WEBVTT - What's Wright - Nick Wright PREDICTS Pacers-Thunder Game 1, reaction to Knicks FIRING Tom Thibodeau 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.200 Welcome in What's Right with Nick Red Episode three thirty seven, 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.240 Live from I'll just be honest, one of my favorite 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.480 places in the entire world. The World Series of Poker 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.840 Events Center were at Horseshoe Resort and Casino, which is 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.840 connected to the Paris Casino, which is in Las Vegas, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:22.000 one of the five greatest. 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:22.480 Cities in the world. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.279 Now, you might say, Nick, sounds like you crushed in 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.479 your poker tournaments yesterday. You're in such a good mood. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.320 That's actually the opposite of what happened. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:31.800 Uh. I. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.920 You know, nobody likes a bad beat story, so I 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.920 won't tell them, but I gotta tell you they listen 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.239 if you know they got a bad beat me to 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.199 beat me, it's just what happens. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.280 It's just what happens. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.960 But despite all that, Demonse, I gotta tell you, I've 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:53.479 been in Vegas for thirty six hours, and I it 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.000 feels like seventy two, but in a great way, in 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.240 a great in the greatest way, I had been here. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.840 And listen, Game one of the finals is tonight. We 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.400 will get to that. You guys haven't heard my thoughts 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.880 on the Knicks firing Tom Thibodeau, So We're gonna get 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.040 to all of that just momentarily, but I just want 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.080 to set the scene for what we're doing. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.679 Uh And by the way, if you. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.240 Guys can't say, we are in the Thunderdome is what 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.360 they call it. This is where I am doing this 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.480 show from. Is the table that I envisioned that I 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.559 would have been playing on yesterday going for a bracelet 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.360 in the ten K Dealer's Choice. Unfortunately, I did not 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.200 last that long in that tournament, and in order to 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.520 be able to play at this table you need to 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.280 advance further in the tournaments than I have yet advanced. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.760 But again, it's only been one day. Despite all of that, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.120 it's been amazing because and I'm not gonna do too 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.280 much poker stuff because I know some listeners don't care, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.120 but anyone who has seen Rounders knows who Johnny f 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:56.800 and Chan is. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.440 The world's back to World Series of Poker. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.520 Main evant champion legend, the guy that Matt Damon just 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.359 had to go play at the Mirage and I think 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.360 four hundred eight hundred or whatever it was limit poker 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.560 and put a bluff on him within ten minutes of 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.480 being in Las Vegas, after landing around midnight Tuesday night, 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.520 I was in a game where sitting on my left 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:23.519 was Johnny Effing Chant. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.959 It's just the greatest. I mean, I gotta. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.880 Say, the single greatest, maybe the single most gratifying part 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.040 about whatever little bit of fame or notoriety I have 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.839 is that I get to play in all these card games. Now, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.240 maybe the people in the card games are like, the 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.480 single best thing about Nick Wright making some money is 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.960 that he plays in our card games. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.680 I don't know. I don't know what they think. I 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.320 just know it is. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.760 An absolute dream. So we will get to more of 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.400 that at the tail end of the show. But the 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:57.320 final start tonight we're not gonna be on TV because 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.160 the euro Soccer Championship is not bocking us off TV. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.920 So I'm here and we will get to that. But 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.160 first we have to do what we always do. What missed 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.959 the cut? Miles Turner, A man after my heart wants 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.480 a Lego Larry O'Brien trophy. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.880 Oh my goodness, Demonte, did you know that? 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:22.200 I I So I bought the car I have the 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.840 They make a Lego version of it, and so I 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.640 bought it and built it and showed that to Wilds 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.960 and he said someone had gotten his kids like five 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.080 thousand piece lego version of the car they have, but 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.520 no one in their house wants to build it, so 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.880 they they bring it to work. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.720 And I'm I'm just building it for him. I'm building 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.560 in the car for him to then give to him. Uh. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.760 Jack Kagleon goes over five in his Royals debut and 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.400 people are like, oh, Nick, he went over for five 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.000 Royal scored ten runs just because of the threat of 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.960 Jack Jeffrey Allen Kaglion in the lineup. And I guess 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.480 Shiloh Sanders used a sword in an Oklahoma drill. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.960 I don't. I'll be honest. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.760 I am not that interested in any of the Shiloh 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.200 Sanders content. But there's a cool video, all right, demanse, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.600 Let's get to what was the shocking news of Tuesday 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.240 afternoon a few hours after the pod, and that's what 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.320 the New York Knicks did. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.680 Yeah, so, after two games away from the NBA Finals, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.240 the New York Knicks have fired TIBs. We talked on Tuesday. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.520 You seem to think that his job was pretty secure. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.880 Myself as well. I couldn't see them fire and TIBs 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.520 but here we are. They fired him. Where did they 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.600 go from here? What's the assessment? 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:36.040 Okay, so. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:42.920 I react, this happened ten minutes before the TV show started, right, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:50.279 And I actually said on the air, sometimes the reacting 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.760 to breaking news are my favorite shows when I look 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.760 back on them, and sometimes they're the most annoying shows 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.640 because I'm like, gosh, darn it, I just didn't have 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.680 that piece of information, you know what I mean, And 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.200 so everything that we said ends up becoming irrelevant a 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.200 few hours later. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.279 I think the TIBs show might end. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.640 Up falling into the former category my favorite shows, and 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.720 here's why. So my snap reaction to the TIBs firing 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.200 was there's really only three. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.160 Ways to view it. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:32.040 Like, there's only three, I guess rationales to the firing. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:38.919 Rationale one was they So let me back up. The 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.599 reason I'm framing it like this is because everyone is 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.680 framing it the way you did, Demonse, which is it 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.039 was the best season in twenty five years. You made 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.160 your first conference finals in twenty five years, you were 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.719 two games away from the NBA Finals, you were favored 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.400 to go to the finals, and you fired your coach. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:06:00.599 So logically speaking, that would mean one of two things 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:01.200 is true. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:06.200 Either A, at. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:09.600 The end of the regular season, they had determined we're 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.120 moving on from Tom Thibodeau. Anything short of a championship 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.080 or making the finals, we're firing that. That's where they 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.159 were kind of like the Nuggets were with Michael Malone. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.280 But the Nuggets just did it. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.640 Beforehand, and they weren't going to let this playoff run 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.480 dissuade them. That's kind of option A, option be if 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.680 if that's not the case, if at the end of 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.880 the regular season his job was safe, then that would 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:40.880 mean option B, which is somehow this playoff run hurt 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.520 TIBs in the front office er ownership's eyes, right if 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.840 he would save after the end of the regular season. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:49.800 That they looked at it and they were like, you 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.760 know what, Demons was right. That victory over the Celtics 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.520 was a fluke. Shouldn't have happened down fifteen in every game. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.240 We're actually not that good, you know what. I Like, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.960 we were trailing Detroit a bunch, we got lucky against Boston, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:10.680 and so like those are in theory, the only. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.320 Two viable paths. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.840 And this is why I'm kind I feel like Tuesday's 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.840 TV show is going to age. Well, I said that, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.679 and then I said, there is, however, a third path, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:28.480 a third rationale I should say, which is they are 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.360 firing Tom Thibodeaux because there is a player they are 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.240 trying to acquire that they think they will be more 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:43.240 likely to acquire if they fire Tom Thibodeau. And the 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.840 what I was implying without really saying, is was it 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:57.120 possible that someone from Giannie's camp said, Hey, you know, 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:03.920 if person X your coach, maybe not only you know, 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 would it push Janis closer to asking for a trade, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.320 but maybe he would ask for a trade to the 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.600 Nick specifically. So I just kind of threw that out 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.560 there as a possibility. I don't think you would have 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.920 to fire a Tibbs in order to give yourself a 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.480 better chance to get Kevin Durant Yannis is the other 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.760 big name out there, So I just threw that out 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:32.960 there on Tuesday and then demanse, did you see the 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.079 kind of weird report about one of the coaches the 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.680 Knicks might want to go after? 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:40.679 Because I did. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.560 It was a coach who currently has a job, and 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:50.960 it was Jason Kidd. And if people remember Jason Kidd 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:58.200 coached Janice in Milwaukee, and when Jason Kidd was fired, Yannis, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.760 the reporting was he called Jason Kidd and said, is 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.320 can I fix it? Should I call ownership and say, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:12.080 unfire you? I'm paraphrasing, so again I'm not I am 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.760 I'm literally I could not be further away from reporting 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.560 anything here. I have been gambling NonStop for the last 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.360 thirty six hours. I've not been working the phones. I've 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:28.720 been playing poker. I'm simply saying the firing TIBs. It 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:35.400 was odd enough that a little alarm bells went off. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.439 And then when I because the reporting Demanse was there 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.400 were two coaches who currently have jobs the Knicks were 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.920 interested in. It was Jason Kidd and emy Udoka and 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.880 I'm like, okay, well, emy Udoka is not going to 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.160 be available, like and so it felt to. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:59.000 Me and again maybe maybe I'm wrong, like. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.320 Udoka was included in that, like, hey, yeah, there's a 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.319 lot of you know, established coaches that you know we might. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.160 Like, but it's really that one name. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.839 It's just that it was really about exactly. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:19.760 And then this morning on the walk over from Aria 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:24.320 where I'm staying to Horseshoe where the World Series of 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.720 poker is. I was listening to Brian windhorse Show The 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:35.240 Hoop Collective and anybody, by the way, who tweeting me 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.360 or asking me or whatever about Lebron once again going 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.599 at Wendy, I would please. What I would like to 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 say about that is it makes me very sad and 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.000 I wish he wouldn't do it, and I you know, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.200 I appreciate you respecting my privacy at this time, I 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:56.200 do not like it. But bright I was listening to 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:03.000 Brian Windhorst on his great podcast with Tim bond Temps 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:09.040 and Tim McMahon, Tim McMahon who covers all the Texas 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.240 teams for ESPN, and the Jason Kidd thing came up, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.280 and Tim McMahon did not who just wrote a book 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.840 on Luca, who's very close to the MAVs. When the 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.599 Jason Kidd thing came up, Tim McMahon did not say, Oh, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.280 no chance, there's no way the MAVs are letting him leave. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.280 There's no that didn't happen. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:40.840 So Jason Kidd might want to leave Dallas. I sat 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:42.079 they have. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.400 Cooper Flag coming, but it's still kind of a toxic situation. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.080 And here's the other thing. Even if like it wasn't 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:55.240 a toxic situation, so much easier to win in the East. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.400 Right now, right now, I'm gonna add one other piece 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:04.280 of this because obviously Jim Dolan was involved to some level. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.920 I don't know how much of a level, but to 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:12.880 some level. Okay, So I'm gonna the I'm gonna build 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.000 a long bridge. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.400 To get to this point. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.160 Somebody I DIDNN interview a couple of weeks ago, and 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.440 that silly like face of the network thing came up 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.560 again when the guy asked me about FS one and 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.800 me and I answered what I've always answered, which is, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.240 for the last almost decade, Colin Cowhard has been an 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.200 hat for every single day, the face of FS one, 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.319 and he will be until he stops broadcasting for us. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.360 And people think, like, that's just you know me, you know, 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.960 kind of paying tribute to a guy who's my professional 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.960 idol and friend, and you know all that, and some 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:59.240 of that's true whatever, but it's also it's not like 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:04.400 an America his title. He's also as like the kids 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.679 on Twitter would say, still throwing ninety eight on the 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.600 black whenever he wants. Because Coward had the best Jim 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.400 Dolan take ever, and he just said it as an 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.600 aside a few years ago, and it's so perfect that 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.640 I'm here in Vegas when we're talking about this, which 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.520 is coward said, do you know why the Knicks all 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:33.679 of a sudden got good, good management, good coaching, They 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:39.040 were a functional adult franchise. And he said it was 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.160 because Jim Dolan was building the Sphere in Las Vegas 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.920 and was not and was distracted. And I'm like, oh, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:52.439 that's exactly right. Like Jim Dolan's favorite toy forever, ever 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:56.640 since he inherited cable vision and MSG from his dad, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.880 has been the Knicks. But then his company was building 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.319 the Sphere in Vegas and that was his new toy, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.480 and so he had to leave the Nicks alone. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.000 And like, all right, Leon. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.280 Rose and Worldwide West, you guys handle it like you 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:13.839 know what I mean. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.000 And it's it's the greatest take. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.160 It's and it's why Colin's the greatest ever do it 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.640 because nobody, nobody else's brain works that way. But the 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.040 moment he said it, I'm like, god, damn it, you're 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:33.640 a hundred percent. It makes perfect sense. It's exactly what happened. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.480 It's exactly what happened. But here's here's my contribution to that. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:44.640 Take guess what demands The sphere is built and it's 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:49.200 up and running and it's self sustaining, and the Nicks 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.120 just had this magical. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.960 Playoff run and so guess what this is? 0:14:55.000 --> 0:15:00.320 Like a toy story, Buzz Aldrin Woody situation that that 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.160 you threw in the back of the closet because the 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.720 other one was taking up your attention. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.160 It's like away, by the way, what did I say? 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.160 What did I say? 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.440 Oh, Buzz Alter, that's actual. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.320 He's the third man to walk on the moon, or 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.560 second man to walk on the moon. Sorry, Buzz Buzz 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:19.360 Lightyear and Woody. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:19.680 No. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.160 But then all of a sudden, the Nick, the Knicks, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.280 the sphears up and running. The Knicks are fun now, 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:31.080 shalow maze there they're making runs. Jim Dolan's like, I'm back, baby, 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.080 Let's make some Let's make No, I'm not saying they're 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.400 gonna suck. What I'm saying is, all of a sudden, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.440 they're making drastic moves again. Right, He's like, what if 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.200 we fire the coach? What if we try to poach 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.840 Jason Kidd? What if we do this? So it's just 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.440 I and with all that said, I don't necessarily think 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.080 this is the wrong move. Here is, though I do 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.200 have the I want to bounce this off you pal okay, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.040 because people were disappointed with the Like I'll give the 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.480 fair criticisms of Tibbs in a second, But here's one 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.240 of the things, like that the Knicks were bad defensively 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.760 in these playoffs for large portions of it. Here is 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.920 what I would be worried about and the risk they 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.280 would run they are running. Is it because Tibbs calling 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.160 card his whole career has been great defense? 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.720 Right? Is it possible. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:32.400 That the defense the Knicks had this year, while maybe 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:37.720 disappointing to some, was actually the best defense you can 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:42.960 realistically have if Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns are 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.200 your two best players, you know what I mean? Like, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.840 were they actually, because of Tibbs better defensively than they 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:56.360 should have been? But because of those two guys defensive limitations, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.000 was it still not good enough? 0:16:59.040 --> 0:16:59.400 Pardon me? 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.120 Like, that's that would be the That would be the 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.960 concern that I think is potentially a real concern. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.600 Right right? That makes sense? He was just working with 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.680 what he had. I mean, obviously, I have no choice 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.720 but to play cat and Brunson, what are you gonna do? Right? 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.640 So here's now here's what I think is a fair 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.840 criticism of Tibbs and also. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.520 A reminder for everybody. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.680 And this applies mostly to basketball coaches, but you can 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.400 find a way to make it apply to any walk 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.840 of life. It's always risky to make it clear to 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:40.440 your boss that you don't think your boss has done 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:47.440 a great job. And here's what I mean Tibbs's stance 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:51.880 of and he bent on it a bit at the 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:52.640 very end in. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.240 The playoffs, but was probably too late. 0:17:54.760 --> 0:18:01.399 Stance of I have to play these five guys forty 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:06.200 plus minutes because I don't have enough other good players 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:11.280 is always risky when the person who picked the players 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:17.040 can fire you like it wasn't intentional. But whenever a 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.280 coach this this happened. This is why Calvin Booth was 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.840 mad at Michael Malone and then the owner there was like, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.440 you're both fired, but it was Michael Malone was like, no, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.000 Russ has to play forty plus minutes because the young 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.000 players stink, and the Calvin Booth was like, I picked 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.159 those young players. I think they're quite good and so 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.720 if you're like, if you're Leon Rose and Timms is like, sorry, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.400 Mkale Bridges has to play forty five minutes a game 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:48.160 because I can't play Landry Shammitt or Delon right, Leon 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.359 Rose is like, I don't know. I thought those guys 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 were good enough to bring in here. That's always a 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.000 bit of a bit of a risk. Now, I also 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.920 think they did not get enough out of Mikale Bridges 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.720 this year, and you can put some of that on Tibbs. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.600 And I also do think this there is and we 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.920 talked about this. We don't have to spend too much 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:10.879 more time on it. There is a real benefit or 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.879 a real risk to not experimenting with lineups in the 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.560 regular season is you don't get the real time reps 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:24.160 and be like, oh shit, Delon Wright plus Douce McBride, 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:29.080 cat Og and Michale Bridges, that lineup can cook, like 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.840 the different lineup combinations or whatever. Oklahoma City now they 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.040 won sixty eight games, but they are the standard. Oklahoma 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:41.520 City played every lineup combination imaginable through the regular season, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.040 and now they go into the playoffs with real date 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.199 on all of it. So I know we have TIBs 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.119 follow ups. But so let's get to them. But there's 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:57.800 my big picture TIBs take. And I apologize to Adam Silver, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.480 who just did a great interview on Breck Fastball and 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.360 uh Thunder and Pacers fans because they're like day one 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.399 of the finals and you're talking about a fired coach. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.920 In my defense that we did a lot of finals 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.960 preview stuff on Tuesday because the final, like that is 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.440 a weird thing about the NBA Playoffs. It's just every 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.280 night eyes bleeding from watching so much basketball and then 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.679 there's like a week where we're just chilling and and so. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.160 But uh but all right, what are the tips follow 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:28.680 ups going? 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.640 And be honest, lo key always shaking up the NBA man. 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.959 Well, again, this is just a this is just a 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:35.720 theory by me. 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.040 I'm not reporting it. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.119 It's it's not even close to one hundred percent, just 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:41.639 an idea. 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.800 It's just go ahead, So we'll do a game of 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.960 likely maybe what if to see who will be the 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.240 next head coach at New York. So it's like it's 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.520 likely that Blank will get the job, but maybe Blank 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.280 gets the job, and what if this person gets the job? 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:57.200 So likely? 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:03.800 Okay, so the I mean Brrew kept Bruce kept saying, 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.440 I want to make sure I get this right. Uh 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:13.920 what who gosh darn it, it wasn't. I'm gonna Johnny Bryant. 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.480 Bru kept saying Johnny Bryant and. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.359 Brew Brew is one of them. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.040 Now, Bruce said he didn't make any calls, he didn't 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.760 know anything on it. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.879 It was just his speculation. 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.480 But then right after the show, Johnny Bryant was the 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.199 Vegas favorite for it. Now, it's also true, this is 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.760 one of the rare times where like first things first 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.640 might have kind of helped set the line in Vegas 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.000 because this thing. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:42.520 Broke it two fifty. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.919 Bru is on the air at three oh two talking 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.159 Johnny Bryant, and then the sports books like what do 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.920 they you know, I think they're probably you know, what 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.960 are people saying? Whatever it was? And so I don't 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.400 know if that was kind of the tail. 0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:58.960 Wagging of the dog. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.520 The odd thing to me about Johnny Bryant, and I 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:03.240 said this to. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.400 Brew was right. 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.119 Now, he's the Cavs associate head coach. He was an 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.600 assistant under TIBs. So do they fire TIBs to. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:11.359 Bring in Johnny? 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.960 I don't know, but Brew, so I think likely it's 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.520 Johnny Briant. And the other piece of this is the 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.600 Knicks fired TIBs the day Johnny Briant was named a 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.240 finalist for the Son's job, he then didn't get the 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:30.960 Sun's job. Maybe it's Jason Kidd, And then the what 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.200 if is this demanse because this is the other piece 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.040 of it. I haven't talked about what if it's Rick 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:45.680 Brunson because if it's not, that's an awkward piece of this, 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:47.840 which is. 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:51.959 When they're interviewing. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.280 Head coaches, do they say, by the way, one other thing, 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:01.159 you can pick your whole staff except for one spot 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.840 Rick Brunson's got Like are they firing Rick Brunson? 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:07.080 That would seem. 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:14.120 Tricky, Like you know what, like honestly, like what he's doing. No, not, 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.320 I don't think. I don't think so at all. My 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.840 is no, no, no, I I don't think he is 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:28.639 at all. My point is that usually a new coach 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:32.600 brings in their own staff. But when one of the 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.399 coaches on your staff is the dad of the best 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:40.480 player on your team, like that's ah, you know, that's 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:44.560