yeah. 678 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: They don't have much. It's Trey Hendrickson and that's it. 679 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard is Sam Hubbard's. 680 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Not playing well and they delivered their short on defensive tackles. 681 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: It's a bad Their run defense looks lost, So this 682 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: could be a Chub of Hubbard game. 683 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: It's one of those scary moments where you laud the 684 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: veteran defense and how well they've played, and now you're 685 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: watching through the first three weeks in the season. Did 686 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: everybody get old all at the same time. That's the 687 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: dangerous territory that we're in, considering the way that they 688 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 4: looked on Monday night. But I'm there's nothing wrong. I 689 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: know there's been some ludicrous conversation about Joe Burrow in 690 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: the offense. Come on, there's nothing more that they could 691 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: have done other than Evan McPherson making a field goal. 692 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: There's really a little better in the red zone. Maybe 693 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: call some more runs in the reds or have more 694 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: effective runs in the red zone. The ones they caused 695 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: weren't working, but they had to be perfect, yeah, point. 696 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: They had to be absolutely perfect. And I think t 697 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: Higgins is going to get better. It was clearly some rust. 698 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: He comes up short on I think two plays right 699 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: within the the end zone. And so yeah, Jamar Chase 700 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: is back. Everybody's gonna get healthy taking deep shots against 701 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders. And I don't think that this one 702 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: week boost for the Carolina Panthers, Like we're to the 703 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: point now where we're talking about Adam Thelen's injury, Like 704 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: that's how much better things are, because we would have 705 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: previously just said, hey, it's the Carolina Panthers, Like well 706 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: he's saying it. 707 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you think they're gonna win the Panthers, No, no, no, 708 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean yeah. Theeling, by the way, is uninjured reserve 709 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna have because of a hamstring injury. And then 710 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Trent Brown, we haven't mentioned it on NFL Daily, is 711 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: out for the season, very unfortunate, a torn patel attendant. 712 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: So they'll have their first round pick, Amarius Mims takeover 713 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: at right tackle, which is a good position to be 714 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: in to have a first round pick there, but he struggled, yes, 715 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: in the brief time he was out there. 716 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: So that's that's something to watch. 717 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons that you sometimes the 718 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: losing teams are more intriguing for some of these games 719 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: because if we get to the Witching Hour and Scott 720 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Hansen's voice is rising on Sunday and he's talking about 721 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: the Red Rifles got the ball with the chance to 722 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: go win the game, to put the Panthers in a 723 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: tie for first in the NFC South and basically end 724 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals season. Those are some September stakes there, Patrick 725 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: like that, that's some real stuff and. 726 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: We could get there. 727 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: And the only thing really keeping that from happening, what 728 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: would be this Carolina Panthers see for them where it's 729 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: it's it's been a struggle and we we still got 730 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: to figure out how much of that because it takes 731 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: it takes an entire unit to be as bad as 732 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: the Las Vegas Raiders were. I guess the Panthers last week. 733 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: So was that a zero? Was that the defense was 734 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: that the Raiders? This is something for us to figure out, 735 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: but it will be the revenge opportunity. I will be very, 736 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: very exciting, not as exciting as things will be for 737 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: the scoreboard operator at State Farms State where the over 738 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: under is fifty and a half points. 739 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that's enough. 740 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: Washington Commander's coming off of the best rookie performance that 741 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: I've seen. My god, I think on Monday Night football 742 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: for Jade Daniels against the Arizona Cardinals, who are putting 743 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: all kinds of points on the board. Steve, the Commander's 744 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: defense can't stop anybody points points, points, points points. 745 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: It's it's funny, you know. I talked to someone with 746 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: the commanders this week and it was like, yeah, so 747 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 5: our DBS man, you know, And and it's true. I mean, 748 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 5: you had you had the rookie Mike Saint Russell, who's 749 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 5: been a slot corners whole off outside because they're just 750 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 5: trying to figure he got beat on a deep play, 751 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: really good player, but he's small, and you know, for him, 752 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 5: I just don't know. Marvin Harrison, man, he might really 753 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 5: go extra. 754 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: Ham okay, and he's been a little inefficient. 755 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: Now you're talking a guy from Washington and he's complaining 756 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: about the DBS. Aren't they sky high that they found 757 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. 758 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, it's one of these 759 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 5: things like, Okay, we won the ball game, but when 760 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 5: we look at the big picture, he's not gonna deal 761 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 5: like that every week. Like at some point the defense 762 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 5: is going to have to bail out. And you know, 763 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 5: their defense are just just trying to find their way. 764 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 5: They're trying to find some groupings. 765 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: And things like this. 766 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 5: But let's you know what we talk about Jayden Daniels. 767 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 5: I mean, Patrick, do you see him not granted he 768 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 5: might not be able to throw for a game like this, 769 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: but I don't see him slowing down. 770 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: This is that's a type of performance. 771 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 5: I think he's going to continue in this offense, will 772 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 5: continue to build on especially since Cliff Kingsbury is going 773 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: back to Arizona. Oh yeah, because Cliff was in his bag. 774 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 5: I have not seen him call a game as aggressively. 775 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what he called the throw a generational throw 776 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: into a tight window like that a great receiver, it's 777 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: going to catch play. 778 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 2: Let's not get too much credit. 779 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: Well also in taking the way credit for Cliff on 780 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: that play, it was Terry McLaurin that called that play. 781 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 4: After the game, Terry said he went over to Cliff 782 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 4: and asked for the. 783 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: Double move over at least for a couple I'm not I. 784 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: Mean all due respect because during the game, I'm like, hey, 785 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: all do apologies to Cliff Kingsbury. I wasn't familiar with 786 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 4: your game. I don't know how many that was Cliff 787 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: and how much of that was his players with suggestions. 788 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: But we just haven't seen Terry McLaurin over on that 789 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: right side a whole bunch. Now, what a time to 790 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 4: come up with a debut for it. And really, Jane 791 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: only missed two passes in the game. The other one 792 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 4: was a wide open shot to Terry that he would 793 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 4: have made in his sleep. I don't know what happened 794 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 4: is one of those things. Because he completed the ninety 795 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 4: one percent of his passes, everybody's oh, he can't throw. 796 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 4: He didn't miss pass the rest of the game after that, 797 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: But there's who knows what can happen if the if 798 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: the airs on the Cardinals cannot get pressure in and around 799 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: Jane and Daniels like the Cincinnati Bengals did, I'm gonna 800 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 4: then they're gonna score it for time again. 801 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: Right, it's been two weeks. I mean the stats are crazy. 802 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: The Commanders are first in the league in plays and 803 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: yards per drive on offense, and they're dead last in 804 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: the league and plays in yards for I have on defense, 805 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: So like they are a walking forty burger. And I 806 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: did want to throw something by you when it comes 807 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: to Jane Daniels, because I do think this can continue. 808 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: Not at that level, but I think he's going to 809 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: be really efficient and smart. How they use him in 810 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: the running game and when he scrambles it's so effective, 811 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: and that he'll have enough big shots, big plays to 812 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: compliment all the dinking and dunking that they like to do. 813 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Jayden Daniels if you're watching 814 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: on YouTube the All twenty two version, the end zone 815 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: angle and the shot that he took on that throw 816 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: to Terry McLaurin to win the game. I propose to 817 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: you guys, last week, in terms of throw of the year, 818 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: a candidate to possibly pass Anthony Richardson that was Kyler Murray. 819 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: We stuck with Richardson. 820 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: Now I'm personally willing to consider the game situation and 821 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: the moment and the throw and the play that that 822 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: essential game winner from Jaden Daniels before taking the hit 823 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: knowing that the blitz is coming. Is now the throw 824 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: of the year. What are you guys think I'm gonna 825 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: throw it to the crew. So it's either this or 826 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: it's Anthony Richardson the bomb from week one that would 827 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: have the belt. 828 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 5: Currently, Yeah, Richard's Richard's got the spectacular play. But I 829 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 5: mean this was, like you said, the moment, the circumstances, 830 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 5: this this, this broke the back and look at the 831 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 5: corner right, he sees Hilt, he knows Hilton's count blam, 832 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 5: let's it rip. 833 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we know McLaurin may have called the play, 834 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: but you. 835 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 5: Got the sideline as a defender and the corner trail 836 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 5: on him and he just dropped it right in the bucket. 837 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the security guy in the blue shirt standing 838 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 4: like six feet away from Terry McLaurin. If you put 839 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: me right there and gave him the football, I could 840 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: not have thrown the ball where Jayden Daniels did getting smashed. 841 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 4: I felt like the only time he was hit as 842 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 4: he threw the entire game. I will say that Jaden 843 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 4: Daniels had the better play, uh, the the decision, the circumstances, 844 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: but in terms of throwing the football. It's it's gonna 845 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 4: be tough for me to say if we're purely talking 846 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: about interpretation. 847 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: So either way, So yes, you're going Richardson. I think 848 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: you're the deciding vote here, Steve, I don't even know. 849 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 5: Okay, my thing is the spectacular goes to Richardson. I 850 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 5: mean talk about the throw of the year. 851 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: He retains about he retains THEO. By the way, the 852 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense not something we talk about a lot. They've 853 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: been okay this year. Yeah, I mentioned the Lions. 854 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 3: Stop it. 855 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna be a little overmatch. 856 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: I know Kyler had a bad game last week. I 857 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: expect their offense to bounce back. If their defense can 858 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: be okay, they can be in the mix for a while. 859 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: I think they could bounce back here. 860 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: I like them. 861 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: I like them to win this game. If I if 862 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: I had to choose one, O the Cliff cliff Is 863 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans. Though Cliff is good in September, Cliff does 864 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: create a running game like that's the one thing that 865 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: you can say he has a running game that travels. 866 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: This is a really fun game. 867 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 6: Well, he gets his quarterbacks hit like that. Ain't the 868 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 6: last time, Jane's gonna take a shot and I don't 869 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 6: want to hear revenge game. He's his contract is only 870 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 6: in year two. The contract that he got from the 871 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 6: Cardinals is only entering year two, like it didn't start 872 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 6: until after they fired him, or maybe it's year three now, 873 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 6: but the contract extension they gave him did not start 874 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 6: until after they fired a year after they fired him, 875 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 6: So he's still making money from that. 876 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: He's coaching. He's coaching for free. No offset the revenge game. 877 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: There is Kyler Murray against the true of Kingsbury. Good 878 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 4: go all right, So here's what. 879 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: Tom it is. Guys. 880 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: It's time for the Sneaky good Game of the Week, 881 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 4: presented by Draft kings Sportsbook. A two and a half 882 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 4: point home favorite Chicago Bears going up against the Los 883 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 4: Angeles Rams. 884 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: The over under Steve is forty one. 885 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: That the Rams or Matthew Stafford too too at well 886 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 4: and some duct tape and band aids salvage a win 887 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 4: in so far last week, but they're not favorites against 888 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: since this good Bears defense. 889 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 3: That's what it is. It's because the Bears defense. 890 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 5: You know, you see some of the injuries that the 891 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 5: Rams have on the offensive line. The fact that the 892 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 5: Bears do have a good secondary and the Rams are 893 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 5: just spreading it to whomever. I mean, Afford was unbelievable 894 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 5: in the second half of that game. And I guess 895 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 5: maybe they're looking at the Rams defense saying that they 896 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 5: can't get pressure on Caleb. All I saw every play 897 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 5: when Rock Perdy, who had a good game, had the ball, 898 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 5: was Jared Verse walking the left tackle back into the Latin. 899 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 3: Now, this is where the Rams won the game. 900 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 5: Special team SA if you're Smith fam you you know 901 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 5: they had the fake punt. They had very good special 902 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 5: teams play and then you know Stafford again they got 903 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 5: the benefit of this call here sets up the field goal. 904 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 5: But I guess when you look at the points as 905 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 5: Chicago's the favorite, you're just saying they still aren't going 906 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 5: to have problems getting into the end zone against this defense. 907 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 5: But I don't know, man, I think when I see 908 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 5: Jared Vers and Braden Fisk, they're going to be able 909 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: to put pressure on Caleb. 910 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I think that 911 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: is a silver lining for this Rams season so far, 912 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: that I do think they hit on those first Yes, 913 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: that they're both going to be really good players and 914 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: how good we'll find out they're already going to be 915 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: plus players and they could be special. I think Caleb 916 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: just has to cut out the negative plays. A lot 917 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: of miscommunications again where him and the receivers not on 918 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: the same page, turnovers, turnover where he plays, sacks, all 919 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 1: that stuff. But the big plays were back last week. 920 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: He did make some really impressive throws in this Rams 921 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: defense has struggled now they needed a matchup like this again. 922 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: I keep talking about week four. Sometimes what you think 923 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: about a team has a lot to do with the schedule. 924 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: The Rams defense has played the Lions, Cardinals forty nine 925 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: ers offenses back to back to back, and they've been 926 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: totally overmatched, especially in the secondary. So Keenan Allen is 927 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: expected to return in this game. He was limited at 928 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, but it's trending positive. That's a big 929 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: mismatch against the Rams secondary. But the Rams might be saying, hey, 930 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: here's an offense we can actually maybe handle for ones. 931 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: Keep it close, and I tend to trust when push 932 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: comes to shove. I think quarterbacks, and I think coaching staffs, 933 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: I think organizations, and the Rams have it all over 934 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: the Bears in those categories. 935 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially considering the just how difficult things have been 936 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 4: on offense, especially protecting Caleb Williams early on this season 937 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 4: the benefit of the for the Chicago Bears, there's been 938 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 4: four different players that have got at least twenty different 939 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 4: pass blocking snaps for the Rams at the left tacklefish 940 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: this season, it's kind of been a turnstile over there. 941 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: Although now you know Alec Jackson who came off suspension, 942 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: but he struggled last week. 943 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: He might not be a world beater either. He struggled. 944 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: So even the guys they have out there that they 945 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: know haven Stein is at right tackle like they had 946 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: benched him the other guys, you know, we'll see. 947 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 5: Well and you see that that the nine had flipped 948 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 5: Bosh over to the right side too, So Alerc Jackson 949 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 5: is going up against Bosha. Let me ask you this though, 950 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 5: when it comes to the Bears, right, I think a 951 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 5: lot of us we're thinking, if they've got the number 952 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 5: one pick and they're taking Caleb Williams, why are they 953 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 5: hanging on to Maddyberfluss and was supposed to be the 954 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 5: last year of his deal, Because if this doesn't work out, 955 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: now Caleb's in that situation. 956 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: Like Trevor was right, we'll all daftin fields like. 957 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 5: Justin fields where you're flipping coaches, And do you think 958 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 5: that conversation if they lose or if this offense continues 959 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 5: to look scattered when you have Caleb throwing at fifty 960 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 5: two times and after the game he's like, I threw 961 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 5: it fifty two times, do you think this is something 962 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 5: that once again is going to put wash Rent Repete 963 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 5: on the Bears organization. 964 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's it's unfortunate, and that was the risk. 965 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 1: I think once once the ball started rolling downhill last 966 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: year and they kept winning at the end of the year, 967 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: it just was taken as a FATA complay that they're 968 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: going to keep them because they've finished the season hot. 969 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes it doesn't continue that way. It's a long 970 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: way to go, but they need to defense has been fine, 971 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: it has his side of the ball hasn't been the problem. 972 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: But they got to fix the offense. They got to 973 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: get DeAndre Swift going. They got to get a running 974 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: game to help Caleb Williams out. DeAndre Swift is averaging 975 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: under two yards per carry him and that that's hard 976 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: to believe. 977 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 5: Think about this game. Bearish play caller was whose right 978 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 5: hand man two years ago. 979 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 7: Good callan Shane Waldron in some heat because there was 980 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 7: a question to Matt eueber Flews because they have Taekwon 981 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 7: Lewis down there in a blocking situation with the defensive end, 982 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 7: got mauled and then they ran that speed option the 983 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 7: next play, which is one of the worst play that 984 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 7: we've seen all week. 985 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: The coach is answering questions about the play caller. They're 986 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 4: not able to score points. I got the number one 987 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 4: overall pick. We're in dangers over Shane. 988 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: Shane is missing life with Gino Smith. He didn't know 989 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: how good he had it. And it's not a revenge 990 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: game for him though Sean McVay got helped to get 991 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: him a job just by association. 992 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 5: You know. 993 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and uh a 994 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 2: little over halfway through here, we got. 995 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: Some of the best games of the week in our 996 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: next block, including maybe my favorite. 997 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: Game of the year so far, Ravens and Bills. 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The crown is yours back. 1003 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 3: On NFL Daily. 1004 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's out of jail no longer asked to commentate 1005 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboy with slowouts, although they made it interesting. 1006 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: I was actually happy for Tom that he had a 1007 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: fun and fourth quarter at the end. 1008 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: But no, he's heading to Tampa. 1009 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1010 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 4: The broadcast wilded into existence when they showed a fan 1011 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 4: that was obviously a plant wearing a twenty eight to 1012 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 4: three T shirt at the Cowboys Ravens game. 1013 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: Wait, really, I missed that. 1014 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 4: It was coming back from breaking there's this guy in 1015 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: a twenty eight three T shirt. It's like, all right, 1016 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 4: who'd y'all put that shirt on? I'm calling I'm throwing 1017 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 4: a flag on that. But yeah, Tom Brady will be 1018 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 4: in the stands and a lot of us be watching 1019 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 4: as the Philadelphia Eagles are two and a half point 1020 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: favorites at the Tampa Bay Bunkers, who just lost to 1021 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 4: the Broncos. These two teams have playoff history. Jalen hurts 1022 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: two to one against the Buccaneers in his career, I 1023 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 4: mean one and two against the Buccaneers in his career 1024 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. 1025 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: But this is the regular season. Greg, They've got a 1026 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: whole lot of injuries. 1027 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 4: Don't know if it's aj Brown advante Smith, it may 1028 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 4: just be Saquon and Jalen Hurts. 1029 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 3: Not enough. 1030 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: Maybe because this Bucks defense isn't what they've been in 1031 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: previous years. You think Todd Bowles defense, you think, oh, well, 1032 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: there's some of the best run defenses of all time. Literally, 1033 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: yeah and great every year. This year they really struggle 1034 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: on the ground. Part of that is Vidavea has been 1035 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: banged up, was back at practice on Wednesday. They also 1036 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: get Luke Getiki, their right tackle, back at practice on Wednesday, 1037 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: which are really positive because if you watched that Bucks 1038 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: game last week, they couldn't stop the run consistently enough 1039 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,439 Speaker 1: and they really couldn't protect Baker Mayfield, so that would 1040 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: be big for them. Yeah, this is another like what's 1041 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: real about this team? Eagles get pushed around for two weeks, 1042 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: then suddenly they show up in New Orleans and they're 1043 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: wrecking shop against this great running game like set in 1044 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: the edge, playing really fierce, and then what's real about Baker? 1045 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: Because you know not to yeah, celebrate here, Patrick, but 1046 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: you're talking MVP. Last week for Baker, I'm like, let's 1047 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: calm down, and he played one of his worst games 1048 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: as a buccaneer. I thought he kind of was the 1049 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: problem last week for the Bucks. It was a lot 1050 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: of old Baker stuff of leaving the pocket early, just 1051 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: missing some throws, some crazy decisions, and then it kind 1052 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: of collapsed on him in the second half. But the 1053 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: first half it was actually I think a lot of 1054 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: it was on Baker. I was surprised to see that 1055 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: because he had been really consistent throughout the course of 1056 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: the end of last season and certainly to start this year. 1057 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we see the. 1058 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 5: Eagles, you know, their two and a half point favorites. 1059 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 5: I like the number. I like the Bucks to beat 1060 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 5: the number. I just think that, you know, Tampa, if 1061 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 5: they get Vita Via back right, it's going to help 1062 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 5: out in the run defense. But you know, you look 1063 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 5: at the Bucks secondary. I don't know if Winfield's going 1064 00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 5: to be back yet. 1065 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: He is only running like on the side at practice, 1066 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: so it sounds like he's at least a week away. 1067 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just you know, the the Eagles offensive line 1068 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 5: is good, They're gonna have to run it. I mean, 1069 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 5: they had they they looked very good defensively against the Saints. Right, 1070 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,479 Speaker 5: they're able to stop that outside zone and Saints didn't 1071 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 5: have a left hand so to speak of where they 1072 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 5: could go, but they didn't score. I mean, they had 1073 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 5: fifteen points right against a pretty good defense. So I 1074 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 5: just think I think the Bucks at home in this one, 1075 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 5: I Philadelphia just doesn't seem like the type of team 1076 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 5: to me that's gonna also and rip off three or 1077 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 5: fourth to three games. 1078 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: Yet. 1079 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that the Bucks hurts matchups in the past. Patrick, 1080 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: which I think is for Eagles fans, is like a 1081 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: big part of this game that he's had the two 1082 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: most embarrassing moments of his career against Todd Bowles's defense. 1083 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: So do you think this is a different Hurts. Maybe 1084 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: they've been good against the Blitz. 1085 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they've been much better against the Blitz. And 1086 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: we saw last year they had no answers. They had 1087 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 4: absolutely no answers against the defense against the Blitz. And 1088 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 4: now Kellen Moore comes in. There are some questions about 1089 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 4: like Nick Sirianni saying that he's gonna step in and 1090 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 4: call some plays in some situations that eyes kind of 1091 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 4: popped out reading that this week. 1092 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: Well, well you talked about the fourth he was talking 1093 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: about that fourth down decision. I wonder if he was 1094 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: just like, was he just taking the bullet for Kellen 1095 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: Moore and trying to be like a good Hey, there's 1096 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: something maybe I don't know that'd be a cool guy move. 1097 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 4: Like shout out to Nick Sirianni. If that's you know, 1098 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 4: we'd have to wait for a book after his career 1099 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 4: or something, you know, if things go the other way. 1100 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 4: But it's gonna a lot, it's gonna depend on the statuses. 1101 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: Like A. J. 1102 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 4: Brown and Devonte Smith or so much of this passing game, 1103 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 4: they're both there. 1104 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 3: I'm picking the Eagles regardless. 1105 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: So they were both out of practice. That generally a 1106 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: guy coming off a concussion who misses practice entirely on Wednesday, 1107 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: that that's not a good sign for them, and you 1108 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: just you don't know for sure, but both him and 1109 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson. And Johnson, you know, I'm a little worried 1110 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 1: about longer term because of some history that he's had 1111 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: with concussions and saying how it's really affected him in 1112 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: his mental health. So those are two situations. They were 1113 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: both out of practice. 1114 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 3: A J. 1115 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 2: Brown was also out of practice. I think this was kind. 1116 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: Of the week where maybe he could come back and 1117 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 1: maybe not if it was it was next week. 1118 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean again, that's a lot of talent. That's 1119 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot of talent, you know. 1120 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 5: And again with concussion protocols, just you see different guys 1121 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 5: handle different ways. Some guys maybe out on Wednesday, Thursday, 1122 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 5: they're back Friday, they pass all the protocols and they 1123 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 5: have a full practice. 1124 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: Good gotcha. So that's just something you know, you really 1125 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 3: have to keep an eye on. 1126 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Davante played every single snap, which is not out 1127 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 4: of the question before he got hurt in Week three. 1128 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 4: But in the game against the Science, he's always out 1129 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 4: on the field. He is always a big part of 1130 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 4: that passing game. 1131 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: But I do want to make one note here about 1132 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: the Bucks. 1133 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: I just want to give some pop to Zion McCollum 1134 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: and Tyke Smith. I feel they're not getting mentioned on 1135 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Zion McCollum playing his ass off in 1136 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 1: the secondary, Todd Bowles can coach him up, and Tikey Smith, 1137 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: who's like I think he's a rookie nickel. He's playing 1138 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: pretty well too. So they got some young players to 1139 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. 1140 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 4: Well, Collum has more passes defended than he does completions. 1141 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: Whoa right now he's at that's a pop? That's a pop? 1142 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 4: Or Zion McCollums Z Why oh, by the way, good 1143 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 4: shot by Greg Rosen. 1144 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, big time. 1145 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 4: What about a big matchup in the NFC North at 1146 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 4: lambeau Field where the Packers, the loveless question mark Green 1147 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 4: Bay Packers we'll find out are two and a half 1148 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 4: point favorites against Sam Darnold. Get those bees buzzing in 1149 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 4: my ear and the Minnesota Vikings on over under of 1150 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 4: forty three point five. 1151 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: There they go, Greg the high They're they're attacking me, 1152 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: They're coming at me. This is another test room. But 1153 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: he's had tests and they passed them all. I mean, 1154 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: the Packers defense is playing better lately. Their defensive line 1155 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: now is against the Colts and and the Titans, but 1156 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: they've been getting after kind of a more than the 1157 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 1: sum of their parts type of group where Rashaun Gary 1158 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: is great, Preston Smith is solid, but just they're getting 1159 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: production from a lot of different guys and so that'll 1160 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: be a challenge for them. 1161 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 2: We'll see JJ though he's just crazy man. 1162 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: And he's gonna go against JayR Alexander this week, who's 1163 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: kind of back to being the old Gyr examder having 1164 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: a good year. He beats, he gets, he doesn't just 1165 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: beat double teams like he gets open to the point 1166 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: where like Sam Donald's like, oh he's open even though 1167 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 1: there's a double team. 1168 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: I'll throw it to him. 1169 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. It's crazy, he's he is so elite. 1170 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 5: He is, he is so really, I think it's interesting. 1171 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: Is this a third consecutive game where Brian Flora is 1172 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 5: a Vikings defensive coordinator, is coaching against either a Shanahan 1173 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 5: or a McVeigh disciple. Right, so they've got some of 1174 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,959 Speaker 5: the staples defensively against the scheme on what works now 1175 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 5: Malik Willis and Jordan Love. That's very different, right, Yes, 1176 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 5: he hadn't coach. He gets a running quarterback, right, so 1177 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 5: that's something. But I even Paige could be back an 1178 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 5: inside linebacker for the Vikings this week. That could be 1179 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,760 Speaker 5: getting healthier. Looking at somebody. I just think the Vikings defense, 1180 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 5: I mean what they did. I mean to go out 1181 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 5: there and kick Houston's ass the way it did with 1182 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 5: Jonathan Grenard and Andrew van Ginkel. How great of assignings 1183 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 5: that Flores had him in Miami gets him up to 1184 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 5: Minnesota has already got three sacks. A ton of pressures 1185 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 5: sets the edge, which is key. 1186 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 3: In the scheme. I don't know. 1187 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 5: This is where I think of Malik Willis actually gives 1188 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 5: Green Bay an edge. 1189 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 3: Patrick. I'm one hundred percent with you, Steve. 1190 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: I can't imagine the situation where you have a guy 1191 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 4: with an MCL spring that has to get on an 1192 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 4: international flight and come back. We saw him kind of 1193 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 4: hobble out in practice and throw a few passes last week. 1194 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 4: And now we're playing a defense that's getting pressure on 1195 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 4: thirty five percent of dropbacks and is converting eleven percent 1196 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 4: of those to sex right their top three in that 1197 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 4: particular step. Pressures coming from every which way, you're having 1198 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 4: to keep your head on the swivel constantly. Why am 1199 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 4: I gonna send my two hundred million dollar quarterback fresh 1200 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 4: off like he's explaining that he's getting better. I don't 1201 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 4: want to hear that you're getting better. Like we have 1202 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 4: a season to think about here. Why not mix things up? 1203 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 4: Because as you know, you guys have mentioned, this offense 1204 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 4: has proliferated its way literally from sea to shining Sea 1205 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Brian Flores has it, he's got it, 1206 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 4: he's got the players. Why not do something different. He 1207 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 4: was commenting about the way that Matt Lafleur has gone 1208 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 4: from West coast to run in this countertrait power like 1209 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 4: the bib of offense, like flora' Floraes wants Jordan Love 1210 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 4: to play this game like the do the right thing. 1211 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bold statement. So you think they'd have 1212 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: a better chance to win with with Willis? 1213 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 3: Then then would Jordan Love limping around? 1214 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know if he's gonna leave a limping out. 1215 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: So he was at practice on Wednesday. He did more 1216 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: and more practice last week. He said he was very 1217 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: close to playing. Yeah, last week, which would and to 1218 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: make you think he's playing this week. They also had 1219 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 1: him speak to the media. He was in good spirits, 1220 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: usually a sign that he's playing. And Patrick, you think, 1221 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: you think they should caution here and think about the 1222 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: long term and just benjam in a week even if 1223 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 1: he seems ready to go. 1224 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've seen the way that this team can play, 1225 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 4: and I think with Jordan Love that there's a chance 1226 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 4: that the Green Bay Packers can win the Super Bowl. 1227 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to risk him if it's close. If 1228 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 4: he's saying he was close last week, that they don't 1229 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 4: have a buye until week ten. Right, there's just so 1230 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 4: many things that could go wrong here. They're hot right now, 1231 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 4: you play the hot hand. I'm not saying that Malik 1232 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 4: Willis is a better quarterback than Jordan Love. I just 1233 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 4: think if it's if he's not one hundred percent, I 1234 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 4: don't want him play against this defense. 1235 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, one way to maybe beat that those blitzes 1236 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: just keep handing the ball off and do some design 1237 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: runs with Malik Willis, who was very I mean, he 1238 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: ran so well last week you forget of it just 1239 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: reminded me of what you see at Liberty and you 1240 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: just forget what a crazy talented runner he is. Just 1241 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: a natural runner he is. And then how do you 1242 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: beat the blitz I mean we're asking a lot here. 1243 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: He hit some big plays over the top. I mean, 1244 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: that's what Jordan Loved to him, did to him last year. 1245 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 3: Maybe that's in they both throw the deep ball. 1246 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 5: I got something for you, Okay, what about you have 1247 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 5: Malik Willis package? Yeah, at all I'm not saying platoon 1248 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 5: these guys, but all of a sudden, okay, wait, Jordan 1249 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 5: Love's going out to wide receiver Malik Willis is in here. 1250 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 3: Okay, what are we looking at? 1251 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 5: You know they're I'm not big on doing something like 1252 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 5: that before a game like this early in the season. 1253 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 3: Put it on film. It's tough. 1254 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: I do think you can maybe neutralize a little bit 1255 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: of Flores's craziness by rolling with what's been the number 1256 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: one ground game in the NFL this season is the 1257 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. I mean Emmanuel Wilson. They found another one. 1258 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: He really looks like a dog like this, Aaron Jones, 1259 00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: It's not a revenge game. 1260 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 1261 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: Read his article on the Players Tribune. It's really great. 1262 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: He's one of my all time favorite players that we've covered. 1263 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: We had him on the Round the NFL podcast previously. 1264 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,479 Speaker 1: I just love it, Like Wes was such a huge 1265 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: fan of just how he is as a player. He 1266 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: seems like a better person. So I'm sure he's gonna 1267 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of love from the Packers. Faithful and 1268 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: it's worked out for both sides. The Packers got the 1269 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: number one running game and the Vikings got one. Of 1270 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league. 1271 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great matchup, looking forward to it, and 1272 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 4: everybody's looking forward to our next game. 1273 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 3: It's time for the Game of the Week presented by 1274 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 3: Draft Games. 1275 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bill's going at the Baltimore Ravens, who are 1276 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 4: two and a half point favorite, despite almost being h 1277 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 4: and three and having one of the worst losses late 1278 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 4: collapses in recent regular season history other than theirs I 1279 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: guesst the Miami Dolphins a few years ago forty six 1280 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 4: and a half points. It's gonna be the Sunday night 1281 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 4: game with to Rico, Chris Collinsworth and Melissa Stark on 1282 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 4: the call. The Ravens got in the win column. They 1283 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 4: could easily be oh and three, Greg, they could easily 1284 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 4: be three and oh. How do you see them doing 1285 00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 4: against Josh Allen. 1286 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take them to win in the end. I 1287 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: don't feel strung with the Ravens. No, the Ravens, they're 1288 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: the favorites. They're at home. This is not your normal 1289 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: one and two team. I think that number reflects what 1290 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: the underlying numbers would say about this Ravens team. 1291 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 2: For in Dvoa. 1292 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: This is the best team in the league, the Bills 1293 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: versus the number five team in the league, the Ravens. 1294 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: That the Ravens have been that good. Like I just 1295 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the Packers have the best running game in the 1296 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: league statistically they do, but the Ravens, I think I 1297 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: might take them in the like if I just had 1298 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: to choose one. Lamar Jackson is running really well this year. 1299 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: He is second in the league in success right. Derek 1300 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: Henry is breaking about as many tackles yards after contact 1301 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: as anyone. 1302 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: So it's coming along. 1303 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: And I do think over the years, if you want 1304 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: to beat a Sean McDermott defense, you gotta be able 1305 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: to overpower them and run the ball because they they're 1306 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: on their p's and q's. When you throw the ball 1307 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: against them, and they're very sound, it's hard to get 1308 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: big plays, but you tend to be able to have 1309 00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: some long drives. 1310 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 2: I do think Lamar and Derrick Henry show up in 1311 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 2: this one. 1312 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're gonna have to, right because the 1313 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 5: Ravens defense that front, when they were able just to 1314 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 5: pin him back last week against the Jags, I mean, 1315 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 5: you can't stop them. They made the Jags one dimensional 1316 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 5: early Monday night, and that was that if you make 1317 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 5: them start to, you know, work with that run game. 1318 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 5: As we're saying Dereck Henry, I think he's averaging like 1319 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 5: six yards of care. It's crazy. And they got him 1320 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 5: involved last week, right, they used him in the fourth quarter, 1321 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 5: something that they had not done, mixing some Lamar and 1322 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 5: Justice Hill. I think you can keep this Buffalo Bills 1323 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 5: defense off balance. The one thing that worries me, and 1324 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 5: this is why I like Buffalo in this game, is 1325 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 5: you have seen the Ravens, especially in the second half 1326 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 5: of games, get mismatched with their linebackers against opposing receivers, 1327 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 5: whether it's tight end running backs. And where are the 1328 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills where they make their money yep, with knocks 1329 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 5: and with kincaid and we usually Ty Johnson in the past. Yeah, 1330 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 5: And you have seen in every game with the Ravens 1331 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 5: that have been close, you're seeing ro Kwan Smith chasing 1332 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 5: somebody and a mismatch. You're seeing a linebacker Trent and 1333 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 5: and Himpson race chase somebody in a mismatch. They've got 1334 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 5: to figure out how to work that because teams, you 1335 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 5: better believe that Joe Brady's up there looking at because 1336 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 5: that's what you saw all game against Jacksonville. You saw 1337 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 5: them matching up against the inside linebackers against the Jags 1338 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 5: and having them chasing somebody. You better believe that's something 1339 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 5: that's coming the Ravens way. 1340 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Allen has only missed three passes this entire 1341 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 4: season when targeting the slot. He's twenty three or fix 1342 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 4: and four touchdowns. This is safety Josh. This is the safe, 1343 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 4: not making mistakes version of Josh Allen that we've wanted 1344 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 4: to see for years, and the Jags could do absolutely 1345 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 4: nothing about it. I have real concerns about this this 1346 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 4: Ravens defense in dealing with that because of the issues 1347 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 4: that they've we saw the blown cover against Worthy in 1348 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 4: the opener, the comeback last week, all of the difficulties 1349 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 4: with Davante Adams and the Raiders. 1350 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm actually picking the Bills in this game. 1351 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 4: When when I made the picks for gdv hythen emails 1352 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 4: got you're picking against Baltimore, and. 1353 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 2: It's just I can't remember the last time if it's 1354 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 2: ever happened. 1355 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 3: I think once in the past couple of seasons, and 1356 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: that was just it was a matchup. 1357 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 4: Then it's it's kind of a matchup now I don't 1358 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 4: know how much of the of the comeback on the 1359 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 4: offensive line. Was the offensive line getting better and falloile 1360 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 4: they played a great game, or was that just the 1361 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. 1362 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big time test. 1363 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 3: Ed Oliver is not overmatched. 1364 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: No, No, they've That's been one of the stories of 1365 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the season, how much they're getting out of von Miller 1366 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: and ed Oliver and Greg Russo. I think they're getting 1367 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: more than that because they blitz the least amount in 1368 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: the league, but they still can get enough pressure. 1369 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 2: And what an advantage that is. 1370 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't think though the Buffalo defense, their linebackers, some 1371 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: of their cornerbacks, you know, after Christian Benford. 1372 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Who's he's playing lights out. He's a hell of a player. 1373 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: But I think the rest of the other cornerbacks because 1374 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Tarron Johnson is probably out again, and the safety position 1375 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Toamar Hamlin's playing great. But they've only played you know, 1376 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 1: I know they played the Dolphins and they did well 1377 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 1: against Tua there for two and a half quarters. But 1378 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: you know that Cardinals moved it up and down on them. 1379 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not counting on this defense that they're just 1380 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: like locked down. It's a test. I believe for them too. 1381 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking the Ravens more, just for stupid reasons. One, 1382 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: they tend to be bad in the games where they're 1383 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: big favorites or where they have a big lead, but 1384 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: they show up for big games. 1385 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: This game is really important for them. They're one and two. 1386 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,439 Speaker 1: I think it means more to them, and and they're 1387 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: at home, and so I probably would pick the Bills 1388 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: of if they were at home. I just needed a 1389 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: little more from Justin Tucker. If you look at yeah, 1390 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: how about that, not just that he's missing kicks. Actually, 1391 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: if you look at how when he missed the kick 1392 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: in the field position that they gave up, and how 1393 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: the other teams went and scored right afterwards, he was 1394 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: kind of the reason that Cowboys comeback started. If he 1395 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: hits that kick, they're up thirty one six. Instead, it's 1396 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: a great field position, and the comeback starts. The week 1397 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: before the exact same thing. He was about to put 1398 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: the game away, he missed it, the Raiders get great 1399 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: field position, comeback start, and the week before it was 1400 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 1: a huge miskick against the Chiefs. 1401 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 2: So can you let's go Justin Tucker. 1402 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 3: We need to being in the position of like Hey, justin, 1403 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 3: it's just not happening. 1404 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Well, no, you're not Ben, and he's not missing like 1405 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 2: short kicks or anything crazy. 1406 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 3: But he's pushing him all the same side as well. 1407 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Horball said it was a mechanical issue, a 1408 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 4: technique issue, hopefully because you were the one that pointed 1409 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 4: it out weeks ago. It keep going up against kickers 1410 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 4: where the other kickers better. Brandon Aubrey Tyler Bass is 1411 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 4: not in the Brandon Aubrey Kenny. Now, if anybody is 1412 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 4: kicking matchup, I do think favors. The Ravens are at 1413 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 4: the game. They're gonna have to see hope, I hope. 1414 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: So I am really really excited for this one Sunday 1415 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: night football did it again. They always managed to get 1416 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: the best ones. 1417 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 3: They get first. 1418 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 2: They don't. 1419 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: They don't get Titans Dolphins. That's coming up after the break. 1420 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: But continue to listen. My favorite rivalry in the entire NFL. 1421 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Still haven't talked about that. 1422 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 8: Download the Draftking Sportsbook app now and use the code daily. 1423 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 8: New customers can bet just five bucks to get two 1424 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 8: hundred dollars in bonus bets only on Draftking sports Book 1425 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 8: with Code Daily. 1426 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: The Crown is yours back on NFL Daily. You know 1427 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 2: what game I'm watching in the early window. 1428 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: It's Saints, It's Falcon or it is the best rivalry 1429 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 1430 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 2: And to that, you say, for. 1431 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 3: Forty four years they battle to figure out who wasn't 1432 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 3: the worst eights versus the Alcins. 1433 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 4: It's Steve trying to unite these fan bases, which is 1434 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 4: they've had some moments the last twenty years. 1435 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah, good moment. 1436 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 4: It's it is the fifty five right now to fifty 1437 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 4: four all time. The Saints have a one game lead 1438 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 4: can the Atlanta Falcons tied up in Mercedes spin Stadium 1439 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 4: in Atlanta, New Orleans visiting the Falcons, who are a 1440 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 4: two point favorite. Both teams coming off of late, last minute, 1441 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 4: heartbreaking losses. The Falcons saw their star tailback Bejon Robinson 1442 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 4: get tackled for a loss when they needed a couple 1443 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 4: of yards. Greg, do they get a couple of points 1444 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 4: and beat the New Orleans Saints? 1445 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 2: I like the Saints. It's a toss up. 1446 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Just I think they're highs this year have been so 1447 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 1: much higher obviously than the Falcons. But it wouldn't surprise me. 1448 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: You know, we hadn't talked about it on NFL Daily 1449 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: that Eric McCoy is going to be out six to 1450 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: eight weeks to flow. And if you're if you're picking 1451 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: indispensable players on that Saints offense, he's right near the top. 1452 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's making the calls, he's setting the protections. 1453 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: He was taking a lot off of Derek Carr's plate 1454 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: and doing it at a very high level, one of 1455 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: the very best centers in the league. And so does 1456 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: taking him out make everyone around him a little weaker? 1457 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: It certainly looked like that last week when he got 1458 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: hurt early in that game, and so that that's real 1459 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: concerning for the Saints, as is the fact Alvin Kamara's 1460 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: out of practice Wednesday. He finished last week's game, So 1461 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: I would tend to think he'll be okay, but that 1462 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: would be pretty devastating. 1463 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Two heading on the road. 1464 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 5: Falcons one and two at home lost five of the 1465 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 5: last six to the Saints in Atlanta, but they didn't 1466 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 5: have what. 1467 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: Are the crowds like in these I mean the Atlanta 1468 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Look, there's a ton. 1469 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 3: Of Saints fans in Atlanta. 1470 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 5: That happened after Katrina, when a lot of folks were displaced, 1471 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 5: so you're gonna have a whole bunch of hood ads 1472 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 5: in there. 1473 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 3: But you know, and the Falcons have to earn their owner, 1474 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Arthur Blake, with toys. 1475 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 5: They've got to earn our fans to come back, so 1476 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 5: it's gonna be an interesting crowd. But boy, with this 1477 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 5: one here, I think Atlanta. I'm gonna take Atlanta in 1478 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 5: this one. I just think their offense is finally starting 1479 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 5: to click, even though I just freaking hated that play 1480 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 5: call at to end the game where you're trying to 1481 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 5: stretch it on fourth down with Bijon, But I just 1482 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 5: think that the way that the Falcons offense is starting 1483 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 5: to click, Kyle Pitts is starting to be used right, 1484 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 5: that Drake London is really starting to emerge a player 1485 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 5: we projected to do. So now they've got some things 1486 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 5: against a very good Saints secondary. The only thing that 1487 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 5: I'm afraid of for the Falcons is, you know, Ti 1488 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 5: Mathe and these guys are taking the ball away right 1489 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 5: and you get that pressure on Kirk Cousins. 1490 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna give you one. 1491 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: So where was that there? They got dudes, Yeah, they 1492 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 2: got dudes. 1493 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 3: In that secondary. 1494 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 4: They do, and I'm My main concern would be for 1495 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 4: Atlanta personnel wise, because there's been all everybody's looking at 1496 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 4: what Vic Fangio did last week against the offense I 1497 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 4: was playing better than any almost any other offense ever 1498 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 4: to the first couple of weeks of the season, going 1499 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 4: six to one front. Everybody knows like six to one 1500 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 4: against against that that zone run game causes problems. But 1501 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 4: I don't know that everybody has the personnel the Jalen 1502 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 4: Carters of the world, right, the Jordan Davises of the world, 1503 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 4: to do what the Eagles did to the Saints. It's 1504 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,719 Speaker 4: the Saints, and I know Eric McCoy being out is huge, 1505 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 4: but I still believe in Clin Kubiak in this offense 1506 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 4: to get the points where it's kind of I could 1507 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 4: pick every single Falcons game wrong this season because it's 1508 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 4: it's coming down to the wire, right, So the question 1509 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 4: of whether Kirk makes the play. Kirk made the play 1510 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 4: against the Eagles, and then I know that we could 1511 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 4: talk about the DPI call. If he gets that ball 1512 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 4: up to Kyle Pitts, then they probably get that rag 1513 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 4: in the first one rown, right, And and so like 1514 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm going with Derek Carr because I do think Derek 1515 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 4: Carr is playing better football than Kirk cause wow, And here's. 1516 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 5: One thing I'll say about the Saints offense. If you 1517 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,679 Speaker 5: watch the Falcons front, like kayen Nellis, the former st 1518 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 5: Anti linebacker, is a stud. Elsewhere on that second level, 1519 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 5: they have shoes, they are not physical. They've got some 1520 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 5: chase linebackers. And if the Saints are able to run 1521 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,879 Speaker 5: the ball like they wore those first two games, Kamara 1522 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,600 Speaker 5: or whomever is run the ball might be able to 1523 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 5: pound and get some yards. Because again, kayen Nellis is 1524 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 5: a is an unheralded stud, an INTI linebacker. It's a 1525 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,560 Speaker 5: nice pickup, nice pickup to use him a lot on 1526 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 5: the edge to rush the quarterback as well. But they've 1527 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 5: had Trey Anderson in there and he's he's a chase linebacker. 1528 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 5: He is not someone and teams are going right at him. Right, 1529 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 5: That's something that the Saints could do. 1530 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: When you see a weakness like that, you go after it. 1531 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a lot of carry over here because 1532 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: the front offices, you know, for the Atlanta comes from 1533 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: New Orleans and David Odiamada's over there, and I love it. 1534 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: It's my favorite rivalry because of the fans, because they're 1535 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: funny and they truly hate each other. It's way more collegiate, 1536 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 1: like not collegiate being friendly, but like the CC. You know, 1537 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: it feels like the fans of the SEC who. 1538 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 3: It's secunt I get it. 1539 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: And it's like when the Saints are having a bad season, 1540 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,560 Speaker 1: if you if they can just beat the Falcons or 1541 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: vice versa, or if the Falcons have a bad loss, 1542 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 1: that's almost as good for Saints fans as a Saints win. 1543 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: And so hey, these are two teams trying to figure 1544 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: each other out. I trust the Saints defense in the 1545 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: end more than any other group in this game. To me, 1546 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: the Falcons are kind of a middle of the road team. 1547 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: We'll see what the Saints are. They're gonna have some 1548 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: ups and downs, but I think that defense is gonna 1549 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: travel and I really like them. Carl Granderson is playing 1550 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: out of his mind. He's a Pro Bowl he always has. 1551 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: He always seems like a whole other level. 1552 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 2: I mean, he was good. He took a step last 1553 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 2: year and he's taking another step. 1554 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a good player. And one thing about the 1555 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 5: Falcons defense too typical Raheem Morris. They're gonna give up 1556 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 5: five hundred yards between the twenties, but they don't allow touchdown. 1557 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 3: They got something to watch as well, a team that 1558 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 3: gave up both yards and touchdowns. 1559 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 4: Last week, the Las Vegas Raiders got Dalton at home, 1560 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 4: and now they're back at home in a two point favorite. 1561 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 4: Somebody's got a win because the Cleveland Browns got done 1562 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 4: up by the Leak Neighbors and the New York Giants 1563 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,719 Speaker 4: last week. Should the Raiders be a two point favorite? 1564 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 5: Steve, This is tough, especially wh your head coach college 1565 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 5: y'all for making business decisions. But Antonio Pierce has that 1566 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 5: right because he was a badass player, right. He knows 1567 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 5: what's up. He knows when guys are not tough, playing 1568 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 5: tough football. I'm gonna give I'm gonna give the Raiders 1569 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 5: the two points here because Cleveland they're so banged up. 1570 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 5: I mean, right now they're talking about both tackles are 1571 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 5: nicked up again, Miles Garrett is nicked up, David Njoku 1572 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 5: is nicked up, and frankly, they look a mess. Right, 1573 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 5: They're an incredibly talented team, but Patrick, you mentioned earlier 1574 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 5: about some team not knowing what they are like they 1575 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 5: have not established themselves identity wise. We knew what they 1576 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 5: were last year is a great defensive football team that 1577 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 5: hasn't shown up consistently this year, and so I don't 1578 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 5: know them traveling. It's a game that that that the 1579 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 5: Browns should win, right, It's a game. 1580 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 3: They should win. 1581 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Can't believe they're underdogs. 1582 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,759 Speaker 3: I mean I can't either. 1583 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 1: If that doesn't tell you that you need to bench 1584 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson sooner than later. 1585 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,879 Speaker 2: And I had all though, yes, he's terrible. 1586 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: He he's missing throws when when he is protected, he's 1587 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: completely panicking when he's not. I granted about it for 1588 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: five minutes on Yesterday's NFL Daily, so I'm not going 1589 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: to repeat it there. But I think he is a 1590 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: huge part of the problem based on how we've seen 1591 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: every other quarterback literally that Kevin Stefanski's ever coached in 1592 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland operate. 1593 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 2: He's not making quick decisions. 1594 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: But to your point about the injuries, and this is 1595 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 1: probably why Miles Garrett now has an achilles injury ANAS 1596 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: and he's not practicing at all, and they said he'll 1597 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 1: make the trip to Vegas and hopefully he'll play. But 1598 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 1: Garrett Jack Conklin Jedge, your Quills, David and Joku, Jordan Hicks, 1599 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Jerome Ford all out of practice in my Wyatt Teller 1600 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: landing on injured reserves. So that's a lot of injuries, 1601 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive line. 1602 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 3: And well Max Crosby playing hurt last week as well. 1603 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,600 Speaker 4: That's stuff both Max Crosby and Miles Garrett dealing with 1604 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 4: the injuries, two guys whose franchises have really underperformed for 1605 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 4: them throughout their careers. 1606 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 3: Let's go over to. 1607 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 4: Another game where there's a bad matchup in terms of style. 1608 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers one and a half point favorites, bringing 1609 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 4: that run game into Indianapolis, who has not stopped anybody 1610 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 4: on the ground the over under thirty nine and a 1611 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 4: half points. Anthony Richardson had some head scratchers last week. Greg, 1612 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 4: does he get it figured out enough to deal with 1613 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh. 1614 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 2: Sh I've gotten back and forth. 1615 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I can't decide on this game because something tells me 1616 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: the Colts are like a two and two type of 1617 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: team and that the Steelers aren't really a four to 1618 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: oh type of team. 1619 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 3: So usually the. 1620 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,719 Speaker 1: Schedule, like the record gods just kind of decide, Okay, 1621 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: they'll get one here the Colts, and yet when you 1622 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: watch them, Athy Richardson just isn't taking the check downs. 1623 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: He's not getting the easy stuff. The thing that gets 1624 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: me the most. He's clearly in his own head. You 1625 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,560 Speaker 1: feel for him, he said after the game. He's so 1626 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: hard on myself. I got to give myself grace. But 1627 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 1: he's not, like he's saying. You can almost see him 1628 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: second guessing himself that it really stuck out to me 1629 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: on the RPO decisions. But you would think that would 1630 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: be something he could do well. He keeps giving the 1631 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: ball when he should keep it. He keeps keeping the 1632 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 1: ball when he should give it, and it's just scrambling 1633 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: things up. And it's too bad because Jonathan Taylor's looks 1634 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: like one of the best players in the league right now, 1635 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the league. 1636 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, I've got Pitchburg that, you know, beating 1637 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 5: that number. Because when you have a quarterback who's in 1638 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 5: his head and the RPA RPO game is his thing, 1639 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 5: and you've got TJ. Watt and now Nick Herbig because 1640 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 5: Heismith is not two stud outside linebackers who can game 1641 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 5: you up in the rush or in the RPO game. 1642 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 5: That's problematic. So he better jump out of his head 1643 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 5: big time starting on Wednesday and get ready because they 1644 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 5: you know, you're gonna see just some base four man looks. 1645 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 5: They're probably not gonna do anything crazy in a passing situation, 1646 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 5: So heat him up a little bit. But the fact 1647 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 5: he's completing less than fifty percent of his passes, I 1648 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 5: don't think they're nervous at all, especially with Minka Fitzpatrick 1649 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 5: and those guys in the back end. 1650 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 4: I think one thing that makes it difficult for Anthony 1651 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 4: Richardson to work out of this slump is getting the 1652 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 4: possessions that they need because they just haven't been able 1653 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 4: to be on the field very long. Because the defense 1654 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 4: is seeing teams march up and down the field. Joe 1655 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 4: Mixon goes for one fifty three in the opener. They've 1656 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 4: given up more rushing yards to running backs than any 1657 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 4: other team in the league right now, and he's gonna 1658 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,640 Speaker 4: be nit or miss sometimes right right. 1659 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 3: It's that's just a circumstance that he's gonna have to 1660 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 3: work out. 1661 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,560 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, on the other side, as they've started with this 1662 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 4: justin fields package, it's evolved more and more looking pretty good, 1663 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 4: you know, Mike Tomins gonna be Mike tom He's not 1664 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 4: going to say, hey, this is just Justin Fields job now, 1665 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 4: but it seems like he's getting more and more comfortable 1666 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 4: every single week. 1667 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Can contrast this where it's like Michael Pittman Junior is 1668 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 3: a on a milk carton right now. 1669 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1670 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just I trust the Steelers passing game more, 1671 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 4: or trust their running game more. It's hard to go 1672 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,520 Speaker 4: against Pittsburgh. 1673 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 2: So I don't test their running game. 1674 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 3: Yet. 1675 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: They finished out last week strong against the Chargers. I 1676 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 1: think that was a big step forward. 1677 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 3: Wellanders has some dudes up front. 1678 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: Right, but really the running game has been erratic at best. 1679 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to see them in this matchup against the Colts. Yeah, 1680 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 1: use Justin Fields a little more in the design running game, 1681 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: get naj Harris and Jalen Wore and going. The Colts 1682 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 1: were able to kind of stop a bad run team 1683 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 1: with the Bears last week so that they could feel 1684 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,839 Speaker 1: a little better. So I think that's a key matchup. 1685 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: And then I think the Colt Colts aren't going to 1686 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 1: be consistent throwing the ball. They need to They need 1687 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: to keep hitting those big plays. Maybe you can use 1688 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of Joey Porter, you know, his aggressiveness 1689 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: against them, who knows and hit a couple of those 1690 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: bombs and and let Taylor and Anthony Richardson do the 1691 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,639 Speaker 1: rest on the ground. 1692 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 2: You know, they should be one of the best running games. 1693 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 3: In the league. 1694 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 4: If you want inconsistent passing games, do I have a 1695 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 4: matchup for you? It is the Tennessee Titans against the 1696 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 4: tool lists Miami Dolphins, who offered pretty much nothing. Greg 1697 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 4: on the road against the Seattle Seahawks with Skyler Thompson. 1698 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 4: Will Levis had to pick six, but he didn't do 1699 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 4: it throwing a doing a cartwheel or anything. Last week 1700 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 4: over under thirty six and a half points. Which offense 1701 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:29,719 Speaker 4: is not going to make the mistakes? 1702 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Greg? Whoa? 1703 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 2: Which one is not going to make the mistakes? 1704 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 1: I think they'll both make the mistakes, but I think 1705 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 1: the Titans are more likely to make good plays too. 1706 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,480 Speaker 1: If I had to choose one, I feel for Orlovski, 1707 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, Riddick and Laura Rutledge. I think this is 1708 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: a good group. I enjoy watching their broadcast too, and 1709 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: both of their last week they got a blow out 1710 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 1: that was you know, it was a fun blowout. It 1711 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 1: was a good team seeing an MVP type performance by 1712 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and then this one not what they were 1713 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: hoping for. I continue to not know what the hell's 1714 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 1: up with Will Levis because he really looks pretty awesome 1715 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,560 Speaker 1: for like eighty percent of the place, But you just 1716 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 1: can't I guess you can't live with that that the 1717 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: other twenty percent just goes so side. 1718 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's Jay Cutler. I mean that that's 1719 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,560 Speaker 3: exactly what is like. 1720 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: They'd love it if he was Jay Cutler, like prime 1721 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Jill Cutley's He's a ways from getting like, you know, 1722 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 1: a Jay Cutler type BEARSS contract. 1723 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. 1724 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is like he's gonna he's gonna 1725 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 5: look good, he's gonna make these throws, and then he's 1726 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 5: just gonna do something where you're like, oh my gosh, 1727 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:29,799 Speaker 5: you know he's. 1728 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 3: Gonna give it. 1729 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 5: I actually like Miami in this game because their they're 1730 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,599 Speaker 5: playmakers like they don't have. I think this is one 1731 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 5: where McDaniels could be like, Okay, I got a second week, 1732 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 5: whether Skyler Thompson or you know whomever. I think they're 1733 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 5: talking about Snoop Huntley. 1734 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 3: Possibly Kim Boyle. It's a mystery, right, but it's not 1735 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 3: a mystery to me. It's Snoop Huntley. 1736 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,680 Speaker 5: I would start snoopomp Huntley, and he started games for 1737 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 5: the Ravens for years. I'd put him in and let 1738 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 5: him get the ball to the playmaker. Snoop is from Miami, 1739 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 5: go ahead and let him get his home game on. 1740 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 5: And I mean Tennessee, just the mistakes that they make. 1741 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Rams, you may score two touchdowns in 1742 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 5: this game for Miami playing against this so I like 1743 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,600 Speaker 5: the Dolphins in this game. It's just tough for me 1744 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 5: to pick the mistakes. I recognize that they're going to 1745 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 5: continue happening, but if we're evaluating the teams and the 1746 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 5: circumstances that they're in, it's just having seen this team 1747 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 5: without Tua for multiple times over the past few years, 1748 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 5: I'm not going to pick this team like Tim Bowles 1749 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 5: either and Skyler Thompson. They used motion the third lowest 1750 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 5: rate of the Miman daniel era. They can't run Mike 1751 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,960 Speaker 5: McDaniel's offense with those two. 1752 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Players, and the Titans do one thing exceptionally well as 1753 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: a team which has stop the run, like no one 1754 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: can do physical, you know, And I know the Packers 1755 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 1: got some go into the outside, but they were created. 1756 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's going to happen this week. 1757 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Dolphins had a lot of 1758 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 1: issues with to a healthy and that was something that 1759 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: was really on my run, That's what I mean. And 1760 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,560 Speaker 1: they even the offense didn't play well for six and 1761 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: a half quarters with Tua and suddenly you take them 1762 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: out and you think, is this the worst team in 1763 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, because you know, efficiency wise DVOA so far 1764 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 1: they are. They're dead last. And it's not just the offense, 1765 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 1: it's the defense. The defense is not playing well either. 1766 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know where this team has any positives. 1767 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,679 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're going to be in the primetime spotlight 1768 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 1: with everyone watching. 1769 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,680 Speaker 5: Everyone's gonna be flipping over to the other game on 1770 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 5: ABC because that is a dandy Seattle in Detroit. 1771 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 1: Hey, you know, we only get how many games now? 1772 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: I used to know it was two fifty six, So 1773 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: now what is it? It's two seventy or something like, 1774 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: there's only two seventy four. There's only two seventy four 1775 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 1: of these uh babies, They're all beautiful. So I still 1776 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 1: love our Titans Dolphins Monday night game. Maybe it'll be 1777 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: so bad it's good. That's perfect. Uh, you guys are 1778 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: just so good, it's good. 1779 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:54,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 1780 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: That is it for NFL Daily. Thanks for watching NFL Daily. 1781 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 1: But of course we will be back Thursday night recapping 1782 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Giants with Danny Hifitz of The Ringer. Great analysts, 1783 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: great Giants fan. Looking forward to that. I also have 1784 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 1: my picks with Cynthia Frieland later in the week. Until then, 1785 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: football is back.