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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Move the Sticks. I'm Bucky Brooks, your host,

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Speaker 2: and I am with Adam Deeeland, the winner of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Walter Payton Man of the Year Award,

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Speaker 2: presented by Nationwide. We would be announced during the NFL Honors,

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Speaker 2: a primetime award special to air Nasty on Fox and

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Speaker 2: the NFL Network on Thursday, February sixth. But Adam, I'm

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Speaker 3: But first, how you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good. Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's always

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Speaker 4: good to talk to you. But yeah, all good. Just

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Speaker 4: in that prep week as we have this kind of

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Speaker 4: in the last four weeks of the season. You know,

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Speaker 4: you're tired, your body hurts, but once you get to Sunday,

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Speaker 4: you're just ready to go and play and compete, which

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Speaker 4: is always fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that part is always fun.

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Speaker 2: But before we even get to talking about like the

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Speaker 2: fun stuff that you're doing on the field, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about off the field, in your work in the community

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Speaker 2: with your foundation and those things, tell us a little

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Speaker 2: bit about what you're doing impacting the kids around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my wife and I we felt like we've

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Speaker 4: been given a platform and it wasn't it was really

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Speaker 4: us this opportunity and these resources to not just hold

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Speaker 4: resources opportunities for others. And the way that we decided

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Speaker 4: and our mission statement is to help youth reach their

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Speaker 4: full potential. And over the last six years of starting

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Speaker 4: our foundation, we've really kind of tried to find the

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Speaker 4: best way that that or the biggest impact that we've

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Speaker 4: seen through some of the given back we've given and

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Speaker 4: a lot of it, the most impact we felt was

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Speaker 4: through sport. Really we call it our initiative Change through

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Speaker 4: you know, really be proud of going and working out

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Speaker 4: have a lot of resource. So it's been really cool

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Speaker 4: up having those great facilities, or or not even assarly

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Speaker 4: of the attitude changer that it is for them, uh,

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Speaker 2: Of, you know, one of the things uh that I

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Speaker 2: know everyone who gives back, they always do it from

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Speaker 2: the kindness of the heart.

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Speaker 3: But it's always great to be recognized.

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Speaker 2: So what does it mean to you to be nominated

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Speaker 2: as a Walter Payton Man of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it is a great honor.

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Speaker 4: I never really enjoy like personal, you know, awards, especially

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Speaker 4: such a great honor to represent this organization, this team,

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Speaker 1: This is not an individual award.

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Speaker 4: This is truly a collective award for this organization and

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Speaker 4: also for all the people who have helped make those

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Speaker 1: Back home in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: There's so many people that have really kind of just

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Speaker 1: From the very beginning. So very thankful for.

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Speaker 4: All the people involved, and really everybody is a part

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Speaker 4: and and it's something that you have to live up to.

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Speaker 4: Right when you get an award like this, it makes

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Speaker 2: You know, I thinking about the great honors that you've

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Speaker 2: One of those players, obviously, is your quarterback Rice Young,

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Speaker 4: everybody throughout this organization in this building. So he's definitely

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Speaker 2: You know, like even in your own wide receiver room,

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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you're trying to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, step number one for me is I

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Speaker 1: Help, and just to be available. Really, I just want

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just try to be help where.

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Speaker 4: You know, I get to to watch a guy like

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Speaker 4: with with Xavier and Jalen, guys who just they do

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that you brought up Justin Jefferson's name,

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Speaker 2: In your time in the league, have you seen skilled

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the game has has evolved into you

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Speaker 1: To just be one or the other. You have to.

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Speaker 4: Really be an all around receiver. And I think the

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Speaker 4: There's this kind of like all around receiver that you're seeing.

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Speaker 4: So again, I just feel like you can't just be

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Speaker 3: We'll be back. We're more Adam Thielen.

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Speaker 2: Right after this, when I uh in the league as

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Speaker 2: development that can play multiple positions and be an interchangeable

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it can be challenging, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's a challenge usually that that motivates guys

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Speaker 4: It's fun to learn an offense, to learn understand why

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Speaker 1: At times.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really a cool part of the game,

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Speaker 4: just makes you more excited to play the game. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's crucial because it just

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Speaker 1: So the more that you.

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Speaker 3: Now that's a great ben.

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Speaker 2: It's great that you move that you mentioned because looking

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Speaker 2: We've seen the Philadelphia Eagles duo with Davonte Smith and A. J.

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Speaker 2: you too that with Stefan Diggs. You've done it with

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Speaker 2: other guys throughout your career. This has been so great

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Speaker 2: to chat Man. Thanks so much for what you do

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Speaker 2: in the community. Being a North Carolina product having spent

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Speaker 2: that you've also helped. So we'll look forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: you hopefully win the Walter Payton Man of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining the program, Adam d.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you so much. Man.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Adam Thielan for joining the show today.

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Speaker 2: Like really enjoyed the conversation, really joyed his insight about

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Speaker 2: playing in the wide receiver position. He has become one

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Speaker 2: of the best in the business, and to do it

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Speaker 2: as an undrafted free agent. Speaks volumes about his skill

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Speaker 3: The other thing we appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Is the fact that he is a Walter Peyton Man

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Speaker 2: of the Year honoree. And hopefully you will check out

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Speaker 2: the winner of the twenty twenty four Walker Peyton Man

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Speaker 2: of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Award, presented by the Nationwide.

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Speaker 2: It'll be announced during the NFL Honors, a primetime awards

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Speaker 2: special to Air nationally on Fox on NFL network on

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Speaker 2: Thursday February sixth. Until next time, I'm Bucky Brooks. This

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Speaker 3: Talk to you,