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Speaker 1: But this certainly is the Brake got a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of players rolling through in and out of here.

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to suggest there, Nick wonder why there's

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Speaker 1: receivers all over the cover of our I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think Cony Ealy was on the cover of it

426
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Speaker 1: was we all must always get one. Well, we don't

427
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Speaker 1: always get the pick, but we always get a guy

428
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: that they target, that's for sure. Well, Brian and a

429
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of people put it in some good work there.

430
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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels that he's on really is fun, and this

431
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Speaker 1: is this is your time of year. You love it.

432
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: You love looking at this these guys, and yeah, it's

433
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Speaker 1: the whole thing with the draft though it's always been

434
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: a part of me and you know, going back, I

435
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be back in the day guy, but yeah,

436
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: this is the time you really get to help your team.

437
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: There are a lot of questions about a nine and seventeen.

438
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: We we were hammering defensive line, linebackers, all kinds of things,

439
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: and that's what you do. That's what's going on right now.

440
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: You know they're having these visits, they're gonna get in

441
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: these draft beings on April ninth. The naturally gonna be

442
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: a lot of argument about where Charles Tapper fits and

443
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: where other players fit and how they need to maybe

444
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Speaker 1: supplement with the draft. So it's a good opportunity right there,

445
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Speaker 1: all right. You can get the print and digital issue

446
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Speaker 1: for ninety five is for either one print or digitally,

447
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Speaker 1: go to Dallas Cowys dot com, slash Star or shop

448
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. You can get the magazine there

449
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Speaker 1: all right, Let's talk a little bit more about one

450
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: of the things that was It was in this magazine

451
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: we were able to do a seven round mock draft

452
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Speaker 1: on Cowboys writers all ten picks and uh, you know

453
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Speaker 1: it's you're talking about taking a stab and stuff. Yeah,

454
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna use ten picks, but hey, I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: for the purposes of this, you don't think probably not no,

456
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: but first round pick at nineteen Brian and Rob had

457
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Speaker 1: the same guy, Layton Vandereshander, you had Rashaw and Evans,

458
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: I had Dron Payne. I believe all three of them.

459
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Speaker 1: I think we're in the ballpark there. Yeah, I really do.

460
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Speaker 1: They're here in this Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, they're all here.

461
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: And and you know we're you know, we're talking about linebackers.

462
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: You know, three of the three guys all felt like linebackers,

463
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Speaker 1: and then yours with the defensive tackle that those are

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: the positions we're talking about. I mean, sorry, you're no safety,

465
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: but we're that that's what you're trying to do. Hey,

466
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Speaker 1: don't be sorry for be sorry for the team. I'm

467
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Speaker 1: I'm no, no, I'm with you on that, but kind

468
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Speaker 1: of say, okay, what linebacker could be there or what

469
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. And I think of that first round that

470
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Speaker 1: nobody that that follows us on the Draft show or

471
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Speaker 1: our shows would be. You know, we haven't been as

472
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Speaker 1: high on Vanderish as far as a player. I think

473
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Speaker 1: Evans myself, I really do like him and I do

474
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Speaker 1: like Pain, So I thought those were really good picks.

475
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Speaker 1: I just kind of went on what I thought they

476
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Speaker 1: would do, you know, I mean, I I have not

477
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Speaker 1: been as high on vanders. I think he covered very well.

478
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: I think he you know, playing the point of attack.

479
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I think there's some things about him. But Evan's to me,

480
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: a more physical player, more guy that maybe that Mike

481
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: linebacker that you know you want to do something with

482
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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, move him around, take him out of the

483
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Speaker 1: nickel and stuff. I mean, I liked I liked all

484
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Speaker 1: the picks, especially the ones that you guys were making

485
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: as well. You know, Jason Garrett, he went to Alabama

486
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Speaker 1: for the pro day last week, and he went to

487
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Speaker 1: Ohio State a couple of years ago. And I think

488
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Speaker 1: when that happens, it's you know, he's obviously looking at

489
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Speaker 1: more than one guy, right um, and you know, al Man,

490
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: it might be another player there might be Calvin Ridley

491
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Speaker 1: that they were looking at it, and that's I'm glad

492
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Speaker 1: you kind of said that, because from as far as

493
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Speaker 1: I'm concerned, I don't care about the name. I really

494
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: don't like you. It's trying to pick a needle out

495
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Speaker 1: of a haystack, like one of us might be right, sure,

496
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: but I think we're but no, I mean, that's what

497
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Speaker 1: I care about, is like trying to give people an

498
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Speaker 1: idea of what to expect, and I think you look

499
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Speaker 1: at this. I got in an argument with with Mickey

500
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Speaker 1: Swagnola yesterday about the same thing, like it's what can

501
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Speaker 1: you expect to be there for you at nineteen? I

502
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Speaker 1: think linebacker is a great guest. I think defensive tackle

503
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: is a great guess. Offensive guard, and then maybe wide receiver.

504
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: There's one, maybe two wide receivers that make sense, but

505
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Speaker 1: those when you kind of start to narrow it down,

506
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Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, I would love a safety too,

507
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Speaker 1: It doesn't really make sense based on what's there for you.

508
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Cornerback doesn't make a ton of sense based on what's

509
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Speaker 1: on this team. Obviously they're not going to draft a

510
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Speaker 1: quarterback or running back. Stephen Jones said that himself yesterday,

511
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Speaker 1: tight end, I would be surprised. So again, like you

512
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Speaker 1: kind of you look at the ten or eleven positions

513
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Speaker 1: that make up a football team. Linebacker, defensive tackle, maybe,

514
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Speaker 1: edge rusher throw that in there, um, wide receiver maybe

515
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Speaker 1: and guard. Like that's kind of the circle that I'm

516
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Speaker 1: drawing and where I'm looking. So, whether it's late In

517
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Speaker 1: vander esh, Rashaan Evans, Dron Payne, Vita Vea, I don't

518
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Speaker 1: care about the name. I'm just trying to get an

519
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Speaker 1: idea of what I think they're gonna do. Does does

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Speaker 1: does the potential of moving Collins from tackle to guard

521
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Speaker 1: keep you from drafting a guard in this draft? In

522
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Speaker 1: this do you think if you if you, if you

523
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Speaker 1: came in, you still you still think about drafting a guard.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it as a first round pick type

525
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Speaker 1: of sure position draft, but they definitely need to drop

526
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Speaker 1: someone there. Yeah, So regardless of him and Martin, I mean,

527
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Speaker 1: keep the competition. We answered the millbag this morning about

528
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: Chad's green. Chad's Green needs to stay at tackle. I

529
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Speaker 1: mean they messed that up. They're trying to play their

530
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Speaker 1: best five, they mess that up. Stay at tackle? If well,

531
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Speaker 1: go back, go back, go back to playing at tackles.

532
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Speaker 1: Don't don't. Yeah, don't you think about him playing guard anyway?

533
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Speaker 1: That was that was just a bad mistake right there.

534
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: That was just a bad mistake. But I was just saying,

535
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Speaker 1: if in your mind, if you went into this draft thinking,

536
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Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna move Collins, Fleming is gonna

537
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Speaker 1: play right tackle and we're gonna move Collins, does that

538
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Speaker 1: it does? It's just it have to take you at it.

539
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Speaker 1: You mean you mentioned guard. That would bumm me out.

540
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Speaker 1: You don't want to be college. I mean I don't

541
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Speaker 1: want to. I wouldn't want to move Callings. But at

542
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Speaker 1: the same time, he's still not a bad option. He's

543
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Speaker 1: still players. So it's like, Okay, you look at it

544
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, you don't want to move him, but it's

545
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Speaker 1: not the worst. I hope either. I hope they draft

546
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Speaker 1: a guard, but I hope it's not in the first round.

547
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I worry about. I worry about them

548
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: going in this draft with that is their ason the hole.

549
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: You know what, we're Hey, we're gonna move Collins, We're

550
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna play Fleming at right tackle for one year or well,

551
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: then you you could also say you could go the

552
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Speaker 1: opposite and say we can move Collins if we have to.

553
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: We can. You know, let's say we spend pick eighty

554
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: one on a guard and then if if him or

555
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Martin just doesn't look like the right call, then

556
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: we still have Collins and we can move him if

557
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: we need to. I mean, but I'm sorry taking it

558
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: out of a a first round guard. That a first round

559
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: guard is what really what we need to think about. Yeah,

560
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Speaker 1: because you mentioned at nineteen I would do it. If

561
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I would do that if they're wiped out, I'm okay

562
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: with that, but I would trade. You can't trade liked.

563
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I would like to think there's a defensive player that

564
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: suits your needs better than a guard based on it,

565
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm holding out hope for Marcus Martin. I

566
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: hope i'm too, But you know, I'm fine with the

567
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: thought of Marcus Martin and a third round pick going

568
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: after that starting job and if if they do, we

569
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: can't get the job. Did I was thinking about picks

570
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: at nineteen, Yeah, I mean there's gonna be there's gonna

571
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: be probably two guards available at nineteen, and I think

572
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: you have to throw it in there. I think it's

573
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: something you have to Nandez and win. Yeah, I would.

574
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: I would really like them to do that with Hernandez,

575
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: I think because you think while they need more were

576
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, but you're getting a guy a

577
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: guy for five years without really having to pay him

578
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, really three or four, I guess right

579
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: before you have to really pay him a lot. By then?

580
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Who knows who your left tackle is going to be?

581
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Tyran Smith keeper? Who knows what happens with Lyell? I

582
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: mean I would like to thank Martin and Frederick will

583
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: still you know, be there, But I mean I would

584
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: prefer not to, but I wouldn't. I would not hate

585
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: that pick at all. And that's I mean again me

586
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: and Mickey went at it yesterday. But the fan hate

587
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: he hates that idea. I think they just like everything else.

588
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I think some people hate it and some people would

589
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: would like it's a big, big picture I don't know,

590
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: probably does Gavin whatever that's worth founding that out. I

591
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: think the thing about if you're gonna if you're gonna

592
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: draft a guard, I think it's a big picture move.

593
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: And and and hear me out on this one. Guys,

594
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Speaker 1: you really what do you what are you trying to

595
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: fire right now. No, I'm not trying to fire. What

596
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: if your quarterback isn't the answer? What if your quarterback

597
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: isn't the answer? What if you in twenty and nineteen

598
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: you have to go with a young quarterback? You have

599
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: to draft a young quarterback. Does that mean know that

600
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: you need to an offensive line? You got a runner,

601
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: but to draft that quarterback, you have to find a

602
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: way to be to protect him. I would like to

603
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: think that's one of the reasons why the guy I

604
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: think had some success two years ago. I would like

605
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: to think that the resources that are already on this

606
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: line would be enough for anybody to be successful even

607
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: if they don't draft a guard at nineteen. I mean,

608
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: they're making that line as strong as I can player.

609
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: If I had to draft another quarterback. How much did

610
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: Dak Way last year? You think? Good? Guess how much Way? Yeah?

611
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Two thirty five, two forty Yeah, that's what he said.

612
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw slim down. I saw him yesterday,

613
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: and he was talking about that being in about two

614
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: thirty and uh, he's he's going to be in a

615
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: range of like two twenty five to twenty. I love that.

616
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: So that and he's that's something he's trying to now,

617
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's it's an event. Even at two twenty five,

618
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: you can still be a great option for quarterbacks weeks,

619
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I thought that was interesting

620
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that that he's trying and he felt like that it

621
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: was important for him to shed some weight. That makes

622
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, you want him to be big

623
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Speaker 1: enough to absorb hits because I would hope that his

624
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: ability to run is going to be a part of

625
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: this offense, but more elusive faster. I mean, I don't know.

626
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea. I'm just leaning towards

627
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: defense right now in this track, So am I I mean,

628
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: I really really am. I think a guard would be

629
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: a great pick. I would prefer not to do it

630
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: at nineteen based on what they've done in free agency.

631
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I'm gonna do that right now again,

632
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: I could go for thirty minutes. Well, we haven't really

633
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: talked about the receivers. There we go that are here.

634
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's gonna he's one of them, one

635
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: of them, one of Washington is another Ridley. Ridley. Throw

636
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: in the fact that Courtland Sutton is eligible to come

637
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: to Dallas day on Friday. Sure Garrett was a part

638
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: of the workout too. Who would you take? Would you

639
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: take more over Ridley? You Yeah, you'd take I'm not

640
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: a scout. I'm not a scout. Oh, but you look

641
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: at the stuff. Yeah, you like him a lot. Yes,

642
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: you said Derwin, James is gonna go to the combine

643
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be out of the range of nineteen

644
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: because everyone's gonna love him. Yep, goes to the combine

645
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: and now he can't you can't see him out of

646
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: the top ten. Yeah, so you got an eye for this,

647
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: you like you like DJ Moore, Love DJ Moore. You

648
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: love DJ Moore. If they want him, they would have

649
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: to draft him at nineteen. So you have a problem

650
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: with that. No, I don't have a problem with James.

651
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: I think they would have a problem with it. Oh,

652
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: I think maybe more or James. James, come on, you

653
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: know James, and that's James just does so much more

654
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: for you. Both safeties, your safety. J j Moore just

655
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: got your safety so fast. Izzy. What did he run

656
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: at the combine? Four or five something? Five? Yeah? More five? Two.

657
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: I think this guy's a playmaker. I mean that's right there.

658
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: You get example that, Paul, it's going down the field.

659
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: That's our cornerback guy holding Hill, holding Hollywood Hill getting right.

660
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: There's really right there. I'm sorry, that's my bad. Yeah,

661
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: I think this is a pet cat for a pet

662
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: cats segment for Dave. It's hard to say, okay, I mean,

663
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: maybe DJ or it's hard for me to call Derwin

664
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: James a pet cat because he's gonna be a top

665
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: ten pick. Everybody loves a guy that's gonna be a

666
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: top ten pick. Yeah, but he was your pet cat

667
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: when he wasn't a top ten pick. I think no.

668
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: I saw I saw Seattle sitting at eighteen on every

669
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: mock draft. That's a classic. That's a classic case of

670
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: the media catching up to the league. Though. I mean,

671
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: but but, I mean, he's a great player. I think

672
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: you'd probably have to to get him. You'd have to

673
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: give up you'd have to give up pick fifty and

674
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: maybe even a little bit more. I think I think

675
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: you gotta go up as high as it. Well, let's

676
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: have a chance. Yeah, I mean, it is something we

677
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: talked about with the draft. Is it. Are you willing

678
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to go? You willy give fifty to go? I would

679
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: give fifty and one thirty seven. What yeah, to get

680
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: to go where to go into the top ten to

681
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: get Derwin James? What I mean, what does this team

682
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: really need right now? And I mean they need It's

683
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: not like they're like one player away from the super Bowl.

684
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, this guy's gonna start from day

685
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: one and can play three positions and be better than

686
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Ramsey defense and the defensive impact. He's not better than

687
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: rams because Ramsey was picked five. All right, Ramsey's a stud.

688
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: So you want to go second and third round and

689
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: move up and obviously second and fourth round, second and

690
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: fourth round and your first and your first pick, get

691
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: up there and do that. You'd I'd be giving up

692
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: three picks in I mean, you get one pick back,

693
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: but I would do a three picks. So you have

694
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: the option, and I'm gonna ask all three of you

695
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: guys the same. You know where I'm going on this.

696
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: You can you can give up second and third and

697
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: get Earl Thomas from from Seattle, or you trade up.

698
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: It's so tough to you trade up and you have

699
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: to lose your first round pick? What would you do? Brian?

700
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: So I have to get I know, I could take

701
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: my set, my pick nineteen. Yes, my pick at fifty,

702
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: in my pick at eighty one, and I could get

703
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: to Chicago comfortably. Okay, that's that's at eight. Okay. Would

704
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: you rather do that? Or you stay at nineteen, you

705
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: trade your second and third to Seattle and you get

706
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, you still get your safety, and you still

707
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: pick at nineteen. I think maybe I could. I would.

708
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: I would really hammer on my old guy and just

709
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: try and flip him my second. I would try and

710
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: give him fifty. Well, I would just try, because my

711
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: argument to him is like, listen, you're not going to

712
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: resign him. Yeah, you're not. You know I'm gonna try

713
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: and resign him. You're not. Okay, dude, My best offer

714
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: to you is going to be a second round pick.

715
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm forcing John Snyder. I'm not giving you my eighty one.

716
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it because you don't want

717
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: the player anymore. I will give you a second round pick,

718
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: and I promise you it'll be better than any other

719
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: deal you get. This is why Brian doesn't really like

720
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: the movie Draft Day, right yea and costause He's like,

721
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what, then just draft him? Yeah? Yeah, that

722
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: guy at Seattle like coward to Drant, I mean, not

723
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: to Snyder's the coward. That guy on draft day, I

724
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: would have told him, I'd say, all right, you draft

725
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: him in draft him. Yeah, he won't gonna draft that guy.

726
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: Unlike that movie, they actually do their homework way before

727
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: the first the draft, like they actually are. But no,

728
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: I would I would make I would make John Snyder

729
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: take my offer. All right, I'm gonna ask you. I've

730
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: already given Seattle when I was here. We get him

731
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: two ones for a broken up receiver. They owe us

732
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: one back got broken up here. I don't think that's

733
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: how that works. The football. The football gods owe us one. Okay,

734
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: all right, forget the two drag, we'll take two. And okay,

735
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Brian's not going for that. Let's just go with one.

736
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: Then second round pick, okay, forget to forget the other back.

737
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Inst the second round pick is going to be the

738
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: heavy hitter to move yourself up anyways, would you use

739
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: the second round pick to move up and get the

740
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: young safety Derwin James or would you stay at nineteen,

741
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: pick your guy and trade the second for twenty nine

742
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: year old Earl Thomas. If fifty is all I have

743
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: to give up. I would probably get Earl because it's

744
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: Earl is gonna be better than what you get a

745
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: pick fifty. Anyway, you worry about resigning and later you can.

746
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: You could franchise him if you wanted to um second

747
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: and third. Ye gotta give to second and third. I'm

748
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: leaning more towards just drafting a guy because you're gonna

749
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: get You're gonna get him for five years. That's the

750
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: same price. One one pick, a big different one pick.

751
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Just do it. But if you're trying, if you're giving up,

752
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're pretty Chicago on the phone. Your first

753
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: three picks you up. That's what I'm saying. If you're

754
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're willing to part with fifteen eighty one, go

755
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: to Chicago, get a young player, go to Chicago. I

756
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: agree to Chicago. It's the it's the five year deally

757
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: five four years and your own I mean, so all right,

758
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: if you drafted him in at eight, his contracts probably

759
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: worth like eighteen million dollars over four years, as your

760
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: eighty one is your third round one right, so he

761
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: so if you did that, you went up to eight

762
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: and got Derwin James, uh, he would be your first,

763
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: second and third round pick of that year. I mean,

764
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: that's that's what I mean. And you don't draft until Saturday, right,

765
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I could get to San Francisco at nine with my

766
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: two in my four. That's that's more what I'm trying.

767
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: So if you're if you're saying, I'm not making this

768
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: phone call until he gets to pick nine, ten, eleven.

769
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Those quarterbacks up there, with all those quarterbacks, he's gonna

770
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: be righting at and at eight nine, we need, we

771
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: need somebody to fall in love with Lamar Jackson. Just

772
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: get as many quarterbacks going early as possible and push

773
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: these guys down the board. So who are the players

774
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that you would go to eight nine range four get

775
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: we've set from the draft show. I'm Derwe James. I'm

776
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: jumping off your boat. I'm Derwin James. I'm not doing

777
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: it for Roquan Smith. You're not not because he's not

778
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: a great player. It's just it's the it's the cost

779
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: for what you get. You know, like, I need a

780
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: guy that you get one of the probably the top

781
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: three players in the draft. But then what are you

782
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: doing a linebacker like you are getting one of the

783
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: top three players in the draft. What does that say?

784
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: What does that say about Jalen Smith, What does that

785
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: shape but say about Shawn Lee, Like you're giving up

786
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: three picks to get a guy. Know that Shawn Lee

787
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: misses some games during the year two and I don't

788
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: have that safety blank anymore. He's a millionaire now in

789
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Can't you more efficiently address that need without

790
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: what if? What if you say, what if you don't

791
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: want to play with Shawn Lee anymore? What if that

792
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: money becomes well, what if the money becomes too much?

793
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: What if it does become too much and you told

794
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Dez Brian you don't want to play with him anymore. Basically,

795
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: my point is for the next year or two at least,

796
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: and and Roquan Smiths is good enough to start it

797
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: at mike linebacker right away, and you can do something

798
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: else with Jalen Smith. But like, for the next two years,

799
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: you've got two guys who can you would hope do

800
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the job. I mean, I would hate to give up

801
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: on Jalen right now, after everything they put into him

802
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: and after all of the optimists him, you're giving up

803
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: on him? Oh, you're just if you're to get better players,

804
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: if you're giving you're not. But you're not just drafting

805
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: them in the first round, and you're giving up all

806
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: the important picks in your draft to get somebody that

807
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: plays the same position. I agree with Dave from the

808
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: standpoint about the drop off. I think that you've got

809
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: two great linebackers in this draft, and then you've got

810
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: Evans and Vanderesh that are kind of there. Don't tell

811
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: me you want er would much. Oh my gosh, again,

812
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: what did I say? What did I say? I did?

813
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Because they are What did I say to it was there?

814
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting in that room. I want Brian's mind draft.

815
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: I used to sit in that room. It's not a

816
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: bad draft we took where. It's not about how that

817
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: worked out pretty good, pretty well. It's not about the

818
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: name Vanderesh, Rashaun Evans, Josie Jewel in the second round.

819
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Just give me a guy I only

820
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: have to spend one pick on who can come in.

821
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: He could start if he needs to get it. Spell

822
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Yeah, but you have so many necessities, and

823
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: this is how I see this draft. That's a bad team. Now.

824
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: I know, oh you're saying no, I'm just asking you listen.

825
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I know you draft players young players for the future.

826
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: You hope to have her develop them and let them

827
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: grow and all that, But at this time, to me,

828
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: right now, I'm wanting to draft players that can do

829
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: immediate give you immediate results. I'm trying to get you

830
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: the best linebacker in the draft. Here's the thing, big guy,

831
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: you don't have a known commodity at safety right now.

832
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: One of your two safety spots is just a I'm

833
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods could be an All Pro for all I know,

834
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: but it's a question mark in terms of what we know.

835
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: You have known commodities at linebacker. So why am I

836
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: giving up my premium picks to get a guy who's

837
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: and like I said, he could even start over Jalen Smith.

838
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: But you're still just supplementing a position that you already have.

839
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: I'd rather spend a third round just gets banged up.

840
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't often play, so draft a third Anthony Hitchens

841
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: wasn't to argue why pick one? This whole thing with

842
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: trade for trading up to get Smith and was a

843
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: fourth round scared and Anthony Hitchins started from day one

844
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: as a fourth round pick and did a pretty good job.

845
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: Can't I find that guy at fifty? This team sometimes

846
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: has that problem. All right, we can't I find that

847
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: guy for Wyoming. You're just like you, just you love

848
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith. That's all it boils outside play. I love

849
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: him too. But you're not thinking what a defensive guys

850
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: that make plays, David, You're not You're not thinking rationally here,

851
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Speaker 1: all right, all right, it's about efficiency. If you like this,

852
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Speaker 1: this is what the draft show is all the first

853
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Speaker 1: four minutes. It's pretty fair, so all right, and that's

854
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Speaker 1: what we'll see that as well. All right, let's take

855
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Speaker 1: break here. We're gonna go twenty more minutes of this

856
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Speaker 1: I hear all this talk about what it takes to

878
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Speaker 1: be a cowboy. Everyone's got their ideas, but I just

879
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,600
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00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys fan? It means you've got the passion of

890
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: the heart to do your part supporting the Boys no

891
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: matter what. That's why when the game's on the line,

892
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: you're on your feet, whether you're at home or in

893
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: the stands. Actually, you're more than a fan. You are

894
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: a member of Cowboys Nation, and so is AT and

895
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: T doing their part to keep you connected to America's

896
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: team all season long. AT and T is a proud

897
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: member of Cowboys Nation. Back to the break, not cat

898
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: all right, we're back here for the final segment. Here

899
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: on the break, Dave Hellman and Bergarcia Brian brought us

900
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: filling in here. I don't know, we get we don't

901
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: know where there are we filling in? Or has Derek

902
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: just left the show like he's never on it. It's possible,

903
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: it's possible that's happened. Maybe it's just not that mun thing. Yeah,

904
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna talk about just the positions this

905
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: team has. I guess they do try to cover their bases.

906
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: They did, they didn't make one move here today they've

907
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: signed kicker punter Brett Mayer. Uh, this is normal. This

908
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: is what happens this type of year. Expressly that guy

909
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: that can do both like that, you don't want to

910
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: overwork Bailey U and here that he's been here before. Yeah, okay,

911
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't thirteen. I don't remember that, which I pride

912
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: myself on my ability to remember dumb stuff. But right,

913
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't that guy from Alabama? No, I remember, like Mandel, No,

914
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: we didn't get along. Right, did you ever sleep from

915
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe practice? Name by? They had the guy from Memphis

916
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, they had the Obama kid.

917
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: This guy's been in the CFL for a while. Okay,

918
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: so it's but really, you draft or you signed these

919
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: players who can kick, kick off and you can eat

920
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: big punt and all that. So these guys don't have

921
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: to do things for four or five preseason games. Yeah,

922
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Jones just yeah, please, not gonna be.

923
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be five preseason games, is it. We

924
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: would know this. Chris Jones just signed an extension. So

925
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: and by the way on that, because I'm sure everybody

926
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: gets asked this question all the time. Was the schedule

927
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: coming out? That'll probably be it is, which I did, Like,

928
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm just this is purely a guess. But I think

929
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: the week of April sixteenth to twentieth, Like did you

930
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: do the math when it had it's always a week

931
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: or two before the draft. Um, I think there's something

932
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: else going on next week that many weeks, it's usually

933
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: two weeks after the owners meetings. It's something things that

934
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: they kind of talk about and how I'm keeping an

935
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: eye on, like April seventeen, so tuesday, yeah, yeah, yeah,

936
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: which no, we don't know the date, but like it's

937
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in the next like ten days, I think,

938
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: because they never do a draft weeks. I've got Dallas

939
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: going at Philly on the first game of the year.

940
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: What you I heard a rumor that maybe Atlanta's going

941
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: up to Philly for the opener, which Minnesota maybe two

942
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: or yeah. I don't want another New Year's in Philly. No,

943
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: that would that would be nice. I done with that,

944
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I know. I mean they gotta start on the road

945
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: this year, right, They've been at home every year. If

946
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: you go Commissioner Roger, I'm tired of this, Dallas. This

947
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: will be my sixth season covering the Cowboys, and they've

948
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: been at home to open every season. Just I mean,

949
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: how much longer can that street go on? And how

950
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: many times against the Giants? Five of the four of

951
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: the five four of my five season openers have against

952
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: the Giants, Which I'm tired of that too. It's not Hey,

953
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I get it, NBC. It's ratings, but like the Cowboys

954
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: do ratings no matter who they play. So calm down,

955
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: all right, The Cowboys have a game here, let's say

956
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: next week they have to play. Whatever the reason is,

957
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: why new rule, they're playing a game, what positions are

958
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: they going to have the hardest time feeling? I think

959
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: that kind of helps you a little bit when you're

960
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: going into the draft. When I look at this and

961
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: I've put three positions down that would be hard to

962
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: somewhat play a game. They're all defense. I mean linebacker.

963
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: Linebacker is the one where like, who starts right now, Brian,

964
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: You've got to play a game. Who's starting for your linebacker?

965
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson? Yeah, well Damian Wilson would start to Sam

966
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: and then you think about with Jalen and Sean Lee

967
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: would be you know, would be your linebackers. You'd probably

968
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: you depend on who you're playing if you're playing the Eagles,

969
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: like it would probably open a nickel take somebody off

970
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: the field. But yeah, I think the linebacker. I think

971
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: that the three linebackers would be those guys and help

972
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: none of those two get hurt for your next game. Yeah,

973
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: well we're gonna play here. As I point, I'm pointing

974
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: to the field. Yeah, uh, dave another position on there

975
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: would be safety, you know, because Byron Jones is expected

976
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: to move they and again I mean to I don't

977
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: say this as a knock on Cavon Frasier or Xavier Woods.

978
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: They have three. I mean, unless you count Amil Showers,

979
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: they have three safeties, which typically you probably want four.

980
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: And we the Cowboys have even carried five before. I mean,

981
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: like the numbers just aren't there. And like I said,

982
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath is the only one that has played significant snaps.

983
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Cavan and Woods have both come in at times,

984
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: but it's really more been as a rotational guy. I

985
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: don't think I would doubt either one of them has

986
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: ever played more than thirty or forty percent of the

987
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: snaps in a game. So you just look at that

988
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: as a position where there's an allow of experience. And

989
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: you've said where that you like safety, that that's a

990
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: position that that you want them to get. Does it

991
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: matter to you where you want it? Free agent, get

992
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: the guy that's played, or just take a chance on

993
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: a higher pick, or give me someone that's ready to play,

994
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: that's ready to go. Because okay, we had Jeff Heath

995
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: and then Byron Jones has their starters right, and we

996
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: still didn't get anything. Wow, like, oh my god, they're great.

997
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: So now you move back in the depth you moved

998
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: down with the guys you have. Now, obviously that's not

999
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna be any better, or at least that's what you expect.

1000
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: You don't expect any better. Hopefully we're wrong and they

1001
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: can show up this year and do something unexpected, but

1002
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: right now, it's not something I feel good about going

1003
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: into a game. Well, she makes a really good point

1004
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: because how much do you really trust that we were

1005
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: cheerleading for Xavier Woods last year in the sixth round

1006
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's he's on the roster.

1007
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: But she makes a really good point because how do

1008
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, you're moving Byron Jones. He's made, he's

1009
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: played forty eight games for you, and there's a question

1010
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: whether he'll even really start at corner. Yeah, you know,

1011
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: and then you know that's kind of a risk. I mean,

1012
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, I'm taking a starter who played forty

1013
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: eight games for me and now moving him to corner

1014
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: and he might not even start there. That really bothers you.

1015
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: It does bother me, I know, because she's right though,

1016
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: what is what are you going to do? Do you

1017
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: trust Frasier completely? Do you trust Xavier Woods completely? Jeff

1018
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Heath has some consistency to him, made a hell of

1019
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: a play in that Oakland game to save it. That's

1020
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 1: what you you know, you need more that that type

1021
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: of play. You know what It makes me think? And

1022
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, I loved this line so much. Brad Sham

1023
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: said it to you two weeks ago. Hope is not

1024
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: a strategy. It's not and it's kind of what it

1025
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: feels like with safety as it stands right now. I mean,

1026
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll draft a guy or I would guess.

1027
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: It just seems like they're hoping that cavan or Woods

1028
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: steps up and becomes the dude, which that's not a

1029
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: great strategy. Let's be clear on this. We run with

1030
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: some of these things a lot, and now all of

1031
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: a sudden buyer Jones is just all of a sudden

1032
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: a corner, and just like lyall Collins is all of

1033
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: a sudden a guard. I think that those are options,

1034
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: contingency plans that the Cowboys haven't come out and necessarily

1035
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: said that. I think there's way more smoke about Byron

1036
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: than there is about life. I think they've I think

1037
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: they've told Byron show. I think I think the Byron

1038
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: thing is a little more concrete than the Lyles, and

1039
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: it's based on conversations that I've had. But if they

1040
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: don't get a safety that, sure, that's a good point,

1041
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: that's their point. But also too, there's a couple of

1042
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: positions where we've seen new coaches, right. We wonder if

1043
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: Chris Rochard has been the influence on oh no, move

1044
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: him here, move him here, move him here, Sanjay Lyle,

1045
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: let's have twenty six wide receivers. We'll figure it out.

1046
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because you know, Stephen Jones

1047
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: talked on the radio yesterday. Sure, and they they're like, hey,

1048
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: well you signed Alan Hearns and Deontay Thompson and you're

1049
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: still looking at receivers draft, Like what gives? And Stephen

1050
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: was like, we just wanted to be as competitive as possible. Well,

1051
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they figured that out yet. Why No,

1052
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they have. I think they figured out

1053
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Byron Jones though. But well, I do think that. I

1054
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: think you're right. But that's you know, They're like, we

1055
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: want as much competition as possible. I don't you want

1056
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: any competition in the safety spot, Like they haven't signed

1057
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: anybody there that they must they must feel really really

1058
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: good about a savior. Would That is the only conclusion

1059
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: that I can come to, which I hope, like hell

1060
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: that they're right. But again, my conclusion is they don't

1061
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: want to come out and say the best thing, so

1062
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: they're just using it. Oh, we just wanted two odd

1063
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: guys give throwing competition. You know, I let them compete.

1064
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: It's just you. I wasn't gonna say it as explicitly

1065
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: as you did, but I think she's been known to

1066
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: just say it, you know. I think I think they're uh.

1067
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: I think their draft could have a lot to do

1068
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: with what winds up happening there. I don't think that

1069
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: they're done at safety. I really don't. I think I

1070
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: think they will sign a veteran safety maybe I really do.

1071
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, or trade for one, or they will

1072
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: acquire a veteran Wait wait wait he just okay the

1073
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: quire here Nick is dr Nick? Are trade for one? Well? Yeah,

1074
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: because I give me give me Nick, this is fun.

1075
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: This is what we do. Give me the percentage that

1076
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: that that kid it's that got Seattle ends up here.

1077
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: Give me the percentage on that. To me, I would

1078
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: I would hear we are talking about a guy it's

1079
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: under cont Yeah right, yeah, sorry about that. As if

1080
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: we get in trouble um, I'd say I'd say fifty

1081
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: percent maybe sixty wow, fifteen, I think fifty fifteen percent

1082
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: chance that is? That is so well. Nick is going

1083
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: to drive that train until it either comes into the

1084
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: station or goes into a ditch, like those are the

1085
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: only He's just He's like, you've never driven anything. Everybody

1086
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: everybody was on that train in January and February and

1087
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: people started getting off, and Nick's just like, Nope, we're

1088
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: going this thing's either coming home or I'm gonna ride

1089
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: it all the way off there as the train stopped.

1090
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Has anything happened if anybody jumped onto the train, The

1091
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: train has not stopped. It's just like I said, it

1092
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: just lost a lot of passengers. But not you. Right,

1093
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: you've been on way? Would you? Would you? So? You

1094
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: said so that means you would be shot. I would

1095
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: be fifty be pretty damn surprised. Hey, the train is

1096
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: going very slow right now. But you get to April

1097
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: twenty five. Absolutely, Oh yeah, John Snyder is thinking about it.

1098
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign this guy. I'm not commend

1099
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: to you. No, I'm not. I don't mean it as

1100
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: an insult. I commend you for your unwavering faith because

1101
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: everybody else is just like, okay, No, well you had

1102
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: no faith in my linebacker. You were on that train

1103
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: and you jumped off quickly. Yeah. I liked to I'm

1104
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: like a hobo. I drive, you are trained to train. Yeah,

1105
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: I dressed like one. I act like it's okay, I

1106
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: have I'm a man of little convictions. I just kind

1107
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: of hoped from train to train. I'm okay. If you

1108
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: know what, fifty percent I think is a little strong

1109
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: for me. No, seriously, fifty percent I think it's a

1110
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: little strong, but I'm not. I'm not. I wouldn't be

1111
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: surprised if they pulled off that move. I would be surprised. Okay,

1112
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean ask you this percentage, Uh, Kenny Vaccaro. I

1113
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: don't understand why he's not on a team right now,

1114
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: and that really can't cover all that great whatever, that's

1115
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: what they want. They want Superman back therapy. Well, okay,

1116
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: you guys, the teams exactly usually get signed. How many

1117
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: safeties the watch that's what they want. There's there's there's

1118
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: four on each team, and there's thirty two teams. So

1119
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: what's the matter. There's how if you gave me a

1120
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: choice between him and Eric Reid, I take Eric Creed.

1121
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I've watched whatever sign something. There's only like six safeties

1122
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: that fit the myth not signing Eric. No, they're not,

1123
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: well sure they're not. There's only like good football. It's

1124
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: only like there's only like five safeties in the NFL

1125
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: that fit the mythical mold of what they want, like

1126
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: the center field or like Ed Reid's not there and

1127
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: if he was, and if he was, he'd be expensive

1128
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: as hell. That's Earl Thomas is expensive as hell to acquire.

1129
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: Just at this point, it's it's what it's April fourth.

1130
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: You really can't just go sign this guy for a

1131
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: cheap contract and hope for the best likens. Yeah, like,

1132
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: what's the deal. They're willing to do it for an

1133
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: end but not a safety. They know a lot more

1134
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: than we do. I mean, there's the deal. They know

1135
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: more than we do. That's where it is. And just

1136
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: well that's why we're all here doing radio. Take a shot,

1137
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: shoot your shot, you know, sho. All right, So we

1138
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: talked about those two positions if they had to play

1139
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: right now, defensive end or the defensive line. What's it

1140
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: looking like for you defensive line? Take a shot at it?

1141
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Who you're got him? Ends? I don't. I don't love

1142
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: my depth at de tackle. But other than that, you

1143
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: can play a game just fine. You could play a game.

1144
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: Four of us can be the defensive line, but probably

1145
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: not like who probably would flip it you tackle? Probably

1146
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: the one? Yeah, I mean, what would you got Lawrence

1147
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: and Tyrone Taco as your third and then probably tap

1148
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: her for right now, and then Irving and Malik would

1149
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: be your tasive tackles. I guess you'd have Brian Price

1150
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: behind them. Sure, who am I forgetting Richard? Richard ashe

1151
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: see this just tells me that all this thing with

1152
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: defensive end and defensive tackle, right, there's concern, right, but

1153
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: there's concern. But I think I think you have to

1154
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: play it. I think you have to play that game

1155
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen that you also have to play in

1156
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You have to look at it and go

1157
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: all right, oh yeah, is Crawford gonna be on this

1158
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: this team? You know? You know that's where like Duran Payne. Okay,

1159
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: this year it would be or Vita Vea, It's gonna

1160
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: be a lot of a few people in here. But

1161
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: next year, is Crawford gonna be here? Is Lauren's going

1162
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: to be here? Is Irving gonna be here? Like that

1163
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: is going to be again? This is how I see it.

1164
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we know, yes, you have to think

1165
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: about the future and these guys are contracts will be

1166
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: expiring or whatever. But at the same time, this is

1167
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: a big year for a lot of people, a lot

1168
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: of coaches that their jobs are on the line. So

1169
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, are you really focusing on Okay, let's

1170
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: protect this theme for the future. Are you really focusing

1171
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: on going all in for this year you have in

1172
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: this year? If I'm a coach, a coach, that's that's attitude, right.

1173
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: I am not looking for the life boat on the Titanic.

1174
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: I am like I am, I'm gonna end up in

1175
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: the icy water and under it. That's what you have.

1176
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to keep me. You gotta, which

1177
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: is why it's a great point. And so you're saying

1178
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: the ship is sinking. It's a ship is hit. You've

1179
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: got to find a way to go patch the hole.

1180
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: But I don't have time to be like getting guys

1181
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: that halfway. You guys are like, oh, Taco and November

1182
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: was fine. Oh, I don't have time to save STF.

1183
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: I need Taco to be good in July twenty fourth.

1184
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: I need whoever that is to step in and be

1185
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: good July twenty four. That's Harold L. Ryan at nineteen.

1186
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Get get some value for the pick. Yeah. Agree, you

1187
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: guys want to trade up. No, but you're you're right

1188
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: about that. Cowards. That's gonna happen though, that sure that

1189
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: what she said well happen. She's absolutely right. Coaches are

1190
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna be like I'm looking at my office sitting there,

1191
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I might not be here, nixt je bet

1192
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: get some guys that can damn we'll play right now.

1193
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think you'll be seeing the Jalen

1194
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Smith Bruce Carter type pick. That's like, all right, guy

1195
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: walks in with crutches and this is good, good to make. Like,

1196
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be fifty. Yeah, we're gonna take

1197
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: a guy on crutches, so they're wheeling him in. You know,

1198
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh he'll be ready and you know, but again you

1199
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: never know, never know, never know. Then again, the guy,

1200
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: the guy's picking the guys that really had the final say,

1201
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: they're here. Yeah, I'm gonna say that worried about. But

1202
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: if I'm a coach, I'm not feeling too comfortable in

1203
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: my in my blue long sleeve. But you've seen coaches

1204
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: get shut down in that room, right, Oh yeah, I

1205
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: don't want to get him. Well, we just picked him.

1206
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: If I'm the guy, he's yeah, we've seen Marinelli do

1207
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: a little dance, you know, and all that stuff like that. No, No,

1208
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: let's just go, I mean, hey, let's go go just

1209
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: get the players, all right. That being said, quarterback, we

1210
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about that in the break. I

1211
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: mean when our mock draft, everybody picked a quarterback at

1212
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: some point. Sure, you think out of ten picks that

1213
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: they have scheduled right now, Dave, ten picks, do you

1214
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: think that somebody that throws the ball will be one

1215
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: of them? Yes? I do, And I said this on

1216
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: the show yesterday, like, sometimes we have to read between

1217
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: the lines and do the best we can, and then

1218
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: sometimes Jerry just says it for us, which he did

1219
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: in February. He was like, we want a third quarterback

1220
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: on this team. We want to develop a guy. We

1221
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: don't want a veteran. Well, what is it? Okay? I

1222
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: mean I guess you could get a priority free agent.

1223
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: But the odds on that is that they'll probably draft

1224
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: a guy. And they've got comp picks. They got what

1225
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: two in the six, three and the seventh or something

1226
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: like that. Yeahps, I think day three, I think they

1227
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: will draft. Yeah, they get, they got some they get

1228
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: they will give somebody a lucrative offer to come here

1229
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: in free agency, like they will get the best available

1230
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 1: undrafted quarterback, or they'll draft one sixteen and one thirty

1231
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: seven could be a quarterback. Let's get some names. Can

1232
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: we we throw eyes out there? Your boy Mike White,

1233
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: that sounds like he'll go k yeah thirty one. Yeah,

1234
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: well you I am championing the guy a lot higher

1235
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: on New England's not picking this year. They'll get two picks. Yeah.

1236
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: They they're going to trade him to the Giants for Odell.

1237
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh maybe, so he's something to watch. Some of those names,

1238
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: like you think about Letta would be a guy. How

1239
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: about your guy Oklahoma State, Rudolph Mason, Rudolson, Rudolph fo Litton,

1240
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Silver's Lytton, Yeah, Litton from Marshall Fox, from Washington State,

1241
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: Who's Silver's Who's like he's from Troy. Guy took our

1242
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: mighty program. Yeah, you get a guy about one sixteen,

1243
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be he'll just be competing with Cooper Rush.

1244
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: That feels if that feels a little high to me,

1245
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: that feels a little high. Why because you that's higher

1246
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: than you drafted Dak. Well, that's go get a guy

1247
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: who can go, Go get a guy who can play.

1248
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: You might need to figure out what that quarterback you

1249
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 1: got this if which he's not going to Dak's gonna

1250
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: be just fine. But if that's the case. Worry about

1251
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: that next year when draft a guy much higher. Next year.

1252
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: We just talked about a bunch of coaches aren't well

1253
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: about right if Dak Presscott takes a step back, another

1254
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: step back and doesn't have a good year, and now

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Speaker 1: we're figuring out that he's not the answer the wild

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Speaker 1: new coaches, Sure it will be Oh no, you'reright, No,

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, right, right, abotually right. Worry about that.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing as tight end. Worry about that

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Speaker 1: next year because I think Dak's gonna be shop shop

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Speaker 1: shop shop. Pay the bill later on one seventy one.

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Speaker 1: How about one seventy one for a quarterback? Fifth round? Yeah, fifth,

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Speaker 1: sixth round, way more palatable, right, all right? That anyway?

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Speaker 1: Prizes here, Um, no one's shop there. All right, We

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Speaker 1: got just a few more seconds here, and this is

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Speaker 1: there'll be the last time that we're here for this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in our regular So remember, let's go

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Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, buy the draft guide. I put a

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Speaker 1: lot of work in this. Dallas Cowboys dot Com slash star.

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Speaker 1: You got who we pointed to, Courtland Sutton, Christian Kirk,

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Speaker 1: James Washington, all right, do it for Brian amber Dave,

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Speaker 1: I'm Nick Eatman. Thanks to everybody for getting this done.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. On to right. This has

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