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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to the Buck brief first time on

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Speaker 1: the show. Michelle Moons Dowie is with us. She formerly

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Speaker 1: worked in the Trump White House, a special assistant to

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Speaker 1: President Trump at the time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe again in the future.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things coming together right now about who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing what. Let's start with this, Michelle, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the picks are coming together so far?

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Speaker 1: Any surprises? What are the highlights this Trump cabinet? What

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Speaker 1: are your feelings about it as somebody who's seen the

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Speaker 1: inner workings of the White House with this president now

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Speaker 1: just going into two point zero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks for having me. It is an exciting

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Speaker 2: time and they are coming rapid fire, so it's fun

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Speaker 2: every day watching them come in. I think he's got

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Speaker 2: some amazing picks, a lot of surprises along the way.

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Speaker 2: You've got a mix of different realms coming in. So,

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Speaker 2: for example, the Pete Heggsath pick, I don't think anyone

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Speaker 2: had him on the list, and that's not the people

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Speaker 2: that we were talking about, but there it was. And

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Speaker 2: some others have been surprises too, But I would say

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Speaker 2: just very solid. It's emblematic of really the resounding mandate

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Speaker 2: that the American people had for us on election Day,

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Speaker 2: which was they wanted change, They wanted the economy to

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Speaker 2: get back to what we had under Trump. They wanted

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Speaker 2: more peace. And that's something that's a pitch. We made,

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Speaker 2: my husband and I a in Michigan as we we

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Speaker 2: had gone up there and just on our own campaign

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Speaker 2: for Trump and registered in under three weeks over a

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Speaker 2: thousand people and convinced a bunch more to vote for

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Speaker 2: Trump within the midle Eastern community up there, which.

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Speaker 1: Is very talk to me about this. This is a

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Speaker 1: big This was a big thing, right because there were

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Speaker 1: there were concerns from the Kamala campaign that there were

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Speaker 1: concerns obviously about the Muslim American community specifically in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I think more broadly across the United States and how

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Speaker 1: they were going to vote in this election cycle. Some

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Speaker 1: even said that this is why she didn't go with

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Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania as her running mate. They've never

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Speaker 1: confirmed that, but it certainly seemed to add up based

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Speaker 1: on the analysis. What were people telling you when you

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Speaker 1: were on the ground before this monumental election, registering people,

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Speaker 1: particularly people of Middle Eastern descent. They're voting this election

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Speaker 1: what were their feelings like, what were you picking up

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Speaker 1: from them? What was the media narrative accurate? Basically that

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Speaker 1: they were very dissatisfied with Kamala and why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were I would say, a predominant word

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Speaker 2: that we would hear is hate. The hated Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: There was a move for people to push towards Jill

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Speaker 2: Stein as a third party candidate. We were really making

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Speaker 2: the case that they should vote Trump, that he brought

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Speaker 2: more peace, that under his presidency previous, that he was

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Speaker 2: not starting new wars, we had more peace and we

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Speaker 2: had more prosperity. And those were two major issues. A

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Speaker 2: third issue was parental rights, very big in this community. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to conflate it because I had friends

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Speaker 2: in conservative media not understanding why this group was so

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Speaker 2: supportive of Trump. Now you've got a more Muslim Middle

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Speaker 2: Eastern American community, and then the Kaldean community, which is

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Speaker 2: more which is more Christian. And so in one of

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Speaker 2: the areas where we were doing tabling for registering people

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Speaker 2: our efforts and the words he used were blown away

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Speaker 2: at the response that we were getting at these tables.

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Speaker 2: So a couple of things. One from the Kaldean community

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Speaker 2: very enthusiastic for Trump. That there were two aspects of

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Speaker 2: what he was blown away about. One, we didn't have

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Speaker 2: up to us. There were times where there were lines

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Speaker 2: people were in line to register to vote for Trump.

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Speaker 2: We had a Trump cutout, life sized cutout that they

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Speaker 2: would take pictures with families. We even sent someone down

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Speaker 2: There was a woman that came by and said, my

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Speaker 2: one hundred and two year old mother's dying wish is

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Speaker 2: to vote for Donald Trump, to see him back in

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Speaker 2: the White House, and she prays for him every day.

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Speaker 2: So we sent someone down there to register her and

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Speaker 2: her friend who pray for President Trump every day. And

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Speaker 2: they didn't want any sort of publicity out of it.

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Speaker 2: They just they sent us videos just for our own

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Speaker 2: again these are all American citizens that we were registering

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Speaker 2: at the unrest in the least that has been going on,

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Speaker 2: think it was during the debate where she said, I

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Speaker 2: three days before the war broke out and was, you know, negotiating,

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Speaker 2: and then came back and we go I'm watching her

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Speaker 2: argument and going, well, so you weren't a very good

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Speaker 2: So it just goes to show you that she can't

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Speaker 2: Middle East and other places abroad. So that was something

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Speaker 2: that they were really receptive to that I would say

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Speaker 2: that was their number one issue, is just wanting more peace.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that you had to promise them anything in

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Speaker 2: particular other than look, we had more peace under Trump,

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Speaker 2: So you can throw away your vote on a third

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Speaker 2: party candidate, but we encourage you. Plus Trump brings prosperity

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Speaker 2: was another major issue for them, and the parental rights

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Speaker 2: very big. You know, we've seen news stories where Muslims

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Speaker 2: and Christian parents are marching side by side out of

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Speaker 2: fact that the schools have not let people pull their

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Speaker 2: that in our country, you know, outside of schools that

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Speaker 2: they're side by side. So on certain issues, you know,

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Speaker 2: you really see that at what Trump promises and what

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Speaker 2: these main three things.

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Speaker 1: Like how does all that interplay work? I think people

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Speaker 1: was it like, I mean, you know, you were in

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but it

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Speaker 1: might be some stuff going on. Tell me, you know,

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Speaker 1: the day to day of it, you know, is it

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Speaker 1: Is it something that you would say, It's like people

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Speaker 1: would you describe it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that I would compare it

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Speaker 2: as what we call a staff, a specialist to the president.

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Speaker 2: That's you usually have like two titles in that realm,

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Speaker 2: but you are basically considered on twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: It could be a twelve hour day. You know, you

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Speaker 2: a lot to get done. And I will say that

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Speaker 2: leadership of this country. So obviously President Trump leading the charge,

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Speaker 2: but you've got so many people within the administration working

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Speaker 2: It was just the slow workings of things. But that

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Speaker 2: of both sides of the isle. There are things that

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Speaker 1: What's the best thing, I mean, like if you could

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Speaker 1: worse every single year, like without fail. The numbers are staggering.

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Speaker 1: What would you tell him to actually do to turn

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Speaker 1: entirely fixed. But how do you make improvements there?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot to tackle in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: But I will say that they were taking large, large

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Speaker 2: We'll see about that. We have two small children. Would

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Speaker 2: I look at people like Carolyn Lovett, the first the

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Speaker 1: There's a lot, a lot of stuff, a lot of

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much,